Bigfoot Society - "Everyone around here sees the Villanous Gate"

Episode Date: September 15, 2023

In the Enchanted Circle of New Mexico is a 12 foot creature called the “Villanous Gate”.Is this a Skinwalker, a Dogman or something else entirely?John shares his story of what he encountered in Taos Canyon one day and the story unfolds with many more high strangeness events unfolding.Aliens, UFO, Bigfoot and that’s just the beginning.Don’t miss this episode of Bigfoot Society.Resources: WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzECall the Bigfoot Society BIGFOOT ENCOUNTER hotline! Have you seen a Sasquatch and would like to get what happened “off your chest” but don’t have time for an interview? NOW YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR TIME AND SHARE IT WITH THE WORLD! Share it here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsocietyTo unlock more bonus content and much more, become a supporting member of Bigfoot Society by joining the Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyBecome a Youtube Channel member here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinSupport Bigfoot Society one time by buying me a coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety To pick up a Bigfoot Society shirt, stickers and more, check out our merch by heading on over to https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietySend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165 Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!”If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! —— Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR —— My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card. https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsocietyIf you want an amazing website like Bigfoot Society has that is extremely easy to set up and connects to your podcast in an incredible way then check out Podpage. https://www.podpage.com/?via=jeremiah (Use this affiliate link and you help out Bigfoot Society)

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And Bigfoot Society, I've taken far too much of your time so far. So let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to a gentleman who contacted me over the internet. His name is John. And he has a very interesting encounter story. I think we're just going to let him kind of unveil that because it sounds very interesting. John, how are you doing tonight?

I'm doing fantastic. How about yourself? I'm doing great. It's been a long time coming and chatting with you. We've been working on it for a while, but I'm excited to chat with you about this. Yeah, indeed, indeed. Well, let me take the picture for everyone.

So this happened in Tows Canyon. Tos Canyon is a 21-mile stretch of switchbacks and a very dark cannon between Angel Fire and Tos. If you were to look at Tos or Angel Fire, excuse me, we kind of shit. It's kind of like a big old fishbowl, but made out of mountains. We have a lot of, we have wild turkey. we have bear Mount Lang I mean

you know we have even a wild turkeys They're as big as Like a kitchen Tashcan I mean they're huge We have elk And you know

Mule deer And all kinds of stuff Like that right around But anyways I've been here For about Let's say a year and a half And

Like my first week here After coming I moved up here from Austin, relocated. And the very first week that I was here, we had a, I call them kids, a couple of my younger cooks or whatnot, they were telling me about a creature that is called the villainous gate.

And I've never heard of this creature before. She's like, yeah, shut up. So, you know, I'm out there on the, on my balcony, and I'm, you know, watching the bears go by or whatnot. and I see this just black creature staring at me from across the meadows or whatnot. I'm like, what do you mean?

You know, we're talking about that. We're talking about dog man. I'd always been interested in Bigfoot. So she's like, no, it's not Bigfoot. It's definitely not a dog man. And then one of her current roommate, Lucas, she's like, Now, it's definitely not a dog man.

I mean, I've got a dog man up here where we are. The elevation here is we advertise it at 8,600 feet. Where Lucas lives, he lives at about 11,000 feet. And so the backside of his parents' property with that, you can clearly see Colorado from here. I mean, we're just like a stone throwaway. So over there, it's like, it's barely any touch soil. I mean, it's like raw and brand new.

So he was very certain about his sighting there. After I was here for about, I'd say about a month, I'm driving away from work. And, you know, it's a little winding road. you're kind of cutting through the golf course to get out of here. And I'm seeing something out of the corner of my eye. And it's a, and it was tall, and it was black. And it had like an amber looking eyeball.

And, okay, hold on. Do you know those, you know, the traffic signs, you know, with a pedestrian crossing or whatnot? Absolutely. Okay. All right. So if you could imagine that sticker, that predestrian that's in that sign,

if he were to come off of that sign, and he just has one dimension. So there's no, it's just kind of like a flat man. So there's no girth to him. Okay. Anyway, so there's, I'm driving down the canyon and it's very dark. What we like to do here, what I found out is that usually you want to get, you want to trail someone to kind of share the light. Because you can, you can hit just about anything going through there. So it's already, I guess this happened about, maybe about two months ago,

So we have All the The deer are having little babies running around And so we're driving through the can and I'm just naturally cautious anyways So we're sharing the light I'm already I'm zipping through and I'm going faster than I should I think the speed limit is like 40 miles per hour or whatever

We're both hauling ass maybe about 50 or 60 going through there And we pass up a little family of some deer and so usually like the females they all hang out together and then the books all hang out together. And so this one just happened to be a whole bunch of females and their little babies. So we're coming through the canyon. And I'm a little bit closer to him than I should be. And all of a sudden, the gentleman in front of me swerves real quick. And I'm thinking, okay, we're going to be.

to run up on some deer or whatever. So I'm following his swerve. I might be maybe two car links behind him. So pretty close. Anyway, so coming through, he makes this swerve, and then I'm looking to my right just to see if I have a, I can already see the left side. Left side of the canyon.

It's when all the snow runs off, there's like a nice little stream and all that top of stuff on that left side. On the right side, it's just woods and stone rocks and trees. Well, after he takes that swerve, and the guys that were doing construction in the canyon, so you have like a brand new paint on the road, brand new, you know, for your traffic lanes or whatnot. So he squirt.

I follow him and then as I look up or as I'm looking at the road or whatever I see this black figure with one foot on that on that traffic

the white line or whatnot and I'm like what the heck is this but I'm staring at him he's sitting there a guy in front of me he slammed on his brakes I'm slam it online and

from his oh gosh he looks like okay that same stick guy that's on the traffic signal side or whatever but shaped like a nubis

and it's about 12 feet tall easily his arms went all the way down to what I would say with these ankles and the hands it looks like

maybe I could didn't really say if they're fingers or if they're claws, but it was just like one continuous, uh, can't, I guess you could say. Um,

one dimensional and with that big old, that same old amber high that I saw before. And the guy, uh, we both stopped so that we, we should try out on the brakes. We both stopped maybe about another 50, 50 yards ahead of this guy.

And we, We're jumping out of the car, and the first thing that we're asking, did you just see what I just saw? Did you see that? And it was just a dangerous thing. And it was, um, I know sometimes people give descriptions of, of like the predator or like,

or maybe how a big foot can clope or something like that. But this creature was, uh, was like, um, I guess what I describe it to the very next day as a, as like black whole black. Like the darkest black that you could imagine seeing, you could see the outline. And it was almost as if you could see through the blackness.

If that makes any sense. So it was just straight black. You couldn't, I couldn't distinguish between like a chest. and a waste or anything like that, it was just, just one, there was no separation that I could see, that I could see. The next day, immediately I'm coming through the canyon. I called my son back in Austin, and I was telling him about it right away. And then the very next day, I'm coming to work.

Haley Haley is here Lucas is here and Jameson is here and these kids they see this creature all the time but anyways I'm telling my story

because I was really excited about it to some of the servers here and before I can even get to the part where I'm describing this creature Jamo Jameson walks through the door and he finishes my description to a T. To a T.

And then we really started going nuts then. It was like he was right there with me. So I don't know. I've never heard of the term filling this gate. I heard about Skinwalkers. Like I say, I'm very curious as about Bigfoot. As a matter of fact, we had a, there's a Bigfoot siding in Red River,

which is about 30 minutes away from Angel Fire. And I think that was just last year, last year of the year before. So the guys up here is moving around. But what they tell me about this filling this gate is that, because we're in what you call the enchanted circle. So it might stand for about, let's say, a hundred round miles, you know, in this circle, whatever. and what I'm told is that this villain is gay

we don't know what it is but and I'm assuming it's a male but the creature just he just does a loop in this enchanted circle just just walks around doing a loop and that's really really I can tell you about that like I say I wish I could

I wish I could say that the creature had had shoes where there was no shoes. It was like just a white stick figure. And I could only see like one side of his face that was revealed to me. Didn't see any teeth.

Didn't see any clothing. It was just a black entity. That's all I can tell you. That's really interesting. Please continue. Yeah. hold on this guy's trying to talk in good glass. What's that?

What's that? Okay. If you, if you like, if you want to reach out again, like, perhaps this time tomorrow, James,

he'll be working here. And he'd be happy to, to share with you as well. Yeah, I will definitely, I'll definitely, uh, It's, man, this is wild.

I have a few questions for you, as you can imagine. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so, man, where to start? So you are in Texas, correct? No, I'm in Angel Fire, New Mexico. All right, thank you for that clarification. Perfect.

So Angel Fire, New Mexico. It's an area called the Enchanted Circle, 100 miles, round circle and do you know how far back the sightings of this creature go? Jameson his

he was pretty much born and raised here and he's I want to say he's 18 or 19 now and he's been seeing him since since he's his youth you know four and five years since he was four or five years old.

So as far as the history of this creature, I couldn't tell you that. I couldn't tell you that. Sure. You know, but it's not, I mean, it's not like the guy, I mean, it's the damnedest thing. I mean, he just sits around and he walks around a lot. But the kids, I mean, they see him all the time.

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Or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a recesses. I've seen them three times. But the kids, I mean, it's like every other day or whatever, they've got a story that they've seen them the night before. Well, they're seeing them in the morning. Have you ever heard of anyone outside the restaurant having sightings of this creature? Like outside of your group that's in the restaurant?

Yes and no. So when I moved here, I had a Doberman that happened. have he had developed cancer he's about 13 he's going on 14 years old and um but like in often you know we would go out for you know midnight hikes and stuff like that and we called it getting spookies um so we're doing that here and i ran into a um to a gentleman by the name of Joseph who's a native american and it was like hey what are you doing you know i've got a I've got a machete and, you know, a nice little flash slide or whatever because, I mean, it was a couple nights ago. We were stalked by a mountain mountain line or whatnot.

So he's asking me what we're doing. I'm like, yeah, we're just going outside. We're just going to get spooky around here. And he was like, he was like, sir, I would highly, highly recommend that you do not do that, that you don't, do you try to stay inside your house? after 9 o'clock. I was like, why? He was like, well, because not just

Bear, not just Cougar, he said there are things out here. There are things out here. And it really took me back or whatever, but it's like, yeah. He's like, there's a, you know, if you've heard of skin walkers and that type

of stuff and, you know, and whatever you can do, whatever you imagine, they're out of here. And they kind of dawned on me because I used to, like where I work, we close that at night. Just about every store around in the Angerfire closes at nine. And I was like, what the heck is going on with us? And then it kind of, when he brought that to my attention, it kind of makes sense. It's like, ooh, these folks are going home and getting comfortable, you know, where it's safe.

and so it kind of made me think that that's why the city or the village Banja part closes that at 9 10, like clockwork. I mean, it's like it's just like it shuts down. And I think the population, just the general population here might be under 700 people. So when we're not busy during the season, you know, for bicycle season or sea season or whatever, it's pretty much a gross out. And, you know, the wildlife here is very, they're very use to humans.

You know, we had a, we had a, five hundred pound bear. That was just walking in the diner in just the other day. So, you know, but, but yeah, I had, there's a, where I live in Tows, there's a gentleman that goes by the name of E.T. Nicknamed for extraterrestrial or whatnot.

And he's got amazing stories about Bigfoot, not Dog Man, but Bigfoot. So, you know, here is pretty, it's just pretty common. I mean, if you mention Bigfoot here, no one's kind of got a bat an eye or even

or even a laugh about it. I mean, they take it pretty serious here. So you've got Bigfoot in the same area, whatever this villainous gate creature is. And personally, well, first off, has anyone ever captured any photos or videos or any evidence of this thing at all yet? I believe Jameson has

I believe so Really? Yeah I believe so But I know we also we'd also Joked about thinking hey we just need to go out there instead of trapping You just see we just this thing But I think I think Jameson does I think so

Personally Do you think that you're dealing with a skinwalker or some kind of dog man? I'd say more inclined on the level of a skin walker. Not a dog man for sure. And I asked that because of the time when you brought up a 12 foot tall anubis type features. And that's sometimes you hear that thrown around

when people talk about dog man. So that's the main reason why I brought that up. But, um, yeah, I couldn't. I mean, even with that, it was like, there was no, uh, oh my gosh, I really can't describe, I can't articulate what I saw because, I mean, I didn't see, I saw the shape of it, that line, but as far as features like the, like the muzzle or, you know, you kind of teeth or anything like that. Nope.

Just solid black. Just solid black. The only way that I could make out his hands is because, you know, how you know, how you're walking and you're, you know, you're dragging your, you're flating your arms back and forth. Well, okay, that's the only reason why I can make out that hand because it just happened to be. away from that, the blackness of the body, if that makes any sense. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, and the favors were, it wasn't a close hand, it was an open hand. And I saw that.

When you saw the creature, and maybe even from what you've heard from your coworkers, are there certain emotions that people will feel associated with seeing the creature, or is it different people react in different ways? you know I would say that people react differently in different ways

I mean and the kids here they're so I mean they're so used to seeing the creature that it's just it's just like you and I talking

like it's just like a like it's just another day we went from the female in Jiglish she went from being a son and she actually moved here from a

Wisconsin but uh she went from being astonished and scared to now is just just common you know

I'm just gonna go out there on my porch or whatever and smoke a cigarette and if he comes by he comes by you know not a big deal so

how close is the creature getting to people's houses do you think probably within 15 feet or less wow yeah easily this is this this is wild um i'm not sure what to think about this john if you weren't kidding when

this is uh this is a wild one it feels like man i'm sure there's people listening to this from there's got to be people listening to this podcast from that area that have also seen this creature and if they would reach out uh bigfoot society at gmail dot com to let me know if they've have seen this and maybe they know the creature by other names, that would be incredible. Sure. I mean, I'm in jail, I'm, I mean, I'm sitting here with deuce bumps a whole time that we're talking. And again, I just, I wish that I had the right words to articulate what I saw. But, you know, it's real.

And there's several folks found here that could, that could test to the story. and share their verse of it as well. Wow. Yeah. It's just, it's just damn insane. You know, and when I,

when I first saw it, you know, I'm thinking, okay, maybe it's just, you know, maybe it's just a big buck or something like that

that's in my peripheral vision or whatnot. It don't worry about it too much. And then it was like, a couple nights later, saw the, the same thing again, except this.

time I stopped and just marbled at it. And, uh, you know, then I was like, uh, Chuck's, I don't want to stare, stare too much or whatever, so I kept on going. But, uh, so that's, that's twice. And then that cannon really made the, just really, just met me without any kind of question whatsoever. Mm. Mm.

And then for the, for the, uh, the gentleman that was driving the four runner. ahead of me for us both to stop and pretty much say the exact same thing. Did you see what I just saw? Did you see it? Did you see it? And so, yeah. But by the time we, you know, turn around, look back in that direction, whatever, I mean, the decreasing was gone.

And so I don't know if it went back into the woods, from the right side where it was. or did it go on the left side to where the little stream and the little river is? I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you that. Did you get, is the gentleman that also saw the creature that one time? Is that someone you still keep in touch with or is it just happened and then you've never seen the gentleman again? No, it was just a random coincidence.

Yeah, it was just random. Yeah, and I don't know. I mean, it's a trying to think. Now, it's just random. And I don't know. And I'm trying to think if I even see the gentleman's

vehicle in the angel fire. But I really don't recall that either. It was one of those, you can't miss it. It was that, you know, that hot, super hot orange that they got on those four runners nowadays. Sure. So, yeah.

So it's a, I've definitely noticed. if he was here. But, yeah, that's where we're at. Have you ever talked to the owner of the restaurant to see if the owner has had any sightings of this, of the creature? The owner lives in Dallas.

Oh, sure. Yeah, and, but wherever he comes down or whatever, I mean, I'll joke about Bigfoot or whatever, but he doesn't say anything, one thing, or another. They just laugh right with me. But,

um, oh, well, I'm going to say, uh, but the, the angel fire from what I was told, was,

um, was built on, on, on, on an Indian burial ground. Um, so that could be something, that could have something to do with it.

Uh, I mean, I know, uh, sure. I, I've seen a I've seen a young woman

probably maybe 5-2 and I'll be hot dog if she wasn't going to just turn into a werewolf right in front of my eyes in the middle of a bar and that's a totally another story in itself so again

there are this is the enchanted circle and there's a saying here too that the Enchance of circle will either accept you or it'll spit you out. And I mean, I've had, I've invited employees or friends from Austin, Texas to come up here and work. And some of them hadn't even made it a week before this enchanted circle kicks them out because it just doesn't accept them. So as far as the spiritual nature, I mean, really inclined to believe that that that creature is something spiritual.

It's a spiritual institute is what I would think. It is. Wow. Yeah. So you've got the villainous gate. You've got people almost turning into wolves. You kind of mentioned dog man a little bit earlier. Do you have dog man stuff going on in that area too?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Lucas, yeah, he has dogman sightings up there. And again, but he's on a higher elevation too. And it's like if you picture Angel Flower as a, as like a fishbowl, he's on the back side of that fishbowl. So he's got, I mean, again, you can see from Colorado from here, and that's just nothing but nature. Yeah, nothing. But as far as the eye can see, you just will be with us. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors.

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This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recess. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to height and taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. And I think we have some fires last. year and a lot of the area that were that got all burned up or whatnot a lot of that the animals are starting to migrate this way and so I'm wondering if that has something to do with it too I mean it's like even the frequency of just bears alone it's like really exploded just lately and then for us it's elk season.

So, you know, I don't, so I don't know, you know, if there's just more of a funded food source for a mouth.

The creature that I saw, I don't, I don't know if it's eaten anything, but I can imagine a good, big foot in a dog band with, to live out here very well. Absolutely.

And that's something else that has, has come up in passing a few times in this interview is, it sounds like there's some pretty solid Bigfoot activity in that area of the Enchanted Circle as well. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think so.

And again, it's not, if you're in the city of the buildings of tiles and you mention anything about aliens or UFO or whatever, again, no one will bat an eye. They're like, yep, mm-hmm, just saw one just the other day. Uh-huh, sure it is. If you mentioned Bigfoot, yep, you can have, they'll have a conversation with you. All about it. Yeah. I've never ran any someone or mentioned it

or heard the topic come up to where anyone was ridiculed here. Wow. I know. No. It's a very. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Let's talk about it. Yeah. Yeah. Do you do you remember any particular Bigfoot stories that you've heard from that area

that you found interesting? Well, the one that sticks to my mind was like the most, I guess, if I've been here a year and a half, so maybe a little under two years ago, I think that's where that signing was in Red River. And so Red River, okay, so the Encanic Circle, that's Antifire, Red River, Questa and Taos. That makes up that ring. From Taos, and there's a, okay, so in Taos, there's a, okay, so in Taos, there's a,

an Indian Pueblo, but on the backside of that Pueblo, there's like Wheeler Peak and some other very tall mountains back there, but white man can't go on it, because it's on the Pueblo, along to the tribe. But on that, on that backside over there, you can take a trail from Tos to Red River and just, you know, you can bike it, walk it, whatever you want to do. But that's where the, the Bigfoot is, seen that has been seen on that backside.

And I think when he was, from what the report said, when he was in in Red River, I think he was just pretty much as being a nuisance, really. You know, just rummaging around

or whatnot. So it could have been a younger one, you know, maybe a juvenile or something. But that's about it on that. As far as, when Lucas would mention

the dog man that he believes he's in California. at his home or whatnot, he just describes the animal as just, just scratching on his walls and and scratched it on the windows, that type of thing. But again, more like a nuisance. You know, this stuff is like, you just start to kiss me off. I can't sleep. You know, I can't sleep. You know, I'm doing all this stuff at two o'clock in the morning. I'm trying to go to bed.

So, yeah, so that's all I know about that. I don't... Yeah, it's probably cool at first, but then it gets pretty annoying, I would guess. Yeah, I think so, too. I mean, but, but yeah, it's, I mean, it's different and special here. It's a unique place, I would say. It really sounds like it. Can you go into detail or anything at all about?

You mentioned there are some UFOs in alien activity in the Enchanted Circle as well? Oh, yeah. The guy, okay, so where I live, E.G. He works, he does construction at that property. First day, okay, and I have like a little, a green little alien man outside of my front door. And just the first day that I met him, he was on. hey, my name's E.T. I was like, okay, that's cool.

It's like, yeah, it's short for extraterrestrial because, you know, I've been abducted before. I was like, what? It's like, yeah. And I also have a, I have a pit bull, and the dog was out there who was kind of skittish behind it. And it was like, yeah, so that's why I'm a little jumpy because I've been abducted before.

And, you know, I've also been, you know, attacked by pit bulls or whatever. Yours is just, you just, you're just triggering those memories for me. yeah so it's um it's a it's a it's called the house retirement village half there's 12 units that are assisted living and then the other units are just for anybody else but there are the older league i mean they talk about them all the time and we have like a little clearing because um where where Angel Fire is real mountainous over there in Tiles

we're at the edge of the Rocky Mountains but there's a there's fast mesas out there so I mean you can you know you can see different galaxies from out there and there's very little light that you interfere with that type of thing

but yeah they're shooting over there all the time I mean just going back and forth and I think I think New Mexico is one of those sleeper states you know we hear about the area

51 and we hear about the mountains up there in Colorado but I think New Mexico in my opinion is one of those sleeper states that stays under the radar of national news to where a lot of this for the UFOs and the aliens

you know can develop and thrive here without much attention to being drawn to it. Yeah, you can, jolly. It's, like I say,

it's not, nothing mysterious. Nothing mysterious. It's like, it's just like a, it's like, it's like it's common culture. And the thing that gets me is,

is that you're saying that in these three towns that are in this enchanted circle, like everyone, is like, yep, it's cool. It happens. I've seen it. My mom's seen it. My kid has seen it.

And it's like not a big deal. Not a big deal at all. Not a big deal at all. Not a big deal at all. You know, if you drive, going through town or whatever, you'll find, you know, one of the hottest selling products out of here

is that the traffic sign with the cow being transported by, by UFO, you know, it's locked in its little tractor beams, whatever. I mean, that's, that's everywhere. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it's, yeah, people make no bones about it. No bones about it all. John, do you find that a little weird, or is it just you're used to it now? Everyone in their front yard has these, like, cows getting abducted signs, you're saying? They're all over the place. I mean, it's very common. It's very common. Wow.

What was your question again? No, that's, I just wanted your quick opinion on that. If you had to, you know, thinking about the enchanted circle in general, if you had to pin it down to one reason why all this stuff is going on inside the circle, what would you say? I say because of the spiritual nature behind our Native Americans. That's what I would say. You know, we've got, there is, I want to say there's 14 or 17 of Pueblo's just in New Mexico alone.

And everything is really... You know, it was really, really admired and sacred, if that makes any sense. You know, there's a lot of, I'll say more than anything. I'd say the spiritual spirituality of our Native Americans, I would say. It's absolutely fascinating. I can't believe I've never heard of this area before. That's just wild. Listeners, if you know stuff about the Enchanted Circle, please reach out.

it's just it blows my mind um man yeah if you uh if you ever make it down this way or care to whatever i mean we've got some nice hotel like put you up in a uh in a hotel or you could go up in there hang out and towels or whatnot and um when i say pick some folks rain you know it's not uh yeah it's not hard to do it's not hard to do i can probably i can probably i can probably imagine a few listeners are like that place sounds pretty cool because it sounds like everything's there in this 100 mile circle is it a good idea for people to visit that area or is it kind of like they don't really like visitors coming in and people just do their things or no it's a good place to visit i mean we're uh we uh we uh we treat ourselves or we model ourselves as a as a family resort

So no, yeah, you wanted them to visit and see the sites or whatnot. I mean, it's a, I mean, it's just the matrix everywhere. And it's like there's so much, like, granite in the rocks and turquoise and onyx. And, I mean, it just, it really seems like the land is alive, if that makes sense. Like, it's just alive. Absolutely. I know that that makes that makes total total sense. A really left field question. Have you ever had any interactions with Bigfoot or heard anything from other states besides where you're at now?

Okay, I didn't want I didn't want to like out that state because of what we said, but I was kind of leading you into it. Yeah, yeah, Oklahoma for sure. Okay, anything you can share from that? Yeah, I mean, I have not seen one in Oklahoma, but we had a, I grew up in more Oklahoma, and at the time, my graduating class was, I think we had over 1,200 kids. So we had, there was like five lakes around. Our favorite lake was Draper late. so we'd go out there and hang out and, you know, do what kids do or whatever.

But the guy, a buddy of mine, his dad owns some horse body stables out there and whatnot. And his name was Wade. And he was always coming to us with stories about a big foot down there that's always messing around the horses. Mess around the horses and move himself around. I'll put the saddle over here and then when I come back, Salon's over there. And, but he was, he was also Native American. And his father used to talk about him,

and talk to us about him all the time. So, and this was, this would be between Oklahoma City and Norman, kind of like right there out in the middle. Okay, gotcha. My mom used to go to the Arbuckle Wilderness, and she tore up and down. Like in, I want to say, what, maybe six is when I graduated to high school. Maybe about 1983, she used to go a lot, and she could have swore she saw in O'Barre.

But me, myself, I have not. Gotcha. I wouldn't be surprised. I've heard things around the Arbuckle Wilderness a few times. so that that wouldn't be surprising to me at all. I mean, that state is such a weird state. And southeast Oklahoma, of course, you know, is just incredibly intense. Yeah.

You know, I think, oh, gosh. Yeah, I'm trying to think worlds. I know we see hear about him in Paul's Valley as well. and then I'm trying to think there was also someplace north like maybe

Ada A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-O-Wwall Oh, absolutely. A-Hol-that is a big area, yeah, absolutely, Ada. Yeah, and then but you know I probably think

I mean, I'm always standing the forest deep looking for them But it's almost like here in Angelfire, if there was one in front of you, you might not even be able to see it. You know? So, I mean, this, um, is there the woods kick. I don't know. Not so much super, super thick, but they are kind of dense, you know, and it's like.

Interesting. You know, I get you really believe that, like now, instead of scanning eye level, I try to scan, you know, feeling up or something like that. I think if I live there, I would definitely have a camera on my car, a dash cam for sure. It sounds like you're bound to run across something if you're just driving around. So maybe get one of those. I like my mountain bike a lot. I usually have a have my GoPro mountain bike.

to it whenever I'm out of whatnot. So I try. Not as consistent as I like to do or whatnot, but chances are like you just said, hang out here long enough. You've got to run into something. Oh, absolutely.

It sounds like it's definitely going to happen. John, thank you so much for reaching out to me and for chatting about all the stuff that you've guys got going on in the enchanted circle. It's incredible. and I really appreciate you sharing some stuff. If you could wait, hang out for a few seconds afterwards, but thank you so much for coming on, man.

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