Bigfoot Society - Cherokee Bigfoot of Northeast Oklahoma

Episode Date: September 22, 2023

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, I welcome Yahola Tiger from the War Cry Podcast. Yahola is a member of the Cherokee Nation and also has Muscogee (Creek) descent.Yahola is a wealth of knowledge about Oklahoma and we discuss everything from Bigfoot to Dogman to Giant Snakes and Octopus and maybe even a Hyena or two.Resources:War Cry Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/war-cry-podcast/id1654393763Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4OiC6FRTUur1fOVsKKQCva?si=d3c0cc7459b3475eContact Yahola Tiger on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100071728809938Cryptids of the Corn Hyena Episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5KUwcqF9ieWH486F4E7x8j?si=296d3c79adf9426eWATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzECall the Bigfoot Society BIGFOOT ENCOUNTER hotline! Have you seen a Sasquatch and would like to get what happened “off your chest” but don’t have time for an interview? NOW YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR TIME AND SHARE IT WITH THE WORLD! Share it here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsocietyTo unlock more bonus content and much more, become a supporting member of Bigfoot Society by joining the Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyBecome a Youtube Channel member here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinSupport Bigfoot Society one time by buying me a coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety To pick up a Bigfoot Society shirt, stickers and more, check out our merch by heading on over to https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietySend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165 Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!”If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! —— Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR —— My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card. https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsocietyIf you want an amazing website like Bigfoot Society has that is extremely easy to set up and connects to your podcast in an incredible way then check out Podpage. https://www.podpage.com/?via=jeremiah (Use this affiliate link and you help out Bigfoot Society)

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All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Yoholla Tiger. He's the host of the War Cry podcast, and he's a member of the Cherokee Nation and also of Muskegee Creek descent. How's it going tonight, Yohola? I'm pretty good, man. I'm just, you know, hanging out, doing, you know, just doing, you know, doing stuff, spooky stuff. You know, kind of, I love talking about spooky stuff. So, you know, that's why we're here.

But I appreciate you having me. Oh, absolutely. I've been wanting to talk to you for a while, so I'm glad that this finally worked out. And you're also from the great state of Oklahoma, correct? Beautiful, yes, beautiful state of Oklahoma. Born and raised, Cherokee Res, you know, lived a lot of my life on the Cherokee Res. And then, you know, moved my way over to my other side to my Muskogee Creek side. And, yeah, Oklahoma, man.

You know, all, you know, all different types of things going on. But yeah, man, it's a beautiful place. Fantastic. And a lot of my listeners will know that about Oklahoma, because they know more of probably the southeast section. There's some wild Bigfoot stuff that goes on over there. But if you could let us know contact-wise or context-wise, what part of the Oklahoma, you know, on a map? Are we talking more western side, eastern, whereabouts? We're in, so I'm from northeast Oklahoma.

That's kind of, so Talaquil is the capital of the Cherokee Nation, and it's located, I'd say, probably about 30 minutes from the Arkansas border up in kind of up in the northeast Oklahoma. It's people, people, you know, that's one thing too that I guess people don't really, you know, they really don't, I don't want to say give the Northeast, credit, but there's a lot of, there's a lot of woods, a lot of hills up in the northeast. And so there's all types of stuff going on in, in northeast Oklahoma. Absolutely. How far away from the Wachitas area?

Man, that's a great question. I'm going to have to pull out my, my ninth grade geography book. I would say, well, so that's what, I'm thinking probably maybe an hour and a half, maybe. all right maybe more man like I said my geography is not is not what it used to be it's cool it's cool

the northeast I've talked to a lot of people from southeast of course I've talked to a gentleman from the west the western Oklahoma has some crazy stuff too but now it sounds like we may have some action going on

in the northeast as well but we were talking earlier and we're talking about that you have had some you've heard of some bigfoot related things over the years and you know we've mentioned already that you're a member of the Cherokee nation has have you grown up then hearing about big foot over the years or when did that start to kind of come into your your life that you remember

man it's it's been my entire life um you know my first um my first thought and my first really core memory of Bigfoot was I might have been six or seven years old. My dad, so if you guys, if people are listening, when you're driving into Talakwal, on the right-hand side, there's a big old casino now. Well, back, you know, 25 years ago, it used to just be a pasture. And there used to be a golf course on the other side of that, of that pastor. And I remember one of my first stories I ever heard as a young buck was, my dad's best friend was driving home one night.

And he kind of saw something up on the right hand side of the road. He looked. He said, what is that? Well, he just kept driving. He's probably a deer. I'll slow down.

And so he, you know, kept coasting and he eventually passed this, you know, what he could see. It was just so dark. There's no lights out there. And when he hit his brakes,

when he was passing this, this thing, all he saw was a, was a hairy arm and basically a hairy. a hairy, I'd say maybe a quad. And he hit his brace and that light hit it. And that thing scurried off into that pasture. And, you know, he didn't see anything, but he took off.

You know, one thing about that story that, you know, has come full circle now 2020, 2020, 23. I talked to my dad's best friend. I said, hey, you remember telling me that story when I was a little guy? And he goes, no, I don't really remember that. He's like, when did I tell you that? I said, you told me, you know, one time we were, you know, all hanging out and you were, you know, playing guitar with my dad. And he goes, I don't remember that.

And about, about it. He goes, yeah, man, he's like, I sat and thought about that. I do remember that. Because now that road is, you know, is a heavily traveled road and it's not really secluded like it used to be. But, you know, in, you know, Cherokee Nation, you know, and I don't want to speak for all Cherokees. I don't want to speak for all creeks either. They're all, you know, really tribes in general. but, you know, there's different types of these things.

And there's some that make you forget. And I'm not going to say the name because if you say the name, you're going to call it. But they make you forget. And sometimes almost like men in black where they hit you with that thing and you're like, your mind's erased and then you have, you know, you don't remember. And he goes, I think that's what happened to me because he's like, I'm so scared. You know, I just don't remember, you know,

And then I guess he traveled down that road or I don't know how he remembered. But then he was like, man, I remember that. He said, that thing had to be like nine foot tall because, you know, he was sitting in this car. And, you know, all he saw was basically a thigh. You know, if you see a thigh in the windch in the back glass, you know, that has to be pretty tall. And but, you know, there's all types of those stories that come around in that area. and to kind of, you know, be long-winded, that's kind of how we are, you know, as just kind of Indians would be like that.

But, you know, it's, I've been, I've been hearing stories and I've experienced things in my life where, you know, it's, it's been my entire life. Youhole, I want to go back to something you said really quick. And I don't want to go too deep into it because it's obvious that we don't want to, but I do want to address it. It says, you said, something to the effect of we don't want to call it. And can you explain what that means without, I guess we don't want to do what it is that you would refer to, but kind of what that would

mean where we don't want to call it? So what I mean by is, so there's multiple things that Sasquatch and Bigfoot could do, that we as, you know, human beings sometimes don't understand understand. Trying to put this in a context that makes this digestible, I guess you could say. But essentially what they can do is, you know, there's always been this Native American medicine or magic or shamanism is what some people out West call it. They do those things too. And it's a superstitious thing. But when you talk about these things, there's a certain energy that comes with that.

It's like an intention thing. But when you talk about, and that's why when we talk about a lot of things in Native culture, we'll use, like, we'll use, and I'll say the name because I'll smoke off after this. And by the way, smoke off means with cedar and things like that for people that don't know those things. you know, you know, Dr. Cedar. But, wait, wait, wait, wait, is this going to affect the listeners, though? No, no, no, no, no. It's a, okay, okay.

Yeah, no, no, I mean, it shouldn't. Now, I'd always, if any time you, anytime that someone's talking about different things, I, you know, especially when it comes to Bigfoot, even talking about Bigfoot, you know, you're still talking about him, you know, you could, you know, still, you know, do what you got to do. you know, I do my certain things, people do their own things, you can pray, but, um, but that's kind of what I mean by that was, is when you use their name, there's a certain, you know, old way, uh, name that you use. Um, I know the Creek name and, and, um, and, you know, they, they can, they can come into your dreams, you know, they can come, you know, in physical,

you know, there's just different ways that, that, that, you know, these things can come to you. And like I said, and it could be anything, too. It could just be, it could just be energy. You can just have bad luck, you know,

just, and it's, you know, and I'm really talking generally. I know there's probably some people out there like, oh, he's talking crazy right now. But,

but yeah, that's kind of what I mean by, by, you don't want, we don't want to call it by its name. I absolutely understand. Yeah. I definitely want to respect that.

In your area of Oklahoma and the northeast, have you found that most Sasquack sightings will occur around the reservation, or is it kind of, it's all over the place? It doesn't have to be specifically just in the actual reservation area. Well, I mean, so all the reservations, so there's, like I said, there's a five civil lives that take up the eastern part of the state. I don't want to get political or anything, but I just, you know, that's just kind of. how that's divided up, you know, and now what, you know, kind of federal type things going on, but it happens all over the place. You know, I have heard stories from different people up in kind of northern, I'd say probably north central kind of, I'd say probably north of Oklahoma City.

You know, there's been stories up there of them kind of hanging out around, you know, at a powwow. You know, they'll be at the tree line or at the stump grounds. They'll be out there because a lot of those grounds, especially stomp grounds are near water. You have to, you know, you got to make sure you have water around when you're doing those things. And, you know, a lot of people say that they travel by water. And there's different various opinions on that. But like I said, they're all over the place, you know, in Oklahoma.

I think I tried to ask somebody, you know, of elder. I said, how many, how many think there is? And they gave me, you know, a number like a thousand or something like that. And I was just like, man, that's kind of a lot. Like, that's kind of a lot. But, you know, I've, I have people that reach out to me, you know, about every week, you know, telling me, hey, I saw something over here in Concho, Oklahoma, or I saw something over here in Anadarko, or I saw something over here in Hugo, you know, it's all over the place here in Oklahoma. Oklahoma has incredible Bigfoot stories. And I'm not going to mention the name of the group,

but man, there's this one Facebook group about like Oklahoma Bigfoot stories. Oh my goodness. It's a smaller one. And if you're in it, you know what I'm, you know what I'm referring to. Because it's kind of like it's a fight club type thing if you're in it. But oh, man, you guys have some wild stuff down there.

do you think there's a reason what you know Oklahoma just it feels like there's so much um I don't know how to say I would say you know like maybe aggressive Sasquatch stories or sightings do you think there's a reason why there's so many in that state or is that something. you've ever thought about? I mean, I have, you know, I've heard some pretty aggressive encounters. Just here in the last, I'd say, probably month, I was told a story about out in kind of in Adarko, Oklahoma. And a guy was, you know, he had his animals out there and he had shot at it. And this thing had killed every single, and it killed after it shot it, the next morning he went out there and every single one of his animals was gone.

perished. And I also wonder if it correlates with kind of how Oklahoma is, just in general, how we kind of are, you know, we kind of, we kind of aggressive people a little bit, you know, if you, you know, if you, if you treat us, you know, treat people with respect, you're going to be all right. But once it comes to, you know, disrespecting people, you know, it can get physical or it can, and I'm wondering if those things kind of mimic that energy, you know, with. people come in, you know, like all the time, this land that hasn't been touched in a lot of years or ever, maybe, is being inhabited by people with a lot of money.

And they're moving up to these hills and these mountains and, you know, some of these valleys. And, you know, just speaking from experience, there was a guy out in Eufaula who bought some land at the bottom of this infamous. place that is known for Bigfoot. Like it's known. There's catacos, there's like, it's not catacombs, but it's more like caves. But there's caves out there and there's kind of this little cliff, you know, I don't want to say the name, but it's out in the fall area. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors.

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Everything happens for a Reese's. But he bought land out there and, you know, I'm always wondering if he's all right, you know, because he's like, man, you bought land and, you know, you, you inhabited a place that no one has ever inhabited. And I often wonder if that's the case, too. So that's very intriguing to me. That's an area that I don't think has come up yet. And it's, you know, I'm looking at it up on a map and it's so interesting because, well,

Well, if you look up, you follow Oklahoma, it's almost like on this peninsula in the middle of this huge lake. It's just, it's a really interesting area. I need to look more into that. Well, you follow, you follow lake is man made. And one thing that, I mean, I know, like I said, I know this is a Bigfoot show, but, you know, there's been talks of an octopus in there, a red octopus in that lake. I know I have plenty of stories of people talking about giant snakes in that lake, you know, you know, mythical, I guess you'd say mythical, but, you know, in our native culture, you know, there's big snakes in there. A lot of it, too, I think, was when they made that lake, there was a lot, a lot of stomp grounds down there.

and there was a lot of habitat that these beings, these creatures inhabited. And, you know, when you, when you kind of take over nature, nature is going to, you know, kind of do something. You know, at my uncle's property out in you follow. There was one time we were talking about these things out there. We were having, we were telling stories because that's how we taught. that's how we kind of communicate lessons and, and, you know, different stories and is by talking about some, these things sometimes and trying to, you know, tell people to act right.

And we were all out there and we're talking and people telling stories and, and something big ran through, I mean, mowing down all this brush and these trees. and it's thick out there. You know, and it came right up to the tree line, and it was dead quiet. There was not a single sound in that whole clearing. It was like no birds, nothing, no crickets. It was like the alpha, it was like the alpha predator came

and was, you know, heard its name being called. And it, you know, had to see what was going on. But, you know, that's one thing that's, you know, I think when it comes to that area and it comes to, Like Northeast Oklahoma, like I mentioned, you know, it's, it's very, very intriguing to me. That's why I can, I continue to gather stories and information. And, you know, I'm so intrigued by, by Bigfoot. Oh, absolutely.

And this is something you've mentioned a few times. And I'd like you to kind of take a few minutes to to define what it means, because I'm just not familiar with the term. And there might be some listeners as well. Can you define what the term stomp grounds means? So it's ceremonial grounds. So stomp grounds kind of slang, but, but it's ceremonial grounds. And so ceremonial grounds are in specific areas and kind of an origin story, especially for the creeks. Back in the old days, when we were being removed, we had fire.

And the fire guided us to our home here in Oklahoma. and there were certain selected people in the tribe that would basically follow that fire and catch that fire so you know so we didn't lose you know who we are and you know that goes into a whole different other thing but wherever that fire landed you had to you had to harness it and you had to make sure it was taken care of and wherever it landed is where your grounds were or your ceremonial grounds, which is for your, your, um, praising the creator and, and thanking the creator for what you, you know, what you've done and you're, you know, or asking for healing or whatever needs to be done in those, in those times.

That's, that's so interesting. It has, uh, parallels to, uh, Old Testament almost. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, that's one thing. It's just so intriguing about history, man. It's like, almost like it kind of repeats itself almost a little bit. Yeah. or it almost has a similar story but in different fonts. Yeah, yeah. It's so, so weird, the more you look into things and more that you look into different cultures. And yeah, that could be a whole other discussion.

So talking about the stomp ground, so you're saying that when they created that lake, they took over some stomp ground. So I could definitely understand how that could be. That is a terrible thing to do. But you mentioned the giant snakes. So how large were these snakes that were being seen in this lake? Anywhere from the size of a worm to the size of a, I don't know, maybe 50 feet. I'll tell you a very interesting story.

So I have a cousin who he's kind of. of funny, but he's real big into, he probably listening to the show, hey cousin, what's going on? I was playing. Hey, cousin. But he was on Google Maps. And you know how sometimes you can kind of, you know, get real close and see things and you can kind of see outlines. Well, the drone or whatever, whoever takes those pictures of that Google Maps caught one of those snakes going into the, the, the lake.

And, you know, he was trying to do the pencil markers, and it was just the, just the back end of the snake was like 22 feet, you know, as he was kind of trying to figure it out. But these snakes have power. They have, how I say, this is one of my favorite, I think a lot of it, my favorite mythic, my favorite being, my native being that I love to talk about is these, are these snakes. Born and raised in Talak, Oklahoma, we have the Illinois River. and these things are known to cause floods. And the Illinois has flooded multiple times because of people not taking care of that water.

The same thing with you follow. That lake has flooded multiple times over the years because people just aren't taken care of it. But what these snakes are is they are the king of the water. They take care of the water. They make sure people take care of it. And when it's not being taken care of, they take matters into their own hands. one thing about Oklahoma, I'm sorry, we're deviating off, man. No, let's go for it. We're good, man. Let's go.

And one thing that is very well known here in Oklahoma is there's a lot of drownings. You know, and that's one thing that, you know, I see the newspapers all time. Like, oh, how does people keep drowning? Oh, they must be just drinking too much. But it's strange that it's a lot of kids, younger people. you hardly ever see anybody old, you know, drowning. Maybe someone in their 30s. Maybe that's not really that old. But, but, you know, that's one thing that people credit these snakes.

And I do personally to take in these people because maybe, you know, not saying it's sacrifice, but, you know, that's the game you play when you disrespect nature in the water. Absolutely. It's not a thing that you get multiple chances. with you got to respect it for sure. Speaking of the water, you also mentioned the octopus. Is that, you know, you hear people talk about the Oklahoma octopus. Is that the same thing or is this a different thing?

Same thing. And crazy story that I heard from somebody out of, out of you follow. And I've also heard kind of murmurs about, I think it's Thunderbird Lake, I think is the other one that I've heard things from. but I had I had somebody tell me that basically they saw one run across the road, this major highway, broad daylight, it was a small one, which I thought, I mean, I was like, that's kind of crazy. You know, I don't, you know, do you believe it? You know, sometimes you kind of like people will just, you know, maybe just try to tell

your story to get on a podcast. I don't know, but I thought it was pretty interesting. But the Oklahoma octopus has been around for, you know, quite a long time. There was a guy, and I cannot remember his name at the top of my head, but he had been investigating this and, you know, they've also attributed a lot of these drownings and all these lakes to being that, that creature, that being. And when I say being, you know, it's a, it's, it's, it's more than just a creature is what I'm, is what I'm getting to. It's more, it's more of like, you know, people kind of talk about these, you know, mythical beings or these mythical,

entities and that's kind of what I'm referring to. If you ever hear me, when I say being, these things are not of this world or they're not of the normal world that we know. Totally understand. When you, so when you refer to Sasquatch, the thing about the show is that there's many different viewpoints about what the creature is.

And I'd like to think that we, I talk to many different viewpoints through people. When you're referring to Bigfoot yourself, what is in your mind or what's your definition of the creature when you're referring to Bigfoot? Man, that's a, so that's a great question. I've asked people that same question, and I always find it very intriguing. My opinion of it, though, is kind of, it's kind of a weird one. So I think that they are, I think that they are a, and I don't want to say a set of people. And I don't, not human is what, it's not what I'm trying to say.

A lot of Cherokees believe that they're a secret tribe and that they exist when they want to, when they want to be seen. and they want to be known that they're there. A story that I had come across as a young guy. So I used to go to a cultural camp during the summertime at Sequoia High School in Talakwa. And I heard a story from an elder that he said that they look like humans, but they are just hairy and they got beards, but they're like super tall. he described this this Sasquatch or this big foot

to being about nine foot tall with a beard it looked like a human face but it had a beard and he called it a person and when I you know growing up in my mind I envisioned that

and I think of I think of you know if they are people or if they're interd I know there's a theory out there that they're interdimensional beings I know that people think that they're possibly

a shape-shifter or I've heard that you know I've heard different things and in my opinion I think that they're I think that they're another set of you know like a tribe and it's not a people it's a tribe of beings like they do that they they they have ways in methods to remain undetected and I go back to talking about like native medicine or native magic or shamanism. You know, I'm Native American, but I don't practice that stuff. I don't practice those things. Much like, and I have that same thought when it comes to Sasquatch is not all of them

practice the ability to disappear. Not all of them practice the ability to look like a stump. You know, like some stories you hear, oh, people's, you know, I heard a story one somebody basically sat on it and didn't even thought it was a stump they were just kind of hiking the next day you know the stump was moving you know i you know i you know i believe that they if they want to be seen they will be seen and they use these different methods in these different old ways is what i call it but it's like you know these herbs and these um use different you know methods you know to be seen or not to be seen so i think that they're

I think that they are of this world, but it's hard to describe, you know, what's of this world, you know. Absolutely. Do, you know, the stories that you've heard from your area and you've talked to many different people over the years, are, are Orbs ever parts of those stories? Is that a thing that ever comes up down in Oklahoma? Yes. I've heard, I've heard a lot of stories. A lot of stories about orbs. Everyone wants everyone, the famous one here in Oklahoma is out in Miami.

It's called the spook light, but it looks like a light kind of that travels around. In Northeast Oklahoma, my dad has actually seen it looks like a fireball. But it dances. It looks like a person walking or, you know, if someone was running and it looked, you know, it kind of makes that movement. and Old Cherkees believe that it's the souls of people that are watching over things. And they left their soul there to maybe guard something. You know, who really knows what it's really, you know, for.

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but I'm going to share it to you. I have heard stories that these orbs kind of dance around maybe Barry Treasure or some type of fortune. And I have heard stories of Bigfoot or Dogman protecting this treasure. I have heard those stories. Maybe it's treasure or something from like 1600. Who knows? Who knows what it is?

But I have heard, you know, I have also heard Bigfoot being associated with these orbs as well. So, I mean, but at the end of the day, you know, people see the orbs and they're like, okay, I see an orb in the middle of this pasture. You know, what's going on, you know, or what's happening? You know, we don't really, there's no, there's no explanation. But the old, the old elders believe that it's possibly the soul of people past gone that's protecting their wealth or, you know, or it could be that they're just trying to find another way maybe to go to the other side. I mean, who, I mean, it's very interesting, though. Can you tell me anything more about Bigfoot guarding a buried treasure? That's an extremely new one for me.

That's really interesting. Yeah, I mean, it's, I'm just trying to figure out how to describe that. Because when I was told that story, basically somebody was supposed to, somebody was digging up. Basically, they had figured out that there were some type of, basically they followed the orb, essentially is what the story was cold and they dug it up and when they looked over there was a saskwash there growling out of now now he said it was made to be protecting i you know i don't really i i just use protecting as like hey you know like when you hear that it's like hey it's probably time to get out of here you know i probably shouldn't be be doing you know be trying to you know collect this uh this treasure

or whatever this you know this fortune is or whatever he was trying to look for that's just very interesting. That's why I haven't heard a lot of those stories, but I, but I'm very, you know, if anyone out there, hey, if you got one of those, let me know. Yeah, absolutely. I just wanted to clarify that because I was like, man, I don't, I don't want it to start like a, oh, ESR, nor there's going to be, it's like the new leprechaun and the rainbow, you know. Yeah, no. Who knows, but. No, I just, I just, I just had a, like that, that, that, that story is, you know, I heard that story, you know, years ago, but they basically followed it, you know, that, that, that flame and it brought them to basically it kind of did like a circle or whatever you know kind of a weird

like it was in a pattern essentially and you know they noticed that it kind of stopped at a certain location and it moved to the next and so they really you know like said it's an older story so you know it could have just been coincidence like you know i know a lot of people you know see aliens with with bigfoot you know that's another thing i've heard but i haven't heard much on on on on the alien part but i have heard a few times of like um you know people seeing that flame and then they hear footsteps behind them you know or something running through the woods um you know i have i have heard that too as well my dad actually was out and kind of you know i'm kind of name dropping some of these towns but um my dad i think he was out at holbert and heard heard

something like that was all an orb and then you know heard something that was kind of weird but nothing nothing ever approached him he just he heard something you know know out with that orb so and all I mean it also could be too that you know maybe bigfoot's trying to find that treasure too or whatever that is out there oh yeah it's it's it's such an awesome start to a like a story it's it's it's it's so cool like the buried treasure of bigfoot in oklahoma and like dude i'm loving it um so let's let's pretend like yeah let's say we're in your your area of Oklahoma and Northeast. We're at a campfire.

And, you know, there's maybe, maybe some people are there. They're starting to get to get older. They're older than kids now. They're getting into junior high, maybe high school. And so the older individuals are like, okay, it's time to tell them the story about Bigfoot that is, you know, we kind of, we all knew about it. And now these kids are old enough to know. Are there any stories like that that are passed around the campfires up in your area? Yes.

Yeah. I mean, yes and no. You know, a story, I remember being kind of like you mentioned, you know, we experienced that the one that was running through this brush coming towards us, you know, while we were sitting around telling stories. another story that you know kind of spooks me out to this day it's out in park hill Oklahoma it's a little bit outside of tallaqua Oklahoma and my dad at the time was a young guy he just you know he was living with my grandpa at the time

and he lived next to this park it's called Murrow Home Park you know it's about you know I'd say probably mile a half from his house and it was real you know kind of a hot night and, you know, with old, you know, old Indian houses, you know, especially old Indian heads. They're like, no, we ain't not turning that AC on. We're going to keep it, keep it steaming in this house. So he had to open the window. And my dad is laying there. And I'm, and being in mind, I've never told this story publicly, but I'm, but, you know, this is, this is a, this is a good time to tell it. And he's laying there in bed. And he hears something jump over the fence.

And it makes this sound, like the creaking sound. And he, he, he hears these large footsteps coming up to the window. And he's laying there and he's like, what is that? And it lets out this, like a horse, you know, like a horse would, you know, make this kind of huffing sound. It was real deep. And my dad sat there and he was, he was sitting there and he's getting real, kind of like, what is this?

You know, what is going on? And it kind of made that huffing noise again. and he heard the creaking of the fence. So either it opened the fence or he opened the gate because it was kind of one of those little latch gates that you could just flip up and open, or it jumped the fence and it took back off where he was going.

You know, that area is a very spooky area and it's got a lot of things going on. And, you know, in that area, when I was a young guy, I'll tell you, my, my, I think, you know, my encounter with, I think, I believe it was one of these, you know, creatures, one of these beings. You know, we used to, I used to take my friends out to this park and spook them out because I know how to get the spookies going. And, you know, in this park, there's these trails that go up into this kind of hill area.

And it's in the, it's pitch black. You can't see, you know, anything. Tree cover. No, you can't see any of the star. cars. And I'm messing with them, you know, you're never supposed to hoot. I was always told never to hoot. But I'd mess with them.

You know, they're, you know, they're white folks, you know. I'm like messing with, you know, like to show them that, you know, I know a few things. You know, I'm Indian, you know, I can, you know, summon these things and just kind of, you know, have a little ego about it. And I made that mistake. So we come back off the bridge. And I go, hey, we'll stop real quick. I'm a hoot three times and watch, see what happened.

I hoot the first time. Everybody goes, hey, all right, man, hey, okay, hey, we got to, we get the point. You're trying to scare us. We get it. I hoot a second time. And they're like, no, hey, okay, okay, hey, you know, you hold on. Okay, chill out, chill out. It's cool.

When I hoot that third time, under this, you know, when you go over that bridge, there's underpass that you can walk down to underneath that bridge. And there was a roar came from under that bridge. And it was, I always equated to King Kong's roar, but it was, it was, it hits you. It hit me. And when it roared, I blacked out. Be in mind, I'm going to describe the people than I'm with. I'm with two 6-6-350-pound guys. I'm the last person in the back, closest to the car.

After that third hoop, and we hear that roar, and I black out, those big boys were in the car in two seconds, took off, and I come back into my mind, you know, all the way, and we're halfway,

we're already almost home, and my mind comes back. and I think what we ran into that night was one of those ones that make you forget because I don't remember from the time that I hooted that third time to hearing that roar to when we were almost halfway home. And, you know, to this day, I still have those people that say, man, I don't know why, you know, that was the craziest thing I've ever heard. I've never heard anything that made me feel that way.

You know, it's almost like if you were face to face with a lion and it roared in your face and you're just like checked out. And I spoke with one of them with one of my uncles or with my uncle and he goes, yeah, he's like, you ran into the ones that, the one that makes you forget. He said, you played. He said, what did you do before? I said, I told him when I did. And he goes, yeah, that's what happens.

So, yeah, that's a, that's my personal story that I've run into. That's out in Park Hill, Oklahoma at Murrow Home Park. It's a museum out there. It's a, it's, the park is shut down now. There was a lot of things that happened with some people passing away out there. I don't want to say the word. And then there were some other things that, that happened out there. But another story, this has, this happened back in the 90s at the same, at that same park.

I had an uncle of mine, he had shared this story with me because he had heard my story. and he was a young guy. He was out there with my other uncle and some friends, and they were doing some teenage things, you know, wild and out kind of just, you know, doing their thing. And cops come. So they're hiding up in those trees. And those trees, you can kind of climb up them because they're all kind of low.

But you can get up there real high in that tree. And those cops are trying to find them. And eventually those cops decided to kind of, you know, not mess with them. And they went on. Well, there's these trash cans out there that are really heavy. And some of them are bolted to the ground. Some of them are not. But they're like hard metal heavy trash cans.

And my uncle said when they got down, something through. And the trash can might have been 300 pounds, threw it like a pebble at them from over there by that bridge. Through it at them. And it almost hit them. They were like, man, we got to get out of here. What was that? You know, like, what just threw that at us?

And they took off. And that was, you know, something that, you know, was shared to me here recently. I had never heard that story. And my uncle heard my story and said, hey, I, you know, had the same thing. Something similar to me, happened to me at that park. But, you know, but growing up, you know, I'd always hear these stories of, you know, people, you know, seeing these things. And as I've gotten older, you know, I think with age, people kind of say, hey, I'm going to tell you this story. And, you know, with the podcast, people, you know, will tell me their old school stories.

And that's one thing I love about doing is hearing these stories. But, yeah, that's a few stories that, you know, I've shared around a campfire, but I've also had shared to me in that way, too. Hold of that is incredible that you had that experience. So are you making a noise like an owl, like that type of thing? It's like one of the, yeah, it's one of those. So the backstory on that is, is my grandpa did the same thing to some people when he was in college. Or he had a cousin that did the same thing. But essentially, and this is, and I'm getting goosebumps telling the story, but I'm going to tell you.

what he hooted when he did that hoot sound there was laughter in those trees at that park and it was like maniacal laughter and you know that's where that's where that's where that's where that's where I got that idea to do that I was like well I'm going to see if something happens I'm going to mess with I'm going to real mess with these people but one thing about like I said when you call these things when you call these beings and these entities you're usually the one that has to pay the piper

and that's why, you know, that's why I kind of stepped away from the investigation side of that because, you know, I used to go out and, you know, I, you know, at one point, you know, I was trying to find a cult in a small town here in Oklahoma. I was finding animal bones, you know, like animal carcasses and all this stuff. But that's a story for another time. Maybe we'll talk about that another time. But, but yeah, man, it's, you know, that's the kind of the backstory behind, um, uh, um, uh, behind those, that hooty. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. What if you could get more from what you already do?

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Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to height and taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a Reese's. That's incredible. Yeah, the cult ones for another time. What was the name of that park again that you had the two incidents were happening at, just for my notes? Merle Home Park. So it's, so it was, I think it's owned by the Cherokee Nation, actually. But it's basically the park is named after the house that's at the edge of the road. And that house, I think you can go and visit it and it's haunted.

I mean, it's truly haunted. Like, I remember being a young guy seeing video camera footage of things moving in the house, like a full, like chair moving across the floor of the house. I was like, man, that's kind of crazy. Got it. Merle Home Park in Park Hill. Correct? Yep, yep, sir.

Totally got it. Oh, that's very, very interesting. I feel like there might be some listeners that also have some stories from that area. Feel free to contact me, Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Also, we'll have, I'm pretty sure we'll have Yohoa's contact info in the show notes for this as well. we'll ask him later on that. Yohola, I know that you've probably chatted to people from all over the state of Oklahoma. Just curious, have you ever talked to anyone that's had any interesting stories from like LaFleur County or like Honubi or anything like that?

I know. So I've had somebody tell me, and I don't know exactly where Garfield County is. I had to look, I mean, if you, I can't exactly know where that's at. But I had a lady reach out to me about a time when she was a little girl in Garfield County back in the early 70s, I believe. She was a little girl. And this is an old, she's an older lady now. But she was telling me a story about a time she was walking on the train tracks kind of close to dark. And she looked behind her and there was a, it was basically a Sasquatch falling her on the train tracks.

And when she looked back, it was walking. behind, like it was, you know, it wasn't close, but it was you could see it. You know, she could see it the outline of it was big. And then when she looked, it darted back into the, the tree line and then it followed her all the way down to where she was going. Then she got home and they took off and went home. You know, a story that I had, I had heard, um, you know, kind of in the Honubi area is my grandpa used to do a lot of hunting up in the Kaimichi mountains. And it wasn't really like, encounter, but it was more of like the whole entire area where he was at with his buddy

went dead quiet, like could hear a pin drop. Like, you know, any movement you could hear something. And he thought it was odd, and he had coon dogs. But I haven't really heard much of Lafour County. I know that there's some history with the chalk tolls out there. I know that there's a famous, I think there's a famous story about, I think it's the Chok Taws. Basically, you know, they went in and had basically a war with these Sasquatch or these Bigfoot. And I think only one person survived to tell the story at all these guys that went down there to take on this clan.

And I know that story has been around for a lot of years. fascinating I can tell so you are a awesome guest because you have a wealth of knowledge about this this state it's incredible

so I might just start throwing some random things at you and see if anything hits because I can't have this type of conversation with everyone have you ever heard any stories about hyaena's being seen in Oklahoma.

So it depends on what the description is. I'll tell you, so this is kind of a weird story. And so I used to Uber when I, when, when I was needing some extra money back when I was a younger guy, this might have been about five, six years ago. And I was out, this is in Bigsby, Oklahoma where this took place. And I was, you know, I got a. you know, Dean, and I went down into, once you cross the river

going into Bigsby, when you're going south into Bigsby, if people are in that area or listen, there's a road that takes you next to the river that goes on down. There's a bunch of nice homes out there. And I had basically I picked

these two girls up at the end of the road, and I could tell that something was off with them. I was like, they look kind of, you know, frazzled, I guess you could say. And you know, me being, you know, conspiracy guy and, you know, I love cryptids and, you know, I'm into the spooky stuff and, you know, I like to hear these things. And so I'm just driving and I'm not saying anything.

I got the music on. You know, I'm just kind of, but I'm overhearing this, these two girls talk about them seeing this weird looking dog about the same, not, I wouldn't say about the same size of the car, but it was a little smaller. and she goes, they were like sitting there talking about it. And they were like, man, that dog looked weird. It kind of looked like a hyena. Kind of looked weird.

It didn't look like a dog. What do you think that was? And they're sitting there back there talking and describing this thing sounding. And to me, in my first thought, I thought it was, you know, maybe a dog man. And I still kind of think it might be. But the way they described it was like a hyena kind of looking thing. and because it wasn't bigger than the car, but it was,

it was like a little, it was, it was bigger than a dog, basically. Um, and they were like, man, I don't know what that was. And,

you know, they went on to basically, you know, kind of, you know, and I didn't ask them about it. I just stayed quiet. I,

because I wanted to hear it naturally from them because they were very, I could tell that they were upset. Like, this thing scared them. And, you know, they, they were sitting there like, man,

I don't know what that was. It couldn't have been a dog. It couldn't have been, you know, couldn't have been this. Like, do we, you know, I don't really know what that was, but it didn't look like anything I've ever seen before. And, you know, I was kind of waiting, but the boys, the guys, there's about six or seven guys that were out there at this, I guess they were having a bonfire out there out in kind

of this, next to the, this house, I guess. I don't, I don't really know, but the details on that. But like, you know, they ended up having to kind of shoe this thing off, whatever this thing was. now is it a hyena or was it you know or was it you know a dog man i really don't know but you know i just recently you know went and saw a live hyena at this place here and uh i currently resided in in okoma city but i went to this place and i saw a hyena full grown hyena and the way that this girl described it and i'm glad you know that's crazy you asked me

this question as i went and looked at this thing and this thing the way she described it this thing was a little, little, like, it was way bigger than a dog, but it wasn't like, you know, four foot tall. It was, you know, but it was big. You could tell this animal was a really muscular animal. And I just thought that was, you know, that's kind of an interesting story, you know, that I heard from these two, basically high school girls at a bonfire. You know, it's kind of crazy.

It's just kind of overhearing them talk about it. That's, it's very interesting. And listeners, I'm going to shout out cryptids of the corner. real quick. You don't listen to that. You need to. Their podcast is great. And the greatest episode, I think, is when they talk about hyenas and how a lot of dog man

sightings are probably misidentified hyenas. It's very interesting. Please take a listen. I'm going to put it in the show notes too. But Joholla, that kind of leads into another question is, are there a lot of dog man sightings in your state as well besides Bigfoot? But, man, from what I've heard, I think they're running everywhere, too. I'll tell you a crazy story.

And this is a crazy story. All right. This is in Oklahoma City. This is an Oklahoma City. It's the biggest city in Oklahoma. I was conversing, you know, we got a story, I got a story from this, this woman basically telling me about her childhood. and out here in Oklahoma City. And, you know, she went on, you know, the way she described is the layout of their house.

And where their house was, is, was in basically a central part in Oklahoma City. There was basically hardly any trees. But she did mention that there's a row of trees that connect on down that just, I guess it's just undeveloped land that goes all the way out till, you know, wherever outside Oklahoma City. And I never really got a, what part of Oklahoma City that she was in, but she, as a little girl one night,

and she always felt like she was being watched when she was playing outside. And she might have been, I think she said she was eight years old. And she was outside, you know, just, you know, playing around and just, you know, being a little kid. And she always felt like she was being watched.

And she told her mom, I don't, I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of scared to go outside. She's like, what's wrong? There's nothing out here. But they're, you know, their fences backing up against this, you know, thick, you know, tree line, there's trees that, you know, that surrounded it. And one night she's sitting there in the, in her bed. And she just, in the way that she wrote it, it made it sound like she kind of just rolled over.

Like she was kind of, you know, just tossing and turning that night. And she looked over and there was this, basically this wolf's head. staring at her from the into the window and it was just looking at her and she looked at it I guess the way she described it was kind of like a she was shook like she didn't know what she was looking at and the window was not like a you know like a window that was on the ground

this was like a pretty high up window and she's looking at it and this thing is this creature is looking at her through this window with red eyes and it's almost like she felt like it wanted it to her to come outside. And she looked at it and basically screamed when she, you know, eventually when it kind of dawned on her like, hey, this is not normal. And when she screamed, her parents come in and then it was like kind of the end of it.

But, you know, she had kind of heard tappings on the window sometimes when she, like, because she would close the curtains a lot, a lot of times and just happened so that night that she had it open. But that's out Oklahoma City. You know, and for me, that's kind of crazy because it's like in a, you know, a heavily populated area. Another story comes out of, I believe it's out of the Salina area, Salina, Oklahoma.

No, I'm sorry, not Salina, Oklahoma. This is out of, I believe it's north, northern part of, might have been anyways I'm getting into minutiae but there was a story the elders

used to talk about about a dog like creature that would run down this road and it was known to do this and basically what it would do

is it was it was passing through and it wouldn't be every night but that would be its route it would come through and it was like a dog

on its high legs you know running fast an elder one time I was talking about the time that her and her brothers had heard something like some type of yipping and it sounded like baby coyotes

and she was like what is what's that sound and so they her brothers decide to go check it out so they kind of go through the woods and you know they get up to where they hear this kind of chirping sounds like coyotes and what they see is an upright werewolf and it's yipping like a coyote

and they're like what in the world so they take off running and they run back to the house and they couldn't talk, they couldn't speak for the whole 30 minutes after and that's on the Cherokee Nation Res. You know, one thing about Dogman, I think is a little bit confused sometimes when in non-native circles, I'd say,

is the difference between, you know, a shapeshifter's in Skinwalker and a dog man. You know, those things are not interchangeable. They're different. And, you know, there's stories up in, you know, like I said, in Northeast Oklahoma of shapeshifters. Kind of a funny story. This is old, you know, old,

old, you know, medicine, but there's two, these two women could do these things. They could shape-shifting the, in the kind of wolf, kind of wolf, like werewolf type thing. And they would always be beefing with each other.

They had beef for their entire life. They could never get along, but they would always beef with each other, you know, through, you know, through this kind of, you know, shamanism, shape-shifting thing. And, you know, there was a one night said that she saw a wolf, you know, I guess on its hind legs walking in the, in the nursing home, walking around in the nursing home. It was one of those ladies going in to

mess with the other lady. So, you know, there's, you know, kind of getting back to, but to dog, man, something that happened to me when I was on the Illinois, or when I was, it was on Halloween night, which is kind of a crazy, I'm being very long with it and I apologize. And I'm kind of hitting all these different stories and whatnot. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. What if you could get more from what you already do? As a Shell Fuel Rewards member, that's just a regular Saturday. You get more rewards, more savings, and more special offers.

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Reese's. I was on the Illinois River driving to a cabin that we rented out on Halloween 9 and I saw something on the right hand side of the road. And it looked like a wolf. It was on all fours, but it was sitting next, like on its hind haunches. Like, you know,

like when, if someone was bending down to like kind of get out of the way, you know, like if, you're standing up and then you squat down real quick, it looked like it was already squatting down. And I looked and I said,

what was that? This is before I even knew about dog man. I had no idea about this. And I was like, what was that? I was like, that's a big, you know, that's a big dog. I never seen no dog like that. Well, you know, fast forward, you know, into the night and, you know, people are like, man, I don't want to go outside. And I'm like, what are you talking about? She's, they're like, man, when we pulled up, there was a big old dog outside. It was like, it's, it wasn't near the house,

but it was, I guess, up the road a little bit, kind of where I saw it, but it was on down, like it was coming closer to the, to the cabin where we were at. And they were like, man, we almost hit this big old dog, man. It was huge. We don't even know what it was. Like, we didn't, we had to swerve out of the way, you know, and that's how they're describing it. And there were some people outside sitting on the porch and where, you know, this is a big old, you know, kind of doing young people things. And I guess I'm still young, but I'm saying, you know, kind of young and dumb stuff, like, you know. And people, you know, I had some people tell me they swear on everything. There was a howl that came from the river.

and it was a big how you know we had music going and they heard it over the music you know which is kind of a you know crazy thing but that's in that's all that's in talakwa that's kind of up of the river in talakwa you know when it comes you know but i can keep going i mean you know there's all just different types of you know stories you know there's one out of uh kind of southern in Oklahoma, you know, when it comes to kind of, I guess it's like a, it's like a trail, I guess, of this thing. This thing has been running a trail, I guess, and people have seen it. But, but yeah, man, there's, there's, I think they're, I think they're pretty rampant here

in Oklahoma. I would say, without a doubt, you guys have some things going on down there with Dogman as well. not even to mention your hyena story that I just randomly decided to ask you about, which is weird that that came up. But I have a question. It's part in my ignorance. So I know that on the Navajo Nation, they have the Navajo Rangers.

Is there an equivalent of that on the reservations in your area? So, I would say no. Okay. Now, now granted, you know, when you're dealing each nation here kind of in the northeast and kind of the five civilized tribes, and it's, you know, Seminole, Choctaw, Cherokee and Creek and Muscogee Creek. and you know everything has to be more corporate nowadays i would say when it comes to that um but i would not be surprised and this is just kind of you know my thought is i would not be surprised if they had a unit or some type of paranormal investigative you know section of each marshal or you know marshal, Cherokee marshals and then the the Creek Nation light horse.

I would be surprised if they went out and investigated because, you know, these, you know, one thing that's happening in, especially in Creek country, is a lot of people are moving out of the city and they're buying land. And I wouldn't be surprised that, you know, those, you know, especially Creek Nation or Cherokee Nation, they have people that go out and say, hey, we got a weird call. of this seven foot tall hairy man you know they may be off the record I don't know but I would not be surprised at all

if they had something like that I mean I wouldn't be surprised either and you know if there's someone that's listening that's you and hey if you want to reach out that's cool but Yoholla man this has been

such a fun and refreshing interview my goodness this has been a good good time. Can you, do you mind spending a few minutes talking about, you know, what the War Cry podcast is, what listeners can,

you know, expect to hear, you know, when they subscribe and, and listen to that? Yeah. So a lot of the things that you guys hear, I do,

I do discuss, you know, some of these things. On my podcast, I go a little bit harder. When it comes to certain things, you know my my podcast consists of basically true crime to conspiracy to native stories to you know basically anything and everything you know that that's that goes bump in the

night and and you know I try to I try to do research on things and I try to reach out to people and get information and and but my the podcast is available on basically you know Spotify Apple Google you know it's on YouTube I got some interviews on there. Every episode, I think up until the latest one, is up on YouTube. But you can find me, like I said, War Cry Podcasts, and you can even add me on Facebook too as well, Youholla Tiger. But send me a message, you know, sometimes people just add me and I'm like, I don't know who you are, but if you send me a message to say, hey, man, I listened to it. I heard you on Bigfoot Society, or I heard you here, you know, or, you know, I love the podcast and I'll accept

you because, you know, I said, like I said, I like talking to people. And I like getting information and stories from people. Absolutely. And, you know, listeners, if Youholla said something and it jogged your memory about, you know, something you know about Oklahoma, reach out to him, send him a message, get him more information for sure. But, you holl, it has been a pleasure chatting with you tonight. Hey, any, yeah, real quick. You didn't ask me about that.

So have you heard about the... Oh, son of a gun. I totally didn't. Yeah, go for it, man. So you didn't ask me about the casino that reportedly had that, that, uh, the video of that bigfoot coming out of that, the grass grease trap. Have you heard about that? I, I've heard of it. Yeah. Yeah. So I've had an individual come forward and he worked, um, security there.

Okay. And he himself, before that video happened, happened. Now, there's multiple theories. There's multiple different things that people say that happened, but he, he swears by this is what happened. It's essentially that, and this is kind of, I'm going to say, you know, whatever, we're here. I've already mentioned it, so we're here. Essentially what happened was is the tribes confiscated it. The tribe confiscated that, that video. but they were late and allegedly there are copies possibly out there somewhere oh my goodness

and I would not be surprised if we hear 20 years from now that it came up that the video resurfaced somehow I've also heard a theory from someone different that said that Matt Moneymaker from the BFRO bought it jeez you're going to get me

so much trouble now well there's a big allegedly that that's wild okay that's that's that's from somebody that works there that told that said that as well now i like said one thing about this tape and this is why everything i'm talking about is allegedly and i don't nothing is for certain but what i do know for sure is that from what i was told from this this person that there was a great thing that there was a group of older ladies. And this is how this whole thing kind of culminated into what it became is either this happened before or after.

And I cannot exactly remember how they described it. But there was a group of senior citizens that had come to gamble, which is a wild thing to do, is to send nursing home people in the casino to spend their nursing home money. Yeah, that's messed up. Yeah. That is kind of wild. But it was a bunch of senior citizens.

that I don't know if like I said, I don't know if it was a nursing home, but whatever. The bus driver saw this thing standing at the tree line waiting for those ladies to come out, or those ladies and those men to come out, those senior citizens to come out. He took off and quit.

Then the guy that I, you know, the person I've talked to basically saw one of these things and heard tree nunks and hollers. I think the next night and then that's when they got the film. Wow. This is something that I've really,

I've been very interested in and I've been trying to get people to come forward and I've even put it out there on some episodes. It's like, hey, have you heard anything? Let me know. And like I said, I had this gentleman who worked, like I said, he worked there and he was relaying to me that, you know,

it's, and don't never say never on that thing because it may eventually come out. and when it does it'll blow the roof off because it because this is this tape was and if you remember this is like what early 2000s I believe maybe even before that maybe I remember seeing it on the news very briefly and I remember they mentioned it here in Oklahoma and that has been a thing that I have been trying to get to the bottom of and I've been asking people basically since I heard about it and you know like I said one of the like I said I heard that one of the managers went to the news station and that's how it got out. And then they had to quickly reel it

in and, you know, things like that. So if anybody has heard anything about this videotape and about this casino, I'm not going to mention the casino because I don't want, you know, anyone to get in trouble for defamation or anything like that. But everything, like I said, everything from the point that I mentioned the casino to right now, it's all a legend. But if you know anything or you have her anything or you know somebody that knows somebody let me know because like said i've been trying to get to the bottom of this and this is a uh a mystery that i would like to crack dude i'm loving it i love when people dig deep into their their state mysteries about big i think that was back in like 2002 or something around around there's an alleged uh incident

with the casino and the in the missing footage and it's just a fascinating story and yes listeners if you know reach out to you hold I didn't even mention what was on the tape either. I'm sorry. So there was two different things that I was told from, like I said, multiple people, is that they got a full shot of this thing, a full shot, like a clear cut. This is Bigfoot. Then I also heard that, you know, all they could see, you know, from someone else said that they all they could see was an arm.

and they can, you know, basically this thing was eating the grease out of this trap. And it was eating whatever was in that. That's what I've heard. Yeah. And, you know, the one that I think I believe is I think they've seen the whole thing. That's the story that I think, that I believe is that they found that full, the full video. I mean, the person that I talked to said he's seen it and he said it was, he's like, they will never be able to read. Like, there's no footage out there that's going to be able to prove the existence of this thing, but that video will is what he told.

He's, so he's, holy mackerel, have you recorded an interview with this guy? So it's all not, he may eventually do it. Okay. He's an older, he's an older gentleman. He's, he's, you know, he's, he's, he's aged a lot, I'll say. Yeah. He currently lives in a different country. and so

so he eventually he told me said I'm going to kind of build up the nerve and he said he may talk about it but he has a lot of other you know stories about Canada

dog man and he's got all types of other stories that he shared with me and but yeah you never know guys you never know those are the guys you need man man that's that's an interview right there

man. Hopefully you can get that, you know, get a great relationship with that gentleman and be able to interview him. But man, I love talking to individuals like that as well, man. I would be exciting to see if something happens from this in the future. And maybe that video will one day, you know, show up again. Be incredible. Yeah, it would be. Oh, I love a good mystery. And that's a, that's a, that's a, administrative you. Thank you for bringing that up at the end. You holly, this has been a good time, man. Did you have any other closing thoughts before before we start to end out this episode? Yeah, I just appreciate you. You having me on.

And like I said, a lot of the other thing that I've, you know, I've talked about to me is like, it's all very interesting to me and it's very intriguing. And like, like I said, I appreciate you having me on and hopefully we can do this again sometime. Absolutely. Thanks for coming on, Yohla. No problem at all, man. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment.

But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. then we can start the conversation. And I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been 20 years. And it's time that you get this off your chest. And then you can get some well-deserved for rest because I know you haven't been sleeping.

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