Bigfoot Society - Episode 5: Seth Breedlove and the Terror of Area X (Bigfoot Society Classic)

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

In this classic episode of Bigfoot Society, I interview Seth Breedlove way back in June of 2019. I consider this my first big interview. We talk about some extremely intense encounters he had happen i...n the infamous “Area X” of Oklahoma, Terror in the Skies and more.Seth Breedlove heads up the production company “Small Town Monsters”. Check out all the STM goodness over at www.smalltownmonsters.comResources:On the Trail of Bigfoot: The Search - https://amzn.to/3s1HspM (Amazon Affiliate link)Terror in the Skies - https://amzn.to/43UmVRm (Amazon Affiliate link)Momo: The Missouri Monster - https://amzn.to/3s7cFYx (Amazon Affiliate link)Valley of the Apes by Michael Mayes - https://amzn.to/451ECQg (Amazon Affiliate link)WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzESend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!”If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! ——Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases.This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR ——My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card.https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsociety

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Starting point is 00:02:40 A large part of what it is that you're making. some episodes along the way that you didn't catch. So join me as we hear old episodes and meet old friends for the first time in this week's Bigfoot Society classic. Another episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. This is a classic episode. It's actually the first interview that I ever did with another person. Well, yeah. Mr. Seth Breedlove from June of 2019.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I'm sure you'll enjoy this throwback episode. I can't remember a thing about it, but I do remember it was very enjoyable, and I was pumped to talk to Seth, and I've been able to talk to him a few times since then. But before we get started, if you would like to help out the podcast for something that costs absolutely nothing,
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Starting point is 00:04:50 And don't miss Friday's show. All right. Thanks for listening. Hello everyone. And welcome to the Bigfoot Society podcast. We've got a fantastic episode for you today. We've got the Seth Breedlove here. Well, not here, but, you know, he's over the magic of Skype.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And you'll be hearing from him in a little bit. We'll talk about all sorts of cool stuff. And you'll be getting a little bit of new info about some of films he's got coming out. But a really fantastic discussion about Bigfoot. And I do say that word fantastic about 10,000 times during the interview. But first, we want to hear from one of our listeners. Andy. So let me play this real quick. He's going to share what his favorite historical encounter or story about Bigfoot was. So let's check it up. Hello, Jeremiah. This is Andy from the Bigfoot Gumbo podcast. My favorite historical account of Bigfoot is the 1941 Ruby Creek encounter with Jeannie Chapman and her children. It's my favorite because it occurred 17 years before the name.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Bigfoot was used in newspapers and 26 years before the Patterson Gimlin film, giving this story a lot of credibility. Thanks. Thanks again, Andy, for sharing that favorite Bigfoot encounter you had. Again, if you want to share a message with Bigfoot Society as well, stick around. You'll hear later on the show how you can do that. again check out Andy he's got his own podcast to bigfoot gumbo is what is called as he just heard
Starting point is 00:06:43 and pretty good stuff so go ahead and check him out there let's get into the main event tonight we're going to have our interview with set breed love next so get ready everyone this is our interview with set breed love and we got some questions for him about all the bigfoot stuff he does for the podcast and he's got some questions along the way as well. Seth, do you mind if I have you go ahead and introduce yourself and what it is you do? Yeah, yeah, I'm Seth, Breedlove. I run, I don't know, I never know how to put it. I help run Smalltown Monsters, which is an independent film production company based in
Starting point is 00:07:30 Wadsworth, Ohio, that I operate with my wife. And probably like through four friends as far as like the core group of guys. And then there's a much larger group of people that are involved in various, apparently you. They're involved in various capacities kind of based around the country. So yeah, it's a completely, I would say it's like a completely autonomous independent production company that is slowly growing across. four and a half years. And we make mostly documentaries focused on the paranormal and cryptids and unexplained subjects. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Very cool. Seth is definitely being humble. If you haven't checked out any of his documentaries, they are fantastic. I myself am a super fan of On the Trail of Bigfoot. man that was that was fantastic uh and terror in the skies uh i was a pa on that with my buddy andrew up here in iowa who did some interviews for set but uh man they're just getting better and better dude like awesome thank yeah the the um on the trail of it was weird because i could not i mean going into it i had told my wife i thought that was going to be the one that like killed us
Starting point is 00:08:55 because like killed you for real or killed well yeah that but like also just killed their reputation because I was um I like that you know like it was it was called like a solo filmmaking experiment or whatever which isn't entirely true I mean there were people involved in the shooting of on the trail of Bigfoot to an extent like we had you know when I went to PA like I had someone holding an extra camera so I was actually able to be in some of the shots although you'd be shocked at like how many of the scenes that I'm in are really just like repeated shots just from different angles. Oh, really? Yeah, it's kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But yeah, no, the editing of that was what I was convinced was just going to do us in because I couldn't. I edited the whole thing. I mean, I edit all our movies myself, but I edited all of on the trailer Bigfoot by myself. And it was done in, no joke, about a six to eight week period of frantic editing where I had thought it would just be a very. sort of breezy
Starting point is 00:10:03 edit and I don't know why that is because there were 22 people interviewed there's you know multiple multiple locations and all that kind of stuff but I really thought you know well I don't have to deal with like effect shots and all that and what it turns out is like those
Starting point is 00:10:19 effect shots are great because like they're just coverage and most of the time the artist has already done all the works I don't really have to do squat with that but with this it was it was trying to find trying to make everything fit together. Every episode of on the trailer of Bigfoot was edited like multiple times.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Like I would do a cut and then realize I hated it and then recut it and then realize that didn't work and then recut it again. It's like every episode with the exception of episode five and I believe six were edited like three or four times. And then just just to get them working because I don't do I don't do like any kind of pre-planning
Starting point is 00:10:57 which is probably pretty obvious. Honestly if you're watching I don't do any like pre-planning and and the stories really come together in the edit. There's a lot of like, you know, just shooting by the seat of our pants and then hopefully we're going to find the through line for everything. Momo changes all that because the whole thing's scripted. Oh my gosh. I'm so pumped for Momo.
Starting point is 00:11:20 You have no idea. Like just to see Cliff and Bobo in those shots where you have them like dressed up as like, I don't even know. Like if it's cabboys or like posy or what? Cliff is, if you look at like the actual photos of who they're playing, that is what those dudes kind of like kind of how they dressed, which is funny because Missouri. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:41 Cliff's playing Chief Ward, Chief Shelby Ward, who was a real guy and that was one of the dudes that led, he was the Louisiana sheriff and he actually led the posse, one of the possees up the hill to look for, for Momo on Star Hill. And Bobo was playing like an amalgamation. of multiple
Starting point is 00:12:00 deputies that were around at that time. And then, you know, like the Mo Mo Mo we haven't talked too much about and very purposely like we're trying to keep all the focus
Starting point is 00:12:13 right now on terror in the skies because it has an uphill battle given the subject matter. Totally. So we're kind of like really pushing terror but I'm I'm dying to promote Mo Mo Mo Mo Moe because as soon as people start seeing trailers
Starting point is 00:12:27 and Liles sort of Lyle's place in the movie is very different from what we've done before because he's playing sort of a late night horror host who's introducing audiences to this unreleased movie from the 1970s called MoMA the Missouri Monster and then the movie will segue way back and forth between this like over the top 1970s drive-in movie called MoMo and the actual documentary portion of the movie so we interviewed like real we interviewed like real we interviewed like the real Shelby Ward's daughter and like people like that. So you'll, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:13:05 It's like Roshamon by way of like Bigfoot and Grindhouse movies from the 70s. Wow. Oh, what was I listening to the other day? This is terrible. Nope, it was you. You had that episode about Bigfoot, Bigfoot exploitation movies. Was that you? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:25 That was such an amazing episode. There's like, man, I got to watch a lot of episodes. Oh, cool. Yeah, that's all, most of that's Mark. Yeah, most of that's Mark, though. Because, like, I come through with, like, the typical, you know, like, oh, check out, Lytton of Balgy Creek and Creature from Black Lake. Mark told that, I can't even remember the name of it.
Starting point is 00:13:43 There's this movie he talked about that was, like, directed by Robert W. Morgan. That's a 1970s, like, like, Sasquatch Poitation movie with Robert Morgan in it, and he directed it. And I can't think of what it's called, but it's horrendous. But kind of good at the same time. It's weird. But I watched it recently. It is a weird, weird movie. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Having said that, I can't remember the title of it. So this is pointless. But yeah, we are really, like, stoked about Mo Mo. And anyone who's into our stuff will probably have some hesitance when the trailers and stuff come out. because I think it's going to look like almost it's almost going to look as if we have made everything that we have always kind of ranted and raved against like all the over the top dramatizations and all that kind of stuff and then and then the trailer's going to come out and you're going to see
Starting point is 00:14:44 this trailer for this movie that looks like we have made that like a way over the top dramatization of a real event and it kind of is the shark yeah yeah but at the same time like we kind of um it is it is also like quintessential small toe monsters i have a feeling this is going to be like for for sdm fans like people who are really into stm this will be yeah this will be a project that they kind of claim as their favorite yeah i'm excited i'm excited for it dude like okay so i was uh plug for you guys i was one of the um kick starters and uh so i've had access to like you know on the trail of bigfoot terror in the skies for quite a while and i so i totally forgot that like terror in the skies isn't even it's not even out yet right right comes out fly day yeah so um but
Starting point is 00:15:36 yeah it so listeners next time seth has a kickstarter get on that um i mean just today i got the uh signed DVD of terror in the skies plus a cool little sticker as well in the mail yeah and they're still like so cool they're still like they're still all kinds of stuff coming for like backers and and we're going to do some cool stuff with the the Mo MoD DVD. I'm thinking of doing like a two disc set because we have the way the, this is this will be the first time I've talked about any of this, but like the way I'm editing the sort of like drive-in narrative film is it is literally being edited start to finish as it as its own
Starting point is 00:16:17 separate movie. And then I'll be chopping that up and it'll be editing. naturally into the actual full length, like documentary and it'll slow really well. But there will be an existent start to finish cut of the narrative. So what we're going to do is we're going to put that narrative film on the DVD. So anyone that wants to watch like the narrative film without, you know, like without to see what it would be like if you actually saw that movie, you'll be able to watch it. Dude, I love that. That's so cool.
Starting point is 00:16:49 That's very cool. It's crazy. It's like a it's a family drama Mashed up with like You know the Legend of Bockees style sort of Ducu drama thing The Legend of Boggy Creek sort of spearheaded And then like just the most ridiculous
Starting point is 00:17:10 Over the top kind of like Sasquatch exploitation stuff from the series It really does have like We set out to make something that would feel like It was a movie made in the same 70s that no one's ever seen and I think like we successfully pulled it off and like the
Starting point is 00:17:27 the Bobo cliff cliff scenes are by far like my pot those posse scenes are the best scenes in the entire movie and it's really crazy and there's some super quotable lines please say there's bloopers
Starting point is 00:17:43 are there bloopers oh there's so many bloopers oh my gosh and I might yeah we're definitely gonna have to do that for the you have to have a blooper real dude Yeah, and the, in the beginning, like the movie opens with this very, like, 70s, almost like slasher scene. Oh, wow. Which is sort of a recreation of the, I can never remember what their name, Joan Mills and Mary Ryan. It might be, I might be getting, it might be Mary Ryan and Joan Mills.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Either way, they were picnicking and they encountered Momo supposedly one year prior to the Harrison family encounter. So this is like a retelling of that only in like 1970s slasher style. Okay. And then it ends. So it begins with that movie and then the movie ends with this insane posse sequence that all is sort of the one of the big moments of the entire movie. Dude, I love insane posse sequences. Like you've heard of the van meter visit. You've heard of the band meter visit.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Oh, yes. So the end of that is like they posse up and they, uh, chase it over to the mine at the edge of van meter and like the Des Moines registers like and they shot enough to blow it straight to hell. Yes. But can you imagine like that posse scene? Like that's legit. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:21:26 Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a Reese's. Loving the idea of like the posse and this is kind of that. Very cool. Very cool. Oh, also. listeners and if you care Seth that's cool too but plug for the van meter visitor festival it's
Starting point is 00:21:54 in uh this fall and we have linda godfrey coming down this time and she is going to be um debuting her new documentary DVD about uh panthers like a panther cryptic so it'll be fantastic we're excited yeah really cool but it'll be the first time she's shown it so good stuff good stuff wanted so wanted to go back loop around and on the trail of bigfoot so first off when i first started watching that took me right back to when i was a little kid and i was watching uh in search of with my dad and i was like man like this is really cool to be a part of this because like just those drone footage shots you have along with the music fits great good stuff um specifically about like the area
Starting point is 00:22:48 the area episode I love because I wasn't expecting you to take it in a direction for like conservation but it worked extremely well
Starting point is 00:23:00 like that was fantastic what was what was the craziest like when you look back at your time on area X or being down there and I know you had like
Starting point is 00:23:11 pretty bad migraines right I remember hearing about that yeah I had migraines for, we got in there on like a, geez, I can't remember. It was, we were only in there for two and a half days. I mean, there's such a short period of time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And in that entire time, I never got rid of the headache. Like I had one of these migraines, pretty much the entire time we're in there. So what do you think? What's the, besides that, what's the craziest, like, story you have out of area X? From my time in there? Yeah, just from your time. Yeah, I mean, from my, I mean, the craziest thing that happened isn't even necessarily the, I mean, it probably be the, in terms of like the weirdest thing that happened, it was everything that led up to the, you know, to the rock throw and the, and the scream we heard that night. But, you know, prior to that, there was, there was all sorts of strange stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:12 because of the fact that Brian and Darrell were call blasting. And when I say strange stuff, I don't mean that like it was strange like paranormal activity. Like they, they were call blasting Gregorian Chance. What? Yeah, yeah. Like, and it's super creepy.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Like, because you're in this place where it's really quiet. There isn't a ton of like animal noise or cricket noise or any of that kind of stuff in there. So it's very very sort of quiet. And you've just got these these Gregorian chance call blasting out across this valley, you know, and it's pitch black and you can't see your hand in
Starting point is 00:24:47 front of your face. And, um, you know, and eventually Daryl started like calling back and forth with an owl. Um, nice. It was just a really, yeah, it was a really bizarre, um, sequence that led up to that, that rock throw. But I mean, the rock throw, what, what, you know, so, so for listeners, the event that happened is it was like 2.30 in the morning. Um, it's our last night there. And, um, um, and I was going to, I had to go to bed because, like, I had this migraine. I wanted to stay up and just try to hopefully capture some sort of evidence of something, you know, in the woods. But I was, I was call blasting, or they were call blasting and, you know, like, finally the headache got me. And I decided it was going to go to bed.
Starting point is 00:25:33 So we went to, we went to sleep around midnight. And at 2.30 a.m. I still hadn't managed to fall asleep. And I was just laying there with this pounding headache. but I just started to kind of doze off. And it was about that moment of this like ear piercing like crash happened. And it was clearly like a rock hitting the roof of what they call the hooch, which is like this metal outbuilding. Yeah, I've never seen that.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah. So the the rock crashes into the roof of that building. And pretty much as soon as it does, there's no real silence following it. I mean, it was almost instantaneous. I mean, my, you know, my eyes shoot open. Adams shoot open. We're both looking at each other. We're still laying down.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And then this whoop happens. And it was, I always say it was like a John Wayne movie, like a stereotypical like Apache warrior in a John Wayne movie or something like that. You know, it was just like this whoop. And then it was followed by this laughter, like really weird, like chimp-like laughter. the closest thing we've found that it sounded like was like a gibbon sort of laughter yeah okay so and and all that happens in the span of like 27 20 30 seconds something like that it's like it's very abrupt and um and it's over um you know and so so in terms of like what was the the thing that happened to me in there that's the
Starting point is 00:27:04 most memorable. I mean, it was that. Um, but it's really hard for me to just like distinguish one event because there was so much going on in there that you just, you kind of get to the point where you have to tune stuff out. Like I heard the Ohio how while we were in there at one point. Oh, wow. Super distant. Really? Way distant. Like I was hearing something. Yeah. Like you were hearing a memory or it was it was bizarre. I mean, it was way off in the distance. We heard talking on the road one night. We had not night during the middle of the day.
Starting point is 00:27:39 We were walking out the road that sort of leads out of area X. And there was a, we got like 200 yards outside of base camp and we're out on the dirt road. And we heard what sounded like a man and a woman talking in the road behind us. But not far from us. but it was like sort of you couldn't distinguish what was being said we thought it was Bob and Kathy back at base camp so we radioed back
Starting point is 00:28:06 and they hadn't been talking at all so we started sort of trying to replicate what we had heard and they were they had heard it too that's why they were radioing us they wanted to know if we were talking on the road and so we started talking as loud as we could
Starting point is 00:28:22 and they couldn't hear they couldn't hear us and and we couldn't hear them. So it was kind of crazy. Hey, I have a question though for you. Yeah, what's up? If I have to pause for a second, is that cool? There's apparently a dead baby bunny in my backyard that my wife needs me to get out of Yeah, take care of that. I will I will talk to my listeners for a few minutes. No problem, man. Yeah, this isn't it? It is. No, this is being recorded. Okay, yeah, okay, cool. Yeah, so I guess I could I could edit it out too if I need, but you're good. All right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Just give me two seconds. I'll get it out of here. Yeah, you got it. All right. So let's take a little time out where Seth takes care of business. Talk about the one big foot sighting that Des Moines has seen. This is Des Moines, Iowa. A few years ago, down by the river.
Starting point is 00:29:24 In the snow, they saw Bigfoot tracks. Pretty crazy. I know. I'm doing this off the top of my head. Here's the thing. Also, next time Seth has a Kickstarter, you guys really need to get on that. Just because, you know, I've had two DVDs come so far.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But also there's going to be a hat. There's going to be a shirt. It's going to be really cool. And plus, Seth has been really humble so far with how he's been talking. But he's really paving the way for the next generation of really monster hunters. So put your money towards something that is pretty cool. And, I mean, just imagine. being back in the
Starting point is 00:30:07 80s and being able to put up the money for in search of and you know how much of a difference that has caused and you know like just think about like the documentary is that he makes it's going to make a huge difference
Starting point is 00:30:25 for the future you know people like well you know you think of your your top dogs in cryptoziology right now and think of like you know Jeff Muldrum and, you know, Lauren Coleman, not to say that they're super old, but they are, you know, starting to get up in years, years. But so am I.
Starting point is 00:30:44 But, you know, the next generation has got to get that cool stuff in order for them to get hung up. Hey, what's that name? Sorry about that. No problem. So, yeah. So in X, like, every single thing, there was just constant. There's stuff that, like, I don't even remember. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:04 That's crazy. happening like there was there was a there's an incident when we were walking and the smell was following us you know and it was really bizarre yeah really really really bizarre kind of incident but I mean the entire trip started off within three hours of getting in there was you know when darrell sort of started telling us that he was scoping in a uh scoping in a a big foot you know with his gun so oh that that part just That blows my mind. Like when I saw, like, it was like he's got one in his sights.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Like, that's phenomenal, you know, and like, but it's like you got to do research into these guys and like how serious they take this. Like, these guys are scientists. It's like they are hardcore, you know. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't. I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to, it would be disingenuous if it said anyone that was in there with us was a scientist. but there are definitely biologists and ecologists and all kinds of people like that in the group. The group that was in there with us was Kathy, who was a, she's a tribal relations manager for
Starting point is 00:32:18 the St.islaus National Forest. And then there's Bob St.ram was like an EMT and firefighter paramedic. And then Brian, who runs an extremely successful marketing firm. And I mean, everyone in that group. group is is someone very cool very cool yeah awesome let me look at my oh yeah so i have kind of a list here um so there was a uh big gathering just a few days ago or we could go out in pennsylvania like the bigfoot uh camping thing um do you have anything cool to share from that or anything awesome that happened maybe like really new news or
Starting point is 00:33:04 whatever. There was actually a track found on on like Saturday night that was in an interesting place. It's just very difficult to, you know, you're at a camping adventure that's entirely focused around
Starting point is 00:33:18 Bigfoot. Anything that happens, you have to take with grain of salt, obviously. But it was found by a dude I know who I know he wouldn't have faked it or anything. His little daughter,
Starting point is 00:33:28 actually, his daughter found it. And they casted it. And it was an interesting track, you know, and cast. There was a fox with no fur that was seen on the dodge across the road one night. So that's kind of cool too. But, you know, other than that, I don't think there was anything.
Starting point is 00:33:50 You know, the only thing is like we're on, they're on the ridge. Like, they're on the chestnut ridge. So. Oh, totally. Yeah. There's all kind of weird stuff out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So you forgot like your UFO stuff. Like, yeah. me another great documentary to for real chestnut beach yeah yeah yeah that's that's one of my favorites actually of ours but um so good but yeah the uh it it there was there was nothing i would you know necessarily think was was a very squatchy activity but i didn't go out late at night either so i know i i did see the eric altman said there was like a loud sort of grunt that happened outside of his cabin last night actually at the camera.
Starting point is 00:34:34 But this is, I mean, that, that event takes place. It's literally on the Chestnut Ridge. So you're sort of part of it all. And Ohio Pile area, which is where they, you know, that's the closest town to where they are is, is actually that's where the, that's where the, that's where the sighting that has talked about in like episode four. that's the that's the one where the lady like shot at the thing and it that was on her porch and it like disappeared that's that's oh wow crazy that'd be right near where where we were dude Pennsylvania is nuts like I grew up in the northeast and like Pennsylvania gets wild like people don't realize once you get out there it's it's it's what a dude yeah it's uh there's there's
Starting point is 00:35:26 some spots there in PA. The thing about PA that's a little, it's a lot like Ohio and the fact that the undergrowth can get so thick, you can't even move into it, you know. But the leaf canopy and then sort of the way the mountain is so rugged and mountainous in some spots, it almost feels like you're being engulfed by the forest. It's disturbing in a way. that's crazy man
Starting point is 00:35:57 crazy crazy stuff let's let's go over a few I got a how first off how we're doing for time were you good oh yeah yeah I'm good cool cool I can't do anything
Starting point is 00:36:09 there's like a my dog got this baby bunny it's just like chilling in my backyard I don't think it killed it and I think it's still okay so I'm not sure what to do is I'm probably just gonna leave it and hope the mom comes and gets it
Starting point is 00:36:20 sorry you hear that it's okay we'll more tomorrow let's okay so here's some questions what would you say um what is your favorite like you know how there's different uh historical bigfoot events um that have happened what do you think you're what would you see your favorite is um my favorite historical um like if we're talking pre 70s it's uh it's it's ape canyon totally that's what i was thinking yeah yeah and we've we've been um eyeing sort of
Starting point is 00:36:53 making an ape candy movie for a while now which which we um i mean we've had talks with investors and all sorts of stuff about like trying to create basically a narrative film based around the ape canadian incident because it's it's been one of my favorites for for a very long period of time it's why it's oh wow episode of on the trail of bigfoot so that's my that's definitely my favorite you've got people coming up outside of kickstarter they're like hey if you wanted to make this this would be cool. We've had talks where it was more like, you know, would you be interested in being being the money behind this?
Starting point is 00:37:30 Because this is not something where we could do that for, you know, even Kickstarter money. Our Kickstarter is great, but they, if you tried to create a good, you know, movie with like good costumes and that kind of stuff based on the api-in-ness and on what we can raise on a Kickstarter, I don't think we could do it. So, yeah, we're kind of looking toward doing something about it. ape canon. But yeah, that's that's my favorite. I mean, there's a ton that I, like here in Ohio, there's a story called the Norwalk ape, which was this, you know, and there was actually originally an entire section of episode one of on the trail of Bigfoot that talked about the Norwalk,
Starting point is 00:38:10 Norwalk ape case. And I ended up cutting it out because it just affected the pacing of that episode. It was only about two minutes, but it affected the pacing pretty, pretty drastically. totally but it was all you know in the 30s there was this rash of sightings in norwalk ohio of this this ape you know like creature this scene and and and naturally culminated and in a posse forming and going after it so as a good hunts too yeah yeah so that's that's a great one too i mean there's you know ruby creek's great there's a lot that i that i really love and then you get into the 70s and you got minerva and white horse hall and all that stuff that I love to obviously.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Oh, that's cool. Yeah, we went to the, we were out visiting my parents and, uh, um, north of Boston and I talked to him and said, they were like, what do you want to do when you're out here? Like, there's a museum up in Portland, Maine. We should check out. It's kind of cool, you know, it's got like bigfoot and stuff and they're like, okay, cool. So they, uh, we went on a road trip up to the international cryptosology museum and that was fantastic. They had a little ape canyon exhibit up there. awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I've been there a couple times. Mail from it or yeah, it's really cool place though. Very cool. Let's see. Oh, what do you, so what is your, um, let's go, girls. So, you've been
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Starting point is 00:42:03 What's a favorite book regarding subject to Bigfoot? If you have one, you had to recommend. Yeah, that's a good question. I want to go lofty and be like rain, raincoast Sasquatch or like John Green. It's it probably I mean if we're strictly on Bigfoot It's probably beast of boggy creek Lyle's book Okay
Starting point is 00:42:31 I'm not just saying right right right I really have always Lice liked his approach to that particular book That book in Lizard Man especially And and so those two have always been You know a couple of my favorites I love the way the the story is told.
Starting point is 00:42:53 And so yeah, it's probably that. I'm trying to think because there's something I'm forgetting because I've read, I have read a lot in my, you know, we have a little like mini library at SDMHQ when you come into like the waiting,
Starting point is 00:43:06 the waiting area at the office. There's like a whole, there's like two bookcases and they're full of books, you know, about Bigfoot and the paranormal and stuff like that. But those, that's a crazy library. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And he, he donates books to the, to the SDM library. So he'll just like find stuff and bring it in and put it on the shelves. That's awesome. Yeah. So, yeah, it's probably, it's probably Beast of Boggy Creek. I love Coleman's Bigfoot book, though, the true story of apes in America.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And it's very, like, basic. And I know, like, I feel like in some ways that that book might have been the inspiration for on the trail of Bigfoot, just because it really acts as like a great primer to the whole subject for someone that might not have much of a knowledge of it. So it's probably, I think it's going to be Beast of Boggy Creek though. Awesome. Let me flip that a different way too. If you're, let's say you had someone who is like, oh man, this Bigfoot stuff is pretty awesome. And so they're just getting into it.
Starting point is 00:44:05 What would you recommend them kind of start out things with? Yeah, that Coleman. Same thing. Yeah, the Coleman book. And I love, I've got, I mean, I have some green, some John Green, but I, I, weirdly haven't read like the books that sort of define him. I have read on the trail of, or I think it's on the track of Sasquatch or whatever, which is really just a collection of stories that he collected over the years that I really
Starting point is 00:44:34 love. And I think something like that could actually work more, maybe even more so than something like Coleman's book, just because I think for a lot of people that are getting, or maybe not even getting into the subject, but who know very little about Bigfoot and just have a minor interest. There's an idea that the subject revolves around like one or two sightings from the 50s and 60s.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And maybe it's just of like one creature that roams the world or whatever, you know, like Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. And the, it's talked about in the first episode of on the trail of pickfoot but like the most intriguing thing as a rational sort of person coming to the subject for the first time um something that can make you sort of to you know to take a second look at it maybe would be the fact that the sightings um there's a pattern of character behaviors that that makes it worth that second look
Starting point is 00:45:44 you know because this is all hoaxes or misidentification there shouldn't be sort of a pattern of behavior like behavior that you would attribute to something like an animal um yeah it really should just be you know you they're just people people making stuff up all the time like and but but you do have these sort of like character characteristics of these things that that keep popping back up and I think that's something like green's work could could be really interesting for someone who's just coming into it because you would be and I'm talking strictly about his case files not necessarily like his his you know the books the where he really gets into minutiaia the subject I'm I'm strictly talking about the like on the track of Sasquatch and stuff okay um so yeah anything like that or but but I mean it'd be either be that or or Coleman's bigfoot uh the true story of apes in america beast of boggy creek is great as a newbie too because it's so focused on such
Starting point is 00:46:46 a singular event, but I also feel like that might be a negative in terms of like, it might not get someone further into the subject of Bigfoot. They might just walk away from it thinking, well, that Falk Monster sounds pretty cool without ever really considering it on the larger, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:02 Bigfoot scale. Totally. That's cool. That's some good answers to that. Thanks, man. What do you think? So, what is the most amazing thing that's happened to you because of your, let's say, being involved with a big foot or like, you could even say any of your documentaries like, like, wow, I would
Starting point is 00:47:24 never experience that or met that person if I'd never done this documentary thing. Yeah, I mean, I have a moment on every shoot where I suddenly get very introspective and I, yeah, I wouldn't say a cry. I don't think I've had that experience yet, but I, I like inevitably have a moment where I find myself alone and I'm just like wow this is this is pretty great you know like when we were shooting uh on the trail of especially like being up in the Olympic peninsula up on the sound and all that I thought that was uh there were some moments there where I was like that this is something I never would have experienced if not for exactly these kooky subjects that people laugh at um yeah so you know there's that but I mean like as a single I'm trying to like
Starting point is 00:48:11 rack my brain for like a single moment that I can really point to. I mean, obviously there's like the whoop and the rock throw, but it wouldn't be anything like that. It wouldn't be anything paranormal. It would be, you know, like in terms of like the most amazing thing, it would be like a moment where I, I mean, like on the most recent trip with with Zach and Jason and Luke, like those are all dudes. Luke and I were roommates for a year and a half. I've known Luke since I was like 17 years old. and Zach and Jason and I have all been friends since we were kids. You know, we laughed more than we've laughed in probably like 20 years a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:48:49 So while we were working on Momo. So like there were times where I was like, I really needed this because I, you know, you get so sort of bogged down in the editing and or just life or whatever in your, so like it's cool to have those moments with your friends. So I probably, it could be something like that or,
Starting point is 00:49:07 I mean, on the trail of Bigfoot had numerous because I hiked with Brandon up in the mirror woods above San Francisco. I had those moments like five times where I was like, I'm so glad I get to do this. You know, like to be out here. But, you know, I'd love, I've loved getting the opportunity to interview people like Coleman and Kathy Strain.
Starting point is 00:49:35 but and this isn't in any way like a slight to them but they've done interviews so it always comes back to witnesses for me like those are the interviews that really stand out as like interviewing you know like Howie Caten or Brian Gosselin or some of those people um you know like with Lawrence Gray in the Mothamato Point Pleasant like those are the the moments to really stand out Barry Clark and invasion on Chesson Ridge like more so than than interviewing you know, some sort of paranormal investigator, author or whatever, because those guys have done that.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And I'm not really going to pull anything from them, for the most part. I'm not going to pull anything from them. They haven't already said a hundred times. Whereas getting to talk to someone like Barry Clark or Howie Caten, they don't do this sort of thing very often. They definitely don't tell their stories over and over again.
Starting point is 00:50:29 So, you know, there's, I could wax poetic about like, about all the amazing places we've shot and like getting to be with with uh you know people who are because the the craziest thing about STM and um making the movies is how invested everyone is in what we do um and how invested everyone on the crew is in it and how invested uh i mean the perfect example is the posy scene that we were talking about from momo because you had you know we put we put a call out that we wanted people to come volunteer to be part of this scene.
Starting point is 00:51:10 We were shooting down in Zora, Ohio, and it was going to be cold, and people were going to need to be down there for like six to eight hours, and we wouldn't be paying them, and it's not a union job, and you're basically going to be out there in the miserable cold with us in the scene, and, you know, we had tons of volunteers, and we ended up with a full group of guys,
Starting point is 00:51:32 like 25 guys, walking around the woods that night. Cliff got sick and was Cliff, it was sick for like seven days after the shoot because it was so cold and he was in a t-shirt. Like we put him in this short sleeve shirt and he would have to take his jacket off to shoot his scenes and then put it back on as soon as we were done shooting. He ended up getting sick. But like, oh man. But like everyone had such a great time. You know, like anytime we experience that sort of thing where you see how excited everyone is about what we're doing and being a part of it like those moments i'm i'm always really uh like excited and thankful for i guess they because because this is not it might seem like
Starting point is 00:52:15 the easiest the easy not easiest but the funnest like job you could you could have and i'm like i'm not complaining about this in any way like it is it is a dream job but it's it also gets like incredibly draining, you know, when you're like on the schedules we're on. So like when you can get like a bunch of people like that together
Starting point is 00:52:36 who are excited, it gets me excited again. Oh yeah. And you get that energy again, the creative energy you put back into the project. Because when we shot that posse scene, that was on the first weekend of filming MoMo, but we had spent an entire day on Friday filming.
Starting point is 00:52:51 And then on Saturday we were supposed to shoot all day and we only ended up getting two scenes shot, I think. got completely rained out and I was really discouraged about that because I knew that was going to set us back. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:05 that Sunday that we shot the posse scene on was cool and really encouraging. Oh, and like we had Alexander Pedicoff with us. Like he showed up. So Alexander made our champ movie with us. Oh yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:16 yeah, but we didn't get to work with Alexander on that. Like I wasn't there for the filming of champ. Right, but he was there for this. So that was really cool because like we were out filming and Alex was there. It just felt like in a way, like a reunion of STM filmmaking.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It was kind of cool. So there's those moments. Anything involved with Mothman at Point Pleasant was really like mind-blowing for me. There was one morning where I walked out and found. And this wasn't even during the shooting of the movie. It was actually during the Mothman Festival that year. But I had found the plaque where they had that they had put out, you know, where the bridge used to be, but I was the only one out there and there was this fog rolling
Starting point is 00:54:01 rolling in over the Ohio River and it was like one of those moments, those nerd out. There's a lot of those. I'm really rambling about this, but there's a lot of those moments where I'm just amazed by, you know, the situation we're in. That's awesome. That's awesome. It's very important, I think, to take a step back in life and just realize what you have, you know, be thankful for it.
Starting point is 00:54:24 That's fantastic. what would you say to let's say like the next generation growing up right now who are interested in searching for the you know bigfoot monsters fill in the blank like that would yeah no I'm really glad you said that because I had this whole talk with Cliff about some stuff over the weekend not necessarily relating to that but some other stuff like really insightful and I think the biggest thing I'd tell kids and this is going to seem This might seem hypocritical. Hopefully not.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Either way. Like, focus on the animal or the subject and not, like, celebrity and your name and, like, trying to brand yourself. And because that stuff is ruining these subjects. And I say that as someone who makes movies about these subjects. And, you know, like, I guess, like, I might be perceived. is being branded like the filmmaking guy or whatever. But like I have no problem with people being on TV and being on these shows and that
Starting point is 00:55:34 kind of stuff. And in most cases, like they, they, you know, like I'm glad they are because they're knowledgeable about the subjects or whatever. But man, like, I'm also kind of sick of just seeing people getting into euphology or the paranormal or Bigfoot solely because they want to get on the next like paranormal. normal TV show or Bigfoot TV show or whatever and it just kind of gets it kind of gets discouraging honestly. I've seen it happen because you see it happen with people you like and respect and they change. They change as soon as they're out of these shows like they've got this.
Starting point is 00:56:13 They've got some sort of image they had to protect or whatever. And I get it. Like I totally get it. And I'm friends with a lot of people that have been on these shows and we've been offered, you know, to be on these shows. And I will probably at some point end up on some sort of show as a talking head or something. So I get it and I have no issues with it. I have an issue with getting into the subjects because you think you can because that's your motivation. Like you want to do that. I just want to be the next like big personality in the field.
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Starting point is 00:59:13 Focus on the animal. Like not your entertainment value that you see yourself having. Yeah, do it because you love it. That's awesome. Very, very cool. I remember you talking a while about the next documentary coming up is going to be on the bell witch. Is that right? It's not the next.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Or down the road sometimes. So yeah, yeah. What it is is 20, so 2019 is on the trail of Bigfoot and terror in the skies and Momo. And then 2020 is, we'll start off with the Mothman legacy, which is a direct sequel. to the moth made up Point Pleasant and then the mark of the bellwitch and then on the trail of UFOs and more than likely
Starting point is 01:00:04 on the trail of UFOs is going to be sort of a late 2020 release but we'll see we'll see if it's late 2020 or early 2020 I just don't know yet how it's coming out in that year and then right now we're actually talking about
Starting point is 01:00:20 scaling back a little bit the release schedule starting in 2021 and putting more focus into each individual title. But, you know, I mean, we'll have to see how everything plays out because we never know. We don't even know if we're going to be here in 2020. Like, just to be frankly true. Like as an independent, you never know. Yeah, as an independent, you never know what's going to happen from year to year.
Starting point is 01:00:45 So we have plans in place, obviously, but we are not, we're not the travel channel and we don't have. Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. to throw up stuff. Dude, man, the Bellwitch one, that's going to be crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I've seen a few things on that. That could get pretty interesting, dude. That's going to be definitely a different, you know, film than most people are used to. But there's some interesting subject matter, dude. Yeah, it'll be, it'll definitely be a, it'll be a departure from what we've done prior to it because of the fact that if nothing else, not even, I mean, discounting the fact that it's like supernatural and all that. But if you, it's, it's also the fact that it's a historical story. You know, it's an old, it's a story where we don't really have witnesses and things like
Starting point is 01:01:35 that left. So, sure. If nothing else, it'll be different because of that. So, uh, looking forward into the UFO thing, were you thinking maybe a little out west strip to Skinwocker Ranch or something? We start. We'll see. Yeah, we start filming on, I'm not going to give the exact days, but I'll be heading to, like, Vegas and Utah and Arizona.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Oh, wow. Actually, in the next like four weeks, I'll be out there. Oh, geez. And that'll be, you know, like, I loved the experience of making it on the trail of Bigfoot. I did not love the experience of being sort of on camera on the trail of Bigfoot. It just felt weird to me. So I will be on camera somewhat in on the trail of UFOs, but I'm not, I'm not sort of the primary character. I'm going to put Shannon Legrow as like our, sort of our lead in that.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Her and I have been friends now for like five years. And I've always wanted to get, you know, something going where she could be, where she could step in front of the camera. So I think that'll be, that'll be where she sort of finds her places in the front of the camera on the trail of UFOs. Yeah. Now, Shannon has some amazing content. I'm trying to set up a podcast with here in the future. We've been chatting a little bit back and forth, trying to set something up. But no, she's great, man. She's a great host and content creator, definitely.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Man, this has been, this has been fantastic. I just want to really thank you taking the time out of your busy day. and, you know, talking to my listeners about stuff that all your documentaries and some new stuff about Momo and, um, can you, um, so you've got your, your stuff so many different places, you know, like TV, media and Amazon and iTunes and whatever. Like, what would you say if someone wanted to check out your stuff? Um, what's the best way for them to do that, but also to support you at the same time? Yeah. I mean, if you wanted to support us, the best way to support us is to, like, buy the DVDs through the website or, you know, Vimeo, we get 100% of, or 90% of what we make on Vimeo, which is nice.
Starting point is 01:04:01 We don't sell much on there, but that's a great way. That's a great way to support us. Amazon, I mean, you know, people are going to gravitate to Amazon because, like, most of our stuff's free on Amazon Prime. We get very little from Amazon Prime. and Amazon continues to sort of screw content creators. I agree with that, too. Yeah, it's getting worse and worse. They actually just changed all the payout stuff again,
Starting point is 01:04:25 which we're waiting to see how bad that's going to hit us. But yeah, like we're all over the place, iTunes and Google Play and, you know, and obviously that's not all our movies. The bulk of our movies are available on Amazon, Mimeo on Demiol and Demiore. And the newer ones are appearing on Viti space. which is run by my buddy Elizabeth Saint. So yeah, if you're,
Starting point is 01:04:52 if you're looking to support us, the DVDs are great. And you get like the bonus content, which is usually like some sort of making a feature where you can see us running around like idiots with cameras. But if you want the good stuff, you got to get on that Kickstarter guys because I've got a small town monster's hat coming.
Starting point is 01:05:10 That's going to be legit. Yeah, those are going to be great. We actually have them. they're they're waiting to be sent. As soon as as soon as MoMo stuff is done that all the like final batch of Kickstarter rewards go out. So it's it's been such an insane year because of the fact that we had so many backers in the campaign.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Like it seems I think it was like 450 backers or something, which is crazy for us. So it's been it's been a little more not delayed, but it's been staggering the rewards more than we usually have to, just because you're still waiting on, like, some of the backers to send in their info and stuff so we can get their t-shirt sizes. Oh, yeah, yeah, totally. So, yeah, but there's,
Starting point is 01:05:53 there were so many rewards in this year's campaign. It's insane. There's a lot, dude. Next year's going to be great, man. We have, we have a, yeah, we have a five-year retrospective book, like a coffee table book being done. It's mostly going to be written by Mark Mattsky,
Starting point is 01:06:10 and then it's going to have, like, interviews with all of us, and all this like behind the scenes photos and stuff like that so it's going to be fantastic next next year's going to be awesome because that's the official like five-year anniversary is okay very cool very cool um also you guys have the monsteropolis uh podcast correct yes yeah we missed two weeks in a row which is our first time to miss anything just because of the shooting of momo and then mark had a family issue he had to a chant two last week so we We missed two weeks in a row, but we start up, I think, Thursday of this week, and we're going to jump in this more conspiracy stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Very cool. Very cool. Yeah, I was driving Uber listening to the Black helicopter episode and just the way you were, I was like, oh, boy. I was not expecting the helicopter to go that way, but it was very, very interesting. Yeah. Were you listening to that while driving Uber over? over the speakers? Oh, no, sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:13 So what I do is, like, when I'm actually driving customers, I just put on Apple music or whatever. But, like, when I'm just trying to find someone, I'll listen to podcasts. Because if you were playing that after picking up the customer, that'd be amazing. Then be a total five-star for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:31 No, I want to get one of those Bigfoot air fresheners so I can start to have conversations about Bigfoot with customers. and yeah yeah that would be pretty cool but um cool anything else you would you would like to maybe uh send like a plug for listeners or you know anything you just yeah pass on um see terror in the skies comes out on totally on friday and uh i'm proud of it's like one of uh it's one of the more set breedlovingian uh movies that we've done so it's kind of schmaltzy in that way but um we're We're really proud of that one. It looks,
Starting point is 01:08:10 it looks fantastic. Like cinema. Oh, it really does. Yeah. And so we're really, really excited to see how audience is respond to it. The story at the beginning with, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:21 the little kid and it kind of has a Spielberg feel to it. That's fantastic. And then I just, I love how you guys focus on Midwest towns, like the older Midwest towns. Very cool. Yeah. Cool living out here in Iowa.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I can really appreciate that. Awesome. But dude, thanks again for for hopping on with us for a few minutes tonight. And yeah, guys, go check out Seth's stuff and have a great night, Seth. Sure. Thanks for having me. Yeah, man. See you.
Starting point is 01:08:50 All right. Bye. All right. Now, that was actually a really solid episode. And it's fun to remember as I was listening to it the first time I was really able to talk to Seth. It was a cool time. Also, pretty solid stuff from Area X. If you want to read more amazing things about Area X,
Starting point is 01:09:13 you can get the great book, Valley of the Apes by Michael Mays. That goes a little bit into what Seth experienced when they were there filming. But the book is just incredible. It should be on your bookshelves already. Again, thank you for listening. Don't miss Friday's episode. Yeah, you won't be expecting it. You really won't.
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