Bigfoot Society - Chased by Bigfoot in Mollala, Oregon!

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Ed shares his jaw-dropping encounters with Bigfoot in Oregon. From a close sighting on Highway 101 in California to spine-chilling experiences in the Mollala River Corridor of Oregon, Ed's story is nothing short of extraordinary. Witness Ed's transformation from a curious observer to a daring researcher who used distinctive screams and red light techniques to interact with these elusive creatures. Listen to his unsettling tales of being chased, observing their behaviors, and even recording their screams, all while navigating unknown forest roads and camping spots. This episode is filled with firsthand accounts and detailed descriptions of the locations, making it a must-listen for wilderness enthusiasts and Bigfoot believers alike.🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members-only episode every single week on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Ed today. Ed is an individual who really,

reached out through email about some things that he experienced out there in Oregon over the years. But, Ed, it's a privilege to have you on the show today. How are you doing today, sir? I'm doing good. Perfect. We were talking a little bit in the pre-show, but I'm excited to get right into this. So, Ed, I'm going to go ahead and pass the mic right over to you. And feel free to share with us what you experienced over the years when you were out there in Oregon. Okay. I first started out when I was about 16, 17, I think. But this was in California, somewhere around Eureka, Humboldt, you know, Humboldt County.

We were heading to Bakersfield, and we were cutting off on 101, my brother-in-law, sister and brother-in-law. and it was at night. And my nickname that they call me is Sunny. And so it was late at night when we were heading down the road. And I was asleep in the front seat. He was driving and he stopped the car in the middle of the highway. There was nobody around, you know. And he's like, Sunny, sunny.

And I woke up and he's. And he's like, look at that. And the car was stopped, and I looked over in the embankment. It was a clear moon night, you know, the full moon. And it was standing up, standing up kind of like on an embankment. And it walked down in front of the car, turned and did like a classic, you know, Bigfoot look at us, turned back around and just walked over. And we can see it walked down an embankment and off.

you know, up into the woods and I'm like he was saying, well, let's go chase that thing and I'm like, no,

I've never, I've been in the woods you know, since I was a kid. And I'm like, I've never seen anything like that. I was not going to go chase that thing.

And I never said anything to my dad. I never said anything to him or anybody about that because I wasn't for sure what I had just seen. And passed forward to when we were in Oregon, my ex and family, my daughter, we started camping there in Malala River Corridor, that's in Marion County. in Oregon

and we started we went up there with some friends and we started seeing like eyes and stuff glowing back at us and from the camp light and didn't know what it was when we knew something was moving around us

and that was more than just one and it kind of scared us and we were like we didn't know what it was and the friends of ours that we were with, they started talking about later after we packed up, we packed up and laughed, and they started telling us later about Bigfoot, and then we started seeing pictures.

And I started showing me pictures and stuff of Bigfoot, and I got into that, and I was like, you know, these pictures, that's the same thing I saw there in California. California, you know, on that Highway 101. I said, that's the same thing I saw it. And so we just kept going up to that spot, that spot where we camped at, there used to be like a ranger station there.

And the ranger station was down. All it was was a foundation, but it was a big area out there. and we can put two or three campers and stuff out there or more and tents and stuff. So it was a pretty good size area. And we'd gone there so much that, and we'd seen Bigfoot around there that we called it the Bigfoot camp. And so we started... kind of getting used to them and then we we found some other people that we started going out with and uh orie he had ended up um he ended up he he was uh doing like uh

we got into like a group to go out and research them and stuff and so we would either go go up to that camp or we've gone up to several different places. And there was one time we went camping, just my family, and the Bigfoot camp was somebody else was in there. So we went down the road a little ways, which was about a mile down the road where there's a bridge off to the side and there were a little spot over there. And all these spots were not in a designated campground.

And so we pulled off. They were just like pull-off spots where loggers had logged, and there was a landing. And they were old, so, you know, trees had grown up around them. And so there was a pretty good, nice place to camp. and we were up there camping and my daughter, I think she was like a couple of years old. She started throwing a pet

and started screaming and crying and carrying on and we were wanting to go take a walk. And when we stepped out onto the road, all of a sudden I heard this scream. A scream that I never even heard before, I didn't even hear them whenever we were watching them over there at the Bigfoot camp. I never even heard that screen. And so I figured that's what it was.

And so I got my daughter settled down. And so then I thought, well, I'm going to try to imitate it. This was probably about 1993. and I never even heard anybody else doing these screams like this before. And that's what I decided to do. I was going to imitate what that thing was doing because it kept screaming. And so when I started imitating it, it'd scream and I'd scream. We went back and forth with screaming and then pretty soon it stopped.

And then we went ahead and well. off and went on our walk and came back to the camp. And so then I started telling Ori and some of the friends that we were doing the group with that I was getting this thing to scream back with me. And so they started using me every time they go out into, you know, we go out into research, we go out at night. And so they started using me to screen. and I get them, I get them to scream and get them to call back and we get some recording.

Lori, he had taken some of the screams that we had had, and he'd taken them up to, I don't know, some college. And the person on that college had said it was one of the best vocals that he had heard. and so every time I go out I'd scream and get you know callbacks and I believe it was in

1994 my ex and I we went there to the camp we just went during the day just for a we had a couple of friends that were there at the Bigfoot camp

So we just went there for the day just to just to visit with them. And so we go up there and we were talking and then the one guy chance, he had been fishing and he caught a salmon and he had said he had it on ice in the ice chest. And he said something was trying to. to get in his truck because he had a big crew cab, a four-door truck, and he was sleeping in the back seat, but he had that fish up there. He said something was trying to get in the truck, trying to open the door. And they were saying that they believed that could have been one there.

So I went over to this tree that I always screamed. that because I did these screaming for a long time and I realized you got to find a spot that will echo and throw that stream out. And so that's what I did. I had a spot there at that camp that I could scream and throw that out. So that's what I did. I screamed. And this was probably about.

It was the end of summer, probably about September, and it was maybe five o'clock. It wasn't quite, it didn't go dark yet, but it was still light out. And so there was still pretty much light. It wasn't completely, you know, it didn't go dark yet. But anyway, I went over by the tree and I screened, and I got this one to screen back. which I thought, well, you know, which I thought was kind of odd because I thought they only did this at night, you know. So I get this thing to scream back at me and we kind of screamed back and forth toward one another. And then it just stopped.

So I went back over, sat down at the campfire, you know, talked with some, my, friends there and then I thought well I wonder if that thing will start screaming again I think there's like 15 minutes passed and I went back over the tree and started screaming and this thing started screaming back but I can tell it wasn't as high up it sounded like it was like halfway down the mountain this was on the opposite side of the road up top of the hill a mountain up there So it sounded like it was about halfway down. And I screamed, bit screened. We did this for a little bit, and then it just stopped.

You know, maybe about three, four screens, and then it just stops. And so I went back over and I sat back down, started talking to my friends there at the campfire. And then I thought, okay, I'm going to go back over and I'm going to scream again. So I did. I went back over to the tree and I started screaming and it started screaming, but this time it sounded like it was almost by the road. And then it quit screaming. And I went back over again, back by the campfire, and sat down for about another 15 minutes, got up, went back. over to the tree again.

And I started screaming, but I didn't hear anything. So I just continued to stand there. And there was like where the camp sat, there was like a little road, kind of like, you know, a dirt road, the kind of old road that went around by the, where there was that Ranger Station. And off on the other side of that was, it went kind of dropped down a little hill and an embankment. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. The Starbucks iced torchata shaken espresso is back for the summer.

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and then it come up through that embankment, and it got up on that. that little road up there, and I was standing by the tree, we were probably no more than, oh, I'd say about 50 feet, maybe, 25 feet. It wasn't very far, you know, between me and it. And they, and I've had people say, don't, don't stare at them, you know, or don't stare in an animal because when you do a stare off in their eyes and then that, you know, that's not good. but I mean I was terrified and I stared at it it stared at me and then I thought oh I thought man I'm in trouble and I took off running and it took off running after me and I was running up my truck was on the other side of the camp way back on the other side. And so as I took off running, I was watching it while I was running. And this thing, as I turned,

and I was still kept my head turned around watching it. And as I turned to run toward where my truck was at, and as I was watching it, It stopped dead in its tracks because it couldn't turn like what, you know, like what we do. We can turn while we're running. And this thing couldn't turn while it was running. It had to stop to turn. I talked to somebody else on a podcast one time about that.

And he said, that's typical primate. Primate cannot turn while it's running, which I never knew that. And so I ran right past the campfire right past where everybody was all set in at. And I got past them almost to my truck. And I heard all I did was I heard a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And a friend of mine had a, he had a 44 and he shot like five times up over its head. And he said that thing was about ready to run him over, and he said the sixth shot, it turned around and ran back into the woods.

And I think if he hadn't have been there, I think it would have grabbed me and probably tore me from limb to limb. And so I can remember vaguely the color of it was like a redish, brown and it seemed like it had red eyes and that's all i can remember i can't really i can't really remember anything other than i knew it it was on two feet and it stood up tall and i think that what it was is it traumatized me whenever i saw it i knew i was in trouble and you know and it chased me i I think that's the reason why I can't remember. But, you know, the thing of it is, is to me, I provoked it by yelling and screaming

and had it come in there. To me, it was my fault. The things before then had really never bothered us. We'd seen them all the time. We knew they were in the camp, and we knew they were around, but in even screaming at them, get them to scream. And I never knew what these screams meant. But after that time, it's like,

I was kind of, I was kind of afraid to do any more screaming unless I was in front of my truck. with the engine running and I can just jump in there and go if I had to. But that was one of the incidents that I'd seen them.

And then I had a cousin that came from Texas to Oregon and so I thought I would take him up there to that. We didn't go of the camp there was another spot across the bridge and i took him up there just uh you know for a

couple hours just drove up there and uh so i was up there across the bridge and the the road they chopped the road off so you couldn't drive through there so we had to walk and uh so we walked up that hill and I could look off across the Malala River and then there was a road you couldn't see the road but then it was a gravel road because it's paved up to the bridge and then it turns to gravel and across that and ended up a hill

and it was bare up there and so I was just showing him I wanted to show him what we were doing and how I could call for them and stuff. So I was up there and I started calling. These things, there was like three of them. They come out of a big, like, rocky area. And this was probably about four o'clock in the afternoon.

They come walking out of the, or like a gorilla or whatever, they come out of that rocky area and they come around they were kind of like half bend over half walking and some of they were kind of you know kind of like a primate wood they came out and they grabbed a hold of a of a tree and they took that tree and they bent it all the way over

toward the ground then they let that tree go and it was just flapping back and forth one way to the other and they were jumping up and down whatever whatever that stream bent i don't know but they were just having a good old time and i told my cousin i said well we still have about a mile to walk back out of here and i said i'd i got to get out of here because you know after being chased by that one i thought you know and this is this is just

you know too uncomfortable for me so we left at the time I didn't have a camera I wasn't expecting anything I was just you know out there wanting to show him

you know what what we were doing and stuff and uh that was that was uh one incident that we had had we had one incident that my ex and I, we went there to the Bigfoot camp,

and my daughter, she had had a rabbit. And we'd had it in a cage. And the first night, I mean, nothing bothered it. The second night, we kept hearing something trying to get that rabbit out of the cage. And so I got up out of the tent, walked over, grab the rabbit, put it in the tent. And we were telling our friend Ory about it. And then Ory had asked, he goes, can I borrow your rabbit?

He said, I'm going to try to do the same thing, see if I can get one come up on us. And so I let him borrow the rabbit. They took it out there. I wasn't there that night. They did that, but I let them use the rabbit. And they put glow sticks around it. And Ori, he was interviewed by, was it, Matt Moneymaker and stuff, because they were out at some place where they were having a town hall meeting.

and he and or he told him about the rabbit incident. And so if you go on to finding Bigfoot, you see that incident there with the rabbit and everything. That idea, that's what that came from myself and my family. And that area where you'd seem were Matt Moneymaker in them where they did some screaming in that camp. That was the same camp and that I had had that incident happened. I had another incident and this was,

I can't remember when this was, but we were in Estacada, which is it's over from Malala. You've got to go up and over to Estucata. And then again, we were just, my friend and I, Mark, we were just driving around. We just went up to the mountains,

not to do anything searching for Bigfoot. We were just driving around up there. I didn't have my camera. I didn't have nothing. And we stopped, and we were looking. looking down this ridge line and marks like there's something moving down there. And we looked and there was one that come out of the tree line.

It came down by the, you know, where the two, the saddle of the two mountains kind of come in. And it's bare on the one side. So we watched it walk on two legs, and it walked about halfway up that hillside. And we decided, oh, let's just get in the car and go around. And, you know, we try to find that road that's up there because we could see a road up there. So we came around, but that road, it was gated off.

They had a gate over that, so we couldn't go on that road. But we did see it. You know, we were hoping to see it further up there. But that was one time that we had seen that I had experienced one. And then another time, and this was right, I think it hadn't been the,

It was like November, the same year that I'd got chased by that one, but it passed forward to November, I went up there hunting, and I always say Bigfoot going to save me from getting a ticket because I was doing deer hunting, but that was the first day. They closed deer hunting down for elk season. And I wouldn't even thinking about it. I thought it was still, you know, deer season. So I went up there to deer hunt,

which this road that I took off on is just down the road from the Bigfoot camp, probably about a half a mile or not even that. And there's a little road that kind of goes up. And I was up on that road for about. a couple of miles up there. And I drove up there, oh, maybe about 5.30 in the morning. It was still dark. And I pulled over by a tree.

And I stopped there, got out of the vehicle. When it started getting light enough to where I could see to go out to make a stand, I get it out of the vehicle, and I come around to the back end of the car, and I could see the tree, and it must have been standing right by that tree, and I don't know if it was that same one that chased me before or what, because it was up in that same area, but that thing let out of scream and the whole ground vibrated.

And I've never, I've never had known of an animal here in the United States that could screen so loud that it'll make a ground shake. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. The all-new tropical butterfly refresher is now at Starbucks. Dive into juicy guava and passion fruit flavors.

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back home, you know. So I went ahead and went back home. I mean, it scared me. And so I went home, and then that's whenever I looked at the synopsis and realized that it was elk season. And I'm like, oh, I'm glad it turned around and told me to go home because I could have got in trouble, you know. but I know some of a lot of these incidences we never did report them because ory you know he said he wanted to do his research and stuff and he's like you know I don't want people to know our area this is our this is our area and if we start saying anything and Bigfoot society are not big the finding bigfoot people,

you know, they, they were around at that time. And, and, and, or he's like, you know, I don't want any of them to know because if we did, then they would kind of know our spot. And we would, you know, people would come in here and start invading on us and might scare them away or something. So I kind of kept a lot of these things, you know, just within the group.

And, but I mean, this has been, this has been since the, uh, 93, 94 in the middle, middle 90s is when we used to go out. And, um, so anyway, that, that is, that is all my experience that I've had of them. I know there was one time I was up in the woods and we were just, a lot of times we just go up there to camp. I love the mountains. I spent most of my time up there. And we were just on a hike. My family and I and I was hiking down the trail. And then I got off the trail and went down.

to the tree line because I went down there out of the site because I you know I had to go down and use the restroom so I wanted to get down out of the site so I hiked way down to the bottom of there

and there was a coming back up there was a there was a big stick that was laying beside a tree and I was like I wonder why somebody that hiked down here

would leave their stick over there by the tree. So I picked it up and decided I was going to do a tree knock with it. And that tree knock, I mean, it echoed. I mean, you can hear it all around. And, you know, that tree, it made an echo. And so I took that tree, or I took that stick, and I went over to another tree, and I hit it.

And it was just kind of like a thump, you know. It's no echo, just a thunk. I went to another tree, and I did the same thing. And all these trees around, they weren't making any noise. It wasn't carrying out. But I went back to that same tree, and I hit it, and you can just hear it just echo through the wood. woods. And I don't know, but in my thinking, and I thought about it, I'm like, I wonder if that

might have, that stick might have been left there by a big foot because that was, that was a stick they were using to bang on a tree and they, like they, they know what tree to hit to make a noise carry throughout. Just like I kind of figured out going along through there, I kind of figured out you just don't go anywhere and make a scream. You can, but you've got to kind of test the areas. You've got to kind of know a good area to scream at to carry that screen throughout the woods. Because you'll hit a spot that will echo that throughout. And so that's some of our experiences there.

And my goodness, that's some of the most, that's incredible. I had no idea. Any of this was coming from what you had provided. Those accounts are absolutely wild. Thank you for sharing those. It sounds like some of them for the first time. I definitely have a few questions for you. You were in an actual research group, it sounds like.

Are any of the other members of that group still with us? I haven't been in touch with them for a while. I've moved to Texas. And so they're in Oregon, and I haven't heard from any of them in a while. So one of them is Orieneas. And then Mark Santa Scaloski, he was one of the guys. And there was just other ones that would come in that Ori would invite in, you know, that he would get a hold of and invite in.

We had dead stories through Western Bigfoot Society. we did go down there and put down, but we never really did make it known to anybody. We didn't try to put everything out there. And Oriana's and trying to think of what his son's name is

they were the ones that did the interview with that final. and Bigfoot and they did an interview with them. I've done interviews before, you know, kind of not this whole story that I'm telling, but I've done interviews. Like I said, the podcast that I did one time with being chased by the one. And that was like in 2000.

And that guy was the one told me that it was that it was that it sounded like it was primate because of the way that it, you know, it acted. I live in here for a while. I think it was like in 2016. I started talking with this one guy. and he he i think he's got campfire uh tales or something like that um Curtis jones okay and we've become real good friends and and I've known him for a while and I've told him about the story and he'd asked me to uh relate that story but other than that, I really have not gone out and really made it public.

Did you ever go out with any like Peter Byrne or Henry Franzoni or any of those guys? I had Peter Byrne when we first, when we first started realizing that, you know, something was coming around the camp. And we went back in camp there. But we called Peter Burns. And we had him to come out there and check everything out. And he had told us he go, because we did get a picture of a footprint. And he told us, he said, well, I don't think that's what it is. He says, I think it's just too deep.

Somebody running around barefoot. And it's just two feet that merged together and makes it look wide and long. You know, they kind of slid down the hill. And it's like, no, it didn't look like that. It was an actual footprint and didn't look like it slid anywhere. And so we felt, I don't know, I have bad, I had bad things going. you know, with him and with what he was trying to make us look like, like we didn't even know what we were saying or doing out there, you know.

That is unfortunate, but that stuff does happen. Yeah. Now, I do know that those screams that you were, they're in California that happened in the 70s. What's that guy's name? You know, he got the one that they sound like they were talking back and forth. Ron Moorhead, yeah. Ron Moorhead, yes.

And he has been there with us in our group. Ori invited him. Okay. I knew Ron Moore had. And I listened to some of his tapes. We've talked to Ron Moorhead. So that was one person I know that. was a, I didn't know how famous that guy was and I didn't know anything.

You know, I just knew he was coming around, you know, and we'd go out with him. And somebody, or he'd come out with us. And so we would go out at night and that's when we would do our, you know, our investigations. And it was funny there. And it's really. You can try it, and it happens. Ori was telling me that animals do not like red light. It's not that they don't like it.

When they see it, they're not stunned by it. Like headlights, you know, a white light, you know, they get stunned by a deer in the headlights, you know. and so I told Orie I said What if I take some red syliphan And put it over my headlights and make it red And so I did that I bought some

I got up there into the mountains When it was at dark And I took that red sylophane I put it on my headlights and drove around And I'd have dears come out and a deer had come out and just walk right in front of the road right in front of them and kind of look over like you know but it never did phase them they just kind of look like okay there's something over there you know and they'd look my direction but it never did scare them it never did they just you know but if you put red sylphine over your headlights while you're driving around in the mountains and the in the in the dark, you'll see animals just, they're not even faced by those lights at all. So I don't know if you ever heard of that or not, but. No, that's an incredible, I've never heard that,

and I'd be curious if other people have tried that, but that is a really interesting idea, and I like it for sure. Did you guys have a name for your group at all? No, we never had it. We never had a name. We were just, never really had any money to do anything. Orie, you know, he had the money to go out and buy sound equipment, you know, to pick up sound out in the woods. He bought cameras, infrared cameras. And that's how I kind of knew about what he was talking about with the red light.

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Only a doctor can tell you the PPD is a real medical condition with treatment. PPD is not just an adjustment phase. Learn more at treatppd.com. Sponsored by Supernus and Biogen. He said that I think it was the amphibrate. or something like that because he did say

that if he could take a white light from a camera and he can put something red over it that it never bothered them. They would come around. But with that white light, he said they would come around. So that's why I thought,

well, I'm going to put it on my headlights. And so anyway, that's what I started doing there. and so but there's just all sorts of things that you know we've done that I've heard other people talk about you know you can't do this and you know it's at night you know you can only hunt them at night and it's like no I've seen them I've seen them during the daytime you know like yeah like I said I had that one come running in on me. Oh, my goodness.

And chasing. That must have been incredible to experience that. Do you know if anyone still researches that Bigfoot camp area? I have no idea because I've since moved to Texas in 2007. And so, and I have no idea, but I know they probably are. still around there. We used to go down there and it's just like, sometimes we would spend like a week at a time down there

and where they kind of get used to you. You see people come in and they set up a camp and they're only there for a couple of days when they start getting, finally started getting used to you, you know, you pack up and you leave. And that's when the activity starts, starts, you know. If you stay there longer, then once the activity starts ramping up, you know, then, then you're going to, you might, you might not, you know,

there's sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't, but we kind of do that, you know, if we stayed there a little bit longer, we would have more of a chance. And I worked at a job at that time. I worked at driving school buses. So in the summer, I would have off. So I'd spend a lot of my summer there around in that area. And we had one time,

our campers were on the back, of our truck and we went there to that camp, there is that road and it kind of goes down a hill and another little spot. It's not very big, but Mark and I, he had his camper and I had my camper when we were kind of back to back down in there. And we're there at the campfire and sitting around talking and then all of a sudden we had we had stuff being thrown at us from over the camper and it never did scare us this was before I did all that screaming and stuff but I mean even after that it never really bothered me because we just you know figured they were playing with us so we would have rocks and we would

would have things thrown at us and they wouldn't hit us. If they wanted to hit us, they would have. And so then all of a sudden we were sitting there and I mean, it was a big size chunk of log that we

had sitting over there where we had our firewood at. And that thing comes flying over top of us landed between this one lady Mary and I landed right between us. and we just turned around and we just said,

is that all you got, you're going to throw any more? And it never did bother us, you know. But if it wanted to take that log and throw it over top of the camper and hit us, it could have. You know, but we knew that it was just, it had to have been playing because of laying it right in between us, you know. We had pine cones thrown at us and,

and they wouldn't hurt us or anything, you know, it just, you know, if we did have a rock throat at us, it wouldn't hit as hard. And, you know, if they wanted to hurt us, they would have, you know, you could tell it was just playing around. And so, but there was a spot before that big foot camp, There was a spot before getting up there. We camped in there one time.

Mark and I did in my family. And we went down, Mark and I went down to the creek during the day. And when we came back out, something had walked through there because the trees, you can see water was dripping from the trees about 7, 8,000. foot up in the air, you can tell something wet had moved through there. And so Mark and I during the day or during the evening, the night, probably about around 10 o'clock or so, we walked down that little road and back off in that way. And we got chased then by something, we didn't see it.

We can hear it running up after us, and we took off running and went back. to the camp where our camper was at. So it was like there was one down there, but it was aggressive. But the ones up there by the Bigfoot camp, it's like they never did bother us. And so we kind of got to figuring that out too, is that, you know, is that we got to kind of figuring

now too is that there was groups of them in places that were some of them were aggressive and some of them they weren't and I don't know why you know I don't know why some of them were like they wanted to play

around play around and just you know but I've heard people say oh I got pine cones thrown at me and it's like sometimes all they want to do is they just want to scare off from where you're at. They're really, that gun hurt you

unless you provoke them. And that's the thing is like, I got provoked that one time. I mean, I provoked that one, so I can't, that's all on me. You know, and so I like that one that screamed that it shook

the ground. I don't know if that was the same one that chased me or what. or if it was a different one, but that was kind of like it was my indication to leap. And so, you know, I kind of,

we kind of figured that out too. You know, I'm not really, even after being chased, I'm not really that afraid of them, you know. Yeah, it did traumatize me, but it did traumatize me, but I, I, you know, I'm not, I'm not like, I want to go back at.

There's places around. I had a friend of mine just, or one of the guys I worked with said they went to Brokebo, Oklahoma, and they said there's a lot of them there. And I want to go up there here, or either East Texas or over in that area. I want to go over there and try to see if I can find anything. and look for them. You'd be able to find a lot of stuff. I have a few more questions about Oregon.

I know that we've been talking for quite a while, but I do want to make sure I ask these. You mentioned there was a recording of the scream. Do you know anyone who would be in possession of that, or do you think it's probably a thing that might be lost to time? I had one, but I lost it, but Ori might have one. If not, if you were able to get a hold of ORI, if you were to find him, if you were able to get a hold of him, he would tell you, because he had turned those screens and stuff, what he had had had. I think either it was a college in some kind of research place there in Oregon.

Okay. Okay. I'm going to try to track them down. Did you ever have any research that happened in the Oak Ridge area or Willamette National Forest or hear any Bigfoot activity from the Oak Ridge area? Oak Ridge. Where's... That would have been further south. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The Willamette... The Willamette I did. I had

I've had places there because the Willamette National Forest is just right close, you know, to around well, the Malala, the Malala River area, that

that's all I think in I think that's part of the Willamette. I'm not really for sure. I know it's close. I've had experiences up towards, S. Takeda, which is a little bit further over toward the Mount Hood

area. I've had over in there, I've had I've had places over there. Trying to think the Ava fall, which is

over towards Silver Creek Falls in that area. We've gone over there and we've had we've had activity over in there. Tree breaks and trees that were snapped off real high up in there. And Ori and some of their friends, they did a research or whatever.

They went over there and they camped out there in the Albuquerque. And they had one surrounding their camp, and can't remember what he said. He said it got kind of violent over there. So they had to end up leaving. And Mark and I, we went back during the day, and that road was all cut off. It was trenched out,

but we had to walk about a mile back in there where that camp was at, maybe it had, that they had. And we walked back there and it started getting dark. And we started noticing something was over there. And we started walking back and it started falling in us. And then Mark was getting scared and he was saying some, like, I think it's falling in this and this and that.

And I told Mark, I go, just shut up. I said, we still got about a half mile to go to the vehicle. And I said, I don't want to think about it. so I mean the more I thought about it the more my heart was beating you know because I didn't know what this thing was going to do you know so but that yeah that that the apple thought is in like the one national forest area so but there's one last question I want to ask um just because I I need to because I'm kind of a journalist but not really, right? So the Bigfoot camp, is it a thing where you would ever share any more details about, like, is it near a certain recreation area? Because the Malala River is a pretty long river.

Yeah. Would that be anything where you'd be willing to share more information about where the Bigfoot camp is located? Yeah, I'd share on it. Would that be an off-air thing? No, it's where that's at, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's, uh, out by, like outside of Malala, uh, the town of Malala. and kind of go up toward Dickey Ferry, and I think you take the right, and then the road runs off out that way, and there's like another road that splits off. Probably got probably about eight miles down that or up that road until you get to the Bigfoot camp.

So, I mean, it doesn't really bother me any. These, this is like, sorry, this is an unmarked area. I mean, it's not like by a recreation area. This is just you're going on forest roads. Yeah. It's just on forest roads. It's where the Bigfoot area is at, what we call the Bigfoot camp, it's, it's all a paved road.

I mean, it doesn't have any stripes or anything like that, but it's paid. It's just not too far down from that road about a mile, two miles down. It turns into gravel. It splits off by a bridge and it turns into gravel. Okay. Yeah, I see South Dickey Prairie Road. You were saying? Yeah.

Interesting. Well, maybe there'll be someone who knows the area well enough to use that information to check it out. I don't know. We'll see. Yeah. But yeah, I appreciate you sharing that. And if there are people already checking out that area, I'd love to talk to you as well. But, yeah, this has been an incredible chat.

I mean, I guess since you're the only person I've ever talked to who has been chased by a big foot and survived, would you consider these creatures to be more like an ape creature or some kind of human creature? What was it that you got from them while they were chasing you? to me, they more like a big ape or like a big ape or something like that. Like I said, I never really

I never really got a full look in there in that one space would have chased me because I think I was more traumatized that really get full detail of what it looked like. And so

but I see them as being a big primate is what I see on this man. Gotcha. Well, you have some fascinating accounts, and I'm so glad that I talked to you, Ed, really are. I mean, you reached out out of nowhere, and I'm glad you did.

If you do remember any more information or any other things that you want to share at a later time, I would love to talk to you again. But thank you so much. And if you ever have any, you know, questions about Oklahoma or Texas, I do have some information about that. We can always talk later about that. But that would be fun if you were able to get involved down where you're at now. Yeah.

Well, thanks a lot for the interview and everything. I appreciate, you know, being able to do this and everything. Yes, sir. And I'll be in touch. I'll let you know if I'm able. I'm going to try to track down this ori guy. We'll see if you're still around. I'll let you know.

All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you for chatting today, Ed. You have a good one. All right. You too. Bye.

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