Bigfoot Society - Brian King-Sharp from Sasquatch Odyssey, Squatch Con, Standing and Incredible Encounters

Episode Date: August 4, 2023

Brian King-Sharp is the man behind the amazing Sasquatch Odyssey podcast. He joins me to talk about the upcoming Squatch Con in Idaho, his upcoming expedition with Todd Standing and so much more. Do not miss this episode!ResourcesBrian’s episode of In My Own World - https://www.vicetv.com/en_us/video/bigfoot-hunters/61d770455e0c4928d542d0b7Brian’s podcast “Sasquatch Odyssey” - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey/id1552990311Sasquatch Odyssey on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@sasquatchodysseypodcastSasquatch Odyssey on Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@sasquatchodysseypodcastSquatch Con Idaho - https://squatchconidaho.comGet your virtual ticket here: https://hangar1publishing.comFreeman Footage - https://youtu.be/3ZGH8J3RssIThe Freeman Bigfoot Files book - affiliate link - https://amzn.to/47j5s7SAnomacon - http://www.anomacon.comBrian’s Radium Expedition GoFundMe - https://www.gofundme.com/f/2023-bigfoot-expeditionsThe Audio Recorder Brian is getting - https://amzn.to/47b4meF (affiliate link)Brian’s interview with Les Stroud - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey/id1552990311?i=1000537214130Brian’s Wood Knock Bigfoot Encounter Interview - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey/id1552990311?i=1000610044864Brian’s Top 3 Bigfoot BooksSasquatch: Legend Meets Science - https://amzn.to/47b5BdP (affiliate link)The Quantum Bigfoot - https://amzn.to/45d4acR (affiliate link)The Phenomenal Sasquatch - https://amzn.to/45ecB7G (affiliate link)WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzESend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!”If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! ——Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases.This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR ——My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card.https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsocie

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Visit your nearby Lowe's on West Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles. I finished up the show. I had a good interview. I was writing down some show notes and things before I went to bed. And we hear probably 40 yards, maybe 50 yards in the woods from the house. Like Ohio howl type howl. And it sort of ends with like a bark on the end. And it was super loud to the point where I felt it.

And it was enough to scare the shit out of it. I was like, goodness too. Like, what, it was literally, what was that? I don't know. What was that? Do you hear that? Yes, I heard that. I'm not going out.

I'm not going out. And that's what people ask me that. Did you go out and check? No, I did not. I did not want to see what it was. I didn't want to get any closer to, than we already were. On this episode of Bigfoot Society, I'll be talking to Brian King Sharp from Sasquatch Odyssey.

We'll be discussing some interesting Bigfoot encounters, SquatchCon, coming up in Idaho. and Brian headed up to go on an expedition with Mr. Todd standing. This is one episode you won't want to miss. Before we get into the episode, please take a minute to like where you're listening to the episode and subscribe and share this episode with a friend.

That is the easiest and it is free and it just helps a lot. And we're going to the moon pretty quick. So you want to get on board. All right, let's get into the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Brian King Sharp tonight from Sasquatch Odyssey. How's it going, Brian?

I'm good, Jeremiah. How are you, man? Dude, I'm doing good. I'm excited to finally get to chat with you on my show. How are things going on over there? You're on the East Coast, right? I am. I'm in North Carolina.

It's been really stormy today. I was glad that the storms moved out because I've had to. to cancel a couple of interviews over the last, I don't know, a couple of months when we had these really bad storms come through. But luckily, the skies parted. They knew I was going to talk to you tonight. So it's like you can't be raining during Bigfoot Society. So, Brian, I've never heard your how you got into Bigfooting. Share with me, like, what was it that got you into the Bigfoot gang? It's so weird because I feel like I've always kind of been in it because I grew up in the North Georgia Mountains as a kid. And I just, it was part of the time.

of the culture there. You know, it wasn't something that you just sat around and talked about at the dinner table, but we lived in a very rural, poor area. I grew up very poor. So, you know, there was a lot of ginseng hunters and people out doing whatever they could to survive. And I remember distinctly hearing some of the ginseng hunters' stories that came down off of Lookout Mountain in the North Georgia area and northern Alabama, right on the border there were Georgia. And I remember one story in particular that stuck out to me for years was a couple of ginseng hunters, they ran down the mountain, basically rolled down this mountain. They came down, beat up, bruised, addered, and they kept saying that something chased them off the mountain, and I think they called it a

wild man or hairy man or something. And of course, I was, you know, maybe 10 when I heard the story for the first time. I had no idea what it was. But now, in retrospect, I figure out that it was probably Bigfoot that they were talking about, that they had an engagement. encounter with on the mountain. And I do some stories. I call it story time on my show. I read some encounter stories and we've even got a whole series going now that on Dogman, right? So I was searching for stories and a lady over in the UK actually put together a huge database. I don't know if you're familiar with Deborah Hatzwell, but she does the- Yes. She gives out to me. Yep. Yeah, Deborah is awesome. So I've had her on the show a couple of times, but she has amassed this

database and she has a, it's an interactive map basically of every cryptic encounter you could possibly imagine. And she shared it with me and she's like, pick it, whatever story you want, read it off there, you know. And I was looking in Georgia one day. And lo and behold, I started searching in on this map in that area of Georgia. And I found a story from like, I guess it was the late 70s, maybe, early 80s of these ginseng hunters that told their stories about.

very short encounter, but it was the one that I grew up hearing through word of mouth as a kid. So it was really cool to have that come full circle as a podcaster now that deals in Bigfoot encounters, really, and to hear one and see it validated in writing on a database that it actually got reported to somebody and somebody took the time to actually document their encounter. So, but, you know, that ending, you know, experiences as a child that I sort of a tribute to what could possibly be Bigfoot when I was like 12 years old. So, you know, I feel like I've always had it. Well, I know I've always had an interest in it, but I really didn't get into it until I got out of law enforcement and I could actually sort of pursue that kind of line of

inquiry, if you will, because as a cop, you don't talk about that stuff, right? I've said that plenty of times on the show. And, you know, you talk to plenty of police officers. You just don't talk about that at work, you know? So once I left that in 2016, I was really, able to sort of pursue that interest and that culminated in starting the show in like February of 2021. That is, that is just fascinating. What a fascinating area to grow up. And was that the same area where like the Expedition Bigfoot Museum is, like that area of North Georgia?

It's similar to that. I would probably say as the crow flies, I was probably, I grew up in like the Somerville and Lome area. That's in Blue Ridge. So it's probably. a couple of hours drive, maybe an hour and a half drive from that area. But same general,

if you looked at a topo map and just erase the names of the area, it would look almost identical to the area where that Bigfoot Museum is. And I've been there a couple times. It's a great place. Oh, it's on my list of Bigfoot Museum

is a go to. It's a really cool place, man. I've been there a couple of times and we did a vice show a couple of years ago. I think towards the end of 2021, they followed us around for about 10 days and filmed, and they were sort of highlighting the show and me and what I was doing. And part of the thing we did was travel from North Carolina here on our property to the Bigfoot Museum. We filmed there for a couple of days, and they were super nice people. They allowed me full carte blanche

access. I got to interview people on the spot. Yeah, it was a really cool experience, really great people. Did that actually, did that air on Spike or on Vice? It did. Okay. What was your name of that? It was the name of the series was in my own world. And I think I was episode seven. It was called Bigfoot hunters of all things. I said, man, I got to check that out. That sounds great, man. I love that sort of stuff. Brian, I would, I would hope that most of my listeners already know what Sasquatch Odyssey is. Because if you like Bigfoot Society, you're really, really going to like Sasquatch Odyssey and vice versa. But for the people that haven't heard of Sasquash Odyssey yet, do you mind Sharon? What's your elevator pitch for what

Sasquatch Odyssey is, how it came about, all that good stuff? How it came about is a little longer than an elevator pitch. But the elevator pitch for the show really is, it's very similar to the Bigfoot Society in that I wanted to create a space where people could come on and share their encounter experiences and not feel crazy. that's it in a nutshell, right? Because when I really got into the subject, that's the one thing I really wanted to do was talk to people who had had experiences and had encounters. And it started and it was born out of me doing it in the southeastern United States because I talked to people and I've talked to people since. I've interviewed Peter Byrne on the show.

We got into a little argument because he didn't think Bigfoot has ever existed east of the Rockies. And I'm like, well, I've talked to tons of people that would disagree with you, Peter. But that's neither here nor there. But I really wanted to document as many cases as I could in Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, all the places that I've been and grown up in just the southeastern United States in general. So that's kind of what the show was for me as I wanted to document those cases. So that's how it started. The very first episode of the show ever was a roadside crossing encounter with a guy named Kale here in North Carolina. And very much, like, I think you've been a lot better in this business than I started because I've listened to some of your older shows and they're much better quality than mine when I started.

Well, you didn't listen far enough back. But thanks, Brian. I was literally, I was literally recording the show on my cell phone on this free app called Rev. I was too on Anchor, dude. That's, okay. So we get it. We are brothers, man. We are brothers.

Go ahead. So, yeah, that was the thing. I recorded his interview and I was fascinated with some of the things that he told. You know, he was a couple of hours. He's about three hours from me here in North Carolina. And just that in and of itself, the roadside crossing thing has sort of become this thing for me on the show because you hear that all the time. These are such elusive creatures. They're, you know, people go out and look for them for 50 years and they never have an encounter. They never see a footprint. But yet somebody's driving to work in a Prius and they almost smack one of them crossing the road at least two times a month, you know. So that was sort of the beginning of, well, I'd say the beginning of the end for me. I just went down the rabbit hole because I was hooked at that point. And when I talked to him, I was like, I've got to do something with the story. I can't be the only one who hears this story. So I was like, I'm going to start a podcast, you know.

I don't know if anybody will listen, but I'm going to start a podcast and put these out there and let people hear these stories from North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia. So that's what I did. And one episode turned into five, turned into 10. And, you know, luckily through the universe was looking out for me, you know, West Gramer from Sasquatch Chronicles, you know, about three months into the show, he reached out and said, hey man, I like your show, I'll listen to your show, but your audio sucks. He's like, it's awesome, though. Let me help you with your audio. And I'm like, holy crap. You know, what am I going to say no? Of course not. So he called me up and we spent a couple hours on the phone talking and he gave me some ideas. And I'm writing a list down of things that I should order and boards that I should get to record the show and microphones and all this stuff. And, you know, a couple of weeks later, I had everything in. And I remember I set the board up and I was a lost ball on high weeds, dude. I had no idea what I was doing. So I sent him a text and I was like, I need some help. So we hopped on FaceTime and he spent like 45 minutes helping me

dial my board in and it literally changed the show overnight. The audio quality and it still had some issues. We still, you know, every day you improve, you figure out a new way to do something and you work constantly honing your craft, but literally overnight it changed the show. And I've had to go back and remaster some of those earlier episodes because they were such good quality content that was just crap audio. So now I have the software and I have the ability to go back and remaster those shows and sort of give them new life and re-release them. And people have, you know, I've gotten a couple of Apple reviews lately that's just like, oh, crap, I'm so glad you did that because I got to hear the story in a whole new way.

So like the episode, I did episode nine, I had Jeff Meldrum on the show. And it was horrible. I mean, the audio, I overcompressed it when I was editing and it, it was just, it was horrible. I just remastered that a couple of weeks, maybe a month or so back. And it's, it's now listenable. So you guys can go back and listen to Dr. Jeff Mildrum. He was one of the first episodes I did on the show. And I'm still working my way through that.

So. So one, that's amazing how Wes stepped out and said, hey, I'm going to help this dude. What I love is when people in the community, even though they're doing the same thing, they're helping each other out. For example, you know, I'm going to shout you out real quick. And we won't get into super specifics, but, you know, when I, after, you know, after, I was on your show last time, we had a very intense 30 minute conversation or so that that was so encouraging to me and put me on the right track to one day doing this full time and giving me the hope to do it. So I just want to say thank you, Brian, for taking the

time to, I mean, really change the course of what I'm doing here. So that was just really, really a life-changing chat we had for sure. I believe in karma, man. Yeah. I've always said that no matter what, and I help a ton of people behind the scenes with the shows because I love doing that. But if you get to the point where you have the ability to help other people like West, West didn't have to do that for me.

He could have said, that's just another podcast or whatever. And for whatever reason he chose to do that, it changed my mind. world. It really did. And I've been forever grateful for that. And if I ever have the opportunity, and I said it to him, I believe, if I ever have the opportunity to pay anybody back or to pay this forward, I'm going to do it tenfold if I can because, you know, some people think things are competition. I see it the complete opposite. Everybody who succeeds at doing what I do just makes my life better. And it makes the world better for everybody because there's more places for people to go for information. And that's what it's really all about for me, is getting the encounters out

They're getting the information in people's hands and letting them make up their own mind. 100%. I agree with that, my dude. So you are involved with something cool that's about to happen relatively soon. But I would love you to share about what's going on out in Idaho. The cool thing that you guys are putting out there, the convention that's coming up soon. Yeah, that's sort of just fell in. in my lap. I had Brandon

Hoff Hines from Squattsnut reached out to me months and months ago and we were going back and forth about some other things and he had had some encounters so I invited him on the show. He came on the show, shared his encounters, great dude, just super high energy, I just immediately

was drawn to his stories and we started talking and he was really looking forward to putting together a Bigfoot conference in Idaho. And he reached out to me, we kicked around some ideas and he just started running with it. And the next thing I know, he calls me up and he says,

hey, I've got Dr. Jeff Meldrum. He's committed to coming out. Cliff Bergman's coming out. I'd love to have you on the panel. Would you come out and speak at the conference? And I'm like, sure, man, absolutely. Let's make it happen. And I had been trying, for those that do listen to my show,

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Do they block hearing to heightened taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. And he's kind of a controversial figure in Bigfoot. As I dug into his history and dug into things, I sort of figured this out because if you talk about footage and possible proof of the species, the Patterson Gimlin film is usually number one in everybody's mind.

And normally it's the Freeman. footage right there at number two, right? So it's a pretty big deal. But in a nutshell, this guy's basically out doing his thing and he films what looks like a big foot crossing over this path. And everybody famously, the famous line that most people recognize, oh, where he goes? Yeah. Right. So it's very grainy. I mean, it was on eight millimeter video in 1992. So if you've been around long enough to put your mind back in 1992 and think about what grainy video looks like back then, that's what you're going to get with the Freeman footage.

So almost immediately after this footage came out, Doug Hijek started looking at it. He started digging into it, and he was working his tail off to try to enhance this footage because in part of the footage, and Doug just talked about this on Saturday on my show, if you listen to the footage carefully, you hear Paul say it one time, oh, there's more than one of them. So he can see with his naked eye that there's more than one of these creatures there. You just can't make it out in the film. So that was just digging into Doug's skin.

If you know Doug well enough to know, he's going to start digging and he's not going to stop until he gets what he wants. So that's what he did. And he worked on this for basically 20 years. He eventually had to go to the government, to the military to get some software to really enhance this footage, do the non-interlacing, and make it so he could actually see what he was wanting to see. And of course he made a discovery of what's now famously called the lift, the baby lift or the baby Bigfoot that's in the footage. So Cliff's also been working on it. Cliff has done his own sort of version of cleaning up the film and done some work to get it a little bit farther along just like Doug has. But recently within the last year, Michael Freeman, Paul Freeman's son, wrote the book The Freeman Files.

And as a part of that, you got to see this footage along with the, I think it's 10 plus hours of audio that Paul recorded over the course of his life out researching. And that's all a part of the book as well. But what I was going to do or wanted to do, I reached out to Michael, I reached out to Doug. And I said, hey, I'd like to get, you know, Cliff Berwickman was on board. Cliff was going to come back on the show. I was going to have Doug on, Michael Freeman. I was going to get Rush Jones, Dr. Rush Jones on. and we're going to kind of release some of the footage on the show and then have a round tape.

But just like you and I were talking before we went live here, it is almost impossible to get a lot of schedules lined up. And you're talking five or so people with that kind of schedule. It's been really tough. Every time I'd send out an email, I'd shoot people text messages and say, hey, I've got these five days lined up over the next week. Can you guys make it? There was always somebody. You know, it was Michael saying, oh, I can't do it. or Cliff's like, oh, sorry, I'll be out of town.

So I thought a light bulb went off in my head when Brandon reached out to me and said, hey, I'm going to have Dr. Jeff Meldrum's going to be there, Cliff Bergman's going to be there, you're going to be there, thinking, okay, well, what two better people to have a conversation with about the Freeman footage than those two. Let's reach out to Michael Freeman. So I shot him a text and said, hey, man, this thing's coming up. You think you'd be interested. He tried to work out of his schedule.

Okay, boom, he's on board. So now we've got Michael coming. So then I reached out to Doug and said, hey, man, can you come? And he's like, unfortunately, I will be, you know, 55 miles deep in the woods that weekend. But, hey, why don't I send Alex up there? And I'll send part of our crew from Legend Meet Science 2 to film the thing. And so I won't be there, but I'll send those guys. And I'm like, okay, well, that'll work.

So, so yeah, that's kind of where we are. And then I had another idea. I said to Brandon, this is kind of, of historic, dude. Very few people have ever seen this non-interlaced, enhanced, slowed down version of this film that's so crystal clear, why don't we work with Doug and Alex and those guys, and why don't we figure out if there's a way to make this conference available virtue? If people want to attend virtually, they can get a link and they can see the video, they can hear us break it down, they can hear us talk about it, they can be involved in the situation,

and they won't have to travel to Idaho. It's like 2,000 miles for me. So I know it's a tough trek for a lot of people to get there, right? And he's like, that's a brilliant idea. So we got with Doug, Alex, and Blaine and those guys are there, you know, they're fantastic. So anything they set their mind to, they get it done. And we just rolled it out. I had Doug and Brandon on Saturday.

I just released it. The show came out yesterday. But we sort of rolled out the announcement. Doug put together a cool, like, intro. It's about a minute long that sort of describes what's happening. It's kind of a trailer, if you will, for the upcoming conference. So that was a really long answer to say. It's a really cool conference.

If you could be there in person, we obviously want you to be there in person. But if you can't, you have the ability to see it virtually. And all you got to do is go on. And Doug has different packages. It's hangar1publishing.com. You can go over there, and it's right there on the homepage. And I think the lowest package is 1995. So you can literally be a part of this for less than 20 bucks, see the footage, be a part of the roundtable, and really, in my opinion, be a part of history.

I'm shocked that more people aren't talking about what's going on with the framing footage, the enhancements. And so hopefully we'll stir up a little interest, and if people are interested in it, they can pretend it virtually. So I don't know if it's ever been done, honestly. I know they've probably done some virtual conferences. I think you're actually involved in one that's coming up that I saw something about online recently. but yes I'm like am I yes I am I do my homework chair yeah thank you yeah no I'm Ryan Sprague is putting that on anomicon it's it's gonna be a good one yeah I'm excited but as far as bigfoot I've never seen it done I've been to a couple of conferences I've attended a couple of

conferences I've spoken in a couple of conferences already this year and I've not seen anybody that's done anything virtual like that that allows people to actually be a part of what the speakers are doing on stage in real time that I'm aware of. I could be wrong. I mean, it raises the bar for imagine if all bigfoot conferences like in, you know, the Ohio big foot conference, the big guys, like if they could do the same thing, it'd be in fantastic. I mean, for the cost of such a low cost, like 1999, I mean, it's a no-brainer that you want to be involved with seeing what's going on. So is this going to be the best ever footage of the, uh, Freeman footage then? Like this is the best you're ever going to see it. Oh, hands down.

There's no way it's ever going to get any better. It is, it is phenomenal. The first time I saw it, Michael sent it to me after I had him on the show, and I pulled it up on my computer and my jaw dropped because it's, it's so freaking clear. There's no, even to this day when I watch the Patty Faye Faye. And I've recently changed my opinion on that too, so we can talk a little bit about that if you Walt, but I've seen that so many times, and I still, there's this little tickle in the back goes, oh, I'm just not 100% there. But after I had the conversation with Michael and I saw this enhanced version of the film, I was 100% convinced.

You're not going to convince me otherwise that that's not a Sasquatch, and that's not a baby that's picking up off that tree. Just not going to happen. Wow. Don't you get a copy of the Freeman Bigfoot files that's one of the tiers, with this as well? Yes, you get an e-book. Yes.

You get the book with every time. So you can literally read the book and look in and see what Paul was doing in his research. And you can hear things in his own words. You can hear him talking. His audio diary is there. And it's amazing. I mean, the book itself is like 70 bucks if you buy it by itself. But as a part of one of the tiers that you can attend this conference virtually,

you can get a copy of the e-book and get access to all of that in perpetuity forever. it yours. So when I was reading through that and listening to everything before I had Michael Freeman on Bigfoot Society a while back I just remember listening to all the Paul Freeman audio clips and it's like you're literally listening to the Paul Freeman podcast is pretty much what it is and it is but you really get to like know how he is as like what his character is it's fascinating like people you know watch the conference live also you get

the book and the book is so worth reading. Michael did a great, great job with that. So I'm excited that you guys are putting this together, that the high checks figured out how to make it all, you know, the tech wizard stuff. Very, very cool. You're such a busy guy, Brian. You got a lot of really cool stuff and I appreciate that because you've gotten to the point where like you, you're doing some cool, cool stuff and it's very inspiring. But another one, another thing I want to, hear from you is, you are taking a trip soon enough where you are headed up to a special place with a particular gentleman. And I'm going to let you just present it the way that you would like because I think it's a very

fascinating story. Yeah, it's another thing that sort of, wow, I won't say that fell in my lap. That was more of a long time coming. And I had the opportunity to take this trip last year. and I just couldn't make it work with my schedule, but the opportunity presented itself again, and I am going up to BC Canada to the Radium area on an expedition with Todd standing in October. And I say that was a longer, it took a lot longer to get to that point because it took me probably a year to get Todd on my show. And I would say the reason for that is is because I called him a hoaxer for about a year before I got him on the show.

And, you know, I have strong opinions about his videos that he presents as evidence, you know, in his documentary and his YouTube channel and wherever he puts those out there. You know, and it really took getting Survivor Man less Stroud on the show, I think to persuade Todd to come on the show because I don't know, it's probably two weeks after I had less on the show. then Todd was like, okay, I'll come on your show. Because we talked about him for 30 minutes, you know, and had a really in-depth conversation because it was the closest thing I could get because less had been out with Todd. You know, he spent weeks in the woods with him, and I wanted to get Les's perspective because I respect the less. I think he's a very honest guy, and I knew he wasn't going to BS me when I asked him

these tough questions. So I did, and it was more, it's not about Todd as a person. I've never, I've never wanted it to be about Todd as a person. It's about Todd's evidence and what he presents is it. So that's where we kept it. And I asked, Les, I said, what were your concerns about the videos? And he was honest. He said, look, dude, I held the cards in my hand.

I held the video, you know, the medium in my hand. And the videos are real. I don't see anything as far as, you know, me being able to point out this is fake and this is one. He said, my concern was, where's the B-roll? where's the leading up to and where's the after than it happens, right? And so I was like, we got into that on the show. And he's like, you know, that's the one thing that I've, you know,

called him out for. And of course, Todd has these answers. And Les sort of went through that on the show. I think Les was episode 68 at my show, if anybody wants to go back and listen to them. The remastered version has come out in the last month or so. But if you look for Les Stroud, you'll find the episode. But so we get into that. And Les is like, you know, that was the only thing because it's the typical thing, right?

If you look at any Bigfoot video online, you call it onto YouTube and it's just boom, somebody's filming trees and then all of a sudden something walks out. Where's the backstory? Why were you there? Why were you filming the tree? Why were you having the camera pointed in that direction, right? Where's the footage that led up to that? Did you walk up for 30 minutes and then, you know, that kind of stuff? So that was the one thing that really stuck out to Les.

And he really never got answers as far as the one. wine, you know, there was always, well, this happened, the camera wasn't dead, or this happened, or this happened, it was never really any real explanation. So, you know, it didn't really change my opinion. And then once Todd came on the show, you know, asking some tough questions about it. And he defended himself, you know, to his credit, he came on the show, no one wanted to expect. He was coming into an environment with a guy who had called him a hoax her for a year. And we had a very amicable conversation.

And it wasn't, we didn't always agree on everything. We sort of agreed to disagree. But at the end of that conversation, I had a better respect or a new respect for Todd the man. He's not a bad guy. You know, we've talked afterwards. We've had conversations. He's got a couple of my videos. I've let him use some of my interviews on his YouTube channel.

You know, so I just have a problem with what's happening as far as the evidence is concerned. And he basically invited me at that point. He's like, look, look, well, come up, yeah, let me prove it to you. Put your money where you mouth is. You know, come up, go out on an expedition, I'll take you out. You never guarantees that you're going to see a Sasquatch, but, you know, he's like, just come on out and you'll see this the real deal. So that's what I'm doing in October, man.

I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and go up and take the trip. And, you know, I've said it before. I wish those things were real. I wish that those were real big, I don't think that Todd hasn't had experiences. I think he has had experiences and probably continues to have some sort of experiences. I've interviewed several people who have been on expeditions with and who have seen a Sasquatch and or had some really intense experiences. And who knows?

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See what happens. So, Brian, what kind of equipment are you bringing up there for tech documentation? First and foremost, I am looking into a brand new camera. I do not have a great camera. I'm like most people. My only camera has been my iPhone for years, but I wanted a really good camera because I'd like to do some on-site interviews. So I want really good quality video. So I'm getting a camera that'll shoot HD quality video, high-quality audio, and really good pictures with a decent zoom because I'm anticipating that I may be taking some long-range photos. So I'm investing about 500 bucks into a camera, and I'm also going to invest in some really good audio recorders because I want to have those on.

hand. I'm planning on having an audio recorder going 24 hours of day, seven days a week. I found a couple of models through some good friends of mine and some listeners of the show have reached out and done some recommendations. So I think I found a Sony that records for like 50 hours straight on one battery. So I'm really excited about that. If I can take enough batteries up there and keep that going to be there for like seven days. So it's going to be a lot of audio. It's going to be a ton of stuff to go through when I get back. But I think it's going to be worth it because I'm going to have it go on 24-7. And, you know, like I said, I like to do some on-scene, you know, interviews, maybe with Kyle, maybe with Todd. And then, of course, we'll probably do a debrief

and have them both back on the show once we get back to talk about what happens, what doesn't happen, and what all that good stuff. Absolutely. That sounds, that sounds like it's going to be a fascinating journey. What kind of evidence would it take up there for you to have to, at the end to be like, okay, there's Bigfoot here. I experienced something. It's legit. Like, what would it take? That's a good question, man. I don't know. Outside of actually having a visual and seeing one, that's the other thing I'm taking binoculars, I have a brandy pair of binoculars that was going with me as well. So, you know, outside of seeing one, I really don't know what to say, man, because I have found so many things here on my property.

I found a footprint like three weeks ago. And it's, you know, the first thing that I go to is Occam's Razor. It's not a footprint. It's Paradulia. It's something else. It just looks like a footprint. You know, I'm still questioning my own stuff. You know, I just posted a bunch of pictures from yesterday.

I did a hike, you know, yesterday, Sunday. Yeah, Sunday we did a hike. And I found a bunch of really weird tree breaks, another one looks like a nest site. and there's like a, I don't know, probably a 300 pound cedar log that's balanced in between two trees, about 10 feet up, and a weird area where there's a pine tree stuck into what looks like a den on the side of a mound. It's just really weird stuff. You can see the pictures on the Taskwatch Odyssey Instagram, and I think I did it on TikTok as well, but just really weird stuff. So I find that kind of stuff here, and I just sort of brush it off.

you know, I set the picture of the footpoint or what looks like a footprint to Doug. I texted it to him and I'm like, tell me I'm not crazy, dude. Like this looks like a footprint, right? And he's like, it looks like a handprint to move. He's sort of pointing out where it looks like maybe a thumb. And I'm like, I don't know. It's just such a slippery slope with all of that stuff. So unless I saw what made the footprint, if I didn't see a Sasquatch

stepping into the creek where I found the footprint, I'm never going to defend it and say it was from the Sasquatch. So I think it would take me seeing me. And I've said, you know, people have asked me that question. I was on Pine Island Research as a guest earlier in a couple of weeks ago with Jeff, maybe a week ago. And it's like I told him, you know, even if I'm up there in the camp and Sasquatch comes in and sits down and has a cup of coffee at breakfast, it's not going to change my opinion about what's happened with the videos and the evidence in the past. Now, of course, I would say had a cup of coffee with a Sasquatch, maybe.

but unless it looked exactly like one of the ones that was in the video and I knew in I grew up in Girl Southport, it's not going to change my opinion of the evidence that we've seen over the last 10 years. But then I would come back and absolutely say, yes, there's activity there because I saw well. So I think that's what it would take for me is I would actually have to be able to see one and then know that that was real. And that isn't me laughing at Todd. That's just me laughing at a visual I had in my head that was so.

ridiculously funny. But man, I am excited to hear what happens from your journey up there, your future journey. That's going to be great. You know, the cool thing, you know, I love talking to people on Big Phist's side. I know you love talking to witnesses as well.

Is there a certain interview that sticks out in your mind that you're like, man, if Sasquatch Odyssey could only be one episode and listeners could only listen to one like this is the one. Is there something that sticks out in your mind? Yeah, there's probably a couple. Okay. I think honestly, it sounds kind of cheesy, but I would say the Les Stroud interview was

probably one of my favorite interviews ever, just because of the person that he is and just the genuine honesty that he exudes about everything in his life. you know, he's had a fascinating life way outside of Bigfoot with his show, the way that happened. I mean, he created a genre that we enjoy to this day, you know, with this sort of lost, you know, in the woods, naked and afraid, alone, you know, all those shows. So just that journey, that's kind of where we started the interview because I was a fan of Survivor Man before the Survivor Man Bigfoot stuff. So I think that gives you a really good portrait if you were just to listen to the episode, what the show's really about. And then the conversation we have about Bigfoot and the open and the honest

conversation about some of the, I don't, I was on a show recently where somebody said, I don't use the word woo anymore. I call it high strangeness. So I'll say the high strangeness that has been involved in some of his experiences out in the woods. And it was just a really good conversation. And he presents it very well, obviously, because that's what he does for, you know, decades on television. Yeah. And then just recently, I'd say within the last couple of months. There was a hunter. I think his name was Daniel. And his really weird experience, I say weird, because if you listen to the episode, it sounds really intense. And it is intense. It's about an hour and a half long because he tells every minute detail of his encounter because he is just reliving it.

And then I found out why afterwards. You know, people gave me guff. Of course, you know, you get those messages. You should have shut that guy up and took an hour and a half to tell a story. That should have lasted 40. Absolutely. Absolutely, Brian. Go ahead. Sorry. You know, you know where I'm coming from. But you have to, as a host, at least for me, you have to just shut up and let people go through their process. And I found out afterwards, he told me sort of after it was over. That was the first time, like he's told pieces to his wife. He had told pieces of his encounter to his dad. We had told a piece to a good friend, but that was basically it. He had never told the entire story from beginning to end to anybody but me.

So it was very important for him to get every detail because he told me, he was like, this is like the first and only time I'm telling it, and I'm don't. I'm moving all of my life because it was such a traumatic experience for him. He admitted openly on the show. He's like, I tried to bury myself in a bottle, dude. Like I tried to drown it in a bottle of whiskey for a year or two after this encounter because I was so messed up by it. But in a nutshell, if you listen to the episode, you'll get.

it's tree knocks. He's out elk hunting with his dad. His dad goes into his area. He goes into his area. And he starts hearing wood knocks. And he starts following the wood knocks. They'll stop. Wood knock again.

He follows where the sound's coming from. This happens over the course of about 30 minutes. This goes on. And it culminates with him being basically 20 feet away from this thing stepping out behind the tree. They kind of have this, oh, crap moment of do I shoot it? Do I run? What do I do? It's a whole thing. But it's a very, very intense encounter. But he's sitting at his pickup truck outside of his house during this interview. And he's got his phone up on the dash and I'm watching him. And I'm just intense.

I'm just right into his face and his body language the whole time. And this dude was, he was traumatized by this experience. So that was one that really stuck out to me in intensity. And at the end of his encounter, you know, wood knocks are pretty common. but, and this is, of course, objective and it's probably a lot of projection, but at the end of it, he felt really upset with himself because he should have known better because he felt like this thing was lowering him in with the woodmops. And I never heard that before. He's like, you know, I said, why do you think that, man? And he said, because it only not when I stopped walking. If I stopped and I wasn't making progressive movements towards where this thing the knock was coming from, it would knock again.

I would move forward, and when I stopped again to listen, he would not. And he felt like he was being lured in. And of course, people have said, no, I don't believe that. I don't think he was being lowered in. Well, that was certainly his opinion on the situation. And I'm going to take his word for it because I wasn't there and he was. That's a really interesting encounter that has stuck out to me, you know, out of 300 plus shows. It's hard to say, you know, what's the best or what sticks out.

But just those two, I think if you wanted a snapshot of what the show is really, really all about. It would be those two episodes. It's sort of our, you get the celebrity part of Bigfoot, because I do interview a lot of people who are somebody in the Big Book community, you know, that's part of it. But the majority of the show is about Joe Schmo and Jane, whomever, who has had really intense encounters with something that they just can't explore. That's what is really all about for me. I love that. No, man, that's so good. Definitely going to have those in the show notes. Brian, what do you feel

after all these years of talking to people and probably doing some research yourself? What do you think this creature is? That is such a tough question, man. Just literally last night, I finished the last chapter of Matt Pruitt's The Phnominal Sasquatch boy.

And that question, those questions that Matt asks in the book still stick out to me to this day. You know, and those two questions are, we clearly know the phenomenon exists, right? Big Zoic phenomenon has existed for thousands of years. But are they a real creature? Or do they only exist in the minds of the people who believe that they're living? I believe that they're a flesh and blood creature.

I believe that they are real. I just don't know what they are. You know, I think there are probably some sort of, you know, the gigantic. antelipithecus thing has been out there for a lot of years, and I've never really subscribed to that. I think it's more some sort of a possible Australopithecine of some sort, maybe, you know, I don't know, but I think it's some sort of maybe a relict hominoid or possibly even a hominian that's existed without being detected. Well, I can't say without being detected.

It's detected a hundred times plus a year with people seeing them. So, you know, but undiscovered, let's put it that way. I think it's some sort of undiscovered, bipedal, ape-like creature that we still don't know what they are. So I love it. I'm very close to that myself. I'm right there with you, man. I'm one of the, I'm in the flesh and blood camp. My caveat to that is, A, animals can do weird stuff.

So who's to say it can't do weird stuff too? I mean, you look at like I was at the Omaha Zoo with my family. a few weeks ago, the echinna has a way of, um, uh, it can sense electrical pulses, uh, through a sensor, uh, well, you know, the animal equivalent of that and it's, it's a snout. Google, who's to say that there's another creature that can't do that, some like that? But, um, it's very, very wild stuff. Have you ever been, you know, besides you're going to go with Todd standing out to raise? Have you ever been on a like an actual like let's take a weekend. Let's go out. Let's go hardcore squatching. Have you ever done that? Or is this your first time going out with Todd?

Yeah. This will be the first actual Bigfoot expedition for me. Right. I mean, everything else for me has been on my own property. That's one of the reasons that we purchased so much property when we bought the 40 acres that we own like five or six years ago is I wanted to create. create sort of a sanctuary for me and other like-minded people who may want to come out and just see what's out there. And I had no idea that there was even a possibility of having any kind of activity on the property. But we've had some weird stuff happening with vocalizations and, you know, weird rock formations, possible gifting stuff that's happened, you know. But just the vocalizations alone for me would have been enough to drive.

me to continue to go out. I used to do tons of night hikes and sort of many, you know, once a week I'd go out for four or five hours and just hike after dark and explore certain areas of the property as much as I could, obviously, with a headlamp or whatever. And after we heard some of the vocalizations I've heard here, I stopped the night hikes, too, because I'm like, really? Oh, snap. Yeah. I've heard some weird stuff that has just made me say, no, thank you. I'm not going outside. What, so I mean, listeners might know there's different types of vocalizations. You can hear like Ohio, howl, stuff like that.

So, like, are you able to describe, like, what kind of stuff were you hearing at night? The majority of it started when we put a hot tub on the end. We have a 400 square foot tiny house. So it's a really tiny house in the middle of 40 acres, right? So it's nothing but woods around us. So we have a deck out front and we put a hot tub out front. And I think it was two winters. years ago was the first time we had the high tub. And, you know, we're out there at midnight,

drinking a glass of wine in the hot tub. It's 40 degrees, you know, and it's probably, I don't know, March, February, March. And here, there's a huge ridge behind us with about, I think there's about 150 to 200 acres of just raw land behind us on the back of the ridge. And in that general area probably, I don't know, I'm estimating mile, mile and a half. We could hear what sounded like Ohio howl kind of vocalizations. And I heard that several times. I'm like, yeah, yeah, you just kind of list. Yeah, it sounds weird, you know, just finish up your glass of wine, go in the house,

and whatever. And it wasn't something we'd hear every single night. You know, we'd be out there pretty much every night. I'd say maybe twice a week you'd hear something like. and just, I think maybe that same year, so we're talking like two years ago, that same year, like in the spring, it was still cool outside, but it was, we have nothing but windows in the launch where we sleut in the house. So we had the windows open. I'd finished up the show. I had a good interview.

I was writing down some show notes and things before I went to bed. And we hear probably 40 yards, maybe 50 yards. in the woods from the house. Like Ohio howl type howl. And it sort of ends with like a bark on the ant. And it was super loud

to the point where I felt it. And it was enough to scare the shit out of it. I was oh, my goodness, too. Wow. It was literally, what was that? I don't know. What was that? Do you hear that?

Yes, I heard that. And then, And then they're like, Ryan, you're the guy who talks to people about it. Like, you go down. Like, I don't know. You know, I'm not going out. I'm not going out. And that's what people ask me to.

Did you go out and check? No, I did not. I did not want to see what it was. I didn't want to get any closer than we already were. And of course, people said, well, it was a person. No, more wasn't a person. Let's go, girls. You know what I love about Addie?

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but I suspect everything happens for a Reese's like this commercial break did you need 15 seconds away from music or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's perhaps it's true everything happens for a Reese's and I don't know man I just and like I said it we found the footprint that's probably been three weeks ago now about three weeks ago on a hike found the footprint on a hike all the weird stuff the tree breaks the stacked bullcrum type things found a rock formation stacked at the top of the ridge back at the back where we stop and usually have a snack in that area. And then literally like two, maybe two days later, I can't remember who I told.

I was on a, I was a guest on another show when I talked about this recently. You know, we're in the country. So, you know, I have a tendency to get up and go out on the porch and pee off the porch at three o'clock ago, right? Yeah. So I did that. And I'd never heard anything that ever resembled a tree knock. until that night it was about 315 and I hear what sounds like four power knocks.

Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And I'm like, what the hell is going on? Just out of the blue. Never heard it before. And it was like, it was like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. It was really, really fast. And I'm thinking, okay, it's 3.15. Now, I used to live in Atlanta.

I was a city of Atlanta, right? Three o'clock in the morning in Atlanta, you're liable to hear anything. Not in Lenore, North Carolina, dude. They roll up the sidewalks at like 7.30 on the weekdays. And this was like a Wednesday. I don't know what it could have been. I really don't. Like nobody's up hammering at that time of the day.

Nobody's doing construction, you know, across the ridge. I don't know, man. It was just really, really weird. And it, you know, I didn't see what did it. I would call it power knocks. It sounded like tree knocks to me. So I don't know. Just really weird stuff.

But have you contemplated putting up like any recorders around your property, audio recorders? I've talked about that. Doug has been after me. David Ellis has been after me for years to be got to. And I just, you know, I'm going to do it. I'm ordering a couple of those. I'm definitely going to take some to the outing with me in October up at Radium. And I'm going to order them and start using them here so I can get proficient with them and understand them.

So I'm going to start doing that and putting those out on the property because it is a good idea. Like I would love to have some of the stuff that we've heard captured on Hogno. It would be amazed. But of course, it's like everything else, you know. And I'm really upset at plenty of times on the show. I'm apprehensive to even put it out there because I am the dude with a Bigfoot podcast. And then you start talking about having things happen. And people like, I don't know about that you.

Well, I don't know. Yeah, I get it. But, you know, I just, if people listen and people know me well enough, they know I'm no BS. Like, I just put it out there. It is what it is. don't make anything up. You'll never hear me say anything definitive about Bigfoot because I don't know, unless I know. If I see it, now if I see it making a footprint, I'm going to tell you, yeah, I casted that and I saw the Bigfoot made.

But otherwise, I'm just going to say it looks like a footprint. It could be, could have been wood knock. I don't know. Definitely wasn't a woodpecker at 315 in the normal. Yeah, man, that would be bad news. What is, do you have any thoughts? You know, there's a topic that I love. and I love talking to people from or people, you know, Oklahoma, I love Oklahoma,

Saskatch, Bigfoot, that LaFlor County. Do you have any thoughts about Bigfoot in Oklahoma? I just love it so much, dude. I have talked to so many people recently. It's turned into the Oklahoma Area Exist. Bigfoot podcast because it started with Darrell Collier, then it was Michael Mays, and then it was Brian Brown and Matt Proof. It's actually coming on. Matt's coming on at the end of the month. I've got a interview schedule with him. I'm going to get to hang out with him at the Sasquatch, the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot

conference on Saturday. So that'll be fun. He'll be up there peddling his books and hanging out with cliffs, and I'm going to get to hang out with those guys. But Oklahoma Sasquatch is crazy, man. I just had an interview with Randy Herrington last night. Oh, yeah. Randy and I talked for about an hour and a half, and he has got some wild encounter stories from Oklahoma, Luffaloa County in particular at a campsite where he had his, it's a crazy encounter.

I don't know if you've heard it or not, if you've talked to him to rain. Is it, it's the one where they unzip the, is it that one? It's the one where he's in the truck. He's in the bed, he's in his, the cab of his truck, and he's got everything blinded out. He's put curtains and things up to make them think, to fool the Sasquatch into thinking he's not in the campsite because he's there in like February. And it's a whole wild story, but basically here's rattling on the trash can, something's picking up and pulling a cinder block off of a trash can lid and lifting it up. And he looks out the front, he peeks out his little blind and he's got set up in the cab of his big doodly pickup truck. And he sees two Sasquatch.

And then they go around behind his truck. And one of them climbs up on the bed of his truck onto looking over the bed, these ladder racks of his truck. It's crazy. It's a crazy story. But that happened in a campsite in the forecambe. I've talked to him before. It was after I went out with Tate last August to go squatching in Iowa. And I captured something on audio where it unzips my tent.

Really messed with me for a few weeks. Still messes in me. And I talked to Randy. And he's like, oh, yeah, they totally could unzip stuff. I'm like, oh, man, Randy. So now you're freaking me out. He's a great, that's going to be a great episode. I'm looking forward to that, man.

That's good stuff. Oh, boy. Hey, I haven't asked this question for a long time, but you're an educated individual. What do you have, I'm sure you have an awesome Bigfoot bookshelf. What are your like top three go-to squatching books? Well, that's changed recently because I like to change it up. I would say number one on the book list is probably Sask, I'm looking at them now. Sasquatch legend meets science.

Nice. And I do have the quantum Bigfoot. It's there. It's in the rotation because I think there are some things to be gleaned there from, you know, some of the things that Ron talks about. And I think, you know, the top three would be rounded out now with Matt Bruitt's book. Wow. Very cool. Okay, it is, I have it right here, and it's next up to be read.

So I'm excited to dig into it. Buckle your seatbelt, dude. You probably ought to get your thesaurus out because Matt uses words that I had to look up myself. I talked to him recently. I called him a couple of, well, I called him about a month or so back because I've got a TV thing going on, and I was interested in maybe him being a possibility of being involved in it. So I called Matt up and we're talking about something else, and we started talking about podcasting. I just came back from a conference here in Counterquest in North Carolina.

Yeah. And I told Matt, it's so funny that I have so many listeners, obviously, from my home state that kind of follow. If they know I'm going to be somewhere in North Carolina, they try to make it out if they can. And I probably had six or eight people come up to the table. And I like to ask them, you know, what's your favorite episode of the show? What do you like so much about the show? If there's one, like, I don't like you asked me, what stuck out to you? And without fail, I had at least six or eight people that day say, that dude, I can't

remember his name. I think it was Matt. I said, Matt Pruitt. They're like, yeah, what was that word at the beginning of the show? And I said, very similitude. And they go, yeah, very similitude. It's the funniest thing because Matt, you know, they have the Apes Among Us podcast. So good. And Matt had done an episode. And it was right before, I think it was right before. He put it out right before he came on the show the first time a couple of years ago. And I heard the episode. And he does this diet tribe about verisimilitude and i thought it was brilliant it was like a minute and a half two minutes and i after he came on the show i called him up a couple of days later and i said dude i'm editing your show together i want to change the intro and i want it to be all about verisimilitude can i

use that audio from apes among us and play it he's like absolutely he said you think people be interested in that it's amazing how it stuck to people they probably still don't know what the word means, but they like it because of the way that he used it. And he talks about, it was part of, I don't want to give anything away, but there is a part of Matt's book where Verisimilitude comes up and he talks about what that means and what it means to the Bigfoot community. So I just thought it was so cool, but there are a lot of big words. And to his credit, I think he starts out the book talking about that. And that's one of the things we talked about before the book came out when he was still getting it done. He's like, you know, people have been telling me for years, I need to dumb down

talking Bigfoot, and I'm just refusing to do it because I think it's, I don't think we have to do that. And I agree, man. I don't think dumbing it down is going to help anybody. I think it raises the bar. And anybody who reads that book and everybody I've talked to who has read that book says the same thing. It's one of the most brilliantly written books on the subject that they've ever read. And it goes into what it could be, what it might be. There's so much stuff to dig into.

And Matt does it in a beautiful way. He's a really, really talented writer. So I can't wait for you to read it. I can't wait for you to send me that text and let me know what you think about it. Absolutely. If you like it as much, I did. That's a really cool top three. I like that top three.

That's awesome, Brian. Let's end with this. And you reminded me because you mentioned the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot conference is coming up really quick. But you're doing something really cool for that. Do you mind going over how you're going to be involved with that conference? It's a really cool thing that you're doing. Yeah. it's really interesting. It's right up my alley. It's something out a couple of times.

You know, I've been to that conference a couple of times as just a spectator. I went the first year in 2021. Last year we were there as a vendor. And then this year, you know, Marty and Nick, you reached out to me and said, hey, we'd like you to be a part of this. We'd like you to handle the encounters portion of the show. Because they had, you know, typically I think they would do some encounters after each one of the speakers. So it was kind of broken up throughout the program. And I think it's important because there's a lot of people who want to share their encounters live in front of those people. Some people have never told their stories before and they're going to do it for the first time on that huge stage in front of three to four thousand people. So they asked me if I

would handle that. So I am at 3.30 on Saturday, I will be handling the encounters portion. We should have some really cool encounters to be shared. So I'm really looking forward to it because normally the MC does it. RPG is the MC this year again. And normally it's just something sort of an afterthought, honestly, the MC handle, but to be able to actually sit down on stage and let the people have their moment is really important to me. And I already had a couple of listeners. Actually, at my show, I was talking to one. I was texting back and forth before I got on with you.

Who's going to be there to tell a story? He's like, I'm nervous, man. And he's like, I don't think I could do it if you weren't going to be on the stage. Wow. Like, well, that's what it's all about, man. You don't have to be nervous. I got you. I got you back.

I'm right there with you every step of the way. I think that will change the dynamic. That was sort of my idea. I told Marty, I think you need to have somebody as a moderator on the stage kind of walking people through it because it is a tough thing just to hand a microphone to Joe who's never been up in front of anybody and talking and say, hey, there you go. But when you have somebody who's willing to take that journey with Dan and go right along with them every step of the way, physically on the stage, I think it's going to make a big difference.

At least I hope so. So I'm really excited about it. I think you'll see, if you've been there before and you've seen how it's handled in the past, I think you'll see a marked difference this year in how the encounters are highlighted and really becomes part of the show. Oh, that's really exciting. People that are attending that are going to get a real tree for sure. I've never had so many people ask me if I'm going to be at a conference. That's the conference.

And I had to say this year, no, but we do have plans to be there. for the 2024 conference will be traveling down from Iowa to Gallenburg, Tennessee for that, just because it is such an amazing conference. So it'll be a good, good time in 2024. But, Brian, this has been such a fun chat. It's been long overdue.

Do you mind taking a few minutes and just anything you want to throw out there, how people can keep up to date with what you're doing, all that good stuff? Now is definitely the time to throw it all out there. Sure. If you want to listen to the show, anywhere you listen to Bigfoot Society on any podcast app you can get the show. We have a YouTube channel, Sasquatch Odyssey podcast on YouTube.

You can check it out there. We're not just my show. There's tons of shows, really. We're sort of a network of shows. We have the paranormal Odyssey in addition to Sasquatch Odyssey. I do a true crime show called True Crime Odyssey. And we've added a couple of other shows to our network recently. The Kentucky X-Files, we've got Tyler Denny and Josh.

And we also just had the guys from the basement hangout. Chad and Bob joined the network. They're all going to be with me in Tennessee at the Gallenberg conference. So we're going to have a huge time at the booth. So if anybody's in that area and you want to come by and see us, make sure you stop by the booth. We're the first booth on Speaker Road. You can't miss us. As soon as you walk out, you're going to see us.

We're going to be right in your face right across from Seth Breedlove and those guys at Smalltown Marstress. They're a huge booth. So, yeah. And like I said, anywhere you can get your podcast. You could check out Sasquatch Odyssey. We'd love to have you listen. Give those other guys to listen to. They do some fantastic shows.

Yeah. Check us out. For my TikTok fans, follow Sasquatch Odyssey on TikTok because it's got some really cool stuff over there. And we need more people to be hanging out with him on TikTok. But, Brian, thank you so much for coming on. This has been a great chat. And just have a great rest of your night.

And I can't wait to see what you come up with next. Awesome. You too, Jamma. I appreciate it. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Then we can start the conversation.

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