Bigfoot Society - Ceremonial Encounters with Chiye-Tanka

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

In this episode, host Jeremiah Byron talks with William, a helper to a spiritual leader, about his numerous Bigfoot encounters experienced during Native American ceremonies. These encounters happened in various locations, such as near Eugene, Oregon; the Sierra Madre Mountains; a site near Sandy Hook; and the Mt. Washington area of Massachusetts. William shares chilling stories of encountering Bigfoot during ceremonies, hearing mysterious wood knocks, and seeing orbs and red eyes in the dark. These experiences reveal the complex and spiritual relationship between Native Americans and Bigfoot entities. Listen in to explore these profound and mysterious encounters.Sasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost.Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to [e-mail]. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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members-only episode every single week on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to William today. William is a helper to a spiritual leader. And he reached out to want to share some things that have happened at ceremonies over the year. So William, welcome to the show. Thank you, Jeremiah. It's a pleasure to be on. Absolutely. Should we also share right off the bat where these encounters are taking place as well? So we've had encounters outside of Eugene, Oregon.

We've had encounters up in the Sierra Madres, close to a place called North San Juan. And we've had places, we've had things happen to us out in New York, close to a place, a little town called Millerton. those are the ones that I'm comfortable with. I know Millerton actually very well. I grew up on the East Coast. That's very interesting. I'm going to let you go ahead and feel free to take us back to where we need to go and share with us what we can learn today.

Okay, okay. So my first readings, you know, I was born in 61, so I remember passing Gimlin film. And then as a young teenager was a little bit on the Helian side and was sent to a place for trouble of youth. Let's put it at that. And I was into Bigfoot and the book came up. I don't remember which. And we were in the Black Hills of South Dakota. I lived in South Dakota at that time.

And we were a firefighting crew and a logging crew. And we were all into all kinds of crazy stuff. and I started having dreams about Bigflit. And, you know, the boys started getting nervous because, you know, I was starting to see things and things were coming true. And that's another story. But anyways, we got through fire season, and me and a guy who were in this facility decided that one night we were going to escape.

I don't know where we were going because we were deep in the hills of South Dakota and the Black Hills. And we went out a side door and we started walking through the brush. And we were paralleling. paralleling a road that went up to the main highway. And as we were walking through there, we started hearing something shadowing us. And it's about the time the smell hit us.

And then we heard like a rumble. And, you know, we knew exactly what that was. And so we ran for the road and we turned ourselves in. And so I was 16 the first time that I really had an encounter. And so the years go by and, you know, we start to get older and we start learning things. And sometime in my, let's see, my early 30s, I started learning the ways of my people and I became a helper to a spiritual leader. And he started teaching me things and we started traveling and we started doing a lot of spiritual things.

And in 2009, he had a dream or a vision about doing this ceremony to help missing children. And it was going to be a two-day ceremony, and there was going to be fasting and dancing, ceremonial dancing. And we were going to pray for all the children that are missing. So in 2010, he was having this outside of Eugene, Oregon. And we had never been there before, and it was like a lot of things that happened when you're trying to do a ceremony. Things just fall together, and we found this property, and this man let us use it. And on the first night, something happened at late at night.

It was a scary thing that happened. I won't go into it. But something came that frightened us. And when we all gathered together underneath an awning, it was raining. And probably about an hour into us being there and starting to relax after the scary event, wood knocking started. And we didn't know about wood knocking them, but it started. And it probably went on once every 10, 15 minutes until dawn.

And we didn't know what it was. And now we do. And it was like something was sitting out there. And it was like knocking on the tree, letting us know that it's okay now. Don't be afraid. Because a lot of these places that when we do these things, they happen in places that are very remote, very remote, you know, away from the public so people can't come and spectate.

It's invitation only. So we're usually way out in the middle of nowhere. And so we had that happen, and the spiritual leader told us when the ceremony was over that it was Bigfoot. He used a different name. He uses a Lakota name saying Chi Tanka. I hear people on the podcast really try to say that word. It's Chi A Tonka. Now, Chia is your older brother.

you're a male. And Tonka is something that's big. So to his people, the Lakota people, his people, Cheatanka means my big, my big older brother. It's because of their relationship. And he told us that the Bigfoot had come around because in the medicine that he did leading that Bigfoot was a protector of children. And so, I mean, we had no reason to disagree. We didn't know. And that's what, you know, And we said, okay, and so we carried on and 11 and 12 happened. And then 12, we went to the East Coast to look at some property for maybe doing this children's dance again. And then Sandy Hook happened. And so we decided that we would have this children's dance in 2013 on this piece of property that was close to Sandy Hook.

And when we got ready, you know, we always have some time to get ready. a couple of the people that we had were sleeping out by where we were going to do this and they heard something and when they opened their tent they saw a big black big foot run across the circle that it didn't set up to have the ceremony and it really unnerved them you know and they right away came up to the house where everybody was getting ready because natives like to sit around and drink coffee and smoke cigarettes until the wee hours and so they came up and they told everybody and everyone when we went down and nothing happened, you know, it was a good thing, praying for those children. And we packed it up. And then in 14, we went to the reservation for ceremony. Now, on the reservation that he would take us to, when we would get there in middle June, there would always be the talk about who saw what. Where did you see the big foot?

Where did you see the Chiay Tanka? Where did you see? People had sightings. And one of the people who came to this place, we were at, brought a recording. And, you know, it was the first time I had ever heard that long, drawn out, like, scream, you know, that they make the, kind of like the Michigan, is it the Michigan tape? Like the Ohio, how? The Ohio, the Ohio, yes.

So we heard that, and we, we, we heard that, we got there late, right? So it was about eight or nine o'clock. We listened to that. And we went into Lodge, and I won't give it any more than that. We went into Lodge, and we didn't come out until about midnight, right? So we're coming out of Lodge, and all of a sudden you hear this scream, and it's children. It's more than one kid. It's two or three kids, and it's that screen that as a parent you hear, you know your kids in trouble.

And so we all come booking out of Lodge, you know, and these kids come screaming over, and their eyes were wide. And they said there was this little awning built. for a cook shack, a cooking year. So in events and ceremonies, when there's fasting, the kitchen is always a good ways away from wherever the ceremony is going to happen. So that the people who are participating, they're fasting, they don't have to see the food. They said there were something under there.

And so, of course, we went running over there and there was nothing there. But the kids were frightened, and they said it was a big foot and a small big foot. Maybe a mother and a child one, you know, but the awning was only about seven feet tall, and they said the bigger ones, head was no higher than the onyx. So I'm thinking, you know, under seven feet. And as we were looking around, you know, because the kids are frightened, the women folk, they're getting frightened,

and some of the men were frightened, right? Because this is the middle of nowhere, this is a ceremony where all kinds of things come around. And then we were looking around and we noticed this floating green orb. and it was only part of the size of a big marble. And it was just staying on the outside of where you could see it, and it was moving, and you almost could see a shape. But when you're like out on the res,

and it's no moon, no stars, it's black, right? And so this green orb was floating around us, and we watched it, and people got afraid. But like anything, it went on for so long. People went to bed. They really did. and it just stayed out of reach but when there was me and my daughter

and this big biker dude from New York we were sitting up and we saw it come and it floated down by us you know it's just this green orb about the size of a big marble and it stopped by this guy's car and we got up and we walked over and there it was

it wasn't a firefly it was a green orb now it's about the size of a golf ball and it's just like pulsing and the three of us are looking at it, you know, we're not afraid. It's just this thing. And then it took off across the meadow and this person had hung a buffalo skull up in the tree to get the meat,

let the critters come and get the meat off of it and the flesh off of it. And it zoomed over there and then it was gone. And we thought, wow, what's going on? And so, you know, we went to bed. The next morning I got up. And I went over by the cook shack to see what was going on. And then I jumped the creek. There was a creek there.

And I was walking around looking at about, oh, 40 yards from the cook shack was all the watermelon and cantaloupe rinds all laying on the ground. And somebody had eaten all of it, the missing food from the kitchen that we were going to have after we came on lodge. And so as I was watching, you know, looking around, I could see where something big had been moving because I grew up outside. but they weren't leaving tracks. But you could see where they had been moving.

And the spread on these strides was probably five, five and a half feet. And as I could see where it had moved, because I think there was two of them, and the little one wasn't as adept as the bigger one of keeping his or her steps. They came up to the other part of the creek, and you had to jump up across the creek, and it was higher elevation.

and right at our side of the creek where it was muddy, there was a print. But it looks like pitchfork. It was probably the center time from top to bottom was probably 18 inches, 20 inches. And then it had two sides that came out. So it looked like a three-time, probably more like a potato fork. But that was the print. And I didn't know what to make of it because it was deep. But that was either a printer or it was a sign.

So that was 2014. And then we moved into, we were out in California. We started to work in California. And in 2015, the leader started talking to us about Bigfoot. He started explaining the knowledge that he had about them being protectors of children, but also spiritual beings that can move between place. places. You know, the best context that he could put it to us, and he didn't use these words,

but I could use the best way I would describe as interdimensional beings that were able to do things that we weren't able to do. And he started teaching us, and one of the things that he taught us early on about Chiay Tonka was that there's this thing. I don't know if this is much for people, but there's this thing in ceremonial and spiritual work about working with spirits. If you've been to ceremony, Native ceremony, you know the spirits exist.

If you're not a native, angels would be a good word. He told us that Bigfoot was an ancestor of ours up until about 15,000 years ago because he had read and heard something he's pretty smart piercing together.

I think I heard that if you take Bigfoot DNA, there's a someone figured out about 15,000 years ago is when it changed. The DNA changed and whatever. They became involved with us. So the 95% human is an ancestor of us, but the 5% that is unidentifiedophile is the essence or the DNA of a being that was from a different dimension that parked itself in an ancestors of ours and made them

the way they are. That was his explanation. No reason to doubt it. The man has never lied to us. He's always told us the truth and everything that he's ever said has always come true. So, you know, he was getting us ready. And then he started telling us that they were around. They liked these children's ceremonies and they came around and that they wanted to make contact with us.

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with... Well, that really weird a lot of us out. I remember hearing, Jeremiah, that you'd had your own adventures in Oregon, and you can understand when people tell you, you know, this is more than the door opening, the zippering, this is them wanting to come forward, right? Wanting to step out of the shadow. Yeah, yeah, you know, yep. Yeah.

So, you know, he's kind of calm about. but he's still a little nervous and when he's nervous i'm really nervous okay i take my cues from him and so we started going out to millerton in 2015 and we had some friends out there and then we went over into massachusetts signed by mount washington you familiar with that absolutely yep yeah so we started doing things at mount washington what we were doing i'm not going to go in and say the name but we would put people and they would sit out in the woods for a number of days. And they would fast and they would pray. And then, you know,

they'd be out there a certain amount of days and then we'd bring them in and listen to them. And we started doing that in 15. And in 16, we had a whole bunch of people. There's people that are just starving for native ways and they want to learn things. And the guy that I work for or work with, he's not adverse to working with non-natives. He says that spiritual knowledge is for everyone, whereas a lot of natives don't think we should do anything with non-natives, but he's not that way. So we were putting a lot of people out there. He would only eat two at a time and we'd do a man and a woman, and he would keep the woman close to where we were, but he would put the men out in the middle of this forest.

And all us helpers, we called it the haunted woods. It was creepy. When they would sit out there from one to four days, right? No water, no food. and maybe out there praying. And so we were in 16, we were doing this. And we had a lot of people. And it was probably fifth or sixth day.

We had taken somebody out and bought somebody down. We were going to put somebody else out. And so we had to go out to the spot where he was using and gather all their things, right? And then take their things to the fire and burn and then put the new person's things up and set up their space. And me and the leader and a singer, it was this native guy from California. And his people have Bigfoot songs that they use to talk to Bigfoot and have relationship with Bigfoot, right? So me and the leader and this singer, we were out there with three or four other people and we were setting up to site. And the leader had those other guys start to set up to site.

And he had me and the singer, I'm with him about all five, ten steps away from they were. And he said, I want you to look over there. And now this forest is old growth, big trees. you know um but a lot of trails kind of open but big trees and i said i want you to look over here and so we're looking you know because when when people like that tell you something you pay attention because you're supposed to learn something right so we're looking over there and then he asked the singer he asked mike he said uh sing that big foot song now mike has this big voice big voice big voice you know so he starts putting it out there and the leader always has him sing loud so

he's like you know he's singing this big foot song and as we're looking over there he must must have been standing behind a tree. This is the first time I really get a good picture of one. He must have been standing with his back to the tree away from us, right? He just kind of pivoted on his right shoulder. He turned to his right and there's like his shoulder was on the tree and he pivoted around to look at us. And the three of us were probably 45, 50 feet from him. We're close.

He pivots out and he looks at us. Now, I'm 6-1, 240. He's maybe 6-2, 6-3, and he doesn't weigh anymore in me. And he is gray and he is brown and he's red, but he's more gray. His face is hairy, but it's very human-like, but it's a hairy face. And when he pivoted, he just looked at us. And, you know, Mike is singing and I'm just like, you know, wow. You know, I don't know what to say.

and the spiritual leader is looking at him and there's something going on there. I don't know what it was. And then the spiritual leader just kind of shook his head and the big foot that was over by the tree, he shook his head and he just pivoted back around behind the tree. It probably lasted maybe a minute, maybe a minute and a half. And so we set up the guy's site and then we went back down to where we were camping. And then that night, we had a lodge. And we got in the lodge and leader told us that he'd come and let us know that they were going to watch over us and that they would be around.

Just to give us a heads up. So in 16, you know, we were up there for a while and wasn't that bad. You know, you knew there was around, but that sighting was what we talked about, right? And so we got through it. And then in 17, we moved from, we had a spot. and north of Petaluma, California that we did ceremony. And we moved up into the Sierra Madres. Old Vietnam War Vets had some land up there.

Real crusty did, you know. Nice as could be, but real crusty, real hard. And our leader used to be a Marine. And so these two got it on. It's 15 miles from North San Juan. If anyone knows what North San Juan is, it is just the middle of nowhere, middle of nowhere. And you had to go interstate to four lane highway to two lane highway, right?

And then the two lane highway broke down into a gravel road. And then you drove on the gravel road and then you turned on to a dirt road. And the dirt road was a mile from the gravel to his place one mile. His own road, not maintained by the city or the county, his own road. And he invited us his wife was alive at the time to have ceremony there. We were needing a place. Now, this ceremony, I'm not going to give it this thing, but it's 12 days long. Okay.

So in 17, we set up there, and we have four days where we get ready, and we have four days where we do the actual ceremony, then we have four days that's closing. Anyway, so in 17, we camped all over this land. We had probably 30, 35, 40 people camped all over, right? no issues no issues and then in 18 um we great newsland um during this four days i was doing things um i slept out in the middle with this other guy i'm not going to go into that as people who know what i'm talking about know if they don't that's okay so me and this dude were sleeping out in the middle right and i woke up and i was cold and i something was not off you know something something woke me up and I kind of sat up and I looked around and over in the south it's marked by

some fabric here I looked over in the south and we had taken this big gasoline drum it might have held two or three hundred gallons when it was you know it was empty and we'd putting it up on this metal stand that the guy had that's where he used to keep his gas standing over there were three sets of red eyes now the the top of that um yeah Gas feral had to be all of 10 or 11 feet. The three eyes were standing over there, and they weren't much, they weren't much shorter than the top of that gasoline cap. But the thing that I got by looking at them, because, you know,

it spooked, I'm going to say it scared the, you know, it scared, scared me pretty good. The impression that I got was that they were very thin, but I knew who they were. And I looked at them, they looked at me, and I just said, you know, like a lot of times of people who, do ceremony will tell you, you just look away and pray that, you know, it's going to be a good outcome, right? So I just turned away and I went back to sleep. And I told the spiritual leader,

and he said, yeah, they were around. And nothing happened. We camped everywhere. And then we get into 2019. And now we've been going to this land for months. We go up there outside of the summer and do do sweats. And the leader is telling us that they're coming around and they want you to know they're around. So in 19, when we were up there, you could feel, when you stopped and paused, you could feel when they were around. And it was changing to the point where you could feel where they were at. You knew that somewhere right over in that thicket, there's somebody over there,

and you could feel when they're around. And the feeling was, it wasn't frightening, but it was not soothing either. It was, there was something over there that was powerful. There was a being there that knew more. It was just, it was a powerful presence, but it was also, you were safe. I don't know how that, they were there to make you safe. And so we knew where they were at, and we were getting comfortable with them. And once in a while, you'd hear a would knock.

You might hear a little, hoo-hoo-hoo. and questioned it, right? And so in 19, we were really getting comfortable with them. And, you know, we'd seen the three big ones the year before. And then when we got started in 19, we get up about 3.34 o'clock in the morning. And we have to get in lodge and we have to do things. And then we come out before the sun to do our thing for the four days. We come out before the sun rises.

and we're in there and there's the women are in the lodge and the guys are standing around and we use these porta poties and the port-a-potty door slams. Now it's it's 4.30 in the morning. It's dark. I mean, we're up in the mountains. It's dark. And that door slammed so hard. It's a jarred me. And we all looked at it and sort of like, what was that? And the leader starts walking. over there and you know we started heading over there and the door slams again i mean they they slam the door and so we get you know somebody finds the big by this time we have this big this big spotlight that someone has bought because evidently if we're going to see something they want to

see it as bright as you can right so they have this huge loom and flash um light we take it over there there there's nothing there when the spiritual leader walked over there and i'll give us some credits. Well, I wouldn't be locked over there. And he just listens. And he said, they're angry what we're doing with the waste. Now, we have these porta-potties, and we are emptying in the marshales. We empty them in with a shot back into some garbage cans, and then we haul them down the mountain side, and we dump them in these holes. No, excuse me, we were just dumping them on the ground. and the instruction was from him was to start digging a hole and putting the waste in holes, you know, bearing it.

As he said, it was offending them. Never question is weird, but that's what we were told, right? And so in the morning, you know, after that happened, we get ready and it's just getting daylight. The sun's just coming up and we're lined up to go in and I look over and there is a head. It's a huge head. And it's walking from my left.

I'm looking, see, I'm looking north. It's walking from my left to my right. And it's just the head and part of the shoulders because of the incline. And he just walks right by me. I mean, he's down there. I see him. And he just doesn't even look at me.

he just keeps walking, right? He just walks amongst the trees and like not a cure in the world of whether I saw him or not, you know? And then, you know, we heard a few weird sounds. There started being a few pebble tossing here and there. Just enough to make you jumping and keep you on edge. But no big stuff until we get to 20. And then from 1920, you know, pandemic kits, we still do things, but now we all camp close together. And we're a little more nervous.

But it's a pandemic and we really don't have anything happen. And then in 21, this is when life changing things happen. You know, people can say what they want. I was not alone in these happen. There was sometimes as many as 30 or 40 people. They're going through the same things and going through this. So in 21, we go up to the land. And there's me, my son, my wife, her sister, the leader, and this other woman who's going to sit out for a while.

She's going to sit and pray fast. And we get up during 21 and we get there. My wife's sister is there, right? No, she's my wife's adopted sister in the native way. And her name's Tanya, and this girl is part Mexican, and there's nothing in the world that makes her afraid. She's just got, she's got warry energy, right? She's sitting in her car, and she said she's been hearing noises, and she's sitting in her car ready to go. Which really kind of surprised me because I've known this woman for 10 years at this point.

I have never seen her afraid. And so we get out and the spiritual leader walks into the woods, not far, maybe 10, 15 yards. And he's standing out there and he starts singing song. He stopped singing and the woods got quiet. And it was like he was listening. And then he came back and he gathered us that were there and he said, come here. And so we walked out really. He said, the Chia Tonka that are here are different than the ones before.

We're like what? And he said, there's different ones here. These are warriors. These are Akisha Tel. Well, Kishita is maybe a word for warrior. Zuyas may be a word for warrior. I can't remember what the word. But there were warriors, right?

And we said, okay. And the energy was different. The energy was different. And then when we progressed in the year, we had this guy come over from Switzerland. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. If data management is slowing down, your business.

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The whole time you're doing stuff, you have to have a fire going, so you have to have someone to watch your fire. He's picked his friend who's a female, and the guy that I do stuff with, he allows women to do fire. And me and my son are there, and she's watching fire, and we're talking, and me and my son go to bed, and we're in there about an hour, we're not sleeping. And she comes over to my tent, and she says, you need to come home. over here. There's something going on. So me and my son get out and we walk over to where we have the fire. And she says over there, now the Vietnam veteran lives up the hill.

You know, we're down on the, pulling news down that driveway. First you come to our area and then you take a left and you go up the hill probably about 100 yards, right? He lives up there. Now he has a horse over there and he has an alpaca. One of his apaka has died just before we get there and there was rumor that maybe a big foot got his alpaca, but he never can find. He never confirmed it.

She said there's something over there. He said, we're standing there, you know. Once again, it's dark up there. And where she's pointing to where the crowd is, you can't see anything. You can hear the horse occasion, but you can't see anything. And you hear that, hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo. And if you've been out in the woods and you hear that, and it's one of them, you know that that's not an owl because it's too big, right?

It's just too big. And it's, who-hoo! And we're like, what? You know, because now it gets your attention because it's a big voice. You know, this is coming from a big voice box. And it goes, hoo-hoo. It starts doing that. Holy cow.

The hair stood up on my head. It still does think about it. And it did that for about 15 seconds. Blah, making those weird noises. And then it stopped. We're looking up there. We're like, wow. You just say we didn't go to sleep, but there was nothing else happening, right?

and the dawn came and me and my son we went to sleep and then we got up and we had to go get Mike the singer I talked about because he was coming up to help us so we got Mike and we came back to the land and you know the day went on in Bethill and we were hanging out and then it got dark and um we were hanging out in about 11 o'clock you heard a scream it was more fierce than the Ohio, it was deep. It resonated. It was coming from where the Swiss guy was sitting. And it made your organs move a little bit. It was loud. It was deep and it was fierce. And we all jumped up and we looked at each other and my son's looking for the big spotlight. And what are we going to do? Because when someone's sitting out, no one's supposed to see them.

They're sitting out there by themselves. You're not supposed to the only person is supposed to see him is the spiritual leader who takes him out there and he's sitting out there and he looks at us and then the next the second scream goes and it's loud and it's fierce and he looks at us and he goes we got an angry big foot and then he does something i don't know what he starts going down there to where that guy is now it's down in the valley it's black is it's coal miners black down there and this thing has just screamed twice and the other two guys grabbed the light and they started taking the trail but he's across country because it's maybe 100 yards down there and as we're moving down there you heard a third screen from the same area it's just loud it probably goes on for five or six seconds and it's just so powerful and we stop and we're kind of close because we're not supposed to look at that guy and he walks up on him and he starts talking to the guy and they talk about back and forth and turns around

points with his head and we start walking up the hill without the guy. I'm like, what is, this dude is not coming back with us? You've got to be nuts, dude. And so we get back up to where we're having the fire and he says, the dude

says he feels protected within his space and he doesn't know what it was, but he just, it woke him up. And so we let him stay out during the next day, we went and got him, and we put him in the lodge. And when you're done sitting out and you go in the lodge,

you tell your story, you know, what you prayed about or maybe something you received. And he said that later that night, when he was sitting in that spot, they came. And they sat outside his spot and they talked to him in his head. And they said, I want you to tell your spiritual, thank you for helping us and praying for us. And that was his message.

I'm like, wow. All right. So we get through that. And then we have the children's ceremony coming up on the same land. Now we've moved it to this land. And there's only a few of us travel restrictions. So we're going to have this children's ceremony up there. And there's a tree there that we're going to use.

And there's only like five of us, five or six of us, right? And we get started. This children's dance is different from the other things we do. We start later in the day. and we don't have to completely fast. And we get started on that first day, right? And we are doing our thing and we're resting and we're going in and praying and dancing. We had a place.

There was an old dilapolated trailer. One bedroom, probably a 45-footer, maybe an old RV trailer. Someone had parked on his land and just left it. And the man would go back there to go back there to go bathroom. You know, go urinate. That's where you would go. And it was right next to the lodge. and you go between the lodge and make trailer,

and you go back there, and there was a big blackberry brambles that were all on this west side. And so I go over there. There's only five of us, and I walk over there to go to the bathroom. I'm wearing a ceremonial skirt. No shirt, barefooted.

And I walk over there, and I move my skirt to go to the bathroom. I'm looking down and I look up and there he is. He's eight feet away from me, maybe nine, tops ten feet. He's that close. He has crouched down in the Blackberry Bramble bush and he's made a big circle because he must have been there for a while. He's looking me in the eye. He looks exactly like Patty. Except this dude is.

I'm not exaggerating. He's five feet across the shoulders. If I weigh 240 pounds, he weighs 1,000. That's how much bigger he was than me. He was massive, massive. And the weight that he's crouched down there, he's able to see me, and if I'm 6'1,

he's looking at me in the eyes. I figure he's 8 feet, maybe a little over 8 feet. His chest is bare, almost like a gorilla. The hair on his arms and his legs is long, three, four inches. His head is slightly conical, but not like people say. It's not round, but it's not conical.

It's somewhere in between, right? He's looking at me, and he has no whites. His eyes are totally black. There's no whites in his eyes. The first thought that goes through my head is, you don't smell. I don't know why. Maybe because by this time I was listening to all kinds of podcasts and stories about people talking about how bad this smell. And I'm looking at him as the first thought is like, you don't smell.

Now, I realize his arms, this is probably pretty close. If he's eight or nine feet away from me, his arms long enough that I feel like he could grab me. I really do. The way that he is leaned for. It's almost like a gorilla does, you know, because they're armed so much longer, but his legs aren't short like that. His legs are like massive, the way he's haunched. I mean, the energy that is contained in this being just by the way that he has set himself is like amazing. It's overwhelming.

And I just looked at him. And I think that we probably stood there. I know it's hard to death, but I'm going to say a couple minutes. He just kind of looks, once in a way he kind of tilt his head, but he wasn't threatening me. I mean, if he wanted to do anything to me, there was nothing I was going to do. There was nothing I was going to do. There was nothing. And he looked at me, and I'm the one that turned away.

I'm like, I got to go with my sister-in-law. She's got to see. She's got to see that. that my sister-in-law has always had my back and I went together and we came back and he was gone. And I've only gone. It took me 30 seconds to grab her and bring her back there. He has left that spot, that big, he's like,

he's like pushed the Blackberry bambles down, like making a bed. But there's no trail in or out and he made no sounds. And I'm so like he was right here, dude. And she's like, well, I believe you because I can look in your eyes. I believe you, but he was gone, right? And so we have that. And then we get done with children's dance. And then in August we have that ceremony.

It takes all those days. So in the four days we're getting ready, we are all camping close together now. Well, the men and women are camping close together. And the people who run the kitchen are up on the hill. And we start doing this thing that we do for all these days. And I'm sitting under like a shade arbor. We rest under a shade arbor. And I'm looking around.

and I look back to where you can kind of tell where the Swiss guy sat. And as I'm looking down there, I see this tree that is, you know, its old growth has fallen over into this other tree. And I'm just kind of looking because, you know, when you're out there for, you know, you're doing something for four days without food and water, you get interested in a lot of other things. And so I'm looking. And as I follow the big tree that fell into the other tree, it fell into a tree that had a why. And somebody's built a platform up there. And as I look closer, the platform also has a roof. And it's big.

We all look. We all can see that this platform with the roof on it, on top of these trees, looks down in the spot where the Swiss guy was sitting. It was almost like they could have been up there and they could have come down that tree and been right where the Swiss guy was so quick to protect him because that was the feeling that we had that it protected him. That really blew us away, right? And so the leader is telling us, yes, they are here to watch over us because we're doing important work.

And they love the children. And even this thing we do outside the children's dance is also for the children in a different way. And so he tells us, you know, to pray for them for their help and tell them thank you. And not to be afraid because they want, he says to us, and this is the thing that's hard for us, they want to come into the fire. And so everything that we do, and NATO will tell everything that runs, that's, you know, about praying and stuff, there has to be a fire. From start to finish, you have to have a fire going at all times. And if it goes out and it's over.

And so he says, they want to come to the fire. And everybody looks at each other. And he's the first one to say, makes me nervous because what do they want? They want to contact us. So we get down with 21 and then we move into 22. Now we know when we go up to land in 22 that they're around, right? We know there's just different ones around. And as soon as you go to land 22, you know.

Now, like years before, with the other ones, you could tell where they were. And when we got there and we're standing around, the spiritual leader said they're over there, there, there. And when he had you look over there to feel that and get, you could feel it. He knew exactly where they were. And when he pointed out, it was this weird thing. You didn't know. But as soon as he pointed it out, you didn't know. And there was five or six of them.

them. And the energy was like, if you've ever been around somebody that was like in the seals or a forced recon and the green berets, they have an aura. They have an aura that says, you know, don't mess. Absolutely. Don't mess, right? Yep. That's what they felt like. They felt like these are some warriors and don't mess. And so as we take that in, right, we're like, okay, this is all right. They're not going to hurt us. So we get this girl sitting in the lodge and she's going to be out for a couple days. We get her fire going and we're taking turns. Me and my sister-in-law, we're taking turns.

So she gets up to feed the fire, then I get up the next hour. So you get a couple hours sleep, right? She doesn't. Then I do it. So it's my turn. I set my alarm when I get up about 3 o'clock on this first night we're up there. And I feed the fire and all of a sudden I hear this noise. It's a battle.

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there was no um there was no denying it here's one of the weird things no one else woke up and i'll get to some way that's really in some of our later things no one wakes up right no one i'm like how did you guys not wake up and so i went back to sleep and we get through the night and I said to anybody, did you guys hear anything? People like, no, I didn't hear nothing. And the spirit guy looks at me and says, yeah, I did. And so we get through the day and now, as it's getting in the evening, where you're always watching the weather, there's a chance of rain.

Now, we got to make a decision. Now, we got to keep this fire going, right? We can't have fire going out. And you can keep a fire going in any rainstorm. I don't know people know this, making sure that it's really hot when it starts and keeping it fed, you can keep a fire going. And his last resort is an old wood-burning stove in that old dilapulated trailer, right? That's the last resort.

You can move some fire in there. So we got to make the decision. Are we going to stay for the fire and keep a fire going? Or is spiritually they're going to bring her out early. And he talks to us because we're helping him and we say, let's do it. Let's go to the night. We can keep it going. And we make that decision, and there's something behind this little green building that's up there,

something snapped, something big, stepped on something. Now, first, I thought it was Bigfoot. I'm like, that's awful close and that's awful freaking big, dude. I've heard you guys before. That's, that's massive. The spiritual leader's looking over there and he says, let's go get her. And I'm like, wow, I thought. So we have a tent set up that my wife and her sister are sleeping in and has some cots, right?

And so we're going to go get this girl and we hear a, woo-woo. it's up by where the road comes into the land so it's a mile away right and then so that's on north if you're looking north it's right there 180 over in the south you hear and then between that south and north on the 180 towards the west side there are whoops going on there now you know there's five five six of them they're woking to each other and they're moving they're moving towards us we get that girl the lodge, right? We get her,

the girls get her over into this tent and we sit on these two cots and there's six of five or six of the ones, right? Now the woods are getting louder. Woo!

And they're moving. They're moving together. And as we're sitting in there and he starts to talk to and do some stuff, the noise is louder. They're converging. And now they're over by the lodge

and over by that trailer. And the whooping is going up in decibels, right? And she's talking very calmly because she's still doing whatever she's doing, you know, praying and doing what she did. You start to feel your body shake. The hairs on your body just start to rise and they're whooping, right? And now it's coming into almost like one whoop. And as she's talking, this is this weird, weird dichotomy, right? This girl who a little bit ago was praying and was fasting and now has been taken out of that zone, still in that zone in her head, your spirit and she's talking about what she went through and we're listening and you heard that

woo woo and now i'm not kidding it's as loud as a jet airliner it's it's it's it's a hundred twenty decibels dude and they are just rocking your body it's one it is one voice woo woo and they are just putting it on oh oh man we're looking at each other and it's like what are we doing because they are loud. They are loud. And it's five, six of them. The spiritual leader says, we got to go. And now we're sitting in a tent, mind you, right? Canvas, right? We're sitting in this tent, but something about that feels safer than getting out and running for the cars. But it says, we got to go. And so the ladies grab her and I run to one of the trucks. And the first thing I do is So the truck's probably about 40 feet up the hill.

And the light's spaced right down on the lodge and the trailer. I run right up there and I hit the lights. And there is nothing standing there. Nothing. I'm like, what is going on here? And we load her up and we take off. And we come back the next day and it's all fine. It's all fine.

Right? So the next year, that's all happens. It just gets wilder and wild. This is still 22. So yes, 22. We get further into the year, right? So we do the children's dance there. Nothing happens.

And then we do that dance we do in the summer. And we have told everybody in the circle, everybody who comes, you know, people come from all of the country. Some people come from different parts of the world. We all convened to pray for good things to have community and then go in to suffer together. And we've told the whole community what's happened. This is the spiritual leader that he doesn't hold anything back. He do know full well what you're going to get involved with any time you're doing anything with you.

And so we go up there, right? Now he's got us, the men and wind camp close together. The cook shack has been told, hey, pay attention. because they're up on the hill. The cook shack on the first day of us doing things, where they cook for the supporters and the singers and the firekeepers because the dancers don't get any food. The singer is the cook, the main cook is my sister and her friend,

and they're up there and they know, all of a sudden they know big fits around. My sister's pretty aware. So they know they're up there. But, you know, we don't know that because we're, sequestered. When you start the ceremony as the participants, you become sequestered. So we're down there and we're doing our thing and we're fasting and we're doing our thing and going in and out of the circle and they're having their own experiences, but they're not too not scaring them, right? And so we get down with the first day and we finish up and so now we're

all camped close together. My wife and her sister camped close. We're not usually supposed to do that, but the leader felt like we need to stay together. And we're all getting ready for bed. And as we lay down, it's about 9 o'clock. It's still light out. I say good night to my wife, and she says, we lay down and you hear a, woo-woo. And we're like, oh, they're here.

They're here. And people got up. We've been up since 4 o'clock in the morning. We've been doing this all day in the sun. We want to rest, but everyone gets up, right? We all come down by the fire. and we bring the cook staff down and because he wants us

the leader wants us all together right and we're standing down with the fire and you can hear them out there making all kinds of it's like they're going through their whole replica twelf sounds the hooting the shrill whistles the scream they're out there making noise and we're all together now this is

what I talked about earlier about one of the things about seeing them this is when this happens so we're all standing down by the fire which is close to the lodge, right? And we're looking to the west. We're looking around. The leader has the mic sing the Bigfoot song, and he sings that, and we make prayers.

Like, you know, he has different people pray. Like, we're not your enemies. We're here to, you know, we're here for ceremony. We have, we respect you, right, you know, we're just, we're being very courteous and very respectful. And then there he is. Over to the west and to the right a little bit. There he is.

He's standing on a trail. he's more reddish blonde than he is black his eyes are amber they're almost golden right and his eyes are golden he's standing down that path and so he makes him about eight eight to nine feet tall

he's not as massive as the black one I saw but he's a big dude and he's standing there now here's where it really gets weird about who can see him there is 18 to 20 of a standing there, right? It breaks down to about half can see him clear as day, another half can't see him at all, at all.

I don't know what you're pointing at. And other people are like, he's right there, he's right there. And he stood there probably for four or five minutes, not threatening, just looking at us, right? I don't know if it was the Bigfoot song or the way that we had said prayers and but he just stood there and we're well thus that I could see him are just like wow you seeing this though it was like I wish I could see it and and that's what people say I wish why can't I see it and then he just turned and walked away and so when he walked away y'all

gathered and people had questions why couldn't I see him and our leader he couldn't tell us It was like certain people couldn't. And with this crowd, it was not a lack of non-believers. Believe me, this crowd believes. They believe in him. They believe in the big foot. They believe in the spiritual realm. They believe in prayers.

And often couldn't see him, right? And so we're sitting there and they're out in the woods and they're making occasional noises. And this is the weird thing. I go lay down in the height of this and I go to sleep. It's like you can get you standing. They're out there, whistling. and hooting and make it and i guess it went on to like five or six in the morning no four you get it before he went on until four o'clock in the morning they're just out there making noise right and we got up

and the next um three nights we were out there um first night second night they made noise they were out they knew you up and they were out there so long doing it you could differentiate who was who this one is you know almost like this is give them numbers. Oh, that's number one. Oh, that's number three. You could differentiate the different ones from each other just by them being around so much. And so on the fourth game, when we get done, the leader asks us, you know, this is pretty, the activity is getting pretty crazy. And you guys are going to stay or do you want to go home? And we all just decided to stay, right? So we got done about 6 o'clock and we watched the movie. He has a big

movie screen. That's what we do. We online and we all went to bed. about three o'clock in the morning, my brother-in-law, who's been watching the fire, says, Steve, they're here. And I get up and he'd gotten up for some reason, and he was sitting there whittling. And he looked over and he saw this orb. He saw these red orbs floating. And that's what got his attention, right? These red orbs. And when he was looking, the red herbs turned into ice.

And there were tombs standing over there. and we went over the next day they were between 9 and 10 feet tall from where they were standing and what he saw. And they were just, the orbs turned into eyes. That was the best way he could put it.

We're like, okay. I mean, you know, at this point, Jeremiah, anything is possible and you're not denying anything that you see and, uh, native will carry around ceremony. Things really get different. So,

um, we packed it up and we didn't have any, uh, We went up for sweat a couple of times more than nothing happened in the 23 was our last year there. And so we're going up there in 23 and it's me and my wife, my son, and a friend of ours. We're going to go up there and have sweat and meet people up there, right? And we're pulling into the off the gravel into his dirt road, right? You got really slowed down because it's redded and it's steep.

And we ease in there. And as we come around the corner and we start going down the hill, off to our right in the woods, I think me and my son probably saw it clearly. My wife saw part of it. And our friend Lori saw part of it too. You saw a white flash, like open up, like a big white flash. And you saw this big black thing step into it and the light went gone. I saw the whole thing. My wife who was sitting next to me, she saw parts of it.

Lori, who was on the right side, saw a part of it. And my son who was sitting behind me in the back seat. He saw most of what I saw. And my wife said right away, I went to tell the other ones were here. And I'm like, wow. Now, was it the doorway? I would think so. Did I make it up?

No. So it cleared his day. So we drove down there. It's like, okay, it's starting again. We get ready. This is 23. We get into the days when we get ready, right? We're all up there.

We're camping together. The cook shack is down by the circle. We're not 100 feet from each other now. We have been through some stuff together. And we know they're around. It's like the second day of getting ready, you know, where we get everything done. We chop wood. We get everything ready.

we make sure all our regalia is ready to go. We get everything ready to go. We're standing over by a shed where we kept our stuff, and I happen to look over, you know, just looking over, and I see two of them. It's definitely a female, and I see breasts, and a small one. And they're standing in these trees, and the trees have branches that kind of come over,

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disease. And they're standing right there, and she's probably seven feet. He's no more than five or four or five feet. And I said, whoa, it's broad daylight out. And I said to somebody, hey, do you see this? And pretty soon everybody's over there. And once again, about half of us could see him and half couldn't. But it's not the same people. Some people who saw them before are seeing them now, and people who saw them before aren't seeing it. It's a weird thing. They're not seeing him this time,

and others that didn't are seeing these two. And I'm like, what is, you know, it's weird. So half of us, and as we're looking at him, the spiritually looks, he said, they want something from us. And he's standing there and he's doing his thing. I don't know if you've ever seen how spiritual years late. They do the whole thing.

And they kind of, you know, they go still. It's like they're listening and they're not there. Their body's there. And they're just very still and their spirit is doing something. He's listening. And when he's backing himself and he turns to us, they leave. And he says, that one needs help. The little one needs help.

And we're like, well, what do you mean? And we're going to do, I'm not going to give him a name, but we're going to do a night ceremony this night. And it's in his house. The Vietnam veteran is staying at his girlfriends. And he has a house on top of the hill and we're going to go up there and we're going to block out all the windows and doors and we're going to have a ceremony at night.

People who live this way know what I'm referring to. He's that kind of leader. He says they're going to come. And so, you know, we get in sweat and we go up there and we get everything ready. And he gets ready and then we get everything ready. and then we do things for him, and then the lights, we turn the lights off. We've covered all the windows, so it's totally black in there, right? And the singers get going and their songs going, and all send the energy free just changes.

I mean, it's intense to begin with, right? If you've ever been to one of these nice ceremonies, it's mind-blowing. The man who's leading us says they're here and goes on to tell us that there is a clan of Bigfoot standing all around this house and they have their hands on the house. And he says there's about 20 to 24 of them standing out there. So this little one can receive healing. And we sing through it and the energy is more than I've ever seen. I've been to a lot of these.

I've been to a lot of these. And he gets done. And when the lights come back on and he's there, he says, this is, I'll just say as he said it. He said that the little one had taken some kind of spiritual hurt needed a spiritual healer. And that's what they had been doing around, and they had been trying to get our attention to do that.

And he finally heard it. And when we got done, you felt this, like, feeling of gratitude coming from the woods all it. It went from that fierce warrior stuff to, you know, to almost loving coming out of the woods, right? And as we are getting ready on the third or fourth day, we have a pair of twins that come. There were nine. These little twin girls, they saw one. And they, these girls, you know, while we're all doing this, you know, freaking out that bigfoot and trying to keep our act together, the two nine-year-olds are in their tent playing Bigfoot.

They're not afraid at all. When we're walking down the hill one day, they said, there he is. a man space and they took off running and someone grabbed him and they'd like what do you mean they said he was standing right there and he had a man space like whoa um so we were like okay they're here um it started on our first day and they were out in the woods with that same gang same sounds um but not as close and not as as intimidating um and it went on for three nights first night second night it went on. And it was kind of almost comforting, right? And they started doing this little whistle thing. And you knew where they were, but it wasn't like any of the whooping, it wasn't

the screaming, it wasn't the samurai chatter. It was just nice and gentle and you felt good. And on the fourth morning, we got up and we all did our thing and the reader gathered us together. He said they've gone. He said they left in the night, there's only two of them here. And some people are like, well, why did they go? And he says, we will find out today. It's more that cryptic medicine or the spiritual leader stuff. They sometimes pretty cryptic, right? And they know the answers.

And they want you to find out on your own, right? So this is the last day and we start doing what we're doing, right? And we're out in the middle for a while and we sit down. This is how the day goes, right? We're out in the middle, probably about, oh, two, three, it's hard to tell. It's sometime in the afternoon. Now, where we do the thing is a clearing, and there's woods all around us, right? And as we are out in the middle, and the singers are going and we're doing, I think, this black helicopter comes into view.

And he's only about 500 feet off the deck. This helicopter is probably a four or five cedar. It's not tremendously large. It's all black, and the windows are tinted. And there are no tail signs. It's a black helicopter with no tells, and it's above us, and it's just hovering up there. And, you know, we're doing our thing, and every so often we have to look to the sky and raise our hands, right? We do that, and there it is, and he probably hovered around there for five or six minutes, just watch it.

And he wasn't that far. And then he spun to the north, and he went to the north, where most of the activity goes on, right? And we didn't see him, and then we got done. Okay, so we get done and we're like, what was that all about? And, you know, we come out, we get our things down, and we have our meal. We're resting and we're going to watch a movie. That's our tradition. Then we get done doing this.

We have a movie. It's probably about 9 o'clock. And all of a sudden, down in the north, in a big valley, there's automatic gunfire. It's not the shotguns and the rifles and the pistols that you occasionally hear up there. I was in the service. It's automatic weapons, dude. They open up. It probably goes on for two or three.

There's some heavy action goals. It's automatic weapons, right? And then it's quiet. And now we're all looking, you know, because we don't want to get, you know, it's down there, open those three shots. But we have this feeling of dread. Everyone does. We're like, we're are concerned for our friends.

Because that's where they mainly are when they are around. And we, you know, the fight, the gun fighting is over after two or three minutes. you don't hear nothing um we go to bed and we get up the next morning and we're going to pack up and the spiritual leader tells us um that they knew that the helicopter was coming and they skyed out um and what happened down there was the two that stayed back they tried to um kill them that was the automatic gunfire they had tried to kill our friends we don't understand why we don't know why he didn't know why i can't tell you who was in the black helicopter no clue, but I know a gunfight when I hear one.

And yeah, that's what happened there. And this last year, we had to move. And the only thing that happened is because we're closer to a city now is one of them walked through the middle of our camp at night. We all woke up, right? We're like, oh, because we're all in different tents now. We're sequestered and men and women are not camped together because we have room. And everybody heard it and everybody's like, oh, it's the firekeeper.

Well, the fire keeper weighs 250. Whatever was walking around weighed 800 or 900, right? And in that last year, before we left that land on Dan's land, that was the other thing of it, we found one track. I put my foot next to it. I think it was probably, it was the only track we ever saw. it was probably 18 to 20 inches long, probably at the ball of the foot, probably six to seven inches. And when I stood next to it, I'm 240, I didn't invent the ground at all. And this track was probably an inch in the dirt, an inch down in the soft kind of clay stuff.

It was the only track that we ever saw. We thought we saw something move far, but this one was clearly of track. And, you know, when people ask us about it, they said, well, any pictures and recordings, and as people know who are natives, we don't record anything from ceremony. Cameras and recording devices are not allowed. And I was told by the leader to come on to let people know, you know, the natives, as we all know, we all have some relationship with Chia Tonka. And some of us,

Forrest brothers like the Cherokee, to the place where I go, they're protectors of children. But you got to remember other tribes have them as the eaters of men. And they're not all kind and gentle, but they do all have to abide by certain physical and spiritual laws. so if you see them out in the woods and you don't fire at them

or try to do something to them you're most likely going to walk away and almost 99% of the time your encounter is not random now there's not to be said you can't sneak up on them if the wind is right and your aura is right and you're very calm and you're not trying

but you remember when you're out in the woods your aura is that of a predator and predator has a kind of energy and they pick up on that. Do they take us out? Yes, they do. There are some that kill human beings without a doubt. Everyone knows that.

We know our relationship with them. We know that if some people have very kind relationship, you got lucky and had, just like human beings, you found a big foot that is kind and gentle, wants to have a relationship with you, but with you only. And the thing that I think people realize, and maybe I'll share this,

and I don't know if it's a secret, your ability to see or have some kind of encounter has a lot to do with what you believe. What you believe is possible. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here, You need the Intuit ERP.

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You know, short of a body, right? Short of a body. No one's ever going to believe, especially with AI. But they are there, and they've been here for a long time. There's more than people know. You never, remember, there's never just one. There's never just one. The last thing is that, you know, what we were taught is that, that head shaking thing,

is them trying to go against a mandate. Or there's a word, there's a word, like a law, like a spiritual or physical law. When they start shaking that head, you've got to be moving. You've got to be moving. because that means they're going to attempt to do something. If they want you to be deceased, it doesn't take much. And when we have encounters, sometimes one of the things that we have to remember is, maybe there's worse things out that they are protecting us from.

Because if Bigfoot, the possibility of Bigfoot is there, and we know it is, there's other things that are possibility. Dogmen, we've all heard of that. the legends of what the people on this land have, when they goes, different kinds of shapeshifters. If those things, if Bigfoot is real,

those things can be possibly be real too. And maybe they're protecting us from a lot of things that are out there. Don't ever point guns at them. They can smell gunpowder. That's how they know it is. And they know, can it kill them? I don't know.

what happens to them when they die because we've never, you know, my own thinking is that their body dissipates, but maybe it goes back to the dimension where the part of them comes from. I don't know. But I know that they are not just a physical being, but they are a physical being. They need substance, they need water, they need to reproduce.

But they have things that they can do that I have seen and been part of that are things, that humans can't do. That's about what I got. William, absolutely fascinating. You had talked about Eugene and, I mean, I know you know that I really love that area. East of Eugene, I should say. Is there an area then that I should be cautious of going into or just

be aware. You know, it is you, I listen to your show. Your heart is in the right place. You're not a threat. You don't want to harm them. Do I think they're a place to not to go? Yes, I do.

Can I tell you where they are? No, because it depends on which ones you're dealing with. There are some that tolerate us pretty well. There's some that want to have relationship. And there's other ones that like to step on our head. but it sounds like from your I listened to your show you was that in Oregon

where you had them to zip your tent that that was actually in Iowa Iowa yeah yeah that was Iowa where I live that was nuts I can't

I can't say on air but I we can talk off yeah do you remember what Iowa stands for it's the Iowa tribe correct. See, when I was in South Dakota,

Iowa standard for idiots out wandering around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got it. I'm not originally from the state, so it doesn't bother me. Yeah, we have a lot of fun out here. We do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm originally from Western Mass, so, yeah. Yeah, it's a different world.

I would say, you know, I would say that the further noise that you get, the meaner they get. In Oregon. And the bigger. The further north into Canada. Ah, yes, of course. I, you know, the one I had in Eugene was very protective. I can't say because most of my encounters have been in the Sierra Madres and then in Mount Washington. I think that you

you need to ask yourself what you want to do you want to have relationship you want to see them, you want to hear them, what do you want to do? I mean, I absolutely want to I would love to see one next that is something that I've I've come to internally

yeah, I'm there I am absolutely there You know, I told myself when I was told they were coming around and I was like, yeah, I'll see one. And when I did, I think I was blessed by having the one who showed himself to me not to be threatening. I however saw that he could have been in a minute, you know, in the wrong circumstance, right? But he was a nice guy. But I also believe that anything is possible. I really do.

After being in these ways all my life and seeing the things that I have seen. I think that will do for most people out there if you want to have an encounter in the best way is that once the mindset is that anything is possible, most things become possible. If let's say you have people listening where they are reaching out to them and there's conversations going on, what is our responsibility when it comes to that? Our responsibility is in native ways, and especially the people I belong to, is to treat everyone as a relative, have that respect for their space, their ways, because their ways are different than ours, right? But I will tell people, Big Flint's Hasquatch are drawn to Native American ceremony. If you start talking to people who go to ceremony, they're always around. They are drawn to ceremony. I think that is the spiritual component of them.

they have a deep spiritual component but people, you know, you heard people looking into their eyes as a life-changing experience. No, absolutely.

A hundred, 100%. I will, I don't know if you've ever heard me talk about this because I think I've talked about it maybe once. The last,

the Sunday after the festival in Oak Ridge, or was it Monday? And I was driving around and I was driving around. and a gentleman there William had said or Bill he'd said are you are you ready to see one I'm like yeah absolutely um so I was driving around the reservoir and I was I was like I am ready to see one the second afterwards I drove by this tree a pine tree that was covered in the ivy this is wild and I saw the silhouette of one in the ivy for like half a second and then disappeared and I was like, whoa, what, what just happened, dude? It was wild.

Do you feel like that was one? I don't know. I honestly don't know because I had gotten a really bad infection in my legs out there and so I was starting to take antibiotics and I don't know if that was like I had a fever at the time. So I honestly don't know. I want it to be, you know. Well, you know, one of the pieces of advice that I would tell everybody in a lot of things is one of the things when we want something, you have to, you have to know what that looks like. So someone says, I wanted to be better. Do you know what being better looks like? I want to have more. Do you know what that looks like? You have to in your mind know what it looks like to you. Did you see one? My guess is yes, you did. You know, when you're in a ceremony, when you fast, you become different. When you have a fever, you become. different. Exactly.

Things that go on us, you know, I think you did. But you have to tell yourself that you did without any doubt. There's no room that, you know, the people that you talk to, I would imagine, I've listened to your show for a year and a half. They don't have any doubt about what they saw, did they? Absolutely. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

There's no doubt at all. Yeah. Oh, man. This is great. Oh, boy. William, it has been just privileged to talk to you and thank you for sharing just what a view inside

something that most listeners would never experience and it's very special that you have shared that. Thank you. You're very welcome, Jeremiah. I'm going to, we're going to cut recording. I want to talk to you for a minute if that's all right. That's fine. I just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you,

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