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Episode Date: December 29, 2024In this captivating episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron talks with two individuals who share their remarkable experiences with potential Bigfoot encounters. Chris from East Texas recounts ...the mysterious sounds, tree knocks, and howls he has heard on his property near Avenger while building a cabin. He also describes strange odors, unusual footprints, and the disappearance of wildlife. In another segment, Dom, a lobster fisherman from Maine, reveals his chilling encounters in Colorado. Dom describes a terrifying roar near Grand Junction and an eerie breathing presence at his home in Mesa. Together, these stories provide a compelling glimpse into the possible existence of Bigfoot in diverse locations across the U.S.🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.comWant to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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we've got the privilege of talking to a gentleman who contacted me from East Texas. His name is Chris.
How's it going tonight, Chris? Pretty good. How are you doing?
Oh, I'm doing great, Chris. I can't even talk about stuff that's coming up for 2024, man.
It's going to be awesome. I got stuff going on, but I am beyond excited to talk to you tonight.
We've been trying to, I think, get this set up for a little bit of time, and it does sound very interesting.
Without any further ado, I'm just going to pass it right over to you, Chris, and feel free to share what you are experiencing in your area.
Awesome.
I bought this piece of property outside of Avenger about.
It's gone on four years ago.
That's got a little springbed creek through the middle of it with some pretty good size spring pools.
Obviously, all the wildlife, the dears, the big cats, everything else we've got out there.
These are old creeks, so they've been coming here for years and years.
A whole bunch of wildlife out there.
And, of course, I'm from East Texas, so I've lived here in East Texas.
I've hunted these woods my entire life.
I'm 53 now.
So I know all but everything we have out here.
But since I've gotten this piece of property, I've never seen it,
but I have heard so many different things.
I can't tell you what they are.
For example, one thing about this fish property that I wanted to do,
I wanted to, when I got out there to build the cabin,
I wanted to do everything by hand old school so that it's what I tell people.
I want to look like a Norman Rockwell picture when they come down there.
So with that being said, I set me a tent up out there and everything else
so while I'm working, I've got a place to be.
So a few nights of the week, I would stay out there while I'm clearing brush and things like this.
And that's when I started noticing something not normal.
And what would happen would be the first thing I would hear was being out there in East Texas like that.
so quiet you can drop a Q-tip on the floor and hear it. It's so quiet at night out there.
And I would hear a tree knock. And I've never heard these anywhere in my life, and it was three
knocks. You can tell it's wood on the side of a tree. It's unmistakable. That's what it is.
And for the first night, I heard it, and I heard it. I thought, world, did I just hear.
And then a few hours later, I heard it again. I didn't thank too much of it, to be honest.
and a few nights went by and then I stayed out there again.
And sure enough, every night that I would stay out there, I would hear that.
And I never could pinpoint what it would be.
I would try to shine the light out.
I'd try to go out there the next day and look at it, things like this.
I cannot figure out what it was.
This rocks along for, I don't know, a month or two.
And one night I'm out there, and I hear a house.
Now, when I first bought this property, there was only another house at the end of
end of this county road. And we're in the thick woods out there now. And they're off the grid.
I'm not really off the grid, but they're way up by themselves and stuff. So there's nothing else around.
It's really good hunting land still. I have tons of deer and everything else coming through there.
Big cats, bobcats, you name it, all coming up in there for that spring pool.
And so this one particular night, I heard howl. And I know we have all the coyotes, obviously.
I know we have the small red wolves. And we even have some great.
loafers that a lot of people don't think we have
down here, which is wolves, but I know
for a fact to do because I've seen them,
and I know what they sound like.
I know what the big cats sound like when they screen.
I know what the bobcat sounds like.
I know what the screechows, all that, everything sounds like.
This was a very
deep, long,
very vocal and loud
howl with almost the growl
sound in it. And
I've never heard that in my life.
I listened to it and I just, when it started, I sat straight up and then I listen.
I don't listen until it quit.
Then I listen for anything else.
I don't hear anything else.
That was new.
So this rocked on about five months while I'm building the cabin.
Different times I'd be out there at night and I'd hear these things.
And I've heard that how probably four times now.
Now, over the period of almost four years that I live out here,
we used to have a very large hog population out there.
But the county of the state, one of the two,
had spent some money to try to get the population down.
So they hired some hunters to come in and take the hogs out.
And they're down, they took about 80% of them out, I would say, of that general area.
So since the hog population dropped, I've noticed two things.
I've not heard the howl anymore.
I've not heard the tree knock anymore.
and I've not been seeing the big cats anymore either.
Obviously they were coming up using that as a food source, whatever this is.
Now, during all this time, you could hear, at times,
we could be four or five of us sitting out on the porch of the cabin after we've got it built.
We can be sitting out there just having a good time talking,
listen to music or whatever, and you can hear something walking close by.
And we'll turn everything off and listen.
You can definitely hear, and it's a large bipedal, like a,
human walking. And then when we all try to get real quiet, it would get quiet and we'd talk
a little bit and still listen. You can hear it walk around with it. You can shine the light
all you want all that long. I don't care what kind of light you. You just never can see anything.
And this happens on a pre-record basis. I'm out about working in different areas of the country
all the time. My son and his friends or stuff will go up to the cabin and things like that.
And everybody that's ever been there has heard this. Matter of fact, I've got people that
refuse to go back to the cabin now because they hear that walking around out there and they can't
figure out what it is. My son is in there one night and he's got to look fire going and he's sitting in
the little living room there talking on the phone to his girlfriend and actually has her on a speaker
phone and then all of a sudden you hear something really loud. He said something really loud
slapped the back corner of the cabin real loud and it's allowed that when his girlfriend heard it
She said, what was that?
He said, I don't know.
Something hit the cabin.
So then he thinks, wait a minute.
Dad's here trying to pull a trick on me or something.
So he calls me, hey, where are you at?
I was in, I think, Wisconsin at the time, or Minnesota at the time.
And he says, definitely wasn't used.
Something hits the back corner of the house.
He goes out with the gun, a lot, and everything.
He never can see anything.
He can hear a bipedal walk after a little while, but not right away.
He didn't hear it.
So he never could pinpoint what it was.
So then we got to thinking, okay, we've got somebody sneaking down here because it's a new place.
Somebody's coming down here.
Probably didn't know you were here.
Maybe they're going to try to break him and steal gun or whatever.
So we started really watching for that kind of thing.
And a human, I don't know how to say this politely, but they're not real smart if they're a crook to begin with.
So they're going to walk through sand, dirt, mud, something.
They're going to leave tracks.
They're going to leave a trace of some kind.
We never got a trace of any kind.
And to get into that property, the way it is, because I left it very wooded except for just to write the near area around it, just enough of a firebread around it and things like that.
You would have to go, if you're going to try to come in there at night, there's no way you're going to walk through these woods without just getting tangled up and vines and briers and everything else.
You're going to have a lot of you're going to get tore up and hurt.
There is no evidence of anybody coming through brush or anything around the surroundings of it.
and then every other way you have to come in there's area you will cross sand or mud or something
we have no footprints or anything out there so it's not a person coming down there messing with us
we rule that out pretty quick and besides that nothing was ever locked up and nothing ever
stolen we've got steel chainsaws and things like that sitting out unlocked and if somebody would
have been coming down there then they would have picked that up and run off with nothing come up missing
so it's not a person coming down there.
And then at times you can be sitting out there.
And this happened once the last time about,
I'd say about three months ago.
My son and I were sitting on the porch talking.
We both came up there about the same time.
We were sitting out there just talking.
It just got good and dark.
And almost a rotten egg, wet dog smell he's ever smelled,
all of a sudden drifts through there.
And I'm looking at my son.
What in the world is this?
And then within a minute that smell just drifts on off.
There's no wind blowing, so it wasn't like there's people near me now that have bought property near me now.
And it's not like that there was their septic system or something.
You've got a little smell of that or something because there's no wind at all.
Now, this has happened several times.
And one other thing I will say that since the people bought the 60 acres across the road from me,
they cleared out a lot of the timber and made a lot of pasture.
out there. He's got a few cows and a horse and stuff like that. And he keeps out there. And since
that has happened and the hog population down, I've not been here in the howl. But I tell you,
one thing that was very interesting that happened. My grandson comes out there and stuff. I really
keep an eye on that creek, make sure there's no snakes and things like that. If I know he's
coming out there, I'll check it all out and things like that real good. And this particular day,
I found a pretty good size, probably about three and a half foot water mocks me. And so I shot
and killed it. And I was working, so I just took a rake and tossed it up on the far bank for right
now while I was finishing the work I was dealing. And I got done with it and went back over there
and, of course, it's dead. He shot it with 12 gauge. Has no head on it. Can't crawl around this.
It's five or six hours later. And the reason I'm telling you that is because, so later when I tell you
what's going to happen, you'll know that snake didn't move on its own just from its muscles.
I went back over there and I took the rake and I picked it up and I carried to the back of the property.
And there's a place back there where the hogs would get down and wallowing the mud in the summertime and things like that to get them wet to cool them off and things like that.
And then they would scrape on the tree to get that stuff cleaned off of them.
So I tossed that snake down in there close to where that mud pit was.
But since they hadn't been in there in a little bit, it was dry.
So I tossed it over in there.
Now that thing landed upside down in a muddy area, just like a little one foot by one foot little muddy patch.
she claims again. And then pretty much the leaves that all falling around here there and everywhere.
The next day, my son and I said, let's go back here and see if the hogs came back and ate that snake.
So we come back there and the snake is not there. So we thought the hogs got it. And we get to look
around, but there's no evidence of hogs anywhere. And then we see the snake. It's three feet from
where we dropped it. And you can still see the indention in the mud where it laid upside down in the
bud. Now it's about three feet away. It's sitting right side up on a little ledge, almost like it
crawled there. But I shot it with a 12 gauge with buckshot, and it laid in one spot for about
six hours before I took it back there and threw it down. So it wasn't muscle contraction or anything
caused a snake to me. The interesting thing was in that mud close to where that snake lay. You can
still see the scales on the top side of the snake goes upside down. You can see it looked like
a barefoot print.
In other words, like you didn't have your shoes on,
you step in the mud, your heel, and
part of the left side or the right side
of your foot, either whether it's left foot or right
foot, you can see that in benching
in the mud. Of course, the
toe area was over the leaves, so you couldn't
see any of the toe marks or anything.
And I asked my son,
we're the only two days. I said, did you come back
here earlier or something with that shoes on?
No, I didn't get out here about my shoes on for no reason.
We got a heel print in there,
and it's not really large.
but it's definitely a hill print and half of a foot.
What in the world?
I don't even know what to think.
But I guess over the entire period of time,
we've probably had a total of 20 run-ins
with whatever's making these sounds
as far as hearing the footsteps, the walking, the smells.
Say the howl I've heard four times,
and each time I hear it, I'd stop dead still
and I listened long and hard at that how.
And because the first time I heard it, I thought,
let me try to figure out where it came from.
And then after I realized this is something I don't know what it is,
then I started really trying to listen to it,
so I know it if I hear it again.
And so anyway, it just, this, I've never seen at all
whatever's making this sound.
But we definitely have something in those woods that's different.
That's not, I was fixing to say not native D.E. Texas,
but it could very well be made native D.S.
I don't know, and this is one thing here.
That's most people, have you ever seen a wolf in the wild?
And most everybody you ask will tell you, yeah, I know wolves exist, but no, I've never seen one.
I've never got a wolf on a trail can even.
You get coyotes on a trail can all the time, but you never get a wolf on a trail cam, hardly ever,
because they're very keen and very smart.
So my thing is that there's wolves out there that I know for a factor there,
and you can talk to Texas Park from Wildlife Division,
and they'll tell you for a fact they're there as well,
and you've never seen them,
doesn't mean they're not there.
They're still there.
So we have something that's here that's very familiar with the woods.
And I know, I don't know what to say.
I don't know what to call it.
As a thing, my little property is called Bigfoot Springs
because we've got all them springs out there.
And then my grandson, when he comes out there,
he tells me, oh, I'm going to set bigfoot traps.
So I don't know if he's ever set a big foot trap or not,
but if I'm ever disappeared, y'all come look out there,
I might be in a big foot trap somewhere that he's made.
But there's something out there, and here's the thing about it.
I've been up in Colorado before,
and I've encountered a grizzly bear up there, or brown bear rather,
at a pretty close distance.
And before I ever saw it, my senses knew it was there.
Now, hair on the back of my neck stood up,
my adrenaline starts pumping,
and I've never seen it, never heard it,
but I knew it was there, and I knew it was in trouble.
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23 years of his life in Lincoln, Maine up on mountaintop.
So I got up there one time, and I encountered a bull moose,
and the same thing before I ever saw that bull moose and knew he was there, same thing.
My senses knew he was there.
I knew I was in trouble.
But whatever this is, I don't feel threatened in any kind of way.
There's no worry of my hair on back of the neck, don't stand up.
There's no worry.
I'm not going to be attacked or anything like that.
I've got a bigger fear of the hogs.
than whatever this is.
I don't know.
It's pretty interesting.
I'd like to know what it is.
I put out game cans,
and I've caught everything under the sun on my game cans
and everything else except whatever this is.
I walked out the back door of that cabin
going to the smoker,
which is 15 feet away from the back door,
20 feet away from the back door,
and just on the other side of the smoker stands one of them on the canvers.
And she's standing there looking straight at me,
broadside, twitching her tail.
and I knew not to get near her.
I knew there would be danger with her if I got me in her,
but I wasn't too worried about her.
But whatever this is, it's definitely different.
I don't see it to be harmful to me in any kind of way.
I'm like everybody else.
I'd like to know what it is.
You've really having some interesting things go on on that property.
You'd sent me a write-up of what you're experiencing earlier,
and I just want to make sure,
Are there any other things that you've been hearing that are out of the ordinary besides howls?
I've heard the howls.
I've heard the treenocks.
And you know how when a deer bleats, that little sound it makes.
I've heard something like that.
And I do have several those that bring their farms down every year.
And so I know what they sound like when they're communicated back and forth doing what they do.
and the buck even when he makes the sound he makes.
But there is another sound that I heard one day
that I put off as probably squirrels
because I couldn't,
I didn't hear it long enough to be able to get a good enough,
you know, lock on it to really tell what it is,
but it's almost like a,
I don't even know how to describe it.
Have you ever heard chipmunks chattering or squirrel chattering and stuff
and the sounds that they make?
It's almost like that.
But it was at night time, and that was pretty odd as well.
Like chipmunk chatter.
I'm sure it sounds like you're familiar a little bit with things in the Bigfoot community,
or maybe you're not, I guess I could be assuming that.
But have you ever heard the Sierra sounds at all?
What sounds?
I don't guess so.
Now, we do have Jefferson not far away from us,
probably a 20-mile drive from where I live,
that they have some kind of Bigfoot.
I don't mean, I'm trying to think of what they call it, some kind of Bigfoot gathering where they talk about it, trade research, things like that.
I would be really interested if you were to look up the recording of the Sierra Sounds.
And just so that I'm curious if it's similar to what you heard.
So the Sierra Sounds were a recording made by Ron Moorhead in the 1970s out in California.
and allegedly it's recording of Bigfoot talking back and forth with each other.
And it almost sounds, another name for it is Samurai Chatter.
Once you hear it, you'll be like, this is probably the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life.
If you could, after this, I would be really curious what your thoughts are when you hear that.
Yeah, I'll definitely look it up and listen to it.
How loud is that when you would hear that weird noises, is it really loud?
or the sound of a normal chipmline?
The chatter or the howl?
The shatter.
The only one time I heard it, it was, I would say it was within 50 feet of me.
So it wasn't like it was a screech loud.
It was more of just a low, normal kind of a tone that whatever's making it, a normal tone it would make,
not like it was distressed or anything like that.
But since I've heard that, I've not heard it all since.
But now the howl, the first time I heard the howl,
Now that was before both the people had one neighbor that bought property across the road
and one neighbor that bought property on the same side of my road that backs up to my fence line.
Now, before they got there, I'd say the first two house were, I would say, within 100 yards or less, extremely loud.
Close enough that I went out the next day both times and looked around to see if I could find any kind of evidence of any kind and see what it was.
I found nothing.
Now, the sack had two times I've heard it.
It's been further down in the river bottom, the creek bottoms down there, because like I say,
they cleared a lot of property.
Both of them did and put homes there and stuff like that.
Whatever it is, has moved further back down in the creek bottoms.
And since the hog population has dwindled down like, since they've hunted them down,
I haven't heard it since.
I bet once you clear out that food source, when you heard the howls,
sometimes people can describe when they hear something like,
a howl, they'll say, I could almost tell what the size of the creature was that was making the sound.
Did you get a feel as to how big this creature may have been that was making the howl
sound or was it hard to gauge that?
Oh, no, you could gauge that pretty good because if you ever been in the woods and heard a bear
growl or how, not how, but growl or basically roar in the woods, have you ever heard that?
No.
Okay.
If you've ever heard that, anybody that's ever heard that, you can tell.
or if you've ever heard a panther or a big cat of any kind,
a scream at you,
you can tell the difference in the size of the panthum size of the bear just by it.
And I would say whatever's making is how would probably be bigger
than a good size brown or grizzly bear.
That would just be a guest, I don't know,
but I just listen to it.
It's got a lot of force behind it.
It's pretty serious, whatever it is.
Sure, it's probably similar to, like, when you're at the zoo
and you hear the lion roar, and you're like, okay, that's, that creature's a lot bigger than an otter.
It's a pretty big guy over there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can, I know what that's like.
Oh, that's wild.
So you've mentioned that your neighbors were clearing some property, clearing some wood out.
Have you ever talked to your neighbors to ask them if they've ever experienced anything weird or noticed anything out of the ordinary?
They've both at different times come to me and ask me what it was.
was the last two howls that I've heard and I'm in and out all the time it could be going on
some more that I don't know right now I'm down south of Houston right now so I'm not up in at the
cabin it could be happening more often than I know but at both times they've both at different
times come to me and ask me have you ever heard something sound strange and I know what they're
getting out and I'll be like what are you talking about they said man we heard this how
what is that is that like a big wolf or something they've heard it and they can't figure out
what it is either. Matter of fact, Anthony, he has a lot of guns and stuff. He likes hunting things like that. And it disturbed him pretty good one night. Everybody around there has heard it. But like me, nobody knows what it is and what's making it.
Going back to the footprint that you saw in the hog area with the snake, if you were to remember, do you remember any dimensions of how long the footprint probably was?
Yeah, we had laid a dollar bill on the ground by it, and the dollar bill was about the length of the
hill, was the dollar bill. So it was at least the length of two, maybe two and a half dollars bills
placed in the end, just based off how the hill looks and based off how my hill looks, that would be a
pretty good guess of how big it was. But if you look at where the hill was and the way it was,
if you walked up and you squatted down to pick something up and put it somewhere, it really looks like
something squatted down right there and picked it up and set it up on the ledge where it was.
Like it looked at it and set it up there.
But I don't know.
That's just a guess.
I couldn't tell you because I didn't have my cameras up to the gang cans up at night.
So I don't know.
And I do know we have honey bears in that area because just north of me, oh, what is about 50 miles up
up around the Clarksville area, things like that up in northeast Texas there.
You have a very large population of little small black bears and honey bears.
there. And we do have them migrating down. Matter of fact, over on Lake of the Pines,
one of the stores out there had an issue with trash being torn out of their dumpster. So they
put a camera to figure out what's getting trash out of the dumpster. And they've got some really
good video, one of them where black bears going in there, pulling a bag out, carrying it open,
trying to find something to eat in it. So I know we have them through my area because where he's at,
where that was taken was south of where my property is, and then they're from a little bit further
north of me so I know they're coming through there and then my son and I talked about that and
thought you'd think it was the back foot of a black bear but you look at one of the largest black
bears that we have in Texas engaged that the largest back foot based on that dollar bill
laying by the hill that we took the picture of his whole back foot is the size of the hill of
whatever this was of the black bear so we ruled out pretty quickly it wasn't a black bear
Unless some kind of way of a Kodiag bear got down here or something, which I don't think that's the case.
We'd have a lot of cattle coming up missing or something.
I combine that with the knocks you've been hearing and the howls, I would say it's probably not a bear that you're experiencing on your property for sure.
Have you ever put out any audio recorders around your property?
No, I haven't.
But I've thought about several times, you know, talking to people in the area and seeing if I could, you know, go back on the properties.
and follow the river creek bottoms,
down to the river and stuff like that,
and just, you know, see what I can come up with
and things like that.
I just, you know, work and everything else.
I haven't done it yet.
But I will tell you something that's pretty interesting.
Now, this is just me assuming,
so I don't know for a fact that, you know,
I bought me an enduro motorcycle
just to ride the backroads up there when I'm at the cabin.
It's just real nice.
You take off out and eating everything.
You're so beautiful up there.
And three single time I go out,
I see a guy he's on.
his four-wheeler riding along.
He's got cameras
all over his handlebars.
And it goes out.
Sometimes I go down through there, my truck or something,
going somewhere every evening.
You see that man riding with the cameras on there.
And I've wondered several times
if he's seen or heard something
and he's riding around looking to see if he can see
or hear something again.
Because I've never seen anybody.
People that are like the millionaires,
they're doing their flips and racing
and they're doing all this kind of crazy stuff
and they got GoPro on.
But this guy's,
I've got six of them mounted across his handlebar, she aimed in every direction.
And I wanted to stop him and talk to him and see what's going on, but I just left it alone.
And I just always thought, I bet he's trying to figure out what's making that noise.
That's a lot to have hooked up to your bike.
You're saying six cameras.
Exactly.
Unless he's like a YouTube guy, but either way, I'm not going to tell you what to do.
It might be a fun conversation if you run into him again.
Exactly.
Oh, man.
It's wild.
Have you heard anything?
going on recently from the Jefferson area?
No, I've not heard anything there.
We go out to Caddo Lake all the time because we like Caddo so much.
And then Jefferson's such a neat little older town with all the antique shops and stuff.
Tony likes to go to antique shops and we're up there and stuff.
But we walked on the little walkway that goes out to the river back there.
There's a woman that's lived down there with her children, raised her children,
done there for years and years.
And we're talking to her one day back there about our little cabin and stuff.
And she's never said nothing.
I think a lot of people up there like the fact that they're known as a bigfoot area or whatever.
Matter of fact, they've got some big foot statues they'll put out and stuff.
And that's just the theme of the little town, what is it, the fall festival, or whatever it is they have up there.
I've not been to it yet, but they talk about it.
And you'll hear some of them old-timers talking when they're like, hey, now, listen to this is,
I don't know what they've seen.
I'm not saying they have or have not seen anything.
But you can tell some of them have definitely seen something.
They know something's there if they just, but I'd be interested to know.
I would really like to take about a month or so to where I could,
because I like to hunt and camp and fish and everything else.
It would be really nice to take about a month or so
and just get out in the woods and just get out there and stay out there
and figure out what's going on.
Oh, I agree.
And can you remind me how long ago did anything happen that you think may have
be related to Bigfoot on your property?
About three months ago would have been the got off of rotten egg smell.
Okay.
And things like that was about the last thing.
And see, that happens a lot of time out there.
And like everything else, you can't see nothing.
You just, and of course, it's very thick woods.
And if you've ever been out in the woods hunting anywhere,
you can have a mule deer 20 yards from you.
And he knows you're looking at him.
He's standing a certain way.
You be looking at him and not see him.
If there's thick woods, any animal that's in the woods on a regular basis knows how to hide.
And I just can't see it.
And matter of fact, let's see, it was probably, let's see, what is this?
This is January.
So it was probably back in maybe August, I think.
Late August, first of September, my son and his girlfriend were out there.
And they heard the walking up close to the house.
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And I was out in the pool shed, and she hollered out and asked me out there.
and said, hey, where are you at?
And I said, I'm in the pool shed.
You're standing out looking out of the window waving at her.
And she said, somebody's behind the cabin.
So I go up there, and my son is in the back back there, and he's got the light out.
Of course, he's got the gun.
And you can hear it walking through the woods.
That's a pretty good clip, but you could not see it.
And then he said, hey, let's head out there and let's go ahead out there.
Whatever it is, it's heading away from us, let's just let the head away from us.
Leave it alone.
That's probably a wise choice.
Yeah, it scared her bad enough.
And every single person that's ever been out there has heard something.
And I've had two people swear they'll never come back out there ever again,
just from hearing something walking around and scared them so bad.
Have you ever heard any weird, I'm just going to throw some weird stuff out,
whistling or the noises that sound like a baby crying?
Now, down in, not a whistle, but like the baby crying, down in the bottom,
before my neighbor cleared all that property and put his cows out there and stuff.
I've heard that sound a couple times.
Almost sounds like a woman screaming, like she's deathly afraid or something.
But what that is our big cats.
Those cats will sound that way.
And I heard that one night, that scream out there one night,
and then just about a minute later you heard a pig squalling as hard as it could,
so you know those cats.
And then you heard one of the cats yell pretty loud.
So the cats were down there hunting.
Matter of fact, my neighbor that's right on my fence row, they had a chicken pen and put in,
and they had chickens coming up and this and everything else, and put your roof over the top of it,
at least wire, because we have eagles in the area, we have hawks in the area, and coyotes will also,
everything else to get in there, and we do have big cats.
So they put the wire over, and they spent a lot of time and money and done it really nicely.
She put out a game cam aimed straight at her chicken pin and put a light with a sensor on it, motion
sensor on him. And when it went off, she's got very good pictures of that big cougar. And I'm
thinking it's the male, because you can't see well enough to see if it's male or the female, but you
can see how big they are on its big cougar. He's standing up on top of the pen looking down through
there, like how am I going to get through here? And just behind it, you can see the mama with the two
cubs standing there. All four of them are just as clear as can be on that picture. So we have
very large cats down there, but the howl is definitely not those cats.
Because I've been in East Texas my whole life and fished on a lot of these different
creeps around here, like Big Sandy Creek for one.
And if anybody knows East Texas knows that one very well, and you hear them cats down
there all the time.
And it is definitely not a cat.
Just to just maybe ask you a different way, nothing that sounds like a, like an actual,
like a human baby cry, nothing weird like that, right?
No, now you will hear something that sounds kind of like that.
But then again, those big cats will make sounds like that.
And I think that when they make those sounds, it's when they're hunting,
trying to draw something closer to them.
Okay.
Because like coyotes will yelp and stuff.
One will yelp like it's hurt or something, try to draw a pet, a dog, or something out to it,
and the others attack it when they have to enter.
And so those cats will do that.
And here's another interesting thing.
You said out there, of course, I don't stay there all the time.
I'm just there here and there at some time.
One time I stayed out there for three months straight.
And you always know when the large predators are in the area
because I have tons of squirrels out there, birds out the wazoo.
You have rabbits and everything else all of the small game animals.
And when the large predators are in the area, those things are gone.
You won't see a bird.
You won't see a squirrel.
You won't see a rabbit.
You won't see nothing.
and it's just as quiet in the mornings when you wake up, there's no birds chirping,
there's nothing making a sound.
When the large predators are not in the area, and I'm just assuming the big cats,
all the wolves, or whatever this is making it sound,
when they're in the area, you hear nothing.
When they're not in the area, I have a tin roof on top of that cabin,
and it sounds like they're running a relay race up there, the squirrels,
and I have a potham, once in a while he'll get on top of that roof in the daylight,
and he'll bask himself in the sun.
And raccoons galore.
In fact, we had 11 baby raccoons this year that grew up out there.
And they're all over the porch, all over the top of the house, everything else.
They're just everywhere out there.
But when the large predators in the area, then things are combed.
Oh, that absolutely makes sense.
Speaking of weird noises, have you ever heard anything that sounds like a whoop?
Any whooping type noise in your area?
No.
Okay.
Now, we have several large owls out there, and I hear the owls, but they're unmistakably owls, and it's nothing like that.
And, of course, you hear the hogs that they make, which is, was unmistakable.
No, nothing like that.
Any situations where it's like a really large rock is thrown towards the cabin or anywhere in your property?
Like, all of a sudden a huge rock just gets thrown?
Not a rock.
I've had, I thought a stick hit the side of the house one night.
But then again, I have large trees all around the cabin.
And so I thought that that had a fallen out of the tree and hit it.
Didn't know for sure, but no rocks.
And I've got large iron or rock all around up there.
Obviously small, too, but never anything like that.
What type of trees do you have on your property?
Every one of them.
Pine trees, sweet gum oak, pin oak, red oak, white oaks.
You damn it, we've got them all dogwood.
I've got every tree out there.
Okay, got you.
You do have oak and acorns and stuff like that.
Oh, gosh, yeah.
Tons of it.
And see, that's another thing.
You hear them fall and hit the roof or the side of the house all the cabin all the time or the side of the pool shit.
Yeah.
Any a lot of different berries on your property, too?
No, not berries.
Like blackberries, nothing like that.
I don't.
Now, I do have musketine.
We have a lot of mustard dine out there.
They're very sweet when they are out.
And that's something I haven't thought about.
I used to as a kid, I remember, all the must of down vines we had around the old home place,
which was right there in Wood County in East Texas, not far from where I am now,
they would be laying all over the ground as they started rip and they'd fall off the tree and stuff.
I don't ever find, and until we're just talking about this, I don't ever find anything on the ground.
Now, that could be the raccoons, the possums, the squirrels.
I mean, there's a million things could be eating at, but I just don't.
I mean, I've never found anything on the ground.
And something maybe to keep an eye out for, and there could on your property keep an eye out for anything that maybe looks like a shelter that's been made or any weird trees that are broken a certain way or anything that looks like it's broken.
It's like, how did that get broken by itself?
That's crazy.
It's huge.
All right.
Here you go.
Along the spring.
Of course, the creek goes up, high creek will meander and ass around and stuff like that.
And it's got one part where it will split off and it makes a little island back there and goes to the back corner of the property.
Now, in the back corner of the property, just across on the farmer's side where there's a lot of trees and a whole lot of thick brush is where we have a pack of coyotes that live in that general area.
They stay out there all the time.
Have you ever seen the way the Indians in this country years ago, obviously, they would break a tree over and break it back up straight, actually not break it, just.
more bend it and everything and kind of hold it there where it makes like an S almost.
Absolutely.
And then it will grow that way and that will mark their way through the territory.
I have four of them trees along that creek that can't be more than about six inches around.
So they're not old enough to be from back in that area.
If it would have been looked like a hundred, two hundred year old tree or something, I could think,
okay, maybe somebody did that years ago.
But these aren't that old.
I would say maximum some of these trees,
there couldn't be more than 20 years old that are broke like that.
And some of them, the break is still down low,
where it was broke not too terribly long.
Some of it's 15 foot in the air where the tree's already grown
and it's still broke, but it's that high up now.
And it's definitely come straight up.
It'll come straight over one way or the other
and then broke and go straight back up.
How many have we got probably five, four, six?
Yeah, we've probably got four or six of them out there.
That's really interesting.
Very interesting. Everybody comes out there. This is a very interesting place out there.
A while back you had mentioned where you had the slap on the outside of the cabin. Did anyone ever go after that happened?
Do they go to the back of the cabin and look at the wall where they thought it may have been hit to see if you could see like the handprint or how high or anything like that?
My son went out there and he had a light and a gun obviously and he looked over.
never found nothing. And I can track a nat across the desert and a sandstorm, and I've not found
anything out there that I can see. For example, when I was first building the thing, I had the
cabin to where the walls were up, the windows weren't put in yet, the roof wasn't on it, it was just
rafters, but I had some plywood on the exterior of the walls. And so I was staying down in the tent
that night. We had about 17 or 19 at the time, pretty large fogs that roamed around there
and their herd, and they were coming through the property,
and I went and got inside the cabin,
because it's up on stilts, so they can't get penny,
and I had put my cot, and I laid it in there.
I thought, I'm just going to stay the night in here.
I'll be just fine.
And earlier that next morning,
I heard the most awful racket on the back porch.
I thought, what, in the world?
I didn't even have the doors on the cabin yet,
so I just had some plywood leaning across the bottom of it
where you could step over to go in and out,
because I didn't want something just walk in there.
And on the back porch was a little pig.
It couldn't have been two months old, maybe, very small.
And the coyotes had chased it down there and were trying to get it.
And you know how they'll hunt in different packs?
The ones that were chasing it into an area,
well, the other ones were coming back at it.
And they were trying to get up on the tall part of the porch on the front side,
but there were no stairs built yet, so they couldn't get up there.
So to this date, I still got the claw marks on there where they were trying to claw their way up to get up there.
and that's been there for almost four years now.
But whatever hit the back of the cabin left, no claw mark, it left, no indention of any kind,
it didn't leave the muddy of its hand or foot or anything on the side of the cabin.
You just didn't see nothing.
But then the interesting thing was there was no, because I keep everything cleared away,
so, you know, if we get a fire or something, it doesn't get right up against the edge.
So there was no sticks or limbs or anything laying there, like we limb fell out of a tree.
its side of the house or the side of the cabin there.
So there was nothing back there.
But there's so many leaves on the ground too,
there was no chance for a footprint to be left.
Man, that is some weird stuff.
Sure, Chris, man.
I would say continue to keep an ear out, keep an eye out.
Man, you could probably get some cool recordings.
Maybe from an audio recorder.
I know you haven't heard a lot lately,
but I just I appreciate you coming on, Chris,
and chatting about what's going on over at Bigfoot Springs.
It sounds like a cool place.
Please keep me up to date with,
if anything else weird,
happens there,
which I'm pretty sure you will continue to experience stuff for sure.
Oh, yeah,
whatever's there is,
it's there permanently,
and I don't see it going anywhere,
whatever it is,
but like I say,
I don't think it's out to hurt anything other than survive,
whatever species or whatever it is.
Yeah, absolutely.
Chris, thank you for chatting tonight.
Hey, no problem.
I appreciate you having me on you.
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You got the privilege of talking to Dom.
He's a lobster fisherman from Maine,
and he contacted me about some really interesting things
that he has experienced over the years.
But how's it going today, Dom?
It's going good, man.
I'm really happy to be able to share the story,
and glad that everybody else does too.
So thanks for giving it a platform and a voice.
We all appreciate it.
Thank you, man.
Oh, absolutely.
It's one of my highlights of the day is able to, after the kid goes to bed,
able to go into the recording studio and call up another person and get their story out there.
So I appreciate you coming on from Maine.
Very familiar.
It's the same way for me.
As soon as the kids asleep, then it's like time to listen to figure out what stories are out there,
see if there's a new podcast on.
I understand.
man so absolutely
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to you and I'm going to let you let you lead the way
Dom all right man
thank you very much
my name is Dom
I am from Colorado but
I live in Maine I do a little bit
commercial logging I also
work on lobster boats
I'm always trying to be in the wilderness
but I had two experiences
is when I was living in Colorado,
that both of them wasn't just me there.
I had somebody with me both times that saw the same thing,
and the way people react to it is definitely different,
but it was terrifying,
and it changed the way I looked at everything.
And I see a lot of similarities hearing other people's stories,
but I guess I'll just start with my introduction into Bigfoot in general.
Living in Colorado, working in the woods and playing around in the woods,
People always talk about it or somebody has a story here or there.
I had people that would pass by theories about what they thought these things were,
and people would say maybe there.
Some interdimensional thing or something that was an experiment or didn't evolve,
or I don't know myself.
And I think most people go through a phase where they might be interested in those things
if they live in a mountainous rural area.
And I just, I knew that there was always big things in the woods,
and I was always out there.
I grew up on a ranch, and we were always working with cows, working as horses,
and always in the woods and always aware there's a lot of mountain lions, a lot of bear.
Maybe not a lot of bear, but there's bear, and the brown bear can be nasty.
But in a place like Colorado, there's definitely the area for something big like that to live.
I was surprised.
It was when I really, you know, when I lived in different parts of the state,
I think that if I was Bigfoot, maybe I'd live way up in the mountains,
But wear this hat, I guess wait.
There's some real wild places.
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My first experience was when I was living in great experience.
Grand Junction, Colorado. I used to go for drives with friends that had corvettes or whatever. We used to take 141 up towards Gateway. And it was a pretty fun canyon to drive up. And you can check out the stars because there's big canyon walls and no light pollution from anywhere. There's always a spot that we would go check out. A friend of mine showed me that was next to the road. And it was in a field. We just hopped the fence across a little
Greek and we'd walk to this field and it looked like a school desk only it was made of concrete.
It was a really strange thing and we always contemplated on what this thing was, but it became a
spot I always liked to check out.
Wanted to come back.
It was just a way out there place that we could get alone.
Nobody was there.
And it was just a cool place to take a breath and take a walk away from society.
And this time, like I said, I was living in Grand Junction and I had a neighbor.
named Joe that was a friend of mine, a construction worker.
And him and his wife got in a fight, so we decided to go for a drive.
And I said, I know a cool place to blow steam off.
Let's go check out this place up to Canyon.
So we went ripping up to Canyon and suddenly got to this place.
And we hopped the fence and made it through the field.
And I literally said, here it is.
I was about to say, here is this weird, strange desk.
I was saying it's in the middle of this field.
I don't know what it's for, but sure is a cool.
spot was about to get those words out and I turned around and this roar came out of nowhere and I was walking
towards this desk and it was so dark he couldn't really see much and my friend was wearing flip flops
that is just the thing he did when he got home from work you put flip flops on all the time so I could
hear his flip flops walking behind me and this war came out it just was it froze me and I
hear Joe's flip-flops running out of the field back towards the car. And the sound and the roar
came at the same time. And I was turning around to look at this spot. And it was right there just
right in front of me. And I remember enough light to where I could see its head and the shape of
his shoulders and its traps around his neck. I could see its muscles. And that was standing right
next to me, like there was all the senses at that point.
You could sense something was there.
You could smell it.
You could hear it.
And the sound that it made, it sounded to me like it, like we surprised it or it was
angry that we were there because it was such like a shout beyond any range of any
vocal capabilities that I'm a metalhead.
And I've never heard anything like that.
And I just, as soon as I was making sense of everything and seeing its shape and how, because I'm about 6'1, you know, in boots, in this thing, I was looking above towards it, and I was looking up at it.
It was a foot taller than me.
Maybe that's a little, maybe that's a little much, but it was there.
I was gone.
And I just ran.
We got to the car.
We didn't say anything, and we drove down the canyon, and we didn't talk.
about it. You didn't want to talk about it or anything, and I wanted to know more. So I've obviously
poked her out and asked questions, but it was so frightening to just turn around and something
just be there. I grew up around animals, being surprised by an animal, and you always can hear
them or smell them or see them or something. And even most things in a field wouldn't be that
surprising a cow or anything. But this sound was just, it was the only thing that I've ever heard
anything that sounded like it was those Sierra sounds.
And it wasn't language or anything.
It's like the dutteral, it sounds like just an octave that we just can't get to.
Like it changes from some octave that humans don't have to like a shriek that we don't have.
And just hearing those sounds, it just gives me goosebumps every time I hear it
because it puts me right back in that spot.
And it just terrified me and him.
And I just was thankful to something.
Somebody else seen it with me, but I never really, you know, I'd say something here or there, but it scared us to death.
We had been around all kinds of animals, and he had too, but that was really an intense situation.
And just to think that something like that was out there, you always hope.
But now I knew I didn't know what else that could be.
There's elk around there, big horn sheep, and people have horses and cows.
There's just nothing that could have been.
Were you able to get a good look at what the creature's face looked like?
I couldn't see a profile of like a brow ridge or anything like that beyond what
have been around the forehead because of the way that I was looking at it.
So I couldn't see whether it had like a big nose or small nose or a human face or
it was just there wasn't a lot of hair on it but there was some.
around the face, but it really didn't have the kind of hair that I thought that it would have.
I didn't surprise to me. It was bald on top. I know it sounds probably strange to say,
but the more I picture it in my mind and think about it, and I thought about it a million times,
but it just, I really wish I could have because I would expect it to be, to look human, I would think.
It just, there's nothing that looks like that standing in a field like that. I didn't make a sound like that,
I don't know, but that was something standing upright and had a very large build.
I'd been around big, you know, bodybuilders, and nothing was ever been as big as some of the biggest guys I've ever known.
Anything that you remember about dimensions of the creature that seemed a little weird to you or the way it moved or anything like that?
Like, I've seen it. When I turn around and seen it, I just seen it barely move a shoulder.
and I would say, like when I compare him to like a bodybuilder, I had a friend that he's, like the world's largest bodybuilder.
He's six and nine and almost 300 pounds.
He was wider in the shoulders than he is.
And it, it was, he was huge.
I would think that he would, around seven feet, my friend Aaron that I'm talking about, he's a very large guy.
I would think this thing was be over 300 pounds.
just the mass that it had, just seeing shoulders like that in the traps, the muscles that are
go to the neck, it was just, it was big. And you can see the muscle, just when you see a horse
or a cow, I mean, they do have hair, but you can see that there's muscles, veins and stuff.
It was very, it just, it didn't, it was huge. So try to put yourself back in that situation.
Can you remember what emotions you were feeling inside when you have this actually in your sights and you were, you realize what you were looking at?
I, when I seen and heard it, like the sound had made, I felt it in me.
And I always say, I just don't, I'm not a flinch shirt, but I was frozen.
Like I could feel like vibrating in my body.
Like it was such a, it was almost like it had, it was my.
moving air and it was like I could feel the vibration and I could feel it in my chest and it was just it
was terror I was I didn't really think this thing's going to kill me as much as I was just shocked that
I did something was making this noise and it was standing in the middle of a field that nobody was
supposed to be in and it was we were there and it I don't know I just kept thinking that I surprised it
and I just don't know how that would have been possible I just don't
From what I hear other people say about them, I just was just, I was in shock.
I was just frozen and it's, I can just, as soon as I turned around and ran, I just, I remember getting to the barbed by our fence crossing it, getting in my friends' eclipse and peeling out and we were gone.
I went from being frozen to just being running for my life, like as fast as I could even think about it.
But just, I don't know. I guess it was just really fear and shock.
Wow. It remind me again, sorry, of the year that happened.
Oh, my gosh. Let's see, year. I think that would have had been 2005 or 2006.
Okay.
I think I'm just, I'm trying to think about when I lived right in that area, I'd have to guess around 2005, 2006.
Yeah. I was living down the western slope in Grand Junction.
And, yeah, it was real, not real mountainous in that area.
There is some mountains, but it's on the western slope of the continental divide.
It's like it turns the desert right in the middle of the continent right there, right in the Rockies.
And you can feel wilderness, but it's a lot of mesas.
Yeah, it definitely can be wild out there.
Have you ever heard of a place called Twin Peaks Bible Camp and Grand Junction?
That's so funny because Grand Junction is where I was living.
It's where my family ended up being based from.
Yep. I actually would probably be familiar with where I was from, but I would not familiar with that particular one. That's crazy.
Okay. So I'm just curious because there is a sighting near a Bible camp in Grand Junction as well.
Really? That's so funny. It's called just having the Twin Peaks name is cool, too. So that's mysterious also. I love that show. But that's interesting. I'm going to have to look in.
look into that one and see because I always try to see wherever I've lived all over in the U.S.
in any wild places I ask people.
I always ask the old people who work in the mines or people who work on the ocean or work in the woods.
Like you ever see anything strange?
It's important to ask people.
Like people, those stories need to be remembered for sure.
Oh, that's crazy.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Because this area, like I've never really looked on a map exactly where it was, but it was going up towards the town of Gateway.
and it was up highway on Route 141.
And I had two experiences, one on the other side of that Grand Valley in the town of Mesa.
And it was years later.
But it was, I'm going to have to see if there was any more on that Grand Mesa.
Because supposedly it's the biggest flat top mountain in the world.
And there's some wild places on it, too.
There's always rumors about stuff on that mountain.
It's huge.
And it's flat.
That's for sure.
Before we get to the second one, another question about your encounter near the interesting stone desk.
When you ran back to the car with your buddy and you sped off, was there any conversation in that car?
Or was it, nothing was said?
We were, we did a whole lot of cursing.
We mostly got to the car.
That was pretty much the extent.
and there might have been like, I certainly had a lot to say.
But my friend that I was with, he was just, if he didn't want to talk about stuff,
he just wasn't one of those guys to talk.
And he was really shaken up by, like, it really terrified him and scared him.
And he just, I'm like, he was scared and he wanted to be home.
And he was the older guy.
I think around that time, I was, shoot, I don't know, 19 or 20.
My buddy, he's in mid-30s.
You get in a situation like that, you look,
at the older person and take a little strength from them what to do or like what was that you tell me
and he just was terrified and so i just didn't push it and i told people here and there and talked with
like i said i'd ask people and the people that i talked with about aliens or conspiracies and
stuff that ended up being true and there's always mysterious things in those four corners area of
colorado talk about underground bases and all kinds of stuff and there is some very mysterious areas
down there in that area. Real remote places. There's tribes that disappear and stuff. But
I would like to know more sightings from in that area. I hear a lot of people talking about
skin walkers and stuff like that in that area. I've never heard anybody to my face tell me a story
about a skin walker. So I don't know. I do know that these things are real. As much as my son is
real and my daughter and my wife and as soon as much as me talking to you, these things are
exist. I don't know in what
how or in what
form there exist in this plane.
I've talked with people about
what they actually thought these were
and how we don't have a body
or there's no evidence and whether they
do bury their dead or not.
I know some people
really laugh this off
but one of the best conclusions
that I heard somebody say
came from the same person who told me
that he believes that they
were brought here to mine gold.
but then by who i don't know but then they were taken back or whatever because they couldn't
problem solve as well as the people you know the next version or whatever and supposedly a few
of them stayed and you know as things evolved or whatever they stayed around i don't know how much
i believe that he also had told me that you know they might be some type of being that you know
might exist you know in another dimension that we don't have access to
that some type of you know that some people might be that vibrates in a frequency that some people just
don't see some people just don't see deer before they jump across the road or they don't see a snake
before they step on it and even people that are trained to see stuff don't see stuff sometimes
I'm not saying that accounts for things but I just really thought about that a lot when I heard people talk
about what dimensions actually are and how many exist.
It makes me think that there might be other things that exist in other dimensions that we might
consider monsters or not or demons or angels or who knows.
But I don't know why there's not more people coming out and saying how they actually feel
or what's that they've had these experiences because I don't know.
I've never really heard a lot of people say that.
I thought to myself yesterday when I was thinking about if I was going to say something or not, I'm going to say something because maybe that is.
I know that people always draw that some UFO bigfoot connection that sometimes that they see them in the same spot that they see bigfits.
And there's definitely places that are like big energy vortexes and stuff like that.
So I could see something like that.
I don't know.
I'm sure that you've heard all kinds of different theories about it.
But I always thought that was strange, but it never kept me from wanting to say something about it.
Because I always knew that somebody was going to say, oh, man, Dom's crazy.
He's just one of those guys.
He's just, of course, he saw Bigfoot.
I never said anything about seeing Bigfoot until I did.
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Cool thing about bigfoot is that and a lot of people don't like this but there is no
proven truth about the creature yet because we have in the fact that we don't know if it's
interdimensional we don't know if it's an ape or anything because it hasn't been captured and
hasn't been studied.
So if someone says to you, I know 100% this is the thing, no, you don't because it hasn't
been captured and studied.
Now, you may, like myself personally, I agree with NAWAC where I think we're looking at
undiscovered grade eight, but like then you hear the Chestnut Ridge, Stan Gordon side of things,
and you have these UFO sightings and then Bigfoot sightings along right along with them.
There's all sorts of stuff when it comes to Bigfoot out there in the world for sure.
There's definitely, definitely think that the people who see things in the sky
and people who see things in the woods are the same type of person.
They usually, hopefully they'll say something about it.
But their stories like those are really, I think that it's not like something that would be so far-fetched.
I really, in that part of Colorado, there's always been, like I said,
This talks about there being some kind of base,
and people are always seeing the same types of crafts in the sky.
And we literally would talk about if we thought that they were government or not.
I never saw any.
But I don't know, this kid, he looked us in the face,
and the only time I ever seen us, this dude, be honest,
he said that they're going down the highway near the four corners,
and there's a big black V flying right down the power lines,
just going right down it real slow.
Everybody was stopping looking at it, trying to take pictures and stuff.
And I made him say something.
And I think that's good.
But in that area, there's a lot of strange stuff.
And I always hope living out here in Maine now that I'm going to hear some really cool ocean stories or something.
But as much as I worked out there, I've seen some great white charts.
But nothing cool.
There's no big foot out there.
Nice.
Nice.
Hey, you never know.
So you had your awesome sighting in Grand Junction area.
So how long after did you have your, you had a sighting in, you said, Mesa?
Yeah, in Mesa, there's a, in the Grand Valley, that Mesa is like, it's the biggest mountain out there.
You can't miss it.
It's big and flat.
And it's got a powder-hornsky resort up there.
It's got all kinds of lakes and all kinds of wilderness.
It's a beautiful place.
And I'd have to say this is probably around, I think, around 2000.
9, 2010, maybe 2011.
I really wish I would have tried to narrow down the years better.
I'm sorry, I just, geez, time flies.
But yeah, up there on that Mesa, there was a house that I rented, and it was in the town of Mesa,
and there were a lot of wild spots up there, right?
I had some good friends that were awesome skiers and snowboarders,
and they were always going up in these awesome, real wild places.
And it was really interesting place to be, and it really was psyched.
to find a place to rent up there. It's just really far from town. So I was at the end of this real
long driveway and there was a corral with nothing that was ever in it. And it was just a real quiet place.
Up there, big mountain in the desert, nothing in the sky. You always see the stars, a real beautiful
place and I really enjoyed living up there. It's just really far. I was up there and this girl I was
seeing, he just started renting this place. Every now he'd get home, we'd be exhausted. So he finally got
home at a decent time and I decided we were going to have a drink and go sit on the top of the
truck and look at the stars and having some drinks and looking at the stars and all that.
I, to tell you, I've been trying to think about how I was going to tell this story,
but we're about to talk about some sex for a second.
So me and this girl, we had some sex up on top of the suburban that I had
and out there just looking at the stars.
And this girl I was with, she was on her period.
And I don't know if there had anything to do with it,
but we started hearing and breathing right next to us.
And there's no animals in the crowd,
which is towards right where we were.
And we looked at it.
And there's standing right over there by us.
It was like to say it was probably,
it felt like it was right close to us,
but we saw the whole profile of it.
And it wasn't just me that saw it, so I was thankful for that.
But we were terrified.
And we didn't make any noise or anything.
We jumped down real quick, got right in the truck and drove right down our driveway.
And we were really freaked out that we just went from not really paying attention to anything to having something potentially stalk us.
It really terrified us.
And our house was right there, not real far from it, five or not really far from it.
hundred feet away. We got inside and we turned off all the lights and we closed the blinds and
we hadn't got any good blinds for the place and they were these little white, we could pretty much
see through them and we were terrified that it was just going to walk up the driveway. We didn't
look at what it did or if it stayed there, but it was just standing there with one arm cocked and
head cocked and that was that. And we seen it at the same.
same time and she screamed and we got right down and drove the 500 feet down the driveway.
What good that would do, I don't know.
But we were terrified.
Locked in the door, we thought they wanted to come in or would want to because it saw
where we went.
And it really was very strange.
It's a very strange story to try to tell people about your personal life.
We're about someone you were with too.
but at that time
because I just
I really didn't think about what it was
or wasn't we were shocked
that something was right there
I didn't really ever since I had that experience
I knew that things existed but it
really scared us and
we kind of me and her
the thing that we thought was that because
maybe she was menstruating
then maybe it smelled it
I don't like I said I'm trying to figure out
how I was going to put all this but I just figured I'd
to say it how it was and the only thing like maybe smell this and walked up or something i don't know
but it terrified her and it terrified me but we talked about that a lot and i mean we talked about that
even with her family and i mean we didn't really you know the fact that it wasn't a man was you know
if it was just some pervert just standing there watching people that would be obviously you'd be
enraged and want to protect whoever you're with and get out of any dangerous situations.
But she clearly, I could see as you look like she was looking at a monster, you know.
And I mean, she kind of, you know, me and her dad had kind of talked about Bigfoot before.
It says, it's like, I kind of saw, you know, someone's face being, like, terrified and shocked
and terrified real fast.
It just sheer terror.
What do you do?
At that point, I'd already talked about with people if they were interdimensional,
if it wanted to come in the house, closing the blinds and locking the door and laying on the
floor so they can't look in the blinds isn't going to do any good.
I just know that's just a ludicrous story.
I know so many people are going to make fun of me for that.
But I really, I don't know what part that had to play in it, but it made sense to me almost.
Like I said, when I had that experience towards up in that canyon,
And I wish I could have seen a face or something because something like that, it just doesn't look at things and see faces in them, just in trees or in leaves or in rock.
Something that is standing upright that's not dragging its arms on the ground and not slouched over.
You expect to look like a human.
And I really would have liked to have seen it.
But it's just panicking about what way anything and anybody's going to run is, I don't know.
I wish I would have paid attention.
more about where it went because we have someone freaking out so bad that trying to just trying to get
the doors unlocked and them in and then back out and then in the house it's difficult enough trying to
figure out where something like that wants to be it's just going to be but it was really I'm shocked
about that too and I feel like they just they just appeared in spots in my life and I think that's
weird and I don't know if that's just what they feel like they do for other people but like I said
I felt like I walked up and stepped on one's heel pretty much, and it was, like, pissed off or surprised that I did it.
And that other one is just popped up.
And hearing the breath, being around big animals, like cows and horses, you hear something that has big lungs taking big breaths, like the mucus in their lungs or just whatever.
You hear them breathing through their nose or their mouth and just some of real big lungs.
There was never any cows or horses in that corral or even any fields near it since I'd started renting that place.
and it was just something you hear like that right away.
It just snaps you right out of whatever you're doing
and you look right towards what the sound is.
And I didn't see a color anything,
but that didn't have anything that, like I said,
the canyon, like that one was bald on top.
But this one, you could see it had hair on it.
It was definitely the shape of a large hairy man standing there.
And I would have to say, like dimension-wise,
that one that's probably
I mean I looking at my
son's play set out there in the back stand
about eight foot tall I don't think that it would have been that tall
I think it was probably
a little shorter than that
it was big I mean something that
tall I mean it's definitely
it's a big animal or whatever it is
but something like that
when you're hearing them breathe
I hear people you know telling stories about
looking them in the eye or seeing steam
coming off of them
and looking at the hairs on their skin
and seeing the skin and the hair,
like, I'm like, I like hearing people say that
because when you're looking at something,
like people have big foot cutouts in their yards all over.
In Maine, they do in Colorado.
But when you're looking at something that's an animal
or that's alive, that's consciously looking back at you,
you notice when a bird is looking at you,
you're like, hey, what's a bird, squirrel's looking at you?
Bigger animals, same thing, but something like that.
You're consciously looking at you.
is terrifying because usually man, the woman in the woods,
you're not going to have too much trouble with something.
But I just felt like both times,
just like my space all of a sudden,
there was something right in the space that exists around you.
You can feel something is there.
And I could definitely say it wasn't the only person
that felt that either time.
And like I said,
I best are people about this all the time.
And I think on a lot of my friends,
when they're trips to the woods,
they're drinking and shit like that.
And I just, I wonder how much stuff actually goes on in the woods that people don't even get to see because they're, I take advantage of any time I'm out there now, just in case.
But I don't know if it works like that.
But these times I definitely wasn't looking for anything like that.
I'll be honest.
It's not the first time that it has come up on the show.
Think of one and I had to take it out.
Yeah.
Just because of the person who was telling the story requested I take it.
it out. But you're not the first person that that has brought up something similar.
I always wondered that if it's something that because what this looked like to me was if they were
going to procreate or something, they would probably do it like us, like just another animal,
seeing another animal doing that. I just don't, I think that they would be interested in it or
wondering why they looked like them or I don't know. I just, I was always interested that if there
was more people that had that experience because it just makes sense to me too.
And there's been stories of people getting drug off and all kinds of stuff.
I don't think anything like that.
I just think that when different species of animals, maybe they see or hear and think,
oh, they're like us too.
Or I don't know.
Who knows?
I'm glad to hear the other people are at least saying it because that's just how you have to do it.
Some of it's going to sound stupid.
And as you're saying it to someone, you're going to be like, I'm going to sound so stupid right now.
Definitely not because there's an online blog.
It's a cryptosology blog called Cryptomundo.com, like Craig Woolheater.
And he's got an article where he even talks about this.
And I'll link the article.
But there's been at least one BFRO citing report where administration was
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And then it kind of ties back into,
you were wondering, like, if that kind of thing can attract.
Well, I always wonder, when you hear David Pilates as such,
he has so much good information on people like telling real stories.
I think he's such a good example of people,
someone that's going on getting the stories
and leaving them to do their own work by just telling the story.
And a lot of these people are having experiences, like some of them, they're not saying what they're seeing.
They're not looking at it.
And I always thought, I always wondered, are we going the wrong way when we think that?
You know what I mean?
I know that sounds so vague, but maybe they're not as much ape or human at all.
Maybe, I don't know.
I always wonder because people are like, oh, they're just eight men out in the woods and stuff.
And I mean, you know, I've been to zoos and seen monkeys and chimpanzees and stuff like that.
I have a question about your partner during the second encounter.
Did she believe in Bigfoot before?
Oh, yeah.
The funny thing about me and her dad, we had so many talks about he was really big into Bigfoot and stuff.
He was always talking about books that he was reading and new angles on the past.
Patterson Gimlin film and stories from here, the skunk ape stories and stuff.
And he was always giving me his opinion and what he thought things were.
And she was always part of that by default, by osmosis, by him just wanting to learn about it.
And she spent, in all due respect, more time in the woods than I ever have.
And I've, she just was one of those people, her family.
They grew up just being in the woods and round animals all the time.
and I knew that everyone thought that
like we were all crazy for having this talk
but the funny thing about you asking about this
is that we never felt strange
for going up to her dad and saying
guess what?
Guess what happened us?
It wasn't like that.
I was like, we just saw one.
He always was always looking in the woods for stuff
and he's never had any experiences really that I knew up
but he always felt like he was on the trail of it somewhere
and always collecting stories as he could find him and stuff.
But we were excited to tell him
because he just always believed in it and stuff like that too.
He had guys that he worked with breaking horses
and doing many other things that had had experiences in the woods
that he said that a percent, like, he knew that it existed.
It was just something that, you know,
I think that there is a lot more people that considered it
something that lives and breathes and exists that we know of.
And I think that works out to our favor.
I think that more people are becoming open to saying, like,
stories that have became like a family story,
something that happened to Grandpa.
They don't want people, things like that,
or Dad didn't want to say anything about this during the war or something.
You get these guys coming back from places like Vietnam having,
like with the Rock Ape story,
having fights with these giant rock apes and stuff.
Like we're always trying to, you know, hear cool stories about stuff like that.
But no, we were very hip to, you know, learning about Bigfoot or UFOs
or trying to get the information at least because all you can do is get the information
and kind of sort through.
So, like, the conversation with her father, that turned out okay.
Oh, yeah.
That didn't go sideways or anything.
Wow.
Are you in the least bit surprised?
As tough as they were, or I shouldn't say it were, are.
Like, and the kind of terrain that they'd been through on horseback
and the stuff that they'd put me through in the woods for fun with them on horseback,
I know how tough they are.
Like, he didn't surprise him or freak him out or anything like that.
We knew what everybody can handle.
They are very tough people and really good with the animals.
I don't know. I guess I can understand.
Like, with some people being like, oh, would you be freaked out to say something?
I was psyched because something you could actually say,
look, I've got something to say, this is awesome.
This has some weights.
I know you've got stories, but guess what?
And guess who was with me?
Just to have somebody corroborate and a lot of times things happen.
Obviously, nobody ever has a camera conveniently or whatever.
However, that always works.
It's just the roll of the dice.
It's all kinds of times on the boat.
I can't get my phone out to take a picture of a big lobster or a shark or something because my hands are wet.
It just works like that sometimes.
That is one of the most interesting stories.
And after, let's say, there's that night you left, did you go back the next day to look around the area to see if you could find any evidence or anything, I thought?
No, I didn't.
After that, I kind of joked about going up to that spot with myself.
Maybe I should just go for a drive up there and just take a look.
And I'd gone up that way a little bit for a couple jobs I was doing.
And I could never really, I could never really find it in myself for a reason to want to go back out there.
Not because I felt like there was going to be something waiting for me or that I'd even get any resolve from it.
Because, I mean, it was in the middle of a field at this weird, you know, at this weird concrete,
desk that if they literally made a child's desk for like middle school out of concrete it was the
most absurdly weird thing it was like a modern art piece like from like someplace in seattle or
something it was just obnoxiously weird and it's just i just never i knew that if i went back
and tried to find some answers there wouldn't be there because that's just how it would have worked
I knew that it was just going to be gone like anywhere else.
And that place that I lived up in the town of Mesa, I just had to live there.
It was just part of living there.
I just always was sketched out about being there.
And we didn't live there for long.
And I didn't, it was a long commute.
So I was able to get out of that pretty quickly.
But it always left just a weird feeling about just being around there.
There was just something like that.
If you just don't feel like you have, like you, something like that can overpower you and just, it's just, it takes you down a notch knowing that something like that is round and close.
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It's not like being in bear country or anything like that.
It's something that's conscious on a different level
than something that, you know, like a bear.
This can problem solve, apparently,
and just really, it just left a weird,
just to say like a weird dark energy
because it wasn't bad,
it was more just being freaked out
about feeling like all of a sudden this place way up in the mountains.
I thought was a nice little secluded little cabin, nice little place to rent with a nice little
cobbid, you know, have a little corral just in case, you know, you get a horse or something,
and it just put it like a stain on it where just like I really felt like it wasn't safe in the place
that you wanted to have a home at. So I just was ready to go. I spend enough time in the woods and
stuff where it's like even if you wanted to go back to some of these spots, I feel like you just got to do it by chance to be lucky.
I felt like if I ever looked at it like I wanted to see something or find something, I just, it wouldn't work that way.
That's if I buy the lottery ticket.
Guaranteed, gonna lose.
Doesn't work that way for me.
So it has to on the fly and just has to come to me in some weird way.
And I was really hoping that now that I'm out here in Maine, like I could start talking with some people about any experiences that they'd have.
and hearing that story from the guy who cuts wood up north of here, like, that was really
encouraging to hear that's what made me decide I've got at least send an email in and at least
say something because that's somebody I could literally probably, I bet you I cut trees
and with people that know who that is. You know, I bet you I can figure out who it is and
probably sit down and talk with them if they wanted to. You know what I mean? And that makes
me feel good to know that people that are having real experience.
like that and like I said I'm only you know I'm just a guy on a pot who's talking to you on a podcast
about a story that I've had like it's only as real as it is to us you know to our mind and how we
accept it and you know I feel like you know that story right there knowing that I could literally
probably if I wanted to you know if they were accepting of it sit down and talk about it like I
want to, you know, that made me want to make sure that more people could feel that way. Like,
more people were going to start saying these experiences that, I mean, you know, that story in
particular, I mean, I know all about that wild that country is. And I've always joke about wanting
to go up there and cut wood, but I don't know if I'm in enough. There's some tough country up there
too. Maine is a lot more wild than people think it is. That's for sure. Maine is crazy, but it's
Awesome. I would feel that if you keep asking up there, you're going to run into some stories, no doubt.
Oh, I've heard people talk about seeing big cats in the state. Like, I used to fish off a boat in Addison. We call this down east Maine where I'm at now.
And like I live in Down East Main and I work on Mount Desert Island. And I used to fish farther from here at what they call,
down east towards Addison, long drive.
And I was going to the boat one morning.
We've seen just a big giant cat out here.
And they never seen big mountain lions out here.
And I'm like, geez, if I was a mountain lion, Maine, all the granite.
Oh, man, this would be a great place.
I'd be here.
It was pretty cold, though.
Did you never come up to Maine at all?
Yeah, definitely.
So I grew up in Western Massachusetts in a town called Northfield.
So we would vacation.
We would, we've done the whole
kind of bunk port thing,
Camden, Catery. We've also
gone hiking up
near not actual Katadin, but
like the base of Katadin.
Oh, nice.
Run in with a moose
and his family there
when I was about
11 or 12 in my family.
That's another story. But
yeah, that whole main area
is wild and especially when you get
up, you go north up by the
Canadian border. It gets crazy up
But there are some really interesting Bigfoot things that come up in Maine.
There's this one story you should look up.
I believe it's called the Medi Bemp's Howler.
That's a fun one to look up.
There's not a lot about it.
But I think I actually on someone's channel, you know,
because I on YouTube, like Bob Gimlin, he's a great one.
Oh, yep.
The Sasquatch, Les Stroud.
I love Leszraud, like his work.
and I think he's a very credible, respectful man.
I think he goes about it very professionally, very respectfully.
He is definitely, I think, his experience in Alaska, like, I thought that was really,
you'd figure that people would spend their lives in all kinds of jungles and countries
would come back with all kinds of stories.
Sometimes it just doesn't happen like that's when you're literally not paying attention or something.
Yeah, he's got, but there is some good information out there.
One of those guys in one of those channels had saw,
You called it.
It was the Medi Beps Howler, right?
Medi Bemp's Howler.
I want to say it might have been on.
There's an old site called Bigfootencounters.com.
You would love it.
You should check it out.
Yeah, it's got some really great old stories and accounts.
Old researcher, Bobby Short, who's unfortunately not with us anymore, but BigfootenCounters.com is great to check out.
Oh, I mean, I have that out.
Thank you for letting me now.
Yeah.
Yeah. I like, there's always like the Rocky Mountain Bigfoot organization,
one of the first places when I was younger and this happened that I like started trying to put my story in.
And in all fairness, like only in the past couple years have I even decided to actually,
probably in the past eight years, I decided to actually get a smartphone.
Like never wanted a computer, never wanted email addresses or any of that stuff.
And so like now I'm actually like trying to find a lot of this information.
and actually finding some good stuff.
And wouldn't have found you or any of that stuff any other way.
And I'm glad that there is such a good, easy route to do that.
And like I said, once again, the platform, it's great to have it, dude.
Thank you so much.
Absolutely.
Dom, I'm so glad you reached out to me and we were able to chat for a little bit about your encounters.
And I hope that you keep in touch.
And if you ever run into anything up in Maine, definitely let me know.
or if you ever get back to Colorado and anything out from there, definitely that as well.
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