Bigfoot Society - Central Tennessee under Siege by Sasquatch

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

Join host Jeremiah Byron on the latest episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast as he delves into the captivating world of Bigfoot encounters in Marshall County, Tennessee. This week, Jeremiah welcomes ...a special guest, Roger Williams, a seasoned outdoorsman with a lifetime of astonishing Bigfoot encounters to share.Prepare to be enthralled as Roger recounts his spine-chilling encounter with the elusive creature at the age of 14. From there, the suspense only grows as he takes us on a riveting journey through his numerous subsequent encounters, including a hair-raising encounter he and his son had while on a hunting trip.Roger's wealth of knowledge and personal experiences are so extensive that Jeremiah allows him to take the spotlight for over an hour, captivating listeners with his enthralling tales. From heart-pounding near misses to awe-inspiring sightings, Roger's stories will leave you on the edge of your seat, craving more.Don't miss this thrilling episode, brimming with captivating insights and firsthand accounts of Bigfoot Encounters in Marshall County, Tennessee. Tune in now to the Bigfoot Society Podcast as Jeremiah Byron uncovers the secrets of the mysterious creature alongside the remarkable Roger Williams! Resources: ROGER'S BIGFOOT CHANNEL!https://www.youtube.com/@Rdodger1971~Support Bigfoot Society with a one-time donation by sending us a coffee over at our Buy Me a Coffee page. We appreciate that cup of joe! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyIf you want even more exclusive content, become a Patreon member and gain access to extra audio, a Patron-only Discord and much more over at https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyDo you have a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast? Please head over to www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com and fill out the "Share your Bigfoot Encounter" form. Use as much detail as you can and please specify if you would prefer to remain anonymous or what specific name you would like used with your encounter if it is chosen to be shared.Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more. Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action!——Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR ——My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQy My Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below.(Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsociety

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Starting point is 00:02:07 And he got in the car, they got in the car, and left. All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking with a new friend Mr. Roger Williams today from town. Tennessee, how's it going today, sir? Going a whole lot better than the last couple of weeks. It's great to finally get to talk to you. Oh, for sure. I've been waiting for this for a while ever since we first connected, but I know you were under the weather,
Starting point is 00:02:48 but we're ready to go now. How are things down there in Tennessee's, Roger? Everything's going good. We've got, everything's blooming, so we all say we don't have allergies and we're all sneezing and coughing, but one of my favorite times of the year, though. We spend all day today outside and the older I get,
Starting point is 00:03:11 it takes me a little while to recover from that. I can't run with the kids as much anymore, but going pretty good. I can't complain. Good to hear, good to hear. Roger, let's get right into it. Let's start chatting about your encounters that you had over the last few years. and where does this all start out for you?
Starting point is 00:03:38 I'm learning things in reverse. I'm 52. I had some things happen, had a sighting when I was 14, had some things happened before that, but we didn't have any way of researching. If you go to the library back then, it was maybe one or two books
Starting point is 00:04:00 and it would have a lot in that's monster and UFOs and whatever. but I found that just like other people that had sightings, it never leaves you. You may get away from it for a little while, depending on what's going on in your life, but it never goes away. My sighting and stuff that's happened is not as dramatic as actually some of my friends that I've just found out recently, but we live in southern middle Tennessee. And there's actually a read system that runs in a circle from close to Alabama all way above Nashville. And what I found is there's been a pretty active bridge system for years.
Starting point is 00:04:56 But to get back to how this got started, I'll start when the Finding Bigfoot show was on. I had no idea that show was on. I was cooking for my son one day, and he was about 15. And I guess he was watching YouTube. And so how he played that, and I froze in my tracks. I got chills. I'm like, what are you listening to? And he said, oh, he started explaining.
Starting point is 00:05:35 That's moneymaker. It's a new show. It's the Ohio. Supposedly it's Bigfoot. And I was like, I've heard that a half a dozen times. And the difference is hearing it on speaker versus actually live. You hear this a lot. You feel it.
Starting point is 00:05:54 It goes through you. And I believe at that time, when the most activity was going on, there was a company that were strip mining for, phosphate behind our house and were I hunted and I believe it had it made this thing mad and it was mad that it's just its home with being torn up and that's just my because before it was other things but not the screaming and so I remember the first time I saw one and I don't know if there several. I've talked to people lately since I started sharing my story that are local that seem to be more than one in this area. I always hunted. I was young. We lived out in the country.
Starting point is 00:06:53 We didn't stay inside playing video games. It's just something you didn't do. We didn't have all that stuff. And so I would go out and check the fields for deer while I'll live I just love being outside. And one particular day, I stepped out in this field beside our house. And I hunted maybe 400 yards around the bend up there. And I had seen my dad, which he was 5'8. I'd seen him walk from that way a lot of times. So I'm looking, there's nothing in the field. And I'm just about to step away.
Starting point is 00:07:34 and I noticed movement to my left. I had misremembered thinking it was about 300 yards. My son and I went back a few weeks ago, and it's no more than 200. But something stepped out on two legs. And at first, the first thing I noticed, of course, was the size. But I had seen the Patty film. And I don't know if it was my youngest.
Starting point is 00:08:06 mind. That's what all, that's what Bigfoot looks like. That's what all of them look like or whatever. This one was more, it was more athletic. And I wasn't thinking Bigfoot at first.
Starting point is 00:08:16 But you have to understand the walkway up this hill I had done a lot of times and the grass was intertwined. They didn't bush hog it much. They didn't keep it clean. So it was actually the shortest distance
Starting point is 00:08:34 to get back to an alfalfa field. that I like to hunt, but I would go the long way because of that high grass and walking uphill at the same time. And so it turned its shoulders and looked my way. And I think it knew I was there because I had hunted those woods for years. I was 14. I'd been hunting those woods since I was eight. A lot of times going, just walking the creeks by myself and just doing kids stuff,
Starting point is 00:09:03 sometimes with my cousins or whatever. but I wasn't scared, I think, because of the distance. But I did notice that if you see someone 100 yards away, 200 yards away, you can see your hat, your skin, the neckline of your color of your clothes, the wrist tier, bootline. You know, it's a person. You know they're wearing blue jeans. You may not know who they are, but this thing was one color from where.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I was at, and it was the color of milk chocolate. It wasn't the dark color you hear people, and it wasn't red. It was in between. And so I knew I was seeing something strange. But when it started up the hill, they left no doubt because I knew how I had to walk up the hill and how my body, I had to maneuver my body to get over this grass, throwing my legs out to the side, up and over, and it was a struggle, leaning forward. this thing started up the hill had just a little bit of body lean with the back was more or less straight but just a little lean
Starting point is 00:10:17 and have you ever seen a walking horse throw its legs up and over that how they're doing the shows this was the motion of this this thing straight up and over over the grass no struggling and that it took to get from point A to point B where I would have taken three to five minutes, this was over in 20 to 30 seconds, which is a long time to get to see something, move. And so I didn't panic. And by the time it got to the top of the hill, my mind's just racing. Like, it wasn't the neighbor. It wasn't my dad.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And I told my dad about it, and he laughed. That's probably Buford, and Buford was almost 90 years old. And what I had seen had to be one of the best athletes in the world. Going back to that point, I've had people tell me when I described it that it was probably a teenager as far as Bigfoot goes, because it had wide shoulders, but it was slender at the waist. And I was used to send the paddy, the barrel shape. and so yeah that happened and I told my dad I said no I think I just saw I saw I saw
Starting point is 00:11:46 Bigfoot today and he laughed at all and so that was the start of holding it back and and I think a lot of people I have found out just recently in the past three months since I talked about this for the first time publicly I've had people come to me. Some of them don't care if people know their name and some of them have jobs that they're scared. They did they get out? And they have some amazing stories. One of my friends I went to school with in 2008, not far from here. I had the top off the Jeep, the doors off around midnight, him and his wife driving. And he said, this big footstep almost. into the Jeep and in the path of the Jeep and they almost hit. Well, Eric, he said he looks up and he can
Starting point is 00:12:43 see the Bigfoot flinch. Oh, no, I almost got hit. So he went to, and he's been researching this ever since. And he went to the landowner and he said, hey, I need to ask you a question. He said, okay, he said, have you ever seen anything strange around here? And the next word's out of his mouth is I've seen the big boy twice. And so I haven't got to go to that spot yet, but that's on my list. That is, that's incredible. Roger, the first encounter you shared, that's age 14. That's your age 14.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Do you mind if I ask a few questions about that? It's a really interesting encounter. So you saw walk up the hill through the grass in front of you, and then I just kept on walking, kept walking away then? Yeah, what it was, deer animals, let's just say animals, they don't want to be seen most of them. There was what I call a choke point up on top of the hill where there was a gate. And so when it stepped out of it.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I don't think it was expecting me to be there. And so we had a decision to make. And it took the shortest distance to get behind some trees, but also that gate never stayed shut. It was an old farm gate that vines had grown over. So it walked all the way up, and I barely could see it behind those trees and those thicket, that thicket. But I believe the direction it was going, that's what it did,
Starting point is 00:14:32 because the fence row to its left was honeysuckles grown up, vines, just took, it could of course went through if it wanted to, but it took the path of least resistance and the path that was farthest away from me. And yeah, it just walked to the, it was heading toward the back alfalfa field that where I had heard the screams later. And so with some other things that have happened, that had happened, I started putting things together. There was one day, in the South, we don't get a chance to hunt into snow much. And that's just, and there was a forecast of some snow on Saturday morning.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It was school year, and I was excited. I had all my stuff ready the night before I got up. And going by myself, I was probably, this was before the siding. So I'm going to say 12 to 13. And I know that sounds strange, but back then and the South, if you were safe, my dad, he trusted me to go do where I said I was going to go and do the right thing. eat a little breakfast, go outside. It's about now two to three inches of snow.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And it's coming down, big flakes. And I'm like, this is amazing. And I go my usual route, which is not too far from the sighting I had later, probably 15, 200 yards. And when I come out of this, it was a logging room, and it opened up into the field. and then the woods where my tree stand was at the time, they were so dark.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It was daylight, but it just had this ominous feel when I stepped out at the edge there. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand
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Starting point is 00:18:09 and I'm looking around and I'm like what is this so I tried to take a step forward with my right foot two or three times and I couldn't
Starting point is 00:18:17 and in my I'm like, this is crazy. Don't be a wimp. You've got a 30, 30. You're making this up in your head. I couldn't take another step forward. And my gut just was shaking. My stomach, my insides were just trembling.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And I've always listened to my instincts. And I was becoming scared. And something, I don't know why I did this. In my mind, I'm like, if you will let me. go. I will turn to my right. I will walk back home and I won't come back out today. And as soon as I had that thought, it's like I was let go. And the feeling went away, the everything went away. And I turned to my right. I did exactly what I said I was going to do. Walked in the house. My mom and dad, they knew I'd been excited to go. He was 15, 20 minutes later. What are you doing? And I'm like, I lied.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I didn't want to say anything. He was, oh, it's cold out there. I think I'm going to stay in today. And didn't say anything. I didn't tell anybody about that for a long time because I wasn't thinking, just that I was thinking I pumped out. So you don't tell on yourself for that. But now looking back on it, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And I don't know about, I've heard so many ideas on what Sasquots could be. you have the woo side, the natural side. And I've had a lady tell me that the Sasquots told her that there was a bear and they were protecting me. Going back to my teenage years, I had things happened that I couldn't explain that didn't, I didn't think much about it. but now there may have been more interactions than I knew because we didn't know about tree knocks. We didn't know about the tree breaks. We didn't know about the whistles.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You hear all this stuff and you're learning. You're a young hunter. Hey, something's whistling. It's a bird. It's whatever. But now when we hear something like that, you can tell the difference. Sometimes you can't.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And everything's not, I'm not one of those people. Everything's not a Bigfoot. If I get a new sound on video or whatever, I've got a friend that's former Game Warden, I go right to him, hey, what is this? Do you know what this is? And if he knows, he'll let me know. And then I'll go research that on YouTube, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Oh, yeah, that's what that is. I'm good to know. I've been lucky enough that I did, my Rick-Mud. One resource was my friend Don that he was a game warden for years around here. He'd had reports. And so when I don't remember how it came up, but I started telling him about this stuff. He encouraged me and he asked me questions and he didn't make me feel, I guess, bashful about it. Because I don't know how it was in all parts of the country, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:50 I heard somebody the other night say country people are like mountain people. You just don't talk about certain things. And that was the attitude. I heard they would say things like, you know, I need to be getting in before dark and all that. But I did understand, too. Some of that was trying to get the kids to this mind and come in.
Starting point is 00:22:13 People use that a lot. But so going back, I'm never, I don't think I'll ever be like some of the shows for entertainment, oh, that's a squatch or whatever. People that haven't been out in the woods, they want things to be a Sasquatch or whatever, and it's just not the case. But there have been other things that's happened. My mom and dad, my dad had shut me down pretty quick when I told him that story. and it was about no more than two years later.
Starting point is 00:22:54 They were out southern folks back in the day, not much population. They'd get out and they'd drink a beer or two, listen to music or whatever and just relax or whatever, any dirt roads, and never bothered anybody because the houses were so far in between. One night he got out to relieve himself and I think my mom might have too
Starting point is 00:23:21 and there was a bank. I think he was told it as about 12 foot high and then it had a four-foot fence and had the car running. The brake lights were, they were shining, the headlights were shining the other way. And he heard a tree snap,
Starting point is 00:23:38 a pretty good sapling. He'd been out in the woods his whole life. So immediately he knew it had to be something big. a horse could rub up against something or a cow or whatever. But he said it was different. It was just like a snap, like it was just popped over, just instant break. And the next thing that happened, he heard it take off running. And it sounded like it was on two legs.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Jumped the fence, landed in the road behind him. He didn't know how far back it was. It was too close, he said. And when it landed in the road, is he said it was boom and he felt it. And my dad was a matter of fact, you got to show me. I never saw him scared of anything. He said he screamed at my mom, get in the car now.
Starting point is 00:24:36 And he said, Roger, as it was running, it was uphill to them. As it was running, the footfall, when the foot hit the ground, it would kick rocks towards them. And he got in the car, they got in the car, and left. So this place is called Simmons Ridge Road. And I just recently asked, we were driving through during the day, and I saw some of the people that have been living there for years.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And now I'm not as self-conscious about it, so I'll throw it into a conversation, right? I'm like, hey, you're ever seen a big foot? And not all that, some of them will look at you like you're dumb. Every now that you get, the answer was no, but my brother said he saw one in the field back there. Right. So we drive up the road, and this is the road that my mom and dad had the experience on. So we see my wife's cousins.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I never met him before. She's supportive and she's heard some things. and she's starting to believe. I never had met her cousin before, and I just did the same thing. How did you ever seen a Bigfoot? And his demeanor changed. He said, no, but I think I've heard one a couple of times just over this ridge.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And she looks at me like, that's amazing. And we're talking about as a crow flies, not three miles from my first sighting, right? You've got all these ridges that interconnect and animals use those for quick getaways. They'll run a ridge and if something spooks them a deer, it'll take a let. They know where they're at. They know their getaway, avoid people and whatever, predators. So I think these rich systems, they're using them or that I don't know if they still are. because after the
Starting point is 00:26:41 after they tore the terrain up when I was 14 the screams and the activity slowed way down to almost I guess nothing because after the last few screams I heard and felt they were finishing up and you got to understand
Starting point is 00:27:03 we take it don't sound like much to somebody in Wyoming but here you take a couple thousand acres and clear it. You've taken away their travel or any animal, their travel where they can stay yet. It was pretty thick back there, and they turned them into just fields. But for the stories that I've heard talking to people, I think they didn't move too far. I think maybe north a little bit along the, there's a duck river with rocks and outcroppings. My wife's family,
Starting point is 00:27:45 They have about 130 acres up there. It's about 20 miles from here. And we've recently had active. So from 14 or 15, we moved to an area not far from Simmons Ridge, but I didn't have anything happen at that location. It was always in the back of my mind. There was only one instance that I heard a tree snap with my cousin. I had killed a deer.
Starting point is 00:28:20 We had to track it. It got dark on us. And there were no cows. There shouldn't have been anybody out there in the dark way out where we were. And I always thought it could have been a mountain line. But now going back and thinking of how it actually sounded, it would have had to have been a 200-pound something stepping on a green fall, tree fall. And now it makes more sense.
Starting point is 00:28:49 it was maybe a snap. But I don't know that. I'm not going to say that's what it was. But when all these years, didn't forget about it, but didn't, I didn't go looking for this to start with. So I wasn't, the only time I ever looked for tracks was when they did finish up the fields
Starting point is 00:29:11 and they had moved all the dirt out. And I'm like, you know what? This is where this thing walked up through here. and if it's something this big in the wood, it's going to leave track. So I did go when that was fresh. I think that's the only time I really looked for tracks, and I didn't find any. Okay, we fast forward. And probably three years ago, my son, he has some family in the south end,
Starting point is 00:29:38 even further south than here. And we're not, we're, we are 25 minutes from the Alabama border. So we're And I've heard a lot of stuff come out of North Alabama, Northeast, especially in the hills. He was, I hadn't hunted in years. And he was like, Dad, my uncle's going to let us hunt. And he said, you could come too.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I'm like, okay. And it was more or less, I went as just to have an experience with him. And I thought, look, I won't, I'll carry something. A rifle with me. I won't be hunting. I'll just be there and we'll, we'll carry walkies with us. And so we had to, it was two weeks before the season.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And I'm like, do you know anything about the place? He said, not really. I said, we need to go scout a little bit. And Bigfoot's the farthest thing from my mind. We go up there, we find the water sources, we find the food, we find the fences, the holes in the fences where they travel. And we're just having a big time walking. And we're not being that quiet because we're just scout. And we get to a particular point, and I see a tree about five and a half foot up.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And it's a hardwood. Because when whatever snapped it, it's splintered. And just like a high pressure snap. Being me, and I've always taught him to question and look for the answers, don't assume. So I'm looking around and I don't see anything that fell on it. I don't see anything. At that time, the top was still there. attached.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And I'm looking around, I'm like, you know what? I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, I've seen some of these shows that say this is a marker, could be, a marker, and don't go past it, whatever. Maybe it was Lester out than those guys. But I really, I wouldn't think in Bigfoot, but it was odd, very odd, and no reason for it. So I had my phone in my pocket, my shirt pocket. I stepped past this tree, and this all happened at the same time. So Siri, which I'm scared to say it, she might wake up here on my phone, triggered. And my voice is the only thing that is supposed to trigger that.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And Siri said, I don't quite understand. And I look down in my pocket and I grabbed the phone. as I'm grabbing the phone about the size of your double fist, a rock comes over the cedar up the hill, over the cedar thicket. They're not very high. And lands, I'm going to say 12 to 15 yards from us, bounces down, and I hear it to my right. My son's looking at it.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I hear it. I look up. I see the rock slowing down. But it was so much to take. again, all of a sudden, now I've got my son out here and we just had a rock thrown at us. And there's nobody out there. And something that throws a rock has to have a thumb or two. That's to have a hand.
Starting point is 00:33:11 So I didn't rack right away. What I was doing, I was thinking, what is our best action here? Because any wild animal, you don't want to run. you don't want to trigger a response to get attacked or whatever. So I'm thinking what's the best thing we need to do? My son, he's so funny. The first thing out of his mouth, he said, are we just going to ignore that we had a rock tossed at us? I'm like, no, Peyton, just calm down.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Just hold on. I'm trying to figure out what we need to do. I said, so here's what we need to do. We need to walk down the hill backwards, so we're facing whatever this is. and Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option
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Starting point is 00:35:25 Don't look up in there. Let's get away, and we'll talk about this. And so we went back to the truck, and we're like, what just happened? And so we started talking about the marker. I said, the tree. It was right there at the tree. And he said, what was that with Siri? I said, that's never happened before.
Starting point is 00:35:44 So my question, hearing people talk about infrasound and all this, could infrasound trigger Siri? Because I've had that feeling. I've seen people where they go with the line and they measure their infrasound and they're like, oh, do you feel anything and they're jittery and whatever. And so that's my first question was like,
Starting point is 00:36:10 neither one of us said a word. So that's not supposed to happen. Second of all, we got the marker, and then we got the rock toss. the shirry by itself wouldn't have been a big deal. The tree by itself wouldn't have been a big deal. But put together with the rock toss, it became very big deal. And it scared me because, but we didn't feel threatened, though.
Starting point is 00:36:36 That's what we talked about. We didn't feel threatened. We talked about should we go back? And we did. We went in before daylight. We had put him up a stand. in a few days after that, where I hunt is not 200 to 250 yards from that spot. Where he hunts is over the ridge.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It's not 150 yards. And like I said, we've never felt threatened there. And there have been times one morning I was there and the breeze was blowing. It was from up the hill. I don't know what direction actually that is. You pay attention to it as a hunter. Okay, we've got the breeze coming this way. I knew that Peyton was good and that I was good, anything up the hill.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And I'm sitting there. I've been sitting there for 45 minutes. It hasn't started breaking daylight yet, but it's getting close. So fresh air, nice morning. I'm close to the spring, a water source, and I'm actually sitting blind. on the ground, which I don't like doing that, but I was backed up into a bank with some trees and stuff. So I felt like I had that spot covered,
Starting point is 00:38:04 keep something from walking up on me. I get a whiff of the only thing I, it did smell like a wet dog, but it had an element, like death, decay, no, let's decay. Wet dog would decay, right? and I perked up, it's behind me, and that's where the wind was blowing. There's just a light breeze. Maybe three seconds, it was quick.
Starting point is 00:38:41 But here's the thing. You know, I've smelled dead animals, but if you do in the wind blowing to you, you're going to keep smelling it. Right? So I'm like, this thing is moving. Whatever this is, it's moving. and I got on Milwaukee, and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:39:00 Peyton, I'm not trying to scare you. We've got something coming in between us that stinks, like something I've never actually smelled before. And it's moving. I think it's coming to you. He never got a whiff of it, which is even more strange. And we have smelt this on more than one occasion,
Starting point is 00:39:24 and he's got a whiff of it a couple of times. But we've never felt. felt threatened. And he's had some strange things, some sounds. He was by himself one day, and I got a text. I'll check up on him quite a bit because it's in the middle of nowhere. And he's 25, so he can take stuff, but you just don't, it's not smart to hunt by yourself.
Starting point is 00:39:49 But as long as he checks up with me ever so often and let me know when you're leaving and all that, he said, Daddy, I just heard what sounded like a monkey. He said it was the buildup and then a kind of a yell. He said, it wasn't a scream. And it was the direction it came from was over the same direction as the marker and the rock throw, but even further over on the other side of the hill. And he said at first I thought it was a bull. He said, but on the beginning of it, but as it followed through with it,
Starting point is 00:40:30 he said it wasn't. And he, in a little bit of his background, he's always loved animals. If you have a question about an animal, I don't care if it's in Australia. He grew up watching Steve Irwin. The teachers loved him because they could ask him about this rare bird in Mexico. And he was, oh, yeah, that was his thing. So he's not inexperienced as far as things like that. And he's really level-headed.
Starting point is 00:40:59 The first thing we do is we question what could this be first? Always, and you'll find the answer a lot of time. That's why I'm saying. Not everything's the ask what. I really like the way he approaches things. But when he tells me something, I believe him. Because it's between us. There's no sensational it.
Starting point is 00:41:26 It's just, hey, Daddy, we might need to keep an eye on this or whatever. We've had strange things happen. and we've been there. We went back last year, and it was dry. That's the first thing. We knew it was dry in our county, but that's the first thing I noticed. The spring was almost nothing.
Starting point is 00:41:48 The ponds were dry. It had a totally different feel. The whole area did. We didn't hear anything. We didn't see anything. And we've been several times where we didn't. But last hunting season, after that, he's walking his ridge up to his tree.
Starting point is 00:42:05 stand and I go to my spot and we and we don't text each other because it lights up right I got a text so when I got a text I'm like oh and it's really a miracle that I actually got the text because of the signal like a signal back in there and the picture's coming through and it took a while and when it finally came through I don't know you may have seen the picture in one of the groups on Facebook but it's the thorn tree it's it really hard, really tough, no scuffs on it. It looked like something to take it like this and broke it down. And there was probably 15,200 of those on this ridge.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And it used to be a field and it's grown up now. And he saw it and he snapped a picture of it, got the flash. And he, like, W-T-H. What the hell is this? And so after our hunt's over with, he takes me up there. And that's the first thing we do. We look around it. We look, maybe see if a tractor maybe have done, had made that damage.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I didn't think so because of the way it was done. All of the thorns, some of the thorns are three inches long. All of those branches and thorns are intact. So if a truck runs over something like that, they're going to knock some of those off. If a bull rubs up against it, it's going to knock some of those off. everything was intact except that fork. And it was, and so have you ever, when we were kids, we'd have sat, we'd be out, we didn't have a lot of toys,
Starting point is 00:43:48 we'd be outside all the time. When you seven or eight years old, we would go and pick a sapling, climb up it a little bit, and it's not going to support your weight. So you would ride it down, right? Exactly. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. So when one of those breaks, I'll call it a soft break, it'll bend, it'll put pressure, you know, and it'll give, it'll give way, and it'll split, but it may split in a bunch of different places or whatever. And you can tell that the pressure was from up in the tree.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And then somebody wrote it down. Well, these, what's strange about these particular trees being a harder wood, and it looked like something just, snapped it right there at that point. If you take, let's say, I may have one here. I know this is crazy. I don't know if anybody can see this or whatever, but I got a number two pencil. If I take and break this thing like this,
Starting point is 00:44:46 it's bending, and it's going to break somewhere in here, but if I push pressure right there, I know where it's going to break. It's going to break right there. And that's a high-pressure break. So that's the difference in something that's a softer wood that,
Starting point is 00:45:00 so anyway, and I'm no expert. I just been in the wood. And, you know, it, and I'm always open to somebody educating me. I notice things like that. And if I can't explain it, I'll keep trying. But some of these I can't. Other, and I don't know if you've heard Mike Blueler. I haven't know.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Okay, he's, I help co-host with him on Red Creek Mafia on YouTube. And I heard his story on Cliff and Bobo. podcast coming home from work, right? And there were some things he said that made me realize, okay, one thing he was talking about was the size of the forearm. He had a really close encounter last in a while. But the size of the forearms and the fingers looked like bananas, the size of bananas. And I'm driving home and I'm like, if that's the case, then what I thought was a tough
Starting point is 00:46:06 tree break for something. something might not be as hard as what I thought. So I contacted him through email. And can I talk to you? Because this stuff started happening. I started, I started, there's podcast now, of course. And he was nice enough to answer back. And we hit it off.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And I just, I asked him all kind of questions. Like, what did this look like? What did that look like? And we've learned a lot of stuff in the last three months because of the guest that's come on. Because I told my story or one of my stories, I had a friend contact me on Messenger on Facebook and said, hey, Raj, you remember when my brother and I lives, Vrona, Caney Creek, whatever, I'm like, yeah. He said, we walked up on one. They were like 12.
Starting point is 00:47:11 He said, we walked up on one. And the farmer had said keep an eye out because something was stealing his calves. And so when they fished the creek down there, they would walk through and they heard some of the calves bawling and making noise. So they walked over there. And he's got his brother with him, younger brother, a couple years younger. And he said, my mind couldn't make sense of it at first. But it was a big foot. and he had a calf by the leg dragging it through a fence.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And when it saw us, he said, it looked irritated that we had seen him. And he let the calf go, walked off, and turned and looked at him and did a huff. You know, and he said, I saw his teeth. He said, close enough 20 yards. He saw his teeth. And he stepped over the four, four strand of bar bar, just stepped right over it and walked across this field. And I'm just, I'm floored.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I talked to him for two hours. I'm like, Kevin, how come, he said, I didn't know everybody was laughed at me. I'm glad you finally, you told your stories. I don't feel as crazy now, but I know what I saw and nobody ever tell me. Wow. And this was something that, he had a 30 second to a minute sighting and up close and personal. And that, see, I.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I'm not the bravest person in the world. So that 200-yard cushion that I had, even though I was probably wrong, I felt like I could get to the back door quicker than he could get me, which that's how kids think. But 20 yards, 15-20 yards, I don't know if I would make it through that heart while. But it just confirms.
Starting point is 00:49:01 There are people around this country that might listen to this. It's okay now. I don't know if these shows. the negative, if you say something about Bigfoot, I mean, I've got deodorant in the It's everywhere, yeah. Right, it's everywhere. I've got stuff. People give me, I told this story, and I thought, yeah, they're going to think I'm nuts.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Somebody went to Branson, Missouri, and brought me back this poster that's got a Sasquatch themed park there. I didn't know that. Yeah, exactly. And so now, but here's the problem. The problem now you run into, which is a little bit before, I didn't go looking for this. We do go out now and I've gotten a couple situations where I've slowed down a little bit, but there are people that want to have an experience so bad that every leaf, every twig break, ever the other night.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Yep. I know exactly what you're talking about, Roger, yeah. And you don't want to, I'm sitting there telling you, I saw a Bigfoot, so I can't. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it.
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Starting point is 00:51:50 Tell another person they didn't. Right. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to listen to you. Now, if you show me pictures and you've been faking some stuff, I'm not going to hurt your feelings, but I'm just going to go,
Starting point is 00:52:00 oh, yeah, that's cool. But if it's, if it looks legit, I'm going to pick your brain. Hey, can you take me? me out there. Yeah. So, but I think I can, my BS meter is pretty, pretty good. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah, now there's some will get past you, but that's okay. But I think some of them want an experience so bad. They'll, they'll see pictures, they'll find things, the paradox. But I can't say anything about that. I've got, I had a couple of things happened to me where my son, he's, what is this? And he circled it. And I'm like, oh, my God. And I've got a picture that I'll send you later.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I had a tree fall. We had a gifting spot. We tried this. We heard these other people. So we had some activity. We had some strange sounds, strange smells, the sounds for footfalls. Like it came off one of the large rocks and boom, like a, like a, 600 pound cow, but two feet.
Starting point is 00:53:10 A lot of strange things was happening at this one location, and we would go out there at night. I used to sit outside the truck. Now I sit inside the truck. I don't. But we went back one day, and we gifted. We put some fruit and stuff out there. My son and I, we were out there,
Starting point is 00:53:30 and I've got it on audio on the video, but it's hard. And I'm embarrassed because it scared me so bad. I said some very ugly words. It just came out and I'm like, I didn't even realize it didn't until we replayed it. And what happened, we went in, we found the spot where we'd had all the strange stuff, the smells and stuff at night. So we went in during the day and it's on some family land. And we had a bag of fruit and we had a rake with me to what I was going to do was put out some stuff and then rake all the leaves. up and clear in case something stepped in to get it, then I would maybe get a footpring or something
Starting point is 00:54:14 like that. And as soon as we walked in, not only did we hear stuff, but we could hear stuff before we heard stuff. Like, we heard it sounded like a log was thrown, like a log that had been down for a few months. A log was thrown, and it was thrown so hard. and there's these big rocks. It's close to that river I was talking about.
Starting point is 00:54:40 So a lot of the topsoils gone. And it sounded like it was thrown against one of those rocks, and it broke. And it didn't sound like it was green. It had been there a while. But the thing was, we were so close. We heard it pick it up. And pick up, like you pick up one in and drag it to you. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And you can hear me in the video. I'm like, wait, so before all these sounds, these big sounds, we could hear the other movement. And then we get the high-pressure tree snaps, just cracked. We're talking 50 to 60 yards through the woods and just out of sight. All this stuff that's happened here has just been out of sight. Trees been, I'm going to say, I hate to even say pushed over, but what are the odds of these trees falling?
Starting point is 00:55:31 And I had one, I've got it on video, where I went back by myself a couple of days. later to check the fruit. And this tree that had been broken and suspended there, it decided to fall while I was video on, fall the rest of the way. And that's where I get the, I hate to say this, the cloaking look figure in the picture. I didn't see it while I was there. So, but something, and my son, and everybody's looked at this video was like, it almost looked like it was pulled down, like being up over here and then this, this,
Starting point is 00:56:06 back in responded to it. So anyway, the day, the couple days before we had all this activity. We had a, it sounded like a maybe a 30-pound boulder tossed. Like I said, it's about 50 yards away.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And all this noise, it sounded like something was irritated that we were there. But the final thing, close to the final thing that scared me, was a series of sounds where I heard it, I heard something pick up something, like a tree that
Starting point is 00:56:44 had fallen or something. And then the best way I can explain it after listening to it 50 times is it sound like it picked it up. I heard that. And you know how some of the tennis players grunt when they hit the tenant or when they exert a lot of energy or I don't know if baseball players do it. it, but maybe somebody with an axe, they're putting everything they've got into it, and you hear that when I hear the, right as the tree or whatever it was hit another piece of wood and it broke,
Starting point is 00:57:22 there was a huff so loud and so big that I can just imagine the nostrils just being massive, and it was so deep, and that's when the cuss words come out, and I'm like, oh, we may be in trouble. And here I am thinking you eat it, you've got your son out here, and you know walked up in the middle of something, and you may not be able to get out of it. That's how big this thing sounded. What's interesting is, of course, the video doesn't do it justice as far as the volume. But everybody we've shown this video, they put the headphones in, and they listen to it.
Starting point is 00:57:59 So here's what we get. That sounds like a line. That sounds like a bear. That sounds like all these huge mammals, right? Southern Middle Tennessee. see. We don't have lines. I don't know if a bear can make that sound. They're talking, but when they hear it, they know it's something big. And it's not a horse. A horse, you hear a horse. You know what a horse sounds like, right?
Starting point is 00:58:21 This thing expelled so much air while it was exerting this pressure or this energy that I could almost see the nostrils in my, in, it had to be huge. And it had to be big to make the noises. And we had a final tree break, but what we did, it scared me. It scared me so bad that we didn't go back for a while. But I said in my head, oh, I told my son, you can see in the video. I said, okay, clear your mind. And I said, we're not here to hurt you. We're not here.
Starting point is 00:59:01 We're just curious and we don't want to be hurt either. We're just, I didn't know if that was the right thing, but I felt like it's something I need to do. and when I did it, I don't know if it's endorphins or what it was, but I've got this euphoric feeling. So I'm being cool and calm trying to be, and I said, Titan, what are you feeling right now? He said, the whole feel of the woods just changed. Now, I don't know if that's power suggestion. I don't know if that made us feel better. It could be.
Starting point is 00:59:34 But what we went through for 15 minutes and that ending on that, I knew. knew we would we tick something off. I knew it. I knew we, this thing's not good. And we took a break. He hadn't been back. He has not been back. He's not a small guy.
Starting point is 00:59:51 He can take care of himself. And he said, I'm not going back there. I did the next day, or I keep saying that, a couple days later, and that's when the tree was either pulled down and fell down. And I don't know. I can't explain a lot of this stuff. talking, it is good to talk to people and get their opinion to what it might be. You know, if you, when you get that gut feeling, something's wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:27 I'm 52 years old. I've done some stupid stuff. I've got scars. I broke bones. And just before that happened, you get this feeling like, oh, I did it again. Some of this is, we started having these interactions. interactions, and I think we got a little overzealous, and we're not, we're trying to figure out some things, and I just don't want to get hurt in the process. I don't want to get him hurt in the process or anybody. And there's so much, there's so much that's happened. My wife was with me one night at the same area. And over to our right, she's on the way I parked. The left side is where this area is, and she can hear and see. On this right side, it's dark, good and quiet.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And she said, what is that? What? And she said, up in that tree. And just across the drive, back in there, there's some trees and saplings, a few cedars, and there was a light. It wasn't like, it wasn't fluorescent. It wasn't LED or anything that bright. It was more of a.
Starting point is 01:01:44 like a moon, a moon, like when it's, not it's bright, it's not a full moon, just half or crescent, whatever. So I'm looking at it, and that's the first thing I think, what's the moon? She said, no, it's not, because it's over there. Okay, so we're looking, and it's not pulsating, it's not, but it does get gradually bigger. that's about the size of a just not quite the size of a tennis ball
Starting point is 01:02:16 when I first see it and it's not perfectly round either and we keep watching this one on for 15 or 20 minutes this is the same area I have people say that comes along with the Bigfoot and we watch it and I backed the truck up to get different views of it and I said how far you think that's up in the tree there
Starting point is 01:02:35 she said I don't know how to tell I said do you know how a basketball goal is She said, oh, yeah. I said, do you think that's in which it was? You think that's about the same height? She said, yeah, it is. I said, so it's not a person with a light. We're ruling that out.
Starting point is 01:02:55 It got bigger, and it was misshaping, and then it come back gradually at 20 minutes, and I would move forward and backward to get better looks at it, and it just faded out. We don't know what that was. It shouldn't be there. I went a few days later, going behind during the day and look to see if there's any trail cams, any light sources,
Starting point is 01:03:15 any place where something like that could be hung up there. And it's not. There was no place. There's no tracks. The leaves. There's no disturbances. So, no, it wasn't something somebody put up there is what I'm saying. And that in itself is just strange.
Starting point is 01:03:36 And then you pair it with this other activity that, we've had and we just don't know. We were out in, we've been married a little over three years. We've been together four, so she's, she's so good. When we first met, let's say, Skinwalker Ranch, some of the Bigfoot shows, some of the YouTube stuff, she, I'm like, she's going to think I'm crazy, but she didn't. We're in Duboy, Wyoming. Two years ago in April, this, this, Yeah, it was two years ago. And we go back, I think it was Tori Lake. We went to Cowboy Cafe.
Starting point is 01:04:22 We got something to eat. And we had enough time to go back in here. I had actually looked it up. It was a place you could drive back and just beautiful. Nobody back there. And I had a video going and I made the comment being stupid, just being extra country. I don't know if y'all know this or not boys, but this is a jetty country right here. And I was going to send it back to my buddy.
Starting point is 01:04:46 and show them just how it's hard to describe. How beautiful this was and how far back and the river and the, I expected to see a grizzly or mountain line any second and or whatever bears they have. We go to the back, we go nine miles back in, and we turn around, we got the windows now. We're coming back out and I'm barely going. We're looking at everything. We're in awe. And on her side of the truck,
Starting point is 01:05:15 there's an Ohio now it's not like it didn't have the volume that I had heard before and when you get in those mountains that mountain may look like it's a mile away it could be 10 so I actually thought it was somebody messing with us
Starting point is 01:05:41 but then when you think about it there were no vehicles it might have been a hiker right but she looked at me and she said she said, did you just hear that? Yeah, I actually did. What do you think it was? She said, all I know, I've been watching two many of those damn shows with you.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Where was this again, Roger? This was in Du Bois, Wyoming. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah. Wow. It was, I had talked to Don, my game warm friend. He's now, Roger, don't write it off because it could have been a smaller one and it could have been two miles away.
Starting point is 01:06:17 And I'm like, right. But like I said, my first instinct is to explain things away. And because it didn't have the volume that the one I had heard several times, I just thought maybe hopefully it was somebody, because this stuff scares me a little bit. I'm not going to be out in a tent. I talked to a guy, I got a new job. There was a guy, one was from Minnesota and the other guy, we're in training,
Starting point is 01:06:47 and the other one was from, California. And I didn't bring anything. I noticed one guy had a Sasquatch hat on. He was from Wisconsin. And the guy from California said, oh, you believe in Sasquatch? He said, oh, yeah, we found a track away in the snow one time
Starting point is 01:07:05 that was just unbelievable. And, of course, here I go, my head's turning. And this guy said, I had one walk into my camp one night, up close to the Sierra Nevada's. he started name in the plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago it's a safe effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states there's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it
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Starting point is 01:09:10 but I guess he had moonlight moonlight and maybe smells and sounds and all of his friends, he said, had experiences back in the day. So it's been a whirlwind, Jeremiah.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Once I told my story, the amount of stories that I have now, and I'm telling you, there are some people that I don't know, but there are some that I've known them all my life. and some of them haven't watched the TV shows or listen to the podcast. There's one, the one I said, I can't say a name. So he sends me a messenger after that first show I did. Thank you for explaining things the way you did because now what happened to me made sense, but I can't let it get out because of my job. I'm like, can you call me?
Starting point is 01:10:14 So we talked on the phone for a while. he said he was on his porch and this is not far from me this is actually close to some activity this has been going on for since the 70s this is the same area maybe 10 mile circle right he said he was out on his porch one night rural area his dog was out there out there he said he said he heard a scream
Starting point is 01:10:45 and it sounded like a mixture between a woman and an elephant it's the way he in his mind and he said his dog peed on the porch ran to the door and he was trying to get in the door and the dog was trying to get in the door and he said he almost peed the porch too and he
Starting point is 01:11:05 wondering what it was he said but he's the thing he said when you said you felt that scream I felt it too and he said and you and it made sense when you said it I said let me ask you some questions. I said, do you watch Bigfoot shows?
Starting point is 01:11:23 No. You listen to podcasts? No, I don't. He said, I don't know any of this stuff. I don't know. He said, but when you said this or that, it made sense. So I kept listening. Then he said, two weeks later, it was opening a gun season,
Starting point is 01:11:41 deer season here. And they've got a little money. and so they're where I might be in a tree stander in a fold-out seat Ozark Trail from Walmart they've got these nice houses with complex of glass and it's almost too nice and I know exactly the one he's talking about and he said he said I'll get my four-wheeler back there and hide it and then I'd walk across the field 45 minutes before daylight he said and this was two weeks after I heard that sound he said I go in
Starting point is 01:12:16 I get inside I lock the door a little flimsy door but it locked and he said there's a hickory tree and his dad I don't forget too much away
Starting point is 01:12:27 his dad taught me how to smoke meat and we did it the old way back in back then so they always had a lot of hickory cut and had huge smokers
Starting point is 01:12:39 and he said there's one hickory tree he said I always look at it get daylight and I was like I hope my daddy don't cut that down. That's such an awesome tree. He said, I'm sitting there. He said, it's about 30 minutes or so before daylight. And I hear some grunting and growling and hoofing.
Starting point is 01:12:59 And he said it sounded like something very large was upset. He said, it wasn't a bull. It wasn't a cow. It had this. He said, I just knew it wasn't. But he said it was massive. He said, and it was in the fence row, and it was close to the hickory trees near as I could tell. He said, so he was so scared that he took his chair and put it up against the door.
Starting point is 01:13:25 He said, what I figured was it was dark, and I didn't, he said, if it came in on me, whatever it was, I would feel the door moving, and then I could maybe get a shot off or whatever. He said, I was scared to death. He said, 15 minutes before daylight, he still hearing some of the noises, not it, not. as much, but it was maybe letting him know that it was still there. And then he heard a loud crash snap and didn't know what it was and heard another noise. And then after that, it went quiet. So it's getting close to daylight. It's getting close to sun.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Right. So he said he didn't know what to do. He said he was going to get to his four wheel as quick as possible, but he wanted to get all the way daylight. and he wanted to make sure whatever it wasn't in the area. And he said when it got where he could see, he said there's a branch, a big branch, about 10 foot up. He said it was broken, fresh snap, you know, how bright fresh wood is. And so his first instinct was like, I wonder when that happened.
Starting point is 01:14:39 And he had just walked from his, at an angle from his four-wheeler, to this thing through the field, and he looks over, he's a 20 yards out in the field, that branch is thrown out into the field. And he said, Roger, that was five years ago, and I haven't been hunting since, and I'm not going back. So how do you explain, once again, for something to break something like that, it has to have thumbs, and it has to be big. I feel like I'm just, I feel like I'm gushing here, but I've been inundated with stories
Starting point is 01:15:16 over the past three months maybe and it got to the point where it felt like I was filling up and I do want to listen and I will see you share with your podcast on Twitter or somewhere and I'll be like
Starting point is 01:15:33 I can listen to that I'm going to share it so I'll go back and listen to it but there was a point where even I had to take a break with Mike helping co-hoaks that show because there was so much information and I'm trying to filter through what could be real and what's not.
Starting point is 01:15:51 And I got full, I got, I got, just weighed down with it. And then I got sick and I got the rest. I got the, it's a bad way to get to rest, but I slept a lot. And after I got over that, I'm refreshed. And I think, I'll give some people of advice that's getting into this. go at a pace, go to your own pace, and don't try to get too much, because there are a lot of theories, and then there are a lot of people that are toward this side,
Starting point is 01:16:31 and they'll get upset if you disagree with them. And some of it is so unreal. But like I said, I'm on a podcast with Jeremiah, and I'm telling about this stuff. and I haven't talked about the ghost and the orbs and all this stuff that I'd seen in the past. And it makes me, that's why it makes me think that some of it may be tied together
Starting point is 01:16:54 and maybe some of us are, without trying more open to things happening. I don't know. Here's a theory I have. Now, the scientist guys, I get them. But there's some people, that you think about this. I don't know if in people that are listening, think about this.
Starting point is 01:17:24 There are people that mean no harm. If there is a big foot, they don't want it to be killed. They don't want it to harm. They just want to understand. A lot of those people seem to have experiences where you have, I know people that are mean and would shoot one in a heartbeat. And they hardly ever have any of those experiences. So if they can communicate or know your feelings or know your thoughts or whatever,
Starting point is 01:17:52 then they would stay away from that person, I would think. And those are the people like, oh, you're full of it. And virus all one. They tell it. They think they would anyway. But even Mike's encounter, he had the safety off, the crosshairs on his nose and was scared. And he said he was about to pull the trigger. and there was too much emotion and more human.
Starting point is 01:18:19 He said it turned his head sideways. You better don't do it. Don't do it. And he said, and it's Mike's former military. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN-YN recommended brand
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Starting point is 01:19:37 and that the 99% of the people of more of 50 you have the virus that causes the Culebrilla. Although not all the persons in risk will be developed, I see the eruption dolorous with ampollos during that even the tasks more simple
Starting point is 01:19:52 are all a lot of a retort. No, learn about the culebrilla of the way difficult. Talked on your doctor or pharmaceutical, patrocinoed for GSC. And he was scared. And he said, I felt like if I pulled that trigger,
Starting point is 01:20:07 I would personally be killing a human. And then, And he said, and I partially was scared that if I decided to pull the trigger, I might not make it out of the woods. So what he struggles with it, but he's a good guy. He's trying to, he's doing his show and he's trying to get people on so he can understand. And I think that's, I think that's where a lot of us come from is we have had experiences and we start digging. Like the guy in the Jeep, his son told me, he said, ever since that happened then, He's been everything he can watch, everything he can read.
Starting point is 01:20:45 He talks about it all the time. And it's not driving him crazy. It's just he wants to understand. You know, we have questions. Like, one of the main questions I have, it's not paranormal. It's not, it's like, how do they take in enough protein? Be a lot of critters in one area to support those guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:13 It's wild. Yeah. And so they almost have to be what omnivores? Exactly. And then you get some people talk about the woo part of it where their energy and they can come through portals and who knows. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:21:35 And you're smart in what you said earlier where it's like there's so much, excuse me, there's so much in this. field right now that you have to pace yourself and you it is okay to step away for a bit if you find yourself being overwhelmed that is a smart thing to do it's not smart when you're not aware that needs to be done but i do have a few questions for you that have come up while you've been talking the different the different situations you've had have you noticed that these have all taken place in one county for the Wyoming, yes, there's one that's close to another county, depending on what hill you're on. But yeah, the Marshall County, Tennessee, I'll go ahead and say it because
Starting point is 01:22:29 I've got five or six people right now that I'm in contact with. Oh, there's probably a dozen that's actually told me. But there's about a half a dozen that we communicate about about things that have happened in the past. And we talk about people that we've all known that things have happened to. And then you'll forget things. I have a very good friend. Oh, we used to hang around him. He's a little older than me.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Now, he's one of those macho guys. He's not going to say anything to make himself look bad or crazy. His dad has passed away. But he, I would believe anything to come out of. of his mouth, but just because the type of person he was. And he wasn't kin to me, but he gave me advice. He was just a no frills, country guy that had great listening skills. He would listen to you.
Starting point is 01:23:35 If he thought he needed to say something, he would. If he, he wouldn't butt into your business. And he was just a good man. And so when Matt told me the story, I was about 90% on it. But then when Eddie, his dad told me he heard all of it and he saw Mac running and he's never seen him that scared in his life. He was about 13 or 14. But what happened in that situation, Mac hunted the fence line up behind their house. And he had a single shot 20 gauge.
Starting point is 01:24:13 He hunted everything with it back then. And he would crawl up, he'd climb up in this hackberry tree and get out on this limb and sit there. And he said, he saw some movement coming along the woods line, which there was a little grass out there in the field. It wasn't a big field. And first thing he think was deer coming, turkey, something. And he said, and that's another thing. People, there's some people that can't get out. And I understand that.
Starting point is 01:24:43 And they want to know things. So this is why I put little tidbits in like this. People that have been out in the woods or been around farm animals or been around, been out, even a zookeeper or somebody that studies all that, they can see an animal from a long distance and tell you what it is. By the way it's moving. By its gait, by its bouncing, its smoothness. A cat, you know, back will bend certain ways.
Starting point is 01:25:11 The coyotes are prants a little bit. and they're lighter on their feet than a wolf. And it just, so you identify things pretty fast. He said the first thing he noticed was it was something about four and a half to five foot tall. And it was moving, but it was doing this. He said the head was side to side. And it was hunkered over and he, what is that? Because now this guy, he's been around all these animals.
Starting point is 01:25:42 and first he sees it, he don't know what it is. So he's trying to identify it's getting closer to him. But the wind is coming from behind, Mac, to a certain point up in the woods. This thing is coming around and hasn't got to that point where it can wind him yet. And it's focused on the edge of the woods. And he said, then he gets a good look at it as it gets closer. He said it was four and a half to five foot tall. He said it looked like a monkey.
Starting point is 01:26:09 He said the hair was clumped, greasyy and clumped. where in tufts where you could see skin under. And he said, that's when he got really scared. And so he got his gun up and ready, but he wasn't going to make a noise. He's just going to let it pass by. And that was his instinct just to stay still and let it go. He said, when it got, he said,
Starting point is 01:26:33 I knew the wind was behind me and I thought, oh, no. And he said, it got to that point, and it threw its nose up in the air, sniffed a few times and he said when it turned and looked it locked eyes with him and it showed his teeth and now back then i didn't know whether to ask if it had canines or whatever i'm just listening to the story so he said it snarled and it like it made it mad and it said came to him and it was making some noises i don't remember what noises he said it made but he said i'm thinking can i get down on this tree and get home before
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Starting point is 01:28:28 of more of 50 have the virus that causes the Culebrilla. Although not all the people in risk the developeran, I si la surrey. The eruption dolorous with ampollas duros semanas, making that even
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Starting point is 01:28:51 he said he felt bad about it but he was forced into it he thought he said he pulled the gun up and he put it
Starting point is 01:28:58 on the chest and squeezed the trigger and he heard it thump he said it it started rolling it grabbed its chest started screaming
Starting point is 01:29:06 and rolling he said it sounded like a monkey Now, it could have been. I don't know what it was, but he got down. He's running. Now, he's built like me. I'm a bigger guy.
Starting point is 01:29:16 One of us running? Don't ask you any questions. Try to beat us. So he's running, and he said he takes a single shot, puts one in it, and throws it over his back, and fires recklessly back that way, puts another one in it. Yeah. And so he gets to the fence.
Starting point is 01:29:38 trying to get his fat tail over the fence. And his daddy's, what is going on? He said, I just shot a monkey. And he said, you could hear it screaming. Eddie said, I could hear it screaming. It was just right behind the house. And he said, boy, let's get in the house. And they never went up there to see.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Now, that's not, as a crow flies, three miles from where I saw mine, but it was a lot bigger. And going back to that sighting, there was a limb. that came out, it came out over the field and drooped down and curved back up. This thing, when it stopped, it was under this, right? So I told my dad, I said, Daddy, it was almost as tall as that limb.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I said, it was about six or eight inches under that limb. Top of the head was, that couldn't have been Buford. He said, there's no way. You know how far up that is? I said, yeah, I do. I saw. We went up there with a tape measure, and whatever it was had to be a right. around seven and a half foot tall.
Starting point is 01:30:45 So we did get a measurement. And he was questioning, but he kept saying, there's no way. There's no way. And like I said, I'd seen him walk, and he was 5'8-ish. And I knew what he looked like up there. And this thing would have broke him in half. But anyway, I wished, gosh, I wish I had known, maybe I don't, but I wish I had to know what to look for.
Starting point is 01:31:15 I wish I had to have known like the other night. We had a quiet night. There wasn't a lot going on. We had some barred owls back and forth. And some people say sometimes they get mimicked by whatever. I have we can do calls like that with our mouths. And we'll sometimes when it gets quiet, we'll start and we'll get them active just to get something going on.
Starting point is 01:31:39 But then you'll hear some strange stuff like a bar. out of us on the ground. You know, it doesn't sound exactly like a bird, but I don't know. But there you go. You put all the things that happened together, and it makes a little more sense that it could be something like that. But so I did. I realized that I haven't done anything to get any responses.
Starting point is 01:32:05 And I said, hey, so let's go back. So we had frogs making their noise. we had whippoor wheel or whatever a bird. It was going nuts. We had some sounds going on. It just listening. And then it got quiet. Just, you know, it happened sometimes when a predator comes in.
Starting point is 01:32:31 It could have been coyotes, whatever, mount lines, whatever. It just get quiet. But I wasn't really thinking that. And like I said, I don't know what this was. But I'm like, you know what, this would be a good time to, I told my wife, I said, I'm going to do three clouts out the window. And let's listen. And her hearing, I have to be careful.
Starting point is 01:32:49 I can't mumble under my breath because she can hear birds breaking seeds in her bird feeder. And she's a good one to have with you if you need a warning. But so I did, I did three loud clouts and quit. I didn't hear anything. and she turned and she said, you just got to clap back over here. I said, wait a minute. Hand clap?
Starting point is 01:33:20 She said, yes. How many? It was just one. And I don't know. I do know that there's nobody out there. And if she tells me it was a hand clap, I'm going to go with her hearing. But after that happened,
Starting point is 01:33:43 there was some strange sounds that she couldn't identify. But it wasn't a lot. But we say that's not a lot because we've had so much happened at times that you just get a response back. I don't know what that could be. I don't know what could clap other than a person. But anyway, yeah, and there's so much more. I don't, I could go on. Roger, Marshall County is having some things go on.
Starting point is 01:34:13 That's for sure. Yeah. I do want to ask real quick, I keep coming back in my mind. It was a while back. We were talking about how your son was hunting, and he heard what he thought was a monkey sound in the woods. Have you guys ever been back to that area? Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:38 I've got a video. I've got that my YouTube page. It's not a whole lot on it. Oh, okay. Cool. It's not a, we took a, we didn't walkabout. Oh, wow. And it takes a while because of the ridges.
Starting point is 01:34:52 And, you know, I'm not an athlete, so we have to take time. And we went behind, this was just, I'm going to say this was two, two and a half months ago. Because after I had done, I had told my story and it just a couple weeks in, I thought it would be fun to get some video. and show people where we were at. So I said, here's what we want to do. I said, first of all, we're not going to be quiet because I don't want to slip up on anything. I want everything to know we're here. The second thing, I want to go behind that clump of cedar trees, where the rock came from,
Starting point is 01:35:34 to see how something could have gotten away or hid from us or where it could have been standing. And another thing, I said, where you heard, he said it was like a monkey gorilla. He said it was a classic buildup and whatever. So I said, we're going to go back on top of that ridge, and we're going to look over and see what's there. And he's got a, you know, I'm 52. I'm not totally out of the tech stuff. He draws him this app up.
Starting point is 01:36:12 It tells the exact where we're at, who owns what and where the houses are. I bet it's on X. And I'm like, I use that too. It is. It is. Yeah. How far something is.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Yeah. And who, and what's scary is, I believe it has the owner's phone number. It's pretty intense. Yeah. It's intense. Yeah, we did go back there and we looked off the ridge to where it could have been. And as far as we could see, you see a speck of white here, their houses just sparsely through this valley. and then another rage way over there and just nothing.
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Starting point is 01:38:16 learn about the Culebrilla of the way about your doctor or
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Starting point is 01:38:26 cedar trees I don't see how whatever it was it had to stay put I don't
Starting point is 01:38:36 see how with the terrain and the leaves and though I think it would
Starting point is 01:38:41 exposed itself and maybe that's why it threw a rock at us it was last resort
Starting point is 01:38:46 we were getting close If we had walked 15 more yard or 20 more yard, we might have seen something we might not want to. So maybe we pressured it to do that, to have that response without knowing. So it would have had a pretty long run up the hill
Starting point is 01:39:08 or anybody that was back there. So it didn't have an escape route. So that's what I was telling Peyton. I'm like, we may have pressured it into doing that. and then but once you get up on top of the ridge you can be in some of these hollows really fast you know you could get some distance between you if it was if it was a person especially like deer we know that we know how they do so it makes it just makes sense that any animal would use the ridges in the same way he still goes by himself sometimes it's just it worries me
Starting point is 01:39:50 even though I'm confident that he'll do the right thing and he's learning that you don't just shoot first we had that scary we had that scary thing happen and when I started, I said clear your mind, he actually set his rifle down. I didn't tell him to. He just, some reason, he set it down and did his hands like this.
Starting point is 01:40:23 and I guess we're so in tune. But anyway, he's heard some strange noises and stuff. But like I said, we talked about it and said, I said, have you ever felt threatened? He said, no. And Kevin, my buddy that saw the one trying to get the calf, he made a comment. It rung true.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Somebody asked him on the show, they're like, or did it keep you from going hunting? Did it keep you from going fishing? Did it scare you? did it. He said, he's more country than I am, if you can believe that. He said, the way I figured it, if he's there, what I saw is he's always been there and he's never bothered me before. And of course, he's saying he because we all think Bigfooter. And he said, so I don't let it bother me because if he wanted to get me, he could have
Starting point is 01:41:18 got me that day because I was right there. Sure. So, you know, and that's comforting. Now you get to talking to some of these people with the dog men and stuff like, then you get on a totally different. That is saddle up partners when you start in, yeah, I mean, you can go down, you can go far down the road,
Starting point is 01:41:36 Roger, you're aware of that. It's not just Bigfoot, but, ooh, but man, this has been a enjoyable chat. And you guys got some stuff going on down in Marshall County,
Starting point is 01:41:49 Tennessee. And I'm definitely going to be, keeping up to date with you. Roger, how can do you mind sharing a few, taking a few minutes to share how people can keep up to date with what you got going on? Also, if they're like, man, I've got something that happened in Marshall County, Tennessee. How can they get in touch with you? It sounds like they need to let you know.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Well, I set up an email like all of us do. Nice. Yep, yep. You want to keep it separate from your other, your business. Exactly. But it's squatching holler. That's without a G. And that's O-L-E-R.
Starting point is 01:42:30 And that's at g-mail.com. I wanted something to be memorable. And so squatching hollar could be anywhere. So, yeah, if you have anything, I'd be glad to listen. If you're in this area, even we're not far from Moore County, which is where Jack Daniels is. And there are ridges when you can get on these ridges and go forever. And people like David, is it David Crockett?
Starting point is 01:43:01 Yeah, David Crockett was just over not far from here where he lived on Bean Creek. And there's a lot of history in this area. And, you know, a lot of Native American mounds that people really don't know about. Yeah. One of our favorite pastimes when somebody would work the ground up for tobacco or whatever with kids, it would rain and we would go just fill our pockets with our heads, you know. And there's so much history in this area. And I just did not know that there was Bigfoot history.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Yeah. Like I said, I've probably, I could probably come up with a half a dozen more pretty cool stories, but I know we've been on a while. You could probably write a pretty good book too, Roger. Just saying, but hey, I'll just put that out there. but it has been fun chatting with you. I'm going to be keeping tabs on you, like I said, and I think we'll be chatting sometime in the future too,
Starting point is 01:44:01 maybe catching up with you. If I get any video or pictures or anything, that I can share it to the Facebook group, right? Oh, yeah, totally. Or you're a passenger or whatever. I've got anything. I will send you the, what people have said, the cloaking.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Now, it could be, it's freaky. because I've seen I just have to send it to you it blew my mind it blew my son's mind the game warden and I've had people who are on the woo side of it explaining what the energy
Starting point is 01:44:35 and all this stuff and how they supposedly cloak I just all I know is when I saw the picture the screenshot nobody had seen that yet and I'm going to say I freaked out
Starting point is 01:44:50 I just like I don't know what's going on here. But I'll send that to you. All right, yeah. I really appreciate, you know, because it helps. Anybody out there, if Jeremiah contacts you, you want you to tell your story, don't be bashful. We're all here. We're here for you.
Starting point is 01:45:07 It helps you feel better. And if you're in Marshall County, Tennessee or somewhere else, your friends might not even hear this. But help him out. share the podcast with everybody because you never know what kind of stories you're going to hear from your friends that they were scared to tell you that man that's great thank you roger i appreciate that and man keep doing good work and thank you so much for hanging out tonight roger oh it's been fun i'm just glad we finally got to do it but you i really appreciate it it does out.
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