Bigfoot Society - Family of Bigfoot Found in Oregon: A Paranormal Investigator’s True Encounter
Episode Date: November 10, 2025A veteran paranormal investigator discovers what may be a family of Bigfoot hidden deep in Oregon’s forests—and encounters something far more unsettling along the way.For over six years, Darrin Sc...holl and his team have tracked strange activity in Oregon’s wilderness. From thermal camera footage and massive footprints to eerie vocalizations and unexplainable encounters, each expedition revealed new layers of mystery.In this episode, host Jeremiah Byron of Bigfoot Society sits down with Darrin to discuss:How his 30 years of paranormal research led to cryptid investigationThe evidence suggesting a repeating migratory pattern among BigfootWhy his team believes something else is sharing their territoryThis in-depth conversation offers one of the most detailed looks yet at ongoing cryptid research in the Pacific Northwest.Resources: https://www.youtube.com/@d.b.kinvestigations🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072
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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible.
from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways.
The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
These are the voices of the people who've lived it, so settle in because today you'll hear another account
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So stay with us.
All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Darren Shawl today.
He is an individual I got connected to over on the Facebook platform.
And a little background about Darren.
He's been a paranormal investigator for 30 years and a cryptid investigator for the past six years.
And we're going to be talking about really what's been happening during those six years.
Welcome to the show, Darren.
How are you doing today, sir?
I'm doing very good. Thanks for having me on.
Absolutely.
Now, let's start here.
So when you say, just maybe a little background.
So when you say paranormal investigator, are you, for the 30 years, are you the kind of guy that you've been going out in investigated houses that are haunted and things like that, just so we're on the same page as you?
Basically, what I do on that for the last 30 years is houses, cemeteries, locations in the wilderness, pretty much wherever I get a call to go to, to check things out and try to help the homeowners feel a little bit more at ease with their circumstances and in the situation.
station so absolutely and from what i would gather and maybe from what i know a little bit behind the
scenes it sounds like there was some thing that happened that kind of got your focus to go over
to the cryptid side a bit a funny thing is me and my team went up to this old abandoned homestead
the funny thing is I was stopped in the supermarket and some people around town happened to know who I am or what I do and it was a hunter and he said that he was up at the old homestead and he had seen a woman standing in the field calling his name and he didn't feel very comfortable with that so he ended up getting out of that situation so I talked to my crew and I said hey we've never been up there
Why don't we go up there and it sounds like it's a hot spot?
Let's go figure this out.
And so we go up.
We did our initial investigation.
And we had talked to the local historical society and they said the cemetery is down the hill a little ways.
And of course, the cemetery is paranormal investigators.
Let's go talk to them.
These people were treated very horrible up here and they were pretty much abandoned.
So they've got to have a story to tell them.
While we were looking for the cemetery is when we stumbled.
And stumbled is the only appropriate word is we stumbled upon a family of Bigfoot.
And it just took off like a shot.
And that was the start of our cryptid investigations.
Wow, Darren, that's intense.
And I know a lot of listeners right now are like,
Family Bigfoot, that's awesome.
Where is it? So we can say it's an organ, right?
Because we don't want to exactly give out the exact location because over the last six years,
we've been able to go back during certain months, and we are successfully locating and
tracking these things. They have a pad. These Bigfoot, these us watch, this pod, this family,
they have a cycle,
they have pattern that we've been able to track
and we're very successful at every year
that when we go back up during these months
and during these times,
we are running into them.
I'm not saying that we're all friendly
and we don't name them or anything.
We're encountering them every single year
like clockwork.
Some fascinating stuff.
So when you say family or a pod,
which I would assume is the name,
name we're using for the group of them. What kind of individuals and types are you seeing in
this pod? What we found that one day that started this whole thing off was we come across
this little meadow and it's on a little valley and we're up on the ridge a little bit and we're being
loud. We're being your normal hiker. We're just hiking through the woods, talking loud, just being
and obnoxious and joking around
and we're like, okay, we're gonna go find the cemetery.
And we go to where
we were told the cemetery is.
Oh yeah, it's over here.
Here's your coordinates.
We get down to where it is and we're like,
okay, there's nothing here.
And one of my guys looks down,
we're probably about 85, 90 feet away from them.
And he looks across and he's like,
there's something down there.
And we've got thermal.
cameras and we got everything else. So one of my guys with the thermal camera gets a
on thermal camera. We've got one hiding behind a tree and we've got that video on our YouTube
page where you can see a bright hot object hiding behind a tree peeking around. And what it was,
there was two females and two juveniles. We could tell that they were females. And so we're
watching them and they're watching us. I think it was more of a situation of
we all caught each other off guard
and they were just hiding
they were hiding behind trees and peeking around
and we're just
we're staring at them
and they're staring at us
and we got the feeling that
they just expected
the crazy humans just to walk on past
and not really paying any attention
and then they were just stuck there
while we're starting watching them
their hair was just like a dark black
and then they were about
seven feet tall
for the two females
and then the juveniles
were probably about
four and a half feet tall
as we're
staring at them
one of my guys goes
hey we had a whoop at him
and see up the whoop back
so we
started whooping
that's when we got a return
whoop from behind us
and when we turn to
take a look and be like
okay, what's behind us?
We turn back around and we're like,
okay, we can't see anything,
but this is kind of getting more crazy.
Let's focus on the females and the juveniles
and focus on what we can see.
By that point, they had that little moment
to take it off from the valley
and that's where we lost contact with it.
You have two females, two juveniles,
and then you heard something behind you, correct?
Correct.
Because what we've been finding out
is normally you've got
in our pod
the big mail has a central area
of this wider area
because we've done some interviews
with people who have seen
we call him the silverback
borrowing a term from guerrillas
and we've interviewed a bunch of people
in the next town over and they say
oh yeah we just he comes around
he gets in the garbage cans he's by
himself and he's just a big nine-footer
but we have had interactions with other males.
So we're believing that those would be more of the teenagers,
the younger males that aren't exactly the big alpha
that seem to be protecting the females and the kids.
We've had rocks thrown at us,
and we've been hit with that stench,
which we're thinking is maybe like a skunk response.
I'm going to have to fast forward a year here,
We see the females, juveniles.
We get out of there.
We're all taped up.
We're excited.
We give it a year.
Go about our business.
The following year, the next April, we go back up.
And we start finding, like, these nests.
Something had pushed down on these trees and filled them with burns.
And we had been going to start to go on at Bigfoot conferences and trying to learn everything that we could.
and there's one up in the Olympic Peninsula where they've been finding these big hand-woven nests
fill with huckleberries.
And their research says that huckleberries have been medicinal quality for childbirth and motherhood.
Our altitude is too low for that for huckleberries, but bracken ferns grow plentiful.
And if you look at medicinal qualities of a brack and fern, it also has childbirth and motherhood type
ailments that they can fix. It's a good medicinal property.
That's year two. We start finding these nests everywhere. We get rocks thrown at us and it's a bigger
male and it's stalking us. It's walking in the creek next to the trail there and we stop
and we're talking and we get hit with that awful smell. We tried to describe how bad it is,
but it's just this pungent, just bad.
But it didn't linger long.
It just hit us like a skunk would spray you.
So you're aware that, hey, I need to get out of here.
So we kind of looked around and I saw two branches from another tree.
You pulled down and then something pull itself up over the bank.
I didn't get a great view of it, but it was definitely something large,
pulling itself up over the bank, get away from us.
So, yeah, we ended up leaving that day as quickly as we could.
I'm curious, why was it that you waited a whole year before going back up there?
We were still doing the paranormal stuff pretty much full time.
And we had other cases and everything else lined up.
And then it was, we get back around towards January and we had gone up to our local Squatchfest.
And then we started talking about it.
We're like, you know what? We need to go back out there. And also, we needed to have time to learn what we're doing and how we're doing it and talk to people that do it full time and get the research in because we're used to sitting in an abandoned building at three o'clock in the morning talking to a broken radio. And now it's like, okay, now we've got to change our way of thinking to we're going to be out in the wilderness and how are we going to do this and how we're going to do this and how we're going to.
approach this. I think that's very smart of you. A lot of people would probably just be like,
all right, let's hit it hard and not take the time to get that foundation in there. Hats off
to you guys. Is this a thing where you are trying to get footprint cast as well? Try to get any
evidence of any kind when you're up there in the area? We actually have pulled out three different
footprints in the first, okay, you can't count the first year, but the next three years after that,
we've pulled out footprints. We go with the basic logic of, okay, everything that's living needs
water, it needs food, and it needs shelter. We track the water sources. Where's the streams,
where the cricks, the rivers, what's close to here, what's the food supply like, everything's
going to need to eat and it's going to need to water it eventually sometime during the day we've
got to put ourselves in that mentality of okay these are the things we're looking for if the question
that myself and my team ask ourselves when we enter a situation is if we were stuck in the woods
where's the food where's the water that we would be able to survive off of it's been a lot of
homework on our end of the like I said if we're ghost hunting you're in a building you're in a building
You're out of the elements.
You've got a water bottle.
You got a snack on you or something like that.
Wilderness survival.
You've got taken into effect.
Know your weather.
Know the weather turns,
especially up on these mountains that we go on to.
Yeah, it's just been a lot of education
before we started rolling out to do it pretty much monthly.
Okay, gosh.
Now, for the last few years,
it sounds like you're going up there every month,
which is awesome.
Has there been a time when you've been,
able to get a really good look of these saskatch that you have up there.
You mentioned that you were able to see one go up the side of a bank, maybe with a tree,
but have there been any other sightings that you've been fortunate enough to have?
It was the initial, but all we had was a thermal camera.
The one with the male pulling itself up for the bank, we were not rolling any cameras.
So after that one, we started buying
GoPro's body cameras
outfitting ourselves out to the extreme.
Over the last couple years,
I'm going to stress this.
I can't stress it enough.
We are not friendly with them.
We have been run out.
We've had rocks thrown at us
if we get too close.
We don't name them.
I know some people who run into these things all the time,
they name them.
We have,
Okay, let me go three years back.
We were going up.
Local area, it's April again.
We were not rolling on anything.
We had no cameras rolling.
I had one of my team go down a trail that we had never been down before.
And me and the other guy were sitting there.
We were actually charging up our GoPro's, a little solar battery thing.
And we're sitting there and we're having lunch and we're just talking.
And we look across into the swampy area.
And there's a juvenile male peeking around a tree at us.
And I'm like, of course they're coming out right now.
They know that everything's plugged in.
And that one, no, we didn't get anything on camera,
but we did get a good visual of him staring at us.
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On the show, I get a lot of different types of sighting reports, and you have people that see them,
what they saw looked very human.
or what they saw looked maybe more ape-like.
Did it fit either of those,
or was it maybe something completely different than those two?
This pod, this family that we have in following,
they've got more of a gorilla face with a flatten nose, dark hair,
skin color is it's not real like chimpanzee,
and it's not gorilla dark.
It's like a, and in between those two.
Gotcha.
Did it have a certain shape to its head at all?
They got that classic cone on the top of the head there.
That's about the only way I can describe it is it just has that Gimlin Patterson film Coned Head.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
This is something I've never experienced before, but you mentioned that you guys have experienced.
and that's you've been run out of the area at least once.
Can you walk me through what it's like to be run out of an area by,
I guess at least one Sasquatch would be involved?
It's,
the times that we get run out are the times we get entirely too close to a nest or a feeding ground.
The last time we got run out,
we ended up finding a killed zone.
There was just a massive,
bones just spread out over this little area.
There's an elk refuge up in this area, too.
Something had to kill a couple elk and just rip them apart.
And as we're up there, and we're trying to document it, and that's actually where we pulled
another footprint, was right next to one of the bodies.
Some of us started feeling very sick.
We wanted to say it was infrasound, but we can't really document that.
but then there was the rocks being thrown at us.
Started out just small rocks going through the trees.
So you kind of hear something hitting trees next to us or falling at our feet and then it's small.
And we kind of started the move a little bit quicker.
We're like, okay, quick take pictures, take video.
The footprint was still drying.
We're like, okay, we'll leave.
We'll come back and we'll get it in an hour or something.
And as we're leaving the woods and heading down this trail, the rocks are getting a little bit more frequent, a little bit bigger.
We're hearing growls behind us, so it's now become more vocal of you guys need to leave.
Your time is up, you need to leave.
You were somewhere you weren't supposed to be.
So we ended up getting chased probably a good quarter mile back to the truck and just continually having things thrown at us.
when we got to where the truck is,
there's a little creek off to the left-hand side of the trail,
and you could hear something splashing through the creek,
really making it obvious that I'm over here,
you need to be aware, you need to get out.
So we ended up loading up in the truck,
getting a majority of everybody out, safe and sound,
and we came back with just three of us
to go retrieve the footprint real quick.
What was that like going back to retrieve the footprint?
What were you guys experiencing?
Did things rev up when you went back into that area?
Were you able to get in and out pretty quick?
We kind of ran it.
My guys basically parked the truck, and they ended up running down to it,
pulling it out of the ground, throwing it in a rain poncho,
and then running back out as quickly as they could.
I did not go with them in the go back.
back and get the footprint. I was trying to deal with getting the rest of the crew
calmed down a little bit. And they said when they parked and entered the trail, they said there
was no birds, there was no chipmunks, there was no sound. They just felt like they were watched
and they were stalked the entire time. They said they just flat out and ran it just
no cameras, no body cameras, no packs, no nothing, just get in, get out. Can't leave. You
leave this behind, it's a good print.
That's really intense.
What dimensions are the tracks that you've been able to pull out of this area?
The smallest one was 14.5 inches long, by like about 3 to 4 inches wide.
And the longest one we pulled out was 16.5 feet and about almost 5 inches wide.
Gotcha. So 16 and a half inches by five, yeah?
Yeah.
Okay. Wow. Have you guys ever used any of your paranormal investigation equipment in this same area to see if it registers at all?
We've tried to use some stuff. Our spirit boxes really don't give off a lot of anything.
The EMF meters, there's two areas that we get a little bit of a spike to it. But we're not
depending on the type of year is when we try to do more of the sits,
sit down in the woods and just focus on things
because we've noticed that there is now.
There is a pattern to these woods on when things come and when they go.
Now like all the aggressive males go further up the mountain in April and May,
the females happen to leave the mid part of the mountain, June, July, and August.
And then June, July and August, we don't go up there because there's a whole different creature that likes to inhabit that area that we don't like to deal with.
Is that something we're able to talk about at all, or is that just a subject we're not really going to get into?
Oh, we can discuss it for the past three years in the area in the summertime, June, July, and August.
we have been
actively stalked,
chased,
witnessed dogman.
Yeah,
there's a nice little pack of them.
It started out with two
and we were stocked out of there by that one.
We left up game cameras three years ago.
Because we're like,
okay, we haven't really seen much in the summertime.
Let's put up game cameras,
leave them up there a month,
and we'll come back
and try to figure out what's going on with this area in the summertime.
You know, why is all the activity for squatching just dead, June, July, and August?
There's, you know, every time we go up there, there's nothing going on.
So it's like, let's put up game cameras.
We had actually ended up going back up to the old Hon and Homestead do a paranormal thing.
And it was like, okay, on our way back down, we've got game cameras.
Let's go in and grab them and see what we got.
They've been up there a month.
me and my buddy James
go in to where the game cameras are
and we get up to where they are
and we've got everybody at the truck
with the bionic ears and sound amplifiers
and one of them is like radioing us and saying
I'm hearing breathing in the woods
so I'm like
okay we'll make this quick
maybe this is going to be one of the hostile encounters
where they're going to chase us.
Well, grab the game camera,
and I happen to look up into the woods
where the person's pointing to that's right there.
That's when I see a seven-foot-tall bipedial canine.
Got kind of like a German Shepherd head,
and it's staring at me.
So I grabbed the camera and I back out of there.
I'm not taking my eyes off it.
It's watching me.
I'm watching it.
I go back to back with my buddy James down on the trailhead and I'm like, dude, we need to get out of here.
There's some, I'm still staring this thing dead in the eyes.
And he's like staring at the crick on the other side of the trail and he's like, there's one over there.
James has a pistol and he draws it.
I am not armed.
All I have his little hunting knife.
So we start back and out of there real carefully, quietly.
I'm still keeping eyes on mine.
He's looking down and he's looking at it.
We get in the truck and we get out of there as quick as we can.
The next year we went up there and we're just like, okay, beginning of June, should be okay.
No, it wasn't okay.
We're stocked where we found these tracks.
We're trying to find these tracks and they're,
we couldn't cast them.
They looked like big foot tracks,
but they're just the plant material underneath all the trees
or just pine needles and everything else.
We're like, yeah, we're not going to be able to cast this.
Let's try and track it down and see what we can find that we can cast.
And I stayed up on the road because I'm like, okay, I'm going to stay up here.
I'm going to keep an eye out for things.
we wear these shooting earmuffs that amplify all the exterior sounds.
And I hear branches cracking behind me.
And I am armed at this point because we're like, okay, we're getting towards dogmen season.
We shouldn't have something handy.
And I turn around and I see a dogman peered out from behind a tree.
And then I hear a sound off to the right of him.
And there's another dogman.
And then there's a third dogman that pops up and a little bit smaller.
definitely a young man.
The guys come back up
and I have not
drawn any weapons. I'm just staring at these things.
I'm like, okay, we need to go.
He's like
looking in the woods and he goes,
okay, I see that one
off to the left. I go, uh-huh.
And then look over about 20 feet
and then another 30 feet off of that one.
And so he's eyeballing.
He's noticing.
Our third guy, we've been finding this.
We can only estimate that it's a Bigfoot piling trees up.
It's like one of those big teepees style things that Bigfoot seemed to be making from time to time.
So he's like, I'm going to go over here.
I'm going to check to see the progress on that one because it was three sticks.
Then it was like 46.
And he's like, I want to go see the condition that it's in.
So I'm like, all right, just make it real quick.
Then we got to get in the truck and get out of here.
He gets back there and he says, there were three more things sitting around the tepee.
And they were laying in the bush.
And he's like, I could hear him.
I could hear him breathing.
They were snarling.
So we got in the truck and we went further up the hill where all the squats were.
When we came back down, because we got to take the same road in and the same road out.
But we were trying to be funny and decide, okay, somebody had set up some targets at this little pullout for a target practice.
Why don't we stop and we'll do some target practice, trying to make ourselves feel a little bit better?
I think that was pretty much a mistake because we get back in the truck, we shoot some guns and hop back in the truck, and we start back down the hill.
And my buddy Josh is in the seat in the backseat of the truck.
and he's looking out the right-hand side
and he goes there's something running beside the truck
and
well James is driving and he's trying to pay attention
and I go down the window to try to turn around
and get a better look at this thing
and I can't see any details on it
but it's something is definitely running beside the truck
and it's clocking us at 25 miles an hour
and keeping up
Yeah, when I had the window down, you can get a really, that noxious smell of rotten meat and pet urine.
It was just ugly.
My goodness.
So that puts everything in a whole different light.
Now you're not just dealing with a pot of Bigfoot or a family group of Bigfoot in the area.
You've also have this completely different cryptid to deal with.
So to make sure I understand it.
So you're saying that the Bigfoot leave during certain months and then the dog man individuals, they come into the same area.
Now, the funny thing is about before we even dealt with the dogman, I was wearing a Bigfoot shirt.
And I was at the local Fred Myers.
And I was doing the self-checkout and was just trying to get in, get out, get home.
and there was a lady at the self-checkout next to mine.
She saw my shirt.
And she goes, hey, I like your shirts.
Did you happen to know there's some Bigfoot in the backwoods here?
And I was like, oh, yeah, we've been out tracking them for a few years.
And we're trying to understand them.
So I go back to put it to myself.
And then I'm just chitch chatting.
And then she says some and she goes, yeah, the dogmen and the Bigfoot are always fighting for territory up by my.
farm and they are always making such a loud racket at night and it didn't click right
away and I was like oh that's interesting and then she was done with her stuff and she goes
all right have a good day and I'm like okay and I was like wait a minute process process okay I need to
talk to this woman trying to finish packing all my stuff pay as quickly as I can run out the
store try to follow her and now I'm an investigator I need to know more where's this farm
Where is this ranch?
What time of the year is it that these battles are going on?
If you got a wrestling match going on for free,
but you want a front row seat.
But I couldn't find her.
Like I said, what we've been finding is it seems to be that the squatch
seemed to be going up and down and over this mountain
into the next valley because there's a river on the backside of this mountain.
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And then summer, they go further up, and then up and over for the fish run.
Now, the dogmen were trying to figure out what their pattern is.
We actually interviewed a lady this summer.
We went to this little county park.
Just out of the way, there's a legend of a horse thief who was hung.
and people see this guy today.
They'll be camping out, and they'll see a man and his dog
walk around the park, and when they turn on lights,
there's nobody there.
So we're like, okay, let's go out, we'll investigate this one.
We didn't really pack for Bigfoot, didn't pack for Dogman.
We just took ghost gear, and we're like, okay, we're just going to do this.
As we're trying to find the hanging tree,
and we talked to the historical society
and they said oh yeah you go
in the park you take this trail you go back
500 feet and there's the tree
we start getting stalked by something
we're like okay this is weird
people have seen squatch over here
and this seems to be the heart of their territory
maybe it's a squash
we don't see much don't see much
just it's we can hear it
around us in the woods we get back out
we're like okay
do our little thing, get ready to wrap up, and we're walking toward the car.
And one of the ladies that's been camping there for a while, she comes over and she goes,
oh, you guys, ghost hunters?
I saw your gear on your table.
Yeah.
You know, we also do Bigfoot, and there's been some reports of Bigfoot out here.
She goes, oh, I've been here for about two weeks.
I haven't seen any Bigfoot, but there is this giant dog, and she,
puts a handout.
She goes,
it's about this tall
the shoulder,
and she's about
five foot two,
and it's about five feet.
And she goes,
yeah,
it comes around on all fours.
It gets into my dog's food at night.
I have to chase it away.
They want to try to get into the tent.
We're just like,
oh,
this is great.
And then we talk to the camp post,
and they're like,
oh, yeah,
it's just a giant dog.
He's just wandering around,
and it's,
you know,
what dog is really five feet
tall and just roaming free.
We're trying to figure out.
The next step on this whole thing is what's the pattern?
Where are they going?
How are they going?
How are they coming and going?
Why do the big foot go further up the mountain during a certain time of the year?
Do they feel safer?
These things we've got to try to figure out.
Did you say that the campus were rather like whatever about the whole deal?
Like it's no big deal?
Yeah, they said it's been hanging out for the last year or two, and it doesn't attack anybody.
I'll see it four, five, six times a day, just walking through the camp.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, it's.
Then when they described it, they're like, it looks like a wolf, but it's about five feet at the shoulders.
And it's a dark gray with black streaks.
We try to look up dog breeds and have black streaks and are that tall.
And it's like, we're really striking out a little bit.
We like, does it look like a great game?
Is it an Afghan?
You know, like, it just looks like a mutt.
It looks like a combination of a bunch.
Incredible.
Man, so knowing that you've got the two things going on,
I'm sure you guys are protected in different ways when you're going up there.
Yeah, most definitely.
we were asked, I was asked on a different podcast,
when you're fully armed to the teeth,
how are the Bigfoot responding to that?
Again, I don't want to say we're friendly and everything.
We're on certain terms,
but since we've been packing in firearms,
when it's in the April-May months, March, April, May,
okay for example this past may we did what we call the sit we just like okay it's april we're going to get in gilly suits we're going to go and we're going to park ourselves along this ridge at 20 foot intervals
you know we all got cameras we're like okay we know that they're here experience and habit and routine it's just said that yes they are going to be in this area at this time we're strapped for pistols on our side
and in gilly
suits,
we're just hunker down,
like I said,
about 30 feet in between us
down this riverbed.
And what we...
This is another one of the things.
It's kind of hard to define
what it is we heard.
But...
And a bunch of us had heard it.
So we're in gilly suits.
We're laying on the bank,
just looking like logs.
We start hearing this
cooing. And that's the only
word we can use to describe it is
it's a high
cooing.
Like you would coo to a
child. You're trying to calm down a child
a little bit.
Oh, come on.
The best way I can describe it
but I kept getting closer
and closer. And then
it's right underneath the ridge
underneath me. I'm up a little bit higher
on this over ahead
and we didn't feel too threatened by it
I think I was a little bit more spooked
that it was right underneath me
and it was cooing
and I was like
you know what it's right underneath this
it's probably about three feet underneath me
I think it's time to go now
because it's getting real close
but we're just going through the motion of
these things are very
they know when we show up.
Even if we dissent ourselves, gilly suits,
the minute that truck stops and it's a big old diesel,
everything in the neighborhood knows that we're arriving.
We don't draw pistols during the squash season.
We don't even reach for them.
It's primarily during the summertime months that we're a little bit more jumpy.
When you've been sitting or doing the sit up there, have there been any types of other interactions that have happened between you, your team, and whatever creatures are out there at the time?
The reactions with the Bigfoot scene be that, I mean, we, last time we sat there for two and a half hours and then we got the cooing.
Some people will hear branches breaking and something moving slowly.
there might be a little pebble that's thrown at us
just to see if we'll react.
I think if we're posing no threat
and we're just playing like we're a log,
nine out of ten times,
they're just, they'll throw something
and see if you react.
I think it's like a game to the juveniles
at a certain point of,
oh yeah, there's humans over there.
Let's throw rocks, see if they'll freak out and run.
Normally it's just you'll have a few things hit a tree next to you.
You'll get like maybe a little whoop,
little howl in the background.
Once they know that you're not going to react and play,
then they just seem to just go about their business.
Has anyone on the team ever checked for radiation levels in that area with like an RF meter
or been affected in weird physical ways after being up there?
One of our guys has had the constant like vertigo.
He doesn't come up a lot.
anymore just because of fact I just seem to affect him a little bit more as for radiation meters that is
actually on our list of things to pick up for these things now there's been vertigo there's been
feeling just lightheaded from time to time but as long as we're just if it's during the time that
we would normally find a nest we try to avoid those areas because like I said they have a pattern
and they have a routine that they're going to be in these zones at certain times of the year inside their nest.
So we stay clear of the nest during March and April.
We don't go in that part of the swamp, you know, that part of the mountain.
We try to basically just give them the room to breathe and do their thing.
And I would say, and it's just our theory, mind you, that when the females are giving birth,
that the older males are working century work.
So they're the ones that are out in the outer perimeter
protecting the mothers and the newborns.
And they'll normally throw rocks at us.
Again, small rocks.
Let us know, hey, you're not supposed to be here.
Then they'll get a little bit more intense.
But as long as we stay out of those zones,
we seem to get along pretty fine.
They're okay with us.
they're okay with us being there as long as we're not in the crucial areas that we need to be
if that makes any sense no it absolutely does and i would really it's on your list already but i
would recommend definitely getting some kind of rf meter just i think it's a thing that is
definitely being talked about in the community where people are there's joe purdue out of
west virginia they found the actual radioactive bigfoot footprint out there
there in that state.
And I think it's something that needs to be a little bit looked into more.
So I'm glad that you guys are doing that or planning to do that for sure.
Yeah.
Every year it seems to be a growing moment for the team and myself.
The first year, six years ago, when we first encountered them, the only cameras we had
were our phones.
You're only going to be able to do so much with that.
And then it's, we've grown into, okay, let's learn from everybody else, listen to, go to these Bigfoot festivals and conferences and learn from the people that have been doing it for a while.
We've had the distinct honor to talk to Dr. Meldrum for the last couple of years and pick his brain and say, okay, this is what we're coming up against.
What would you think about this one?
So, you know, with his passing, we've kind of lost a resource.
It's like, we don't know everything about these things.
We're still learning about them.
One question has been up to me was,
if you've been run out of the area and chased by dogmen,
why do you keep going back?
And it's like, we want to know.
It's the same thing that drives us to go into these apartment buildings
and stay there until 6 o'clock in the morning.
It's like, I was, I grew up on a Patterson Gimland film,
and my grandmother was from Arkansas,
so there was always the legends and the myths,
and I grew up with all that.
But Bigfoot was never really the goal, I guess you would say.
It's always been the ghosts.
I was just like, I'm just going to stick with the paranormal field,
and that's where I'm going to be,
and then seeing them, seeing the two females and the two juveniles,
it's like, now I need to know more about these things.
So it's, like I said, every single year,
we're learning something new,
writing it down. We're putting it in our
arsenal and going
forward to the next year and okay, now
how are we going to do this? How are we going to do that?
Like I said, we've been casting
footprints when we find them.
We're getting better at that.
The first one was a very horrible
cast, but it's like
we want to know
more about these things.
We just did an interview
a couple months back about a
person in the next town over
and he gave us the exact
location of the big old silverback.
He's like, yep, if you come out during these months,
he sits up on the hill and everybody sees him.
Oh, wow.
And yeah, he said he had the damage to his barn.
He said one night he'd walked out and leveled out a 12 gauge and hit two blasts in the air.
You know, something was out with his chickens and he leveled out two blasts to scare it away.
And the next couple nights, something beat the crap out of his,
barn and but a big holes in it.
We got to look at the barn and there was a big old footprints right next to where
this thing was just beating holes in the wall.
It's like, all right.
And he was like, you know, it's here all the time.
It likes to come in.
He's had to do something new with his chickens and make sure that it doesn't get his chickens
all the time.
He's like, oh, yeah, you go talk to someone.
They're going to tell you the same thing.
Their goats go missing.
This is absolutely wild.
Has anyone, have you talked to any locals that have been able to get like any photographs or video of when they're being messed with on their property?
Nine out of ten times it's early in the morning and they're not really thinking cameras.
They're going for shotguns and rifles because they're ranchers or farmers.
Their livestock is being threatened and their main concern at that point is I need to go out and protect my livestock from.
Getting taken.
We've talked to them, hey, you know what, maybe if you put up some outdoor security cameras,
and if you capture anything, you can let us get a copy of that.
These are diehard country people, just they're out in the middle of kind of nowhere.
They're just, it's an older generation.
They'd rather shoot in the air with 12 gauge than stop and take a picture.
No, that makes total sense.
This has been a great conversation.
I do have one last question for you.
And have you or anyone on your team ever had any form of what you feel is communication with either the Bigfoot or the dog man that are in this area?
I would say the only range of communication we've had was the cooing.
Because it made us feel like it was trying to gauge us on how we were doing.
because we had rocks thrown at us and we weren't moving and we were there for two and a half hours just laying there.
So we feel the cooing was just like if you saw like a hurt dog, hey, buddy, hey, what's going on, buddy?
We feel that was communication, but nothing, no psychic impressions, no, I don't know how else I'll put that.
We just feel that the cooing was, hey, we're just going to, we're just going to check on you and you haven't moved in a while.
dogmen on the other hand
those have growled us and
I can't say anything
psychic just
a lot of fear
it makes sense
and thank you for answering that
well Darren
I appreciate you coming on the show today
is a pretty cool one because
it is definitely an ongoing
investigation from what I would imagine
you guys are still going
there's no end in sight
for this I would imagine
I certainly hope not
because I need to know more, my team needs to know more,
and we've been willing to take more seasoned professionals out with us
to get a better handle on what's going on.
We put it out there towards other people to deal on squatch
and have many more years of experience,
and the offer always stands to anybody that wants to go out.
It's like, yeah, come out.
We know more about this than we do.
We're young in this profession.
We'll give you a time and a place to meet us.
and we'll take you.
That's awesome.
At the end of our conversation here,
you did mention a little bit
that it sounds like you do have a YouTube channel.
Is there a way then that people can keep up to date
with what you are doing?
Are you doing videos about this investigation?
Anything like that?
Yeah, the YouTube channel has a lot of the squash videos
or outdoor stuff or very normal stuff.
It's just not everything.
It's just a YouTube.
dot com slash DBK investigations.
That's great.
I'll make sure to put that in the show notes for the episode so people can check that out.
But Darren, thank you so much for coming on the show and definitely keep us in the loop with
what happens in the future.
Thanks for having me.
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