Bigfoot Society - Dogman Unleashed and Being Silenced by the MIB with the Squatch Father, Al Santariga, Pt. 2

Episode Date: September 30, 2023

Al Santariga “The Squatchfather” is a New York State based Bigfoot and Dogman researcher among many other things.Enjoy Part 2 of my interview with THE SQUATCH FATHER which focuses on Dogman and MIB.This episode gets more wild than you could ever expect so...GET READY!!!Resources: Facebook Bronxville Paranormal Society BPS - https://www.facebook.com/groups/355803847924300New York State Dogman Project - https://www.facebook.com/groups/nysdpWATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzECall the Bigfoot Society BIGFOOT ENCOUNTER hotline! Have you seen a Sasquatch and would like to get what happened “off your chest” but don’t have time for an interview? NOW YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR TIME AND SHARE IT WITH THE WORLD! Share it here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsocietyTo unlock more bonus content and much more, become a supporting member of Bigfoot Society by joining the Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyBecome a Youtube Channel member here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinSupport Bigfoot Society one time by buying me a coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety To pick up a Bigfoot Society shirt, stickers and more, check out our merch by heading on over to https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietySend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165 Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!”If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! —— Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR —— My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcN Lose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card. https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsocietyIf you want an amazing website like Bigfoot Society has that is extremely easy to set up and connects to your podcast in an incredible way then check out Podpage. https://www.podpage.com/?via=jeremiah (Use this affiliate link and you help out Bigfoot Society)

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Links to those are in the show notes. In Bigfoot Society, I've taken far too much of your time so far, so let's get on with the show. Al Santorega, the Squatchfather, I would love to talk to you a little bit about Dogman. So you're not only just into Bigfoot, but you're also looking into Dogman in the state of New York. Can you tell my listeners like, what is going on with Dogman in your state? Well, I mean, it's not just my state. It's every state.

If you have Sasquatch, you have Dogman. Okay. There's no doubt in my mind about that. At one of my locations I go to, the Sasquatch, is on the east side of the mountain range and the dog men, no, the Sasperch are on the west side of the mountain range, I'm sorry, and the dogmen are on the east side of the mountain range. And they're everywhere. They're not just here in New York. They're, there, wherever you have Sasbatch, wherever you have these large national forests, you'll find these creatures. I mean,

we've actually taken reports of them being at Central Park in New York City. being spotted. You know what I mean? So they're not just in the woods. They're in the cities too. Yeah, no, like I said, what happened was originally when we were getting invited to symposiums,

we were going as the Bronxville paranormal society because we did everything. We were getting a lot of grief from, like, the ephologists. Oh, what does the ghost hunters know about UFOs or what the cryptid people would say, what is the, you know, you ghost trying to know about cryptids. So we just took the BPS team and we split it up into different groups.

So when we go to these symposiums now, we can hang our banner that says, if we're at a UFO conference, like every year up here in May, they have the Pine Bush UFO Fair. Pine Bush is supposed to be the UFO capital in New York State. We go there, we get invited every year, we go there. We were actually on the,

board at one point. We go there every year and we put up all of our UFO banners, you know what I mean? And now nobody gets us any grief because you don't have to deal with like the Mufon people or stuff like that, you know, because if you're not part of Mufon, they look at you cock-eyed, you know what I mean? So I am part of Mufon, so I get invited anyway, you know. But even if I go as the New York State UFO project, I don't catch any grief. And that's how all the all the groups actually got started you know what i mean we said we know we don't we didn't come here to fight with anybody let's make everybody happy and we'll britt will have the same team to give it different labels different parts of the you know one of one unit and um so we when we did the dog man stuff

we came up with the dogman uh the new york state dogman project um we were actually before we started the the New York State Dogman Project, we were, like my and my partner, Brian, we were um, national, North American Dog Man Project New York State Chapter directors. That's what our title was. Okay. And then, um, there was an issue with somebody on the, the NADP and us. I'm not actually my partner. And so we decided to just walk away from that, start our own group. We ended up with the New York State Dogman Project. But eventually that guy left and, you know, Jody Cook, who's the founder of it, asked us to come back and be directors.

As a matter of fact, they want me to be the regional director, the Eastern Regional Director, but I really don't have time to be the region. I can barely have enough time to be the state director, never mind the whole region, you know. But so we started our own thing. And we knew we had experienced dog manics at a couple of different locations. And we knew where they were.

And, you know, went to, if we went to certain locations, like, long story show, we found a den. and in the den, right? I was being pulled into the woods. Don't know why. Being pulled into the woods. Long story short, we find the den. And we zoom into the den.

My camera guy has like this camera that you can see the alien bases on the moon. And he zooms into the den. And there's a giant canine head, like a wolf head facing south. and right next to that is another one that looks like a hyena snarling at us. Okay. And we were actually at that location months before where we were bluff charged. And at that point we were bluff charged, we thought we were being bluff charged by a big foot

because the big foot came out and did three whoops. And then it did tree knocks, and I did tree knocks, and they did rock knocks. And then eventually it threw a rock at us the size of a bowling ball that came down over the trees and landed in between all three of us. And hindsight being 2020, it was trying to get us out of that location because we were in a danger zone. You know, we didn't know that the dogman's den was behind us in the swamp.

We were up on a high ridge. And it was trying to get us out of there. But we, I was very stubborn that night. I wouldn't leave. And eventually the Bigfoot backed away. And the dog man, Bluff charges, came charging up the ridge after us. And we pulled out our machetes and we stood our grounds. And we heard it come charging up like a quadruped charging up the ridge.

But it never came over. It was like a little stone, three foot stone wall. It never came over the stone wall. We thought it the whole time we thought it was the Bigfoot. Months later, we put it. all our evidence out on our pages, on our YouTube page and on our Facebook page. And actually, somebody from, I think it was from California, called me up and said, you know, in that one photograph you took of that stone wall?

And I was like, yeah. He says, there's a dog man in that photograph. I was like, send me the picture. He sends me the picture. I thought it was Photoshopped, right? I look at it. I take my SD card out of my camera. I put it in my computer.

and right there. I mean, I don't know how we didn't see it, but there it is. And I believe it's the one that looked like the hyena that was standing behind the wall sniffing us. And you could see its nose, and it's got a square mug and a snout, and it's got pointed ears, and you can see its eyes shine from the flesh of the camera.

And then that same guy sent me and he called me up again. He said, hey, Al, you know, you got a big foot in that picture of you guys at. the meadow was we had moved out of that location at one point and moved to another location we were doing three different one two three different locations that night and he said you know you got a big foot underneath the tree at the meadow and I was like what are you talking about and he said it to me again I thought it was photoshopped and again I put the SD card in there and there you know in the shadows of the of the photo underneath this one little red oak uh maybe tree. The only tree that has leaves on it, right, is this giant Sasquatch head. And you can see it's like leaning on its belly and it's on its forearms and it's watching us. Now, I don't know if it was watching us because what we were doing, there was a lot of stuff going on in the metal and it's way too much to get into now. But if it was watching us because of all the activity we had going on,

or if it was just hanging around to make sure those two dogmen didn't come out of that day, and shred us, you know? But I think the reason why that one dog man chose not to come over over that wall was because all three of us did have 18-inch machetes, you know what I mean? And I believe the dog man and the Bigfoot as well respect of the long blade more than the gun, you know, because they've been on this planet for millennium. they've probably dealt with men for thousands of years and seen what swords and spears and long knives can do

to each other to them as well, you know? So, yeah, I think it was those long blades that stopped. And I think it was because we were set up in like a triangle formation with me at the front. And I got to be brutally honest with you, when I heard this thing coming up the ridge and you could hear the bipedal because it was, again, it was in the fall and there was a lot of leaflet and you can hear all four legs hitting the ground

jump running coming up i thought not that i thought it was the bigfoot charging us i thought it was either a black bear or a mountain lion and i said oh my god this mountain lion is going to come over this wall and i'm going to be the first person that sees i'm going to have to sacrifice my left arm and stab it with my machete you know what i mean and um but nothing came over the wall we And but the crazy thing is we never heard it leave either. You know, as loud as it was coming up the ridge, it never made it sound leaving. So I don't know where it went. But that's a long, it's another experience that goes on.

That's a long experience had so much stuff involved in that. If I tell you everything that happened on that night, it would blow your mind. Oh, absolutely. And it's crazy because you kind of, there's a place I was wanting to go. and you kind of already went there a little bit, so I'm excited you already did. But let me preface this question a little bit. So there's a podcast I love called Cryptids of the Corn,

and they have an episode about Dogman, but it's specifically down in Kentucky. And it's not all about Dogman, but it talks about how the potentiality that Dogman could be a misidentified North American hyena. And you kind of brought up that what you saw looked like a hyena in that sighting. Do you have any thoughts?

Like, do you think there could be a correlation there? Or if you think Dogman is another thing entirely, what do you think this creature is? I personally, I believe there are a couple of different misidentifications. I believe there is a creature that is wolf-like that can go by people. that is flesh and blood. I believe it's a... I don't know where it's from or how it got here,

but I believe there is a flushing blood creature. All of the world-renowned psychics that I have met over the years at all the symposiums, whenever I get to sit down at a table with one of these psychics, I have to pick their brains. And one of the first questions I always ask them is, what's your opinion on dog, man? And they always tell me interdimensional being.

That's what they tell me, interdimensional being. Now, I believe there are dogmen that are interdimensional beings. But then there are people who say that dogmen come in their house, this and that, the other thing. And I think the creatures that they're seeing that are actually coming into these people's homes and scaring them and threatening them and are, demonic creatures that are using their fear of the dog man to get that adrenaline, you know what I mean? That's the rush from them to feed off of that sphere. You know what I mean?

I don't believe that even if the dog man is interdimensional and can go from our dimension to another realm, I don't think necessarily it's using that ability to pop in and out of people's homes. you know, I've heard too many stories with, hey, we just rip the door off of hinges and shred everybody in the house. They're not popping in and out. You know, now I've, I've interviewed, I've talked to people who have killed these creatures. You know what I mean? So they can be killed. And I've talked to people who have shot them multiple times, follow them, follow the blood trail to a certain point.

And it just disappears. Those are the ones, I think, that are interdimensional. They go back to their dimension heel. And the ones that they actually, that are killed here, I believe, are flesh and blood creatures. So I think there's three variants of them as far as like flesh and blood, interdimensional. And demonic creatures that may resemble dogmen. But, you know, a demonic creature can resemble whatever your biggest fear is. You know what I mean?

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And things have just got very intense. And you're like, you know, I would much rather not be in the situation right now. Well, there was a time where we were, we were actually, we went out one night to do, there's an abandoned asylum here in New York State called Ledgeworth Village, okay? It's a whole village that's basically abandoned, but it was an asylum and it was a hospital. And we were investigating a hospital one time. We ran it to a security guard. And security guard said, you have to go to the.

the cemetery. The cemetery is really weird and that they've seen like these light orbs, like tubes of light come out of the ground, you know? And they said, you guys would love, you got to go there and investigate it. So we said, okay, we'll go investigate it. So one fall, my partner and I, Brian, we went, really guys on the team. I never had everybody on a team go out to any investigation completely. Or someone's always working or going to a wedding or something like that. So Brian and I, go out and we're now this particular cemetery not like any cemetery you've ever seen in your life and there's no signs for it i thought we were going to a city cemetery where you could drive right up to the plot you know what i mean um i've investigated a ton of cemeteries in new york and you

usually can drive through them but um we pull into this location it's in the it's just a like a dirt parking lot we pull in there and we go in and the cemetery there's a giant stone you know monument to all the people who are buried there with their names on it because there are no headstones there there are just crosses with numbers on it okay and it's and it's built on a hill so all the crosses go up the hill and it's in the middle of the woods I mean, we had to walk like a quarter mile into the woods to find this place, you know? And we actually had something attached to me there because Brian was like, what's wrong with you? And I'm like, you know, I'm in denial.

I'm saying like, there's nothing wrong with me. But I felt that there was something attached to me, you know. And he's telling me, oh, you don't sound like you or you don't look like you. You're not acting. And I'm like, oh, what hell am I acting like? Or who am I talking like, you know? But I had known. Yeah, and I was in denial.

He knew I was in denial. But so we were doing a day night, and we went there and we did all our stuff, all our testing during the day. And there was a, must have been like a dog kennel in the neighborhood because there were dogs were just going off and off and off. And I did a tree knock. I don't know why I did a tree knock, but I did a tree knock. And when I did a tree knock, the dogs all went silent. So we, so we made no other. That's very interesting.

You know, we started noticing, again, it's a location where we've been there for hours walking around, and it felt like we had blinders on. Like, we should be seeing more, but we're not seeing anything. But after that tree knock, it's like the blinders were removed, and now we're seeing axes and arches and bends and brakes and twist, and we're thinking, wow, this is really crazy, you know. This could be a hot location for Bigfoot being, but we're in the middle of us. you know but these woods the city's built around these woods so as we're walking out of the woods

i'm being pulled to my left i don't know why i'm being pulled to my left and so i said bry come this road we're walking we're walking we're walking and we're walking across this rocky terrain i mean you couldn't you couldn't run across this terrain if you tried if you went down you were breaking your knee your head whatever you had to be very careful and we came across this tree tree and the only way I could describe it is it looked like this giant oak tree what other trees, long trees, 60 foot trees jammed up into it. Okay. And it went around in a circle like a carousel. And to me, it kind of looked like an umbrella without any skin on it, you know, that was opened. And we're looking at this thing. And the trees that are jammed.

into the main tree are so big. I mean, there have to be a foot and a half in diameter. There's 60 feet of, but the crazy thing about it is they're not touching the ground. They're like nine feet in the air. And we're thinking, what had the strength to do this and still have these up nine feet in the air? They're not even hitting the ground, you know? And then Brian started getting pulled deeper into the woods. And I stopped him.

I said, Bryce, stop. I feel like we're being pulled into a trap. We're in a really, really bad place. We can't barely walk on all these rocks, you know. Never mind trying to run out of here. Let's back out of here and come back later. So we backed out and come back later. A lot of crazy stuff happened that night when we were there.

But as we were leaving, we had to park the Jeep across the street. There was one street. street light on this whole block. And it was by the entrance of a hiking trail. And I had a Jeep. So I didn't know if I could park on the road. There was no cars parked on the street. There was no cars parked in the dirt park lot. So I didn't want to park there and let everybody know that there were people in the cemetery. So I parked underneath this streetlight. I got my Jeep up off the road onto the dirt and I parked underneath this streetlight right next to this hiking trail. and we went in okay and we're having all these experience and again the dogs and I'm walking with my camera recording and the dogs are all going off and then you hear this one dog or you know at the time we thought it was a dog okay it did something I don't know if you want to call it a bark

or a growl or whatever it was but it was so much louder and powerful than any of the other dogs. We just turned around and we looked at each other like, we know what that is. And all the dogs stopped barking at that point. And it got really quiet. And it came right from the direction where my Jeep was parked. Okay?

So now we're leaving the cemetery. We've got all the evidence. We're leaving. We got our headlamps on because we're walking out. It's in the dark. And we get to the edge of the road. It's a two-lane road. And my, my,

My Jeep is parked underneath the head of the lamp, the street lamp, the streetlight. And as we start to walk across the street, I see eyeshine behind my Jeep. But it's not like something small. It's like it looks like it's six feet tall, what's ever behind my Jeep. So I stop Brian. I go, wait, stop. I said, what's that? And he looks and he sees the eye shine.

And it's amber eye shine. And it's looking at us. and we're looking at it and you know and we're debating trying to be you know logical isn't a deer if it is it's a big buck you know i was like man that thing is like the size of marmer duke you know look at the size of that thing you know and i'm like now we don't have any weapons on us because we were we were going to a regular cemetery in the city so all i got on on me are two cans of pepper spray you know and so i gave one to brian and i had one on my bag and as we're walking close to it. I said, well, if it's a deer,

the closer we get to it, it'll jump off and run away. But the closer we're getting to it, now we're in like the middle of the road and I'm getting these really, really bad vibes. Like, this is not good. And I turned to Brian, I said,

Brie, this is not no deer. You know, I didn't use that language, a little profanity. I said, this isn't any deer. Because whatever this thing is, it's not run. I said, whatever this thing is, it's hunting that trail. Now, if it's hunting that trail,

and it's six feet tall, because the eye shine is about as high as I am six feet tall, either it's standing straight up or it's something sitting on its haunches. And if it's something sitting on its haunches, how tall is it when it stands up? And I told Brian, I said, either this thing, and neither one of us wanted to use the D word, right?

I said, either this thing is hunting that trail because deer use it to go back and forth across the road and it's a good hunt, a good ambush spot, or it's hunting that trail because it thinks some idiot is parked here jogging this trail at night and it's, and we're easy prey. You know what I mean? And Brian's like, I don't know, Alist, we'll just keep going.

and maybe it'll run off. As we get closer and closer, my spidey sense is tingling, and I'm like, dude, I don't like this. I feel vulnerable. This is no good. This is that and the other thing. And then Brian says,

I have to piss. And I was like, well, you're not pissing here. Get in the Jeep and I'll pull on the other side of the road and you can piss in the empty lot across the street because I don't know what this thing is. And it's not leaving. You know what I mean? It hasn't moved.

He's like, no, I have to go right now. If I don't go right now, I'm going to pee in your car. So you're not going to pee in my car. So you better go. So he steps out behind the car, a couple of feet. I'm throwing all our equipment into the back of my Jeep. Never taking my eyes off of this thing. Because I am getting such bad vibes that we are in harm's.

way and we both know we just both know we're dealing with a dog man here and we're and he's peeing and he's doing this piss that goes on for like three hours and i'm screaming and cursing at him get in the effing car brian or i'll leave you and he's like you're not going to leave me what would you tell my wife and kids ha ha ha ha i'm like dude get in the car because i swear to god i feel like if this thing explodes out of this woods, not only is he a dead man, because he's got his back to him, but I'm a dead man.

The only thing I got between me and him is my cheap door. So eventually this creature goes dark. Now, I don't know if it closed its eyes or if it shut off the light in its eyes. I don't know what it did. But every fiber of my being was telling me that it had dropped down to its best. belly and it was belly crawling towards Brian.

I jumped in the Jeep and I backed the Jeep up as close as I can to him without hitting him or the tree. And I swing my passenger inside door open to put it in between him and this creature. Because that's the only thing that is going to stop this creature from grabbing him and ripping him to shreds of that door. And at some point during his 20 minute pit, he got goosebumps from head to toe that he was in harm's way. And he said, okay, now it's time to go. And he jumped in that truck. And I did a dukes of hazard, 360 out of air.

And I couldn't get out of air fast enough kicking up dirt. And I don't know how close we came to being killed that night. But I'm going to say we came pretty damn close, considering we didn't have any weapons to defend ourselves. That's intense, man. That could have ended a whole different way. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. Scariest thing is that you said it's in the middle of a city, like a city town where it's unexpected. Yeah. There's like a little, there's like a little, little neighborhood built right across the street. But like I said, you can't see the neighborhood from the cemetery because you're still a quarter mile away in the woods, you know? And there's nothing but woods around you. you know and yeah and i think it was that dog man that made that structure because i had never seen anything quite like that in my life and it was just the most craziest looking structure you

ever seen it really was and i believe and this is just one man's opinion i believe that dogman seen that jeep and said oh easy price someone is hiking this trail and it's at night and it's And I'm just going to sit here for whoever this idiot is to come running down the trail. And I'm going to grab them and drag him away and no one will ever find them. And but we didn't come down the trail. We didn't go up the trail. We came from across the street. And its eyeshine gave it away, you know, because you couldn't see it in the, in the, even though it was the fall, it blended in to the shrubs and everything.

You couldn't see it. And I, I'm telling you, when I, when that thing went dark and I can no longer see it's ours, every alarm in my brain was going off. Time to leave. Time to leave. I couldn't get Brian to get in the car. I just wanted to put that road in my car between him and that creature while he went and urinated, you know what I mean?

Yeah. But he wouldn't, he said he couldn't make it across the street. How long was it going to take us to get across the street? Five seconds, ten seconds. He couldn't make it, he said. And I was like, dude, you're going to get us both killed. You know? Right.

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I had a, how do I put this? I had men and black experience over my dog man investigations. I wasn't necessarily guys in black, but they looked like special ops guys. You know what I mean? And they knew everything about me

and Brian and our groups and everything. And we held two meetings, one downstate, one upstate, and everything about everything. and threatened me with stuff that was so vile that I was like, listen, keep me out of woods for two years. You know, I didn't go back in the woods,

but they do monitor these creatures, you know. And so, yeah, I mean, just the second group were Native Americans that I know. There's an Iroquois Museum not far from my house. And whenever I get the opportunity to go there, I like to go there and do a tour. And, you know, they know me now. I've picked enough brains.

And I go to there and I talk to the elders and I pick their brains about stuff. And whenever the tribes in this area have powwows, they have two or three of them in this area. I go to all three. Again, I try to sit down with the elders and the shamans and pick their brains. I've been to enough room now that they know who I am. You know what I mean? So they tell me stuff. And one of the ones that were, that told me about them killing the dogmen were the Native Americans.

They said they killed them and they buried them in the sacred cemeteries. You know, their sacred sites, you know. So they just buried them. Yeah. That's incredible. But, yeah. Yeah. So I mean, you know, like I said, the ones that are flesh and blood,

can be killed. And honestly, personally, I believe the ones that are even interdimensional when they're here in our dimension, they're flesh and blood, and they can be killed as well. You know what I mean? So the only thing you really can kill are the ones that are demons that are disguising themselves as dogmen. But the other two, I believe, could both be killed. And like I said, now, The guys I know, the hunters that I know that killed them at their hunting lodge up in the Adirondacks. You know what I mean? They buried them on their property and the Native Americans on their reservation, you know.

Bolt groups, the ones that they burnt and buried the bones because no one wants to deal with any concussions from the government, you know. So I don't know what the government has to do with these creatures or what they're, you know, what's going on, why they're monitoring them or what they're monitoring. But, you know, no one, no one wants to deal with the government when it comes to this stuff because, believe me, they don't play games. They, they don't play games. When I was had my experience, I felt like I was going to get whacked that day. I said, all these guys are going to whack me. Just leave me here. Just left me, it's lunched over my car, you know.

Never mind all the vile stuff they were telling me that they were going to do to me. If I didn't stay out of the woods. Did they show up at your house? No, but they followed me for about two weeks every day. They would just, they would like they would fall out of the house. the sky in the middle of the park where they would be behind me every day. And it didn't matter what time I left to go to work or what time I left work to come home. I don't know if they were tracking me. There was a certain location that every time I passed it, two minutes later they were

behind me. I don't know where they came from. They just, boom, they were behind me, you know. And so I don't know if they were tracking my car or what, because I was trying to bury my time going to work from one day I would go four o'clock five o'clock six o'clock and it didn't matter no matter what time I went past that one exit boom two minutes later they were they were and they would follow me for a couple exits and then they would get off just to remind me that they were that they were still watching me you know so wow and the same thing coming home it didn't matter if I worked eight hours 10 hours and 12 hours whenever I came home so as I passed that exit there they were it's just to fall out of the sky never even seen them come on and get on the

parkway all of a sudden they're right behind me just like they fall out of the sky what you're saying eventually came to a head where there was a confrontation and they were actually telling you to stay out of woods the very first time they pulled me over they pulled me over there's an abandoned ski lodge up here off the parkway that i drive through and i drives on and it has this giant parking lot you know you would imagine a big park in left with ski lodge, right? And they had a lot of like construction material, the dirt and rocks and stuff. And one day I was driving home,

just cruising up the parkway, chilling, you know, with an into son, Leonard Skinner, just minding my own business. When this car pulls up behind me, falls out of the sky. And it's up here, the state police have blue and gold cars, and the park police have white and green cars.

see this park police car pull up behind me, put its lights on, and tell me over the loudspeaker to pull into the abandoned, you know, get the ski resort. So I pull in. I know I'm not speeding. I'm just cruising, you know what I mean? And I pull in and he tells me go behind that big pile of rocks, you know, like gravel. So I go behind it, which didn't feel right to me to go behind her. Like, so no one could see me back there, you know, and then I get back there. And again, on the loudspeaker, they say, shut the car off, take the keys out, throw it on the floor of the passenger side, leave you seat belt on and put your hands on the steering wheel and roll down the windows. So I do what they're saying is I don't want to get shot. You know what I mean?

I don't know who these guys are, these cars. I'm assuming they're regular cops, you know? And then they get out of the car. And both of these guys look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know what I mean? And a long guy pulls out a little black book And he starts reading off of all this stuff about me And he's screaming at me You know, you think you know what you're dealing with

You have no clue what you're dealing with Stay out of Long Woods And I was actually Research in a certain location at that time That I had just seen a dog man at that location You know So I was researching that area And then the other guy starts screaming

And they're both screaming at me from both sides of the car, but neither one of them came close enough to put their hands on the car. I said, if they put their hands on the roof, like maybe I get their fingerprints, you know? And then I said, well, let me see some ID because you guys are in plain clothes.

The guy goes, you want to see ID? I go, yeah, I want to see an ID. He showed me his gun. He goes, this is my ID. I said, okay, that's good enough for me, you know? And then the other guy actually pulled out a badge, but it was like the band. edge didn't match the car.

It was like they pulled the badge off of a wall or something. You know what I mean? Like maybe you're a retiree cop or something. I don't know. Nothing felt right. You know, it didn't feel right. The whole thing. And they're screaming at me and it tell me this and they tell me that.

And stay out of the woods. And if you don't, you know, not only are you going to lose your pension, but you're going to, the other really, really bad things are going to happen to you. We have the ability to do whatever we need to do to you. the technology and everything else, you know. And I'm like, you know, time out, calm down. What do you guys want? Just tell me what you want.

You got it, you know? And then they're screaming, stand, the woods. We don't want you going into the woods. We don't want you going into state parks, county parks, national parks. We don't even want you going to the soccer field. You know what I mean? They didn't want me in any kind of park, you know? And I was like, okay.

And we were doing a UFO meeting upstate that Thursday. We did a paranormal one down in Westchester and a UFO one up in Dutches County where I live. And we were doing a UFO meeting. And, you know, we've had a couple of experiences where people came in that we thought were feds, you know, just the energy they put off. We both look at each other, as I said. That's a Fed, you know. He's just monitoring the group.

and then one of the guys says to me oh by the way what are you guys discussing Thursday night you know and Red Hook because that's where it was and I go UFOs and the other guy goes yeah stick to UFOs

nobody gives a shit about them stay out of my woods I was like until somebody does give a shit about it until somebody does give a shit about it right and then comes and knocks on my door but I was like okay no problem then just before they left they turned to me they go oh by the way

tell you're fat effing friend my partner Brian that we know where he lives. They gave me his building number. He lived in a big building down in the Bronx. He gave me his building number, his apartment number, everything. You know, and it said, tell him it would be terrible. Because, you know, New York City, you can't own a gun. It's impossible to own a gun, right?

And they said it would be terrible if he got arrested as a domestic terrorist because you never know what kind of guns we can pull out of his apartment. And I was like, Oh, I said, look, I'll tell my partner, what you told me, but he's his own man. He's going to do what he wants. He's a big boy. But I'll pass the message along to him. And I called him up immediately and I was like, dude, you, you, this is just what happened.

You have to stay out of the woods. You have to, you have to, no, go into woods anymore. I said, if they arrest you as a domestic terrorist, you can't even call a lawyer. You have no rights as a domestic terrorist. God only knows what they'll say they pulled out of your apartment. You know, they may come out of there with a bazooka, who knows, you know?

And so he went out and he bought a two-way camera for his car. If he wanted to film him, you know, they pulled him over, you know. But he didn't, he, you know, we didn't do any more investigations in the woods. We started doing more C-E-5s and stuff like that. We stayed away from the woods for a couple of years

because no one wanted to, to deal with that nonsense, you know? Wow, but I'll tell you what they told me. Yeah. But I'm going on there, but. Yeah, no. I'm glad you made it through there. And it sounds like you are going back into the woods again.

So that is that is good. And hopefully nothing else comes out of that. I started going back in. I started going back in, um, two years ago. I think again when COVID, in 2020, I think, In 2021, I started going back in again. A couple of years had passed, you know what I mean? And I was like, okay, I think we're good.

I think, you know what I, honestly, I think what happened was, I happened to see one of these creatures at the location. So I went, which was one of my locations that I used for squashing, okay? So I happened to see one of these creatures there. So I started investigating it. I think they were there investigating at the same time and they seen me, you know, and I was messing up their investigation. And it just wanted me out of there because they were in the middle of something.

And then it needed to need some greenhorn like me, you know, coming in and messing up their gig, you know? So I think that's what that was all about. That makes sense. I haven't seen or heard. Yeah, I haven't seen it. I've been back to that location a couple of times now. And again, found all kinds of big foot footprints there. And a knee print, a fist print, all kinds of stuff.

No more, I haven't seen any more dogman evidence there. But I haven't seen anybody else there either. You know what I mean? So it's just been me. Oh, sure. Al-Santariga, Squatch, Father. This has been an incredible chat. I mean, you've got, you've been through some amazing things.

Thank you so much. for hanging out tonight for chatting and sharing some things with my audience. But what are ways that people can keep up to date with all this incredible things you've got going on? Yeah, you could just check out the Bronxville Paranormal Society on Facebook. We have a group page and we have a members page. The group, I do most of my posting in the group page. Brian does it on the other one. But we also update the New York City UFO project, the Dogman Project, and the Bigfoot project.

I'm actually going out October Friday to 13th. I'm going back out to do an investigation. There's going to be 1% of the moon out that night. So it should be an interesting night. And then I'm going back out on the 28th. There's going to be a full moon that night. So that should be interesting. and I want to compare how one, a full moon and a no moon, you know,

what kind of energy brings and what kind of evidence, you know, we can collect. So it should be interesting. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm sure we'll be hearing from you in the future. Al, and thank you so much for coming on tonight. No problem. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered

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