Bigfoot Society - Called From the Woods | Idaho
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we've got the privilege of talking to individual Anne who I'd seen a comment
on a YouTube video and I had asked for her to reach out and she actually did end up reaching out
and it's leading to a very interesting conversation that's about to happen.
I've been waiting to talk to Ann for a little bit of time and I'm glad that the time is
finally here but Ann, how are we doing tonight?
Wonderful, the pleasure's mine. I'm glad that you called.
Absolutely. I mean, I think there's going to be a lot to this one.
But Anne, I'm going to go ahead and let you fill in the details about what you would like the audience to know about your background, if anything.
Okay. So the topic is Bigfoot, obviously, or things like that, high strangeness.
And so from a very early age, I'm about 53, but in the early 70s, I had my first experience.
I'm from the Pacific Northwest, and I have lived in other places.
Some of those events occurred in other places, too, and I can get into those if that's where we go.
I grew up on a farm, a conventional family, and, you know, a little bit of religion there,
and definite belief in God and, you know, our Savior and Jesus Christ, things like that.
But also there was a rift in the family.
divorced and then after that time, you know, there was, there was movement. So it's not, I don't want it to be portrayed that it always was conventional because you'll see that that my story takes me to different places too because I've had to scramble as a single mom myself and work and, you know, so I've had to travel a lot. So that's, that kind of leads into why there are situations that have happened and are occurred in different parts of the country. But leading back to, I think it was like 1974, my dad,
and his cousin, we were in, we were north of Spokane, Washington State. It was in Washington State,
that's northeast Washington. And we were in Spokane. I remember vividly at least seeing the thing.
My cousin, my second cousin, was babysitting because my dad and his cousin, his cousin was in law school.
and my mom and my dad were friends with, you know, they used to go do things together.
And so his oldest daughter would babysit us.
Well, there was four or five kids, and we were all about the same age.
I was, I think, the youngest, maybe.
There might have been one younger than me, but I was about four.
We were in the yard playing, making mud pies.
And we had a hose out there, I remember.
And it was on the South Hill in Spokane, but this is back before there was a lot of development.
And so there was more trees in the back behind and forested areas.
And so we were in the backyard plane and there was a big tree to my left.
And I was facing, say, north because the house was also to the west of me, which was on my left.
And then there was a big huge tree like a tamaract because, you know, Pacific Northwest is well known for those, even in backyards.
And then, you know, we had this big mud, you know, blog or whatever we were playing in.
And then the kids all ran in.
So they ran inside, and I just remember lagging behind because I wanted to still make mud pies.
I was having a grand old time.
And I didn't want to go in.
So I stayed out.
And that was always curious to me because it was like a point of separation that's talked about.
The kids went inside.
I was alone.
And I'm sitting there making these mud pies.
and I remember seeing something huge behind the tree.
It like slid up behind the tree.
And I just saw it like peripherally.
And then it leaned out and I remember seeing these huge eyes.
It was huge.
I mean, it must have been, I don't know,
because I was so young,
but it was very large and ominous.
And I remember experiencing its presence,
Like, it was formidable.
It was scary.
I was literally terrified.
And it didn't have a normal expression on its face.
Like, it wasn't friendly.
It wasn't, it, like, looked at me, like, very intense, intent.
And I just took off running into the house.
Well, I had to run past it.
But I did, like, you know, I curved around, you know, I swung wide.
and I got inside and I had wet my pants and I may have done more than that because I remember I got in trouble by the parents because they didn't have a change of clothes for me and it became about that.
Like I never got that part out to them that there had been, you know, not that I was very, you know, vocal at the age of four.
But I know that later on we had talked about it.
My family is well aware that it happened.
And my dad said, well, maybe it was teenagers or something, but he had his own experience when he was 10, 60 miles north of Spokane when he was hunting, because back then they used to hunt really young back in the 50s or 60s, whenever it was.
And so, you know, he's more open to these sorts of things than, you know, like maybe another parent or something.
But my entire family knew that I had experienced this thing because I'd talked about it off and on after that.
And then also after that, I experienced, like, right away, it was really weird.
I would go to bed and my bed would shake.
And then I would get these impressions.
Like, it was like, mind speak, but it was like in unison, there was more than one voice.
And it would be like, we are going to get you.
Just like this chanting sort of stuff.
It was so bizarre.
And I would go into my parents' bedroom.
I remember and tell them I'm having, I can't get rid of it.
Oh, it's your subconscious.
Oh, you know, it'll be okay.
It'll be okay.
And then at the age of eight, I was baptized.
And then I had just noticed that I had thought I grew out of it.
But looking back later, I realized that that was around the time that I never had those voices at night.
So it wasn't like a paranoid sort of schizoid sort of, you know, event or anything like that.
it wasn't like that sort of development because it would only happen at night. And it would only happen
when I was, you know, alone. So it's not like, you know, I was hearing these, these voices or something.
It's when I was alone at night in my bed and then the bed would shake. And my dreams were terrible.
I mean, it would be like, you know, I'd have dreams that big hairy creatures were coming after me and
and that, you know, I would freeze in the yard and would drag my legs to the house or had to protect
my little kittens or something and, you know, I would be putting up these cardboard walls because,
you know, the creatures would be coming through the walls. It was just always really night tears
and things like that. And then, like I said, when I got baptized, that sort of stuff went away.
The night tears, that sleep paralysis still came back off and on, but that mind-speak stuff all went
a way. And I truly do believe that we have power and that sort of thing. So that's kind of why I led
into the whole, you know, that there was a religious background there. And some people don't
believe that sort of thing, but just whatever your flavor is, whatever it is, that was mine.
And it worked. And it worked for me, at least that's my, that's how I feel about it. And then
later on, as time went on, some weird stuff happened.
Like there was another incident in Spokane, but it wasn't a, it wasn't a big foot.
I saw like, go ahead.
And before we get into that, and I know listeners are hating me right now, but we already
talked before, guys, that we're going to, there's going to be kind of campouts through this
conversation because I don't want to just skip over what you just shared and it was a lot that
you just shared right um maybe we could chat about that for for a little bit okay okay cool um
so that was back when you were four that you had your first visual um when you think of five
four five yeah okay and when you think of that time your memory that you have do you remember as it was this
big like ape type creature or it was a big like weird looking human type creature or is there
anything like that in your mind well and that's the confusion because i wasn't sure that it was like a
big foot at the time because it wasn't like a big hairy ape but it was if you could imagine
the outline of one you could still see its eyes and things like that it was still there and
tangible, but it was like, I was like, I don't know how to, the only other, I mean, I've seen one since,
and it's not, it's the same thing, but this was more like a, like a creature. I mean, it was more like,
it was more like,
so hard to explain.
I heard it explained one time
on another podcast
where this woman had come up through Wyoming
and she said that she saw one that was stretched
across the highway
and it smiled at her,
it had a big mouth, you know?
But she said it was like
a weird color like cream or something,
like that. I know that sounds weird, but that's what it was like. It wasn't your traditional,
you know, it was like, I don't remember so much like the hair or fur as I do that it was just
this huge head and face staring at me. And then I saw the body out of the corner of my eyes
slide up behind the tree, but it was huge.
and then when it came out the front part of the tree,
its eyes must have been, I mean,
they must have been as big as baseballs.
I felt like, I don't know, I was four or five, you know.
Yeah.
But big, huge mouth, huge mouth.
I was going to ask you about it.
So it was a,
was it kind of a drawn out mouth,
or do you remember any specifics about the mouth?
I think it smiled.
Okay.
Were you able to see teeth when it smiled?
No.
Uh-uh.
Interesting.
And do you remember any other details of the face, like any skin color?
I don't.
I don't.
What's got my memory kind of messed up is that I saw it crawl behind the tree up to the tree.
And when it did that, it was a weird thing.
It was a weird, not normal thing.
the way it kind of crept up, like it kind of glided up a little bit, but was on the ground,
but kind of, it was really weird.
And so the whole, that part of it and then it leaning out, the eyes were big, the mouth.
And it like looked at me like, um, I don't know why I didn't grab me.
Like that should have come next.
I was going to ask you, you know, because there's a point where you had to run past it,
but you made a wide.
curve, right?
Mm-hmm.
How did it react to it all when you did that run past?
I was flight or fight.
I had no, nothing.
As soon as, as I saw it was like I got that whatever adrenaline dump and was gone.
I mean, thank goodness, you know, at least it wasn't, you know, to freeze.
Yeah, it triggered me to shoot out of there.
And I don't, I just remember just being, it just had like so fast into the house.
Like it was, there's no way.
I was sticking around.
How soon after that did the hearing the voices and the dream start?
I would have to say right away.
I mean, because my memories go back to that point.
You know what I mean?
And not a lot of people remember past like four or five, right?
But I have memories back to three.
like when my mom brought home my little brother, who's three years younger than me, I remember
when she brought him home.
But I don't remember Mindspeak or anything like that.
And it wasn't like, Mindspeak, like, it really wasn't having a communication with me.
It was like somehow these voices, and there was numerous voices, were trying to scare me.
and they were chanting.
And it's just crazy.
It's nothing that I heard.
Like our house was, you know, no one else heard it.
Our house was very, my dad was very protective.
He's a Marine veteran.
You know, I mean, just, there's just no way that it was coming from anywhere else other than what was inside of me.
And maybe it was just me and my subconscious, but there was a correlation is all I'm saying.
I mean, it certainly, I tied it together.
And maybe it was a trauma response.
Maybe it was a trauma response.
And then maybe, you know, just being baptized after that made me feel secure and safe.
And, you know.
Yeah, absolutely.
The dreams that you would have were that you said the big hair creatures would be coming after you.
Yes.
Did they look the same as what you saw?
Sometimes they were represented as apes.
Sometimes they were represented as bears.
but I have actually had dreams of giants
before I had my most recent sighting.
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So I've had dreams that I was up on our property up north of Spokane and that there was a big flood.
And then they were like swinging down and like they weren't good.
But it was like some kind of natural disaster and they were coming around and they were formidable again, you know.
But they were at that point like Bigfoot.
Okay.
And this is a dream you had around the same time?
You said that was later in life?
No, later.
Wow.
They've just been ongoing.
Yeah.
Oh, you've had ongoing dreams like this.
Oh, yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
So the, the voices stopped after you got baptized, but the dreams did not.
Mm-mm.
No.
That's really interesting.
And that could just be my own fears, you know?
I don't know.
I mean, obviously, so.
Well, yeah.
that I just wanted to talk about that for a little bit.
Oh, actually, there are a few more.
So the house that this happened around, how close was your closest neighbor at that time?
Behind us, I'm not sure because we were up on the south.
Like right now, it's just, you know, it's all developed.
But I think it was just a regular neighborhood where there was forest in the back.
You know what I mean?
It came in through the back.
It came in through the back for sure.
for sure it did
because that's the
you know
way it traveled
so
but it was
still a populated area
you know
you didn't have to go
very far to go to the Bing Crosby
theater
or down the hill you know
but it was up high on the
south hill
a bit
but it was just way back then
it just wasn't as developed
you didn't have your nice
model homes that are up there now
behind there was just a lot of
open area
Do you think your parents believed you at all when you would tell them what happened?
Yeah, because my dad has had situations.
Like I said, when he was 10, he was hunting in a swamp on our property, and he said he could fill a presence in there, and it scared him.
And he left.
He was hunting a deer in there in the swamp.
It was a big area.
And I remember riding horses by there before I even knew about what happened to him.
but, you know, I rode horses when I was a kid, and I would always look at that tree line and think that Native Americans were in there watching me or something because we, Native Americans used to battle on those grounds, you know, but I don't think it was Native American spirits that were looking at me. I think it might have been something else, you know, I don't know.
Sure. So you said this same, same property?
It not is what I saw in Spokane.
This is a different property where just, you know, there's just a lot of high strangeness in Washington State in general and Idaho.
So, yeah.
Very interesting.
I mean, you're right.
It did start right off the bat for you, but you're free to definitely, let's continue with what happens next.
Yeah.
So, and I mean, I think that just.
just kind of opened me up to things, you know. I just think that I knew, it probably traumatized
me greatly more than anything. And I just, I just want to put that out there that, you know,
people that are running around looking for Bigfoot situations and things like that. They're unclean.
I don't believe they're clean spirit. They don't seem to, you know, experience, you know, joy or,
you know, love or, you know, whatever. I mean, I don't know. We don't get that close to them. But they
certainly do like to instill fear upon you and terror and they seem to have a little bit of jealousy
too but I'll get into that they seem to compete or have a little bit of ego and to me that's just
you know those are all those wrong emotions that you know that seems to be what they function on
and so I just don't think that they're I don't think they're um I don't think they're beneficial to
humans, I think we spend way too much time thinking about them, and I think people pursue them.
Right now, they're kind of a novelty. People make money off of it. But if you truly are
experiencing them, like how I experience them, and they play games, they manipulate, and I'll get
into that, but they can make you sick. Like, I've been sick. I have been sick for days after
being out in the woods with my dogs after having one of them call out my dog's name,
you know, or something like that. And I've been around them hearing the weird noises and stuff,
you know? Like, I'll get sick after that. And that's just not good. It's not good for you.
But so just moving on and I'll try not to, there's been some other weirdness that I've experienced,
but I'll try to move forward. When I moved to Oklahoma, I lived for a couple of years,
in Tulsa, the broken arrow.
And I would run to the, like, the come and go or the gas station in the morning to exercise.
And then I would run back.
And I would have to run through these fields.
And this one field had a hay, the round hay bails.
And it also had, like, a culvert area in there.
And then there was a golf course close to it.
But sometimes when I would come home, I would just know there, like, there was a dark thing that was standing by that haybell.
And I would never look straight at it.
You know, I kind of like knew not to do that.
From the time I was a little one and that happened, I knew not to look because I didn't want to know.
I didn't want to know what I was looking at.
And I would just go by.
But then there was some violent tree shaking that was going on in the mornings.
And so then I quit going at dark.
I'd wait until the light came out.
and so that there was more humans around.
Because one time I had gone around, I had routed around.
I wanted to extend how far I was running.
I was probably late 30s, early 40s, I guess, around the time.
And just trying to get more exercise.
So I extended my route.
And I've smelled the smell,
I got the formidable weirdness, weird feeling, you know, whatever it was.
I knew that the tree's shaking.
I hadn't invested.
Bigfoot wasn't quite.
what it is now. Right now there's kind of a hysteria on it, but it was more on the down low you didn't really talk about it.
But I knew that there was something like that, you know what I mean, just because I had experienced it early in life. And sometimes there's things that just aren't explainable.
And so I remember one time on my way back, I saw a print. It was a huge, huge bare footprint. And it was in the mud because that was a field that, that, that was a field that.
They had been, you know, obviously there was some Timothy hay or something they had planted in it.
Otherwise, it wouldn't have bails of hay in it.
But it had rained and there was this big, huge footprint.
And then I looked around and there was no other footprints.
And so me not knowing, like, how it goes.
I mean, I knew what I saw when I was little, but I didn't know that they can just have a print and then go away.
Like, you can see just one print and then there's no prints, no other prints, and that's what I saw.
I saw one print and then there was no other prints and so I discounted it because I thought, well, there's no other print. So that's not a big foot. So I'll check that off. And I mean, now hearing other people say, yeah, there was just one print. And then it's like it dissipated or went away. Now I would know like, oh, well, that was legitimately a footprint. I mean, that's legitimately a big foot. But I just kind of discounted it. I moved to North Idaho.
I had my families from North Idaho, Northeast Washington.
I moved to North Idaho and I started going on,
I'm in a community, it's a small community,
and we are just surrounded by mountains.
I mean, there's just hardly any flat land at all.
And I started going on the trail on my bike with my dog,
I have a German Shepherd, and started experiencing really strange stuff.
The tree, the violent tree shaking to where
couldn't just be something shaking the trees like every leaf is shaking. It was really weird.
In broad daylight. Just different stuff that I was experiencing. And then there's some real
weirdness to this area. But I'm going to go into my elk story. This happened in 2019.
In 2020, my family's well aware of it. My manager at work heard about it that morning.
The janitor that works where I worked had had a situation.
back when he was five behind one of our famous restaurants here along the river,
he had gone up to the chicken coop behind their house or behind the restaurant because they had a house up there
and they had a bear hanging that they had just gutted and killed.
And it was hanging in the tree and he said that he watched a big foot walk across the chicken.
It actually upright step over the chicken like wire.
because it had been out there investigating that bear hanging there.
And so, and this is a common theme, you know, you'll talk to people who hunt and they hang, they'll hang different stuff and then they'll get slaps on their, on their houses and things like that.
So, you know, it's kind of talked about amongst certain people that, and then, you know, maybe, maybe not others, I don't know.
But anyhow, so one morning, it was in 2019 or 2020, it was, it was.
It was December or January.
It was snowing out.
Well, actually, I got to go to the night before because this is going to explain how these things think.
They're very, very manipulative.
So I go out.
I've got my dog.
She loves these tennis pen tennis balls that are like greenish yellow that you buy
an Ace Hardware.
You open the can three come out, you know.
And then I have a ball launch.
And so I launched the ball down the hill because then she has to run up the hill.
and she gets more exercise out of it quicker.
So, you know, I kind of make her do more work, right?
So I'm doing the ball launching.
This is like, probably about 6 o'clock at night, maybe earlier.
I guess it would be dark, so it was earlier because it was that time of year.
So I don't know, it was the night before, but it wasn't dark out.
The herd had come in, the elk herd had come, they come across from the north.
they cross the highway and they come up and then they go up onto the southern mountains and so they're just
very it's very common to see them you know they'll they'll migrate over but they're they're just really
doing their like they're sticking together the cows and the calves so these were first year calves
and they were all following their moms and there's like different tiers levels of of ground that
they go on and they follow these little wildlife trails you know and you can watch it
where I'm at and I don't want to say where I'm at because I've been going there a long time and I don't want to
I just don't want to call it out. But anyways, so they cross over in front of me and I'm sitting there
throwing this launch in this ball with my dog and I'm yelling at her and not mean, but you know,
we're having a good time. And the cows turn with their antenna ears, you know, that you can tell
their face and, you know, they got their ears out there just kind of curious as to what
heck we're doing because that dog keeps running after the ball and running up the hill.
And it was kind of entertaining. Well, their babies, two of the babies start jumping around
and playing. I mean, it was almost like pitching Rudolph and reindeer games. It was so cute,
you know, because the dog was jumping around and excited. And so the little calves,
they were far away, but they could still see and I could see them. And they're jumping around.
I thought that is the most adorable thing ever, you know, because I,
I had incited like this joyful play in them or I hadn't.
My dog had, but, you know, us, we together had done that.
And so I thought, wow, what a memory.
So I posted on social media, you know, because it was so exciting for me.
I was like, oh, these calves were playing.
It was so cute, you know.
And just that they had responded like that.
And then the next morning I went out because I wanted, I had to go to work and I wanted to take her out because she was home all day long.
and I took her out early.
It was about 7 a.m.
And I hear this cow elk screaming.
And she's to my north.
Well, these cows last, the night before had been to my south because they had crossed up and over the road.
So this cow elk is just bellowing.
She's screaming her head off.
And they only do that if something's taken their baby.
Like she was, she wouldn't shut up.
It was super loud.
the other cows had crossed over, and they were doing it quickly.
So they weren't, like, casually walking.
So there was something down there, and I thought it might be a coyote or something, you know.
And I didn't know, but it was kind of disturbing because they had just been playing.
And I didn't know if it was one of those calves or not, you know,
not to get too attached or anything, but, you know, that would have been a bummer.
Anyway, so I'm sitting there and I'm watching,
I'm trying to see where the cow is screaming from, and I couldn't see it.
But then there's these two big hills, and then there's a bridge on a trail,
and this upright figure walks right across that bridge in between the two hills.
And this is pretty far away.
It's about maybe an eighth of a mile, maybe a quarter of a mile.
I can't really measure it.
I've shown my, like, kids and stuff and where it's at and on a map and stuff, but I can't really measure it.
But it's close enough to where I could see an upright figure walk across.
I couldn't distinguish if it was a man or not, but it was a really tall, upright thing.
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And in the back of my mind, I thought, where's the baby calf?
It wasn't holding it, so it was not a big foot.
I don't know why I thought that.
I don't even know why I thought it was a big foot.
Probably because she's screaming her head off and why would there be a human so close to her?
Because it was coming from that area.
And I was like, this is so weird.
This is so bizarre.
I didn't see clothes on it because it crossed over that so quickly.
but I couldn't get a gauge on, I don't know, like it was right beyond my, it wasn't close enough to me to where I could get a gauge and it went so quickly that I couldn't figure out what it was, but I knew that it was big.
And so I got in my car and with my dog and I drove down and through the field where you would have to see that person walking and it's for like half a mile.
and then half a mile the other way.
There's no way in the amount of time that I raced down there that that person could be gone within that period of time.
You would still see them walking into town or away from town.
Either way, right?
I was outside of town.
But you would have to see them on that trail because that trail goes for miles and it's open.
And so I went down there and I crept down to the bank.
At that point, I'm not thinking it's Bigfoot.
I'm thinking, I just need to see a guy.
I just need to see a person.
And I'm with my dog, and there's no one there.
And I go and I look for any footprints, there's nothing there.
There was nothing there.
It was snowing.
There was snow out.
So there should be print unless he had stopped and hid up somewhere.
I mean, you would see him.
I could see back down to the bridge that he was on, but there was no prints.
something weird was going on.
And so I went back up towards my car because I'm trying to take all this in.
Because, you know, when something like this happens, you're kind of, you got, you have cognitive dissonance.
You're like, okay, don't overthink this.
This is like, what is this?
Like, you know what I mean?
It's just, it was weird.
All of a sudden, I see this elk come running at me from two hills away.
She comes barreling towards me and then she disappears.
Well, that's because she went down, and then she came up the other hill closer to me,
and she's coming right at me.
And she gets to be about 50 feet away from me.
I can see the steam in her nostrils.
All we have is like some weeds between us, but they have no leaves on them.
So, like, they're basically just sticks.
I have nothing to protect myself.
And my dog's not chasing her, and I don't understand what's going on, right?
I don't understand, like, I don't want my dog to chase her, but I'm like going to get trampled.
And so then in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, is this a bull?
And then I'm like, wait, bulls don't lose their antlers until like April.
This is December, January, whatever it was.
It was winter.
And so I'm like, this is a cow.
And so she looks, she looks at me.
She just keeps staring at me, staring at me, trying to, like assess who.
who I was or what I was.
And then she looks back at my dog behind me.
And then she turns back and chases off to the south and just like she shoots over to the south,
not where she had come from, but where the other ones were going, she was probably going to
meet up with them or whatever.
And I'm just sitting there scratching my head like I almost died.
She almost trampled me and then I thought, why would she?
she trample me? Why was she after me? Why did she see an upright person walking and come after me?
What grabbed her baby? And I mean, this is all true. I would take a lie detector. I swear to you,
this is all true. This all happened and she was after me. But, and I saw an upright thing walk across
the bridge, but I never saw the cast. But I will say this, and I have video of this. Every year thereafter,
a cow will stand in that place right around there waiting for a baby.
Like, babies are getting taken.
Like, I don't know if there's coyotes and there's bear there too.
You know what I mean?
But it was a mother that her baby had gotten taken from her.
And now this is going to sound really weird.
But I went to work and I told my manager about it and he was like,
you got really lucky.
And I know what that sounds like.
I had to rescue a baby calf that was cut.
you know, because they hunt around here.
This is just kind of the way it is.
And he goes, you were really fortunate to see that, you know.
And he believed me, I think, but he was nice about it.
But other people at work that had seen things like this also came up with their stories,
like the one that I told you that they hung a bear and he had seen it.
You know what I mean?
So I'm not embarrassed to tell the story.
The freakiest part about it is, what's the point of it, right?
well the point of it that big foot had seen me the night before and had seen those babies celebrating
and i swear to you i just got this feeling as soon as all this went down that that big foot was
punishing me because i cared that's really interesting and that's the part you know
isn't that weird that is it's a very that's unlike anything i've ever heard to be honest
You're saying multiple other people have experienced similar things in the same area?
Well, not like that, but they've seen them.
You know, like they've seen them up closer.
But yes, they're, you know, and I mean, out where I am, after that, there was, I have pictures of it.
And I posted on Facebook because I wanted to know about some of the local hikers.
They go hiking everywhere.
wanted to see if they'd ever seen these bones.
They were laid out.
There was moose, elk, deer, all lined up, like, different ages of bones.
I have the pictures.
I mean, I have receipts for stuff.
Right.
When I experience stuff, I take pictures.
I have, like, a moose liver was left for me last year.
I called fishing game because it would have been a poaching incident.
It was in the summer.
They're like, we don't know.
Like, why just deliver?
You know what I mean?
it was left where my car park.
Just a random moose sliver?
Yes.
I don't get that.
Why?
You're telling me.
Holy man.
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a dumping.
It wasn't anything dumping.
My dogs, this sounds kind of silly, but my dog's balls disappear, the tennis balls,
and they'll pop up in the same place.
Like, just weird mind games, like really weird mind games.
And I was hiking one day, and I have the, I have the,
the text message, my roommate, I had taken her out like a couple days before to where I was hiking.
And this is around where this all went on, you know, with this cow elk.
And my, I took my dog.
I had a little, I have a little Shih Tzu and the German Shepherd at this time because I'd gotten the Shih Tzu.
My dad brought her to me as a rescue.
And anyway, so I'm hiking three days.
I took her hiking, the roommate.
And then three days later, I went hiking alone.
And I remember I took a picture of this thing.
And I said, was this there when we were hiking?
And she's like, yeah, that was there.
And then we went up this hill towards the mountain.
And I hear this.
I don't want to say my dog's name because people know me.
But it's a two-syllable name and it's very unique.
It's German.
And I hear that.
And then my dog did too.
And it was twice.
We hear this twice.
And it's in my roommate's voice.
And I'm like, gosh, she came out here.
I thought I was going to have privacy.
You know, I'm kind of being kind of like a brat about it, right?
Because I'm thinking, gosh, she followed me out here.
I thought she was going down by the river.
I wanted some time.
You know what I mean?
She knows my hike is pot.
And she's coming without, you know.
And so I texted her.
I said, are you here?
And she goes, no, I'm taking a shower.
I'm back at the house.
And I said, I just heard you yell.
And I have the text messages.
I said, I heard you yell my dog's name, you know, and I said her name.
And she goes, I believe you.
She goes, but I swear to you, he goes, I was down at the river.
Look, these are the pictures I took.
I'm here at the house right now.
She took a picture, you know.
And I was like, oh my gosh, my dog even heard it.
and perked up and was like we were confused as to what to do next we thought it was her her name was
Kristen i thought it was Kristen because it was in her voice and um there was nobody around
do you know what i mean yeah that's that's extremely strange and and very unsettling are there
a lot of like missing person cases in that area yeah okay and probably
We don't want to go into names for respect and also for privacy.
No, yeah.
Yeah, there's just high weirdness.
You know, there's some high weirdness.
And then other people who aren't connected to it or who don't, aren't sensitive to it, would say no.
You know, because they don't get out or they don't, you know.
I mean, it's just anywhere you go.
There is especially high weirdness here, I think, because of the mountains.
That would be the correlation.
I'd say there's more high weirdness here than the,
there was where I grew up, way more. I mean, this is like a mecca, but I think it's connected to the
elk. I don't think it's anything else other than the elk, and I have a theory. They really
want to manage animals. They really do. The Bigfoot, too. Yeah. They think they are in charge,
and, you know, I just believe that the man was given dominion over all the creatures. I think
they are competition, we're competition for that. And I don't even think they use the same parts of the
animal that we do. I mean, it's really not competition. I think it has to do with different degrees of
glory. I think it has something to do with things that are ancient, things that are beyond us,
that we don't know. I think it keeps our eyes on them when we chase after them or we focus on them.
We're glorifying them. And that's what they're looking for. I think that they know ways that we don't.
I don't think they're, you know, like necessarily all evil.
You'll hear about some saving some.
You know, that's fine and dandy.
Obviously, they're able to procreate, but I don't know that they,
some people say that they see them and they look like they've lived forever.
I don't know that they really can die.
I don't know.
And I don't know that they're all the way here either.
But I know that they have supernatural gifts and I know they've been around for a while.
And I know that, like, in the LDS or Mormon religion, and it's not talked about, but some of the apostles have seen them and talked about them, the early pioneers, they've written.
It's in, you know, history.
And so it's like, I mean, one occasion was like 1835, you know, and I don't really want to get too much into that because I'm not trying to say anything.
about that. I'm just saying that there's things that have been happening for a long time.
It's not just a recent thing, right?
Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's not just, you know, in the Mormon writings. I mean, there's
multiple accounts in that time period, the 1800s of, you know, wild man sightings all over
the country. It's incredible. I know. Yeah, it is. And, but,
I think that, I think that, I don't know, they just master things, but I feel protected.
Like, I know who I am.
I know I'm like a child of God.
I know that, you know what I mean?
I know where I come from.
I know I do have dominion over animals.
I'm not out, you know, bow hunting elk right now, like alone.
You know, I'm not, I'm not in fear, but I haven't camped for a long time.
you know, it does kind of keep me, I'm careful, and I have an underwater whistle that I blow.
When they do the tree knocks, I'll notice there's a correlation to when they flush out deer.
Like I heard a couple years, maybe it was the last year or the year before, I heard a tree knock when I pulled up to take my dogs out.
And it was one, two, and then three.
And then I thought, okay, started walking back to my car.
I was like, I'm not doing that.
Well, obviously, right?
And then I look up and this herd of deer got flushed out of the woods on the other side.
And then they started running back up into the woods and they got flushed out again.
And I'm like, are you kidding me?
So you're hearing tree knocks right outside your house?
No, this is just I went.
It's about three miles away.
Okay.
There's like, it's like two ridges over.
Wow.
Yeah, because I take my dog somewhere else.
to go running where we're not, because I'm in a neighborhood here.
I'm kind of by, I'm right outside a mountain.
I'm looking at a mountain right now, but there's some neighbors, you know what I mean?
So I don't have any situations around my house to speak of.
I know the neighbors said that she saw someone in the garbage that was really big with a big hood
that ran really flat, and I didn't ask any question.
But other than that, you know what I mean?
There's just, and I have chickens and stuff like that.
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So I don't even want,
you know,
I don't have any
issues with them
coming here.
I don't,
I don't have those issues
and I don't know,
you know,
I mean, I don't even want to really talk about it because I don't want to, I don't want to conjure anything up.
No, I get you.
You know, I get that feeling where it's like you want to be careful what you talk about.
The area where you heard the Trenox, do you ever hear any other strange sounds out there that don't belong?
Yes.
Okay.
So here's something else.
And this I can't put together.
So, and oh, I have video too.
where I started to record because I had to, and I came home and called my sister in Florida and said, oh my gosh, listen to this. She goes, I can hear it. So what happened was I went up on this hill and there's this activity area. I don't want to name it out too much, but there's this activity area, which is not very populated because it's not very popular. There's other activity areas. You know, people can go to. But anyhow, no one was out there. I took my dogs and I was ball launching. And my dog, sometimes she winds up, the German Shepherd. She gets excited.
over the balls like a coon hound wood over a raccoon or something. It just is ridiculous, right? But she gets
really excited. And so she starts doing that, you know, that sort of thing, but it's loud. So she was
doing that. And then until I release the ball and she can go run, because when she's running,
she can't scream anymore, right? So then she goes and runs. Well, she did that a couple times.
And right behind us in the woodline, and it wasn't very far away. It was maybe 20 feet into the woodline.
I heard this electronic
like a backup,
like a trailer,
you know what I mean?
Just a weird
out of this world.
It wasn't really a trailer backup.
It wasn't mechanical, but it kind of sounded like it,
but it was loud.
Okay.
And I thought, what is that?
And it would get loud and then dissipate
and then get loud and then dissipate.
And then I heard like little cries, you know?
Like I was tempted to go in and check on what it was, and I did not.
And instead, I turned on my phone and started recording.
And I do have some of those cries.
And you have that recorded.
So were they like baby cries or?
At first I thought it sounded like baby cries.
but then I thought maybe it was an animal, like a calf or something.
So I thought maybe it was an animal that was being asphyxiated.
And I thought, but gosh, why that timing?
Why did that weird electronic noise spark up when my dog was making that weird noise?
It's like it got attracted to it and then started doing its thing.
It was weird, really weird.
And I do have it on, I have a recording, and it has the little cries you can hear them.
I mean, it's not loud like being there, right?
But you can still hear it.
And toward the end, it kind of sounded like maybe it was a baby deer or a full-grown one.
But I went back in there.
I don't know why.
a few weeks later, there was a big elk bone just laying right out in the open where it shouldn't be.
And I took that like as a warning. You know what I mean? But there was no dead elk carcass or carry on inside or anything.
So another time I went out in the same area. I show up. It's in the afternoon. I get my dogs out.
And all of a sudden I hear that loud, beeping, like electronic, but it wasn't in the woodline.
It was down.
It was like, I don't know.
It was super loud, like, almost like an alarm, like, almost like, and this is going to sound a little bit crazy.
But you know that one thing that they show, like, they say that they see and it's like this tall thing that they call like radio head or something.
something like that.
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
That, it sounded like that.
Really?
I got into my car and left.
Yes.
Oh, man.
It was a electronic, loud alarm sound, and no one was around.
And I'm just like, this is nuts.
And there was a vibration.
You could feel a vibration.
But it was just, there was no reason for it,
because there's no alarms there.
there's nothing there when you're saying you feel a vibration can you so you were feeling it like
like it was affecting you or can you describe a little bit more what you mean by that so the noise
was loud but it resonated like a vibration okay so it felt you could feel a vibration
like like physically i don't remember physically putting my hand on anything and feeling
vibration, but you could feel that it was a vibration somehow. I don't know how to explain it,
just that it was a vibration. Did your emotional state change at all during that time?
I have, what happens when stuff like that happens is I do the flight. Yep. And so I get mad
and do the flight. Okay. And so when that happens, what I will say happens is I get sick,
but my emotions don't.
Like I don't want to go right then investigate
because I know that it's something probably bad,
something, you know what I mean?
And I know that it's a warning to me
just like I feel like any time I've dealt with this stuff,
even with that cow elk with the calf,
it's like always a warning.
And here's one more thing I have to tell you.
Okay.
So on that same trail,
right after that cow elk thing happened
my dogs and I will go down this trail
and this is where I found this old pickax
it was just awesome I still have it
but we go down this really steep trill
and there's no trees where we go
you have to go up the mountain up on top
because it's just covered with
like there's old mining stuff
you know like not stuff
but like the ground is
not, there's no trees.
Right.
Until you get up on top and then there's trees everywhere, galore, right?
So I went in one day and this tree that was about 10 foot, 12 foot tall was laying right there.
It had been ripped off and it probably had about, I don't know, 8 inch, 10 inch circumference.
Healthy tree.
Perfectly healthy.
I have pictures.
And I thought, what?
Broke that off and threw it here because you can't, I mean, you have to bring it there.
And why is it right here where I walk and why is it broke off?
It wasn't, you know, it wasn't axed or chainsawed.
You know what I mean?
It wasn't sod.
So it was ripped.
And the bark was broken around it.
It was a brand new tree.
so it's like something through it there like stay away from here you know what i mean it's right
right where we go we are always right there absolutely that that one area sounds uh extremely
weird i don't know how often i would go there by myself to be honest um no it's just some
really really weird stuff that you're experiencing in whatever this one area is and you said
that this this town has a lot of high strangeness in it so is there other stuff going on besides
bigfoot and if you don't want to get into it i totally respect that and we can move on there's a lot of
suicides okay got you and one was just in the woods so oh boy and it was a big deal so just a month ago
Yeah.
So it was a local pastor.
Oh, dear.
But I don't tie that to anything, I'm sure his family, you know.
So it was, but other than that, there's young, a lot of young suicides.
And I don't want to speak for anyone else because there was also an incident, which was weird.
And I think, I can't remember his name, but there was a podcast that was done on this kid that I know who his mom is,
but he just had called her and then, like, someone was pursuing him or something,
and then, you know, they found him up on a gulch, but nobody knows.
But then right before that, there was like two suicides, which were really odd type.
So, but, you know, that just sounds like it's more like humans.
you know, bad behavior.
Right.
Maybe if there was some sort of thing going on that wasn't,
there's just a lot of speculation as to whether they were or not, you know.
But I don't know, I don't know those situations or if there's anything to those.
And I just try to stay away from that because I think if you get caught up in that,
that's the type of spirit you don't want to be friendly with because, you know,
who needs to be depressed, right?
Yeah, and I get that.
Are there also a lot of like UFO sightings or things like that in the same area?
There's so many mountains.
You know, there's not a lot of, there's sky, but it's like, I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Okay.
I haven't, you know, had any, but I wouldn't be surprised, you know,
but I know that when there was an avalanche and there was a couple years ago and there was a doctor who died and then they had the helicopter go up and rescue.
Well, didn't rescue but, you know, got recovered the body.
And so there was a big thing that went around.
The coyotes are out, keep your dogs in.
They're going crazy.
They're going crazy.
And I was listening to them.
And those were not coyotes.
It was a feeble attempt to make coyote howls, but that was, I figured it was something else trying to sound like coyotes.
And they were angry over those helicopters, you know, because it was right when they were doing that stuff up there.
Was it because the sound of it was much louder?
What were the main things that tipped you off that it wasn't actually coyotes?
Well, I grew up around coyotes, so I can almost imitate a coyote, right?
Like, you can call them in.
So, but they didn't, it was louder and more, they carried on more, like, extended out the howl and it took different, like, tones.
I mean, it just didn't, it didn't sound like, it wasn't a coyote.
It was like trying to sound like a coyote.
trying to sound like a coyote, but it didn't.
There's no coyote that ever sounded like that.
I've never heard a coyote make those sounds.
At some point, they sounded similar to a coyote,
and then they would extend it out, and it would go too far,
and then it would change tone.
It's like, that's not a coyote.
Someone imitated a goat, but it's too loud to be a person.
Do you see what I mean?
Yeah.
It's hard to explain.
I did try to record it out my front window,
or my front door, because you could hear it,
but I couldn't capture it.
So, but I did capture those, those noises from the cries in the woodline.
And I just think that's really close to, to dogs and a person to be killing if it was a predator.
I mean, what are the chances it was killing something that was crying out like that, that close to me to where I could record it.
You know what I mean?
Right. Or even, you know, another way to look at it is, you know, places like,
Like southeast Alaska, they talk about how they hear cries in the woods.
And it's a way that, you know, the Harryman is trying to lure people into the woods because they're going to see if there's a baby in trouble.
And usually this is, there's like a, you know, there's a woman involved.
like they often know that if they use this type of baby cry,
they have a better chance of getting them lured into the woods.
So it's just that that kind of came to mind when I was hearing your story as well.
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That's good. That's good because my dreams from even before this happened are about me rescuing little kids or animals and trying to keep them safe. What is that about? And then I'm in the woods and these sounds come out and you would think that I would go and rescue them, but I don't because I don't trust. Because I saw one when I was, you know, young. And I know, I know that they're there. I mean, I don't know what they are.
I don't know how dangerous they are.
I think that they have like a,
I think there's stipulations to their existence.
I think that they're not supposed to mess with us.
I mean, that's, I really, truly believe that.
I believe there's various degrees of glory,
and I believe that, you know, we're here for a purpose.
They're there for another purpose.
and our worlds collide, but they're not supposed to mess with us.
But I do believe they are jealous of us.
And it's obviously not because we have wonderful skills,
because they outclass us 100% right.
But somehow they are always trying to prove
that they are in charge of the animals.
And I don't know what that's about.
It's a really interesting viewpoint.
I really haven't heard a lot on when I've been doing interviews
over the last few years.
So I'm kind of curious to ask you, how is it that you view these creatures?
Like how would you describe what a Bigfoot is then?
Anytime I hear anybody start to get into the whole,
oh, they could survive in the wild and, you know, this could be their forge for this and they could live there.
I just want to laugh because I know they're not here all the time.
They're not like that.
I'm not asking they can't be here.
They're not like a bear or organic.
They're not of this earth like we are.
They're like on a different, you know, they're in a different place.
And I'm not saying they don't manifest physically.
But I think they've, you know, I think we've heard enough about them, at least in folklore and also in literature and also in sightings, which isn't folklore, to where we know that they do things we don't know how to do.
but I don't think they're special. I think they want to be worshipped. And I think they want to,
worship could be anything. You know, we've got Bigfoot pictures and people focus on them and
make money off it. Statues in some towns, even. Yeah. It's very interesting to think about that way.
You think there could be maybe portals involved or? Yeah, whatever that is. There's people that know
so much more about that and I think I have an idea, but it seems like,
Every time I get into that or talk about it, I have like, I just, I go, it just, it doesn't sit well because I feel like, I feel like I'm too vulnerable.
I don't like it to affect my, I really, I really just like to live, you know, here and now.
Like, I find pleasure in things like how cute those elk were doing that.
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
I find pleasure in like, you know, taking care of my chickens and the cute stuff.
if they do my dogs, my grandkids, my, you know what I mean, there's just so much to enjoy in this world.
I really do enjoy things.
Absolutely.
But whenever I deal with that part of things, even from a really young age, I feel like they just put a lot of terror and worry and stress and just they make you worry.
I mean, I can't even go out hiking without hearing them call my dog's name.
You know what I mean?
Well, yeah, I can.
They don't call it every time.
but or a ball disappears and it's when you least expect it and then you get all these balls
where you've never been you go packing and there's all the balls in perfect shape and they're your balls
you've been missing them in fact when I was texting that roommate about hearing her call out my dog's name
I said oh and I lost two balls somehow too she's like oh no I mean just to just to you know
highlight how often this happens and it's like oh well maybe they go into the the high weeds
Maybe, you know, maybe the coyotes grab them and, you know, I mean, mob them around and put them together in one place.
I don't know.
You know, maybe homeless people that are coming into the woods now, you know, I mean, more and more.
Maybe they're doing, I don't know.
But I do know that there was a message to me with that elk, and there's been several messages to me.
And the more, the more experiences I have, it kind of turns different.
It becomes, it's become scarier because of those electronic sounds.
And if I didn't have my dogs with me, I just don't think, you know, my cell phone and stuff like that.
If I didn't have my dogs with me, I mean, I wouldn't probably go where I'm going.
stuff, but I just wouldn't feel as safe. And I also am kind of concerned about my dogs. I don't let
them out of my sight and we stay in open areas. I don't let them go into the wood like I used to.
We used to go into the brush and things. And then, you know, I was finding all those bones and
stuff. And then hearing those calls, it's, it's just, it's kind of creepy. It's kind of creepy
anyways, like, because sometimes where we go, you know, you'll find cachets where Mount
Lion have buried some bones and stuff too. You know what I mean? So you can, you kind of
get a little bit of creepiness there.
You know what I mean?
So there's creepiness anyhow, but...
Has something called your dog's name multiple times, or is it just the one time?
Thank God just that one time.
Okay.
That's still weird, though.
Man.
Isn't it?
It's super weird.
And my dog perked up its ears and looked.
I don't know if I would go back to that place, to be honest.
I mean, just talking personally, like, that would weird me out.
I know.
She almost turned and went that direction, but she didn't because she was with me.
But like there was a, like, isn't that weird?
It's super weird, yeah.
What's the most recent time that you've had a dream that included something to do with Bigfoot?
I don't know.
I mean, I've had some, I guess I had a bad dream.
a couple months ago, and I woke up and said, oh, my gosh.
I remember waking up going, what a horrible dream.
But it was more about just being concerned about babies and stuff and little am.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah.
No, I mean, it's very out of the ordinary, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just think that maybe that's my.
I think that they observe, obviously, they're called watchers, right?
And I think they can find your weakness and they pick up on it.
I don't believe that they can read your mind.
I think they're clever.
I think they are clairvoyant at reading your actions.
And so it seems like they can read your mind.
I believe that only God can read your mind.
I think that they can put things into your mind, though.
but I don't believe that they can read your mind.
And that's just my belief,
but I just think that they pick up on your weaknesses
and the things that you, you know,
if you're going out there enough,
and I mean, it's like almost every day
like I'm out there, you know what I mean?
So there's been a lot of, you know,
reading of me if that's what they're doing.
I mean, I'm probably,
just even talking about it.
I feel like we're,
it's like a sideline or a sidebar
conversation. It's like, I don't know how much, I don't know how much I want to give to it because
I don't think they're worth any of it. I know that, that, um, that they've existed for a long time.
I know there's a ramp up in their importance. I think that, um, they're dangerous. I think
they're unclean. I noticed that people, just an observation, people to get terrorized
physically by them, like in person, scared.
I think they read that situation as well.
I think they get entertained by other people and then mess with them.
You know, like that whole having bad dreams and things like that.
I know that in some of the accounts from one of the apostles for the LDS Church,
whatever it was that talked to him, the big hairy creature, whatever it was,
had said that he was there to destroy human souls.
And then he was miserable, that he was miserable and couldn't die.
You know, and I mean, of course, you know, there's folklore too.
So I believe there were accounts, but I don't know how they changed throughout time.
I'm just, you know, I'm real open to know that things change.
And some of the older accounts don't sound like the more recent accounts.
But I know that the Bigfoot sure hasn't evolved much.
I mean, you know, they're not, they're not,
they're not wearing sandals and they're not, you know, I mean, they kind of don't evolve at all.
They're timeless.
They kind of stay where they're at, whereas we evolve, you know, we change and we progress.
So there's something to that.
They are not equipped to evolve.
They have what they have.
And they come in and out of our realm.
And, you know, I mean, I guess.
guess if you don't go in the woods, you don't have to deal with them, but they're there, you know?
Makes you wonder where they're going back to after they come to our areas and then they go somewhere else.
Where is it they're going back to, you know?
Yeah, it does.
And also when people say that they've killed them, it makes you wonder how much of that is true.
And then what does that mean?
Like, if someone's killed one, what happens to their, do they have a soul?
and if they have a soul, do they get reborn again?
Because some people believe that they can't ever die.
Like, like, what have, who cares, right?
Like, all these things are so mystifying and so curious
that we could get stuck on them
and not have our focus somewhere else.
I just really believe that it's dangerous,
at least for someone like me,
who's been so imprinted.
And, you know, here's the problem.
anywhere I go, I can go, I mean, anywhere I go, I love the country, anywhere I go, you know, I guess when I was in North Dakota, I didn't feel like there was any, there was no trees, but one went through there. And one of the tribal members had had a heart attack when they had the sighting. It had gone on, if you look up, um,
I don't know.
Someone, I don't know if it was the Bigfoot, what's the group called that does the investigations?
BFR.
BFR.
Yeah, I think they did investigation, but I had also, because I lived there, my daughter works closely there.
And one of the elders had had a heart attack when they saw it.
But some of the ladies had seen it out on the ice, on the Sakakwia, Lake Sakakwai.
So, I mean, I just, you know, I mean, I hear about things and, you know, I like to investigate too.
There was a time when I was trying to put it together.
But since I've been here and had these things going on and I've kind of like put it together, I'm like, oh, I see what's going on.
It's trying to get me, the more you look and the more, you know, you hear about people seeking them out, no one ever gets anywhere with it.
it's like, you know, a treasure hunt kind of.
It's fruitless.
It's a treasure hunt that for most people goes on forever,
and hopefully it'll go somewhere in our lifetime.
But for a lot of people, it really doesn't.
It can become all consuming.
There's a few people that have said that.
Has there been any reports in your area
where they've been like particularly aggressive reports or just reports of more high strangeness?
So my, where I'm at, we don't really report things much.
I mean, obviously, you know, because we thought like somebody did call when like heard the neighbors and it's fireworks and you think, you know, I mean, there's just not a lot of, uh, we're just more to ourselves.
I mean, it's all over. I mean, if you go toward even more south and stuff, I mean,
it's pretty
you know
I mean
okay so for instance
even when I went to
physical therapy
the gal's like oh yeah
I see and I can't see the town
but there's several towns around
you know what I mean
but it's anyways
she goes
when I came into town
I saw one walking
and then we had the
owner of the place was like
yeah you know
blah blah blah blah
and then I'm talking
into another kid and he's like, yeah, we just had had a deer hanging and they were out on one of
the ravines. You know, I don't want to give away where I'm at, but I probably have already.
But anyhow, and the Bigfoot kept coming by and smack and, like I said, kept smacking their
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And there are vehicles and stuff because it was mad because they had this thing hanging out there.
You know what I mean?
But it had been hunting season.
Like they don't like.
Right.
You go your trophy.
They don't like you to hang it.
You're not hanging it to show.
but to them that's what it is. I mean, it's almost like they put those bones out and line them up.
Like they're the big, like, you know, trophy people. They're in control the animal. No, you're not.
And if you read the Bible, I mean, obviously, right? Genesis, it talks about, if you do tie it back to this mind, I'm not saying that they are Kane.
Okay? I'm just saying there's a certain theme, common theme. There's like this, they're of the same vein.
Something's there because Kane, the reason Kane killed Abel with a wrong.
You know how they like to throw all their rocks, right?
K, killed Abel with the rock was he was jealous of him.
The reason he was jealous of him, in the Bible it says that Abel was a farmer.
He was a shepherd type.
He was a husbandry of animals.
He was in charge of actual souls, animals.
And Kane was a dirt tiller.
He was a farmer, but he was not in charge of animals.
He wasn't, that was not his degree of global.
So when it came time to give the offering, and it's in the Bible, these are just my words, in scripture, it says that the Lord was not happy with Cain's sacrifice. He was happy with Abel's, and that's why Cain killed Abel. Abel was in charge of animals. Animals are of a higher spirit.
you know, they're more sentient than plants.
You know what I mean?
If you're going to give an offering, right?
So I just feel like it has to do with glory.
I'm not, I know that sounds really far out there,
but it's just, I'm not saying it's direct.
I'm just saying going on that same theme,
somehow it ties into their need to be in charge.
of animals and it's ridiculous you know that's interesting yeah that is i hear a lot of different
theories on the on the show and i would have to say that that is a very unique one it's it's
interesting to think about though i've talked to another guy from this area and okay there's some
weird stuff that goes on in up up where i think we might be talking but um
And this has been a really interesting chat about, I mean, I feel things are going to continue to happen in your area.
No, I know. And I do have to scale back. And I agree with you. Just so you know, I know that they're going to increase, right? I know. I know that they will. I mean, even though I pray when I go out there and stuff, the fact that I go out there almost feels like I'm returning to the warrant. You know what I mean? Like there's, it's our, it's our.
been ruined. So I've got to find a new place to go, but I have to go out of where I'm at,
out of the area, because it's all over. It's, there's like, you can go 20 miles and it's still
there around. I'm not kidding. It's just, there's just interactions with, with the creature
all over the place up there you're saying?
there is um there is yeah if you're out if you're out and you're disturbing um if you're in the way
just the common denominator is the elk just so you know so if you're not in where the deer are
or the elk you're probably better off do you know what i mean why do you think the common
denominator is the elk i don't know i don't know but it's it's definitely
they definitely key in on them.
I mean, the other guy I was talking to, there was elk involved.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, not so much the moose, but I think because the elk are like cows, like they migrate in herds.
You can control them better and like deer too, you know?
I just think that they just, they like get off on it.
They think that I know that sounds so crazy.
I mean, I just, I feel like it's crazy to even talk about it, but you got to understand.
I mean, I've gone driving, I took a vacation.
I went driving up the river and, you know, close to where that guy, not on purpose, because I live here, but close to where that guy had that big foot siding and out of the river bank come running two doze and like rammed into my front quarter panel or front fence.
under and this my side door and it's like they were being chased and I'm like when that that was
chased yeah I've been coyote yeah you know whatever but it's like I just feel like you know I mean
it just put me on such high alert and I never hit you know I didn't hit them they ran in and of course
they could have been running up there but I mean they were in such a hurry to get out of that
embankment and it's like I just feel like um I don't know I feel like I get messed with you know
little bit. Yeah, no. I mean, you've, you've had to, you're dealing with it your whole life for sure.
But, yeah, Anna, I'm glad we talk tonight and please keep me in the loop with if things continue to
happen with, you know, hearing weird sounds or just out of the ordinary things.
Yeah.
I'd be interested to know if it continues to happen. But yeah, I will let you know.
Thank you so much for coming on tonight.
Yeah, you bet. Thank you for.
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