Bigfoot Society - Driving An RV Across America to Find Bigfoot!

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

Join host Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society as we delve into the world of Bigfoot research with Scot Violette of Squatch America. In this episode, Scot recounts his experiences from investigating sightings in the Blue Mountains of Oregon, where he encountered Bigfoot firsthand near Marble Creek. Discover how his studies of Native American pictographs have revealed ancient depictions of Bigfoot. Scot also shares his theory about Bigfoot as an older version of humans, and discusses the remarkable vocal abilities these creatures may possess, including infrasound. Hear about his travels across the U.S., from capturing reports in Texas to investigating hotspots near Crater Lake and Wendigo Pass in Oregon. Learn valuable tips for aspiring Bigfoot researchers and how Scot's unique, community-engaging approach, like holding Bigfoot town halls, helps gather vital information. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, Scot's stories and insights will leave you captivated and curious.Resources:https://www.youtube.com/@SquatchAmericaSee Scot's Bigfoot finds here - https://squatchamerica.com/unique-bigfoot-finds-from-squatch-america/Scot's video on his pictograph find - https://www.youtube.com/live/nFLm4qRWVOUMore information on the Tule River Pictographs (with photos) - https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/rhi/research-papers/Mayak-Datat-Hairy-Man-Pictographs-1.pdfSasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost.Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to [e-mail]. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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america i'm going to read a few things about scott he was nice enough to provide here he's a native american cultural anthropologists in the founder of squatch america which is a national Bigfoot Research Group. He's a Desert Storm Army veteran and travels the U.S. full-time in an RV with his wife, Hannah, investigating cryptic sightings and exploring Native American rock art related to Bigfoot lore. Of course, they have their YouTube channel, which we'll probably talk about later, and that's a mix of science history and hands-on research. Welcome to the show, Scott. How's it going, sir? It's going great. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. I do like it.

to start out when I have interviews with individuals such as yourself that are really have been into it for a while. I always like to know, you know, what was it that first got you into the the Sasquatch community? Well, it goes back quite a ways, actually. I was actually born in Eastern Oregon and I grew up in the Blue Mountains, which is heavily trafficked by Bigfoot and Bigfoot enthizious. I don't know if people are familiar with the Freeman film from the early 90s, I grew up 15 miles from where that film was taken. So, you know, Bigfoot folklore, I guess, was pretty common in the area I grew up in. But as a teenager, I really didn't pay too much attention to it. I thought, oh, that's kind of cool, you know, deal. But later on in life,

after I became a Native American culture anthropologist and started working with tribes all over the nation, I started to notice a common theme. Every tribe of the nation has a name for these things. and they all have legends and stories and history. And particularly my expertise in Native American culture is pictographs. I learned how to read them all four different languages of them. And when I started finding stories about Bigfoot on rocks, you know, that are hundreds of years old, that started to peak my interest a little bit. So after I retired, I thought, you know what, I'm going to look into this Bigfoot legend a little bit closer.

and as I started looking into it and I set up a Facebook page to try to get stories from people locally. As soon as I did that, I got hundreds and hundreds of stories from people in the area. And I'm like, wow, there's a lot more to this than I originally thought. And then I started delving in and I got hooked. So I've been there ever since. That's awesome. I mean, in this whole subject, it does not. I don't think it takes much to hook you.

If it gets you just right, you're in it for the long haul. So you made a local group in the, that was local to the Blue Mountain area you were saying? Yeah. Wow. Yes, it did. You've got hundreds of that. You must have gotten some really wild stuff from that area. Oh yeah.

And we still do today. We still get people telling us stories and finding things. It's amazing. So do you think that that area is, is definitely a active hot spot in the Blue Mountains current day. Oh, yeah, absolutely. We find footprints in that area almost every year. What a lot of people don't realize about the Blue Mountains of Eastern Oregon, it has, what is it, 26,000 square miles of forest that nobody lives in.

That's a plus. but the upper end of the Blue Mountain Range runs into Idaho and into Montana and connects with the Rocky Mountains and then the southern part goes south through the Ochoquo Mountains and connects with the Cascades which goes south into Northern California

and then into the Sierraes. It's a natural corridor between the two mountain ranges so I think if they do migrate or move from time to time, this is the corridor they take. We're basically a hallway, you know, to get from the Rockies to the Cascades. And so there is a lot of activity there.

You know, and I think as they move, it's where we're finding Bigfoot in that area all the time. You know, that actually, that just opened my mind to a way I have not looked at the mat before. And yeah, no, it totally, it could, yeah, it's a corridor from the Rockies. That's amazing. How does one become a Native American cultural anthropologist? Lots of college and bills. Student loans. Let's count student loans.

You know, basically what I originally went into college and I had, well, first I had a career in the military. And then when I got out, I used my GI Bill to pay for. So that helped a lot. But what got me interested in it is I had originally had went into college, just don't go into anthropology in general. And I didn't really have a direction in anthropology. It's a huge field, and there's a lot of directions. You can go in it.

And, but luckily, the college I went to, the professor there, was really into like the Native American side of things. and our college actually had an archaeological day on a Native American village. You know, that's 200 years old that we were sifting through. And it was part of our project every year to go work on this. And when I started seeing the pictographs and stuff in the area, I thought, wow, that is really cool. I really love the depictions.

Plus, my professor was also into Egyptian. folklore. So we actually had a whole course we had to do on Egyptian pictographs, you know, and stories. In fact, at the end of the year, one of our finals was you have to write, all you have to do is write your name on a piece of paper and turn it in. And if I can read your name in Egyptian hieroglyphics, you pass. So we actually had to learn, you know, that detail of Egyptian language. So when I started comparing that to the Native American language unlocks, I started discovering that, oh, this is easier to read than I thought it was. You know, a lot of the 90% of Native American pictographs are basically directions. You know, go up this mountain, there's deer, the rivers to the south, you know, stuff like that.

And when I started reading those, I'm like, oh, this is really cool. So I said, I want to learn this language. So that's what I got into it. So to get your degree, to start taking classes, I guess, I have to say, and then you'll find the direction in anthropology you'll like to go. Has there been an example of a pictograph that you've been able to see over the years that you feel is just a really good example of a Sasquatch pictograph? Yeah, I've got three of them, actually, that I've found over the years.

well, four technically, but one of them is kind of a secret deal and the tribe doesn't want it to be revealed. So I don't talk about that one too much, but there's the famous one that was originally found years ago in California and Porterville. There's a life size, a foot tall, pictograph of a Bigfoot family, and it tells a story. and what's really interesting about that one is a lot of people's talked about that pictograph for a long time but when I started looking at it I noticed something I don't think anybody else had noticed and there's two symbols on the bottom of the pictograph there's like a story of a hunting party hunting animals deer near a spring and they found footprints near the spring and they had an encounter with a big foot family

mother, father, and baby. But down at the bottom of it, it said the hunting party had symbols of an ancient weapon called an atlattle. And those atlattle symbols are very interesting because the tribe in that area have actually stopped using or transition to using bows from atlattle.

Atlattles are like a spear chucking device. And they had transition to using bows almost 2,500 to 3,000 years ago. So if this pictograph still had at levels on it, that dates it a little bit, you know, so I can say that that's possibly, you know, 2,500 to 3,000 years old picture of a Bigfoot. It's probably the first one we've ever seen.

And then I found two more with the exact same symbols on it, and the symbol for a Bigfoot is a creature with short legs, long body, long arms, but the arms are always, you see it like out from the shoulders with the arms hanging down from the elbows. And that is to symbolize the size of this thing and say, it's big. It's like this wide, you know, it's huge. And then they never have a neck and it's in the head, you know, it's roundish on top, but there's always a kind of a V from the head, which shows there's no neck. And which looks like what Bigfoot would look like to people today.

They have a longer torso than we do, the long arms, the huge bodies. So this depiction showing short legs and long arms is telling you that it's not the same proportion as a human. So I have found three of them. There's two in Oregon that I have found and two in California. Well, the one I can't talk about is in California. Right. The three main ones, three main ones are two in Oregon and one California. So I want to clarify something.

When you say the Porterville pictographs, is that the same one as the Tully River pictographs? Yeah, that's it. Okay, perfect. Yeah, it's just near the town. So you have actually, I didn't even think of that possibility. So you've actually found pictographs of Sasquatch yourself in your exploration. Yeah, two. Oh, my goodness.

I have. A lot of people walk by pictographs and petroglyphs, not even noticing that they're there. A lot of times, you know, like Moss on rocks, will cover them up and things. But if you know what to look for, and I've been doing this for quite a few years, I start noticing almost immediately when I walk into places. And, yeah, there's one in the Blue Mountains of Eastern Oregon, by the way, that it has three symbols on it. One of them is the Bigfoot symbol.

One of them's a stick man symbol. And the stick man symbol, I might add, is on the same one as the Tully River one. They have stickman on it, too. The stick man is a Native American, you know, danger symbol, basically. They don't even talk about them. If this is on a pictograph, that means danger. So it's got a big foot. It's got a picture of a stick man, and it has a pictograph of a circle with a line going into the top of the circle and coming out the bottom of the circle, but not through the circle.

And what that is is a directional symbol from Native American folklore. It means go up the trail, go around the valley, because it's right there pointing out a valley. Go around the valley, don't go through the valley, danger bigfoot. Basically is what that story says. This is absolutely fascinating. You know, I think most people are probably familiar with the Toolee River one, but I never thought of the possibility that there could be other form. of these same pictographs found in different areas.

You're saying the blue mountains of Oregon, then another area in Oregon, some unnamed areas in California. California, yeah. Is the second Oregon, is that in a similar geographic part of Oregon or are completely different geographic area of Oregon? It's in the southern part of the blue mountains down in the Ocichico Mountain.

where it's a little more desert either. You're still, it's still a mountain range, but it's more in the kind of the bad lands of Oregon is the one we found there, which has, it's got a thousand symbols on this one rock. And it's basically telling a story, but what's really cool about that one is,

it really caught my eye, and I thought this is the coolest part of this whole pictograph, is it has two rivers that come together, and it has two symbols of two different bears on there in different locations on the rivers. And then what it does is on one side, it has a large depiction of a bear claw, bear claw, you know, a footprint of a bear. It has that symbol there. And then next to it, it has a symbol of a big foot track.

So it literally points out the difference. We know the difference between the bear print and the big foot print. And then on the other river, it has a depiction of, it has the typical symbol of the big foot along the river with deer there. So they saw Bigfoot hunting deer by this river. The other river on the other side of the fork is where there are a lot of bears. So beware. It's really interesting the story that one tells.

Wow. this is absolutely blowing my mind right now. I mean, and so both of those were in Oregon were found down in the Blue Mountain area. Yep. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily? Yeah.

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that was carved on a rock that was found near the Columbia River. But that's the only other one that I know of. I mean, I'm sure there's probably many out there, but they're probably hidden in the woods somewhere. Nobody's just run across them yet. Wow. Man, it feels like, do you have pictures of what you found? Are these available on your website or YouTube channel at all?

Yeah, they're on our website on squashamerica.com. Okay. We'll definitely have that linked in the show knows. I'm probably just extremely late to this party is what it comes down to. but because I'm like, this is a really big deal, Scott. Scott's like,

I've known about this for a while. Yeah. This is cool. Oh, I love this. Dude, this stuff gets me jazzed up. And,

oh, yeah. Okay. So let's, how about this? Is there a catalyst event in your life that happened that really kick things off?

It's like, all right, now I'm going to take an RV around the U.S. with my wife and really, you know, is there something that happened to you that really got you on board with all this? Absolutely.

There is. I had mentioned I started that Facebook page and started getting stories from people. And up until that point, I was probably after studying, you know, footprint casts, you know, some of the famous ones from the past and some footprints that I had found. After studying those and noticing the more follow. in it because, you know, as, you know, when you go through anthropology school, you know, you have to literally take a human body skeleton that's in a box and put it together and name every bone in it. So you get to learn, you know, how humans are made and how the history of human development

and all that things. So looking into all this stuff, I was like probably 95% sure these things existed. you know i always had a little bit of doubt in the back of my head until june of 2018 what had happened was we got five reports from five people that didn't know each other in the same area in the same week and i'm like that's where i need to be you know so i was going out there i had been out there for two days in a row and i was going out for the third day and but anything happened on the way to Bigfooting. My wife's, one of her friends, her dad was having a birthday,

and his birthday wish was big footing because he'd never done it before. So they contacted me and said, hey, can you take this guy out Bigfooting with you tonight? And I'm like, it's his birthday. I'm like, sure, no problem. I'd never met the guy before the day, you know, that day. So he hopped in the truck with me. We drove up in the mountains and we went hiking down this trail that I had checked out, you know, the prior two days.

because that's where all these reports were coming from. And hiking along the trail, I smelled the worst smell I've ever smelled in my life. And I'm like, I've heard this described, but I've never experienced myself, you know, a wet dog garbage and onions and skunk altogether. So, you know, it's kind of a really bad, pungent smell. So we stopped. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, you know, where's that coming from? And we're looking around in circles in the woods, trying to figure out where this is coming from.

So I probably did the dumbest thing on the planet, because I was kind of new to it back in the day. So I just went, I growled off in the woods, and it mimicked me exactly. And that's when I saw this little head, 200 feet down the hill from me and this little tiny opening in the tree limbs swaying side by side. and I'm like, oh my gosh, that's a big fight. And I got my camera up. I got one blurry picture of it because, you know, that's the way it works. And then we heard a whistle off to our left, and it ducked into the woods and vanished. So I spent three days there.

We went down to where it was at. And I found footprints where it was standing. But I found nine inch. footprints and 16-inch footprints. And then, so I did all my archaeological stuff. You know, I set my camera up on a tripod where I was holding it almost exactly, you know, tried to get the exact spot, shot a laser down through the trees, figured out where it was standing from the footprints and where the laser hit, the nine-inch

footprints was six-foot tall. But the 16-inch footprints behind it, I thought there was another one that I didn't see until I went back and we got until later on, even a couple years later, I got somebody who had the technology to really enhance the photo I had, and there was another face behind it, the adult. I can't tell you how tall that was because it was bent over looking up at us. So that's when I had a Native American, I told this story to a Native American elder,

and he said, that's when Bigfoot stole your soul. Like, yep, that's probably the case. So that was the pivotal moment when we decided to sell our house, buy an RV, hit the road. And, you know, up until then, I had this little group called Blue Mountain Bigfoot Research, and we turned it into Squatch America and hit the road nationally and started falling up on these stories ever since. Wow, that is fascinating. What do you think the phrase Bigfoot stole your soul means? How do you take that?

well there's there's two different ways to take it and maybe the american culture is one spiritually like bigfoot literally took my soul that day and that's why i'm looking for him to get it back that's that's kind of an you know i i like to lean towards that one i need my soul back bigfoot i got to find you again but another one is you just become obsessed with this to the point where you're going to give up everything and do it so yeah that's that's probably one of the one of the of the two meanings that I could probably take from that. It's extremely interesting. Is it possible to give a roundabout area, and this isn't something we talked about beforehand,

but the area where the siting took place, or is it an area where you kind of give a nebulous region? Oh, no, I can tell you where it's at. It's, if you go to the Blue Mountains, there's a little town in eastern Oregon called Baker City, Oregon. And behind Baker City, Oregon, there's a road that goes out of town. It's called Pocahontas Road. And it goes up to this place called Marble Creek. And that's where I had my sighting. Now, that's Marble Creek Road goes over top of the Blue Mountains over the mountain to the other side of the hill where this little town called.

subter is. Now this area here is it's called the Alps of Oregon. The highest peak is 10,000 feet. It's not an easy drive. You've got to have a four-wheel drive to get up over this mountain. So it's about halfway up on the Baker City side of the mountain. It's where I had my siding. But it was also in a watershed area where you're not supposed to be. Same as the Freeman film back in the 90s, was in the watershed area where people weren't supposed to be. I was walking the edge of it. I was legal. So I wasn't in the watershed area.

So this area, and it was above 5,000 feet. So one of the interesting things I found over the years when we're getting reports of big foot, especially in the Blue Mountains and in the Cascades also, as most of the sightings are over 5,000 feet. That must be a line they draw. I'm like, you know, they live above that, probably because not many people go above that. So, yeah, so that's where it's at. It's in eastern Oregon, in the Alps of Oregon, outside of Baker City. Remembering what you saw that day, would you describe it as something

that was more ape-like and facial features or maybe more human-like or something completely different? I totally would lean toward more human. It looked more like a person. It looked more like a person than it did an ape. You know, having, you know, my background, I can, I can, I can, let's go into what I think these are. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah.

This is my, this is my working theory. Granted it is a theory. But from what I saw, you know, if I had to picture what the skull look like underneath the skin, you know, because I've seen lots. of humanoid creatures, skulls over the years, I would lean toward this is human, and I'll tell you why in a sec, this is human,

it's just an older version of us that hasn't went extinct. And this is why. And there's not this missing link that everybody says they're looking for. If we go back into human history, it wasn't, you know, one thing turning into the other, turning and the other turning the other, that's not how it worked. And we know that through DNA, even today, you know, that really kind of emphasized this theory

that say humans started somewhere, there's always been a human, and no, we did not evolve from apes. In fact, there's a theory today that maybe apes evolved from us, not the other way around. But there was always a human back in history somewhere that started, and they adapted. So if you think about, like, a group of humans in Africa, you know, three million years ago. As their population grew, the area they lived in couldn't sustain them. So this group moved over here, and then they moved again,

and then they moved again over millions of years. Well, by the time they got into Europe, their bodies have changed because they're in a different type of forest, you know, different climate. They had to adapt. So their bodies changed over thousands of years. but they're the same people that started in Africa, if you look at it that way. They just look different. So at any given time in human history, there's been, you know, five to six types of humans that live together at the same time.

You know, we're homo sapiens. But did you know we overlapped homo sapiens with homo Florincienses, which is actually newer than us, Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo erectus, Homo Nidali, and Homo Neanderthal. There's six that overlapped with us

that were still alive while we were alive. And here's a big shocker. Did you know that Neanderthals are still alive? That I did. I know they've been able to find individual,

well, this is what I've heard, individuals with pieces of Neanderthal DNA. I think that's real. Yeah. Yeah, that is absolutely real.

Okay. That is absolutely real. So Neanderthals came from France, and they came from the Acadian region of France. So they didn't go extinct. The French people bred them out. They're actually, you know, we're talking back in the paleo times, but they are us. You know, they are in us. So if you're French and you're from the Acadian.

region of France, which I am actually, 5% of my DNA is Nantatoll. And if you want to know Acadians, when they migrated to the United States in the 1600s. And they're the French-speaking people in Maine and Nova Scotia and Canada, you know. And then some of them migrated around the horn and landed in Louisiana and the word Acadian got change to Cajun. So if you wonder why Cajuns are a little off is because they're a park caveman. So, you know, I'm Acadian French. My dad is full-blooded. I'm half Acadian French Cajun. So we bred them out. So they're still alive. So why is today any different than it has has been for the last, you know, three or four hundred thousand years? We've always lived together

with another type of human, another adaptation of us. So why is today any different? I believe that these things are us. They are a human, an older version, or maybe even a newer version. It could be that, too. But I would lean towards an older version of us that hasn't had to change or adapt because they're fine the way they are and have been that way for thousands of years. Okay, so this is very interesting.

I'm going to go down this road with you. So it's fascinating. So in that case, then, so let's say you get these reports of things like infrasound and really interesting things. Is that saying then that maybe we forgot how to do these things? Or we lost it over the years. Right. Yeah. So here's something very interesting.

see when we get into the emphrasound and the whistles and stuff i have i have recorded whistles i've got a recorded whoops that i have recorded and one of the really cool things i did is i took a little bit different path my wife has a she her degrees in music and she was a choir teacher and a vocalist and a voice coach and her college professor you know same but with a doctorate you know you know is into choir and singing and stuff. And I played these whooping sounds for him. And he about fell out of his seat. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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Yes, they are in five octaves. What that means is they have one more fold in their vocal cords than we do. We have two, they have three. And so they have a higher and lower range of sounds they can make. Okay. And when I was talking to the college, so when I was talking to the college professor about this, he goes, you know, humans, some people are still born with those. But typically we lost them over the years when we started becoming civilized and didn't need to make those sounds anymore. So humans did at one time have the three vocal folds.

So we have lost them because we don't need them anymore. Like we don't need our appendix anymore, you know, over the years when we started become civilized and started doing agriculture and not, you know, hunting and gathering anymore. I wonder if this almost explains how sometimes you have witnesses that say it sounded like it was this and this at the same time. Exactly. man, this is blowing my mind.

This is awesome, dude. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I can't remember where, but I have heard someone else mention the double fold. You said double fold in the vocal cords, right? Yeah, well, they have three, they have three folds. Three, yeah, yeah, three. So tri-fold.

Wow, that's wild. Man, I'm going to be thinking about that for a while. So just add to that a little bit, that's why I don't go in the woods and whip at night. Because they know we're human. We can't reach the octaves they do. They're like, oh, that's a person. Oh, that's even crazier, dude. So, yeah, like what?

So using that theory, when we do whoops, we are, it's even more of a giveaway than, you know, using like, I are. It's probably very similar. Like, yeah, we're here, you know. Oh, that's crazy. Unless you're playing an actual recording of a big foot, then you can kind of get away with it. That's it.

Yep. So, how does how do the reports of infrasound play into this theory then? Well, I, you know, I think they do have infrasound because they have the ability to do

I meant they're not the only creatures on the planet that does that elephants, lions, tigers. There's a whole plethora of animals that have this ability. They use it as a, I don't know, I was to put it as a weapon, you know, because the reason tigers can do it or use it is that if you can growl so low that what you're growling at can't hear it, but they feel it. It actually shakes them to the core. You can put an animal into fight or flight or shock. So if you put something into a shock, it's going to be stunned for a moment.

That gives me time to grab it. So, you know, that's why tigers do it. It'll put their prey in kind of a shocked mode where it just stands there and doesn't know what to do. and that gives the tiger more time and ability to jump on it. So, you know, it may be a leftover, you know, just hunting tactic that they use. Have you ever experienced that yourself? Me personally, no, not that I can recall. I don't know if, you know, I've felt kind of eerie times in the woods.

That could possibly be it, but, you know, I can't, you know, equate that. because I I just recently got a recorder that it records infrasound so we can see if I start feeling weird in the woods you know I can record it and see yeah is there infrasound happening now but personally no I can't say I have had an instance that did that now I've had screams at night that are so loud and terrifying

that it made the coyotes shut up so that's a different thing but no I haven't had the infrasound that I can recall. Was that in the Blue Mountains that you experienced that? Absolutely. Okay. Wow.

I've experienced that out in Lane County near Oak Ridge, where it was like a scream slash roar thing. It really freaked me out, dude. Yeah. Yeah. That is weird. I'd love to hear it again, though, but it was freaky as I'll get out. It's like three o'clock in the afternoon.

Yeah, that area is weird. So walk me through, walk me through when you are driving around the U.S. in your RV with your wife for Squatch America. What is what is kind of your mission when you're, I'm assuming you're going probably to different towns. Maybe you have, you know, you're going to different hotspots. I guess I really don't know, but. Yeah, we tend to go to where there's like different hotspots across. United States, but the thing about what we do is a little bit different. My truck has our logo all over the side of it and it says Bigfoot research team and it's really audacious and stands out.

And there's a reason I do that is because we can't stop at a gas station without getting a Bigfoot report from somebody. Is that the gas station gassing up? You know, or go to the grocery store. We'll come out of the grocery store. There'll be two people standing next to our truck ready to tell what's their Bigfoot stories. So that's what we use when we go into different areas. We belong to this like campground system thing that we bought into. It's called Thousand Trails and they have 200 campgrounds across the United States. So we can stay three weeks at a time at each one of these and that's what we do.

We go park the trailer, spend the first week getting Bigfoot reports from people around the area. and then we spend the next couple weeks. Our truck also has a tent on the top. You know, it's an overlander. So we'll leave the trailer in the campground, and then we'll just go off into the woods and spend two or three days at a time following up on the reports we get in the area.

That's awesome. What is the craziest, let's say, you're just driving to an area and you just, all of a sudden, you find yourself in the middle of this, like, Bigfoot mystery. There's tons of reports and you're like, wow, things are just clicking. Have you ever experienced anything like that in a certain area? Oh yeah. Yeah. We ran across in a couple different times. Crazy enough,

it's kind of where we're kind of out right now. We tend to follow up on Bigfoot reports in Texas in the wintertime because, you know, it's nice here. It's like, 72 today. So, you know, growing up in eastern Oregon, you know, I'm kind of done with winter. But so we had that happen to us down here. We stopped at this little area outside of a place of Whitney, Texas. And I wouldn't, I didn't think that would be, there was some Bigfoot reports like on the Bigfoot mapping project and the BFRO site in that area.

But when we got there, oh my gosh, as soon as the community. community knew we were there. I meant the guy from the newspaper called us, asked us to come down and do a story. They posted in a newspaper. We got tons of report from this one area. And so we went to this campground there. Believe it or not, it's kind of weird. Texas doesn't have a lot of, you know, national forests. Everything here's like almost private. But we did happen to find a guy who said, yeah, come camp on my land. I've got to see Bigfoot all the time. And so I went and camped on this guy's ranch, which, you know, thousands of acres. And lo and behold, we found footprints down by the creek. You know, it's kind of an weird. So that was one that really stood out. And another one is kind of close.

If you're in the Cascades there, there's another time we went camping near Crater Lake. And we had fire crews stop. When they saw the truck, you know, stop, hey, We heard this last night. We had another guy saying, oh, yeah, I hear them every night. You know, go up this road,

which led us into something we've been actively doing for four years now. I try to spend part of my summer up there is we found a spot. This one, I'm not going to give you quite details, but if you know where Diamond Lake is, it's in that area. There's a road. I'll even give you the road. It's called, oh my gosh, it just went out of my head. Oh, my gosh.

Anyway, maybe I'm not supposed to tell you that. There you go. Yeah. When to go past. That's what it's called. When to go pass. Yeah. Oh, geez.

Believe it or not. Yeah. So in this area, four years ago, after everybody's talking about this, we found this little pond, this I'm not going to tell you where this is that, But we hiked up to this little pond and the only way in is hiking. And we found three sets of footprints. We found 13-inch prints, 9-inch prints, and 6-inch prints. And it's something I'm really going to when I do my,

when I speak at a lot of big foot festivals, and it's one of the things we talk about, you know, big foot vessels. But so that was four years ago. And we go back to the same area every year. We found tree structures. we've had a long distance sighting of one up on top of the mountain. We, since then, I've found 21-inch print. So we've got mom, dad, and two kids.

And we found our little guy again last year. We found his footprints near a different pond up there. And he's went from his six-inch prints to 10-inch prints in four years. So, and we've been doing some also some, off-the-cuff things. We've been putting out puzzles in the woods for them. We'll stack rocks like in a pyramid or we'll actually use those,

you know, those kids' toys with the little round donut-look things and you stack them up on the stick and they form a pyramid. We put those in the woods. That's actually a cognitive test, by the way. So we've been putting those out in the woods and stacking the rocks up and they have been playing with them.

They've been rearranging them. in a way that you know it's intelligently done. It's not just, you know, gear knocking it over or whatever. So after we did that for a couple of years, when we went back into that area, we started finding rocks put on logs for us and arranged, 500-pound rocks that we couldn't rearrange.

So they're playing with. We're teaching them. I don't know what's going on with that, but that's that's an area that we've been we've been it's been a hot spot for us for four years now and that's kind of one of our our major research areas scott oddly enough so this show gets some weird electrical stuff and sometimes the voice modulation it almost sounds like and right when you start talking about like moving huge rocks and stuff it's like every time i'm like I don't even, I don't know if this is the government or it's Bigfoot messing with my stuff.

It's wild. But that's not surprising at all. I mean, I take a lot of, you know, reports from north of 58 in that area, kind of like going west over to Oak Ridge and Dexter. And I mean, that whole area is just bonkers. The word windigo in Native American terms is a bad thing. You know, it's not a good thing. Right. that's pretty interesting it's kind of interesting that like it you know i've interviewed like 75 tribes

and i got the names for these things and it's kind of weird that half the tribes is almost a 50-50 split half the tribes call them like benevolent brother harry man you know the other people stuff like that but the other half call them like windegos or monsters killers cannibals so i i think there's like there's good things big foot and there's bad big foot. You know, like they're good people and there's bad people. Have you found tribes where they call them both or it seems to be a one or the other type thing? It seems to be a one or the other type thing.

And it's primarily the southern tribes are the ones that have the bad words for them. So, you know, the one, you know, like in New Mexico and, and, you know, and, you know, and in Texas here in Louisiana and down in Florida their names for them tend to be I wonder if the southern Bigfoot are just meaner Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages Let's go girls

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I mean, going by the reports that I hear, I don't know. I kind of feel like it might be a little bit more aggressive down there, but that's a discussion in itself. Do you ever go out in the, Midwest, like Iowa, Nebraska, that part of the country at all? Yeah, actually, there's the Omaha tribe in Nebraska. They have a really interesting relationship with the Bigfoot there. In fact, they look to Bigfoot in that area as almost a shaman.

And it's kind of interesting. Kind of the tribal elders and like the medicine woman tells stories that they will take whatever plants that are ripening in whatever season. They'll take those and they'll go into the woods and they'll lay them out on a rock. And then they'll wait a few days. They'll go back and then something will have removed some of them from the rock and left some of them there. And that's the stuff that works good for the medicines they need during the. that season. Well, that's really interesting.

And that's north of Omaha, like where it's referred to as Satanga. Is that the same area? Yep, absolutely. Okay. That's it. Gotcha. Yep, yep, yep. Have you ever gotten anything directly from Iowa?

I haven't. Okay. We haven't spent a lot of time there either, so. We don't have a lot going on. We have a little bit of weird stuff, but not a lot. So that's, I can understand why you wouldn't. I have seen in the past where you guys will do like Bigfoot Town Halls. Is that right?

Yes, we do. We do that as often as we can wherever we get into an area and we can hook up with somebody to set up a place and time and all that stuff. But yeah, we do do that quite often. And that's where we're getting a lot of insight reports from people in the areas that we're going to be in. Can you take a few minutes to talk about what it takes to set up a Bigfoot Town hall? hall or any like you know advice that you have towards that actually it's a lot easier than than I had originally thought it would be they said we need you need a little time to advertise it and we try to set it you know like said we can spend three weeks in places so

what we try to do is you know kind of get it set up immediately when we get somewhere or if we can set it up you know a month or two ahead to get an idea but basically we just find places like that have meeting rooms, a lot of times they're bars, pizza parlors, a place like that, to have like these rooms in the back for meetings and things. And we'll, you know, rent the space or whatever to do that. And then we'll try to advertise it in local newspapers, on the local, you know, Facebook pages and things like that, let people know that we're going to be there.

And then if we can, we'll stick a banner on the building if they let us, you know, saying when it's going to happen and we've had crazy results i meant you know it's a hit and miss i can say that but we've had like one time we were we set up one in a little town called cave junction organ and we're expecting you know maybe 60 70 people to show up we had 280 show up it was crazy and then yeah the pizza father ran out of pizza that night they were really thinking us. But it's really, you know, not a lot to it. But the most important thing, the hard thing to do is once you have the meetings is to get people to document stuff. You know, we'll have a map of the area. We'll throw up on a table up front. When people tell us their

stories, we ask them if they can come up and mark it on the map, which really helps us a lot. And then recording it, we set up a video recorder and some audio recorders so we can get some good audio because I have when I first started doing these I totally spaced that part and I thought well they'll come in they'll fill out this sheet for me yeah they won't you know but if I can get them on video I can I can remember the stories that way okay so that I think is a is a really I think that yeah that's a that's a very good piece of advice there because I found that with when I I mean when I

did a festival in Oak Ridge in July I mean it was it was overwhelming I talked to people about their encounters for probably 24 hours

in three days it was nuts I loved it but it's like you know you're writing stuff down on a map but then

I mean if I had been able to have people record their story I mean yeah that would have been very very effective are

are these just for your personal archives, I would imagine then? Yeah, we have a database that we put stuff in that helps us to track these things. One of the interesting things about the information we get from it, and one of the things I use it for, is if you got, I always try to get dates in at least months. That's the important thing. because after doing this, we're on our fifth or six year doing this full time

is I put a lot of pins and maps, you know, but if you got the dates on me, I've noticed that like, hey, this area is hot in March every three years. You know,

this area is hot in June every other year, you know, and that kind of gives me something to go on. Like if we're going to go research an area, I want to make sure it's when they're there.

That's interesting. You could almost figure out like migration times and stuff. Yep. Wow. Yeah. I'm still not sure about the migration thing. I think they stay within almost like a 200 mile area. I think they basically rotate crops.

They're in like this part of it for one year. And then next year they'll be over here and then next year they'll be over there. And then they'll come back to this, you know, three years. later. Do you have any criteria that needs to be met in order for you to focus on a certain area, spend three weeks there and try to set up a town hall? Well, yeah, one of them is kind of mostly if it's going to be in an area that there is like past activity, you know, I can look, look on the BFRO site. You know, I'm not going to go to counties that never had a Bigfoot report ever, you know, like down in the deserts, you know, in Arizona, there's not a lot of activity there, so that's places

we don't go. But I'd like to go to, you know, Dr. Jeff Meldrum has a theory that there's three bigfoot and any 20 square miles of a black bear habitat. So I kind of lean on that a little bit. So any areas that have black bearers are generally bigfoot areas, you know, same habitat. So we tend to try to lean towards staying in areas that there are black bears. That makes a ton of sense. Out of the 200 and so people that showed up at Cave Junction,

how many, what's the percentage would you say of people there actually had an encounter to report? Oh, gosh, I would say at least half of them. And probably I would say I would delete about 20% of those because some of them are like, fairly outlandish, you know. You know, I look for things that have commonality in Bigfoot reports like the smell, the hair, the way the face looked. Are there things though that you'll hear in a witness report that'll make you be like what I'm hearing right now?

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, like I said before, some of the commonalities, but the other one says it's kind of really weird is watch their face in their arms. if they start getting goosebumps and their hair stands up a little bit and they started a little shaking in their voice, they had seen something that changes their life and it still affects them today. So those ones I really take close attention to. This is something that I'm trying to work through myself when I talk to people face-to-face like you're talking about. How do you handle?

Sometimes when you talk to a witness, they can get back. into that emotional state. And it's almost like you don't, it can really affect them. And it's like, how long do I want this person to be back in that state for? I mean, I've experienced a few and I was really taken back by like,

this is way different than talking to someone over a phone. Yeah, that's an interesting question. And I'm not really good at it. But, luckily my wife is a licensed psychologist so there you go man

yeah so and and she is really good at forensic interviewing and things like that so when they start getting really shaky and she kind of takes over for me and she kind of knows the limits you know I don't want to put somebody

through you know PTSD you know from doing this but you know but it helps to reassure them that you're here for them and that they're safe now and stuff like that yeah scott it's been such a fascinating conversation with you i i do have one another question for you here at the end okay so let's say there's an individual and they're like man i really want to get out there and have a a big foot experience do you have things that you recommend people maybe to lean towards if they're going to go out and try to have an experience themselves? Yeah, one, do your research. One of the biggest best tools that came out recently is the Bigfoot mapping project.

It's an app you can download. Look on that and find the area that you want to go to has sightings. and secondly, look at the months. I don't care if it happened 20 years ago or last month. Look at the months, and that's where you want to go. And one of the other things that has worked extremely well for us is to go camping. I don't go knock on trees. I don't go whooping in the woods at night.

We just go camping and make a spectacle of yourself. You're not going to hunt down a big foot. You're not going to chase it down in the woods. camo don't work. But if you get them curious enough to come see you, if they're curious, they want to check out the funny-looking human people. So that's one of the things I do.

I just go camping. That's great advice. I just remembered one that I forgot. I apologize. This is for the last one. How do you record Infrasound? There's actually recorders that will record it. Really?

In fact, there's even an app you can get through your phone and infrasound recorder. The microphones will pick it up. Your ears won't, but it'll show you on a spectrograph. You know, you can even download the app. It works fine. It'll show you on a spectrograph the infrasound that you're not hearing. Okay, so it's easy as that just to start Googling on looking on Amazon infrasound recorder. Look at that apps and they're out there.

Okay. That's cool. That's cool. All right. Well, Scott, thank you so much for taking some time out of your day to share what you've experienced over the years. And, you know, maybe listeners keep an eye out for their truck. You never know when you'll see them. But thank you so much for coming on the show. Do you mind taking a few minutes reminding listeners how they can keep up-to-date best with what you're doing? Okay. One of the best things is follow us on YouTube. We do three videos a week. and that helps us out too with the views.

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