Bigfoot Society - Firefighter Photographs Bigfoot in Oregon Wildfire Zone
Episode Date: November 23, 2025In 2016, wildfires swept through the mountains east of John Day, Oregon — and a wildland firefighter captured shocking photos of a massive Bigfoot moving through the burned forest.In this episode of... Bigfoot Society (Ep. 961), host Jeremiah Byron talks with Sayra Hall from the Bigfoot Fadez YouTube channel, who spoke directly with a friend of the firefighter behind the photos. Together, they uncover how these images reignited debate over Oregon’s Bigfoot hotspots and the mystery that still surrounds them today.You’ll also hear gripping eyewitness stories — hunters claiming Bigfoot stole their deer, mysterious orb lights in the woods, and unexplained disappearances deep in Clackamas County’s Bigfoot Country.If you’re fascinated by real Bigfoot encounters, Oregon wilderness mysteries, and firsthand accounts that challenge belief, this episode is a must-listen.Resources:Contact Bigfoot Fadez - bigfootfadez@gmail.comBigfoot Fadez Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@Bigfootfadez🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072
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And I'm Jeremiah Byron
In this show we go beyond the campfire stories
To bring you first-hand encounters
From people who say
They've seen something impossible
From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
To quiet farms and crowded highways
The stories come from everywhere
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
So settle in because today you'll hear another account
that just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us.
All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Sarah Hall today.
Thanks for being on the show.
Sarah, how are you?
Great.
How are you doing, Jeremiah?
I'm doing great.
Awesome.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, this is a fun interview for me
because even though I spend all my time pretty much doing the podcast,
I also love watching stuff to do with Bigfoot.
And you are the person behind Bigfoot Fades,
which is really my favorite, I would say my favorite YouTube Bigfoot channel.
Oh, thank you.
And everyone needs to be subscribed to that.
So just a few things about Sarah.
Sarah is a barber from Clackamas County, Oregon, which has a ton of activity in it.
Most listeners will know any town in Clackamas.
I mean, that's your Mount Hood National Forest area, places like what Malala is in the Clackamas, too, right?
In Estacada and Colton, Beaver Creek, Oregon City.
Goat Mountain, all that good stuff.
Do you mind sharing?
How you got into doing the Bigfoot Fades channel and what all is entailed with that?
Yeah, well, actually, it has a lot to do with you, but let me start first with kind of my interest in Bigfoot.
I want to say it kind of started back in 2012, and I was working in Portland at a barbershop over in Selwood that I helped open.
And my brother kept sending me all these, like, YouTube videos and saying, hey, Bigfoot's real.
And he's kind of a prankster type of guy.
I thought he was kind of messing with me, but I realized he was actually being pretty serious.
So I started watching everything I could find on YouTube.
And back in 2012, this is kind of when YouTube sort of took off and started.
There wasn't really much out there.
So I just started asking people that I was cutting their hair.
And I only had one person that told me, hey, I used to be a firefighter down in Sisters, Oregon.
And actually, I got like a big casting down there.
and a bunch of my friends told me that it was, they wouldn't tell me what it was.
And so I said, really, and he was pretty serious.
I, you know, I could tell he was telling me the truth.
And that was the only story I got.
And it kind of just died from 2012 until this year, actually.
I kind of dropped it and didn't have any leads.
Well, anyways, I started working in a few new areas.
And I moved out to the forest of Clackamas County about, I want to say,
five years ago.
And then my brother goes,
hey,
you should start looking and asking people again.
And I thought,
okay.
So I started asking people.
And actually,
so this is how it gets into your channel.
Somebody was telling me,
yeah,
you should actually check out
Sasquatch Chronicles.
And I said,
okay,
so I started watching some stories on there.
And then your channel showed up.
And then there was some stories
that were kind of hitting Colton Malala Esticated.
And I'm like,
no way.
They're out here.
And I'm like looking outside.
Like,
wait,
they could actually.
So I commented on one of your stories and then you reached out to me actually and said,
Hey, I'd love to hear more from you.
So that's where I started collecting stories from other people.
And all of a sudden, they just started flooding in.
And so, yes, my channel to answer your question was basically to help support your channel
and collect stories from other people that have had encounters.
That's, it's, it's so cool.
If everyone that listened to the show did something like that,
Can you imagine? Oh, my goodness. We would be so much further along. But Sarah, the thing about your channel is that you are, it's such an active area, Clackamas County. People, I don't know if you really get it until you go out there, which I did spend some time out there this summer in July. And it is extremely saturated.
the things that you have going.
I would even imagine you can probably go up to most people on the street in certain towns
and say, like, just be like, hey, what's your big foot story?
And they will have, if not a first person account, they will have at least some
secondhand thing that they've heard.
Usually you can get to these areas where the towns intersect the forest.
I would guess, what, 40, 45 minutes from Portland, probably?
Yeah, about that.
Yeah.
Wild, wild stuff.
So I remember the first time I listened to your show,
it's very cool because it has a certain NPR vibe to it
because you could actually hear the sound effects of you cutting hair
as you're talking to the person and about their Bigfoot story.
Really, really cool stuff.
Do you have any favorite stories that come to mind that you've heard over
the short amount of time that you've been able to talk to people about their encounters?
Yeah, I would say my favorite story, because I didn't actually believe it at first,
it was just so out there, was one where a guy told me he was hunting in the Redland Forest
of Oregon City area. He had to go past a gate. He was hunting with his dad, but his dad was
was kind of off in another area, and he sees the deer through his scope, and he gets the deer.
And he said, what he thought at first was a bear came up, and, uh,
tried to take the deer, but when he looked closer, it wasn't a bear. It was like a giant
Sasquot, she said. And he goes, yeah, I just popped off three shots kind of near it,
just to kind of scare it off. And it did kind of a jump. And then it just kind of took off through the
forest. And I couldn't believe this guy wasn't, you know, more like excited about it. He actually
seemed annoyed that Bigfoot tried to take his deer. Right. So that story, I think, really stood out
to me. And again, like it was really hard for my brain to process this new information until a week
later, another man who doesn't know this person told me. He also saw a big foot in that same area
of Viola in the Redland area. And it was just standing in the road when him and his dad were kind of
driving around there. And he goes, yeah, at first I thought it was a man. Then I thought it was an
animal. And when we drove up closer to it, it was just sort of staring at us. And it almost made me
wonder if it was this same real big foot because they were both two years ago in the same area.
Oh, man. Oh, okay. When you're talking to people in areas of Clackamas County, when you're doing your barber thing, have you found that there are certain areas that keep coming up in stories? I have found that myself with areas like Clackamas County and really Oregon in general.
Yeah, I feel like up in that
Tumala Mountain, previously known as Squaw Mountain,
up off of Oregon's Bigfoot Highway,
there's definitely a lot of activity up there.
And I've definitely heard from there,
and then that stretchover into Colton,
it seems like there's just a really hot spot
through that whole area there where all that activity.
And I'd actually like to create a map like you've done
and start kind of seeing where these connect to each other.
I would recommend you do that probably now instead of three years in the future.
Okay.
Like I did.
You're almost done a thousand episodes.
Yeah, because the other day, I try to work on it every day.
I'm like, I think, no, dude, you've got like 600 episodes left to go through for this map.
Oh, man.
But it's really worth it because, Sarah, this is what happened to me when I went out to Oregon this July.
So I'm out down at Oak Ridge.
I'm like, all right, I'm going up to Mount Hood.
And so I'm driving up and over the passes, and I'm going from a subtle lake up to
Esticata area.
Okay.
And through Detroit and stuff.
And this is before the map.
And I was like, I know there's stuff that's happened all over here, but I couldn't
like remember all of it.
I was like, oh, my goodness, this is why I need a map because when I'm out here,
there is so much stuff and like I need to I need to remember okay you need to check out places like fish lake before you get to the the pass and next time I'll be more prepared and I'll be able to look up pretty much all the people I've talked to have you found that when you're talking to people are they more of a certain age bracket are these more younger people or older people or is it really all over the place I feel like most of them I'd say about 70%
are older people. I've got a lot of older hunters that, you know, they don't have the internet.
They come out of the woods every six months for a haircut kind of thing. And some of them I've cut
their hair multiple times before even asking them about it. And very seriously, you know,
they'll tell me, hey, I have seen something back in the 60s or 70s up until recently.
And then there's a few younger people, like the guy with the hunting with the deer. And he was,
I'd say younger, probably in his 30s, a couple of 30-year-olds.
And I've even had some pretty young kids actually tell me that they've seen things at night,
like one in the morning, like three tall black shadowy figures.
And then I had another man tell me the same story in that same area.
Yeah, I think I remember, because your channel at the beginning had the,
was it teenagers that were around the,
the the the was it like woodyard or it pretty much i think it was like right outside of esticata
and they had a sighting yes yeah it's an old abandoned lumber mill that i believe was taken down
it actually feels pretty haunted out there i don't know if i'm allowed to say like certain
tv show names um but it kind of reminds me of a you can do whatever you want stranger things i
don't have you seen stranger things at all totally it feels like that really it feels the energy out
especially uh we'll just focus on like est decay i've gone out there a few times it's it's very
intense out there like you just feels like you're in this all of a sudden this energy bubble when you go
out there so yeah it kind of feels like stranger things
i will agree with you on that um i did go out in that area uh this last july and it's one of those
areas in Oregon, you get out in the woods and things can change really quick.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's, you know, the whole like it gets quiet and things of that, that nature.
And hopefully someday there'll be, there'll be more info that comes out about that trip,
but not quite yet.
Yeah, and I've been going out there since I was like a really small child.
My mom took us to the Mount Hood Forest.
And I mean, since we were like little babies.
And I still remember this one time we went up to the Carver Park.
And she found this actual like wolf dog and took it home.
Oh, wow.
She ended up having to rehome this dog because it was just so wild.
But Estacatas always had like a wild side to it.
And I've been associated with it since just even a small child.
So as far as even bringing wolf dogs home.
Over the years and especially you did mention that you, you're actually, you're
actually live out in the forest really yes yeah preemalino area have you had anything uh the ordinary
happened to yourself out there in that area uh so i've been trying to pay more attention uh i actually
looked up to see if there's any sightings in my area and i did find one from cliff berkson on his
website uh from beaver creek organ and it said it was off uh beaver creek road and upper highland
and so i know where that area is i know it's in you know distance where if there was a big foot it
could get over to my area. And so I started looking around and I found a couple questionable
possible footprints and took some castings of those. I've seen so weird kind of like limbs that
were placed up against a tree. And when I asked all my family, they all said none of them did that.
And I, you know, I've been trying to tell them, hey, you know, they could be Bigfoot and
try to educate them on it. And now they're all kind of going, huh, maybe they are out here.
Oh, absolutely. And I mean, I just, I cannot imagine.
being someone that that lives in that area in just the opportunity to be able to just go out in these areas.
The areas I was going out to in Estaceta, I mean, you'd be on top of this ridge and you would see all these branches and trees just like twist broken like eight to ten feet off.
And I don't know if that's something that you see down in your area, but it is just it's breathtaking the first.
time you actually see that in person, it is wild stuff.
Yeah, I saw one actually a couple days ago for the first time I was driving and they were doing
tree trimming along the very end of Upper Highland.
And one caught my eye, I go, oh my gosh, it looked like a tree about this big and it had
been twisted off to the side.
And so when I came back that way later in the day, I actually tried to get video of it.
But I had a truck behind me, so I had to be kind of quick about it, sort of a sketchy spot
to stop in, you know, private property. But yeah, it didn't, it didn't look right. I've never seen a
tree twisted like that. And then I noticed behind it like a creek waterway. And when I looked at old
street view, it was actually all forest, but it has now been turned into like a scaled down
tree farm for like Christmas trees. If you go further up into Colton, one guy was telling me that
his mom and aunt, I think it was about 30 years ago, had seen a giant big foot run across the way
from them on a few miles up from there.
Oh my goodness.
And this is actually, you have, this is in a video, everything you just shared,
sometimes you'll put out videos where you're like just driving along the road,
which is cool in itself because then you get to see what it's like to drive out in Oregon.
Yeah.
You actually show, I think, video or pictures of that tree that you found, right?
I did, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm always driving with dash cam because I'm hoping I'll catch one run out in front of me.
my luck around behind me and my back dash cam isn't set up yet right right that that'd be cool though
something i've noticed that you started to do which i think is cool and i want to start
trying to implement this myself is you've actually started to get people to come on camera
to share their encounters and uh some of those just seem like they're there people
maybe out walking on the side of the road in town,
maybe not, especially in a barber chair.
But can you share like how does that process work?
How are you able to get those people on camera?
Because it's one thing to get audio of someone,
but to get someone to actually put their face out there,
that's another thing entirely.
Yeah, I feel like, I don't know,
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in sales and my philosophy has always been it doesn't hurt to ask them if they want dessert,
you know. So if you don't ask them, you know, the least I can say is no. I definitely get a
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So, you know, there's a lot of,
of people that don't even want to be on a podcast, but they still want to tell me their story.
And I think it ties back into another thought I've had is that I've seen kind of a split where
some people have a lot of excitement with their story and the other half kind of exhibit this sort
of PTSD.
And I feel like the ones that do you want to go on camera, I sort of lean into the fact I'm feeling
more of that excitement from them.
And even I've kind of dropped the subject with them and they'll come back later and like really
bring it up. So I'm just trying to not be too pushy with people and let them, you know, lead
their story if they want to. Have you ever experienced it where you are talking to someone about
their encounter and their emotional state starts changing rapidly? Have you ever experienced that
yourself? Yeah, I was actually doing my friend Gail's hair yesterday. We were doing a hair color on her.
and she told me a story before non-Bigfoot related,
but it was sort of a ghost story about how she saw someone that looked like,
I think Charles Manson back at her Nebraska house.
Anyways, I was doing her hair again yesterday,
and she goes, you know, the more we've been talking about it,
the more I had this repressed memory that's been coming back,
and I was about five years old, and I was in Nebraska,
and I went off and it was really humid out.
The forest was really quiet,
and I saw this branch just sweet,
swinging like someone had taken it and swung it.
And she goes, I kept trying to want to tell you about this,
but my mind kept saying, no, that didn't happen.
But she goes, no, it happened.
I remember it.
And it was like something didn't want me there.
And the forest just got so quiet.
And I went back to my family as quick as I could.
And I thought about that.
And I was thinking about my own memories.
Like I told you as a child, like, you know,
did I see some weird looking people when I was camping with my family?
You know, you start thinking about these memories.
And it's almost like a therapy session where it starts reopening these locked memories that people have.
No, it really is.
Interviewing the person is almost as interesting as the subject matter itself sometimes.
It is.
That's how I feel.
Anyways.
The encounters that you are taking, and they're primarily, I'd say a lot of them are from the Clackamas County,
area. Have you found any patterns as to like, are there a lot of aggressive ones or there are a lot
where, you know, the Bigfoot really isn't bothered and kind of just walks off and like, hey, see you
later or any patterns like that? I'd say more of them are aggressive, actually, which has me
kind of feeling like I don't know if I want to go out there and physically look for them.
I'm still on the fence about that. I'm kind of enjoying being more on the research side. One
story up in Tumala Mountain was two men went up there years ago. They found a bear that had been
like ripped in half and its head ripped off and it was still freshly bleeding. It was my friend was,
you know, six foot tall and he's jumping over logs and running out of there. They just felt
something watching them. And I'm like, okay. And then I heard another story, I think on your podcast about
a hunter found under a tree that had been ripped apart also by some unknown animal.
Yeah.
And so I'm kind of seeing this pattern with like a ripping apart type of thing.
So that's where the data starts to collect and go.
Because, you know, I've told other people the story and they believe it or they go,
there's no way, you know, it had to have been another bear or this or that.
Well, right now, you know, there's missing people up in that area right now that they have
search parties out there for.
And so when you get these kind of things going on, it kind of starts to hold water.
No, absolutely.
And that's actually a pattern has come up on the podcast too.
And you're absolutely right because, man, to tag on to that,
so your account that you have of the bear being torn apart.
And then I believe the one that you referenced to on my show,
that's down in the Talldega National Forest in Alabama.
But then you also have accounts where,
people are finding grizzly bears out in Montana with their neck's broken.
And the kind of common thing there is that those things take something with hands to do, right?
I mean, to tear something apart or to break something's neck or you have a lot of reports of animals found twisted,
like fox is being twisted, things like that.
I agree with you. I don't think that I would ever, I'll go on record. I will not ever go, especially in that area, out in the woods by myself. I don't think that is a smart idea at all for multiple, multiple reasons. Not just Bigfoot, but there's also some pretty wild encounters you can have with humans out there as well. I've heard some really horror stories about that.
I've heard that too kind of up
that Tumel Mountain
someone said something about
and this story of course I should have written it down
but it was something about there was some kind of
of cult up there that either they
or somebody else and you kind of stumbled upon
and there was some kind of weird animal sacrifice stuff
going on up there and so anyways
yeah they've had a history up in the woods
and Mount Hood of some really odd activity
even still to this day still stuff going on
just kind of different camps going on and bonfires night and sketchy kind of energy up there sometimes
have have you ever experienced um people that have also seen things besides bigfoot but in the same area
maybe uh things of high strangeness orbs or lights or things that are hard for them to explain
besides bigfoot yeah it's buried in my notes like
little bit, but I feel like there's at least two or three stories where there's
orbs associated with Bigfoot sightings and Christmas tree areas and forest areas.
I believe one story, the guy was chasing the orb and trying to figure out where it was going.
And I feel like the color seems to keep being blue orbs is a theme.
I have heard of orange orbs.
One of my clients told me that he's seen one up in, I want to say, Washington area.
And it was kind of floating and then it just sort of shot off in the sky.
that's another orb story there.
And I find those really fascinating.
Oh, I as well.
I mean, and it's a thing where I've never seen a Bigfoot, but, and it sounds like you
are in the same camp.
You have not had a visual yet.
Not yet.
Yeah.
But I've never seen an orb either.
Have you seen an orb yet?
I haven't seen an orb, but there was one night when I was living in Seleud.
They were posting on Facebook saying, hey, the Northern Lights are going to be out tonight,
so you should go out and check them out.
So I was upstairs.
And again, this is around 2012,
and I was looking out the window
to see if I'd see the northern lights.
And I saw these two really bright white lights
that were kind of going like this.
And then they stopped.
And then they started going like this.
I was like, what the heck?
So I ran downstairs,
and I went outside to kind of get a better look
and they were gone.
So that's the only time I've ever seen anything
that actually stopped midair
so calculated and actually went in a different direction.
I don't think it could have been a helicopter.
I chalked it off as maybe government drones that were trying to look at the lights or something, but now I'm not sure.
Okay. That's really interesting.
But it's too far from the airport for it to be like an air traffic control light also.
Good call. Good call. Does anyone bring up anything, any interactions with Bigfoot that would be labeled more paranormal or things like,
I heard a voice in my head or I saw one disappear.
Does that ever come up?
Or is it more like we saw something that looked like a really big ape out in the woods and have no idea what it is?
Yeah, I feel like I've definitely got kind of a mix of stories.
I feel like there was always, there's been this split of people that believe in Bigfoot and then people that don't believe in Bigfoot.
And now the people that believe in Bigfoot, that community has split again into people that believe in Bigfoot and then people that believe in paranormal Bigfoot.
And I sort of sit in the middle as an investigator open to like all these different encounters
because, you know, like I was saying before, sometimes my brain says, oh, that can't be real
until I start hearing more data.
And then I'm like, well, obviously they have to eat deer or something.
So now that does make sense.
So the paranormal to me, you know, my brain of processing it is, you know, maybe we just
don't understand everything the way that we've been told.
So like energy.
I've always been into, you know, personally like my religion and all.
all that. I grew up Catholic and Christian and all that, but I feel like I've kind of segued more into
like a quantum physics type of person, you know, I wouldn't say personally, you know, I'm super
like religious. I'm kind of more into like feeling like there's kind of like stranger things.
Like when they were in that upside down world, I almost feel like there's this other energy world
out there that we're tapped into. And I just don't know that, you know, we know is very much about
it yet. So that's just kind of what my vibe is.
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Have you been able to, I would really recommend reading Dr. Simeon's, Dr. Simeon Hines book, if you get a chance to, it really lays out a lot of cool stuff.
And or the two-part interview that he does on Flash of Beauty.
I enjoy that.
I mean, I love that show.
I also, yeah, you could listen to them on Big Foest Society too, but the two-part interview on Flash of Beauty is phenomenal.
Okay.
I would recommend it.
You had a, so you sent me an email a while back.
Yes.
And I want to, if you could, so it's some pictures that you sent.
and they're really, really interesting.
And can you share the story of how you got these pictures first and what you know about the background of them?
Yeah, so they're actually from somebody who had been on my podcast.
He has two different stories here.
And then I'll look at the story here real quick.
So he is the story on here that's called, let's see, it's the Bigfoot 1996.
as S. Decade a siting. So he had a
citing himself in 1996.
And then his
friend's son
had an eagle cap wilderness
siding that's pretty interesting where he had a visual
where it came out on a road on them.
So that's a great story to check out.
So I followed up with him later.
He actually told me, he goes,
hey, look at this. And I go, what is that?
And he's kind of looking through his phone at first.
Like he's so excited to show this to me.
And so he finally shows it to me.
And I didn't know what I was looking.
I go, what is that?
He goes, it's a big foot.
And I looked at it.
And I looked at it.
And I looked at it.
And I go, oh, my.
And not this picture, but the other one, I actually, when I clicked on the other one,
I could see a face on it, like right away.
And I go, how did you get this?
And he goes, well, it was our friend's friend that's a wildland firefighter that had
sent it to us in our forum.
And he goes, okay, if I share this?
He goes, yeah, absolutely.
Go out, go on it.
And he goes, yeah, he was out there.
work and he's seen a big foot out there just sifting through ashes. And at first my brain was like,
why would it be sifting through ashes, you know? So I started researching why something would,
you know, put ashes on itself. And it said sometimes if you have burn injuries, it could be
healing for heat protection. There was a few different examples that came up. But then if you look at
the other picture and go to the top left of it and kind of zoom in, it almost looks like there's another one
up there watching.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it's the other picture, I think.
The one where it's like,
the other one.
Yeah, that one.
Not the Darth Vader one.
I call the other one the Darth Vader one.
Yeah.
Oh, right here?
Right there.
Oh, my goodness.
It's like a different color of black compared to the tree.
Totally.
So I noticed that.
So something I've been trying to do too is really,
so I also went to school for technology and cybersecurity,
and I feel like I'd,
just kind of have a knack for the tech stuff.
And I've been using AI and Photoshop and all this stuff to kind of really enhance and bring
these photos to life.
So the third photo where you kind of see more of a picture, I went in and cleaned it up the
best I could.
And you could also see almost like a very wide looking nose, like two eyes, pigment of like skin
that's lighter than the hairline.
And I was actually able to use an AI to actually bring that to life.
And I didn't even say anything to AI like, this is a Sasquash or this is, you know,
AI just did.
I just put it in there and it interpreted it, which is really fascinating.
Wow.
Yeah, that is.
I think that's on your channel too, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
And the other thing about this picture is I accidentally clicked on the picture and it was like redo location or something like that.
And then I actually found data on the picture that said it was from 2016.
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And I think sublimity Oregon, and I found the location.
And when I did a Google Earth location of that, it was all burnt down.
So it really just lined up too that it was in a picture from that time.
And there was also a wildfire story on the news from that area, too, at that time.
Which is huge.
And it's because that's something I was going to bring up because I was looking through them as well.
And I was like, oh, yeah, the metadata is all here on these two pictures, which is incredible.
It's actually still in the format that it would be if it was taken on, I believe, H-EIC is more like the Apple one.
for iPhones.
And those two original photos are in there.
The cool thing is that, so you got the GPS coordinates.
And so I looked it up as well.
And the area that it comes up is just east of the John Day area,
which, I mean, fits because I've, personally, I've had three reports.
from that area and usually it's people that are freaked out big time by something and end up
running away or they get like an infrasound activity and it's just some really really weird
stuff that happens in the John Day area but so you're saying that this this actual the guy
you were able to interview the guy about what was happening when he took this photo or
it's just the same guy, different story?
So it's a guy that's been on my podcast's like friend.
Oh, that's right.
Like it's his friend or his friend's friend's.
So it's almost like a hearsay photo that I got from them.
But these are all hunter guys that have been hunting throughout Oregon forever.
And, you know, I'm really good at reading like body language and stuff.
He seemed really like legit about it and really excited.
And I mean, I know Photoshop and there's no way in AI and all that.
that that could have been an AI or Photoshop picture,
especially two really good ones like that,
and especially with the metadata coming from 2016.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, there's nothing.
I see so many photos that come into my email.
There's nothing that jumps out that is saying,
oh, these are obvious fakes.
And I mean, it's just cool, like the one where it feels like it's kind of,
you know, bent over probably getting ashes or something.
I mean, the head shape is right.
It looks like there's not really a neck to it.
The, what you would say?
Like, it just, it feels like it's kind of leaning forward,
although it's probably trying to get the ashes.
And man, it is just, there's some of the coolest photos that I've ever seen.
So people really need to check out the AI movement that you were able to.
to make it to over on your channel. It's pretty cool stuff.
Yeah, thank you. I feel like that one was a pretty good shot there, actually.
And then I did some other AI where I brought Patty to life. And with that one, I also didn't
say anything about it being like, you know, a Bigfoot or anything. I just put it in there.
And then what AI did with it was pretty amazing. And then when I created the video, as I got
further in, I said, you know, give Patty a baby or make Patty like fight the Cougar. But the
first few clips.
They're about like five seconds each.
That was all AI's interpretation of like what it was in the picture.
So you just submit it into grok and then it like just turns it into something what it
interprets.
So that was kind of fascinating.
And I've been doing it for other shots for other people and sending it to them like trail
cam shots.
And then Hugh, I think you've had Hugh on your show before up in Washington.
He's got a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I've cleaned up two things for him.
And I don't want to post it yet.
because I need to chat with him first,
but I've cleaned up a couple photos for him,
and he's pretty excited about what I did there,
and actually turn him into video, too.
So I don't know if you remember the one where he's standing there,
and it's kind of shaking a little bit.
That's exactly what I was thinking of.
It's got to be the video where he's on top of the mountain,
and it's shaky, right?
There's two.
There's the on top of the mountain one,
and there's one where he's scoping from, like, across,
and there's, like, kind of, like, logs,
and it looks like something.
And I immediately, it's like,
I see a face on that.
So I cleaned it up, cleaned it up, cleaned it up.
And it almost looks to me, almost like a longer face, Bigfoot with like more of a cinnamon color hair.
And my theory, too, is like maybe have some that have rounder faces like Brad Pitt, longer faces like Nicholas Cage.
Maybe some are getting mistaken as dog man.
I don't know, but I'm open to kind of understanding these different face shapes with them.
Nicholas Cage, Bigfoot would be cool.
Yeah, I think so.
That would be pretty soft.
That would be rocking.
A lot of emotion.
Yes.
Maybe not.
Do you ever get stuff from, does it all seem to be pretty much from Clackamas?
Or do you ever get stuff from like Detroit in a little further south?
Blue Mountains.
Okay.
Yep.
And yeah, so that was one older hunter, I want to say, in his 80s.
He said he's seen one over there back.
And it was either the 1960s or 1970s.
And I asked them, well, you know, what did it look like?
And he goes, oh, well, it was just, they're huge and they're multicolored gray like a wolf.
And he said, my son-in-law didn't believe me that I was seeing him down there.
But since I'm older now, my daughter told me that he has to go hunting with me.
So we went somewhat recently, I think he said, and they were in their RV.
And the son-in-law believes him now because one came up and was shaking the RV and messing with
them. And I just went over to the Bigfoot Research Center and they have a cool map in there with all the pins on there.
And Blue Mountains were a really hot spot. So, yeah, absolutely. Blue Mountains are an extremely active area 100%.
When you're taking encounters, does stuff come up where it's not Bigfoot, but maybe, well, let's say, do you ever get anything?
like dog man from the same area.
I feel like there is one dogman report.
I'm trying to remember which story that was,
but there was another one where it was actually the first interview I did.
And I was just sort of kind of joking around.
Like, maybe I'll do a Bigfoot podcast.
And I had kind of a younger kid that day.
And I said, hey, you know, do you want to,
do you have any Bigfoot stories?
And he's like, actually.
And I thought this kid was like making it up at first.
So this story gets kind of wild.
He goes, actually my uncle saw one on his trail.
It was a baby Bigfoot, you know?
And I was like, really?
You know?
And he goes, yeah.
So he's actually my first interview on there.
Really cool, really cool kid and everything.
And so later, I don't know, it was a couple months later.
I was cutting this guy's hair and I was talking about Bigfoot.
And he goes, yeah, I actually caught one on my trail cam.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
Is this your nephew?
And he goes, yeah.
And I go, no way.
So he's looking and looking through his phone and he showed it to me.
And I seen it.
And I begged him for that picture.
And he's like, oh, I'll give it to you.
Never got the picture.
but I saw it.
And the best way I can describe it is it kind of looked like a little very black Mickey Mouse
running through like a wood pile.
And he said he took it up to the North American Bigfoot Center and two out of three
people there said, yeah, you caught a baby Bigfoot.
And when you look up like baby gorilla, the shape and the darkness of a baby gorilla was
like really spot on.
And I asked him if he had had any other pictures.
And he said, yeah, he caught kind of, I forget how he described it.
But it was sort of like a dog man, something crawling on fours type of deal.
So, yeah, I was just talking to my brother about that last night because he's a big, big foot believer.
But he hadn't even heard of dog man before.
There's a lot of people who have not heard of dog man.
So I'm really starting to kind of see if I can collect anything in that area.
Right.
It's a wild thing.
You know, that stuff does come up on the show.
here too. If it's like, I never go towards it by itself, but like if the person is like,
oh yeah, I saw a dog man too, like, okay, let's talk about it, you know, and if it comes up organically.
But, I mean, I was talking to one dude and about the Detroit area. And it's not just like a ton of
bigfoot they have there. There's also a lot of dog man sightings as well. In Detroit?
Yeah, kind of north of Detroit out on one of the roads.
Not the Oregon Bigfoot Highway Road that goes to the east,
but like just a random Forest Service Road that's north of Detroit.
And man, when I drove by, drove through that area,
that area is nuts.
It's just, there's a very intense presence.
It's hard to explain when you drive through Detroit.
and I'll tell you what,
people really don't want to talk about
Bigfoot there.
I tried talking to some locals.
They were not having it.
They were like, nope.
Really?
Oh, yeah, it was really intense.
Yeah, most places I would talk to people out there
try to, they'd be like, oh yeah, totally.
Let's talk about it.
That was like the one place where they were just not on board.
So that makes me realize that any interviews I get
from the Detroit area are,
it's a pretty it's a pretty lucky deal for sure um yeah i've been over there uh i'm trying to think
what opal creek and hiked up in there and it definitely feels pretty wild up there and i've
experienced that with people too that were all of a sudden it's just there's like a shift in energy
when you kind of bring it up and they're like oh no we don't know it's it's like you're you know you're
asking them like hey how was that when you went to war and they just get all of a sudden shut down and
that PTSD you know you just see it and I see a difference between that and between like the ones that
just don't believe it or you know I want to respect people's religious beliefs there's some people
have told me they just don't even want to entertain it because they like to go out hunting in the
woods and they don't want it to be ruined for them that's one guy's exact words for me and I said
that was interesting so I've kind of learned how to navigate around different characters and
kind of what they're comfortable with.
But I've definitely felt that, you know,
that stranger things vibe again in some towns where,
you know,
that's kind of gone on.
Like there's this old barber and Esticated called Millie Kiggins.
I don't know if you've ever heard of her.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
This is in the,
it's actually in the Oregon Bigfoot Highway book by Joe Beeler.
There's a big section about this person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Ray Fender,
he was talking to me about her,
the one that saw the,
the Bigfoot Nestaeda when he was a young child.
I think that was one of your favorite stories.
I talked to him first, and he was telling me about Millie Kiggins.
And when I was reading it in the Orkin Bigfoot Highway, it was saying that they had to
kind of like shut people out of that town because she brought so much activity there with it.
And then she started to get people saying, we're going to kill this thing, this and that.
She's like, no, no, no, you're turning, you know.
And it's just like one of these movies that you watch where she finds this cool thing.
and then people have to ruin it and oh, I'll kill it, you know.
And I've actually had people say the same thing to me.
I've had, you know, hunters go, if I see one, I'll take it out.
And I kind of get, you know, defensive with them and say,
it looks like a person, though, that every encounter that people have had,
every single one I've heard is that it has a face of person.
You really think you could, like, do that to a person.
Like, well, you know, I go, no, you don't want to do that.
And I go, also, they're protected by the government.
You know, I've had hunters tell me that.
They go, low key.
if you do something to them,
they're going to,
yeah,
they're going to show up at your house.
So don't do that.
I'm warning you,
if you do see one,
you better,
you know,
prove that it was defense.
So leave them alone.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean,
there are some areas in the U.S.
where it is like written down.
Like,
if you do this,
like Schemania County,
Washington is one, right?
Like,
it's a fine.
And I think,
I think worse than a fine,
actually.
Yeah.
Man,
if I had a nickel for the people that I've had to convince not to do that too, I'd have a few
nickels for sure.
It's just the thing where, well, that, what you said, and then also on top of it, it's like,
you try to do this, you're probably not walking away.
I mean, the chances of you walking away from this are so, so slim.
So it's just not a good idea around, around it all.
don't do it, you know, for the creature and for yourself, you know, just walk away.
Well, yeah, and it kind of goes back to the people that are missing, you know, up in the Malala
forest.
There's a hunter missing right now in S. Decatur.
They've had the best SAR search and rescue teams in Oregon looking for this guy right now.
And supposedly last week, he caught a deer and I think it was on his gamma, like satellite
radio, according to his Facebook post I saw.
He said, hey, I got the deer.
I'm coming home early.
And then there's so much hearsay with this story.
So I'm trying to keep it to the most facts that I've seen.
They thought they heard three SOS shots at night.
So they've been out there every day with thermal drones, drones, ATVs.
That rock is really unstable.
It looks like they're rock climbing with cables just to get down in their search.
They've had the National Guard helicopters and they're looking for this guy.
There is no trace of him or the deer at all.
It's just he's gone.
And I'm not saying it's Bigfoot or anything, but it is an area I have had
multiple sightings up there. And I do have the other report of Bigfoot trying to take a deer
from another guy. So I wouldn't rule it out that. And a week before that, I had another hunter
tell me he went up there at 6 a.m. and had a giant mountain lion just jumped down on the cliff
down on him. So there is a note up in S.C.aida saying, watch out. There's a big cat up here.
But I don't know. I think a cat, if, you know, so I don't know. I hope they find the guy.
Hopefully he's alive. But I'm just saying there's, there's mysterious stuff going on.
There's another guy.
It was up in Colton that's been missing.
I'm trying to remember his name, but he's, yeah, up in the Colton Malala for us.
He was up there looking for deer sheds, and they still haven't found him experienced Woodsman,
and they just found his truck up there.
And that was a couple years ago.
And I found out about that because one of the local people told me, yeah, like I was going to call missing 401 and get a hold of David Politis.
but I don't think the guy's sister ended up doing that.
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Still never found that person.
Yeah, the first one you mentioned, well, you sent it actually to me pretty,
pretty quick after it, it was out there.
And then I've been, I've been keeping tabs on it.
Because, yeah, as you said, I mean, it's an area where we both get a lot of reports from.
And I think I even read, I read a few interesting things.
I read that it's at the point where they're not able to continue or do a continual active search, I believe.
Like they, you know, eventually gets to the point where they have to.
pull back a little bit.
Yeah.
Which is really sad.
I hope they find a guy.
There's so many cases like that that happen, but when you hear them happen in certain areas
of places like Oregon or Washington, it really does make you think, like, okay, what is
the story here?
Well, yeah.
And then it's tricky with trying to give support, like saying, hey, this is evidence that
I have of the area.
It might help you in your investigation and not be laughed at because there is.
some comments where I put out there to kind of help support it. And of course, you know,
people weren't taking it seriously. So I removed them. But there was one group that I'm part of,
it's kind of like a police group on Facebook. And they don't put up with any kind of, you know,
online bullying there. So I left my comment up there to saying, hey, I do have a podcast. I just
want to let you guys know that there is activity up there just to give them a heads up, just to keep
that in mind, at least. And I've noticed a lot of other people on this specific thing going on
right now this week have been commenting the same thing, saying Bigfoot took him,
Sasquatch took him.
And I want to be really respectful and thoughtful to the family.
But I also, you know, want to support any evidence that I have collected in the area, too,
and just say, just to you guys know, there are those up there too.
But we're kind of on the fence of everyone, you know, not really being aware that they're even,
they exist.
And this kind of falls back into these conversations I have with people daily.
And they kind of ask me these same questions again, like, why don't we have
pictures, why don't we have this, why don't we have that? And when I start answering all these
questions, they kind of stop and go, wow, because they realize I've done my research and I
haven't answered to a lot of those really basic questions that everyone usually asks.
There's other things I've heard about other recent missing person cases in the Pacific Northwest
where, yeah, there are certain search and rescue individuals that I think they know that,
yeah, there's Bigfoot activity in these areas. And it's just, it's just interesting. It's
hard to talk to those people because usually they don't want to come on record. It's totally
understandable.
Yeah, and I mean, there's definitely that going on right now where they had the first five
days where it was only the Clackamas County sheriffs and then the search and rescue and there
and then the National Guard. And it was, I was reading the locals' comments on the SECato
locals page and they were talking about how it was very hush-hush and they weren't being
giving very much information and all the local.
hunters wanted to go in there and help and none of them were allowed to go in and a lot of
people were really upset about it.
But then a lot of people are saying, well, it's because they don't want them to have another
person they have to go look for and all this, you know, like the generic things you would tell
the public.
Right.
But then, of course, I'm kind of wondering, you know, are they possibly sitting on any other
information like what you're saying that would be another reason why they wouldn't
let people in there?
Like, they want to go look first.
I don't know.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, to me, it comes down to things.
three options. It's either, as you said, we don't want to go looking for another person or two,
you're going to mess up evidence out there if we have more people. Or three, we're also trying to
do information damage control at the same time that we are trying to look for someone, which,
you know, I think those are, that's three options for sure. But yeah, who knows what we'll find out
eventually in the future. I think
all it takes is one person
to share the right
thing or to share like the game
cam photo that you saw of the baby
Bigfoot, which is incredible.
My goodness.
I can't imagine seeing that.
But I have a few
areas. I'm just curious
if you've heard
anything about them.
One is, have you heard
anything about the
Hilock, Burn, Road area, or Goat Mountain?
Yes, definitely.
Yeah, those come up a lot.
There's actually a lot of stories.
Sometimes when I'm super busy working,
sometimes I'll do 12 to 15 haircuts a day.
I don't have time to sit down and write down notes for everything.
And there was a while there where I got them.
But I know that those ones came up,
not just the people that I got my interviews and notes,
but there was even more outside of that
where some people said, oh, yeah, back,
I think 20, 30 years ago, I found giant prints.
I went up into Goat Mountain.
The guy told me, and he came down,
he found some fresh, really giant prints up on Goat Mountain.
There's been talk of military sites up on Goat Mountain,
secret military sites, stuff going on up there.
Really?
Oh, yeah, all the locals, Eskate area, they talk about it.
Some get laughed about it, but a lot of the old school people have kind of
told me some stuff about that area.
So, yeah.
Yeah, there's some black van activity up there type stuff.
There we go.
Supposedly.
This is what I heard.
I haven't seen it.
Allegedly.
So, yeah.
Let's get the episode shut down.
Even where I'm sitting right now, I can actually see a couple towers.
And I don't think that's the goat mountain, but I can see, you know, so, you know,
sometimes I'll even kind of look out there and go.
Do I see any helicopters and stuff?
But, yeah, I mean, if you just don't know, you don't know.
but once people start telling you, can I go, oh, no way.
But there's been kind of a rich history.
And then Hillock Burn, yeah, I feel like people still go hunting up there to this day.
A few of my friends go up there and go hunting.
And I think that 1996 story might have been up there.
They were up there at night.
And then they seen, I think it was either Hillock Burn or Wildcat Road.
Wildcat Road is another really popular one, which I think goes down into Eagle Creek area,
which had a lot of activity too.
and yet they seen one kind of run across the road
when they were out there partying at night,
some dark figure.
So yeah,
I feel like,
and then Colton,
once you go past that,
you have Colton.
There is one story of a man telling me he grew up in Colton,
and he used to visit this older man's house as a child,
and the older man was telling him that he was actually feeding the big
foot over there.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
So,
and that story,
that was kind of a hard story for me to get,
He didn't want to do a podcast or anything, but that was one of the ones where it was, he was kind of shut down, but he kind of wanted to tell me, but he kind of shut down.
And, you know, and then he did want to talk about it.
And, I mean, that's huge, you know.
It's a big deal.
Yeah.
I mean, half the stuff that I hear does not get recorded and does not get put out in places like the podcast, 100%, which I'm okay with.
It is, we both know how hard it is to get someone to actually go on record.
I think the biggest PTSD situation that it was pretty intense.
I had one guy do my podcast and his story is still up there.
It's the one with the metallic box.
Oh, yeah.
And yeah, he had a hard time with it afterwards and came and found me and just kind of said,
hey, I think, you know, they're after me.
My phone shut down.
My bank cards are shut down.
da-da-da-da-da-da, and you know, me being the tech person.
I said, here, let me see.
Because, you know, of course, I'm like, I don't know.
This is really hot.
And he shows me his phone.
It's, like, locked out.
And he got a hold of me later and said he thinks he might have just done multiple
attempts.
And I go, and I was trying to reason with him.
I go, well, how come my phone's not, you know, shut down?
How come my bank cards aren't shut down?
But I could just tell whether it was happening to him or not.
You know, I didn't want to tell him I didn't believe him.
I'm just trying to be a supportive person.
But I realize how much PTSD, because his story was really intense.
tense because it was up on Larch Mountain.
And he went up there and he's seen this giant Bigfoot holding this giant metallic box.
And he said these two people came out, walked out behind the Bigfoot.
And it was just him and his friend up there.
And there was no cars parked in the parking lot.
The only back road was like seven miles in another direction.
So they would have had to come that way.
He said they were just dressed in like hiker, like, you know,
Columbia sportswear like light jackets.
Yeah.
And he said something to him about it.
And the story is more detailed on there.
but did you see that figure?
And they go, oh, yeah, it was a lady in a fur coat.
And they kind of leaned in and kind of gave him this impression
that they were going to throw him off the cliff.
And this guy, I mean, his intensity with the story,
it was very traumatic for him.
And he was really worried about it.
And I'm not sure what was going on with this metallic box
or these people that were trying to convince the guy
that it was actually just a lady in a fur coat.
But that one is pretty interesting.
And anyways, yeah, he got a hold of me.
later and about the phone and everything.
And he said he got it working, but I just tried to calm him down.
And I told him, you know, it's okay.
I know I understand there's a lot of people coming out now.
There's so many people coming out now that you'll be okay and you'll be safe.
You know, a lot of us have been worried about, you know, asking questions or coming forward.
But I think there's just too many of us now that at this point, it kind of is what it is.
So you'll be fine.
And he was okay with it.
Yeah, 100%.
It's at the point where the analogy I use a lot is like, you keep putting, you put
putting stuff in the bathtub, eventually it's going to overflow and you can't control it.
And I think we are like, the UFO community is definitely there.
We are like pretty much there with all the different shows and podcasts.
And as long as people can just keep on putting out, I think it's so important to get the actual person recorded and telling their own story,
which that's why I really like your channel is because you do that.
It's what I try to do with mine as well.
It is so important to get that person actually recorded.
So Larch was actually, that was the next place I was going to ask you about,
because Larch and Bull Run Mountain, or no, Bull Run Watershed,
which is close to Larch Mountain.
Yes.
Some interesting stuff that's come up on the show.
Has Bull Run come up on yours?
I think it has.
Bull run in Sandy.
I had one guy.
He said he was going to reach out to me and he just kind of ghosted me.
But he said he goes over to his friend's house somewhere in that kind of bull around
and Sandy.
He actually showed me the exact location on Google Maps.
But he said they hear him out there every night pretty much.
And then really close to that is a camp.
I don't want to say what camp because it involves younger people.
But they were out there.
And this younger girl, my client's daughter, was telling me.
that they were out there and they saw these really tall kind of red eyes above this sign at a camp out near Sandy.
And then in the morning they found like a giant like footprint.
And she just didn't even really care too much about the story.
That's something I thought was interesting.
She wasn't really even excited.
It was just kind of like, yeah, we saw something that last night red eyes and big footprint.
So.
Yeah, it's just a, it seems like in places like like this part, Clackamas County, Oregon,
in southeast Oklahoma, it's like people,
there's a lot of people
are like, yeah, we just, we deal with it.
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Yeah.
There's one other area.
I don't even have it on my map yet.
have you ever gotten anything from you know like you're taking 26 out to mount hood and you start going through places like mount hood village and zigzag and stuff uh towards mounthead zigzag yeah yeah but like out in the woods off the road have you ever gotten anything out like rhododendron and stuff like that government camp i don't know i don't know that i have anything out there quite
quite yet. I feel like there is what Indian Henry and then Timothy Lake, there's stuff up there.
There's one guy that's, yeah, one guy was saying his grandma saw one at Timothy Lake eating cockleberries.
So that's kind of looking at the map here. So that's kind of in that direction towards, yeah, towards rhododendron.
Kind of up there.
Zigzag and I think it's Lolo Pass Road. Yeah, East Lolo Pass Road has one of the weird
stories I've taken on the podcast. It's the one where the guy is, uh, is camping out there with
his buddy and long story short, they get down by this creek and pretty much they see a,
a big foot that turns into a, um, billowing, uh, cloud, a billowing black cloud and then it like
goes across the creek. It's really weird. I think I heard that story. Yeah. I've heard that
happen something similar to that out in West Virginia too. So I don't know if that's another thing
where they can like shape shift in the in the dark clouds. Who knows? But is that the one where
he said it was like a panther or something? Like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was up in the zigzag for
it. That's right. Yeah. So definitely if you ever hear anything out in that area, let me know.
but my goodness, Sarah, this has been a really fun conversation.
And thank you for spending some of your time chatting about Bigfoot and what you have been privileged enough to have people talk to you about.
Because it is very cool what you do out there.
And you're just, you're really at ground zero.
And I'm so glad that someone with the right heart is out there to be able to document what people.
are doing in a respectful way, which is what I also try to do on the show.
But how can people reach out?
Is there a way they can reach out to you, or how should they keep up to date with the channel?
And if you'd be able to share about that for a minute.
Yeah.
So on YouTube, you can find my YouTube channel's Bigfoot Fades with a Z, FAD, EZ,
which is after, you know, barbering doing haircut fades.
So Bigfootfades at gmail.com.
And I'm really interested in helping people bring their photos to life and help clean them up.
And, of course, I don't charge or anything like that.
I'm just trying to help people out.
So that's kind of been my support to the community, anything I can do there.
So if anybody has anything, they want help with, I can always try.
I've also been doing animations and stuff for people just for fun.
It's another great way, too.
So if somebody wants to tell their story, but they don't really want to go on a podcast.
instead of me retelling it, I can create an animation to retell it,
which is kind of a fun way to show it.
So I've been using SORA too for that also.
Oh, sure, yeah, absolutely.
So, yeah.
I was going to tell you, too, I did have, was it Henry Frenzoni that passed away?
Well, Henry Fanzoni passed away last year.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did have one guy that told me he worked in the, I think it was the Trojan plant.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
a long time. So I got to ask him some questions, like follow up on that one. And I was just kind of, I think Henry said that they were, were they living down in it, he thought, or in the area.
He was looking into supposed tunnels under, under the Rainier area in Trojan nuclear. He thought that they were down in the tunnels, yeah.
Yeah, this guy did tell me there's tunnels there. He'd been down in them. So I asked him if he'd seen any evidence of them or anything. And he had to, and he had to, and he had.
see anything, but he did say there were some pretty vast tunnels under there for sure.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
And he said that it was very secure, too, that they would have people come out from the government
to test the security of it.
And it was some kind of weird story where one guy, he was like secured enough.
He could, like, jump through this fence or something.
It was a weird story.
Yeah.
So there was some interesting stuff with that area over there for sure.
And then timber organ, that was another story I had to where a guy had heard vocals where it sounded like they were speaking in Russian.
And when he went out there, he said that he just heard him and it sounded like they were building something with like giant logs and they were talking to each other.
And he just felt instantly sick like a pain in his back or stomach, like potentially like an infrasound like type of took over him.
so that was another and that's pretty close to that kind of trojan area so kind of rainier timber
organ interesting well sarah you know i always have an eye out for a new episode from from your show
look at that Siri just activated said sarah not Siri dude my phone's being weird uh but but thank you
so much for coming on the show and it'll be fun to see what you get into in the future. I hope
that you're able to continue documenting Bigfoot interactions out there in the Pacific Northwest
and we'll have to maybe check in with you sometime in the future. But thank you so much for
coming on the show today. All right. Thank you, Jeremiah. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say
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