Bigfoot Society - Cryptids of Texas and Bringing Back Prehistoric Beasts | Cryptozoologist | Ryan Edwards

Episode Date: October 9, 2022

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Doing pretty good. It's a little hot down here in Texas, but I'm surviving. That's right. That's right. You're surviving. That's what matters. Man, I am glad to talk to you tonight. Do you mind taking a few minutes introducing yourself for the listeners, Ryan? Of course. My name is Ryan. Adorts. I'm a cryptosolological researcher based here in Texas, central Texas, in particular, San Antonio. I've been doing research. searching the cryptozoology and 14 zoology in general for around 10 years now. I'm only 21 myself, so I've been doing this about half my life. So it's been pretty good so far.

I've usually done research into the more scientific side of cryptozoology, because I truly see cryptosology as a zoological field, maybe one that hasn't gotten its recognition of academia, but still a zoological. field. So I try to bring my expertise in panor anthropology, zoology, and panthology in panthology in its field. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, you come highly recommended from a mutual friend of ours, Emily Fleur, from the Forest Floor, of course. But yeah, that's very interesting. So you are a very, you're a young, young cryptozoologist, which is cool because, you know, it's good to know that we've got some young cryptozoologists coming up in the ranks, you know, even myself.

I'm not 21 anymore, that's for sure. But, Brian, what was it, you know, let's say, you know, back when you were 11, 12, what was it that got you into, you know, being so into cryptids and cryptosology to begin with? well what it was is I like to say any young boy I love dinosaurs and animals and mysteries and like Scooby-doo style things like that monsters

but then I got into a particular television show Monster Quest because why they're a hijack and then what I saw is okay there's real life monsters roaming these woods and walking

this earth. So I got into it that way, but then I saw it as no, these aren't monsters. These are just unknown species. They are monsters and appearance and maybe behavior, but they're still just species. So I got into the more, okay, what are these creatures? Are they somehow painful? Are they somehow evolutionary offshoot to something else? Or are they just something else in general? So it's really thanks to like a lot of television shows and books. I read as a kid that really got me into this field. It's interesting, you know, you bring up Monster Quest with Doug Hichick. And it's just crazy to think of, you know, for that generation, you know, how many people that probably influenced to go into that field or to be interested in that field.

I mean, every generation has it, you know, you've got your in search of, you've got your, you know, Monster Quest, you're finding Bigfoot. And I think probably the current one, well, you got a few. You know, you could have Expedition Bigfoot. You could have Mountain Monsters even. You could have, you know, your YouTube stuff. Definitely small town monsters and, you know, beyond the trail with Alex and Eli, all that good stuff. But that's very interesting. I can tell that this is going to be a really detailed discussion about what your thoughts regarding cryptids are when we,

get a little bit further into it but um you know you so at that time frame you know you were watching monster quest to get to a point where you started um you know you started uh really looking into stuff and maybe even going out yourself and searching for cryptids yourself or or what was the next point after watching the monster quest series actually one of the major points was actually news that happened out here in south Texas uh Just about maybe 50 to 60 miles south of San Antonio, there was a town called Kroro. I believe this happened in 2007 that one of the officers down there, one of the county officers took a video of what they saw was of Chippocopra running across the road. And if you, if anyone's interesting like the Texas Tupacobber, they might remember this video.

It shows like a country road out in South Texas at a little careless canine running down the road and then running to a feet. And I saw that on, I believe 10th 5 was news station. And I thought, oh, these creatures, they're close. The stuff happening just out almost where I have found my backyard. And then I remember, I can't remember the exact either. Also, there's a hoax or the house down here. I told you that said he shot a big foot. And of course, that was a giant hoax.

And it's happened more recently today. But I also got me into the study of like, Cryptozoology and research because I realized how much this occurs close by. And I realized, okay, if there's cryptids here in Texas, they have to be everywhere, but they can't just be everywhere because of course they have been like the middle town or something like that. So there's really a lot of events that I saw that happened here in Texas and close by that really got me more into the field and actually during the research myself.

That's fascinating. that that video of that chupacabra was so i mean in pretty close proximity to where you're at did you find yourself uh starting to get involved with that case or or trying to contact you know people that were involved with that video or any cool stuff that came out of that eventually i've done it uh more in more in recent years because i'll admit it that uh i was most likely kind of you can say I'm researching or an enthusiast up until maybe one or two years ago. Hmm.

Okay. Since the publishing on my book and work on that, I've actually been doing field research. And not as much field research as most people, but it's a little bit maybe a camping trip there and there, but actually talking to eyewitnesses and talking to fellow researchers. That's only the most recently. But for a long time, I've been doing, like, looking into newspaper articles and looking into Zoological and Paineville Records and trying to find correlations between crypticid sightings, historical crypticid sightings, and what we now know from zoology and painology.

Did you find a few years ago that there was a catalyst that made you go to the next level, which would be starting to interview witnesses, starting to actually reach out, you know, write your own book? Was there something that set you on that road? Honestly, it was always just something I saw myself doing one day in the future. And especially like with my book in particular, I was, I started writing game when I was back in high school. And what I thought is like, okay, let me put down all my knowledge I have down in like a journal almost.

And then I saw, wait, no, this, I don't want to just regard to take knowledge. I want to add to it. I want to go maybe a little deeper. maybe origins of these creatures. So I started putting that down and then recently in the past couple years, I started going back and actually editing it and actually got to publish. But we're talking about witnesses and things like that. It really depends on just who I talked to.

Like there's a lot of researchers here in Texas that I've been able to talk to and become friends with people like Ken Gerhard, Wild Blackburn, Josh Turner. And these are people that really got me. into the field. Yeah, you know, you're very, you're very fortunate to live in a state where you've got people like, you know, Ken Gerhardt, you know, Lyle Blackburn, Josh Turner, you know, even, you know, Aaron Dees, up-and-coming, you know, researchers. Texas just seems like it's such a diverse state for cryptids. I mean, I've talked to a gentleman from the Jefferson, Texas this area and the stories about Bigfoot sightings there he had were out of this world.

And I mean, you've got your dogman sightings. You've got Josh's stories. You've got, you know, Aaron's research with the Texas Dogman triangle that's going to be coming out soon. But it's like that state, man, there's something about that state of Texas. Do you think there's something that makes it such a hotbed for cryptids or just just because it's such a big state? I think it's such a big state, but also I look at, what may I look at cryptids or like

an ecological and zoological perspective. So I see the variety of biomes and ecosystems across the state. And if large predators, for instance, like mountain lions, the Bexford Red Wolf, Black Bearers, if these species could persist and naturally survive out here, why couldn't other large predators, such as Bigfoot and possibly dogman phenomena? So I don't think it's maybe like a magnet for unknown phenomena, but if it's bringing in known species, why wouldn't these biomes also be bringing in unknown species? That's pretty.

The animals not yet recognized by science. I like that. Yeah, that's smart, man. That is a smart idea. Yeah. Yeah, and I mean, what kind of different, you know, when I think of Texas, I think of, you know, so this is, you know, speaking from a guy who, you know, I live up in Iowa, so I've never really been to Texas before. So I know maybe we got some prairies down there.

But what other kind of environments do we have that could be, could be, have some cryptids in there? Well, what is one, we have several. different ecosystems like regions. One big one is East Texas. That's a big ticket and bayous, well, river bottom places where there's a lot of Sasquard sightings. If you look at Falk, Arkansas, that's only maybe 60 to 50 miles away from the Texas State Boulder. So all along East Texas, you have bayous and deep forest in places where large animals can persist.

On the southern border, you have the Rio Grande Valley and a lot of open-arid racelands. And this is the areas where living Taylor sightings occur. The big bird phenomena back in the 90s. And then in West Texas, you have more deserts and mountains, and this is where creatures like living hyenas are found. And some dog man sightings. And even El Paso had its own, well, Sasquatch sightings, but what people were described, driving with saskwarks with almost like a muzzle very similar to what we have is to Gugley

nowadays. In central Texas where I'm located, we have the hill country. This is more you can't really say mountainous because if you compare the hill country to the Rocky Mountain that's like comparing a twig to a tree. So it's more hilly, a little bit more

forested, haulers, things like that. And this is where it is a good amount of saskwark sidings. Are they persistent here or maybe or maybe they're just being nomadic and moving through. And in North Texas, you have a lot of big La Prairie land, open country, and this is where of course you have

a lot of Thunderbird sightings and also some unknown canine sightings up there. Like people have seen high end like creatures out in Abilene, Texas. That's northern Texas. You have dog man sightings, the goat man phenomenon as well up in Fort Worth, Dallas area.

So you have a variety of environments and correlating cryptids that connect to it. Because I show these cryptids are maybe persist in a certain environment. That's a possibility. Or maybe just how people are seeing the area. So it's more like you could ask what doesn't Texas have for? I mean, that's fantastic. I had no idea, you know, the immense amount of biomes.

and that could definitely, you know, support all these crypts. I mean, everything from you said Goatman to Gugwees. That's intense. You know, Gugwee isn't a, it's a thing where that actually hasn't come up on Bigfoot Society as well. Do you mind taking a few minutes talking about what exactly the Gugwee is? Of course. Well, the nomenclature behind Gugreta entomology, it's mean space theater. and I believe it was a jigua culture, but it's a Native American culture.

And what these creatures are described as, it's almost like imagine a Sasquatch, but with a face of like a mandrel or baboon. Not particularly a dogman or canine-like characteristics, but more like a large old-world monkey. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. like the mandrel or the baboon. Muzzles, usually more pronounced indentation, more pronounced canines,

which would me demonstrate maybe a origin that's different from possibly where we have a Sasquatch, because Sasquatch show more human-like characteristics. These show more primitive primate characteristics. That's they all true. There is not a lot of evidence

for them, but if you look up to Beasts 7 shoots, this picture was taken up in Canada. back I believe in 1990s. And what this picture demonstrates is a peculiar what we see as a creature down in the lower right-hand corner holding a little white animal. A lot of people suspect this could have been a dog or something.

And a lot of people say it's a Sasquart, but then you look at the face. And you see a protrusion, a pragmaticism in the face. And of course, that's something that's not seen in Sasquatch phenomenon. People describe their flat face, right, seven to humans. And these guggly are described to be a lot more violent, a lot more territorial than what you see as just regular Sasquatches. Like if you described your big foot up in the Pacific Northwest, they're a little bit more kind of like, okay, you go your way, I go my way. But the guggly and Sasquatch here in the south, it's a little more territorial, a little more, oh, if you're in my way, I'm going to push you out of my region.

Like, look at like the falc monster and things like that. a lot more territorial, a lot more aggressive in behavior. Wow. You know, and I've heard, I've seen that, well, I've seen that photo that you're talking about. It is a very interesting photo. And definitely that's what you hear. You hear about that cryptid, you know, it's got something like a baboon face and it's usually pretty nasty.

Have there been some, uh, some, some encounters with them in Texas, uh, where they've, they've and not the most nice encounters or yes uh these are primarily not ones i've taken but my friend josh turner's taken he's taken a couple gogly sightings up and by uh austin the texas which is actually about maybe and now is driving north from me and he's uh and there's been signs in him not just on people's land but almost trying to push people off of their land and uh killing animals. There's been stories of... If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP.

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Oh, wow. And hogs out here get a couple hundred pounds. But when they describe the animal, they described as more of a baboon-like face, a more kind of protruding face. So to me, I might indicate a more of a gugly-like creature than a Sasquatch. But with me personally, it's cryptids, no one of the creatures is very important. What you name these creatures is very important. So we have like Sasquatch, and Ngugly Dogman,

Skunk ape, Ohio grassmen. People start kind of coaling these creatures to like, oh, there might be subspecies of each other or things like that. And with me, at least in my research, I don't believe so, but it just comes to like what you saw naming these creatures.

Like people say like maybe like, did you know a squad? Another name for Sasquatch might be like a subspecies of what we now know a Sasquatch. I don't believe so. be just a different name for it. So there's a bunch of different names, but then we have to come down to the physical description.

Like with this gut green creature, it actually looks different from what we see as Sasquatch, and its behavior is also different. So to me, that indicates it's a different species and what we now know is the North American ape, the Gulf American Sasquatch. So interesting. I want to make sure that we talk about your book, of course. So, you know, you already mentioned that it's important, you felt it was important not to just regurgitate information that has already, you know, been in other books. What are, what are some things in cryptids of the world that, you know, are going to be, you know, unique to your book specifically, do you feel? Well, one thing that I always try to do with these with cryptids is an explanation of them. As we all know, a species just doesn't appear out of nowhere.

It has an origin. It has a natural history. It's behavior. It's the way it looks, the way it acts. All that comes for adaptation, evolution. So with these cryptids I write about, I always try to put, okay, is it possibly a evolutionary offshoot like if I talk about for instance a ring pendant I might put it could be a bifidoregating it could be a proto pygmy it could be an awesome piscuitous bigfoot it could be a gigantic

piscis it could be a perinthus uh getty it could be a denisivan it could be a giganticapiscis i always try to put an explanation of these cryptids because looking at cryptids do a natural history which is almost more like an unnatural history, if you'll really look at it, they have to have an origin. So I always try to put an explanation of these creatures. Now, is it truly what they are? Most likely not, because these are just my own hypotheses. And I'm not someone that says, oh, I can't be wrong.

I can easily be wrong with these creatures. So I try to put down like, okay, what could they be? And I try to put in some lesser-known cryptids, like some cryptids that really are talked about nowadays, like the Buru, giant monder lizard that's seen in, you know, seeing in Nepal, but hasn't been seen since the 1950s. The Ninkinaka, almost like a dragon-like creature seen out in parts of Uganda. The lesser-known cryptids, maybe like even Mandibaronga,

a bigfoot-like creature that's seen out in India. I try to put in cryptids that people might not know about or at least haven't heard a lot about and haven't heard of research behind them. That's interesting, yeah. I love the, you know, bringing in the cryptids where it's, you know, they're not the ones that usually get the love, you know, they're not your normal, you know, big foot or your dog man, you know, this is maybe things from different countries, but that's really cool that you were, you know, that. you were able to put those in that book as well. Does the book have any of any reports that you've taken or? Not as of this book. It does not. It has a lot of like physical descriptions, historical

sightings, of course, where they seem because I kind of have this book as more of an introduction into cryptos. If you're interested in cryptids, it's a good little read because like, you're, you're okay, I want to learn about the, I want to learn about Bigfoot, okay, let me see what's about. I want to learn about YETI, I can go to this page. I want to learn about Cadill Source. I can go to this page. And it's a good little

introduction. I don't go into a lot, into a lot, a lot of detail because I want each page we dedicate to a certain cryptid effort to be about even. I don't want the Yeti to have like 10 pages even though you could. Because to me it seems a little unfair, because The Yeti and Bigfoot always get all the attention. I want to give each cryptid about an equal amount of attention.

Gotcha. And I even have some cryptids that are, I like to call overarching names, like phantam filines. Around the world, you have what we call the pantheratrux phenomena. Unknown black felines or people see lions in North America, things like that. Unknown canines that like what Lening Gophry calls her Dyer Dogs, unknown wolf-like creatures seen around the world. And of course, like the Dog Man phenomenon, I called him bipedal canines because I, at least when I wrote this book, I saw it as more of a biological species. But now in recent years, I've kind of changed my mind on that. So I have a variety of cryptids in there and also creatures that I use as almost less.

is a cryptosology, like the windigo. The windigo, I do not see as a cryptid, but its characteristics have changed throughout history, and that's a good lesson for cryptosombalogy, because perception shapes the reality of how people see creatures. So I put that in there because it shows how perception and the psychosis of reality has changed because of what people say this are windigo is not what they actually. see like people describe bipedal deer but the Native American stories describe more of a kind of a rake or gray humanoid creature a ritual way oh man the rake okay yeah uh there are things that make me unable to sleep but we might get to that I mean oh my good but one one thing

I didn't want to let go by first is you mentioned how your perception of or how you view dogman changed over the years what is your your viewpoint of that now first i believe there was a physical creature that has evolved or something like that but if you look at it to a scientific perspective it it can't be not just because it's a mix of canine and human traits that's the latter part of it one thing is i look at the dog man phenomenon to an ecological perspective and with ecology of course you have You have nexus, you have apex predators, you have omnibus, things like that. And by people canines, they would have to be an apex predator because unlike Sasquatch, canines are not omnibores.

They don't really eat a lot of plants and fruits and things like that. Sure. So it would be containing a niche based in a little, very similar like wolves and bears. But when you indicate sightings, they live in the same environment as bears and wolves. So you cannot have two major predators living alongside each other. One would have to out-compete the other. And even these dogman signs also occur where Bigfoot signs occur. So you couldn't have that.

It's something about niche differentiation. Same animals living in the same area, but they don't compete with each other. And we have not seen that with these. So it caused me to believe this creature is something else. What it is, I'm not sure. It could be, I don't know, interdimensional, paranormal. It's something what I call a paracrypted or neocryptid. It's a second kind of subset of cryptosology I'd call paracryptozoology.

The creatures that truly cannot have evolved here on Earth, like dog man, goat man, blind humanoid. These are creatures that just due to their biology, if it is truly biological, this couldn't have evolved the way they are described. And that is very interesting, Ryan. So you're saying that, so this grouping, the paracryptids, you're saying they've come from somewhere else. Yes. What that's something somewhere else is? I don't know. That's not really where my research goes into.

That's what I have other people. I know other people that do that. But with me, I'm like, okay, if something else, what it is, I don't know. I'm not going to touch that. I might touch it a little bit. Like, he's either not going to touch us or working. So, I mean, hypothetically, this could be from other planets. This could be from inside the middle of the earth, you know, has to come from,

or from another dimension or another, you know, all sorts of things. Yeah. Well, it could be even, well, that's called a monster of the human mind. Oh. How people's fear and perception and psychology affects their reality. It's like how someone might be super high, might be highly religious and see like, how Jesus is a face at a potato chip, something like that. If you have a preconceived notion of a existence of a being or a creature,

you expect to see it in within your reality. It's like if I believe a dog man, if I see something weird in the woods, oh, it was a dog man. That's how does some people's minds work. Our eyes are on video cameras and our brain might be to, most powerful computer in the world, but it might not have the computing power of one. So what we see and what we perceive are two different things. And belief has a very strong role in that.

And psychology has a very strong role in that. So with like the dog man and go man phenomena, I believe it could be something else going on. Maybe it's a misidentification of Sasquatch. Maybe it's a misidentification of a nightmare creature. But when it comes to a good amount of sightings, it can't be a misidentification. It has to be something else.

What that's something else is, it could be like the actual dog man or goat man. Well, that's the thing, yeah. It's a lot of it is psychology. I mean, that is very smart. I mean, you can go so many different places from there. It's like, you know, the thing that gets me, though, is like you have, you know, a person where, you know,

it's one thing if you've got a person who all they're doing is reading Bigfoot books, all they're doing is watching, you know, stuff on the Satsquatch archives and old Bigfoot movies. And then they go out and they see Bigfoot. Okay, well, that's what you're filling your mind with, right? But the thing that gets me is these witnesses where it's like, they're not Bigfoot people. They're not Dogman people. And they saw something. Yeah.

That's the one. That's what gets me, Ryan. It just blows my mind. The people that say, oh, that's what that creature was. I didn't know what that was called. There's witnesses I've talked to like, oh, well, you saw it as Bigfoot. Like, I just thought I thought, I thought they are, I thought I saw some peri human in the woods, something like that. You're people that don't know what these creatures are, or at least a name to them.

That's what also interests me as well, because you don't have a preconceived belief in it. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. So how you, what you're seeing is what you truly are seeing. you're not adding anything to that because you have nothing to add i don't want to put you on the spot so feel free to to decline but um you know over the years you've you've talked to different witnesses you know maybe gotten different reports are there any of those that are unique to you that you're able to share perhaps or is that something where you know there's some of them

you know we we don't want to get into um trying to think of this is anything that's maybe a more unique to me. Well, one is I do have some report in San Antonio, one that I've taken, well, one of my first ones I've taken a couple years ago was a individual that I lived in San Antonio, Texas, and lives by a place called Salado Creek. And that night they would hear strange howls and wines and things like that. And I ran an experiment. I ran different animal calls on like YouTube and said, hey, is this this?

Is this this? I ran coyote house, wolfhows, some primate noises and, of course, wild dogs. And what they connected to the most was a friend of mine, it's ex-Western, he took a strange audio out in East Texas. And what he believes is either a Sasquatchel or dog man. And when they heard that, they immediately perked up their ears and said, that's exactly what I heard. So it's an audio. So it's what you call, like, trace evidence. You didn't see the creature, but it might correlate to maybe some type of unknown creature living within San Antonio.

Well, not within San Antonio, but at least moving in and out. Because recently I've talked to, let's believe a former guest on your show, Bear County Bigfoot. Oh, yeah, yeah. Rod, right? Yeah. And I believe maybe that evidence might correlate with his theory of a Sasquatch living in Salado Creek. So it's funny how different researchers come to the same conclusion or at least have very correlating evidence. And they never knew each other before.

I didn't know about kind of Big Fincher recently. But I took that report about a year and a half ago. Wow. Oh, that's so cool. And maybe the information that each of you have can help the other one out. That's why I think it's so important in this field that we're not about, you know, tearing the other person down, but we're like, hey, I heard those weird Bigfoot thing. And I hear you're into Bigfoot too, but maybe this will help you out.

you know, be open to sharing your stuff, you know, people need to do more of that. Yes. Like, I actually have, um, they're kind of big for coming on my show this actually Saturday. And I'm so we can actually talk, sit down and discuss and talk because I am very interested in his research. And especially because it's literally in my backyard. But he's done the research a lot more than I. So I want to talk to him like, okay, let's see what we can find out through discussion. Because when me, discussion is a lot of this research. It's talking to researchers and talking eyewitnesses and being able to not just, like you said, tear down someone else because they might have different opinion. But seeing how you can come together on your opinion to see maybe, okay, you think that way.

I think this way. Let's see how we can meet in the middle. And I'm not going to change your mind, of course. But let's just see how we can come to an agreement. So smart. And, I mean, that'll be a very cool episode. which your podcast is named the Crypted Chronicles, correct? Yes, sir.

Yep. And so that would be very cool because, you know, you talking to Rod, you'll be able to get really specific about a lot of really cool stuff in that area since you're both familiar with it. And I think that's something very special when you have an interview where both people are very familiar with the subject or even the subject area. but he's a good guy. I enjoy talking to him for sure.

We did. Do you ever do you ever go to do any research outside the state of Texas or pretty much your main focus is inside the state of Texas? With me, it's mostly inside Texas because I, well, I do share this information out quite a bit. So I'll share it to you. I'm actually a full-time educator. So when I don't have a lot of time. at least not during the summers, during the school year, to go and do research. I used to spend my summers going to like try to do research, but just due to, well, time and

budgetary constraints, I really can't go out and do a lot of research recently. But I do travel for like conferences and things like that. But I try to, I'm trying to do research outside Texas, but it's going to be something that's a little bit more down the line for me. Gotcha. What conferences are you able to make it? too. I've done like the Jefferson Bigfoot research conference done by Craig Woolheater, the Southeast Texas Bigfoot conference, the first annual Alabama Bigfoot conference. I try to make it to the Paris Tennessee Dogman Conference done by Josh Turner.

Oh yeah. But just due to it was the beginning of the school year, I wasn't able to make it. But there's a couple more conferences I'm trying to make this year than last year. like Falc, Arkansas, I believe it's a Florida conference done by Stacey Brown, a couple of other conferences here in the South. It's crazy how many conferences are down in the South when you think about it. I mean, you guys have a lot going on down there. You guys are lucky. Yeah. But let's talk, you know, the listeners want to hear it. I know they're like, I can't believe you skipped over it because you're, you're, you're,

listen out. But let's talk about it. So what are your feelings about the rake or, you know, your gray humanoid, however you want to talk about them? If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here, and one here, you need the Intuit ERP. If scaling your business feels like start starting over, you need the Intuit ERP. Intuit Enterprise Suite is the AI-native ERP solution that consolidates, migrates, and automates, all in one place. Learn more at intuitt.com slash ERP. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there.

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it to help your job get the premium status it deserves at Indeed.com slash podcast. Just go to Indeed.com slash podcast right now. Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a recess. Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music, or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a rees. Everything happens for a Rees. Okay. Would that, well, look at least the physical description of these like Greek like creatures,

I can't really pinpoint if they could have evolved, if they, oh, what their, like, origins would be, like, unless it's maybe some type of race of people that I just went in a weird direction. Oh, man. But with their behavior and their mold their actions. It shows something that's, well, unnatural in origin. Because if you look at like encounters with these wrecked like creatures, they're almost never good. They're almost always nasty. They're almost always trying to attack you.

And that's just not how animals work. That's not how living things work. Of most species, they like to kind of just go their way and avoid you. But with these creatures, it's almost like they're coming after people and causing fear, which, most things just don't work like that. I know. So with me, what they are, I believe they somehow may be paranormal in origin. But other than that, I'm not sure.

There is a phenomenon to it, of course. There are plenty of eyewitness accounts and things like that, that there is a phenomenon to it. What that phenomenon is, I do not know. And we all, you know, we kind of touched on this in a way. Do you think it's almost a thing where humans in general, we tend to focus on something and then because everyone's focused on it? I don't want to get too weird, but you know what I'm saying? It's almost-

A TIPA phenomenon. Sure, yeah, yeah. I think you're trying to reference. Yeah, break that down for the common man. Yeah, it's a topa. It's an idea from the Buddhist religion. It's an idea that if you think about something hard enough, it become reality. It's like if you think positive thoughts, positivity would be put into the universe like that.

When me, I do believe in it, but not in a physical sense, if that makes sense. If you believe in something hard enough, you will see it, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's there. Like how I was saying earlier with perception. If you like have like what Renee Holland from find Bigfoot say Bigfoot on the brain, I know what you're going to see Bigfoot. Yeah. It's like a non-fiscal topa, like what I would call it. If you have the rake on the brain, you might see a rake.

Sure. If you have Dogman on the brain, you might see a dog man. Not necessarily. It doesn't mean every person who's his dog man is misidentifying something. Of course not. Or even the rink. But it is how just how humans work our perception how our reality works So with the topa phenomena I do believe in it

But not with like a truly physical sense more of a psychological aspect to it Very it's very interesting because it's almost like it seems to go in cycles like there was a For a while it was like all big foot now it's like a lot of people are like it seems like the dog man is like got super popular out of nowhere, you know? But that could be a few different things as well. But I think you mentioned a while back. We were talking about the Rake earlier. And you were saying that there's some Native American reports or stories regarding something similar to the Rake.

Is that what you had said? Well, yes, because if you look at the object of Rake cultures and the cultures of the Galkwins, when they're referencing the windigo they are not referencing some like bipedal deer creature describing what you more describe as the rake nowadays uh creatures that are gray or white in skin uh maybe crawl on old fours which is already a whole fine thing to think about but it's what you think of as rake not what you think of as the windigo nowadays because if you think of windigo you think of a bipedal deer or something something that has horns and atlers. But that's a course not what they described.

They describe something more akin to what we see as the rake. So that's how, like, naming and nomenclature and how this belief can change. Because I've done some research into the Windigo with my friend, Ryan Paul Trembly. Oh, sure. And he shows how, thanks to when Europeans into North America, the perception of Windigo changed. They brought the ideas of the Luke Gauru and the werewolf. And that altered their perception of the windigo and the cultural idea of the windedigo. But originally it was more variable rake-like creature.

That is interesting. Have you found in your research that there's certain parts of the country that are maybe more susceptible to having rake reports? Or is it pretty much a could-be-anywhere type thing? I think it could be anywhere, but usually most, at least, maybe. major sightings, at least the ones you hear mostly about, does occur mostly in the northeast area of North America, maybe the eastern seaboard parts of maybe the Midwest, some along the West Coast, but it's a little bit everywhere. Gotcha. Yeah. Well, hopefully not too much in the Midwest. They can keep away from Iowa. But, you know, I'd hate to see one of those out of it. What you got up there at Dog Man? You know, you're not Rakes. That's true. We got the dogman up here. I'd hate to see a rake. you know,

Gallum run out of a cornfield. Can you imagine that? Oof. That would be whole fine. Oh, boy. Yeah. No, thanks. You know, well, I got to ask you because the title of the show is Bigfoot Society.

So we got to have some Bigfoot chat. But I like to always, you know, ask the guests. So what is, what are your two sense on what Bigfoot is specifically? How do you describe that to people? Well, I describe it very similar to like what Jeff Meldrum calls them, a relic hominoid. I try not to use the word hominanid because we don't truly know what this creature is. It's a, of course, a primate of some sort, and it's human-like an origin, but what it truly is, I'm not sure.

I do have my hypotheses of what they are, but truly what they are, either human or not human, we do not know interesting do you think they've they've been here all along well actually i do like the project i'm working on now is a my second book is the working title is saskatch a prehistory of a living legend oh wow and what i want to talk about is how i believe sasquatch it's characteristics both anatomically and behaviorly demonstrate what we call an evolutionary anachrysism. It was built for prehistoric world. And an example of that is,

okay, this might be a little off topic, but the avocado. The avocado, its fruit, was made for prehistory, megafauna. Its seed, if you ever seen like avocado seed, it's so large, no living creature could carry it.

But what did eat it was golf, ethers, megatheriums, a giant ground swaps. Mammoths, that will move them around. But once those animals died out, the avocado also almost went extinct, but it only stayed extinct thanks to us humans. I believe the same phenomena to an extent occurred with Sasquatch. It was built for, in my hypothesis,

twice the scene or pliocene United States, alongside other megafauna that was indigenous to this area, like animals like giant ground slavs, Sabin-Troof cats, the American Lion, which was like two times the size of modern African lion, the short-faced bear, the hyena dons, all these other ferocious, truly monstrous creatures. And now what this ammo is, I do have an idea that I believe it's a older genera of apes, most likely from Mice in Europe. Because if you look at myocene Europe, you had a large variety of different creatures. You had a denuvius, gyaphypificus, Oriopithecus, Kenya Pificus. And all of these creatures, at least anatomically, might demonstrate that they're on a way to bipedalism.

Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. Orielpificus alone shows a concave pelvis and a concave knee. which demonstrates a bipedal stance. And this occurred about 12, about 12 to 15 million years ago. This is long before humans were even around. So if a primate was already becoming bipedal before us, what would it look like now? I believe they'd become a lot larger, a lot more derived in both anatomically foot structure as well.

because if you look at the different structure of the Sasquatch, it shows very relic hominoid characteristics. The mid-tarsal break, the flexion, even like the hands of Sasquatch, it shows a much more primate-like

characteristics, not human. So I believe that most likely Sasquatch is a most likely some type of dry epithecine that is internal from America, a lot older than what we thought. A lot of times when people think of like Jagged and Episcis or other creatures that are presumably

Bigfoot, they think Plyas the seed. An animal that maybe came around here maybe 10,000 years ago. Personally, I don't believe that. I believe Bigfoot, well, Sasquatch, it's a lot older genera. It's a lot older species. I believe it may enter North America maybe 10 million years ago and has evolved since here in for America on its own is now what we now know as Sasquatch. So this is what my ideas are.

It's very interesting ideas as well. So where do you feel the original, if you could say home or birthplace of the Sasquatch, would have been if you're following that train of thinking? I believe most likely, at least from my senior Europe, most like maybe Italy, Germany, moved across Russia and into what we now know it's Beringia. And once it into Berengea, this area was a lot more lush,

a lot more deciduous force. Plyssetian Alaska looked a lot like modern day Washington State. So I believe these creatures might have evolved since then. But most likely bipedalism would have evolved. And if they weren't already bipedal, they'll become a lot more human-like in bipedalism. their hands would have formed a more human-like hand.

Their brains would have gotten larger thanks to the sustenance of meat. Because humans, we believe, got a larger brain thanks to us being able to eat meat more protein. And what we see from the ecology of Sasquatch, it needs a lot more meat than other primates. Except for maybe even chimpanzees, but just due to caloric intake of Sasquatch, it eats a lot more protein than other apes, of course. So I believe it would have evolved and become what we now know a Sasquatch because if we look at the modern Sasquatch, it is almost perfectly built for the North American ecosystem. Not for some jungle or some desert. It's built for deciduous forest and mountain ranges.

And that's exactly what we had here in Piscesan and Pisina, North America. Even suspects of maybe having a little bit thicker fat and skin. Like a lot of people say they shoot, they've shot Bigfoot and has no effect. That might demonstrate a thicker skin or thicker fat layers, which of course was very common in high stage mammals. Like mammoths and mastodons had a fat that was almost 10 inches thick. So that might be a more philosophical detail that might demonstrate being a prehistoric creature. It's size. What I like to say about Sasquarch, it is truly an engagement.

example of ice age mega fauna it is too gigantic and that doesn't fit with modern day north america it takes it needs too many resources it needs too much food so why would it be the size of it except if it lives alongside poor historic creatures like smite alpha talus uh alcotisimus the sole face bear uh titanus the tarobirds i believe it lives alongside those creatures so morphologically and behaviorally adapted for those predators. Not for what we now have nowadays, but maybe it did adapt a little bit to the most dangerous of all homo sapiens. That's why it has such cryptic behavior at nocturnal, because there are no nocturnal,

because there are no nocturnal. Maybe that's why it became nocturnal. I just personally believe that Sasquots have evolved and adapted thanks to prehistoken north america and humans you know you can really let your mind wander when you start going down that road and you like you wonder if there is a point in history where you know Sasquatch uh you know got into you know wars or against humans or you know if there are any clashes like that or it's just it's crazy to think about but yeah like one thing I think about is I don't know if maybe you've seen these in your time but like those like paintings they have like crystal North America as long as that's like oh manif camel horse things like that I will I'm always looking at those I look at that I'm like if you put Sasquatch there it would fit perfectly I can imagine a trooper Bigfoot in the corner like maybe eating fruit or something so I thought why couldn't that be reality why could that be reality why

couldn't actually exist. And that's what really got me into this. Then I looked at the morphology, behavior of Saskatchel. I'm like, okay, it fits perfectly with being a personal creature. And with the idea of them becoming like violent with humans, of course you have the stories of red hair giants in North America and of giant creatures that lived alongside humans. So I believe, at least if a troop of Saskatch were in an area the same as humans, it could come out to conflict if they were going after the same food resources and things like that. That's maybe why they become such cryptic, such cryptic animals. Like one thing I like to bring up is Native American groups.

They saw Sasquatch as being a human, like a tribe. And they said they're a lot more kind of hand-in-hand humans. They came a lot closer. They lived a lot closer to Native Americans. But once Souther's came in, it pushed away to, Sasquatch and pushed them into more deeper areas, higher mountains, deeper forests. And that's because once the settlers came in, they destroyed the environment. They cut down forests.

They burned fields. Native Americans did not do that. So I believe the Sasquatch would see the destruction of the environment and be pushed away and move out of it. Maybe that's why there aren't as many Sasquatch sites now is what Native Americans would talk about them being almost a mega tribe that lives alongside them. It's due to the destruction of environment, maybe even killing a Sasquatch because there are plenty stories of people killing Sasquatch back in 1800s, or what they would describe as just killing of a wild man or even later in the 1800s. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Even look at the Jacko incident up in the believe there's a Ruby Creek.

People described seeing a small gorilla-like creature and captured it all. it on a box car on a train but after that no one knows what happened to it so maybe that's why we have Sasquatch in such mountainous and forested areas is because we've pushed we've pushed them into those areas it's crazy crazy to think about but i mean it it totally makes sense what were the stories of the red-haired giants that you were referring to earlier well with that some Some Native American tribes, especially along the Mississippi River Delta, described giant human, well, at least they would describe giant humans, more akin to maybe giants of like European legend, like a Norwegian legend.

But they described giant hair covered creatures with red hair or black hair that would come and cannot women, children, things like that. you have like stories of the so Kalu from the Cherokee legend they were described giant giants that would come and steal the women but of course that phenomenon itself is so interesting because if you look at the indigenous people of africa they describe the same thing occurring but with gorillas they describe guerrilla stealing women and stealing children and of course we don't see that nowadays so I believe a lot of these like kidnapping stories might be a little more of exaggeration i believe it still occurred because even chimps uh modern chimpanzees steal babies from their

cribs to eat them they just see them as a like food souls yeah so i believe if the saskatch are very similar to like modern-day apes they could see human especially younger humans as a food source but a regular food source probably not like they're not they're not they're not out here eating babies and things like that this isn't like Red Day Redemption but I do believe that they're out here right maybe if they see an opportunity they take it I believe Bigfoot a highly opportunistic optimal I mean at the end of the day you have to be right yeah big foot But that just blew my mind.

Dude, I've never, you know, I'm sure maybe some other listeners have. But, you know, personally, that the connection you made there between, you know, the guerrillas doing the same things that, you know, the red hair giants like that. That's blowing my mind, dude. That's very cool. Thank you for sharing that. Let's talk about, you know, let's talk about actually you're saying there's sightings of living terasors down in Texas? Yes, there's plenty of examples.

Like my friend Jason McLean, he's a researcher based up at Fort Worth and Fort Worth-Dalice area, and he sees people leave, he saw a what you call a Raffirincourt Terasaur. If you think of more like, I don't know if you've seen Jurassic Park or Jurassic World. Yes. But the ones with a long tail and a big head. Right. Yep. Those are that morphodons.

Okay. But Raffirinkles are very similar. They have a long tail with a flange, a little bit smaller than like a Trinidon or a terosaur. But people describe seeing those creatures. And you have several examples of this. You have the Congomal Motu of Africa. That means they're breaking of boats.

People describe, the indigenous were described growing across a river or a lake. And then these giant bat-like birds they would call them or like night demons they would sometimes call them, but come down and attack them in their boats. The rope in the Papua New Guinea or the devil, the demon flyer, they describe a creature with a long tail, a tail of a body and a crest and bioluminescence. You have the big bird of South Texas. You just got people reported seeing a Castle-like creature flying around. Even actually here in San Antonio, back in the 1980s,

a group of school teachers were driving on South Side of San Antonio. And they looked in the field and they saw this weird-looking bird flying across the field. Once they got to the school, they looked in the textbooks. They couldn't find it until they opened up a dinosaur book. And they saw a picture of a teradactyl. And they said, this is what they saw. With me personally, I do put some belief into the idea of living terracoles.

But with me, not a lot. Because with it, it's been 66 million years. I don't believe these creatures would at least look the same for 66 million years. If you look at non-avian dinosaurs like the theropause or raptors, they went from giant scaly, actually feather-covered creatures that kept out with giant to what we don't know as birds, like crows and sparrums. So I believe if that has changed so much in 66 million years, why would these creatures stay the same? And even then, when people describe seeing these creatures, they describe pointed wings, scaly skin, bat-like wings, giant crests, giant tails.

And from the pain to logical record, we now know these creatures didn't look like that. They were covered in what we call picnol fibers. So they almost look like they're colored in hair. Their wings were rounded at the tip. Their wings actually look a lot different from what we're now knowing like media. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. They didn't have long tails, at least most of them did not.

And their crests were a lot smaller than what we see in, like, sci-fi and, like, things like that. So when me, at least, I believe a lot of these Terosaur sightings are people thinking they saw a terosaur because it looks similar to what they saw on TV. But now what we now know from the paintological record, terrors didn't really look like what you see on Jurassic Park and other, like, dinosaur movies.

So people are letting their, again, their preconceived notions and beliefs shape what they saw. It's the same thing also occurs in the living dinosaur phenomenon. Let's say, you know, if we've got terrosaurs down in Texas, where do you think they are hanging out at? I believe if they were, they'll probably be in South Texas or along the border. Because in that area, you have a lot more, like, deep gorges and canyons, and, of course, that has a lot more airflow and a lot more warm air to boost them up. Some of the largest terraceolesoles actually on record have been found here in Texas, Cretto-Quilus. Giant has a darker terasaur. They had a wingspan of 40 to 50 feet.

That was indigenous to South Texas during the Plet, during the Cretaceous era, 6,6 million years ago. Mm-hmm. So maybe these creatures are still around, but just for me, I believe a creature that was 50 to 60 feet, a wingspan will probably see a lot more than what we've seen nowadays. But I do believe maybe some of these sightings are what we now know is a Thunderbird phenomenon. A large giant bird, not a large giant terosaur. It's wild. It's wild to think of that the possibility. because the weird thing about there's if you look at let's say look at the world there are these stories from different parts of the world's the world of you know you've got I believe there's a cryptid in Australia where they saw like a T-Rex you know type type creature I think there was a T-Rex seen up in the Yukon of some sort you know you've got in the Congo you've got your you know you always have they're talking about

Macalienbembe, yeah. Do you think there's something to this? Maybe still living dinosaurs around or just, it's very weird to think about it. Do you have any thoughts about that? What you referenced earlier is the Bauer of Oscar. And also, I think it was like a seratosaurus that was supposedly seen in the Yukon. With me, I've done quite a bit of research into non-avian dinosaurs and paintology. When me personally, I don't put a lot of merit into the living dinosaur phenomenon.

Because if you look at it, a lot of these descriptions are what we thought dinosaurs looked like. Like, for instance, the saratos outside in the Arctic. They described a creature that stood upright, but it's tail dragging around the ground. That was what we thought dinosaurs looked like back in the 1900s. And it wasn't until recently, it passed until the 1960s, I realized there are pods. Their bodies were parallel to the ground. They seem like what you see big, like, you see like T-Rex in like Jurassic Park. Their tails are not jogging along the ground, but people describe that.

So how are people describing something that never existed in reality? They never existed in the false record. If you look at a lot of the, actually, if you look a lot of the prehistoric, like creatures that supposedly live in Africa. Mokhameh Mena Toka, Kangamoko, Ninkinaka, Nogunamonin. I believe a lot of these cryptids, honestly, you'll probably create it thanks to people's belief set. Because this is not knocking any of the researchers that do this research, of course not. But a lot of people that do the research in living dinosaurs are younger of creationists.

Sure. So they believe their Earth is 6,000 years old. So you kind of have that standard that they're going to, of course, find evidence that support their belief sets. And maybe not listen to the scientific data and all that. And a lot of these cryptids are describing like what we saw as dinosaurs lagging in 1800s. Like the Mukai and Mbemba, for instance, they describe a soil pod that lives in the rivers and things like that and eats off of, like, tree. above the jungle and things like that and that they even some stories said they ate meat and that they were highly territorial but if you look at what we now know the soil pods they more

likely persisted in desert environments and the idea of them living in water very similar to like what you saw in the land before time right doesn't exist like that's not how they were oh you're killing me It's very much true. Yeah, because there's even a YouTube channel, I think, called, like, what you think about dinosaurs are wrong. Oh, that's funny. What we see in media is very not, it's very unlike what we actually see in reality. And we see the actual paleological record.

Wow. Wow, man. Yeah, a lot from that as well. Bringing it back to Texas for a bit, you've got a, the name of the company escapes me, but do you have any thoughts on there's this weird trend where companies are like

let's bring back the mammoth, let's bring back the thylacine. What's the deal with that, Ryan? Have you heard about this yet? Yes, I know about the thalcine clothing project. Yeah. Of course we've heard about Mnif one past couple decades. Sure, yeah, yeah.

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That's true, yeah. Well, the thylacine, I'm not even sure what you would base to thiosine on because it has to be based on the extant species. So, like, I don't know if they're trying to make a Tasmanian devil larger, because that's one of the closest extant species that are similar to thylacines or something like that. But what you're getting is not truly what

you had in prehistory or even dallasenes only got out maybe a couple if they even died out a couple hundred years that's true yeah that's true if they even died out yeah yeah so what you're getting is like it's not really a genuine creature it's what you create in our lab it's very much i don't know why we keep bringing a Jurassic Park but what the beginning are park monsters not real species right So that's just what my belief is because I know even with the mammoth project, it goes hand and hammer what you call a placidine park. It's a park based up in Siberia. What they want to do is bring back the mammoth. Ryan, what are you talking about?

This is a real thing? Yes. Really? Yeah. What they're doing is I'm trying to create a historic environment. They're already doing so because they've brought back some, well, not brought back, but they're bringing in species that haven't been indigenous there for thousands of years, like musk oxen, certain species of horses, the Saba Antelope. All these creatures look aside alongside mammoths, but they were pushed out of that environment. So what they're trying to do is bring back the environment.

So what they're trying to do now is bring back these prehistoric species, the Alaska Thorea, giant like the cyboral unicorn the mammoth even the cave bear and cave lions oh my goodness dude that environment's very similar to what we have nowadays but it's just that you have a couple missing species but these missing species are the largest species that largest mammals ever exist so it's kind of hard to bring those back but it's what they're trying to do as well is actually help the environment because this might go a little bit complex but up in Siberia you have the permafrost and the permafrost now is melting thanks to the environmental change right but what they're trying to do is when you bring back mammoths for instance what they do is they go and they take out they

take out trees and create more prairie and step like environment and doing so that would actually not release more CO2 in the air and exoromo CO2. So the effect would be bringing by a decrease climate change and hence so the permafrost wouldn't be as melting as fast as it is. So in a small way, nanobes would be going against climate change. Yeah. I'm not 100% sure on the science behind that, but I know it's there, but I'm not 100% sure. But you're saying they're wanting to bring back the predators too? Possibly.

Because with any environment, you would have predator and prey. Yeah, I know. But it's like, dude, you really want to bring back a cave bear? Like, oh, my goodness. Oh, well. They are very similar to Grisabers. Of course, they're highly different. But at least Ersusus, what was it?

Ursus, Pekliadas, the caves bear. It's very similar to the modern-day Octotus cymus. Okay. But Ursus Martimus, the polar bear, but it's a little bit different. They're a little larger than modern-negreiser bears, maybe about the same size as polar bears. But the only thing I'd worry about is if they try to bring back like the short-faced bear. That creature was a bear that's about a ton of weight. A ton of weight.

A ton of weight. was 13 feet tall. Oh my goodness, dude. Let's not bring that back because that truly is a monster. Just because we can, doesn't like to, you know, kind of like Jurassic Park. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, you know. Like, yeah, don't bring back the bear that's a ton in weight. Holy mackerel.

Yeah. And actually, it's funny too because I'm a big fossil fan and I actually have a skull of a, well, so if we're looking at me right now, actually. Yeah, cool. And the skull itself is about two times the size of a human head. So I'm like, that's something I would not want to bring back. But interesting fact, there are some people that believe this creature is somehow existing modern day in Alaska. Because a lot of people see giant bears in Alaska, but they describe bears with shorter, like shoulder head than polar bears and grizzly bears and longer legs.

And that's exactly what the short face bear look like. So maybe in the areas up in Yukon, Alaska, and Northern Canada, these creatures could still be a living. But it'd be just a very small population. It seems like you hear the really weird stuff from like the Yukon are way up there. Just there's got there's got to be some weird stuff up there, Ryan. And I mean, it's not really explored. Yeah, if you ever heard like the Headless Valley, the Nahani Valley, that alone is a very peculiar place by itself. Yeah, share that with our listeners if they haven't heard that.

It's a very interesting story. Of course. The Mahani Valley, it's a place up in, I believe, the Yukon or at least normal Canada. I forget the exact coordinates. But it's a place that for a long time, people believe there's several unknown species living there. You have an Akani, which is a name for a human or bigfoot-like creature that lives up there. People describe the Wahila. The Wahila is described as a giant bear wolf hybrid mix that was white in color, which is very similar to what we have is the amphision, a bear dogs.

but those were extinct supposedly 10,000, 10 million years ago. There was even some reports up there people seeing modern day mammoths. And the Nahani Valley, there's some places that were so unexplored. Some like prospectors described areas that were like tropical almost, almost like a modern day like lost world or something like that. But of course, those stories would be perpetuated a lot back in 1800s and 1900s and bring up like prospectors and terrorists.

And of course, some of the Hany Valley is named Headless Valley because I believe it's five different prospectors went up there and at different times. But when they were found, they were found without their heads and, of course, killed. What they were killed by, no one knows. It could have been some unknown predator. It could have been some unknown, uh, feral human tribe, because there's some stories of the not

the hot the Nakhani but it's a very similar tribe of people but not Bigfoot and not anything else to describe people up there like some like unknown relic caveman or something like that

to live up there in the Nahaany Valley and these are what might be killing people but what ultimately it is it's just a very weird area you have sightings of like Bigfoot like creatures. you even have some stories of the little flits oh the anahakana in the hakana i believe they call them

they're like gnome like creatures they describe like bigfoot like creatures but only maybe four to five feet tall and that they hug people like iwaks that are really mean almost you can think of it like that but if you've ever heard of the proto pigmy phenomena okay yeah people just yeah people describe that occurring up there as well so this not just not Hohani Valley, it has a lot of stories in it, but if they're all true, we're not sure. I'm pretty sure not all of them can be true because that's kind of, I don't know how a place like that could even exist. Like, I would hope that I all true, but it's just a very peculiar area, mostly thanks to the weird depths up there and how remote it is. You can only get up there by plane.

There are no roads that lead up there. I was going to ask, I was going to say this place must be, entirely remote and hard to get to if you know you'd think with all those crazy stories some some expedition would go up there and you know some travel channel discovery would try to blow the lid off of it but doesn't sound like it's happening yeah i know it's actually a see it's actually a national park now national preservation oh really and if you look up i'm trying to think of the title of the book i think it's legends that are Nahani Valley, I believe it's by

Harrison Peters. Oh yeah. He puts in a lot of those stories. And not the Nahany Valley, but also Northern Canada. So if anyone was interested in reading up more about that, I would say check out Legend of Nahani Valley.

And also, I know Harrison Peters also has a YouTube channel. He does, yeah. He has a lot more information than I could ever really put in there. So I'd say probably go check that out. fast it's that's fascinating um bringing it back to texas uh you know there was this there was a big big thing that happened over the well i'm trying to remember how long ago it was but uh down in amarillo

and you know what i'm talking about yeah yes what did what do you have any thoughts on uh on this whole amarillo Damaril dog man Yeah the zoo picture Yeah What I personally believe is that I don't think it shows a biological creature

What it is is most likely Either something that was blowing in the wind Or maybe a person in a suit Because I looked up the type of camera And all that they show And that picture that they had And the distance away from the camera, there shouldn't be just one photo.

There should be several photos. And actually the zoo does say that that's actually a video camera. So it took a video and that's just one screenshot from the video. So with me, I'm like, that's kind of suspicious that you don't put the video out there. You don't show other correlating, like cameras that were also pointing at that same location. So overall, it makes me think, okay, it could have been just a platform. publicity stunt, which it's not knocking to zoo or anything like that, but it's most likely that's what it is. Because if you look, even if you look at the picture itself, if that was a creature, it doesn't make sense of how it's walking.

It's a center of gravity. It's behind it. No animal walks like that. Yeah. And if you look at the legs, either the legs are obscured by grass or it looks like it doesn't have a bottom of the leg. so it's just really weird in general and I personally believe it's either some type of a hoax or maybe people were scrubbing through and they saw a picture and they saw okay that looks like something it's we know it's a piece of trash but it looks like something so they put that out there

yeah in order to get publicity yeah I think I'm you know when I think of the whole it probably at the end of the day it was a very smart marketing ploy But, you know, need more evidence to say 100% on my case. But, you know, the other news that came out of Texas not too long ago is were you able to see, wasn't there like a dinosaur trackway found in a riverbed? Actually, yeah. That's fairly, well, not happened a couple years back. We're talking about the same one.

I think it was like in the last few months, maybe. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that one. Yeah, yeah. That actually happened, actually very close to my home. Oh, wow. And a couple years back, they also found a dinosaur trackway.

Oh, okay. But in recent years, things to drought and things like that, they'll find, they're able to find a dinosaur track rate very close to there. The other than Canyon's only maybe 30 minute to an hour drive away from my home. And actually here in San Antonio, we have the Witty Museum. And the Indian Museum actually has a replica of that trackway in its museum. And it shows supposedly, I think, it's an aquacanosaurs and some type of hadrosaur that was indigenous here during the Cretaceous era. Because during the late Cretaceous, Texas was actually covered by water.

We had the western inland sea that covered from all the way up to Mississippi River Delta all the way up into Canada. this is one giant seaway we had creatures like elaspasaurus a dinosaurus a giant crocodile those are swords that slam above my head and actually above your head as well out of Iowa so we believe maybe these uh trackways from an ancient maybe a beach or maybe an area between like the ocean and the land area now at least that's what we believe this animal is walking along the beach and now has its fossilized tracks. Fascinating. In our last few minutes together, is there anything cool that you are currently researching right now,

cryptidwise, in Texas that you can share? As of now, not much. Like, I am going to try to talk to Bear County Bigfoot to go into more detail with his research. Nice. I know right now, thing i'm really working on is my second book as of now and trying to go to conferences and things like that totally i have a pretty big busy schedule but i try my best try to get all that's taking care of um and the podcast of course definitely is there a uh do you have a time in mind uh for when the

second book might be coming out or is it uh when it's when it's good enough it'll be out uh when it I try to have a goal of trying to reach it by the end of this year, but how busy my schedule is and working. I'm trying to push it back to maybe next year at some point. I want to try to get out by maybe April the next year. So as of now, I'm doing introduction, research, and all that stuff. And it's going to be Sasquatch, a prehistory of a living legend. And it's going to be primarily about like the, well, speculative evolution of Sasquatch and where it came from. And that's what we'll be working on right now.

Very interesting. As we close out, Ryan, it's been a pleasure having you on. Could you share with the listeners how they can keep up to date best with everything you've got going on? Of course. I do have a Facebook page. If you look up Ryan Edwards on Facebook, hopefully that'll be one of the first people to pop up. In case you don't see, in case you don't know, my profile pictures, me. with a smile at on skull so that's fairly distinctive I also have a YouTube channel

check out the Crypto Chronicles on YouTube that's my podcast comes out every Saturday night at some 7 o'clock 8 p.m it's a live show so I try to have as many people go there live as they can so they can talk to me and have a discussion with my guests and whoever I have and me I also have an Instagram that's the R. Edwards underscore Crypto 25. Facebook, Instagram. I do have a website if you look up to Cryptochals.net. That's why I post my podcast,

link to my book, a couple other reviews, and some of my interviews. If you want to go there, if anyone is interested in checking out my book, Crypts of the world, a conclusive guidebook to the menager of unknown creatures in around our world, That's available on Amazon, Bonoble, half price books, anywhere where books are sold, you can find it.

But I do have a link to it on my Facebook and my YouTube. So if you want to go check out my book and my podcast, just check out the Crypto Chronicles on YouTube and my channel will pop up. Fantastic. Ryan, I can't wait to see what comes out from you in the future. You're a very knowledgeable young man and you got a lot of cool stuff coming up ahead of you. I can just tell. But thanks again for hanging out with us, Ryan. Of course.

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