Bigfoot Society - Face to Face by Mt. Hood! | Oregon

Episode Date: January 5, 2025

This is an unlocked Patreon episode originally released 4/2/24.Tod Samples and Doug Chez from Episode 269 share what they've been up to with Bigfoot research specifically in the Bluff Creek area and about Doug's Class A encounter in the Mt. Hood area of Oregon. What Doug saw is incredibly interesting and makes for an episode you won't want to miss!Resources:Tod and Doug's Youtube Channel (Bigfoot Wilderness Research): https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootWildernessResearch/videos🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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They were Bigfoot researchers out there on the west coast of the U.S. But how are we doing tonight, guys? Very good, very good. Yeah, it's been a good. night. It's supposed to rain tomorrow, but overall it's been great. Perfect. I'm excited to talk to you. I've heard a little bit about what you guys have been up to, but I'm going to go ahead and give the floor right over to you guys. Feel free to share what kind of things you've been up to in the last time since we talked. We had a chance to go up to a squash fest back in January.

We were to talk to Matt Cliff Bergman. But before we, we had a chance to go up to Squatch Fest back in January. We were to talk to we went the day before Squatfest, we had gone squatchin in Oregon. And that was a pretty good. We had a siding, a Class A siding. Doug and Kerry, actually, I actually didn't see it, but I was there. Yeah. And during the whole course of the summer, we have been going up into the Bluff Creek area. There's also another area east of Orleans we've been going into and had some interesting experiences. after our original discussion with you about the snow prints and then later having discussions with Cliff. And he really recommended we start casting prints. So we've been doing that.

And we've gotten some really nice prints. We're up to six now. We tried one method where you use the spray foam. It's not real effective, but plaster of Paris we've been using. And so interestingly, several of these prints are in the same area where we found those snow print. So we know we're on to something in that area. We've had broken branches off trees. We've had tree knocks in the area. We even found what looked like a cave, went back two weeks later, and found that a tree had been broken and the entrance was covered, even though no humans had been

there since we were last there. That was back in November. It's been really good. We're Just definitely liking the fact that we seem to be in a really hot spot right now. We also got to talk with Tate during the summer, so that was nice. And Jonathan Easley, they came and talked with us when we were at Laos camp in this last summer. So that was fun too. And we done some research going up into December of 2023. We had early snow, couldn't get very far. And then later it all melted.

And we actually made it miles past where we had found those prints. But just recently we had some cold weather. And yesterday, as a matter of fact, we were looking in another area that's called The Right Place. And we found some, we cast a footprint, had some really interesting activity as well as tried to get up to a mile 10. And we couldn't make it in our four-wheel drive. We had to walk a quarter of a mile to get there. but no footprints this year so far there anyway in the snow. Now, the castings that you took near where the snow prints had been found,

are they, so are those in similar size to the ones you had found? Or do you think it could be the same individual? Or what are your thoughts as to what might be going on there? Yeah, we found two prints, or two, we cast of two prints, one in a little meadow that we camped out and then one up by a place up by the mountain and they were both the same size 13 by six as the snow prints so we assume it's the same creature yeah and what's interesting about that is one was on a hill and we had taken it to the nabc museum that clip has and they looked at those prints and they go that is a squash

You can see the metatarsal break in it. And it's so it's exciting to think that there is, there's a big foot in that area that is staying in the area. And the one we found yesterday was bigger, though. The one at Wright's place, it's 15 inches. Wow. So that's pretty exciting. I'll ask and, you know, up to you if you want to answer. But is the right place in a similar?

area as to the snow tracks or is it totally separate area completely? It's similar as far as probably the elevation. It's not the same elevation, I'd say, or pretty close. But it's probably six miles away. But it's on the other side. No, it's on the same side as Bluff Creek, right? Yeah. Just the snow printer found on the go road.

Wright's place is off of Slate Creek Road. So it's a few miles away. In fact, Slate Creek Road and the right place is where Tate and Jonathan, they were going to do the Blup Creek hike. That was going to be the first resupply spot. The gate's locked right now. So we had to hike quite a – it's about a little over three miles, I think, to the bottom. We didn't quite make it to the bottom, but quite a steep hike out.

But the gate was locked. But we started walking down there. And we had some good activity. Todd had some tree knocks because – He waited back. We had found this one spot where we found a huge pile of scott and several prints in the area. We decided to cast one and it came out really nice. So then another person in the party, Caesar Sandoval, one of our friends that squashes with us a lot.

In fact, T's actually had two sightings. We walked down further and we didn't hear a whole lot, but Todd, we had walkie-talkies. we're starting to get a little bit more proficient. And he started saying that he was hearing stuff around him since we left him. But on the way back, we found another pile of that same type of scat that hadn't been there when we hiked down. It was that fresh. We came to the conclusion that we were being watched and they were doing some things. So that's pretty exciting.

I want to make sure I have a few things, right? Because I can picture the map in my head a bit. So the area where they were going to have the first, pretty much, if they had kept going on their hike, they would have gone into an extremely squatchy area, which is what I can get from that. But they didn't make it because the rapids were pretty dang treacherous, as listeners probably will remember. That's ironic. Wow. Yeah.

In fact, if you see the rapids right now because it's spring, oh my goodness. It, Bluff Creek is just pure rapids, just white water. In fact, they're repairing the bridge right now. But just, it's amazing to just think that, and what's amazing too is Fish Lake, which is off of Bluff Creek Road, is just literally across Bluff Creek. And it's not far from another famous place called Twin Lakes. But right now you can't get much past Wright's place. We tried to go up the hill there further and ran into snow. because we were thinking, oh, wow, it's pretty melted.

Let's try to get up to Cedar Camp. And we went about two miles past Wright's Place up the hill and ran into huge amounts of snow. So that turned us back. And then we went to the go road and found the same issue. Was there a certain reason that you had chosen that area as a new research area, maybe things you had heard from other people or different types of research you'd done by yourself? We've seen a video that I think Tate did. I think he has some of his extra footage, and they were down at Rice Place.

And it's wintertime, but maybe we can get down there. And it'd be a nice place to get to in wintertime. But unfortunately, if the gate wasn't locked, then we could have driven all the way down, no problem. But instead, we figured we just parked the truck and hike down as far as we could. That was the main reason because we saw it on Tate's video. He had invited me to go with him. Oh, okay. No, I'm not going up that creek.

There's no way. No. There's no way that's going to happen. It'd been hard. Yeah, hats off to them for trying. I'm so just flabberglass that no one got hurt on that hike. People should have gotten, logically, they should have gotten extremely hurt. Hats off to them.

They were carrying dogs and all sorts of stuff. The dog made it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the dog made it through there. It'd be interesting to hear what comes out of that area in the future because I know a lot of that that they were going to hike up is I don't think a lot of people have actually been in that area. There's not a lot of documentation further up on that creek.

There's no access to it. Yeah. Who knows what you'll find. Maybe if you get to right place, you could probably hike up along the creek, but not in the creek. that may be a little easier. But from Wright's Place up to probably pretty close to Laos Camp, there's no roads that lead down to the Bluff Creek. It's really steep.

One thing that really amazed me is just how thick the woods are in that area. It is just walking down that road. It was so squatchy. In fact, we found a culvert where they usually have creeks go down and it's dry. and yet 200 yards below it, there's a raging creek coming out of the ground. We didn't go down there because it was so steep, but it just shows there's got to be cave systems

and all kinds of other things in the area. Even though people might go there in the summer because they could drive down the road, it's just that whole area. I tell you, I like that area. It really impressed me. And that's why what we've been doing, And if you later will mention our YouTube website that we have or YouTube channel, we're starting to divide research areas into blocks of areas.

And we're going to be spending time in those areas because we're just finding that I just feel like there's a lot more squashes up there than people realize. You are looking into some different areas in the same area. and it sounds like you're starting to have some really interesting things happen. Hats off to you both and to Caesar, who I'll have to talk to him someday, maybe in the future. But the area, the rights place area, did you see any evidence or anything that would lead you to think that it's maybe just one individual in that area or maybe multiple individuals or it's hard to say with what you've seen? When I was walking back up the road by myself, as Doug and Caesar left me, so I was alone and vulnerable, I had actually heard four different occasions where I had heard a voice, a small piece of chatter. I had, once they left, they left, and I was sitting there, and I started hearing a few things. I figured I'll just start walking up slowly, taking 20 steps, stop, taking 20 more steps, just going to look slow.

I got to a point where probably within 100 feet, I heard three different chatters, small, just a couple little vocalizations. And then when I got towards the top near my truck or where we had that, we cast it at that footprint, I pulled it out, picked up the bag, and I started walking up. And about 30 feet from there, I heard another one. And I heard a knock just after that. So it was, there was at least one individual there. I'm pretty sure there's probably two or three.

One of the vocalizations sounded different than the other three. We did hear whistles, too. Long whistles. Not whistles like you hear from a bird, but there are 10, 15 seconds long. Wow. Are you actively recording audio when you're out there? No.

We are in the process, though. Yeah, we've got the point where we're videotaping it now. We're videoing it. now we just got to get to the next level. Yeah, can I twist your arm for you to start doing that? We have a drone. Oh, okay. To get it up and running.

We have, we're going to get sound equipment. We, we, yeah, we're getting there. We're casting now because Cliff really encouraged us to do it. So we're starting to try to at least get one cast every time we go out. And in defense of the Bigfoot Love Creek project and Tate and Jonathan and all the guys that come over there. See, it's really hard when you can only come, say, once a year and spend a week or two. It's almost like finding a needle in a haystack.

But fortunately, with us living close by, we can get up there a minimum of once a month. And sometimes we'll get up there two, three, four times a month. And we're even starting to investigate areas closer to where we live, too. Because there's a place, horse mountains, snow camp, some other areas where even Fieldbrook has had reports of things going on, which is really close to our area. We just have the luxury of being able to do this. But Tate and Jonathan and Rod Reed and all the Bluff Creek project, those guys are top-notch researchers. It's just that they just don't have the opportunity like we have.

And also lately, we're talking with the Willow Creek Bigfoot Museum, and we're going to be getting connected with them a little more too. So that's exciting. There's a guy named Eric there that is really getting things together, getting some stories from different people in the area. So you can see why even though we've had a siding in Oregon, we're like focusing on this area because this is our home and we really like it. But whenever you're wanting to hear more about the actual siding,

we'll get into that too. Oh, absolutely. for just in case some of the listeners just to make sure they're aware. So yeah, the Bluff Creek Project, those guys, the Patterson Gimlin film site would not be what it is today without their help of making sure that it is taking care of, cleaned up, all that good stuff. Bigfoot World owes them a unspeakable amount of gratitude. And yeah, those guys, super researchers, I wouldn't have been able to have my time out in the field in Iowa without Tate. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel.

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Is that the one you're referring to? Yes. Yes. Okay. That's really interesting. I have to keep an eye on that. Eric Nelson is our contact there. He's been working there for, I think, a year now.

And he's trying to get it more into Bigfoot themes. because that's what he said. People that come in there, 99% of the people that come in are asking about Bigfoot. Yeah, absolutely. And I would hope that they are. I'm glad that they are, right? Because, yeah, Willow Creek, that's hopefully what it is known for. But exciting stuff going down there in the Bluff Creek area.

But Doug, I would love to hear about your Class A siting that you had mentioned before about what had happened. Yeah, it's, I can probably think. Todd for the fact that, so this is our second, my second year of going to Squatch Fest up in Longview, Washington, which is January 26th through the 27th, and said,

hey, why don't we go up a couple days early, do a little squatch in before we go to the conference and just see if we find something. And I never expected anything. We didn't bring any casting material or anything like that. So anyway, we drive up Wednesday.

And wait, yeah, Wednesday? Yeah, we get up there Wednesday, and so we just got up there, book our motel and so forth. And Thursday morning, we decided, hey, let's go up to Mount St. Helens. That was January 25th, 2000. So we go up there trying to get to a place called Ape Cave, but there was just two feet of snow. The snow plows had just, and it was raining.

It was barely above freezing. You could barely jump out of the car and get anywhere. So we were going, wow, this isn't turning out too well. Lots of road damage. Almost every place was closed. So Todd was, hey, I noticed there's a break in the weather down in Oregon. Maybe we should go down there. So the Mount Hood area, there's like a four-hour break.

We ate lunch and made our way down there. And to start driving up the road to Mount Hood. And it was getting pretty icy. And I had a migraine headache, so I wasn't super happy about that. So we turned around and decided to go a little lower. Found this road called Sleepy Hall Road, I believe it was. And then we go up this road and find a trail called the Sandy Ridge Trail. So we thought we'd hop out.

It was a lock gate. It's a bike trail. It's BLM Land, Bureau of Land Management Land. So here we are. Just don't know anything about this area. But we just decided, hey, this looks good. There's a lock gate. There's a road.

at least we could walk up and just do something. So we did a couple tree knocks, didn't hear much activity, walked up further. There was a nice river there. And we got close to a half mile up. And all of some, we heard a tree knock. And we're going like, wow, Carrie said, hey, did you guys hear that? We go, yeah, how we heard that. So I was up about 30, 40 feet above Carrie walking up the road.

Carrie is in the middle and Todd was down about 30, 40 feet below. And it was so funny because Carrie were saying, I don't think this area is very squatchy, tell you the truth. But to me it looked squatchy because it was alders. There were ferns, bushes, huckleberries, Douglas fir, all mossy and so forth. And so we're just walking up. And all of a sudden, Carrie goes, I heard another tree dock. And Todd and I said, we didn't hear it. And then all of a sudden he started looking to the left about six.

60 yards off the trail, though at first we thought it was a little closer. But after Cliff went out there, we realized how big this thing was because it's amazing when you have a smaller human go out there and see the difference that you just go, wow. But anyway, he saw this thing standing by the tree. Lately, he said he noticed it was doing something with its hands and they made eye contact. And he said, you guys see that? And he pointed to it. And he pointed to it.

So we looked over there and I started just darting around like this. And then I paused because I was like trying to literally process what I was seeing. I saw a Sasquatch just upright, just dart through. It was like gliding. It was so quick. I've never seen anything so quick. But it was like moving just full speed like this. And I saw it for about two, three seconds.

and then it was obscured in the trees. And then Todd, unfortunately, was a little lower. So I think the trees blocked his view. Actually, when he said that, I ran up to where he was. And by the time I got there, it was gone. If I would have looked over where I was at, I probably would have saw it. But I got up to where he was at, looked over and too late. But, oh, well.

Yeah. So I always used to say, I got to see it to believe it because I'm a skeptic. Now I've seen it. And I'm like, wow. These things are real. And so I'm just glad I saw it. And Carrie thought maybe I hadn't seen it because I didn't answer for a couple seconds.

But seriously, when you see something like that, your mind's just processing it and going, what am I seeing? Because I knew it wasn't an elk, wasn't a deer, wasn't a mountain lion. It just blew me away. And I got a pretty good look at it. It didn't look at me. But Carrie actually got it literally. they made eye contact and it just took off.

Definitely have a few questions for you. Did it match up with what you had had? I'm sure we all have a mental picture of what we think. Sasquatch looks based on what we've read, research. Did it match up with that? Or were there things where you were like, I wasn't expecting what I'm seeing right now? In my case, Carrie said,

what color was it? What did you see, Doug? And I go, it was reddish brown. And he goes, no, it was a really distinct brown. And there was some white on it because he actually, I didn't see the white. So to me, it was like it was a orangutan looking type creature. But once he found a picture on the internet, I said, oh, that's what I saw. So it was just our description was just different on color, but we actually saw the same thing. I just was calling it reddish brown. And he was calling it distinct brown. I just didn't see. He said it looked like it was grain a little bit in the chin area and on the chest. But I'd say about the only thing that maybe I didn't expect is Cliff described it really well. He said it's almost like skin where you see hair hanging down like

the leather. That's what I saw. But it was not real huge, but it was definitely tall. it maybe not slender but just not quite as but the head the back the hair flowing from it its shoulders and its waist were just what i would expect to see and from patty and so forth and just the arms moving and i've just never seen anything move so fast that's what i think surprised me the most was just it was just gone and when we went out there later You just realized that if one of us tried to run in there, you would trip in five feet because there were ferns, there were bushes, just about a foot and a half deep. Because I only saw it from a midcap up. And I figured it was seven feet tall, but once Cliff went out there and was standing out there and I saw it how big he was compared to, it was probably closer to eight feet tall.

Wow. On a Thursday. Yeah. And then we went back out there on Sunday with Cliff and Matt Pruitt. and there was a he found i'm going to say probably 10 print 10 footprints in the in the ground from that he found the prints where he was standing and then he said it was it ran about 60 yards and then it sat back it stopped again so it was probably watching us as we left he went back there that he was there Sunday with us and then he had gone back a few more times with his guys

from the museum and they found more prints I think he cast it like 10 or 12 prints just from that site. Yeah, and they found dozens of prints. They ended up being able to track it back up to the river that we had seen. But because of the ice storms that had happened a few weeks before, they lost it because there was a bunch of fur bows down. Then it went through the area. We had seen it for over 100 yards.

And then they saw where it had jumped over a log that was laying down and just sat there. They got handprints, too, where it was just waiting for us to go. So just hearing what Cliff had found and what just watching him cast and how he was tracking really taught us a lot. That guy is amazing. But the behavior that it just ran off like 60 yards and stopped just was really good information that I'm going to be more cognizant enough now because if we do see him run off, they may not go very far. They're just going far enough to get out of our eyesight and they're going to be watching. us. And so that was really good information. Some might wonder why we didn't go out there Thursday to look for Prince, but there was like four inches of snow on the ground there. And I started walking

into it and it was getting to be four o'clock. Then it started raining and we're like, and I had a bad migraine. We all said, we got to get back to the motel. Maybe we'll mention it to Cliff and it rained all weekend. So most of the snow was melted by Sunday. We probably deteriorate. the tracks a little, but we did find two, a partial snow slash print, and then one folion snow that clips saw. And then all the other ones, he got it. And they were in the 15 to 16 inch range. Wow. And then we find out later that there had been sightings there a few decades ago. Okay. Even Prince Cass in that area. And it's only a few miles from his house, which we had no idea.

He was happy to know that it's probably the same squash that he's been tracking around his house. I would say absolutely. That's probably one of the best Christmas presents you could ever give to Cliff is to be like, hey, here's some solid action a few miles away from where you're at. Man, that is really cool. Did he say who had cast the footprints in that area a few decades back you were saying? I don't know if they casted any prints, but there was some sightings in that area a couple miles away.

Yeah, actually there was another Siding a couple miles away a few days later. Yeah, really. So that now is probably, I think he got more cast from that area too. Yeah, he did. And so he's going to give us, he's presented some of these prints on the NABC. So we've seen those and he's eventually going to put the videos because he was recording us when we were doing this.

And to be quite honest, you have a siding like that and it's a squatch fest and you're thinking, oh, yeah, you see a big foot and it's just about squads. So I was like really nervous thinking I sure hope he finds something because you might think, oh, what are these guys up to? They got big foot on the brain or something. And fortunately, he started finding the prints and then just legitimized everything. And so we were really relieved about that. And incidentally, to the day we were there, Melissa and Matt Pruitt were there.

And I started seeing movement. And I could see what looked like a deer. And I go, I think it's a deer. And sure enough, I flushed. it out. And that was one thing Melissa had told Matt, hey, if those guys had big foot on the brain, he would have said, oh, it's a big foot. But I know the difference. I can identify what a bear is. In fact, we saw a bear yesterday, too. Todd and Caesar did when we were doing that area in another spot we had gone to. So we know our animals. It's just one of those things. Up there when we were

on that Sunday, we were up there with Cliff and Matt and his wife. Matt is a, wife were walking around, they found two elk spinal cords. Really? Yeah, in the ferns and just laying there. So it's obviously a spot that something is killing, has killed these elk, a couple of elks. Man. And I'm sure it's a squash that's killing the elk.

They found two spinal cords, which was pretty cool. And I think the more I remember, I think it was John Green that may have been the one that reported in one of his books about sightings in that very same area because Cliff had done research and it happened 20 or 30 years before. So he says, you guys are in an area where there's been sightings. And so they were pretty excited. They were going back and they went back at least three or four times and kept finding more evidence. He's getting closer in that area. Who is, who's Carrie? Carrie is my brother-in-law. He was, he was with us. He saw it first. He's, he's, he was with us. He saw it first.

he's he was with us when we had the snow prints okay but usually when we do these the last time when we did the podcast which he was out of town so he wasn't available same as tonight he's out of town so he's out of town a lot so is he a bigfoot guy oh yeah big time okay cool thanks to me okay i got you i got you yeah yeah yeah nice yeah he's relatively new and and it's funny because i I don't know what it is about him being with us, but we always seem to have really good success when he's around, even though he's relatively new. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeet's World.

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I don't know if you can put in a good word for me, Todd, as being his relative. That might be cool. Doug, did what you saw, did that affect what you had thought of what Bigfoot is prior at all? It verified to me

what I expected because I know that people sometimes I just think it's paranormal and this and that. But I've always been under the impression that it's a great American ape. Because I'm reading Matt Pruitt's book right now and just seeing the natives and their history and how they found all kinds of ape-like things in North America. But the reason why it's never been pursued that much is because zoologists immediately say there's no apes in North America. So it can't be an ape.

it's got to be something superstitious or spirit, whereas all the native cultures always have it as a real thing, the boss of the woods. So the fact that I now seen it, and it looked to me similar to an orangutangang, but obviously different, like a giant pithicus type thing, it's just verified to me that there's something out there

and it's just very elusive. And sometimes people, when they've had a sighting, they go, okay, that's good. I'm done. I don't need to do anymore. But for me, I'd really like to still get even more verifiable evidence because the Bigfoot community is often just treated like you guys are a bunch of non-intelligent people, but there's a lot of smart people in this area. And just like the ape of Africa, same type of things or the tiger. People would say, oh, they do this and that. And once the knowledge gets out there and the actual logic enters the picture,

then they realize that these things are real. So in the same way, now that I've seen that, I'd like to see some more, actually. Yeah. To see them get protected like other animals. That's really interesting because some people, when they have that sighting, it seems like there's no middle ground. There's either I'm freaked out and I never want to see that again. or I want to make sure that these things don't become extinct.

So it's cool. You have that. You had that reaction. I don't know if there's like a right or wrong reaction per se. Yeah, hopefully someday I'm able to see one as well. We'll see. I'm headed out to, I don't think I told you this, but I'm headed out to Oregon this, this July to the Oak Ridge area. So we try to get some interviews.

and who knows what will happen out there. But Todd, do you mind sharing a bit? I think you mentioned earlier you guys have a YouTube channel that you've started to work on. Yeah, it's a Bigfoot Wilderness Research. And we've been basically documenting our research. Every time we go out, we film it, whether we find something or we don't. We record what we are hiking. We record what we find, what we don't find.

We are planning on doing a couple nine days. events this week this summer up in the CSU National Forest, nine day camping slash Bigfoot research trips in a couple of the areas. Actually, we'll probably come in four areas

and we're hoping to have a documentary on these four areas and we'll be putting that on our YouTube channel. That's really exciting to hear. Now are these areas that you've been research

ahead of time or that you've just heard from people, hey, it's probably a good idea to check out this particular area at the Siskus. The first nine day trip we're going to be probably the first half camping at Laos camp, but not obviously not research in that area, but going in areas up along the Lonesome Ridge Road, researching those areas that we've driven through but never did extensive research in. Also, Elk Valley, where that's going to be part of. of our first trip. But the second trip, we're going to be going to a couple of areas that we've cut our way

into a year or a half of a year or so. So we're going to be really, these areas, no one has gone. There's going to be been down there for years. Wow. And those areas we're really interested in getting down. One area is like towards the headwaters of Bluff Creek, the north side and the headwater. So we're interested in getting down in that area and seeing what's down there. I don't think anyone has been down there in a long time.

Yeah, and definitely in the region of where we found the snow prints, too, we've been really heavily hit in that area, and we just keep, we almost get the feeling that we're getting communication from the Sasquatch community in that area, because we find cedar trees just snapped off. We've had loud tree knocks. Every time we go there, we're getting something. So it's almost, I don't know if they're upset that we've discovered that they're in the area or what it is.

But that's one thing, though, I would always caution everybody is we realize that these are creatures that sometimes they say, oh, they look human, but they are animals. So we need to, fortunately, they haven't been aggressive like they are in Alaska. when I hear some of the stories of Alaska, I'm like, I don't think I ever want to go up there because those things you don't want to kill humans. Whereas so far up to this point, they seem to be a little more curious of us and not dangerous, but I don't want to ever push the envelope. Absolutely. At least I won't really say which one.

But one of the locations you mentioned I've heard of before as being a pretty intense area. So I'm very interested to see what happens. Yeah. We've never, actually, we've never camped in that area. We've been there a couple of times, but we wanted to spend a few days there, three or four nights and research that whole area doing day hikes in different areas and seeing what we can. There's three creeks that their headwaters is in that area.

It starts from there, Dylan Creek, Blue Creek, and I think there's another one that starts in that valley. It seems like it would be a good place to do a long-term research plan. Absolutely. There's a few questions I want to ask you guys. Just I'm curious what the answers will be. Have you ever heard anything among your years of Bigfoot research that if the situation had happened to you, you would be very cautious about going into the field again?

I have heard some pretty hair-raising things. In fact, I ended up purchasing a book by Robert Alley, and it's about a lot of Alaska experiences. He has experiences, and when I started reading that, I was like, man, it just, those Bigfoot up there, not all of it, but some of them have chased people and done this and done that. And it just tells me that we have to be cautious. I don't carry a firearm. We just carry, Caesar's carrying bear spray. So that's a good idea. He was practicing a little bit.

I carry a knife, and Todd carries a pretty big knife. He laughs about my little knife. But I just realized that like a bear, bears generally run from you, but there could always be that one bear that might attack you. Same thing with a mountain line. I know recently I heard a mountain line. I heard a mountain line killed like a 20-year-old up in Sacramento area. So there's always that risk.

It's very slight. But I don't think I would back off if I knew these things because I just have the interest of what is not known in this. I have that curiosity. I'd like to be on the cutting edge of just getting not just a sighting, but just proof, just a late arrest. Because Patterson Gimlin film, to me, is very good proof. And the more they investigate that thing, the more they validate. And then there's been some others like the Freeman films. And Jonathan has a really nice documentary on the Freedman film as a matter of fact.

So good. So I think if we all collectively keep doing what we're doing, it's going to come to fruition. So I'm not backing off. I'm keeping moving forward. All the encounters we've had have been. non-aggressive, but you get that one aggressive encounter and it may change the whole thing. Hopefully it won't, but get a wild animal that charges at you, you may change your whole outlook on campus.

I am thinking of something, though, because we have another place east of Orleans up in the mountains going towards the Hoopah Reservation, which is behind a known Sasquatch area. and I had a tree get broken because Todd and Kerry were actually left me and I was just cleaning up the truck because we had heard some, we had been hiking around and we had heard, found some tree breaks and we were almost thought we heard chatter near the truck, but we came back down to eat lunch and some, a block of geese flew over and we heard something making a call like geese, but it didn't sound like geese. I almost like it was a Sasquatch really close, but just a little different. So those guys start hiking off and I'm just cleaning up. And also I hear this in this tree branch is just 20 feet long. It's just thrown out. I saw it out of the side of my vision.

And I just freaked out. And I ran up and Todd goes, man, hey, said my eyes looked like this because that was one moment. I got really scared. That happened to summer. And we did make a print. We used that spray stuff and we decided plaster of Paris is better. It's about a 14 inch print. So that's another research area we've done.

And then there is one time, which I think we may have mentioned years ago, and this is Caesar actually had a sighting. So if you want to talk to him, we'll talk to him and try to book you up with him on that too. But in the Trinity Alps area, in the Hobel Gulch area, undisclosed location, we did get a couple really threatening tree knocks the day after he had his siding because we found a nest, we found literally what we call like a big foot bathroom, because we found just scat everywhere in a huge area that was just when we got really close to that area, we kept getting Trenox louder and louder.

And finally at that point, we got one so loud that we all agree. That was a threat. I think it's time for us to leave. It was close. It was like 30 yards away. And you could feel it in your body just as loud. just crash. And yeah, we say, yeah, let's head out.

And they followed us out too. Oh, wow. Yeah. Oof. That's good to hear that you guys are ready to keep going, even if you hear some wild stuff, you're still wanting to keep going. So that is good. The other question I had for you guys is, have you ever had any conversations with

forestry workers or the equivalents around those areas? about Bigfoot and how did those conversations go? I was doing a shower valve for this older couple. Now, I'm a plumber part-time, and I saw a Bigfoot little sticker on the bed table, the side table. It said, we believed. I asked the wife, and she said, oh, he's a believer. He was in the lumber industry for 40 years.

And he had told me that he saw a squash like four times. they found prints all over the place. And he said they were told not to say anything about seeing a big foot or seeing their prints. He saw a couple by Lake Tahoe, one in the by Yosemite and one in the Trinity Alps. Because he was in the lumber industry for years. And he said, they saw prints, foot footprints all the time. But he was, he's 80 years old now. But it was initially talking to him and listening to his stories.

And he was pretty convincing. And then this past fall, we ran into a Forest Service guy. This was after the fires and everything. And we had, it's in our area of the 10-mile marker on the go road, but off on this forest service road. And we had driven all the way to the lower section of it where there's this sperm. and me and Todd had just done a bunch of an investigation that day, and that next day we actually went out there and spent the night out there.

But all of a Forest Service truck comes down there, and this kid jumps out, and he just asked what we were up to, and we said, oh, we were just doing this and that, and we had offered him a beer, and he said, okay. And so he was looking for mushrooms. I think he was just trying to find out if we were, like, maybe illegally harvesting mushrooms, because unfortunately there's some really prized,

mushrooms in our area that are worth a lot of money and people do that. But we, of course, we weren't doing that. So apparently that was a really good area where there was a lot of these mushrooms. And so we started talking to them and found out that he had worked in the Olympic rainforests before. And he, so we got talking and we go, what do you think about Sasquatch? That's what we were actually looking for. And he goes, oh, that's really cool.

He goes, my supervisor actually found a nest at the headwaters of Bluff Creek. and he goes, that's my goal. I want to see one up here. And so we ended up having a really good conversation. So one of the reasons he moved to here was so that maybe he could find one. So he said his supervisor actually had found a nest at headwaters of Bluff Creek. The Forest Service knows more than we realize they're just not being really. I would agree with you 100%.

That's a really big thing to just for an individual that's not in a big foot to just drop. Oh, my supervisor. found in a nest by the headwaters of Bluff Creek. Do you guys, you have an idea of like where that might be or is that something you might be looking into guys or? It's hard to get to that area, but that one area that we've been to,

we're hoping to get, if we can get down to Bluff Creek from that area, we should be really close to the headwaters. And we, hopefully we can get to an area where we're, we can hopefully find either a cave or a nest at the headwaters. Yeah, what's interesting is we had all those bad fires this summer, but in some ways it was almost a blessing in disguise

because the Forest Service and the fire departments, Cal Fire, they ended up widening all the roads. Like the Go Road got cleared to where it was almost like a highway again. It was cleared off on the sides. And then we went down this road that we had cut out, and only to discover it had been a fire line for the forest service. So it's a really nice road now. And it takes you to this quarry that we're not going to disclose where this is because it's our little spot.

But we know that it's very near the headwaters of Bluff Creek. Scorpion Creek's not far away. We had an experience there where I think I may have mentioned it last time where something was watching Todd's wife and drop the branch. Unfortunately, that tree there is burnt now, but mostly the fire did not destroy areas as bad as you would think. It mainly just stayed in the valleys and came up. So Laos Camp's good still. Cedar Camp on the verge, Beans Camp, good, valleys in good shape. It just burnt some areas, but it wasn't as bad as you could think.

But one good thing is they cleared all the roads. In fact, the road probably to Laos Camp is probably much clearer now. than it used to be from Beaton's camp route. That's good to hear. Oh, man, you guys are into some wild stuff. I'm so glad to hear that you're continuing to get into some crazy stuff. And I'm just happy that you're in such close proximity to that Bluff Creek area so that you can do the type of things that you are actively doing. Yeah, I appreciate you guys.

I just want to say thank you so much for agreeing to come on. Is there, I'll give you a chance if there's anything that you guys want to shout out or if someone wants to contact you about the areas that we mentioned, is there a way that people can reach out to either of you guys? Well, we have a X or Twitter account, Bigfoot Wildness Research or YouTube. They could also contact me through my Yahoo account, Todd Samples, at Yahoo. Yeah, and eventually we're going to probably get a website. We're in the process of doing that. But they can contact us through those things. I know that I've shouted out to Tate and Ron Reed that if they want a place to stay to come out here, everyone.

And, of course, Jonathan, too. We're trying to get them to come here. But I know they have a lot of projects, so it's hard to do that. But yeah, anytime they want to come out, they can. And anyone else that wants to get a hold of us, we'd be happy to talk to them. They could probably do it through the Bigfoot Museum, too, in Willow. Creek if they got a hold of Eric because he's he's going to pass on stuff to us like if he hears experiences and stuff and he's going to mention our names. Yeah, it's pretty exciting. Thank you so

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