Bigfoot Society - Family Cabin Showdown! |Archives | West Virginia

Episode Date: January 11, 2025

Originally released as Episodes 373 and 375.In this gripping episode, host Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society podcast sits down with Will, a long-time listener from Virginia, as he recounts the spine-chilling experiences that he and his uncle faced during their summer trips to a secluded cabin in West Virginia. From hearing unexplained footsteps and having strange encounters with unseen creatures, to finding massive footprints and dealing with nightly disturbances, Will's story provides an intense look at what might be lurking in the woods. In the second half of the episode, Don shares his harrowing account from Eastern Tennessee, where a seemingly peaceful getaway with his fiancée turned into a night of terror. Don describes hearing enormous footsteps, unsettling tapping on the cabin, and even witnessing large, shadowy figures. These extraordinary encounters drove them to the brink, confirming their suspicions that something unexplainable was indeed out there. Join us as we dive deep into these phenomenal encounters, and explore the mysteries that leave both Will and Don questioning reality to this day.🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, we've got the privilege of talking to Will tonight. He's a listener that reached out to me from Virginia and he's had quite a few things happen to him over the years. But how's it going tonight, Will? It's going all right. I'm just glad to finally being able to let this off my chest.

Absolutely. You were talking to me before the interview and you said you've been listening almost since the very beginning of the podcast and I appreciate that. That's pretty cool. It's crazy to think it's almost going on five years. But you had sent me an email and you've had some really interesting things happen. I'm excited to hear your story and then maybe ask some questions. But I'm going to go ahead and give the reins over to you will. and any context our listeners need to know, feel free to go ahead and start sharing your story.

Okay, sounds good. I am originally from the state of New York. My mom's side of the family is from West Virginia where this is pretty much all started from. As a little kid, since the show Finding Bigfoot had came out, it really sparked my interest. And I knew I was like, hey, grandma and grandpa, they have a cabin in West Virginia. It's in the middle of nowhere. I was about 12 years old. bugged my uncle so many times. I'm like, take me up to the cabin. Let's go Bigfoot hunting. Let's go Bigfoot hunting. He finally said, okay, all right, let's do it. So after watching Finding Bigfoot, being a kid, I was like, I want to do everything they do from call blasting to setting up trail cameras and things of that nature. So nothing really happened our first time when I went out when I was 12, but we would spend a solid week up at the cabin at a time during the middle of summer break. Everything really started kicking off. when I was 13 years old. And I don't know, it's hard to imagine experiencing things at such a young age

that everybody in my life had always told me, oh, that's fake, that's make-believe, that's not real, you're crazy, to then being like, huh, I saw this, and you all tell me it's fake, but it's flesh and blood and I saw it with my own two eyes. So the first thing that had happened, was me and him got up to the cabin. It was just a normal kind of hot day in West Virginia. We unloaded a bunch of stuff. And my uncle had this big Bluetooth speaker and we were going to do

call blasting. So we had stayed up pretty late, probably about 1 or 2 o'clock in the morning, just blasting calls off the front porch of the cabin. We really didn't hear too much, nothing out of the ordinary. The first night we were there. And the second night, we decided, hey let's go camping we'll set up a trail camera we camped around the property that night that's when things started more peaking and popping off i don't know if it's because where they how the cabin was set up that things didn't really want to go around it my uncle had these ideas let's do wood knocks that night which was the second night we were there he started popping off wood knocks on the tree everything was pretty quiet to start and he had gotten up

and sorry Jeremiah this is it's just a lot to think back on and finally be able to talk to he had gotten up to use the bathroom and I heard him get up and it wasn't nothing out of the ordinary for him to get up and hear somebody walk away he came walking back I heard him get back in his tent and it was probably good 20 minutes later being young in the middle of the woods it's hard to go back to sleep have to hear somebody get up and I had known that he was laying down and all of a sudden it just sounded like something on two feet was just pacing around where we were camping at and I tried to wake him up and I didn't really want to yell or anything and I was creaking out and I was like hey wake up and I didn't get any response out of him

and eventually on that night I just heard whatever it was it just walked away and I had I finally had fallen back asleep and I woke up in the morning and I ran up, woke My uncle, I'm like, did you hear what's going on last night? Did you hear that? And he's just like, no. I was like, dude, something's completely walking around our camp. He's like, okay, take me to where you think you heard it walking around. And we got up that morning and we walked around.

And we actually had found a pretty deep indental footprint. And I still wish that I spoke with this uncle who he's taking you up there, but we really don't talk much anymore. All these other things that I'm going to talk, ramble on about. He had all these pictures on his phone of the stuff that we had. had found and seen and stuff. But he had a picture of the footprint, and the only kind of crappy part was there was only one that we could really find.

Then during the day we had went back to the cabin, and we were talking about it. We were both excited, but at the same time, he wore a size 13 boot, and it was bigger than his boot, and I looked at him. My uncle's not the type of guy to get nervous, but he was just like, he was always on the spectrum of, I don't know if this thing's real. This thing is probably real. That night, we had gotten back to the cabin. Nothing really took too much place during that time, during that trip.

Other than I just heard something just pacing around us, and we kicked it back at the cabin. For the rest of the couple days, we stayed up there. It was a lot of things let in let up to me not going back to the cabin, which I haven't been back to that cabin since I was 16. and I refused to go back. But anyway, so the next summer that we went up there, this is when things started to get a lot more uppity with activity. And it was just, it was a lot more rampant. I don't know if, I just, I don't know.

It was just got a lot different. During that summer when I was 14, we always went up to the cabin at the same time. And during this time, things just got more intense. So we got up there the first. night it was pretty quiet but the second night we started just cooking over and open fire and we were just hanging out being loud and rowdy the sun started to go down a little bit we always cooked over the open fire when we were there because we didn't have a grill or anything up to the

cabin and it has the tin roof so we started hearing just like little tings off the tin roof and it sounded like something was throwing rocks and he looked at me and I looked at him and I was like huh I took a rock and I threw it back up there and then it just started progressively getting louder. It wasn't like repetitive. It was like ting. It was like you hear like ting and then it'd be like three or four seconds, pause. And then you hear like another ting. And that's when it was just completely out of the ordinary.

We both looked at each other and we're like, that's not natural. What would be up on the side of this mountain just throwing things in it, perfectly hitting this roof? Now, I say it's a cabin, but it was just really one of those big double. wide trailers, but it was on the nicer end. And I started throwing rocks back after we would hear rocks. And all of a sudden, it was just like this, bam on the top of the roof. And you saw this massive rock, almost the size of a basketball just roll and just smack on the ground in front of us. And we both looked at each other and we were like, what is that? And he says, stop throwing rocks up there, stop throwing rocks up there. This isn't a good idea. So we got the food off the fire and we just

went back in the house. And I'm getting chills even talking about this. It was just like, what is going on? And so sun went down and we were getting ready for bed. My uncle's, let's not go outside tonight. I was a little bit on the, a little bit on the shakier side after that happened because I just wasn't expecting that to happen, just literally a rock the size of a basketball, smashing off those roof. So it came out, it was about 10, 30, 11 o'clock at night. My uncle had went to bed. So it was a one bedroom. And then I would sleep in the living room. And how the living room was set up was you'd walk through the door and we had a futon

against the wall. And then against the other wall, there was another futon. But there was a window where when I laid down, I could look up out the window and there was a window in front of me. So that night, I was just, I finally had fallen asleep. And all of a sudden, I just heard something loud, just pacing and not even pacing. I don't want to say it was pacing, but just circling. And it was loud footsteps.

and it made my heart start beating through my chest. And I was just like, okay? I was like, maybe I'm hearing things. And I would just try to keep myself calm until I heard it come around the side of the cabin. And I could tell this thing was on two feet. And I heard step on the bottom of the deck. And the step had the steps went up. There was five steps and you'd reach the top of the deck.

I heard step and I, you heard the wood. And I'm just sitting there shaking. I'm like, oh, I'm like, what is this? What's going on? Am I dreaming? But no, I was 100% awake and my heart was pounding through my chest. And I could hear just these really deep breathing. And it was just almost like a grunting.

It was just something like I have never heard of in my life. And I'm sitting there and I'm freaking out. And I hear this thing take another step. And I'm like, let's go into the door. And I heard another step. And then I could hear this breathing and this grunting still because it was only like 10 to 15 feet from the edge of the deck to the front of the door. And I had sat up a little bit and I'm like, please don't come through the door. Please don't come through the door.

And I don't know if I really should be saying this, but any time we went up to the cabinet, you're in the middle of nowhere. So my uncle would always give me a little sidearm and he would always carry a sidearm. Because God forbid, you don't know if you run into something. You're in the middle of nowhere. I can go out to pee and there could be a mountain line outside. just out of context. So I hear this thing at the door, and I just hear, it sounded like it grabbed the door handle, and it just jiggled a little bit.

So I laid up, and I had this sidearm on my chest, and I was sitting there, I'm like, please don't come through the door. I don't, we're going to die if this thing comes to the door. I'm hyperventilating. I hear the door jingle, and then it stopped. And I just heard, like a smack, like it jumped off the other side of the deck. And I just heard it pacing off into the woods. and at that time I had noticed that my uncle had woken up and he came running down the hallway.

So I don't know if he had started this thing when he came flying down the hallway or if it was just curious and just wanted. We only went up there for a week in the summer and two weeks during hunting season. So I honestly don't know what was going on. And we woke up that next morning. And again, but this time we were able to see a footstep. and then it was like a five to six foot stride into another footstep. And then off the other side of the deck, we were able to get three footsteps to where it jumped off the other side of the deck.

You could see where it hit the ground with one foot, another foot, and then straight into the woods. And I just, that really still eats at me to this day. I still, sometimes if it clicks in my mind in night, I still have trouble trying to sleep. And then this is hard, some of this is hard to talk about. And then the following night, me and my uncle decided to stay up. We decided to stay up until one or two o'clock in the morning.

I can't remember. And we sat on that deck and he had his AR-15 and we just waited because it freaked him out just as bad as it freaked me out, I think. And then that trip up to the cabin, we cut short. We only wanted up staying for three days. And my uncle doesn't, he wouldn't even talk about a lot of this stuff to this day. I don't know if it freaked him out that bad. but it took me a lot of convincing. We went up there one more time,

and this was the last time that we ever went up there. Me, I don't know if he's ever been back up there. I know my grandparents were trying to sell the property, and they've been trying to sell it for years now. So the third time, which was the last time, we went up there, which was the following year, it's just like everything. I don't know if we pissed this thing off by going up there.

I don't know if they migrate through this area at this time of year. year, but this time everything just went absolutely like bonkers off the wall. So there's a long driveway to get up to where the cabin is and in the middle of the road. And I wish I still, like I said, I had these pictures. I might be able to get him and email him to you. There was a tree branch broken off, snapped off perfectly healthy tree. And this branch was really wide and it was placed right in the middle of the driveway to go up to the cabin. And my uncle looked at me when we saw that. I was just like, we're already here. It's an hour and 20 minute drive from the house. We both enjoy going up here other than the stuff that happens. We used to have good time going up there. I said,

let's just try to stay a couple days of things. If we get freaked out, we'll just go home. And he's all right. That's a good idea. So we moved this tree branch out of the road. And just instantly, when we got up to the cabin, I just got this. feeling that something or something is just there. And I can't express this feeling and I didn't want to say anything to him. And we got everything packed in the house and we decided to, all right, we'll stay the night. So the first night, we just did our normal thing. We went outside. We cooked dinner. Nothing happened. Nothing hit in the house or anything crazy. And so the first night, we kept everything pretty calm. The second night, same thing. We just went hiking. We hung out around

the cabin. We just made a bunch of noise, cooked food, hung out, nothing too crazy. And then the third night, we were sitting outside on the deck. And it was probably 11, 12 o'clock at night. I just got this boneheaded idea. I'm like, we came up here to go Bigfoot hunting and we both enjoyed being up here. I said, I'm just going to do a whoop. I said, I just want to see if anything's around. So I whooped, and then I looped again. And then I waited another 30 seconds and I whooped. And we both sat down. I was like, you really think that's going to work? Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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Talk to your doctor or pharmacist today, sponsored by GSK. And I said, let's just see, because I'm addicted to being a big foot nut. And about 20 minutes later, we heard a wood knock. And it was off in the distance. It wasn't nothing like super close. And I looked at him, he looked at me, and I was just like, okay. So I whooped again. And then 10 seconds later, you heard a whoop, but it was off to our.

right and the wood knock it came from the left and he looked at me and i was just like okay whatever so i wooked again but i whooped three times again this time and then this thing imitated because i paused three to four seconds in between my whoops it wooked again but it wooped the same whoop I did and then i was just like okay and then this time i decided i watched a lot of finding big foot like i said but you know how bobo does this big foot call i'm like i'm going to do big foot call i just want to so I let out and it probably it probably sounded funny but I let out what I could to be the best

Bigfoot call I could and then I don't know if I kick this thing off by trying to imitate it and it didn't sound right but in 30 seconds I this scream to howl still just sit here and it haunts me I'm so scared

because I'm an avid hunter to be out in the middle of the woods and hear this noise again. It almost sounded like the Ohio howl I've heard it a couple times on your show and I've done research to try to figure out what it sounded like. But it was just like, it freaked me out. It was just like nothing in the woods should make that kind of a noise. And I've been hunting in West Virginia and Virginia pretty much since I was eight years old with my uncle and my grandpa and my dad. And it's just nothing in the woods that lives here should make a noise like that. And I was was just like, holy crap.

And then the rest of that night, we would hear whoops and stuff back and forth. And I don't, like I said, I don't know if we just pissed everything off in the woods that night. But it was crazy. He used to have, it was crappy audio because it was in 2015 on his phone. But we used to have audio to where you could almost hear these, like you could hear it faintly. And it was just absolutely insane. And I wish I could have a way to imitate these noises, but it's just not natural.

It was just, it still freaks me out to even think about something in the woods that can make noises like this. And so we had went back in the cabin that night, and we woke up pretty early in the morning as we were deciding if we wanted to stay. It just sounded like we pissed everything off. and we were up for a good 20, 30 minutes, and we started packing everything up, and we were just sitting down for a minute, and all of a sudden it was just like something ran up to the side of the house, the cabin, and slapped it, and like it vibrated,

and we both looked at each other, and he jumped up with a gun, and he ran around the house, but there was nothing there. But he had a picture where you could see this, it was almost like an oily handprint, slammed on the side of this house, and I'm getting chills even talking about this. And it was just absolutely insane.

And then at that moment, we were he, when he came back in the house, we got to go. He's like, we're going, man. He took a picture of that handprint. But ever since those things happened up at the cabin, I haven't been back, and I refuse to go back. And my biggest goal was I wanted to find Bigfoot, but I want to leave it alone. I want it to, if he's up in that cabin in West Virginia, I just want him to live happy. I don't want to piss him off. And quite frankly, I don't know if I even want to truly experience all of that again,

because it still messes with me sometimes to this day. And when we were leaving the cabin that morning, my uncle swears up and down. And I believe him because he's never lied to me in my entire life, that he saw something seven to eight feet tall and black, just tucked back in the side of the woods, just peeking around. tree. Now, I didn't see it, but it was just the events that happened up there, it's just still freaked me out. I had a few questions. It's really interesting. And thank you for sharing what you went through

during those summers. I was interested what particular calls you were call blasting. There was a Finding Bigfoot app that used to be on the app store where it would have the Ohio Howell. It would have Bobo's call. It had a whole bunch of different things where you could hook your phone up to the speaker and just blast off of that. Oh, really? I had no idea. That's awesome. Because this cabin, your nearest neighbors four or five miles away. It was literally in the middle of nowhere. Okay. And you had no phone service and you had to, it was only landline only. That kind of leads into my next question, which is, can you share anything about what area of West Virginia this cabin trailer is in?

So if people know West Virginia, it's in between warden, it's pretty close to Wardensville, West Virginia. It's just on the outskirts to where you almost go down corridor each into Moorfield, West Virginia. But it's tucked way back. You can only get up there in the four-wheel drive vehicles. I don't know what made my grandparents buy this cabin. They bought it thinking maybe like a family summer house, but you can't get up there at the car. It's in Hardy County. They'll probably be a listener that will know about Wardensville.

It looks like it's a very small town, about 265 people. You go out of the town of Wardensville a little bit, and then you hook her right, and I mean, you just drive forever. Your grandparents own the cabin trailer, correct? Yeah. Did you ever talk to them or ask them about Bigfoot activity on the property? No, but my, I probably wouldn't be a bad idea. So my grandma, she's from a small town in Glady, West Virginia.

And she always told me, because my great-grandpa always told her, that you don't want to mess with things that come out in the night in the mountains. Because they're very hardcore. She grew up in the middle of nowhere. And my grandfather was a coal miner. My great-grandfather was a coal miner and lived in a town of 75 people. And he would always want all the great-grandkids and the grandkids in at night. He did not like this out at night on his purse.

property. And my grandma was the same way. I don't, I could ask her if you want me to and I could always email you what she says. Oh, Will, you know there's stories. Will, you got to ask for me. That would be amazing. Yeah. I'm sure they ran into stuff on that property. Yeah, because my grandparents haven't gone up there. Like so, we all stop going up there. I refuse. I will not go back up there. You could give me a tank and I won't go back up there. So nobody goes up anymore. No, I don't know if my grandfather's been up there recently, but I refuse to. Okay, yeah, you've got to reach out. Talk to your grandparents.

I always get to talk to them if you can. But yeah, talk to them and ask if there's anything weird that ever happened at the property. And it might be a thing where you might have to word it a certain way, too, although they'll know what you're talking about. They would have to know if you say Bigfoot or things like that. But, yeah, they might come back with it. We had some big monkey type things running around. I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Man, that's wild.

So you say you haven't talked to your uncle lately? Yeah, we and him haven't probably talked in a good ear. Okay. But he may potentially have audio and photos from one of the summers or times up there. Yeah. Okay. I'll reach out to him. There's just no guarantee he.

things on me, Oh yeah, no probably If you don't mind reaching out That would be amazing There's going to be at least one person That's going to be thinking this Because you mentioned

You're going to try to sell the property Yeah, properties for sale It's on 67 acres Oh, that's wild Right near one of the Right near I don't remember the name of the National Forest That runs through there

I know there's one big forest But should run through there I'll get the address for you too from my grandparents. You can Google map that it is literally in the middle of nowhere. It feels like there's

it feels like there's more history to that area too. I think when you start digging a little bit you will probably you'll probably find something else

I think. Ah, that's wild. You mentioned that your uncle had an AR-15? Yeah, we both always carried two AR-15 and two

pistols and went up there. Okay, so you were ready to go. Yeah, I always had this anticipation. Like, I see this thing. I'm going to shoot this thing. But you know what? I'm good.

After the next thing that we talk about, and I'm good. You know what? I don't know what kind of caliber bullet would stop something like this. It's just crazy. Any weird smells at any time when you were up in that cabin area? Oh, yeah.

You would always get like, I mean, I know what a bear smells like. And it was just like. It smelled like a dead carcass mixed with a wet bear. It was just this funky, weird, nasty smell. They didn't happen all the time. Okay, gotcha. Any sounds that were out of place that didn't scream like Bigfoot,

but you heard it and you were like, that's really weird. That doesn't really belong out. I've heard whistles before and almost like a tough. tongue-clacking noise almost. It's hard to, like a popping noise almost. Any sounds that would make you think, are there other people here? No, I do for a fact.

If something happened and you were in the woods, it'd be a very hairy situation, but you could potentially not make it out of there. I know for a fact there was nobody up there. How close would you say the closest neighbor is to this area? It's a long way away. Probably a good 10-minute drive down. the road 15-minute drive to the cabin i'm not really sure how you kept going back after some of

this stuff man it's just like i want to see it kind of curiosity and then after that last thing i was just like nope i'm good oh the oily handprint on the side of the trailer was it a certain color at all it was go i don't know how to like almost like a caramel like a caramel like a really light caramel color almost also could have been because the side of the house was dirtier or something. Sure. I only saw it off the picture because, like, my uncle really just wanted to go. Like, he was done.

My uncle's a big dude. He's six foot one. He's got big hands, and this thing made his hand look small. It shook the side of it. And he was just like, nope, we're done. What kind of food were you cooking out on the campfire? Just bring, like, like, hamburger meat and hot dogs and sausage patties and bacon. Okay.

Anything. So I'm just going to say some really weird sounds. just for fun. Nothing that sounded like a baby crying? No. Okay. And random metallic door opening, anything I thought? No. Okay, cool. Good. But sometimes you would almost hear, and I don't want to say it like this, but it was like,

somebody trying, who doesn't speak fluent English, it almost sounded like they were trying to say my name or my uncle's name. We've heard that a time or two, and it just didn't really make sense. You're just jogging things back in my memory asking questions, and it was just weird. That's really unsettling, because it's almost like something could be hearing your uncle say your name or you say your uncle's name and then it's trying to mimic it. Yeah. Dude, that's wild because I know that in West Virginia there's a lot of stories of things mimicking, trying to lure you out in the woods. West Virginia's a

high place. When you would hear those, what sounded like your name, would you hear other sounds at the same time or in close proximity to that? I don't know. It very well could have been, but I don't know if I was just so fixated on hearing my name being called

that I really just focused on that. Because that happened in the morning when I would get up to go outside the pee and then I knew my uncle was sleeping and then like off the, I can look at look straight into the woods and it sounded like it was coming from right in front of me almost. Wow. So you heard it in the morning. Were there any other times a day that you would hear that as well?

No, it was only if I went outside in the morning by myself. And my uncle heard the exact same thing. Whoever woke up first would go outside and hear something like that. That's really freaky, dude. That's probably one of the weirdest things I've heard on the show, to be honest. Not a huge fan of that one. It's just creepy. Did that happen many times over the years, or was it only during a certain travel time that you went up there that happened? We would go up there for hunting season in November and nothing. It was only when we went towards the end of June. But we didn't stay it overnight.

We would just wake up and go in the morning and then come back in the afternoon. But I don't know if it's because we were there such a short time. but I did notice too a lot like the deer population just completely dwindled down because they've had that cabin we've been going up there since I was like eight and we see 20-30 deer

and like towards the last couple of times we went hunting you wouldn't see anything which was not like that at all okay I was just going to ask that how the animals were around that area sounds there used to be a good amount any water sources yeah there was a creek that ran through the property

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Oh, there's, oh, yeah, I'm getting the vibes about that area for sure. Oh, Will, that's crazy stuff. You're saying you experienced some things in Virginia as well? It was this one time. So my fiance's family, they live close to the George Washington National Forest, and they live in the middle, literally in the middle of nowhere. So I was leaving their house one night, and it was dark. It was probably 8 or 9 o'clock.

And going down this road, it's called Orndaft's Trout Farm. Anybody in this area would probably know it. And it's this guy he stalks this huge pond full of trout family. You go fishing and whatnot. And I start driving past the trout farm and I come around the road and my headlights hit two eyes standing in the middle of this field. And I was just like, what? it and it was like nine feet off the ground. So I hit it with my high beams.

And honestly, I wish I didn't hit it with my high beams because I literally saw eyes, a whole face, body definition, hair. I could draw this thing to a T. And it just, I couldn't even pull my phone out to take a picture because I was just something in my brains. You need to leave. You need to leave. Stop looking. Go. And I just, I shut my high meetings off.

I looked at this thing probably for a good 10, 15 seconds that I took off. I was, people were like, how can you not take a picture of it? I promise you, if you truly see this thing and watch it breathing, it's staring. We were eye to eye. It felt like it was looking into my soul. You don't think. You just don't think. And I could draw it to a T.

And I can give you such a vivid description. and it was just utterly terrifying. Like maybe if I had my sidearm on me, I maybe would have gotten out and tried to take my phone out and take a good picture of it or maybe pull my phone up, but I was so freaked out.

I just felt like in that situation, I did not want to die. It just freaked me out. Like this thing could literally rip my car door off, pull me off, and I'm its next meal. At that point, you're looking face-to-face of the creature 15 seconds. Did it then walk away or you kept driving or how did that end?

I peeled off. Like I completely stopped in the road and I was looking at this thing and it made a move. Like it gesture to start like I don't know if it was going to start walking towards me or walking towards the woods, but I just slammed my foot on the gas and I took off. Like it just freaked me out. It was only like 20, maybe 30 yards away from the car, maybe 30 yards. And it just, I always said, I want to get the best picture, the best proof.

And not until you're in a situation like that, everything just changes in your brain. Was this something you were able to bring up to your fiancé and your fiancé's family? No. Her dad thinks I'm absolutely crazy that Bigfoot doesn't exist. And she is a huge Bigfoot believer, but she just can't hear about it. me seeing it versus we watch Expedition Bigfoot on TV together. I just don't know if she doesn't want to believe it's as close to home as she wants to think it is, or I don't know. Oh, so you start talking to her about how I actually saw one and she's, I don't even want to.

Yeah, she doesn't believe you. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to be scared to drive the night from my parents' house. You said this was near Orndorf's Rainbow Trout Farm. Yeah, Trout Farm. Did you ever go and talk to them? about it at all? No, I probably should.

And I'm just so scared people are going to look at me and be like, what is wrong with you? I think I'm like crazy. Gotcha. I can live it. It's just crazy. This thing, it's embedded in my brain.

I've had nightmares about this thing just chasing me down. Do you mind if I ask a few questions about what it is that you'd see? I'm all. Okay. Were you able to see a color of, if there's any hair on it at all? It's dark brown to black. It being at night, it was just a very, I would say very dark brown.

Gotcha. Short or long hair? It was like if you hold your arms out, the hair came down like three or four inches, but around like parts of its face, it had no hair on it. Okay. What parts of the face did it not have hair around? So it looked like somebody who had really long hair in the face, but I could see its eyebrows and its forehead.

didn't have any hair around the top of its forehead and then just a little bit below its eyes like its cheekbone. But the biggest thing that stuck out is how wide this thing's mouth was. Like it looks like it could eat an entire watermelon in one bite. It's almost like the Joker's smile. That's very interesting. Did it have its mouth open at all or could you see the teeth? I don't want to say it like this, but they almost had the demonic smile to its face where I could just see a little bit of tea, but it was like almost like it was smiling. And it was just, it was just so creepy. It's so hard to explain. It was just like, the way it looked at me with its eyes. And once I hit it with the high beams, then its mouth opened up a little bit. And I was

just like, what? I was just so blown away. It's crazy. What did it seem to be conveying with its eyes when it was looking at you? I almost felt like it wanted me to get out of the car. do you know why it would have or did you get any feeling as to why i don't know it was just like part of me this thing was like looking at me in a way it come out of the car and then nobody's ever going to see you again it was just that's horrifying it was just yeah it was just wild can you describe the nose shape it looked like its nose was pushed in a little bit but it was like it had like a wider nostril base. And it was almost like, it was like a flat, it looked like almost like a person's nose, but pushed back a little bit and almost flatter to its face with lighter nostrils.

You're looking at the nose and then you have the lips underneath. Is there a lot of space between the lips and the nose? It had a lot. Maybe it was like more of a rounded coming down face and everything was just a little bit more spaced apart than looking at a human's face. Sure. Were you able to see ears at all? on the head? No. Okay. Was the hair covering them up?

Yeah. I would think so. Okay. Were you able to see like a certain shape to the head at all? It was almost, it almost looked like it came up. Not almost like a pin on the top of its head, but like its head came up and it was just like a little bit like pointy at the top. I don't want to, I don't know how to explain it. Were you able to tell anything else about the creature, muscular or finition-wise?

underneath the hair. It looked like, I don't know if you know who Eddie Hall is the bodybuilder. It looked, it was huge. This thing was massive. The weird part was, so I looked at the whole body and its knees look like they sit farther down than our knees. It was just, it had very long, it was, this thing was insane. It was huge.

It was like looking at a nine foot tall, five foot. wide bodybuilder. It was huge. Were you able to see the hands or arms at all? Did you notice anything about them? The hands, so when you looked at the hands, it looked like the center of its hand had hair, but towards the end of the fingers, it had no hair. But it had these insanely long fingers.

Like its hands, everything was just like, it was just crazy. Everything was so much more like proportionate. Gotcha. How would you describe the arms? The arms were long, but they weren't like, I know I hear a lot of people say, like, its hands were down to its knees. They were close, but it wasn't like crazy long arms, but the arms were very long. And very, it was just like very tone like jacked looking arms. Like, they were massive.

Would you say anything that made you think you're looking at, like a male or a female or an adult or a juvenile or anything at that? Honestly, I want to say I was looking at a metal just by the pure, just sizing, like, how I felt aggression coming off of this thing. Were you able to see the feet? No, it was pretty much from, like, the knees up. Okay. You said you had peeled out. At any time, did you get to see the creature walking around or moving around? No.

I just saw it make that one gesture where I didn't know if it was coming forward or going to its right. I didn't want to be there anymore. Don't blame you. If you had to categorize what it looked like, say, it looked more like a human or an ape, or if you could put it into any category like that, could you put it into a certain category? I could say it looked like 60 to 70 percent, ape and 30 percent human. Its hands look like ours. Its face structure is like ours, but everything is just, other than its lips.

being, its mouth being so wide. And its eyes were a lot bigger. I will never be able to forget its eyes. It was just like, it's almost like you take two eggs and put it on a face. And the color of the eyes, it was like a reddish, greenish tint to the eyes. Which I could have red eyes and then my high beams reflecting off its eyes made it look like that. but it had tint of red in its eyes. You said it reminded you of an ape in some ways,

any particular ape or just the broad category of ape? I can't remember what it was called, but Dr. Jeff Maldrum talks about them all the time. A great the giant ape, it reminds me a lot of that. But it just looking at it, and it didn't talk to me in my brain, but it had some higher form of intelligence by just looking at it and gauging what's each other's next moment.

ocean going to be. I felt like it planned out how I planned out. If this happens, I'm going to do this, but if this happens, I'm going to do that. Almost like it was playing a weird game of chess with you, sounds like. Yeah, it was trying to plot my move while I was trying to plot its move,

which is just terrifying because nothing in the wood should be like that smart, in my opinion. Right. Did you drive back to the same area ever to take a look at it? Yeah, so I actually have got my buddy who I used to work with involved.

And he was about 6'4, and he's a bigfoot guy. And I had him go stand in that exact same spot. And I turned the car around and drove down the road, and he was just nothing size-wise compared to this thing. It took me a good two weeks to go back to her parents' house because I just was like, I don't want to see this thing again. What happens if it's standing in the middle of the road when I leave this time? Not a thing that you want to have around your fiancée's.

place. No, and I go, her dad has 100 acres, and the property of George Washington National Forest is maybe half a mile from where I saw this, maybe, because their parents' property butts up to the National Forest. It is

not surprising. I know it's a very large forest, right? Yeah. I've talked to a few people about things they've encountered in somewhere around that forest. They had to be a little vague, but I'm not surprised at all that you had that sighting. Your fiance's

father is not into Bigfoot at all. Have you ever asked him if he's experienced anything out of the ordinary while hunting, though? See, that's what I was going to say. I think he has for he's too scared to talk about it. Because this man literally grew up in the hills, in the mountains of Pennsylvania and hunted his entire life. And all of a sudden he doesn't like hunting by himself. He will not go back out in the way. He will not hunt by himself. I won't hunt by myself, but.

He won't say why he won't go hunting by himself anymore. No, he won't. It's just, he just doesn't. He refuses to, it seems. Yeah, something there, dude. But he won't talk about it. He's too much of a macho type of a guy to talk about it. Hopefully someday, maybe give him a few years.

Who knows? Will, you have experienced some really, interesting things and I don't think that your story is over even though you might want it to be over regarding it sounds like you're not really wanting to have any more bigfoot encounters i don't know is that true or i would love to experience it again but in a different type of a situation i wouldn't mind seeing a big foot again in person it would just i don't want to be be in my car driving at night. If I want to see this thing, I want to see this thing with a gun.

Because if you can plot out my next move to where I'm going to try to turn and run away and you're going to chase me, I at least want to have a fighting chance. But I don't even know if a 223 or 5,56 bullets, it might just laugh. I don't know how powerful this thing is. And I just want to have a fighting chance. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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So in my brain, I'm wired. If it's me or you, it's me, it's me going home. So I'd like to see this thing peacefully, but if it's going to attack me, I'm at least going to try to attack to make it home. That's a big side note. Yeah, I'm sorry. No, you're good. I guess I should have asked.

The deputy sheriff part, was that, when did that take place? So I was a deputy sheriff from 21 to 2022. Okay, so that was taking place during some of your Bigfoot interactions. Yeah, which I actually talked to a lot of the guys I worked with. And I have some, if you ever want to do part two, I have some other crazy stories I could tell you from those guys. Oh, really? Bigfoot's Skin Walker to UFOs. I've talked to them all.

And they're all pretty open about it. This is like West Virginia, sheriff. This is in the Rockingham County, Virginia. Oh, yeah, we're definitely setting that up. I could talk for it for another hour. Yeah, that would be, right? Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, we will definitely set that up because that sounds like it could be very interesting for sure.

And actually, that goes for all listeners. If you used to be law enforcement and you have info about stuff that your department used to, deal with that sounds like that. Contact me. Bigfoot Society, gmail.com. But Will, this has been a very interesting chat. And I'll be interested to see if you come up with any more information

after you contact your grandparents and that about the cabin area. But any closing thoughts before we head out for the night? If anybody wants to reach out to me, they can find me on Facebook. My name is William Franzosa, it's F-R-A-N-Z-O-S-A. And I'd be more than welcome to hearing your stories to helping you out or if you just want to talk about it. I don't want to share it on the air like this because I know it's a lot and just need to get it off your chest.

I'm available to talk. That's great. And the cool thing about Will is that he has that he's had that face-to-face interaction. He will definitely be able to relate in different ways for sure. as I have yet to have that. Well, it's good to talk to you, and it's been a little bit of time coming for us to chat, but I'm glad we were finally able to chat.

Thank you so much for coming on tonight. Definitely, thank you. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Don. He reached out to me from Eastern Tennessee about some interesting things he experienced a few years back. Don, how's it going today? It sounds good, Jeremy, and everything's going great.

man. Today's just been a chill day. I've been relaxing and getting things done around the house. Oh, that's great. I remember when you reached out to me, and it's a very interesting story. All right, man. Do I have the floor? Yes, sir. All right. Sounds good, man. Okay, like Jeremiah was saying, my name is done. I've been living in East Tennessee for the past two going on three years now. And not last year of 23. This was 22 in November. I decided to rent a cabin and go spend some time with my fiance for her birthday in the mountains. And exactly where we were is about two and a half, no, about two hours north of us. And we were in the Gatlinburg, Severeville, and Pigeon Forge area. And for anyone who is familiar with this area, it's three different cities, but they're literally

10 minutes apart from each other. So that's where everything started and where we had our first experience. So just to get started, man, the day of that we had the cabin, we decided to go ahead and head down and get there while it was still daylight. Because like I said, this was in November. Actually, it was November the, it was the first. Okay, it was November the first, but it was in celebration of her birthday for the seventh. And I'm pretty sure the seventh was like just, it wasn't a weekend where we were going to have time. Anyway, so we head up to the cabins and everything.

And it was just me and my fiancee who went out first. Her brother and his girlfriend, they came out a little bit later. So what ended up happening is we got there at a pretty decent time. It was still daylight. And after we got comfortable with the cabin, we wanted to go and grab a bite to eat. So we drove about 12 minutes up the road to Gatlinburg, right? Gatlinburg, yep. So we went to Gatlinburg, sat down at a nice Mexican restaurant.

About 9 o'clock, we headed back to the cabin. It was dark, not pitch black, but it was pretty dark. Like I said, we were up in the cabin area. We're just in there hanging out or whatever, just trying to stay. stay up and we're just checking out things and seeing how things are going. So we decided to go to the back on the back deck. There was a deck overlooking a valley and you could see for miles, man, a long ways. We went out, decided to go and get in the hot tub, just killing and things like that. We did have wine, but this is when things got weird. Okay. So we're sitting out in the hot tub

had to be about 10 minutes at the most. We're just out there hanging out and joined the time. being spent together. And next thing, man, just out of the blue, my fiance, she just lost control of herself. And what I mean by that, for a lack of better term, she almost fainted. So what happened is I just went right away and I grabbed her. And I'm like, what's wrong?

And she's like, I'm lightheaded. I need to lay down. So I helped her out of the hot, I go take her to the room. She's, I'm just going to lay down. Now, like I said, we had wine, but we had never even drunk. It was still actually defrosting on this little

table area, which is on the back deck. And there's two rocking chairs back there also. I get her in the house and everything. And all the way up until this point meant nothing happened. Like I said, she got her in the house in the cabin. She laid down or whatever. So I said, hey, Bay, I'm going and get this line and put it back in the freezer for later. She's okay. Now, Jeremiah, I didn't mention this part, but earlier when we got to the cabin when we first got there, we did see a black bear. Now, looking off the deck, if you look to the right, there's the hot tub. on the deck actually. If you look off over the deck to the right, there is a cabin there, but the cabin was unfinished. You could tell it was being renovated or it was probably new getting

finished. Now, if you look to the left, we had one neighbor who was right there. And we never really even saw them. But back to the initial part, when I walked to the back door, there's a double door, like the, I don't know what they call it, but it's the big door, the wooden door with the big glass, like the five foot glass or whatever, and it's a double door. So I walked to the door and I opened the back door. When I opened the door, I stepped one foot on the balcony. And man, I heard the largest, when I say largest, the largest footsteps I've ever heard in my life. And what was crazy is logically, because I'm a logical thinker first. And like I told you earlier, I've always known about Sasquatch and things like that, but that was the furthest thing from my mom.

mind. Like I said, I stepped one foot out and I hear some big footsteps. And what happened is, whatever it was, to this day, I don't like to just say big foot, but man, trust me, I know exactly what it was. Those footsteps ran from under this deck. Now, this deck is about 12 to 15 feet off of the ground. But since it's on, I guess, an elevated area, the right side of the cabin. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills, daily? Yeah. And you feel Uh-huh, and more. More? Huh, I didn't think we could feel like that again at our age.

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Now, keep in mind, we saw a bear earlier that day, and we saw it come up the valley and go over there to that abandoned cabin area, and it was just fumbling around, man, maybe for about 15 minutes. We just literally just saw it. We never heard that bear taking its steps. So that had already went out of my mind. And what was more even crazier about the situation, whatever it was, it ran from under that deck, and it stopped in some tall weeds.

if I'm looking off the back of the deck down into that valley, if it was a regular person, you couldn't walk no more than 20 feet without literally sliding down that valley. And for a person to actually get up that valley, you would definitely need climbing gear. Cleats into something that will support your weight. Because, man, it's just foliage.

It's leaves and trees. And later on, man, I would definitely send you the pictures and the views and things like that. And another thing I didn't tell you is we actually caught something on camera. Jeremiah, when you see these pictures, man, you're going to be freaked out. And what I did was I did a lot of comparison of that picture that I did capture to a lot of not tied standing, man.

It's the other guy. He just recently passed. I can't think of his name right now, but he's also from East Tennessee. But anyway, so what was the craziest part about this is whatever that was ran from under there and it stopped cold, dead in his tracks. So I'm frozen, man, because the footsteps, It just freaked me out. So I closed the door.

I didn't even grab the wine. I closed the door. I was like, hey, I need you to come here. There's something just ran from under the deck. So she's, what do you mean? I said, Bay, I just heard some loud footsteps. Something just ran from under this deck. And so after that or whatever, like I said, whatever it was, is stop.

So I get her, I gather her. She was feeling better at the time. So I said, just come sit out here. Now, we had this LED disco ball light and we had it plugged up. And it's actually a Bluetooth speaker. And these lights, man, I'm pretty sure you can see these lights for a good distance. I'm pretty sure this was the root cause of all of this encounter of what happened. So back to the part.

So I gathered her. I said, look, we're going to go out here and sit down. I want you to be real quiet and just tell me what you hear. Unknowingly to me, whatever it was, had got back under the deck from the time I went in the house to get her. Because like I said, I never stepped fully on the deck. I only put one foot out there and it ran from under there. So like I said, on to the next part. We're sitting out there and we're just hearing like footsteps.

We're just hearing footsteps. And after that part, just a distance away. Because like I said, you can see different mountain peaks and everything. Further in the distance, you can hear some. It sounds like someone yelling, but it didn't sound normal if that makes sense. She's sitting out there on my lap. We're both sitting in one of the rocking chairs. we actually sat in a rocking chair close to the door.

At this point, I unplug the lights, because I was freaked out. I unplug the lights, not even thinking that the lights was the cause at this point. I just unplugged the lights and went back there and sat down. So we turned off the porch light also. So she's sitting there and she's steady hearing something under us moving. And she was like, babe, I'm scared. I'm about to go in the house. So she was like, I got to go use the restroom.

So she went in the house and she used the restroom. So I call her brother. And around this time, man, this is like, around 10.30, 11 o'clock. So I call him. I'm like, hey, Jay, where are you guys? They're like, man, we're in Knoxville now. We're probably like another hour and a half away. I was like, man, listen, I don't know what this is, bro, but I just heard something big running from under this dick. So him and his girlfriend, I had just moved here. So her excuse was, you're not from here. It's probably just bears and you just, you're not comfortable with the mountains yet.

I was like, okay, I know how a bear sound. We saw a bearer earlier. The bear was at least 300, somewhere in there. I'm not really good with weights. I'm going to say 300 some pounds. We couldn't even hear this bear when it was walking and we watched this bear for about 15 minutes total. I'm on the call and I'm like, listen, man, y'all just let us know when you're all close. We can be up and getting around. Hung up with them or whatever. I go back in the house. My girl, I'm like, babe, you coming back out. She's all. I'm okay. So I was like, you know what? Forget it. Let's just try to lay down or whatever and relax until your brother gets here. We go in the house and we fall asleep. I think he called the.

just like around, what, almost two o'clock. And he was like, hey, man, I'm headed there. I turned off the main script. I'm coming up the mountains now. I was like, okay, tell me what you. Now, at this point, I got back up. I plugged the lights, the LED light back up. And but the back porch area where the deck is, that light stayed off.

I never turned that light back on. So those lights are just beaming the LED lights. He's coming up the mountain. They're like, hey, him and his girlfriend, they're like, man, we keep, we're seeing these lights, bro. And I was like, what kind of lights? He was like, they're colorful. I was like, okay, man, that's the speaker. That's the Bluetooth speaker.

He was like, for real. I was like, yeah, he said, bro, we got to be close to y'all. But he drove at least another seven minutes, seven and ten minutes to actually get up there. And he was like, man, I saw those lights when we first started actually coming up. And I was like, man, that's weird because I didn't think that you could see it from that far. So him and his girlfriend get there. At this time, it's a little after two. The cabin had, it was, I don't know the name of this game.

I guess it's called shuffleboard, and then it had a lot of little board games. We brought out the wine drink. I'm not a big drinker. I've never been able to the celebration, so we celebrate. So they come. We're all hanging out or whatever. We're just out there chilling. So I said, look, y'all, I want y'all to come on this deck with me and tell me what you guys here.

They're like, okay, his girlfriend still. Oh, man, I told you, it's bears, this, that, and the thing. I was like, okay, cool, fine. Let's just go sit out here. I said, look, we are all going to go out here. I want everybody to be quiet. Now, my brother-in-law, his girlfriend, she smoked cigarettes. So she was standing out there smoking her cigarette and everything.

We're just all standing out there just chilling. I said, listen, everybody just get real quiet. Let's try not to talk to each other. But we still were whispering to each other. Whatever it was at the time, you could hear something moving slightly through the tall weeds and grass. So you could hear something like sneaking through, just moving around. And so what ended up happening is I didn't see this. But my brother-in-law, he said, and the reason I didn't see this is because every time I heard a noise from a different area, I was looking in that area just pointed out.

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Because the distance, because we actually walked back there when we initially got there while it was still daytime, just to see how everything was in my head. Even if I reached my arm up, man, I was nowhere near the bottom of that deck. So that right there, it freaked me out. We all in the house and we're talking about it. At this point, his girlfriend is like, what was that? What was that? Like I said, I think everyone saw it but me. But the reason I didn't see it is because when we were out there sitting out there,

being quiet. We just, different areas like from the right, whether the abandoned cabin, not abandoned, the empty cabin was, we were hearing noises over there. We were hearing noises to my left over there where we did have neighbors in their cabin. And also, we were hearing noises coming from out of that deep valley. Everybody calmed down and I said, y'all, let's go back out here. I was like, let's not make a lot of racket and stuff because there's something out here. So this time, when we all go back out there, my brother-in-law's girlfriend said, hey, you guys want me to record to see if we can catch anything. I was like, okay, cool, but what she didn't

record, she did an audio recorder. So she went back out there. She was finishing her cigarette that she had put out before they ran, before we all ran. I walked in because I didn't see what they initially saw. So they ran in. So she fired back up her cigarette. She set her phone on the top of the deck

and she just turned the speaker towards where we were hearing these sounds. Now, Jeremiah, this right here freaked me out and it freaked everybody out. To the right, you're hearing you to the left. Same thing. Straight ahead. You're hearing all this.

It had to be at least, I'm thinking three or more. I heard, we all heard a freaking branch, not a stick, possibly a log, man. It just crap. And when I tell you, Jeremiah, everything just, all that noise we was hearing, everything ceased. And it was so crazy because I called to their attention. I said, listen, I'm not the smartest person in the world, and I'm not even just that avid of a person in the woods. but no animal, wolves, bears, coyotes, whatever, if they break something while they're walking,

like if they step on something, they're not going to stop. And what was crazy, whatever that was, when it stepped on that, we actually have this on recording. We haven't enhanced it or anything. It's just on recording. That freaking stick just, not stick, the log, whatever, man,

Branch, it cracked so loud, like someone, something either broke it or stepped on it. I'm thinking something stepped on it because when it did that, like I said, all of the other motions around us is stopped. So we're all looking at each other. Did you hear that? Did you hear that?

And we're like, yeah, we're like, yeah. So at that point, I think we, did we go back in at that point? Yeah, we all went back in the house. They were like, man, this is too freaky for me. This is too creepy. So the night goes on. We forget about it. We're playing shuffleboard, just hanging out, not having fun,

listening to music. And around this time, man, this is a little bit after three. At that point, we decided to go ahead and lay down because me and my fiance, we had already been up waiting on them and took a little nap. So we decided to lay down. So we're in the room laying down. No, I'm sorry. I skipped apart.

Before that, while we were all in there playing the game and everything, like in the living room area, my fiancee went to the bathroom. Now, there's two rooms in this cabin. On the side that's elevated off the ground real high, that's the side of the cabin, me and my fiancee slept on. Now, the other side of the cabin that if you're at their window, you're right there ground level. like you can walk over there and you can be right there at the window like a regular level house. I told you that specifically because of this point. So my fiance was in our bathroom. Now our bathroom, if you walk out of our room and go toward the kitchen area, you're looking

at the front deck. That front deck is connected to the bathroom. You see what I'm trying to see what I'm the picture I'm trying to convey. So she came out. She was like, were you guys tapping on the walls? And we were like, what? She was like, I just heard something tap on the wall. Was it the wall or the window? The wall, okay. She said it was the wall. So she said something that was tapped and we blew that off. We weren't even thinking about it. Later on in the night when we decided to lay down and everything, we dozed off, man. I'm in a dead sleep, Jeremiah. I'm in a dead sleep, man. And I swear to you, I heard this freakish tap. Now, I'm trying to paint this picture for you.

On the side of our cabin where we were sleeping, the bed is made of pure wood. I don't know what kind of wood, but it literally was made of pure wood. The cabin is a pure wooden cabin. Now, what happened is I heard a freaking tap right above my head. Now, the only thing on that side of the whole cabin is the AC, the outside AC unit. And Jeremiah, just for, just for me to paint the picture, the only way a person could get up there and tap where I heard that tap above my head in their bed, you would probably need one of those real big ladders. And to be honest, I don't even think that you could do that with that. My point is, I heard something tap. Now, do you know how hard something have to tap for me to hear it through this wooden cabin in the

wooden bed? I felt the taps on the headboard of the bed. So the tap was like, and I woke up out of my sleep. So I'm like, hey, around this time, it's about four in the morning. I'm like, babe, did you hear that? She was like, hear what? I was like, okay, don't worry about it. So my logical mind is thinking, this is a new place. I've never been here before. It could be something on the roof, something falling on the roof or whatever.

Man, Jeremiah, this exact same cadence again after I dozed off, it was like three minutes later, when you know how you wake up and you almost back in their sleep, right above my head again. Bro, I lost it, Jeremiah. And when I woke up the first time, I forgot to mention this. When I woke up, man, as a child, when you wake up in the middle of the night and it's pitch black and it's just this lingering feeling, it's just super scared. For some reason, when I first initially woke up, you know, woke up from those, that first cadence of taps, man, I was just, I was, bro, I was purely just scared. I couldn't tell you why.

And it's something I've never experienced before, but the crazy thing about it is, like I said, when the secondary taps happened after that initial tap, I knew it was something freaky going on, man. I just knew it was because there's no way someone is out here tapping on someone's cabin and four in the morning. It just don't, it didn't make sense, man. So I did, I always carry when I'm traveling. and I was sleeping with an AR pistol and then I had my Glock pistol. There was never any time in my mind I was thinking about discharging a weapon. But my thing is, man, I just, when I grabbed it closer to me like sleeping, it just gave me a sense of comfort. You know what I'm saying?

Because in my head, I'm trying to gather, how can any, even if someone stood on that unit, you would still need a ladder to reach right above where my head is and it's bed. man, after all of that or whatever, man, I just, I couldn't sleep. So we got up. And I go over and my girl's brother and his girlfriend, they're gamer. So they were up gaming. So I go out and I'm like, hey, man, have y'all been hearing something tap? And his girlfriend was like, when I was in the bathroom earlier, and this was way after my, my fiancee, she's like, when I was in the bathroom early, I heard something tapping. What we did was we turned off all the lights and we started looking out of their window over there toward the empty cabin, but we could

didn't see anything. And I'm like, man, it's just super freaky, man. What happened? It was just, when you experienced something that you've never experienced before, you don't know how to grab your mind, grasp your mind around the concept of what's really going on. And then, so pretty much after that, man, I think we initially went to sleep. But my fiance's brother, no, his girlfriend, they said that they really didn't go to sleep that night because they just felt uncomfortable. And like I said, she was the one before she got there. Yeah, it's just bears. and you're not used to it or whatever. But to this day, man, she'll tell you.

I know what was out there, man, and it wasn't no dangone bears, man. That was pretty much the night, man. Trying to just jog my memory and make sure there's not anything that I missed. But just in a nutshell, man, that's pretty much what happened at first night. And just the experience and what I felt in general, man. It was crazy. Oh, yeah, Jeremiah.

This is something immediate also that I need to tell you. While we were out there on that dick, we had neighbors that were adjacent to the unfinished cabin. So I want you to, because I'm trying to give you a perspective. So if we're on our deck, if we're looking immediate, there's the unfinished cabin. But if you look at the 2 o'clock away from that cabin, there was other people in a cabin, but they were higher in elevation in us. So what was crazy is the whole time when we were sitting out there on the deck,

recording those sounds and stuff like that, whatever was messing with us, had to be over there messing with those people because at the time it was between two and three in the morning while we were out there on their dick. And those people were on their dick with flashlights, flashing it down into the valley like they were looking for something. And we're like, what could these people be looking for down in that valley at two, three in the morning? It was so crazy and that just verified what was happening.

to us. We just chalked it up to whatever it is. It's over there messing with those people because come on, man, what could they be looking for at two, three in the morning down in the valley? I think it was like two dudes and maybe a woman because you could see them. If we had binoculars, we probably could look in their cabin, but we're looking up in elevation at them on the deck and they're just, they have flashlights and phones shining down into the valley. And we're like, man, it just blew our mind, man. It was so crazy, man. It was. was so crazy, Jeremiah. Tom, that is, that's an incredible account for sure.

I don't know how you guys didn't just leave the premises. I paid that money, Jeremiah. I didn't want to get them back to. I love it. I have a few, I'm working through a few questions. If I can ask you some questions about the night. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

The tapping that you guys heard. So just a plain like devil's advocate for. bit. So was it different than like a noise you would hear like a woodpecker or can you describe what it sounded like? Perfect. Perfect. Yeah, no problem. I didn't hear the taps, the taps on the house or the, it was never the window. It was like taps on the cabin itself. I didn't hear the taps that my fiance's brother-in-law girlfriend heard. And I also didn't hear the taps that my fiance heard, but she's right here with me. And she could, how did that, what did those taps sound like? It was really hard.

Like just someone, like how many taps was it? It was just one. One tap? Just like a tap. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So she said it was just one tap that she heard now me.

The taps that I heard, it was two of the same cadences. And the thing is, if the first tap was tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. And then the second tap was like tap, tap, tap, tap, or something like that, I still wouldn't know how to explain it. But it was so freaky because Jeremiah, when the taps happened, it was a cadence. Tap, tap, tap, tap. And what I've chalked it up to be was something was trying to get my attention in general because Jeremiah, the taps were right above my head. I heard the taps through this pure wooden cabin and through this pure wooden headboard. The taps were right above my head.

Like, it knew where I was laying in the bed so it could tap. And like I said, the first taps were like, hold on. It was like that. Could you hear that, Jeremiah? A little bit. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm going to bang on the wall, but it was tap, tap, tap, tap. That was the first one.

Like I said, so that initially woke me up. And I asked my fiance, hey, did you hear that? She was like, hear what? I'm like, okay, don't worry about it. Like I said, I'm thinking, okay. It could be the heat or whatever. I just blew it off. When I those back off, man, it couldn't have been three to five minutes later.

I hear the same exact cadence, the same exact tap in the same spot that I heard it right above my head, man. No way I never heard a woodpecker go tap tap tap tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, I mean, it's always. Tata, da, da, tat, tat, ta. You know what I'm saying? And I don't know if woodpeckers are even out at that, it's, that toe. Sorry, I'm talking to this. I don't even know if woodpeckers are out in the area in those times. Like I said, this was the first of November in celebration for her birthday, which is November the 7th.

Man, it's no way possibly it could have been a woodpecker. And if it was a woodpecker, it had to be super intelligent for it to do the same cadence twice. It just had to be, man. The other thing that really is interesting is how you mentioned that the neighbors, in that area we're looking down in the valley with their flashlights that's at three in the morning wild like why man at three in the morning jeremiah and like i said i'm pretty sure the whole reason that we even had this encounter there's a okay just a little half a circle disco ball it's like a little blue tooth and the lights shining all over the cabin and also out of that back window it broadcast it had to

broadcast pretty high in the air. And I'm pretty sure a lot of people saw those lights because, like I said, it took them 10 minutes, seven to 10 minutes after they got off the main strip to come up to where we were. They were telling us that they saw the lights before they even got on the road to actually come up there. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls. So this is the little pink pill everyone's been talking about. Yep, that's Addy. Good things do come in small packages. And Adi is definitely a good thing. Not just good, it's

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videos of that whole thing. But what is really crazy, Jeremiah, I can't remember exactly what time it was. When I walked out there and I shot that little, what, eight second video, was that before or after your brother, them came? It was before. Yeah, so Jeremiah, at one point of time, before they came or whatever, I think this was actually right after we got back from the Mexican restaurant. I go outside and I'm just BS and I'm in the woods. I'm in the woods. I'm happy. So I just go out there and I'm just, I just shoot a quick video of the, it's not, I wouldn't call it a tree line, but it's just a row of trees next. Let me see. If I'm walking, if I'm on the front deck, it was to the left. So it was the left on the left. So it was over there close to what my fiance's brother in his girlfriend's room was there was there was a row of trees right there, whatever. But I just shot a quick video. And I didn't even notice anything in a video when I first shot it. But due to all of the strange things that we encountered later, on that night and stuff like that. Maybe a week or so later, something was just telling me to go through the video.

So you have an iPhone, right? When you shoot a video on the iPhone, you can go to the video. At the bottom of the video, you have the little script part down there. You can take your finger and scrub it and it'll slowly pan through the video. Man, Jeremiah, these pictures that I'm going to see you, I've only ever sent these pictures to one guy. And the reason being is because this guy, he has a real, a unique name. needed to find him. I probably could again, but this was the only guy that I've ever sent these

pictures to besides my fiance and her brother and his girlfriend. But the guy, he reached out, I reached out to him and he finally reached out to me. I sent him the pictures and just asked him what he thought. And he was like, man, you definitely have something here. And I just told him, I don't mind you sharing these pictures with any. Just give me feedback. He never gave me feedback on anything. And hopefully he's not using my pictures just for anything. It is what it is. I don't care. My whole thing was I needed to reach out to someone at that time, man, because like I said, I've been following this whole topic ever since about, I graduated in 2013. I was working at a private speech school in 2014. So from about 2014, all the way up until now, I was very aware.

I followed Jeff Meldron, Scott Carpenter. That's the guy I was mentioning who's actually from East Tennessee also. I follow all these people. And like I said, my first perspective when I got into it back in 2014, 2015, it was more of the lines of okay, just an unknown ape or primate that hasn't been discovered. But after what I've experienced and even before, all of this information, like I said, I drive trucks, man. And I see the vast amount of land that is out here and just in one or two states. It's mind blowing for the masses not to believe that something could exist that is just as much or more intelligent in not technically advanced, but in a sense of just being out in the wilderness. It's right here

in our faces, man. You just have to get out here and you have to get out here and experience things. But Jeremiah, man, I promise you, I've never experienced anything like this ever in my life, man. It was amazing in all, man. But it just pushed me to want to look more into the topic and do more research. But I do follow and read a lot of credible people's work and stuff like that, man. And I know for a fact what I experienced. Like I said, I've never. never seen one personally in real life only off of that picture that I saw. But in real life, myself, I didn't see it. My fiance's brother, he saw, he said he saw half of a face and some shoulders. And this was 12 to 15 feet off of the ground. So I'm just projecting that if the bottom of

the deck is 10 to 12 feet, then the top part of the deck where we're, where we were sitting the phone and things like that, it had to be 14 to 15 feet. So for him to be looking straight ahead or downward in the angle and see something rising up. Shoulders and stuff, I'm like, man, bears don't do that. And if a bear stands up, it's real sloppy. He said it was rising real slow. And he said the crazy thing about it is, he said the crazy thing about it is it wasn't even fully erect.

It was just like lifting itself up. So it's crazy, man. It was crazy, man. I tell you. You mentioned that your brother-in-law's girlfriend, I believe, had some audio recordings that were taken, that would be interested. I don't know if it's possible to hear those at all, but I bet those are pretty interesting.

Yeah, I think it was maybe one or two recordings, if I don't want to say the wrong thing, but I know for sure it was one. But on that one recording, when we heard that branch or log or whatever it was, when it stepped on it and everything got quiet, on that recording, you know how on an audio recording, you can see spikes to where sound is played sound.

There's a real small spike. you can faintly hear something was yelling it was one or two something was yelling but it wasn't right there where all of what we were hearing all this motion around us this was like far away like you can faintly hear something like and i'm like who would be out here at two three in the morning yelling like that oh and jeremiah the next morning this was crazy jeremiah we heard someone it sound like they were having a gun fight. And then also the next morning when we go out, we see huge turkeys just walking up the driveway.

And then, hey, what time? Okay, the next morning we went outside, that bear, this had to be after we saw the bear and it went about his business. So when we left the Mexican restaurant earlier that day around, I'm going to say around 9, 10 o'clock, whatever. I'm going to say more than 9 o'clock. It had to be about 9.

We had food in the car, but we took it out. So the smell of the food was in the car. We saw prints on the window in the car door, but we just said it had to be the bear that we saw. We just chopped it up to the bear. But that whole night, we kept hearing something over there by the car. So the car is part, the car, okay, if you're pulling to this cabin, you're coming up like a mountainous road, it's not like the road where you're almost about to run people off the road, but it is a small road. Only two cars can fit.

But my point is, when you drive up that driveway, the driveways to the left, when you pull directly beside the cabin to park, there's the AC unit. You look up, there's a big circle window about 18 feet off the ground. This is above the bed area where we were sleeping in our room. And then over there in that area, we just kept hearing something. So let's just say I get out of the car and I'm standing right there on side of the cabin. If I walk straight back, we have the bins right there, the bear proof. beings and you can literally walk under the back deck right when you walk past there. Now, there were two doors like some utility doors right there by that AC unit, but it was locked

from the outside, right? That possibly, that thought went through my head. I know nobody's out here under here in this utility area, but you could tell that the lock hadn't been fonder with or anything because I'm pretty sure the, oh, I'm skipping around because things are popping up in my head. There was also a door inside of my fiancee brother's room. It was locked. I don't think nothing was too creepy about that, but it was just a locked door in the room.

And I'm guessing it went to maybe like a hot water heater or something like that that they didn't want someone to have access to. That was crazy. But those double doors, it's not anything that I think they had to do with anything. I'm sure of that. But my point is, man, if you were to walk from under that dead, Let's just say you let's just say 12 feet. After that 12, maybe 15 feet, you're going to slide down that valley, man. That's how much of a steep decline it was coming from under the back of the deck area.

And whatever that was initially when I first heard that, when I went out, stepped out there, when I stepped one foot out there to grab that wine bottle, man, something ran. And it stopped right in that area right at that point where you're about to go down. And I'm like, man, this is, this doesn't, it doesn't make any logical sense. Who would be out here messing with people in a cabin? It's just crazy, man. Dawn, the next morning did you happen to, before you left,

did you happen to look around the outside of the cabin to see maybe if you found any tracks on the ground, around where the tapping was happening or anything to do with the wall on the outside? See, this is the thing. I did check out that wall area and it made me even more uncomfortable because, the area right there is basically a driveway. So there's no way any footprints could have been seen. And even back when you walk back there under the deck area where we were hearing all of this commotion, it's so much leaf foliage because of the location we're at.

You know what I'm saying? This was like the beginning of fall. This was fall. You got orange leaves, red leaves, brown leaves, green leaves. Man, there wouldn't have been a way. It wasn't the type of soil or anything where there's like mud or, It's just hard packed, just a wooded area with foliage and that little area away from under the deck area was just like it wasn't bushes. It wasn't thick like that.

It was almost like that tall grass, that tall brown thin grass. It was like just full of that. And like I said, I have pictures. I didn't take, I have videos and pictures. I'm going to go through them and see everything that's significant pertaining to this. But the only thing that we did see what we suggested. it to be was maybe the smell from their food was still in the car and the bear, I guess the bear, I'm sure whatever the bear, I think it was a bear, I'm going to say it was a bear. It put his hand

on the window like he was trying to press up against the window, but we saw a muddy print on the window and a muddy print on the car, like on the car door. And not like it was pulling it. It was just like something stood up against the car, basically. And they stood out so much because before we went to the cabins, I had just watched her car. So a muddy print on the car is just, it sticks out like a sore thumb. But I'm going to just say that was the bear because we did see that bear

later again in the night like when we were out there. But when we were hearing all of these, this other commotion that was around us, that bear was nowhere in sight. I can guarantee it was nowhere in sight. Yeah, I agree with you, Don. Some of it sounds like potentially a bear,

but some of it definitely I'm saying not a bear. from what I'm hearing from your story. Man, it just feels like there's a lot more that could, man, I would talk to the brother-in-law, talk to the brother-in-law's girlfriend. I'd love to hear their, because they saw some stuff that you didn't see. So I'm going to ask you something, Jeremiah. My brother-in-law is actually, he's actually here. If you want to ask him, if they're up for it.

Okay. Yeah, he'll definitely be up for it now. I haven't talked. I haven't, I'm going down here. I haven't talked to him about any of this. So I want you in the audience to generally hear. I want you guys to generally hear. Now watch this. This is authentic. Just watch this. Jay. All right. So you remember when we went to the cabin, right? I got a guy on the phone. He got a podcast. It's called Bigfoot Society. I reached out to him a while ago. He wants to know what it was you saw when we were on the back of the dead. His name is Jeremiah. Jeremiah, this is my brother-in-law, Jordan. Hey Jordan.

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gray it was like coming up all four it was like standing up but I went inside before I even showed his face or anything

and then let me see okay I told him about that part and then he was just okay what about we were hearing all that movement around

Oh yeah it was like coming from different type of different areas of the woods and then one was stuck

stepped out like on a big logs and it snapped yeah and everything went quiet right

everything just went quiet after that Now, initially before y'all made it, when I called you, tell him about the call. Tell him how panic I was. I thought you were just seeing a bear. Then I saw that big gray, whatever it was. And then your girlfriend, does she still think it's a bear? No.

She believes what you was talking about. And then, you and my sister, her and my sister saw. Yeah, that's why I said I told him, I was the only one who didn't see it. But you were looking at the other side. Yeah, I kept looking everywhere else when we were hearing those noise. And then the taping that. that I told you all about. I was on the Cavendor.

On the wall, man. Like, and I was just telling Jeremiah, I haven't even talked to you about any of this. You know what I'm saying? And then the picture that I found in that little video that I sent, right? You can see the face. Now, Jeremiah, you in the audience, man. Y'all just heard that live.

This is not anything that was initiated. He's in here playing the game, right, man. Like I said, everything that I just sat here and told you guys, he just initialized it because he was there, man. And like I said, I didn't get to see anything. They, everybody else saw it. My fiance, him, and his girlfriend, they all saw something and they freaked out and ran in the house.

And I was frustrated because I'm like, why would y'all do that? You know what I'm saying? But I could understand. He was like, man, I wouldn't about to see, I wasn't about to look and see what it was. So is Jordan still there? Oh, give me one second. I'm sorry. He's there right here.

All right. Give me one second. Jeremiah. I think you got a question for you, bro. All right, Jeremy, here you is. Jordan, when you and your your girlfriend, correct? You said you actually saw the face of whatever it was.

I saw the body. It was standing up. I seen it on the verge of standing up, but I went inside before I could see the face because I got a little scared. I didn't know. Did you notice anything about the body that you could see that you remember?

It was like, it was very furry, big. Like the arms were huge. It was way bigger than the bear. Like I said, it was still standing. We were on the second story, and it was still standing on this way to stand up before I went inside. It wasn't even fully standing up. It was still like, like, if it was just on all fours and you're just getting on twos. When you say the arms were huge, what do you mean by that?

Like the size of a big branch. I was to explain to that. The width of them, like muscular? Very muscular, yeah. Okay. Did you see anything about the length of the arm? at all. Oh yeah, they were they were like at least

six feet long. And what I told him is, where we were is about 15 feet off the for you to be able to see him, it would have to have been at least eight to nine feet tall or taller because like I said he was just still, he wasn't even setting up

fully. He was just getting rising from all fours to his feet. One last question, Jordan. I appreciate you being ambushed like this. Do you remember anything about the head? Did you see the head of the creature at all? Like that shape of the head? It was a big, it was like a size of two basketballs of anything. I saw the head. I didn't see the face. That's pretty awesome, Jordan. Thank you for sharing that. Yes, sir. I appreciate that, Jay. Yeah, Jeremiah, man. I'm not going to say I wish I would have

seen how they reacted, but man, I'm just still blown away about this, man. It's wild. Don, this is a wild one. I'll be very interested once you're able to send some of the different evidence over. I'm interested to see what it looks like, for sure. A lot of listeners really like the area that you're talking about, this whole Gatlinburg Pigeon Forge, blah, blah, blah. Are you able to share specifics as to, it sounds like it's just a place you rented out. Are you able to share specifics about it?

If I needed to get specific as in exactly how, to get to it, this specific cabin. I would love to do that, but that would be something that I would do offline because we have a lot of crazies out here. And I don't want this area being ambushed and bar bar. But all of that information, we can definitely, I can give it to you offline. But I don't feel comfortable doing it on here. But what I can tell the people is we were just in that, literally in that, we passed right by the cabin. And I don't mean like physically passed by it, but this strip, there's a strip in Gatlinburg. The cabin is located in Severeville or Severeville, however you want to pronounce it.

It's spelled S-E-I-V-E-R-V-I-E-L-E. And this is past Dollywood and all of that out there, the main attraction. But so you have Seaverville or Sevilleville, you have Pigeon Forger, you have Gatlinburg. Man, I forgot why we were going to this. Okay, so we were just there. So we actually spent Christmas Eve and Christmas in that's literally in that same area. The only difference is the first cabin where we experienced all of this, So if we're heading toward Gatlinburg, you have to turn down this middle and then go back the opposite way like you were coming to turn right to go up that mountain.

Now where we stayed at this time, if you're going to Gatlinburg, you just go right up this road and pass this. It's like, what do you call it, the little station, whatever, the forest ranger station or whatever. You go past that. The difference in where we stayed this time, we were actually higher up in elevation than the, first cabin, but it was more populated. I have videos and pictures from that also, but the thing is, the other cabin is high in elevation, but at the time, now I can't speak for today, because like I said, this was not last year. This was November of 2022. That area, like I said, we had abandoned, unfinished cabin to the right of it. Okay, hold on. If I'm looking at the front of the cabin,

it's to the right. And we had one neighbor to the left of us, and we never saw that. them the whole time. We saw the car, but we never saw them. Now, the people who were back on the deck flashing down into the valley, they were our neighbors also, but they were only our neighbors because of the location that we were in, and we could actually see them. If I were to guess, they, if, let's just say we were 30 feet in the air, they had to be about 60 because the cabin that they had was a little bigger than ours, because ours was only a two-bedroom. Their cabin, they looked Like they had maybe a five-bedroom cabin and they had a super nice deck on the back. But all of this, man, if you're ever in this area, Jeremiah, or if you're interested, man,

because there's a lot of people that I've heard on your podcast that I would love to get out and just do some researching or whatever you want to call it with, man. But yeah, but if people are interested in this area as far as just traveling, not just the Bigfoot or both, man, it's a great area to come to actually for people who've never been there if they do decide to actually go to Gatlinburg for Christmas or something like that. The whole town of Gatlinburg is open for Christmas, but nothing's closed down. If it is, there's maybe one or two spots, but they make all of their money around the holiday. So that is definitely something that people should look into if they want to come out. They've never experienced being out of the mounds in the cabins. I will not

share the location with anyone but you where we stayed at. But if people want to just a general area, I would definitely be willing to share that part. Which you would say general, the general area you can share on the podcast is like Severeville. Severeviel. Yep. Gotcha. Because I know I'm going to get,

dude, after every episode I get, you guys are always like, hey, tell me where? I can't tell you. Yeah, but this, man, I swear. Hey, look, that's confidential. Right. But there's this older guy, Jeremiah,

from a while ago. And I'm going to just bring it to, to make, the only way I could probably make you remember, because I know you, man, you have so many episodes. There was this guy who I think he had a girlfriend and he was like, I just want them to go away. They slapped the house. They've killed dogs and all of this. Oh, is that kind of? I know exactly. Man, I would.

I would love to. Was that guy from Tennessee? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Man, Jeremy. I don't know if you've ever done it, man. If you can try and see if he's okay with someone else who's had an experience, man. I'm not trying to go and stir up anything. I would love to just go out and just explore their guy's property, man, if ever possible, man. I know he will be. I know he listens.

But, yeah, that would be very interesting, I think, because from what it sounds like, stuff is still happening off and on. It's a pretty wild area, for sure, where he's at. I hate that. I hate that for that old guy, man. That's no way for anyone to live, man. And his neighbors, too. It's the crazy thing.

It's not just him. But Don, it has been such a fun, fun time chatting with you. And I feel like there's going to be more that comes out about this whole night. I just have a feeling that the story is not done. But I appreciate you reaching out to me. Yeah, man, no problem. I appreciate you, man. And I have to give you your flowers, man.

What you're doing, man, is great. Keep up the great work, man. Full force ahead. Don't let anyone stop you, man. You seem like an understanding. guy. Hopefully you and your family had a great Christmas and things like that, man. And it may be a push, man, but hopefully, man, one day, man, we can sit down and talk about something, man, and maybe just set up a camping trip or something, man, because I live maybe about 20 minutes from Okoy River.

And me and my fiance, we like to take our bully puppy and go up into the mountains, get fresh air, and just look over and just on wind up there, man. But if you're ever in East Tennessee, you're in Missouri. Where are you, Jeremiah? Central Iowa. Yeah. Central Iowa. Okay. If you're ever in East Tennessee, man, in this area, man, you do have my contact and my email,

man. If you want to set something up, man, where we can just get out and do something fun, it doesn't even have to be Bigfoot related. But if you ever need some guidance or something fun to do or me to point you in a direction in this area, man, please feel free to reach out to me. Yes, sir. Yeah. And Don, thank you so much for coming on here at Bigfoot.

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