Bigfoot Society - Bumping Lake Bigfoot with Tristan Yolton

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

Tristan Yolton is a Washington based Bigfoot researcher. This episode focuses primarily on his recorded audio evidence around Bumping Lake which you will hear in the interview. Tristan also shares his... thoughts on best practices regarding recording audio during Bigfoot investigations.Join the only Facebook group for Van Meter Visitor fans - “Van Meter Visitor Believers” - See you there!https://www.facebook.com/groups/vanmetervisitorbelievers/?ref=shareFOR MORE INFO ON THE VAN METER VISITOR FESTIVAL:https://www.facebook.com/vanmetervisitorfestival/Join us over on Patreon! Get access to extra audio content, exclusive merch like a membership card and stickers, watch me interview guests weekly live on video, a Patron-only Discord and more.https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyPick up a Bigfoot Society shirt to rep the podcast!https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietyTune in for new episodes of Bigfoot Society!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7QFor full links go to:www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com

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Starting point is 00:01:25 It walked out of thicket. It turned around and looked at me. Looked up and in this tree, there was a monkey man. And the monkey man jumped down out of the tree. It started running away. And suddenly they're right in front of the car. He slams on the brakes and manage to stop. pretty skidding because it's like quite, you know, grappling.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And literally for about a second and a half, they just stood there because they don't know where to go. And you tell them, panic, and they're like, through nothing, their face is like twitching. Welcome back to Bigfoot Society, a podcast where we focus on cryptids, the strange and the unexplained of this world. If you've got a story or something weird to share, send an email over to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. And if you'd like to support this show, head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Tristan Yolton today.
Starting point is 00:02:47 He's a Bigfoot researcher from Washington State. How's it going today, Tristan? It's going great. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, you got it. You got it. It's a lot of people have been thrown your name around. and I remember seeing you in Tate's, I believe,
Starting point is 00:03:03 is a Bumping Lake documentary he did in his series that came out a little bit ago. A search for Sasquatch, search for Sabbe. But is there anything else that the listeners should know about you, Tristan, to kind of set the stage? Well, growing up, I've always been interested in monsters and creatures and Bigfoot was one of the things I was interested in, but I was never,
Starting point is 00:03:30 I was never interested in going out there looking for it. It was just something that I like, you know, I like dinosaurs, you know, aliens and, you know, things like that, Godzilla. You know, I like those kind of things growing up. And Bigfoot was, you know, just another another thing that I liked that was interested in. But I never had any, you know, I didn't want to go out there to look for it. I just thought it was just something cool, you know. So that all changed for me, though, in 2000. when my father heard some whoops coming up from this hill behind our house one morning while he was taking the trash out.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And he didn't tell us about this until like a week later because he didn't really think anything of it. But I guess he was kind of stewing about it and maybe he thought maybe it could be Sasquatch. So he brought it up to me and my mom and we were like totally surprised. And so we decided to go up there. And my mom decided to go up on the sill and we left a recorder out and a jar of peanut butter and some peanut butter crackers. And the next day when we went up there, the jar looked like the jar looked like there was a hand that went inside of it. Like you could see some possible derminal ridges on the side of the, on the inside of the jar and possible like fingerprint, you know, finger holes inside of it, like possibly something took its hand in there and scooped it out, you know, skipped it out. you know, skipped out the peanut butter.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And the peanut butter crackers were, they were gone, but they looked like they were opened very neatly, not like, you know, ripped open like some kind of, like a bear or something would do it. It kind of looked like somebody carefully opened it and took the crackers out and ate it. And the weird thing, the most weird thing is, I had this recorder strapped to a stump with a bungee cord on it. And when I went over to it, the recorder looked fine. It looked like nothing touched it. But when I went home and listened to it on the computer, about an hour after we left the recorder up on this hill, and it became dark, I would say about an hour later,
Starting point is 00:05:41 something came in and as you hear on one of the recordings I have, you'll hear it eat the food, and then I guess it sees my recorder, it comes over to the recorder, it starts growling and messing with it, fumbling with it. And I mean, the thing is, there's no marks on the recorder or anything like that. So I had no idea that occurred. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And, you know, I've left recorders out in the woods before and I've had bears take them and, you know, chop on them and eat them. Oh, wow. And this, wherever this thing was, didn't do that. So that was very strange to me. And, you know, was that a bear that did this? I have no idea, but it's not the same kind of behavior that I've experienced with other recorder so really makes me wonder and also on the recording there's this really loud uh at the beginning of it there's a really loud humming humming feedback kind of a sound and i don't know if that's
Starting point is 00:06:41 a moth going by or something else but some kind of weird interference it just you know goes by the recorder and then a few seconds later you'll hear a a wood knock a possible wood knock in the background and a whoop you'll hear you'll hear that. And then about 30 seconds later this when you start hearing this thing start coming in and start eating the food and then you'll hear a loud, really
Starting point is 00:07:05 deep growl or it goes, ugh. I guess it sees my recorder and then about a few seconds later that's when you hear it come over to the recorder and start really growling and messing with the fumbling with the recorder. And then
Starting point is 00:07:21 after that happens, it just leaves. It just stops what it's doing and it just leaves and just it's silence. So again, if it was a bear, I would think the bear would really try to, you know, try to eat it and scratch it and chop
Starting point is 00:07:37 at it, but my recorder was intact. There was no scratches or tooth marks or anything on it. So that really perplexed me and to the day, I have no idea what that was. But with some of the sounds that you can hear on the recording, such as a possible wood knock
Starting point is 00:07:53 in the loop in the background. makes you wonder what was going on up there. That is really weird. And that, you know, I have listened to all your audio. As it turns out, that's not one of the ones I had queued up. But what I'll do is I will actually play that at the end of this interview so that listeners can hear that one as well. Because it is an interesting one, but you'll have to wait until the end of the interview to hear that one. Because I want to make sure you hear that one as it was referenced.
Starting point is 00:08:23 But let's give listeners, little bit of context as to so in that area where you had those big foot interactions at the beginning are you comfortable with maybe a certain region of Washington that you were in to give context for the listener?
Starting point is 00:08:46 I'll just say it's near the Cascade Cascades Cascade range near the mountains. Yeah it's not near the Olympics or anything like that. where the Olympic project is. It's like totally near the mountains, you know, mountain side. So, and that's the thing, too, like this area around where I am,
Starting point is 00:09:03 it's surrounded by forests and mountains everywhere. So it's the possibility of a Sasquatch been around is very, very high, in my opinion, very possible. Absolutely. What I think is happening or what was happening, because I don't, I don't even know if they're still going on up there, if that's what they are, if that's what it was. But we were thinking maybe this, this hill was a travel route for them and maybe they're going to and from you know like every night or every few days or something like that through there because they you know there's no there's really no at
Starting point is 00:09:36 the time there's really no development up there there was you know it's just pretty wood pretty much woods up there and there's a there's also a stream up there so maybe they were they felt comfortable and you know traveling that is a route every night or you know whatever they wanted to during, you know, during the night without being detected, being seen by anybody. And one other thing I want to mention about my dad's encounter, if you want to call it that, is after what you think is he was taking the trash out in the morning and then he was going to go to work. So on his way to work down down our road here, he saw a herd of elk standing in the middle
Starting point is 00:10:16 of the road and they were all looking up towards the direction of this hill up here. So they must have heard those whoops that my dad heard. And maybe that spooked them. But my dad actually had this. My dad had to drive around that herd of that was standing in the road. So he thought that was very odd behavior to see them, you know, do that, you know, to be focused on the hill up there. So I don't know, man. Yeah, I can't say for sure that that was a big foot, but really makes you wonder, though.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It does. And there's a lot of things from that account. that definitely makes you wonder what was what was going on there for sure. So after that, it sounds like you kind of really got interested in the whole Bigfoot thing. Is that right? Yes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah, definitely. And it's pretty, you know, it's pretty shocking to me because, you know, after all these years of living out here, I never had a clue that, you know, if Bigfoot exists, that they would probably be right, you know, near where I live. So that was a huge shock to me And that really got me interested And maybe I should start investigating this more And you know, the audio
Starting point is 00:11:28 Of course, hearing the audio It just really that really started it So yeah After I did that I started I started checking around Like I started looking on On websites for sightings and
Starting point is 00:11:43 Bigfoot groups And I won't say the name But we did get in contact with the Bigfoot group And we started searching with them for a few years. I would go on campouts with them. And that kind of, that was able to teach me, you know, some more things about what's going on out there possibly.
Starting point is 00:12:03 But unfortunately, I haven't really, I haven't really experienced that much with that group. But they did teach me, they were able, but going, but being part of that group, though, me, you know, things of what to look for and maybe hard to approach some of my research. Oh, sure. But in terms of experiences, though, I haven't really, to be honest with you, I haven't really experienced that much with the group, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Okay. So it's mostly been on my own kind of research is that where I've been able to collect things mostly. But I will say there's been some times where I have collected some audio like at Bumping Lake, if we would go to Bumping Lake, I would collect some audio there with them. you know, so yeah. So talking about Bumping Lake, which if you're in the Bigfoot community, that's a buzzword area that's been going around quite a bit over the last few years, depending on, you know, who you're keeping in contact with or whose YouTube channel you're, you're listening to watching. Can you describe the bumping lake area?
Starting point is 00:13:20 From what I know, it's a lake that is to the east of Mount Rainier, correct? Yeah, roughly, yes. Very high up in elevation, too, like 3,000 feet or so up in elevation. There's two ways you can get there. There's one way from Yakima to get there. And there's another way through to get the Kulchnok Pass, where you have to go up where you basically have to climb up this pass like up this mountain mountain to get there basically.
Starting point is 00:13:51 For me, for me it takes almost three hours to get the bumping lake. And the bumpy lake road itself, it'll take you 45 minutes to an hour. Well, actually 45 minutes just to get to the lake itself. It's a long, the main road getting there is a long road to take. And then just some campsites. So here's the thing. The bumping leg is very huge. It's a very huge lake.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And there's some camps, there's some primitive campsites behind it towards, you know, there's a dirt road behind it, which leads to these primitive campsites. And that's where we like to go in terms of our, you know, our campouts because it's away from the lake. It's more towards the mountains. And there's, there's an, there's some RV camp spots right next to the lake. And that's, that's where a lot of people. congregate and populate there. And we try to get away from that as much as we can.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And obviously during the summer, it's very popular. I mean, you'll see a whole bunch of people out there, fishing and rafting, doing all sorts of stuff out on the lake. But the surrounding area bumping leg is this forest and mountains. And in my opinion, it's perfect habitat for these guys. Like, though there's elk there, all sorts of wildlife. And of course, you've got the big lake, the source of, the source of water and there's also little creeks and streams around and a lot of woods
Starting point is 00:15:16 a lot of high peaks and everything like it's it's perfect for these guys to be there and uh yeah are there uh reports going back pretty far of seeing bigfoot there or is this a thing where it's just more recent times that people were realizing that there've been uh bigfoot's or Bigfoot, us seeing and heard in that area. Kind of like what you mentioned, like, Bumping Lake has been, it seems to be more popular in the past few years, but from what I understand,
Starting point is 00:15:50 it's been kind of like a secret area for a lot of Bigfoot researchers. You know, not a lot of people know about it until maybe the past couple of years, but I guess that's because more people are hearing about it and, you know, taking more people up there, kind of like what happened with my Bigfoot group is that they took,
Starting point is 00:16:07 because of so. Right. So it wasn't really, it wasn't really a well-known thing everywhere. It was just more kind of a secret area for a lot of the, I would say, maybe Washington researchers. And as far as, I mean, as far as how far back, I mean, it could be back from the 80s and 90s is from, from, you know, from what I know. Yeah, there could be a lot of, you know, people, I know people, I know people going up there for years. So it could be, you know. episode of plant killers will explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt.
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Starting point is 00:19:19 search for reports dating back, you know, back then, too. So. Oh, no doubt. Yeah. You know, if you know where to look for those, you know what I mean? Right. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:30 So. Let's talk about, um, so going over, you know, I was looking over, you know, I was looking through all the files and folders you sent over. And from what I, one of the things I got right away is that you've been studying, you've been researching this area and gotten evidence out of it for multiple years. There were folders, you know, 2020,
Starting point is 00:19:56 2021, 2021, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Have you had any interesting encounters? Or, what kind of things have come out of your time researching in the Bumping Lake area that you consider interesting when it comes to Bigfoot research?
Starting point is 00:20:21 Well, I guess the main thing for me at Bumping Lake is gather an audio at these primitive campsites. As I named in some of the folders, there's one called California Camp. There's two main, for me, there's two main camps that I go to that were introduced to me with my Bigfoot group that I was going with. One is called California Camp and another one is called Rock Camp. And the interesting thing about those is that they're a mile apart from each other, not that close to each other. But they're still very far out there, the very remote primitive camp spots. and Rock Camp, for example, was very popular with the Bigfooters. Like, I've gone there and I've seen other Bigfooters camp there.
Starting point is 00:21:10 So it's a very well-known spot. And I know that Bob Gimlin, he's been there before and he's had some stuff happened to him there. Oh, really? That's cool. Yeah. So, yeah, it's a very popular spot. But yeah, they call it Rock Camp because it's a, it's a, it's a, It's a camp that's kind of, it's like a circular camp that's surrounded by some high,
Starting point is 00:21:37 some high cliffs and peaks behind it. And there's a rock, a big rock shell behind it. And, but I guess that's where they got rock camp from. I really don't know for sure, but that's what I'm assuming why they call it rock camp. And for me, that's the majority of my Bigfoot audio, if you want to call it that, has occurred at this camp. There's like a little hill above, there's, There's a within this big circle, there's a camp, there's like a main campfire.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And behind it, there's just a bunch of woods, basically. And then there's like a rock shale. And then that mountain peaks behind it, all surrounded by woods. And if you, if you watch Tate's documentary, you'll see some of that, you know, you'll see some of that. And the thing is, uh, I believe that if there's saskwashed there, they are coming down from that, from that mountain, mountain peak and rock shale. And they're coming down to this hill. that's right above our camp and they're watching us, you know, at the campfire or doing whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:36 But I think they're up. I think they come down and watch us from this hill that's behind us. And I possibly think they're juveniles. I possibly think they're juveniles because I, when I put an audio recorder up in this hill, I've gotten some, I mean, as you probably heard on the audio, I've gotten some weird language kind of, you know, sounds and, you know, speech and chatter and stuff like that. And that's not us. We're not making those sounds at the campfire. I mean, I have these recorders pointing at the woods.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And there's no campers behind us. That's all woods back up in there. So something's coming down and making those sounds, man. And I can't say for sure it's Sasquatch because I didn't see it. But something is making those sounds. And I personally think it could be juveniles doing that. Before we get into some of the audio. just to just to clarify how far away from other well so you've got the California camp and the rock camp you said are a mile apart from each other right yeah yeah those camps are a mile so there's like a dirt road right there's a it's a it's a bumpy dirt road it's really it's not paved or anything like that like it's it's really rough on it's really rough on your tires i would i've seen people go through it like crazy but they shouldn't
Starting point is 00:23:59 because they'll pop a tire easily. These are very primitive campsites. And yeah, some of the campsites are a mile apart. Others are like maybe across the road, but still, still, you know, little ways away from each other. But like I said, like this rock camp, for example, there's no campsites behind, behind us there. So there's no way anybody can come through there from behind. Got it. You know, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And again, I'm getting like some of these sounds are happening way, late at night too. So who would have this outside behind us doing that? That's what I'm, I'm curious as to the con. So you listen to some of these sounds and I'm like, I got to have the context in the story behind these sounds because some of them are wild, man. Let's go ahead and let's start with one of them. I'll play the sound first and then you can give the story behind it.
Starting point is 00:24:52 So here we go. That's so wild, dude. So that wasn't recorded up bumping lake, which is fine. That is, that was recorded at an area about an hour away behind my house. That's behind your house? Well, it's like an hour away from us. Yeah. There's, uh, yeah, it's not like right behind.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I mean, there's a, there's a forested area. We're just logging that happens about, well, it's like, warehouse used to be behind us back here and somebody else bought them out. But it's a big lumbered forest area that you can, in some spots you can only get in through a permit. There's some gates with, you know, you have to have a permit to get in. And this area is one of those. I'll just say it's near Lake.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's near Lake behind one of these permitted gates. And my mom and I went, went to the spot one time. And we were just researching. Oh, well, the thing is, we've camped in this spot before. and we've had an audio recorder in a tree next to our truck. We camped in a truck one time. And I had an audio recorder on this tree next to our truck. And during the night, something was throwing pebbles at our truck.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And you can hear a whoop. Yeah, you could hear a whoop too. Oh, my goodness. So that really got me excited. And there was another time, and I told this on Joe's show, but there's another time I camp there in the same truck, and I put a recorder out in these woods here near this lake, and about 3 o'clock in the morning, I woke up, and I said,
Starting point is 00:27:19 you know what, I just want to get the hell out of here. So I'm going to go out there, and I'm just going to get the recorder and come back, and we can go home. So I did that, and the thing is, I didn't have a flashlight on me or anything like that. I just had the moomite. So I just followed the moomite to the recorder into these woods,
Starting point is 00:27:38 And when I picked up the recorder, as soon as I picked up the recorder and turned around, it was a loud growl behind me. No way. It scared the hell on me. And I did not look behind me. I just stared right ahead and I walked all the way back to my truck, all the way back to my truck. And I got in my truck and my mom saw me. And the first thing she said was, you're as white as a ghost. And what I said was drive.
Starting point is 00:28:06 All I told her was drive. And we got the hell out of there. So that really freaked me out. And that helped, you know, that helped get some interest in this area. So that recording that you just played, she and I went up there during the daytime. And on her way out, I did a really loud whoop. And I was, let's see, where I was when I did the whoop, I was away from the lake, but close enough for the sound to carry across the lake.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Well, I couldn't hear from where I was. I can't hear anything coming from the lake. So that whoop response, there's two whip responses you hear in it. Those I couldn't hear. Those were on the recorder when I listened to them. So, and the wood knocks, the wood knocks sounds that you hear were made doing that. So those two whoop responses you hear, you know, after my initial,
Starting point is 00:29:06 whoop. and then you hear the Okay, got it, got it, got it. The two whoops was something in response to me, those two whoops there. And then like, so yeah, there's my initial whoop. And then you hear that whoop, whoop wasn't me. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And then I did the knocks. I did the three knocks. And then you hear one more whoop, which was kind of like a buildup. It goes, whoop. Yeah. You know what that less loop was like a buildup combo. whoop.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And that wasn't me or anybody. You first, then your knocks, then two whoop responses. No, it goes like this. It goes my first whoop, I go whoop. Yep. And something goes, whoop, whoop. And again, I didn't hear that in person. I didn't hear that.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Wow. And then, so that's the thing. I didn't hear a response. So I just said, well, maybe I'll do a wood knock. Maybe I'll get something. Okay. So after, so for me, for me, it was silence after I did my initial whoops. So I did three knocks.
Starting point is 00:30:14 And then that's when you hear that response again, the buildup response. It was, woo, who. Let's listen to it again. Go for you. Now that we have the story. Yeah. That's, that's fantastic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 What was your response when you heard that audio recorder and you heard the responses on there that you had it in real life? dude, it was total wow. Like, where the hell would this come from? Because I didn't hear that in person. And there was nobody else out there with us, man. It was just me and my mom. So it was shocking. Total shock.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Like, where do the hell of this come from? Because I couldn't hear it from where I was. So where I had the recorder place, I guess it was closer to wherever this thing was. So the recorder was able to pick that up. But I couldn't hear with my own ears. So maybe the recorder had a, It amplifies sound.
Starting point is 00:31:49 So maybe that's why you hear it better. But in person, man, I couldn't hear any of that. So that's why I did the whoop and then the knocks because I was thinking, well, if I'm not going to get a response with a whoop, maybe I'll try some knocks. It's so cool because it's like, yeah, they're similar, but the response one does ramp up. And it's like, oh, man, it's hard to describe, but it's very cool. Yeah. I heard something like that at the zoo in the given area, which is weird. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And that's the thing. Like, you know, that wasn't my whoop you heard the second time or third time because I, my whoops are like, who. But this thing, like, if you listen to it more like, it sounds more natural, like a more natural kind of a loop sound. You know, something that's different than me, especially like that ramp like you're talking about that third one when it goes, You know, I wasn't doing that. Wow. Yeah. That's awesome, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:52 That's legit. If I had heard that, I would have gotten, I would have gotten us. That would have been cool stuff. Let's go on to another one. And this is, this is the drumming one.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I'm really curious what this. I'll play it for you. So you remember. And then I'm just, curious what the story is behind this one. Okay. What's the story there? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I remember that one. This was at Rock Camp and me and some fellow researchers were at a campfire. And that's the thing, too. We like to make some noise at the campfire, try to hopefully bring them in. That's our way, you know, using drums and instruments and talking and laughing. We were hoping that will bring the Sasquatch in. and so what happened on that one night is I had the thing is I always have my recorders placed up on this hill behind camp either just a original just a digital recorder
Starting point is 00:34:09 or with a with a parabolic mic as well I got a parabolic mic a couple years ago so I've been using that more for this recording I think I had a task cam recorder for that and I just had that strapped to a tree and I had that pointed towards the mountain towards the woods And that's another thing, too. I place these recorders pretty far up on this hill into the woods. I try to put them away far away from camp, you know, as possible. But, you know, with the surrounding area around us, like, you know, any sound we make at the campfire is going to kind of echo around,
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Starting point is 00:37:22 But if you hear in the beginning of that recording, you'll hear like a female voice and like a real deep male voice closer to a recorder. And I don't think that was one of us making those sounds. You know, like that last sound where it goes, the real loud thing. Yeah. That wasn't us, man. You don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:37:45 No. Anything close to the recorder, in my opinion, is something that's close to the recorder, not us. Goodness. That's what I'm saying, like, when you hear those voices and the, like, those far off voices, like, It sounds like somebody's singing. I think that's one of us at the campfire.
Starting point is 00:37:59 But when you hear something closer to the recorder, like there's a female voice that's kind of that's close to recorder. And it's saying something that you can't even understand what she's saying, because it sounds like a different language. And then you hear like a male response to that, I believe, towards the end of it, that real deep, ro-ra-rah-rah sound. And again, it sounds like a language that doesn't sound English or anything to me. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I think they're conversing, if it's a lot of it. a Sasquatch, I think they're conversing with each other while watching us at the campfire. So yeah, you hear us singing and stuff, you know, drumming in the recording as well. But if you hear some real, you know, close voices, I think that's what could be Sasquatch, possibly. All right. Let's listen to that again then. That's some good context. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:39:04 That's weird. Yeah. Oh, man, that is weird. So did you hear that female kind of voice in the beginning? Yeah. And it sounds like a different. language though to it, right? It doesn't sound like any kind of English. It's kind of hard to explain, but it's a, it just sounds like it has some kind of odd native language to me.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And that response, you know, that was a real deep response when it goes about it. It's weird, man. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. So, yeah. Roughly how long ago is that? That might be from 2000. I don't know if it's dated. on there, but it might be from 2020. Okay. I've been, yeah, the past couple of years, I've been getting a lot of audio up on that hill every time we go there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:51 In fact, I even got some during Tate's expedition as well. I think I included those in your folders. But on the last night, we were there with Tate. Paul Graves is playing his guitar and singing. And then up on the hill there, you get a couple of response stuff. It happens. Like there's a, there's something that goes. and then you hear like a wood knock or like a whack sound.
Starting point is 00:40:16 The real funny thing about this stuff is that we don't really hear the, we don't hear the stuff at the campfire. This is all on the recordings. There's been a couple instances though, and I don't know if I can't remember if I included them in the files, but we had a friend at the campfire one time and he went, and then from the hill behind us, you can hear something mimic him twice.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And I actually heard that person. Yeah. Oh, man. And I can't remember if I, I can't remember if I have that in your audio recording. So I sent you. But yeah, that's. I don't remember that one. Or maybe I just didn't know what it was at the time.
Starting point is 00:40:54 It's all good. But that's one of the things we've heard at that campfire is, you know, like those kind responses. So again, I, again, if these are Sasquatch, I think they're juveniles coming in to watch us and messing with us. It's almost like you need, you need a way to do, like, like a live monitoring of the audio that's being captured in your camp at the same time that you're recording. I don't know if there's even a way to do that.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Like, that's cheap enough for, you know, for most Bigfooters, myself included. Yeah. I mean, I've thought about camping up on this hill, but I'm kind of afraid to. But at the same time, I kind of want to do it now just to see if something happens if I see anything. because I don't know. Tristan, you know if you don't, you're going to be regretting it for the rest of your life. When you're an old dude, you're going to be like, I should have done it, you know, like, dude, you should do it. That would be why.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Oh, man. I probably should. But again, like, is that going to deter them? I don't know. You know, maybe they feel comfortable on a hill. So if I go up there and actually stay up there, maybe they'll scare them off. So I don't know. Or they might feel threatened.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I mean, you never know. you try, right? Exactly, unless you try. And another thing I want to bring up is that there's been some forest fires up in Bumping Lake the past couple summers. Oh, really? And so I think that might have just disrupted some things.
Starting point is 00:42:22 So that's the other thing, too. Not every time you go there, you're going to get something. And so that, you know, I think everybody should know that is that don't always expect to get anything every time you go there. It's always like, it's, you know, it's like the, it's just luck, you know. And also real quick, that recording I sent you the 30-minute one, the one I ran out to show the chorus. That was a California camp a couple years ago. It was just me and my mom camping there.
Starting point is 00:42:53 And at 2 o'clock in the morning, these things started going off. And it woke me up. And unfortunately, your hearing is the best, the best, which he couldn't hear it in person. But I'll tell you, man, like the recording doesn't do it justice. It was so freaking loud. And it was coming from different directions too. It wasn't coming from one source. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:43:14 So I don't know what it was. I can't say for sure it was Sasquatch, but in my personal opinion, it's either Sasquatch or somebody making those sounds. I don't think it was any other animal out there. Because it sounds, you know, they sound like, it sound like some kind of vocal, like some kind of vocal track making those, you know. you know like a human way doing that so what
Starting point is 00:43:40 what Tristan is referring to is he was if most people are going to be aware of who Alex Petikoff is from Beyond the Trail he used to have a
Starting point is 00:43:53 interview YouTube series live stream and Tristan's been out two times correct two different shows
Starting point is 00:44:02 and you were able to play a lot, a lot, a lot of the audio on those shows. So after this one, head on over, I definitely recommend you head on over, listen to the two Tristan episodes on Alex for even more sounds. What I have next is when I saw these two sounds, I was excited to hear the story because I have a story that is very close to those sounds. myself as listeners will know, but I'll play them and then we'll get your story here. So go ahead.
Starting point is 00:44:50 So those are recorded at Rock Camp behind, again, up on this hill behind us. I just have these recorders out, man. They're just pointed towards the woods behind us up on this hill. And yeah, these zippers sounds. I've actually captured these in different spots as well. There's been a couple other spots I've been to that I've captured zippers. these zipper kind of sounds. And so I,
Starting point is 00:45:14 is it a Sasquatch? I don't know, but I've heard other people talk about these kind of sounds before as well. So how far away is your recorder from camp approximately? Um, see up on this. I mean, we're talking yards.
Starting point is 00:45:34 It's not like feet. We're talking yards up up on the scale. I'm not the best with distance, but I'm telling you, it's not that close. Like you, I walk up pretty far in there. I pointed it in the woods.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And I just let it run. And then you get these things that, you know, 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock in the morning, 3 o'clock in the morning going on. Oh, my goodness. On their own. And like I said, I've heard those zippers sounds. I've recorded those zippers sounds in other areas as well. So I think there's something going on with that, you know. Obviously, you're not.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Are you leaving unzipping your tent during those nights? No, but these aren't near the, those aren't, these aren't near their tent. So they wouldn't even capture those kind of sounds. Yeah, okay. So here's the weird thing. So I'm just going to give you this summary real quick, Tristan. Sure. So when I went on Outwood Tate in the Iowa episode of that documentary series,
Starting point is 00:46:30 we had my recorder about, I mean, it was far outside the campsite. It was not near the tent. And I didn't leave my tent at all that night. and at around 345, I get a sound recording of what sounds like a tent zipper. It sounded just like that. And I've been, I mean, I've heard similar stories, but like nothing as close as the story you just told me of that you're capturing these zipper sounds not even close to a tent outside of the camp. That's wild, man. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:47:08 No, these are far from my tent. So, you know, I figured it's just some kind of way of conversing with each other and, you know, some kind of communication that they do if it's them. And like I said, I've heard this in other areas too. I've captured it. I've captured that same exact sound in other areas. So it makes me think it could be Sasquatch. But again, you know, you can't see what's making it. So it makes you wonder.
Starting point is 00:47:36 But yeah, I'm glad. you brought that up because I didn't, you know, I didn't know about that. That's interesting. I've heard very many people tell me about, you know, that I've heard the same thing because I haven't really heard that before from other people. So it's interesting. It messed with me for quite a while, Tristan, until I heard in a few other interviews I did with random people how they've experienced a Sasquatch unzipping a food container at their camp and also a Sasquatch. unzipping a tent that a female was in out in the Pacific Northwest somewhere. But yours is different because it's obvious that it's making the sound because it's not close to camp, which kind of makes me interpret my story in a way too.
Starting point is 00:48:25 But it's just very interesting to think about. So thank you for that. Yeah, because, yeah, I've wondered the same thing because, you know, the more you listen to it and the more that I've listened to it in other areas, I'm starting to wonder, maybe it's just not a mimic of some kind. Maybe it's some kind of communication that they do amongst themselves. Definitely. I also have a record.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I don't think I put it in in the files. I apologize, but I also have a recording where there's a scene that comes out to a recorder and makes a really loud sound with its mouth. It sounds like it makes it with its mouth. And then you hear it start talking, you hear it start talking with something else. But it's just funny when you hear this weird, loud,
Starting point is 00:49:06 like whoosh sound it makes with its mouth. That is intense. So I don't know what that's all about. It's pretty loud too. I guess I should have put it in with the other files, but I just have so many that. It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. Listeners, you just have to imagine the most Bigfoot files you've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:49:28 It's a lot. Yeah. Well, and the thing is I've been recording since 2015. I've been going out there. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. I, that's why I have so many files. And that's the thing, too. Like, I recommend people record all the time as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Because even when you're around, like, you won't even know, even if you can't hear anything in person, that doesn't mean the audio recorder won't capture anything. That's true. I've been able to capture things on my audio recorders while I'm there in person, and I just never heard it. But you hear it on the recorder. So, you know, I can't explain it. Let's play some more sounds here. Let's see we got up next. Sure.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Again, that was at Rock Camp behind on this hill again, behind our camp. Wow. And again, we didn't hear that in person, but on the recorder, you can hear it. Oh, wow. But as you can tell, that was a weird language, right? That's weird, man. And then you hear the knock afterward. I've heard that many times.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You hear that many times where you hear like a vocal and then a woodnodont. or vice versa. So do you think, do you think it's a wood knock or or maybe even a rock clack? It's hard to tell. It could be a rock clack. Yeah. Let's listen again. It's a totally different language, man.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah. See, like, I wouldn't be able to make that sound like or come up with that sound. Well, my, who does? It sounds like a native kind of a language. That's weird. Wow. And that's the other thing, too. Like, you know, I think a lot of people have think that the Ron Morehead sounds
Starting point is 00:51:16 Is it going to be everywhere you record and that's not the, you know, like every language you record is going to be like Ron Moritz and that's not the case here. I think if we're dealing with the Sasquatch, maybe it's a different type of Sasquatch or, you know, a different tribe of them, that they're not all going to have the samurai chatter and things like that. Could be just a different tribe with a different kind of language. That's fascinating. Yeah. All right. Let's see what we got here. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt.
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Starting point is 00:54:46 And all of a sudden, that thing just popped off behind us, way in the woods, behind our camp, in the woods. But it was pretty damn close. And again, like that, it was even louder. That was even louder in person, But that thing just popped off right behind us, and then that was it. No other vocals or anything like that. I was for certain.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I was like, he's going to say that that was him. But no, that's a sound that you capture. And it sounds really close to your camp too. Yeah, it does. It sounds like it was right in the woods there, probably watching us. But that came from where California camp is more like a slope. It's like it kind of slopes up into another hill, but you can actually camp up on this hill as well. But where we were, where I was with this, the Bigford researcher,
Starting point is 00:55:32 we were at this campfire towards the entrance of the camp. And then this thing, whatever it was, came from the hill, you know, up behind us, behind our camp in the woods. And it was, like I said, it was very close and very loud. So whatever it was was right there. And it hasn't really, like even Alex mentioned on his show, its lung capacity is crazy. And it carries.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Like, that sound carries, too. So, no, that was, that was a me or anybody. everybody else was just the way that I'm interpreting it or does it almost sound like it has like a female tone to it yes
Starting point is 00:56:07 or maybe a juvenile maybe a female yeah that's a good point yeah it's just it's really weird I'm going to play it one more time well that would mess with me man there's no campers behind us there so I don't think of it
Starting point is 00:56:36 I personally don't think it was another camper You know, there is a road next to California camp, but there was no, as far as I remember, there's no campers around us at that point. And everybody else in our camp was asleep. It was just me and those other Bigfoot researcher were at the campfire. Nothing just popped off. And only did it once. No other vocals were heard that night. But that was it.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And he immediately said, that's a big foot as soon as he heard it. He said, that's a big foot. Absolutely. Yeah. That's funny. That really freaked me out that all hearing that person because, you know, you don't expect that. It just happens out of nowhere. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I saved what I feel is my favorite for last. If I had heard this, I would probably, I don't know what I would do. I would probably been like, pack the bags, because if we stick around here, we're just going to get taken out. But I'll play a little, because it's a long clip, but I'll play a few minutes of it here,
Starting point is 00:57:50 and then I'll have you talk about it. Okay. Okay. That went on for 30 minutes straight. Yeah, it's hard to explain, but that's the only clip that I almost had a feeling of, I don't know if dread is too over.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Like it just makes, it affects you when you hear it. And it's hard for me to explain. And I can't imagine hearing that in real life. Dude, it was, like I said, the,
Starting point is 00:59:14 the recorder doesn't do it justice. It was incredibly loud. Have you ever heard this a whole much recordings from the 70s before? There's some sounds in those recordings that are sound. sound very similar to that. The who are they with again?
Starting point is 00:59:34 I forget who there was, I forget who the woman's name was, but she was near a rock quarry and these were coming from a rock quarry in Snowholmish, Washington. Okay, I know I've heard the name, but I can't think of what they sound like, so I'm going to have to look that up later. Yeah, look that up
Starting point is 00:59:50 later, but there's some, what's called the whoopal, and immediately, as soon as I heard this in person, I said, wow, that sounds just like the Snohomish stuff. Now, I'm not saying that's a snow homage recording. I'm just saying whatever that is sounds similar to that, you know, the whoop owl. And like I said, when you hear that sound, it does sound like something dread, you know, something you had dreaded and run away from.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Like a male. You know, that's a, that's a male yelling, possibly a male, male Sasquatch. Do you think there were multiples in there or just one? Yeah, I threw out there whole. recording like you'll hear you know different types of voices like you know possible female voices maybe juvenile voices it's like a whole chorus of them and they were coming from different spots too it wasn't just one spot it was like different spots from around the whole area there wow and again this was at two o'clock in the morning and it went on for 30 minutes straight there was no
Starting point is 01:00:50 breaks in between basically so you know if it was a human doing this why the hell would they be doing that for 30 minutes and with that kind of lung capacity and with that many, you know, possibly many individuals as well. And, you know, I've never heard, I've never heard a vocal, you know, I've never heard anything like that before. Besides that loophole stuff in the beginning, I've never heard the rest of the core stuff before. So, again, if it was humans, why are they doing that 2 o'clock in the morning for 30 minutes? I mean, they didn't, they didn't even stop. You know, if there are people called last name, they didn't stop for a response.
Starting point is 01:01:26 They just kept, it just keeps going. which is that would be weird right yeah there's no yeah that's a good point um yeah the chorus stuff is weird because it's like i've heard other recordings that are similar to that from the pacific northwest like the chorus thing yeah but like yours is very unique as well and man so you you woke up at 2 a.m and you heard that live yeah well that first call you that that first thing woke me up because it's so freaking loud. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:00 When you hear that, you know, when you hear that thing, man, like that roar kind of sound like that wakes, that woke me up all my sleep. Oh my goodness. And unfortunately,
Starting point is 01:02:10 my mother, my mother couldn't hear that person. I can't, you know, that's why I have that, that's why I had that 60 minute version one that I played on Alex's show because I didn't want to have, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:18 me and my mom talking while you hear that stuff going on. So that's why I had the edited version, you know, of just the sounds. I didn't want my voice and her voice in it. And there's been some other Bigfoot researchers. I'll just say Dave Ellis has gotten sounds from there as well. That's kind of similar to that chorus sound.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Oh, he's recorded himself, you're saying? Yeah, he's recorded there before. And he's gotten some sounds from there. And in fact, some friends of mine who were there last year got something kind of similar to that in September. They recorded something kind of similar to that. a little bit weighs down from California. It was further away from California,
Starting point is 01:02:59 but California camp, but they recorded something kind of similar to that. Wow. But again, like 30 minutes, man. Why would anybody do that for 30 minutes? They would blow out their vocal cords. It was somebody singing something like that.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Absolutely. What time of year did that happen in? That was in July, July 2020, July 17th. So it was after, you know, obviously it was after 4th of July. So, you know, I obviously people, I mean, that's the thing too.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Like this, people, people do go to this lake and camp and stuff. I mean, there are people there around. But, you know, I don't know. I don't know if the Sasquatch are comfortable with that or not. I mean, why would something so elusive be making that sounds like that? That's what makes me wonder. That's so weird. Are they that comfortable to make those kind of sounds, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:54 And for that loud, you know, being that loud too. But maybe it's such a much that you're comfortable there. Yeah, I mean, we don't know. Have you had people analyze your sound especially that clip there, like people like David Ellis? Yeah, Dave, Dave Ellis and Chris Spencer, Monongda Hill have all looked at it. Oh, cool. You know, Dave Ellis and Chris Spencer say it's not, it's, wherever it is. comes from a living thing.
Starting point is 01:04:26 It's not, you know, it's not. Yeah, they think it's from a living subject. And I guess Monagahela agrees with that, but he made the, he made the comment. I wish the audio was closer to the subjects. But I do too, but, you know, I can help that. Right. Yeah, good point. But they did say they think it comes from a natural, you know, source.
Starting point is 01:04:54 It's not fabricated. And, and, you know, for the record, I'm not hoaxing anything here. Like, I'm just putting my recorder out there capturing sound. So I'm not hoaxing anything. Yeah, I mean, you're you're camping out and having a recorder doing some wood knocks, doing some sounds yourselves at times. That time. It's not all the time. You're just capturing the audio, you know.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I am. I'm just putting my recorders out there and letting them run, just like other researchers are doing. I'm doing nothing different really. Let's uh, I got a few questions for you about, uh, about recording audio and hopefully, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:35 people can, listeners can get some, you know, really solid advice from this. So when it comes to, let's say you have someone, they're going out in the field. Um, and it's their first time where they're going to try to record audio, right, of a big foot.
Starting point is 01:05:56 What are the absolute, like, what's the necessity, the must-know advice about recording audio out in the wild? Well, for one thing is I keep my audio recorders in plastic bags to keep from moisture and condensation. you know, like obviously it rains a lot here in the Pacific Northwest, so I try to keep them covered as much as I can. And I put them on bungee cords and I strap them in the trees and such and just let them run. And sometimes I'll put moss on them to try to hide them and maybe put some different smells on it.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Because here's the thing, like I mentioned earlier, I've had bears grab my recorders and chew them the bits or carry them off somewhere. Right. Now, you know, I've lost records based on that. So I actually try to hide them with moss and put some different sounds, you know, sense on them. So hopefully a bear won't sniff them out.
Starting point is 01:06:51 But I think a bear is going to, I think a bear is attracted to the batteries. I've heard that before that there's something. I've heard that as well. Yep. That there's something that they're attracted to. So just be aware of that, you know, if you put in a battery operated, operated device out there, like even game cameras. I think they've done that with game cameras as well.
Starting point is 01:07:11 So going back to the recorders, I mean, I just, what I like to do is, as I mentioned with Rock Camp, I like to put them around. say that you're at a campsite. I like to go around the campsite, but not too close to it, but just far enough to maybe where something can just watch you. And I like to put, you know, kind of put auto records in different spots. You know, like say one part of the hill and another part of the hill over here, kind of surrounding the campsite, but not too close to it.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Just in case you might get something coming in and watching you. I like to do that. And as far as me, you know, there's also times where I just go to, to a research area and I'll just leave a recorder out like on a stump, high up on a stump or on a, or on a hill or something like that, kind of high up. Because I think the Sasquatch like to be in high places. So they may come up and they may come up and down a hill, up and down a hill. So I try to keep them up high a little bit just in case, you know, they might, they might walk by it.
Starting point is 01:08:13 But, you know, I'm really doing nothing special with these recorders. I'm just putting them out on trees and such. and making sure they're covered. And, you know, I try to look for areas, you know, I try to look for spots where there's water, like a lake or something. Okay. And then maybe like there's a ridge you can walk up or something, you know, like a high hill or high spot where I think the Sasquatch might come up
Starting point is 01:08:36 and down that hill to the water or to get maybe some kind of food source, like a deer or something. That's how I think, you know, these guys are operating. So going back to, like camping, you know, like if you have a high spot behind you, the possibility of Sasquatch might be going up and down that hill, that mountain, to watch you. So, and that's another thing too.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I like the idea of bringing them in as opposed to going out after them. I think you might have more better luck and capture an audio that way if you bring them in. What if your camp was on the high spot? It's just a random thought. No, that's a good idea. Yeah. if you can find a spot where you can camp up high, maybe. But I think the Sasquatch, like that kind of cover idea.
Starting point is 01:09:24 You know, they kind of like the idea of being able to have some cover. Right. And maybe they kind of, they might, strategically, they might like to be up high to wash you. I'll just say, I'll just quickly talk about a quick thing that happened. I think I sent you the audio of this too. But in one of my research areas, maybe my mother put up a plot watcher in this little goalie. Like, it's kind of like a, just like a hill you can climb up that overlooks like a little gully.
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Starting point is 01:12:59 as if possible Sasquatch might have come in and watch us put up that plot watcher. And I have that, I put that in your files. I think it's called Bigfoot closer to the recorder. But you hear some voices talking to each other and it's not me or my mom. So I don't know what the heck
Starting point is 01:13:15 it is. Oh, wow. But that's the thing. I think, I think in some instances, the Sasquatch might be watching people put up game cameras and things like that. And they might be up, they might be up high too, you know, where you can't see them. So they might be in a strategic place watching you. But, you know, I'm not saying that's always the case, but I think in some cases maybe that's what's happening. And that's, maybe that's why people aren't getting things on their game cameras because they're being watched as well. Do you have a specific recorder model that you use? Yeah, let's see if I can get it out.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Well, kind of a mess, but I'll just show you one of the, I'll show you one of my new ones. This is a, yeah, this is, this is kind of expensive, but this is the kind of recorder that I use. It's like a, it's a Sony PCM recorder, PCMD10. This is one of my new recorders I've got and it has two microphones
Starting point is 01:14:31 on top and it's pretty hefty. But it will record, this will record for eight hours and like I said, what I do is I just put it in a bag and I just put these on, you know, put these on a tree or something to have them sticking out towards the forest away from camp
Starting point is 01:14:49 and I just have them record overnight. and yeah yeah that's a there you go it's a whole night do you have to uh when you're setting up a recorder for the first time to use for bigfoot uh audio recording do you want to make sure that you do any specific settings a certain way or um well that's the thing like i know there's some filter settings you know noise filter settings but i i actually don't even use those i just I use a I use Adobe audition for my audio Audio editing So I just use that
Starting point is 01:15:30 You know if I need to Bring down the noise on something But no honestly I really I just I just make sure I set the I set the parameters on this thing So it doesn't overpeak obviously you have to set them You know you have to set the speakers to a setting where it doesn't go into the red all the time To see that's where it you know that's where it peaks Gotcha
Starting point is 01:15:48 You get that real crappy audio Other than that, man, I just let it run. And, you know, I let it run on normal play, not on long play, because long play will give you really bad audio. Just let it run normally. And, yeah, in recorders like this, while we run for like eight hours because of the batteries, you know, it eats up batteries pretty quickly.
Starting point is 01:16:08 So there are other smaller recorders. I see, can I get one? Well, I'm not the most prepared showing you recorders. But anyway, well, you can cut this part out. But there's small recorders that I use. I'll actually record for at least a day or two, like 24 to 48 hours. Oh, wow. So I use those as well.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I don't always use these big guys. I like to use this big guy when I'm camping out, like a bumping lake, for example. But if I'm just going to a research area, I'll leave out these little small digital recorders and just leave them on trees for a few days or even a week or, you know, even a couple weeks. Even if they run out batteries, I'll just, you know, after a week or two, I'll just go back. can grab them and listen to whatever couple of nights that they're on there. That is interesting. But parabolic.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Oh, yeah, parabolic. But I got to say, though, like, definitely, if people are going to be doing audio recording, try to get a parabolic dish because, like, the voice quality is amazing on those things. And they'll pick up things even further away. And so I've had pretty decent success with it. So I recommend people try to get a satellite, a parabolic dish to use when audio recording. So you can use that with an audio record? Because when I've seen that used, it's for live monitoring, right?
Starting point is 01:17:37 But you can use it for recording, you're saying. Oh, yeah, yeah. You can strap a dish to a tree and you can have it plugged into one of these guys. Wow. And you just have a recording. Yep, that's what I've been doing. Oh, man. And with a task cam.
Starting point is 01:17:54 That's my other big recorder is called a task cam. Yeah, you can hook them up to these things and they'll record whatever's on the, you know, from the dish. That feed. How much longer do you think you're able to go out roughly with a parabolic attached to it? Well, that's a thing. The cord on the parabolic, at least the one that I have, doesn't go very far. so you have to keep these close together. What I usually do is I'll tie both these to a tree.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Like I'll have the parabolic dish facing out on one side of the tree, then I'll have this guy on the back of it. And I'll bunch of cord both of them together and have them, you know, have this recording. Sorry, I said that question not good at all. What I meant to say was, so let's imagine with a regular recorder, you're able to capture like a mile out of sound,
Starting point is 01:18:52 how much further out do you think you're able to capture if you've got a parabolic mic in the mix? Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm totally misheard or misinterpreted. Maybe, well, I don't know if these will record a mile out, maybe, but maybe double that. I'm not the best with distance, man, but maybe double that. Gotcha. Depending on especially how big the dishes, you know, how big of a dish you're working and how much sound it can funnel and pick up.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Gotcha. Very interesting. Like, there's, I've used this before. This is like a $40 one. You can get on Amazon. Oh, nice. You can actually, this is like for birds, but you can actually take this out and record with it as well. But the other dish that I have is bigger than this.
Starting point is 01:19:47 But this is just a little small example of something you can use. You just have to click in the trigger for it to record. But you can still hear it. It still captures pretty well. Pretty good audio. Are you of the mindset that you start recording right when you get to the campsite? Or when do you usually start your recording? Well, when I'm camping, I like to wait until it gets dark.
Starting point is 01:20:17 and I and a lot of times I even I even try to put them out as it's getting dark and I that's the thing I'll walk up the hill when it's dark out and I'll just put a recorder up there with a flashlight or something you know with a headlamp or a flashlight I'll just go up on the hill and put a recorder out even when it's dark but I believe we get I get I believe we get most activity during the night and as we're at the campfire so I like to put them out right you know right as we're going to the campfire for the night and I just let them run all night and then I go back in the morning and pick them up you know if I'm if if I'm camping there I just pick them up in the morning have you ever considered doing a long-term field
Starting point is 01:21:00 recording unit and I don't know if you'd be able to put it in the area out there I've talked to Chris Spencer about units like that before right yeah with Chris's unit there yeah I I would love that's something I'd love to try. I don't have one, but I would be interested in trying that out. But the other thing is, you know, going through audio is a heck of a process. It really is. You have to sit there and listen to hours and hours of audio. So that's why I kind of like, that's why I was some of my recordings I like to just go at night and then I can get through the night possibly.
Starting point is 01:21:37 And obviously, if you have a spectrogram or a graph, you can see these little spikes and hopefully you'll, you know, you can just zero in on that and go, oh, that could be a, possible sound. But that's the other 10, there's, there's been sounds that the audio, that the recorder picks up, but when you look at them on a spectrograph, they're really low. You know, they don't always show up as like big spikes or anything. You actually have to really listen for it, like little blips and things like that because they're not always going to be real loud. So that's another thing I want to bring up is that, you know, if you're looking at a spectrograph,
Starting point is 01:22:09 don't always look for the big waves because you've got to get stuff in between that or even down below where it gets kind of no you know where the noises too yet they'll really look for these little red these little orange bumps and things like that in between oh interesting there's there's some other sounds going on man it's not always like these big you know wavelengths so you know like with speech for example okay okay for like speech sounds you know as opposed to like howls and stuff you'll get like little blips of things or like the zipper sound that zipper sound that we were going through earlier. Those don't go like this.
Starting point is 01:22:45 They're like little little things on the spectrogram you can look for. Yeah, you could easily overlook that if you were just going by spectrogram. Yeah. Yeah. Or if you're not listening for it, you know, you're just going to, you might overlook it because you're not, you know, looking for the big, you know, the big wave points on there. So. Absolutely. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Tristan, this has been a very, very interesting discussion. And thank you for sharing your audio with MMO listeners. That was cool. Oh, yeah, man. Totally. Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, I recommend people just going out there and recording as much as they can if they're going to be researching.
Starting point is 01:23:27 That's all I can, I mean, that's all I'm doing. I'm nobody special doing this. I'm just playing my audio recordings out there. And hopefully it captures something, but you don't always do that, you know. You don't always get something on audio. Hopefully we'll be checking in with you in the future. Who knows? Who knows what will come out of bumping Lake next,
Starting point is 01:23:52 especially maybe even if you camp up on the hill. We'll see if that happens or not. But, you know, that would be a wild adventure. But or any last thoughts before we close out the night? well you know just in general like even what i mentioned in tate's documentary like you know when you go squatching you're not always got to get you're not you're not always got to have something happen you know it's not like what you see on the entertainment shows like expedition bigfoot or something for example right you're not always going to have something
Starting point is 01:24:25 happened to you so i just i just want people to understand that you know it's the reality is is that not a lot happens when you're going out there and you know i've had so many hours of recordings where i have nothing on them. So it's not like, it's not like every time I go out there, I get something, but hey, if you're in the right spot, yeah, sure, maybe you'll get something, but don't always expect to get, you know, audio or anything, or, you know, audio or other kinds of evidence every time you go out squashing it, because that's really, that's just the reality of it, in my opinion. And so I just want people to know that, you know, the reality of big footing is that not a lot happens. And sometimes you get lucky, you know, sometimes you get something, but it's not like
Starting point is 01:25:06 what you see on TV. Exactly. And if you do go out and you don't get anything, stick with it. Try again. Try again. And eventually you'll get lucky. How can people, is there any ways that people can keep up to date with what you're doing, Tristan, or contact you or anything like that?
Starting point is 01:25:32 Or is it saying where you kind of keep under the radar? Yeah. The thing is, like, I don't post my. stuff publicly. I mean, I'm happy to share them like on podcast like with you or, you know, anybody on it honestly. But yeah, I don't I have a YouTube page, but that's not dedicated to Sasquatch. That's okay more other stuff. But if people want to reach me, they can go on Facebook. I'm on Tristan Yolton. They can contact me there or message me there and I can talk to, I'll be happy to talk to them about anything. And, but yeah, I mean, you know, if I get anything,
Starting point is 01:26:05 no, I'll contact, you know, you or, you know, somebody else about it. And, you know, Oh, yeah, absolutely. I'd be happy to share them. I'm happy to share my stuff with anybody. I mean, there's nothing to hide. Cool. So, yeah. So there you have it.
Starting point is 01:26:21 It's one of those interviews where if you see the name Tristan Yolton pop up in a podcast, you know it's going to be something good. So make sure if it's not on Bigfoot Society and something else, listen to that one too. But Tristan, thank you so much for coming on. This has been a really fun and also learned a lot about audio recorders. Thank you. Well, thank you for having me.
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