Bigfoot Society - Face to Face with Bigfoot | Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch (Archive Episode)

Episode Date: September 1, 2024

Originally released on 9/26/23Fred Roehl is a First Nation's Alaskan native and Curyung Tribal Counsel member from Dillingham, Alaska.In this episode, Fred shares what he has experienced in the wilds ...of Alaska and some of what has been shared with him along the way.Resources:Please subscribe to Fred's channel "Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch" - https://www.youtube.com/@subarcticalaskasasquatchhttps://subarcticalaskasasquatch.comShare your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.comWant to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:16 Fred, this is going to be a fun interview. I've never had an individual be requested so many times for me to get them on the podcast. Literally probably three to four times a day in the comments I get someone saying, you need to have Fred from Alaska. You need to have Fred from Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch channel. Come on and talk about Alaska Harryman. So I'm just so happy to finally get you on, Fred. How are you doing tonight?
Starting point is 00:02:49 I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. Oh, fantastic. And just to give, there may be some listeners that, you know, don't know about you yet. But if you're not following and subscribe to Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch channel on YouTube, you really need to make sure that you do right after this. It's pretty cool because you're reporting, you're recording Alaskan Harryman encounters,
Starting point is 00:03:13 your First Nations Alaska Native, and your tribal council member from Dillingham, Alaska, which is just awesome that you have that connection. You can really be connected to the stories that you are recording and reporting. So it's just, it's awesome. Fred, and remind me the area that you are based out of. Is it Dillingham then? I'm from there.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I'm from Bristol Bay. I currently live in Wasilla, Alaska. There's no job opportunities in Bristol Bay unless it's seasonal because a lot of the good jobs there, whether it be hospital or otherwise are already taken. So it's just not a very financially viable place to live here around. Gotcha. Yeah. And from what I've gathered from other interviews, it can be a pretty hostile environment to live in Alaska, but it is a beautiful environment. But it's also a very, it can be a very unforgiving. You don't get too many chances up there. Yeah. Like I tell people all the time, Alaska don't care. It really don't. It's irrelevant in what you're prepared for. You never know what you're going to get up here. It's, it's,
Starting point is 00:04:35 It's always different. Absolutely. You know, I'd be curious, Fred. What was it that that first brought you into being so interested and involved with recording and reporting these encounters? Do you remember a time in your life when you were first introduced to this concept of the Alaskan Harry man? Oh, geez. I was a little kid. My auntie, when we were young, we always had fish camp, hunting camp, and so on in the village.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And when we were really young, we were too young to participate in pulling and hauling nets and picking fish. So one of our aunties would watch us during those months. And, you know, like especially my aunt Lucy, she was one of the most boisterous and outspoken people when it came to watching out for the hairy man because it wasn't just mythological. folklore, it was a fact of life. Just no different than beware of a moose at the end of the driveway, it may stop you to death type of thing. So she would always warn us about, you know, don't follow strange whistles into the woods. Don't go into the woods alone.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Don't turn your back on the woods. Don't be out after dark. The hairy man will get you. You know, and as a kid hearing these things, you know, over and over, you know, being a little kid, I thought I was savvy. They were just trying to keep us from having fun. And so in 1983, I remember it clearly. I snuck away from the group that was in the front yard of my grandma's house.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Her property was right at the end of the runway next to the Dillingham Airport at the time by Squawc Creek site. And I snuck away from the group because I wanted to work on my tree fort. And so I'm approximately about 120 yards away from my grandma's house on this little trail. and it was open, but about 70 yards in front of me, there was a big bunch of willows. And they're about 10, 12 foot tall roughly. And I had my path, I had to take through those willows to get to where I was building my tree for. And I was about 70 yards from it. And I was staring at my feet at the time.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I remember it Claire's Day and something just told me look up. And when I looked up, I saw this big shadow in the willows. And I immediately, my Uncle Leo was like 6-2. So I thought it was him at first, and I thought, oh, crap, I'm going to be in trouble. And it wasn't my Uncle Leo. This thing screamed at me. The most blood-curdling, just scary thing I dealt with at that time, and I turned around and ran back.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Of course, I got in trouble for it and whatnot. And then a little bit later, that season in the fall, we went up the Nishigach River, on a 32-foot Rosson fishing boat, and we used that as our base camp for moose hunting at the end of fishing season, because my family was deeply involved in commercial salmon fishing. And so we would use that big boat as our base camp. We would anchor out in the river and use a small skip to go and get our moose and whatnot. And we had this a frame built in the back of it on the stern side to where we had a tarp over it, and we could hang our moose meat and it wouldn't get rained on and it could hang and all that kind of stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:08:09 So we were on our way back from hunting camp, basically, and there was a handful of us younger cousins, a few older cousins that were in their mid to late teens and two of my uncles and my dad. And we got stuck on a gravel bar just at Black Bluff by Angel Bay, which is the title area of the Nushegak, going in the Nushegak Bay from the river. And it's right where the fresh water meets the ocean water. And we were stuck. There was no way we were getting up until the tide came in. And so one of my older cousins, after a little while,
Starting point is 00:08:48 the adults were stressing that they, you know, they didn't want the boat to tip over and then potentially, you know, take on water when the tide comes in. So they were working things out, you know, how to stabilize the boat and all this. So it didn't tip or whatever. But one of my older cousins was like, let me get the younger kids out of your hair. I'll take them sport fishing, you know, with Rod and Reel in the skiff.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And, you know, get them out of your hair, basically. So we all got our fishing poles into the skiff. And we're backing away from the boat. And there was a lot of commotion because you got the outboard running. You got the adults on the boat still talking. And we, us kids, we were just concerned about fishing. You know, we're all excited or whatever. and there was this screaming going on, but we weren't putting two and two together,
Starting point is 00:09:35 and then we were hearing this splashing going on. And my dad and my uncles were sitting there screaming, waving us back. We came back to the stern of the boat, and immediately they were taking us kids off as quickly as possible. And when we all got on deck and we were going into the, basically the cabin of the boat where the wheelhouse is, the screaming was really, really loud. And we noticed because one of our other cousins was pointing up to the Black Bluff,
Starting point is 00:10:05 which was about 70 yards away and about 65 feet above us, roughly. And there was a silhouette up there of a Harryman, and he was screaming and started throwing rocks. And, you know, everyone, they were concerned, of course, because it's throwing rocks. But none of the rocks were hitting the boat yet. And then one hit, broke through the tarp and hit a piece of loose pinecourt. that was hanging there so hard it snapped off of its line and fell to the deck and immediately they rushed us downstairs and you know there's a bunch of gun fire going on and we'd hear
Starting point is 00:10:42 screaming rocks thrown and you know another volley of fired it that was basically uh where the reality of what we were doing with really sunk in as far as the dangers because seeing something at a distance versus seeing its aggression or, you know, the potential of that aggression, you know, play out in front of you. It was really, really eye-opening, but we ended up, you know, sequestered down even lower in the sleeping quarters, which wasn't very big. And I couldn't tell you how long the screaming and the gunshots went on, but it went on for a while because they would shoot it.
Starting point is 00:11:23 It would fall down. It would get right back up and throw more rocks from what I heard later. And eventually we fell asleep down, you know, down underneath there. And when we woke back up, we were at the, you know, Dillingham Boat Harbor. And, you know, my uncles and my dad were taught my mom and aunties, you know, everything that happened and whatnot. But that was some of the most intense portions in my childhood. There was other sightings, you know, very picking and whatnot. And something a lot of people don't realize.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I was talking to someone from the village earlier today. Our heritage is so steeped in these supposed mythological folklore, whatever you want to call it. But it's a day-to-day life for a lot of villagers, even to this day. And it's hard to convey that sometimes because a lot of people, they're raised, you know, Boy Scouts, and, you know, they get out to national parks to get their fill of getting into the woods and whatnot. and up here you step outside, you know, we don't have any park boundaries that animals abide by. I get moose, bear, fox, all that. They come through my yard.
Starting point is 00:12:38 You know what I mean? So it's a different dynamic up here. It's totally different. And when it comes to things like the Harryman, little people, you know, Kustika, whatever you want to call, the Otter Man, there's Moose Man. there's a bunch of different stories, if you want to call it that, but they're all based in reality. And I think a lot of people just chalk that up to, oh, that's just mythological talk. That's just, you know, keep kids in line and this and that.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And it's not the case because I know many villagers that could go on for days about Harryman experiences they've had or their relatives had or, you know, so on and so forth. So it's really, it's basically day-to-day life for a lot of people in the village. That story you just told me, it sounded like, so did they actually hit the Harry Man with their shots, do you think? Oh, yeah, 100%. 100%. According to what I was told later, it just kept getting back up and throwing more rocks. we come from a long line of subsistence hunters we when we're when we're shooting it's not braggadoja
Starting point is 00:14:00 we shoot to kill and make it quick it's you know we're not out there to take 20 shots on an animal just to wound it we're from the mindset of one shot one kill a lot my dad's a vietnam vet my uncles were non-bets they're well versed when it comes to shooting and the distance that thing was, it wasn't all that far. Wow. The stories that you've heard over the years, has anyone actually been able to successfully shoot one so that it will be,
Starting point is 00:14:39 you know, they got a specimen or is it a thing where you'll try to shoot it and every time it just keeps getting back up? Well, No, I've shared a story that a clinket elder shared with me. His name was Thomas. He's since passed. But he happened to have dispatch, we'll call it, three of them over the course of a decade.
Starting point is 00:15:09 One time, the first time was in the Tongass. They were there for a logging job and what have you. the second time was up to Copper River Valley and the third time was between Selwick and Calstag where he dispatched one and what he relayed to me and this was just about a year ago that he had shared this with me
Starting point is 00:15:34 or a little over a year it was a head shot through the ear or in the eye that was the only way to get them to stay down and basically die. The first one they buried, the second one they burned, and the third one, he claimed that he had cut it up and disposed of its body parts, some of it in the cave and its torso back at the end
Starting point is 00:16:05 of a valley. So there's that. Now, this gentleman was in his 90s, he had nothing to gain, you know, by sharing that. He was mainly just trying to educate me because I told him my experience and how my shops were ineffective. And that's when he stopped me and was like, you got to shoot him in the soft tissue, neck, eyes, geared, you know, something like that in order to get them to basically stop. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the. Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here, you need the Intuit
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Starting point is 00:18:25 And that reminds me, I've talked to a gentleman before. It was that close to Prince of Wales Island? Not horribly far from it. I think the clinket elders were involved with that area, too, from what I remember. But the southeast Alaska area is very intense with, I believe there's, they say there's tribes of four-toed Sasquatch that are seeing down there. Is that anything that you've run into before in any stories that you've gathered? Yeah, I've heard those accounts.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yeah, I've heard of those accounts. I talk to natives from all across the state. And, you know, you get accounts of three toes, four toes, five, and even six toads. But typically when you hear of the six-toe prints, they're like 24 inches long and a good foot wide. So to me, that's more along the lines of what we call a mountain giant. And there's accounts of those as well. And you still hear accounts from up near Ruby up on the Yukon, where villagers will hear the trumpeting of like elephants. And they claim to have seen mammoths in recent history within the last day.
Starting point is 00:19:46 That is something I would love to explore to see a woolly mammoth live and in person just out in the middle of nowhere. That would be an experience. That's incredible. So you've talked to people that have personally encountered like the sounds of woolly mammoths you're saying? Oh, yeah. Yeah, villagers from Ruby and Galena. Right on the Yukon. river within 15 miles of the river is what I was told.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Man, that's wild. I mean, you never know the stories you hear out of the Yukon and I've heard other things as well. And just that area is so remote, so wild. Man, it's crazy. And you'd mention mountain giants as well. Man, that's a new one I hadn't heard of either. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:44 There was a guy. he was spotting for Moose or Caribou, I forget what it was, but he said he had, you know, he had one of those big old, I forget the power on it, but it was one of those huge spotting scopes where you can easily see a mile away. You know what I mean? And he was spotting and he noticed this big grayish green thing moving and it looked like it was trees on its back. And he said it was about 30 foot tall and it had like a mane going down its back. It was grayish green, had hair down its forearms and kind of cuffed around its wrist and was a little longer around the wrist the hair was. He said the back kind of reminded him of a snapping turtle, you know, with the splines on the back or whatever. Sure. And he said it kind of looked like that, but it was more like a bristly type of hair down the back. It had tusks from the lower jaw protruding up next to the nostrils. And he said it just moved nonchalant.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And he was just in awe watching this thing from roughly a mile away. And he heard a bush plane in the distance. And he looked at probably not where the plane was. And he spotted the plane. Then he looks back. And this thing, as he looked back, he saw just the tail into this thing crunching down to the ground. And it blended in perfectly with the,
Starting point is 00:22:11 scenery. So when this thing was moving, it heard the plane as well and just kind of laid low, stayed still, and you wouldn't even see it. That's incredible, man. I wonder if anyone has ever captured actual like video evidence or anything of creatures like that. That's a new subject for me, man. Well, I've personally seen footage of little people. I've personally seen way better footage in 4K resolution of a Sasquatch. There's a homestead down on the peninsula, and these people contacted me about a year ago. They had started getting goats because they wanted ghosts to keep the land clear, you know, the undergrowth kind of, you know, to a minimum.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And they had a couple small pins, and they had just basically started their homestead on about five to six acres roughly. And one of their goats came up missing one day. And so the husband went out, kind of looked around, saw some weird tracks, thought it was a double bear impression, you know. And so, okay, it's a bear. So he kind of went outside of the property, scouting around, couldn't really find anything, no blood trail, no sign of this missing goat.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Comes back. That evening, he saw a dark shadow in the trees and just fired around up into the trees to scare whatever this large looming thing was, he assumed it was a bear on his hind feet. Well, the thing disappeared, no harm, no foul kind of thought process. And the next morning, when they were drinking coffee at their table, they heard a loud, just this monstrous scream that ended in the high pitch. And this thing, it took their second goat, ripped it in half,
Starting point is 00:24:05 and threw both halves at the cabin one after another. And that got their attention because they heard the scream. They saw what was left of the goat smacked up against their cabin. And so once it got a little lighter outside, he went out to investigate. Nothing was going on. It was dead quiet. He got rid of the remains of the goat and kind of looked for more sign of what this was. They had called the authorities at that point.
Starting point is 00:24:35 The authorities told them, hey, bears are around, you know, keep your goats close, put up electrical fence, you know, just basically shined them on, wasn't listening to the scream part of it. They just blew it off. And later on that day, he was out in their front yard with his daughter. And this is rustic. It was freshly cleared, so it's not like they had a manicured lawn or anything, but they did have a fence up.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It was about 40 feet from their front window where the fence started, and that was basically their front lawn. And he was out there with his daughter, and they heard a scream. And so he stood still, put his daughter behind him, and on video, the video portion I saw was the wife recording from inside from a little Sony handycam. And this Sasquatch walked between that fence and this guy who had his daughter behind him. And this thing was looking at him with such disdain and like hatred, like he wanted to end him. But for some reason he couldn't kind of look.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And you can see clearly on video. This thing just walked on by, stepped over the fence, and went off into the trees. I tried for months to get them to release that footage anonymously. I told them I'd leave their names out. I'd wear faces. I would do whatever I had to do to make them at ease to release this footage. And they wouldn't budge. And, you know, I wasn't going to put on a bunch of high-pressure tactics that was their footage.
Starting point is 00:26:05 It was their thing. I just left it at that. But I still wish I could get my hands on that footage because, you know, the Patterson Gimlin footage is great, but this is on a different level of clarity. You can see the muscle movement clearly. You can count individual hairs on this thing, and its face was very defined, very clear. It was just amazing footage. and unfortunately, you know, they want no part of it.
Starting point is 00:26:37 They want not even anonymously they want to share. They were just asking my advice on how to keep them away from their property. And that's as far as they wanted to take it, unfortunately. That is a shame, but you do have to respect, you know, as they are the owners of the footage. But it sounds like footage like that could totally, you know, a lot of people could prove the existence. of the creature, I would imagine. I mean, it would probably make a few people change their mind.
Starting point is 00:27:10 But was, ooh. Yeah, and it's intense. I saw it with my own eyes in their cabin, in the same living room they filmed it from. And that, I tried to, you know, I was trying to be as, you know, unintrusive as possible,
Starting point is 00:27:31 but firm in trying to express to them. Look, a lot of people can gain from this. financially, but just knowledge-wise on the realities of what you're dealing with. You know, it could lead to more help because the best I could tell you is, you know, maybe put up some IR floodlights and, you know, stay in at night. You know, that's the best advice I could give, you know, outside of outright shooting the thing and they wanted no part of that either. I offered to come in with a team of guys and take a look around.
Starting point is 00:28:03 They wanted no part of that. you know, they were basically hoping that I had the silver bullet, so to speak, for their situation and, you know, would make it all go away. But unfortunately, I don't have that, you know. Can you describe, you know, when you looked at that video and you saw that footage, what did you see in the face of the creature? It looked more than Neanderthal than eight. very similar to what I saw in 06, just not quite as big. This thing was about 10 foot tall. I would say the shoulder width, just by simple, just looking at the footage and the husband's height,
Starting point is 00:28:50 I would say shoulders were about four, four and a half foot wide. Arms hung down just, you know, just above the knee. The forearm was longer than the upper arm. The hands were huge. the jaw was really big, wide, and pronounced. You could tell that its teeth, if it was showing them, it protruded out further than the nose. Ash gray-colored skin, pitch black eyes, real wrinkly-faced.
Starting point is 00:29:22 You could tell under the hair with the movement, the muscle definition was like these bodybuilders you see that are just, you can see every sinew and every fiber of muscle under their skin. It was very similar to that, just coated in this hair. It was about four, four and a half inches long for the most part, but the upper part of the head had a little bit of longer hair. So it would look like half rocker style on the hair, on the head. But then it, you know, it all went down to a shorter length on the rest of the body.
Starting point is 00:29:59 The genitalia was basically, covered by hair. You could tell it was a big male, but it wasn't like its junk was hanging or anything like that. It was just a lot of hair in that area. The upper part of the leg looked longer than the lower part.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And you could easily see in the footage when it was stepping because I got the opportunity to watch it about four or five different times. You could see the foot almost looked like it was flopping because of that mid-torsal break the way it was walking.
Starting point is 00:30:31 just an anthropologist would kill their firstborn to have this footage to study. It was, it's great. And I told them if they weren't going to share it, I would destroy it. Just what I told them, because I would never, you know, give away their name or their exact location. I just wouldn't betray them like that. But, you know, I tried to reach out to them just a few months ago to see how they were, doing, but I didn't get a response. You know, I think for a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:31:07 once they get some kind of confirmation that they're not crazy, they want nothing more to do with it. I agree with you. That lines up with, you know, people I've talked to is a lot of times they just want to share what they've experienced so they can go to sleep at night and feel like they're not crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I totally get it. Right. I mean, on my channel right now, I have 172 videos. If I was able to share every encounter shared with me that, you know, if they were open to it, even if they remained anonymous, I would have four or five hundred encounters on my channel. It's just a lot of people, they want to talk to someone who ain't going to judge them and get it off their chest. And it seems like a lot of them, once they get it off their chest, they can let it go, so to speak. You know, for some people speaking it out loud,
Starting point is 00:32:09 because a lot of the people I interview, I talk to them three, four, five times just so I get there and counterdowns. So when I relay it in a video, I can give the finer details. I can walk the viewer through it to where they feel like they're in that place at that time. And, you know, talking to the people,
Starting point is 00:32:28 it helps me, for one, it's kind of like a form of therapy, but also it helps the listener to better understand, you know, terrain, time of day, circumstances, all that kind of thing. Versus if I was just like, let's say, reading an email verbatim, you know what I mean? Because those finer details and nuances, you're not going to pick up in an email. You get that from talking to them. Benflection in their voice when they're talking about their encounter, whether there was a comical moment or, you know, outright. deadly type of feeling that they felt.
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Starting point is 00:35:06 He ended up having to stay there because of heavy rains. But there was a banging on the back of that hotel that scared him. Now, this is an investigator, anti-terror, been to the sandbox, as he put it, you know, counterterrorism, well-trained, been through the trenches with, you know, combat vet, basically. and this thumping, this banging on the back of this hotel, scared him to his core. He said he didn't understand it because he didn't see anything but just the presence of this thing
Starting point is 00:35:39 and feeling the power behind the banging on the wall is scared him. And to me, that speaks volumes. If someone that's been through something like that can be scared to their core, like a little child, who's been through that, that to me, it says a lot about the creature we're dealing with up here. It's not your forest friend. They're not here to help you with anything, type of creature, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:12 and that's one of the driving forces on why I want to share Alaska experiences is because what we deal with up here, it's far removed from some of the encounters you may hear about down in the States, you know. It's a totally different environment. I think they're more aggressive because the seasons up here are so short. It's already in the fall. It's already been below freezing, you know, in the mornings already. Because of that short cycle we have up here, I think they're a lot more vicious because of the limited resources that can be attained in that short amount of time.
Starting point is 00:36:51 So you get a lot of encounters from moose hunters, caribou hunters. salmon fishermen, berry pickers. You know, every resource people go out to attain up here is typically an encounter location, you know, or potential encounter location. I get accounts all the time from the villages, like the ones outside of Bethel, Russian Mission, Mountain Village, you know, places like this, where out berry picking, these things have been known to try to lure, women away. You know, with this slow motion wave, I've had a young lady in her early 20s share with me not too long ago where they were just checking the conditions of the berries to see if they're almost right for picking her and her little cousin.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And they're in the wide open, wide open tundra and nothing around. They get to this, it was basically a horseshoe shape trail. They get to the apex of it roughly. And all of a sudden, there's this hairy man. about 70-ish feet away, roughly. And initially, she said she was almost in a trans-like state, like she felt peaceful with this thing waving at her. And she's on a four-wheeler with her little cousin.
Starting point is 00:38:09 So the trailway we were on was well-defined. You know, you got your trenches from the tread tires of the many four-wheelers that have been through there before. And she beard off, and she bumped her knee getting off of that trail, and it snapped her out of that train. and she sought for what it was and realize the danger and, you know, get out of out of there.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So you get accounts like that. Like, what are we really dealing with? It's something that can put you in a trans-like state, you know, especially the vulnerable women and children. It's real creepy, man. You know, and I got no answer for it. It's just creepy stuff. Have you ever heard of people being alert by the sound of a big?
Starting point is 00:38:55 baby crying in the woods? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've heard the baby crying myself. You have. Oh, yeah. My cousin Elizabeth Osterhoss, now Elizabeth Cook, back in 1967 or 69, one of the two, she lived down on Alaska Island, no trees. It's a wind-swept, Dutch Harbor.
Starting point is 00:39:19 You know, it's just wind-swept. You may get some scrub brush, but that's it. they had a neighbor, a young native woman who had a child out of wedlock at the time with the fisherman. The fisherman went away and she was left with this baby. And so she would always ask for help from her neighbors and whatnot. But this baby's cry, everyone knew it because it was a colicky young baby and the mom didn't know what it was doing. You know, she was doing. And so she would ask for help.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And it was going into dust, getting dark. and they heard this baby crying outside. They knew the cry and they recognized it. Well, they go outside her and another cousin to look to see what was going on with the baby crying, you know, making sure the baby didn't need help. And they get outside, they go around, they don't see anything, and they're going back into their little apartment. And right in front of the bay window, 10 feet away, looking at him as this hairy man, imitating that baby cry to a T. to perfection. She said that it sounded
Starting point is 00:40:24 identical to the baby cry. Now, to me, that's a level of cunning that is just unreal because they're literally using a woman's natural instinct against them. They're using that baby cry to lure them out. That's, man, that is some cunning
Starting point is 00:40:40 stuff, man. Just cunning. I don't. Yeah. Go ahead. No, I just, it just boggles my mind, you know, and that's why we're raised up here. You know, there's nothing good that comes. We were never raised to follow them. We were never raised to track them. So when I got into this YouTube thing and I started going to look around, it was hard for me to get into it because
Starting point is 00:41:10 culturally, and the way I was raised for some of the years, we didn't follow. We didn't, we weren't out to, you know, take photos of tracks because we saw them often enough. You know, we weren't out to capture video footage because we've seen them often. It wasn't on our to-do list. It wasn't a big deal. It was just what it was, you know? So it's been kind of a strange transition doing what I'm doing now. It's just different because culturally, the way I was raised, it's night and day difference.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Because I still talk to elders that are like, you know, they'll tell me you know better than to go look for them. You know, nothing good will come of it. And, you know, I hate their warnings, but yet I feel it's important. I feel it's a public safety issue. You know, people go out there. You know, I talk to hunters, man, that have been going to the same spot for 40-plus years, never had an issue, never heard nothing crazy, never seen nothing crazy, but one 20-minute experience, and they will never go back there again.
Starting point is 00:42:15 They've given up hunting. They won't even go out in the woods. because it's just one random encounter. And that's all it takes. And that's another thing that boggles my mind is the randomness. You can have a group of a hundred guys go to the same spot every year for their caribou. None of them have an issue. Then one year, one of them will have an issue.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Their caribou gets taken. They have a siding or whatever. And it's done for that. They no longer go hunting. You know, it's just so random in nature. it's yeah i want to address something really quick if listeners heard me have like an interesting reaction a little bit ago i just was having such just the the the the picture i had in my mind of the the hairy man imitating the baby crying the person seeing that actually happened that's just
Starting point is 00:43:08 that's something that man even if you're imagining it that i can't imagine actually seeing that in person that's not a good thing to see that no not at all she's in her late 80s now and she still she still gets an expression on her face of almost like shell shock about it you know
Starting point is 00:43:31 and that happened back in 69 you know what I mean like these okay with my channel I share people's encounters and the way I do it is the way I was raised we have an oral history
Starting point is 00:43:47 an oral tradition we don't write things down. We just pass it down, you know, verbally. And so that's why I treat the encounters. If anyone watches my channel, they know what I'm talking about. I try to bring the listener into that moment. And that's what our elders did with us, you know, whether it be, oh, caribou hunting, we were up here, we took the third slew on the right, and you go up past the very patches, you get into the scrub brush, and, you know, you'll find the caribou back over there. You know, the level of detail we were raised with when sharing information with each other was it wasn't too oh i'm going to share all the details it was life and death you know what i mean it had to be accurate information and that's why i
Starting point is 00:44:33 get upset with those who claim oral history is just that it's it's a it's fanciful it's folklore it's mythology you know that kind of that kind of crap that that that's so inaccurate uh or tradition in our oral history allowed us to live this long. I mean, Cambridge was what built in 1692, Harvard, okay, the first brick and mortar that everyone talks, you know, their education from. Well, our oral history goes back a millennia past that, you know, even further. So, you know, when the educated get this idea that, well, because they learn something in a book, therefore, has more relevance and validation
Starting point is 00:45:15 versus something that was passed on orally, I scoff at that. That's the level of arrogance that is just, I just don't, I don't go for that crap. You know what I mean? Because it's dismissive. You know, they want to call it archaic, you know, whatever. And just chalk it up to folklore, and that's not the case.
Starting point is 00:45:40 It's not the case at all. That's extremely interesting. I've never thought of it that way before, but that is that is very very cool um Fred so you mentioned earlier how there are these times in your early childhood where you you know experience things and saw things that were there times also in your as you got into adulthood where you know you had experiences that kind of cemented it into your mind uh at an older age as well oh yes several different times but Okay, let me break down for you.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Sure. We would see them at a distance on a regular basis. I'm not saying every day, but on a regular enough basis, we would see them at a distance. And usually what would happen in those occurrences would, they would either run off or scream at us and break something we would run off. And it was always at a distance. It was never like right up on us,
Starting point is 00:46:41 except for a few times in passing, but it was always just inside a vehicle, just inside a house, things like that, to where they would typically leave or we would leave. In 95, me and my cousin Spencer and a couple of the people, we were looking for woodland caribou. They're a little bigger than your standard caribou, what you would call a reindeer. And we were checking these Alpine Meadows where some locals said, hey, they mill around up there.
Starting point is 00:47:13 if you go up there and look you'll probably find one. So we wanted one. And so we're up there on foot. We had beached our skiff and we walked up this hill and they're sloping kind of like steps as we're going up to each of these little Alpine meadows. And we got up to the upper, the most upper one in this portion of basically the Wood River Mountains. And we got up to this step and it was a lot of grass. and muskeg are just the beginnings of like a probably an ancient beaver pond i would guess because of how
Starting point is 00:47:52 the land lay but it was all grass through there and there was trees off to our right hand side about 80 yards away roughly and these are black spruce so they're not very big and you know they're just you know they were there well when we get up there there was no wind and the grass was about four foot tall and so we're looking around for sign of care boot and the wind blew from behind us and started, you know, the grass moved like you would see a wave crash against the beach. You know what I mean? And this grass was moving and this one portion didn't move. It was a female, Sasquatch, and it was squatted down. And if the wind hadn't been blown, we would have never seen her. But the wind blew, we noticed and immediately she stood up because the gig was up. We saw her. She stood up. She basically had a caramel kind of dead grass color, and she was dark on the lower portion of her body. But once we saw her, she made eye contact, stood there briefly, and let out the scream as she ran from our left to our right, very fast.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Very, very fast. But her coloring was such that as soon as she hit those black spruce, she blended in the way. seamlessly like a baby duckling in the grass. You know what I mean? Just natural camouflage made it appear that she disappeared. But she was still there. You heard her crash through the trees and stuff. And she was still bellowing and screaming and running away. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. If data management is slowing down your business. You need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here, and one here, and one here.
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Starting point is 00:51:38 You just basically thought, well, at least it wasn't me, you know, kind of frame of thought. Up until 2006, I would have told you they screened, they break stuff, you leave, they throw stuff every once in a while, they may come around your house, but they eventually leave, just leave them alone. You know, that was my mindset up until 06. And what happened in 2006 is it actually started in 2004 when my uncle, he wanted to go golf prospecting. and he knew he had to get portable sluice box, you know, everything portable because, you know, we had limited capacity in a 22-foot skip, and he wanted to be a fishing. And so it took a couple seasons for him to cure all this stuff. And in 06, at the end of the fishing season, he said, this is a year. You got the time.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I said, sure do, uncle, you know, just name the time. Well, he wanted to leave September 12th, and that's my birthday. So I asked if we could leave the 13th so I could be in civilization, at least some part of civilization for my 31st birthday. You know, and he was like, okay, we'll leave the 13th. So we left Gillingham the 13th of September in 2006, and we launched from Squaw Creek, and we went up the Nushkak River. And it's roughly 248 river miles to the New Yucke River where we were going. And that was a couple days' process because my uncle was in his mid-to-late 6th. at that time and he would get cold on the water.
Starting point is 00:53:14 So we stopped in the Stuyahawk, visited with family for a day or so, and then went up river, refueled at Kalyganik, and then continued on up to the New York. And we got to the New York, September 17th. And it was a couple hours before dark. We got there. And me and my cousin, we wanted to run up and down the river real quick, just check things out. but because it was getting late and had the boat to unload, we opted to wait until the next day.
Starting point is 00:53:46 So we unload everything, and we weren't loud, we weren't boisterous, we weren't partying it up or just randomly shooting guns off in the woods or anything like that. We just unloaded the skip and went into this little salmon counting tower shack. It was 8 foot square. Everything was made with minimal cutting, because in remote Alaska, by state law, you can't have any. permanent structures. So this thing was on skids.
Starting point is 00:54:13 So it's an eight foot square. It's five-eighth plywood on two-by-four studs. Minimal construction. I mean, bare minimum is basically a dried-in shell. And on the back side of this place was a 50-style egg still kind of looking camper. You know the kind of I'm talking about, little toe behind.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Yes. The front of that had been cut off and mounted to the back side of this little shack. and all the windows were blacked out in that back portion. It was a bunk area because land of the midnight sun, it stays light out, you know, day and night. And so when you step in the door, as you come up the bank, it's about 20 feet to the front of this place. And it's about a six, seven foot climb because it's on a cut bank to get to the, you know, to the top of the bank there. and when you're looking at the place, if you're looking directly at it from the front,
Starting point is 00:55:10 the door is to the left-hand side of it. There's an old oil drum stand to the right-hand side. And again, this is only 8-foot wide. And so when you open this door, it's for MZ, it's 2-4 on 5-H plywood. All it had was this little J-hook to keep the door shut. And a little bit of an old piece of driftwood screwed into the 2-by-4 as a handle.
Starting point is 00:55:33 So when you step in, in, there's a little card table immediately to your left right there. And an 18 by 20 inch window right above it. And mirroring that window across on the other side was a little miniature sink, a little tiny sink that drained right to the outside, and another 18 by 24 inch window on that side. And then you got the little entryway dead center on the back side that went into this 50-style trailer. So we get in there.
Starting point is 00:56:04 We unload everything, and my uncle cooks for us. He made some salmon head chowder and whatnot, and we had gotten done eating. And that year, I had spent some of my fishing money on a brand new Remington 870 shotgun. It was a rifled barrel. It was going to be my slug gun, you know, just a gun for the brush. And I was real happy with it.
Starting point is 00:56:29 But the rear sight, I was trying to adjust it because I had shot it a couple times. going up river and I noticed that the site was off a little bit. So as I was doing the adjustments, at this point in time, my uncle and my cousin are playing cribbage at this little table. And we got a Coleman Laner going because it's about a half hour after dark at this point. And as we're sitting there talking, my uncle's giving us instruction on, you know, I want a couple buckets of pay dirt from over here that I want to try to sample and this and that. Because his overall goal was to basically stake a claim. And this is just south of the proposed pebble mine,
Starting point is 00:57:09 which is according to what they say, the largest gold and copper reserves in the world. Okay, so there's a reason for that because there's gold everywhere over there, right? So his idea was to basically start a gold mine, but just start small and see what we could find. What's his line of thinking? So he's given us instruction on where he,
Starting point is 00:57:32 he wants the buckets and this and that. And I'm still dinking with this rear sight. Well, as he's talking, all of a sudden, the whole place kind of shifts. It just made this creaking kind of sound, right? And so there was no wind blowing because, again, this is just a glorified box. We would have known that the wind was blowing. You know what I mean? And there was no wind blowing.
Starting point is 00:57:55 So when I look over at my cousin, where he's sitting, he's got the window behind him. And between his shoulder and the top of that window, I saw dark movement. And the way I looked over there, he jumps up and says, hey, that ain't funny. And I was like, no, no, there was movement. So we're on the salmon river, right? There was sparring outs in the rivers. We're coming up, you know. So we immediately thought there.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I mean, it was the only thing that made sense. Harryman wasn't on our mind. It had, because it was around, we just, superstition-wise, when it comes to most villagers, they don't talk about it because it could bring a bad omen. And so there's a lot of superstition involved. So it was nothing we actually openly talked about a lot of time. So he grabs a 30-odd-sixth. I got that shotgun and we had one of those million candle-wapowered, like six-volt spotlights, right? Fresh battery in it. We opened that door and to our right would be the river bank and to our left about 50 yards away would be the tree line and so immediately
Starting point is 00:59:02 I point to the side where we saw the movement well where I saw the movement there's nothing there and we beam towards our left and we're only about a step outside of this door maybe a foot and a half we're shoulder the shoulder we got guns ready we're going to scare this bear off and as I pan to the left once we hit the tree line to our left uh we come across three sets of eyeshine. And the eye shine was red. We could see these creatures. Their eyes were
Starting point is 00:59:35 huge. They reminded me of fence post markers. You know, those three inch fence post markers they were that big. And immediately like shock took over. It seemed
Starting point is 00:59:51 it was ominous. An instant feeling of dread because typically from what we've experienced before you beam a flashlight at them they kind of duck behind a tree they kind of try to hide themselves well these three didn't move they just stood there so we duck right back inside and I shut that little j-hook and what was really weird is it felt like we put on earmuffs as soon as we went and back inside and I shut that little Jehovah, it was like everything was muffled. I was talking and it's, you know, have you ever been on a plane where your ears
Starting point is 01:00:33 haven't fully popped so the person sitting next to you sounds like, you know, they're right there, but they sound kind of far away. Oh, yeah. It was that kind of feeling. And so I'm talking and I'm talking to my cousin. I was like, and as I'm talking to my cousin about you saw what I saw right and I told my uncle, there's a Harryman out there. There's three of them.
Starting point is 01:00:52 as I'm saying that within a moment my cousin's on my left shoulder and he's holding the barrel of that 30 out six with his hands kind of like just down he had the butt of the gun down between his feet I just set the spotlight down and I'm holding that shotgun in my left hand
Starting point is 01:01:11 kind of off-handed trying to discuss what we're seeing and all of a sudden my cousin is bam underneath that card table had a death grip on that barrel and he's kind of moving his arms up and down like he was turning butter a little bit and he had wet himself
Starting point is 01:01:29 and was just kind of not riding around but kind of twitchy a little bit and he's looking towards the opposite side towards that window but me and my uncle look at each other we look down at him we look back at each other and we realize he's looking across the little room to that other
Starting point is 01:01:51 by the sink. So I'm literally about three feet from this window. And we both turn at the same time. And once I made eye contact with this, once my eyes made contact with this thing, I could tell it was looking at my cousin, but as soon as I was looking at it, it turned its gaze at me and furled its brow.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I only saw from the bottom of its nose to the top of its eyebrow in that 18-knit space. it had ash gray skin its eyes were like black translucent marbles there was a slight glow to him from the Coleman lantern but it wasn't like a
Starting point is 01:02:32 full on eye shine it was a little dulled down within two milliseconds I immediately knew what it felt like to be prey I knew what it felt like to be the rabbit in the hole
Starting point is 01:02:50 with the wolf outside. It wasn't no mind speak. It was in the air. It was something about the energy in the air was that of death. Like, you know, and the way it looked at me and furl this brow to kind of like glare right at me within milliseconds. It's taken way longer to explain it than how it happened because I turned. It gave me that look and it started moving out of view of the way of the way of the way of the way. window towards my right and I just shot through the wall right there three times with that shotgun
Starting point is 01:03:25 and what was weird is is I discharged a shotgun in the small room and there was no ringing of the ears it just sounded like a thump bump bump because of that pressure that and this pressure I'm referring to it it stayed the whole time during this whole encounter so it was constant it didn't vary. It didn't get less or heavier. It was a constant. So I shoot the three times and immediately there is a scream and a simultaneous shift of this place. And, you know, I thought it was going to push us in the river. Just, I mean, we're less than 20 feet from the bank. You know, I really thought we're going in the river. But there's a scream that was so loud, it shook everything in there that pot that the stew was made in. It rang like a tuning fork from the screen.
Starting point is 01:04:17 The lantern was swinging. It almost took me off my feet. And everything went quiet. There was no more sound. My cousin wasn't responding. My uncle said a couple things, but he basically went and sat in the bunk room there. And I'm freaking out.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I was yelling at them to help me. I was, I felt all alone. And I'm amongst some of the, most hardcore subsistence hunters that I have ever known, you know. My cousin, for example, he was shoulder to shoulder with me with a charging sow, you know, over 800-pound female brown bear charging us. He stood his ground. And to see him, he had wet himself, he's babbling underneath the table, and my uncle isn't engaging me.
Starting point is 01:05:18 and so I knew it wasn't over. Like something within me, I knew we couldn't just, oh, okay, let's call it a night, start fresh in the morning kind of thing because that wasn't what was happening. The energy was very ominous. It was dead quiet. So what I ended up doing was I slid one of the chairs over by that stupid little flimsy door for whatever good that would do. And I took the other chair and I put it right at the opening of that little cup.
Starting point is 01:05:53 and I basically sat there in that chair, listening to that Coleman Lantern hiss. I don't know if you've ever dealt with them in the white gas Coleman Lantern. You got to pump them every once in a while. We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here, you need the Intuit. If scaling your business feels like start starting a starting starting starting over, you need the Intuit ERP.
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Starting point is 01:07:45 I sat there for, gosh, it had to have been five, six hours, uh, periodically asking for help. The only reason I was able to stop shaking, like uncontrollably, was I resigned myself to death. I had to literally, I'm a dead man. I had to accept it. And that was the only way I could rationally think. I staged a bunch of ammo. I tried to get the 30 out six for my cousin, but it was loaded.
Starting point is 01:08:22 and he wasn't letting go. He still wasn't responding. He was still in La La Land. And my uncle was basically shut down. He wasn't saying much. He had his Bible. He was being quiet. He had basically no advice to offer in.
Starting point is 01:08:41 He wasn't engaging whatsoever. And so I sat there pumping that lantern every once in a while. I was gripping that shotgun so hard. that it hurts my hands. I would have to let go and shake life back in my hands because in my hands, I was gripping it so hard. And, you know, when a moth would hit the window, oh, my God, there were several times,
Starting point is 01:09:11 I almost switched cheese that place from the inside out, just when a moth hit in the window. There was moments of time where I was just screaming out loud, you know, F and come get me, you know, various things just, it was rough. Because I was there with two other people I loved, but no one was helping me, you know. And so, and I'm guesstimating because I was in fits of terror, you know, so the time frame of how long I sat there without my cousin responding, I'm guessing five to six hours, give or take, because again, I wasn't fully in my right mind, but I knew in my heart of hearts I couldn't just go lay down and call it a night.
Starting point is 01:10:01 I just shot this thing through the wall, and I don't know what else is coming, you know. We saw the three sets eyes shine. This one was looking at the window at us. So I knew it was going on. Whatever was happening was happening, and it's going to be what it's going to be kind of thing. thing. Once my cousin did start coming out of his stupor, and it took a while, because he was incoherent, he was babbling stuff, stuff that made no sense, gibberish. But once he was back more to himself, and I got him talking, we got him changed, and I got him calm down and up,
Starting point is 01:10:44 you know, by reassuring him, I shot it, man, it ran away. I shot it, it's gone. And, you know, that helped, it brought peace and calm to him a little bit, but we were still in the middle of it, you know? And I asked him, I was like, what did you see? And once he pulled himself together, he told me that it showed him his teeth. And from what he said, when he was standing next to me and I was talking, he looked out that window and there was enough of the light from the lantern that he saw it. It was a little further away from the window. and it showed his teeth and his body shut down. And he said when he was under the table looking,
Starting point is 01:11:25 he was trying to tell us, but nothing would come out. He was just seizing up, basically. But that's when it came in closer to the window. And that's when we turned and I saw it. And so we realized we need to get out of there. It was not going to, you know, we didn't want to be there. It was all bad.
Starting point is 01:11:49 So we came up with a game plan. We were going to make it to the skiff, which is 25 feet away. You know, it seemed like 10 miles away at the time, but it was literally just not very far. And we were going to drift out of there until we got further downriver because it was pitch black. You know, there was no way to fire up the outboard and safely navigate the river. You know, there's too many deadfall trees. There's rocks. There's all sorts of things that could go wrong on that.
Starting point is 01:12:16 So we were going to use the spotlight, our initial plan. to basically keep ourselves going, you know, downstream and, you know, use the oars to kind of steer or whatever. That was our initial plan. And so we're sitting there quiet for a while. And as we're getting up because it was so quiet, we were getting more brave. We were getting more courage to make this move. And my cousin brings up, let's use the spotlight and see if there's anything outside we can see. so we shut up the lantern because it was creating a mirrored effect inside.
Starting point is 01:12:53 You know what I mean? And so with it being pitch black outside, the light inside just made the windows look like mirrors. So we killed that and we beamed out the river side first. And we took a really good look. We saw nothing on that side. And believe me, we were really, really looking. And so we went to the other side and we started at the point. we saw the preset to eyeshine and we're beaming and we see nothing.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I mean, there's nothing. It's quiet, dead quiet. And this beam, this spotlight had a fresh battery. So it's not like, you know, it didn't have the candela. It was bright. And we beam in their kitty corner off the back side of this shack about 40 feet. There's this old outhouse that long out of use. But it was about eight, eight and a half foot tall.
Starting point is 01:13:46 It was built with minimal cuts and it had a one-sided roof, but at its highest point, it was about eight, eight and a half feet tall. Once we beam back to that point, we noticed this big hulking silhouette behind it. It wasn't immediately behind it. It was kind of backed a little bit from it. But this silhouette was every bit of 13 to 14 foot tall. It was hulking, five, five and a half foot wide. pitch black the creepiest thing
Starting point is 01:14:18 its size was immense but it was absorbing the light it was giving nothing back no eyes shine even a black bear if you beam it with a flashlight at night it has kind of like that silky kind of chrome copper
Starting point is 01:14:31 you know kind of reflection to its to his hide this gave nothing it was like it was absorbing all the light it was like a big black nothing there for us so it started moving a little bit towards our right. We immediately killed that spotlight and we're all
Starting point is 01:14:49 took back into that little cubby, pitch black. We were freaking out. I know we had the barrels cross because I kept hearing the barrel of my shotgun budding against the barrel of the 30-odd-6. And we stayed like that for gosh quite a while. Again, just dead quiet. All we saw was that missing holking figure and we hit and we heard nothing. So after a while, being dead quiet, we started reformulating our game plan. And as we're going over it and stuff, often in the near distance, it sounded like a rotor wash from helicopter, that thump, bump, pump, thump sound. well we started feeling it in the ground
Starting point is 01:15:40 and what it was was one of these things running by the shack and as soon as it ran by because we felt it in the ground and as soon as it ran by it was like other ones were surrounding the place and they started running around as well I don't know if they were trying
Starting point is 01:15:59 to draw our fire or see if we were going to shoot again or just outright terrorize us I don't know but they ran around and then they would, it seemed like they would back off, and then they would do it again. And this, this continued, gosh, in the moment it seemed like about roughly 15 minutes, give or take, because we were white knuckle terror listening to this. And at one point, as the running was going on, it sounded like one of them was sniffing the little trailer attachment to the chat.
Starting point is 01:16:36 And it's hard to express the level of sheer terror. Like we were stuck, you know. And again, you know, one of my driving forces or factors that, you know, propel me forward to share people's encounters is they had us dead to rights. They could have smashed that place to nothing in a heartbeat, snatched us out of there, but yet they didn't. They could have, but they didn't. Anyway, just something that dwells on my mind a lot when I think about it is what they could have done, yet they didn't.
Starting point is 01:17:18 But anyway, so that goes on for a little while, and then they back off and it gets quiet. Like super quiet again. And again, I don't know exactly how much time transpired, but it was starting to get the first glimmers of it getting lighter outside. and with it being quiet for so long, again, we were getting our courage up. We had our game plan down. And it dawned on me at that point that we drugged the anchor and bowline from that skiff 50 to 70 yards. It was a long bowline because that skip was used for a set net site.
Starting point is 01:18:01 And so your anchor had to be long enough to hook the bottom and still not get swamped when my tie came in, right? So we had taken that anchor when we first got there and drug it back over onto the tundra and dug it into the tundra. So we're basically tethered into the place. And luckily, just 10 foot of that bow line was chain. And then it went to a regular rope. And so I told my cousin, you know, when you go first, you're going to have to cut that
Starting point is 01:18:29 bowel line. And I'll make sure that, you know, your dad falls behind me. and I'll keep a guard while you start the outboard and all that stuff, right? That was our game plan. And so we're sitting there and we're just getting our courage up because it's getting lighter out. And all of a sudden, that same side of the wall that the door's on, the front side, it sounded like a pellet gun shooting it. At first it was just a thap sound, right?
Starting point is 01:19:00 And then the cadence increased and then all of a sudden it was like a hail storm against that side. So again, immediately we retreated back into that cubby. Daryl crossed again. Like what it was like every time we were getting up the gumption to make a break for it, it was almost like they sensed it and they would do something to terrorize us. I felt toyed with. I really felt like cat and mouse. And so that still bothers me to this day.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Anyway, so we're in this cubby and we're all being quiet. and after it's quiet for a while, we start whispering because it's getting a lighter outside. And we sat there to where it was light enough where we could easily see the tree line. We couldn't really see any of the trees too much because it was still silhouetted. But there was enough daylight to where we could see the open ground. And with it being so quiet for so long after that, we got our courage up. And so my cousin's in front of me. I'm in the middle.
Starting point is 01:20:05 and my elders behind me. And I have the 30-od six at this point. My cousin has his shot gun. And I have my uncle's 30-odd, his 12-gauge old wingmaster, big old long goose gun. It was a 12-gauge. But I had that slung over my shoulder for more rounds if I needed him. Because he was in his 60s, he wasn't embollent, but he wasn't spry. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:20:32 He kind of walked with a little bit of a hobble. So, you know, I wanted to make sure I had enough firepower on me as possible. So it's quiet. And so, you know, it's go time. So he has my pocket knife. He has to cut that bow line and jump in the skip and start it. That was our game plan. So we kicked the door open and boom, we're at the edge of the bank in no time.
Starting point is 01:20:55 My cousin immediately jumps down. I stopped paying attention to him because my uncle's behind me. And it's a six, seven foot drop. on a cut bank. So the dew on the grass and everything was a little slippery. So I had to help him get his footing so he could make it down the bank safely and not just topple over. And the way I positioned myself with his shotgun on my back, the shotgun was kind of pushing me forward, the way I knelt down. So I scoot back about four to six inches maybe before I stood up to wait for my turn to get down this bank. And as I get up to full standing height,
Starting point is 01:21:33 this rock a little bigger than a basketball whizzed by the front of my face. Had I not scoot it back and I just stood up from where I was, we wouldn't have this conversation, man. As soon as that rock whizzed by in front of my face, everything went slow motion and my eyes locked on that rock. And it impacted about a part of the river that was about roughly three feet deep, fast moving water. It impacted so hard that rock, hit the bottom and sounded like the shotgun blast before the water could close over it.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I mean, pow! And as soon as I heard that sound, it was like those earmuffs came off and I could hear clearly again. Everything was still quasi-slow motion, but I turned the direction the rock came from. No. This thing was coming out of the tree line
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Starting point is 01:24:16 It was like, anyway, I turned and that big black silhouette was coming out of the tree line. It still wasn't giving anything back. I could tell it was moving, but it was like it was gliding. And immediately with that 30-od six, I put three rounds center mass. Bam, bam, bam. And I heard the bullets impact this thing. Now, this 30-od-6 is a powerful rifle. Anyone who's hunted knows, we use the same rifle to kill walrus, bear, moose,
Starting point is 01:24:53 everything we've come up against with that rifle, we've killed it. This thing took all three rounds, and it didn't flinch or nothing. It just stopped moving forward. It just stopped. It didn't buckle nothing. Well, once I put those three rounds on it and they didn't do anything, I was getting this tunnel vision going on from the shot. Everything was kind of closing in.
Starting point is 01:25:18 And I turned around. I jumped down because at this point, my uncle's making his way into the skiff. And the bowline wasn't cut. My cousin got the motor running, but he didn't cut the bowline. So I'm yelling at him. Throw me the knife. Throw me the knife. He throws a knife.
Starting point is 01:25:36 I set the 30 out six into the bow of the skip, and I'm cutting that line. And I'm telling him, idle down, idle down because he had it. The idle too high to shift gears, right? And, of course, it was cold, and he could only do so much. But, you know, it was a tense moment. We're kind of yelling back and forth. And as I cut the bowline, and I'm putting a chain,
Starting point is 01:25:56 and my uncle's kind of got his butt on the edge, and he's kind of turning to shimmy in. I shoved him in. I felt bad later because it bruised his wrist pretty bad, but I shoved him in. And when I jumped down, I noticed that my cousin had dropped my shotgun right there on the beach on this little small landing where we had the skip purchase.
Starting point is 01:26:18 And so in my mind's eye, I was going to grab my shotgun. I don't know why. I never got an answer to why he dropped my shotgun on the little beach there. But anyway, so I shoved my uncle in. I'm thinking I'm going to grab that shotgun. and the chain was hanging a little more, so I dumped the rest of the chain in there.
Starting point is 01:26:35 And as I'm looking at him, and I'm still yelling at him to idle down, and he idles down and it shifts, right? And all of a sudden, his eyes get real big. My uncle, when he landed, he turned around and was looking back towards the direction of the bank. And they're both looking over my shoulder up at the bank.
Starting point is 01:26:55 And I turn around, and as I'm looking up, I saw just up to about mid-shin before I realized this thing is towering over me. And I push off from the shore. And he kicks it in gear out of reverse. And we start getting up on step to get out of there. And when we were leaving, he was kind of swaying the skips back and forth. And I thought he was just trying to get up on step. I thought he was trying to break the friction of the water to get up on step, you know, a little sooner.
Starting point is 01:27:25 but what I found out many years later was he wasn't doing it to get on step. He was doing it to avoid the rocks that they were throwing at the outboard. One rock hit the transom so hard it left a partial puncture hole in the transoms. And, you know, we skipped on out of there. And it wasn't, gosh,
Starting point is 01:27:50 I was in the bow, and I'm still having this fit of everything closing in kind of tunnel vision. and I'm looking for the 220 grain bullets for the 30-od six that we typically would use for bear. And what was in it was 180 grain, Corlock soft tips, you know, the deadliest mushroom in the woods up until that point anyway. And we, I mean, that's basically where the encounter ended. when we got down to where the Newyakuk and the confluence of the Nushegak River met, we finally took a minute to take a breather.
Starting point is 01:28:31 And immediately I felt like I weighed a thousand pounds, man, from up all night with the tense muscles and everything, and finally feeling like we got away. I felt like I weighed a thousand pounds. And that trip ruined our relationship because when we got back to the village, anyone with a pair of ears, I was telling them, hey, you know, they tried to get us. You know, my uncle and cousin were there. You know, I was telling anyone who would listen. And my uncle was in a position at that time.
Starting point is 01:29:13 where he didn't want it made public because of this particular position he had. And I pushed the issue. I inadvertently kind of did no good to our relationship either by pressing it so hard. But because of what had happened, I wanted to tell everybody, watch out that they tried to get us. You know what I mean? and they were more wanting to just keep it hush-hush and leave it where it was. And because of what we went through, I just couldn't not tell somebody and warn them.
Starting point is 01:29:53 You know, and it ruined our relationship. I was never able to fully make amends with my uncle. He's since passed. And my cousin that was with us, I talked to him once. And I went over the encounter of what I remember. of it with them and I asked him, am I leaving anything out? And that's when he told me that they're throwing rocks at the outboard. But in, out of 17 years, we had one 15 minute conversation since that incident.
Starting point is 01:30:32 That is, that's incredible, Fred. And thank you for putting yourself back. And that must, is that hard to retell that? I mean, that's. I can't imagine. Sometimes it doesn't bother me at all. And other times I get caught in the emotion of it because it ruined my relationship with my family.
Starting point is 01:31:00 We were thick as thieves, man. We were three peas in the pod. Us three were always the ones on an adventure. Like always. It was us three were the main ones that if there was an adventure to be had, we were on it. And since 06,
Starting point is 01:31:18 that all went away. Do you blame those creatures for having a relationship with your relatives ruined? I can't blame them. I blame
Starting point is 01:31:38 the high stress and their unwillingness to like collaborate or basically back me up. You know what I mean? Because I felt in that moment it was going on,
Starting point is 01:31:58 I was by myself because my cousin was under the table. My uncle wasn't responsive. So it was just a further continuation of that when we got back to the village. You know, I was told I was a crazy drunk. I was told, oh, you're just making it up for attention. Like, why would I make that up for some attention? You know, I mean, I gained nothing from that.
Starting point is 01:32:19 You know what I mean? I gain nothing. I lost so much. I have gained nothing from it. Have you ever been back to that area or do you never go back there? No, I want to go back. I want to film a documentary and the documentary I want to do is going to be a cultural thing with just Native peoples on how our oral history from the past kind of meets up.
Starting point is 01:32:49 with the present, that type of thing. I haven't fully worked it out, but that place is going to be the pinnacle of that documentary. You know what I mean? That it's going to revolve around that spot. But logistically, it is a nightmare to get there. It was expensive for us, and we lived in Dillingham. You know what I mean? So for me to go from where I'm at now back to Dillingham for the same price, I could go to Hawaii twice.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Wow. That's wild, man. Yeah. So it's a logistical thing. And I sure ain't gone by myself. I need to bring some qualified people. Not that my relatives weren't. They were the most qualified I could think of even to this day that I know personally.
Starting point is 01:33:46 but everyone's different, you know. I wasn't a hero. In that moment, when I made eye contact with that thing, man, I wasn't going, oh, I'm going to shoot now. I'm going to protect us. No, it was get off me. Get off me. It was nothing heroic.
Starting point is 01:34:06 It was self-preservation. In that moment, when I started shooting through the wall initially, my uncle and cousin didn't even exist in my mind in that moment. It was such a shock to my system. It was like every fiber of my being wanted to flee, but it was stuck in my skin. It was like an electrical charge, like just a shock. It's probably one of the most intense, I would say it is the most intense encounter I've ever heard, Fred. That is incredible that you guys actually survived that.
Starting point is 01:34:46 and thankfully you did. Man. Oh, yeah, and that's another reason I had the channel. I also have a website, subartic-alaska Sasquatch.com. I have an interactive map of Alaska, and you can zoom in on an area, and there's marker pins. And if you touch the marker pin, it's, or you click on it, it's embedded with my YouTube channel. So it'll bring up the encounter video from that area. So fellow Alaskans are people traveling here can
Starting point is 01:35:17 Let's say they're going to Keynight Peninsula They're going to be by ski lake, let's say just as an example They could zoom in on the map, see the ski lake, touch a pin And they could hear and encounter someone that had from that area Not to scare them away, but to make them aware It's like bear-aware science, be aware of the bear You know, it frustrates me that so many people have these encounters but yet it's treated like, oh, they're making up a story for attention.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Man, no one needs this kind of attention. You know what I mean? It's not a badge of honor. But what drives me is no one asked for it. No one asked to be accosted by this big thing out in the woods when they're doing their day-to-day. No one asks for that. You know what I mean? And so I'm biased, though.
Starting point is 01:36:07 I don't trust them for nothing. and when I hear what I consider fanciful, happy-go-lucky stories about my forest friend, I ain't my friend. I could never be comfortable with one near me ever again. And I can't honestly say that if one wasn't near me, I wouldn't just open fire on it. But that's my own personal bias. And so I need that out. of the encounters I share from people.
Starting point is 01:36:42 I just share what they shared with me. I don't put a spin on it. I just, I give what I was given. You know what I mean? And I leave my personal bias out of it. There is a guy, Dan,
Starting point is 01:36:54 he shared an experience where he was rescued by a female near the Gold Canter River back when he was 10. And I asked him, I was like, man, that's pretty cool. I haven't heard anything positive. So, you know, how did you feel? and his words were, I felt like they were trying to get rid of me because of the search and rescue efforts. They had helicopters, small planes, you know, the troopers out in mass looking for him.
Starting point is 01:37:20 And he said he didn't feel good about it. He felt like they're getting rid of the nuisance versus really being helpful. Wow. This has been an incredible conversation, Fred. as we start to head towards the end of our time together. Do you have any words for people that might be thinking, you know, I'm going to go out and I'm going to find a big foot this weekend. Do you have any words of advice of how they should maybe change their thinking a little bit?
Starting point is 01:38:03 I would say be careful of what you wish for. And it's not going to be what you think. It's not going to be a harmonious, whatever may be going through your mind. Don't go in naive. They're not our, now this is my opinion. They're not our forest friends. And I can only speak for Alaska because I know it's different. down in the States there's a different level of aggression.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Just be careful what you wish for. You don't want what you think you do. You really don't. There's a level of understanding that you're lacking and you don't want that. Nothing good is going to come over. There's so many people that have had encounters who had camera in their hand and did nothing with the camera they were so in shot if you have a weak heart be prepared because you may need a defib it's not what you think it's going to be it's not going to be
Starting point is 01:39:24 that exciting oh yay moment no it is life altering terrifying some wise words from someone who has had multiple encounters themselves. Fred, thank you so much for coming on and sharing what has happened to you. Do you mind taking a few more minutes and sharing with people how they can keep up to date
Starting point is 01:39:50 with subarctic Alaska Sasquatch and what's the best way to do that? Yeah, I mean, I have a couple email accounts that could easily be found in the description of the channel. I leave my phone number and, you know, people can contact me that way.
Starting point is 01:40:10 During daylight hours, Alaska, if you're on the East Coast, I'm four hours behind. So, you know, wherever you may be, just keep that in mind. I've gotten calls at, you know, three in the morning and it's 7 a.m., someone's having their coffee and they're waking me up, you know, just to ask some questions. I don't mind the questions. I put my number out there for a reason. But I'm easy to find, man. I'm really not hard. you know, Alaskan Harryman Project at gmail.com or NoCompt 907 at Gmail.com or, you know, my phone number, which is listed in the opening of my most current video. So I'm easy to find. And I upload content when I can. I live in Alaska. So I'm in winter prep mode. And, you know, I got background stuff going on. But I'm very easy to find. You know, I'm very easy to find. You know,
Starting point is 01:41:06 if an 80-something-year-old woman in New Orleans can find me, then anyone can. There you go, man. It is incredible, the type of people that find people like us. I totally agree with that. But we appreciate it. And Fred, thank you so much for coming on. I hope to be talking to you again sometime in the future. But keep doing what you're doing, man.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Yeah, I appreciate it, man. And thanks for having me on. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed,
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Starting point is 01:43:36 Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now I feel so bad about it. Who cares with anybody's things? I know what I saw. I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know.
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Starting point is 01:50:09 This is Danielle Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. As cat parents, Ryder and I know the feeling of being ignored by our cats. I often wonder, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that, Shiba. Feed your cat Shiba and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days, guaranteed, or your money back. Sheba has so many incredible products that can satisfy even the pickiest eater. Like new Shiba grilled, made in the USA with the finest ingredients from around the world.
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