Bigfoot Society - Five Sightings in Two Weeks: The Bigfoot That Wouldn’t Leave

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

What happens when a 13-year-old girl looks out her bedroom window and locks eyes—just six inches away—with something impossible? In this chilling and emotional episode, we meet Sandra, a lifelong ...North Alabama resident who experienced five encounters with a Sasquatch in just two weeks back in 1972. From face-to-face stares through a window to watching a black figure peer into her family’s chicken houses, Sandra takes us through vivid, terrifying moments that stayed with her for life. We revisit her farm—stocked with fish, livestock, fruit trees, and caves—and explore the strange patterns that continued decades later, including fresh footprints, whoops in the night, and handprints left on glass. You’ll also hear about the local church revival that was shut down by a peeking Bigfoot, and what Sandra’s family wouldn’t say out loud.Set near the edge of Bankhead National Forest, this is more than just a Bigfoot sighting—it’s a multigenerational mystery wrapped in Southern tradition, Cherokee ancestry, and the deep woods of Alabama.Resources: Wood Walkerz Youtube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@woodwalkerz🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereGoodchop (Better Meat): Check it OutSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:35 Tonight's story isn't about a hiker or hunter, it's about a 13-year-old girl on a quiet Alabama farm who looked out her bedroom window one November night and locked eyes with something that wasn't supposed to exist. For two weeks in 1972, Sandra saw it again and again in the chicken house by the pond and once just six inches away, separated only by a thin pane of glass. And it didn't run or growl it just watched. This is a firsthand account of terror, family silence, and a farm that became a buffet for something wild. And decades later, it's still happening. This is the story of Sandra from North Alabama.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Sandra today. Sandra's an individual that I've reached out to through Facebook. And she did agree to coming on the show to share what she's experienced down there, first starting in North Alabama over the years. But Sandra, it's great to have you on the show today. How's it going? It's great to be here.
Starting point is 00:02:37 going great. Can't complain. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, I know there's a lot to go over, a lot of things to share. So, you know, I'm going to go ahead and make sure that you have all the time that you need. And we'll maybe be talking along the way as you're sharing. But feel free to take things from here, Sandra, and bring us back to when this all started happening for you. Okay. Well, the first sighting that I had was in November, the second week of November of 1972. I had just turned 13 years old. And we lived on
Starting point is 00:03:14 180 acre farm in North Alabama. Some people say North Central, but it's really more North Alabama. We're about an hour and 15 minutes from the Tennessee line. I can give you a little brief description of the farm. We had chickens, chicken houses,
Starting point is 00:03:31 cattle. I can't guess the number of head, about 100 goats. five fish ponds stocked with catfish, bass and brim. We just had a plethora of food. We had a huge, probably over an acre of garden every year. Plus, dad had a hog operation. I think we had just started that at that time.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And so it was a nice, cool, crisp autumn evening. And being a teenager, I like to go off by myself. and I watched, if people listening, remember Dragnet, I like to go back to my room and watch Dragnet while I did my homework. Well, Mom called back, you know, yell back and said it was time to get ready for bed. So I started getting dressed, put my pajamas on, and I felt like something was looking. You know how you get that feeling that somebody's looking at you. And I just had a feeling somebody was staring at me.
Starting point is 00:04:32 and grandmother we had I showed a room with her and we had the windows cracked about five inches at the top and she had these boil which were very sheer curtains yellow curtains hanging over just to get the air through the house and I stepped over to the window and looked and there was this huge head big eyes and I thought at the time that just immediate my immediate it thought was, that it was our neighbors pranking me. There was two teenage boys. One was a couple years older than me, and one was a couple years younger. And I yelled at them and called them by name and told them to go home. Well, when I yelled, it blinked its eyes. And when it blinked its eyes, I could tell it was not a mask. It was a real creature.
Starting point is 00:05:28 The eye itself was very large and black. But when it blinked, you could see the tiniest bit. of white in the corners. And then I realized that it had a, I mean, I just kind of froze. My face was probably five to six inches from its face, because I got right up in its face when I was thinking it was the neighbor, and I'm screaming at it. It never moved.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It didn't run. It just blinked. And it had a nose. I've always compared it to the pictures of the Neanderthal man. It was totally black. It was a coarse dark outside. So I really can't tell you the shape of the head. And initially, I thought that the head was smaller than now I now realize that it is.
Starting point is 00:06:17 So it had to be at least a basketball, if not larger, because we had single pane windows over a single pain. It didn't have any of the divisions for the pains in the window. And we initially when I had spoke to another group, I had said that I thought it was six and a half feet tall. And they pointed out how houses were built back then. And you're being a childhood memory, I didn't think about that. Okay. I'm sorry, my son is baking cookies. He has autism and that's what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And so, okay. and they pointed out that, you know, they built them with the concrete blocks probably three or four up for the cross space under the house, and then they had a rim joists. So I'm kind of breaking from the story explaining this. My husband and I rode back over to the house I grew up in. It's still there. And the only difference is they changed the color of it. So they were right. It has the blocks and the rim joists.
Starting point is 00:07:25 So that adds about two feet to the height of what I thought it was. So that put it being close to eight feet tall. And that really put a shutter through me. That scared me giving that much more. But it stayed there. It didn't move. I was afraid to say anything to my dad because I was afraid of him going outside and being injured by it or something.
Starting point is 00:07:52 So I didn't say anything. I went to bed. Grandma came in, went to bed. I kept moving the curtain with my toe and seeing it standing there. You could see its silhouette in the moonlight. I don't understand why. It never moved. It sounds kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:14 But eventually I noticed it was gone. The next day was that was a Thursday night. I even remember the night of the week. It was a Thursday because I went to school the next day, and I was scared to death to go home thinking that thing would be somewhere around there. I went over under the window and looked. We had holly bushes, grandmother had planted up kind of close to the house, but you could see where the grass was pressed down probably a good 24-inch kind of area there
Starting point is 00:08:45 where something had shuffled around that you couldn't see, you know, footprints or that kind of thing. I don't remember that. I just remember seeing the grass mashed down. So that confirmed to me that there was something there. My job was to go to the chicken houses after I got home from school and walk the chickens. And we would do that no matter what the season, but I had to go walk and sounds bad, but you had to pick up the deceased chickens and take them down to the chicken pit, blah, blah, blah. And, well, fast forward.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I'm sorry. I'm a little nervous, so bear with me, Jeremiah. Friday night it didn't come back Saturday night that thing was back at the window I don't remember it staying as long but I remember it being back in the same place and watching the same
Starting point is 00:09:36 I watched it again in the moonlight until I guess I went to sleep it walked away or something then the first part of the next week at school again I was in the chicken house walking the chickens one afternoon, and I felt a shadow passing over me on the west side, and I looked, and there was the black figure walking down the side of the chicken house. All I could see was
Starting point is 00:10:07 probably from what I would call its upper arm's shoulder area down to where the window stopped, which was probably waist or so high. It walked around, walked to the end of the chicken house. we had our doors open on the chicken houses large doors propped back and it stood there where the screen wire was looking in at the chickens it scared me so bad i got in the furnace room and i got down behind the wall that we had built there and i'd look up and back down i'd stand up and back down to see when it left well the chickens had made a little semicircle because when you start on mill it's kind of interesting how to you're chickens do, but they made a little circle out from that opening. And it was just standing there, not making any effort to tear through the wire or do anything.
Starting point is 00:10:59 So finally, it turned, and when it started down the fence row back towards the woods, I ran out and got on my motorcycle and went back to our house, a little mini-bite motorcycle thing, went to the house. Well, that terrified me, and I did not go back and do the other two chicken houses. I was scared to death to go down there. Again, I didn't tell anybody. Then Wednesday or Thursday night of that week, it was back. And my dad also did hay all over the county and neighboring counties.
Starting point is 00:11:36 But at that time of the year, he was combining soybeans. And dad bailed the soybean fields for fodder, I guess, for the cattle. I don't know exactly what he did with all of it, but. they were still hauling some you know the bales of soybean hay so I was left home in the afternoon to do laundry and different things by myself and mom and my brothers
Starting point is 00:12:03 my baby brother would ride with her and my other brother helped because he was even though he was only 11 years old he was big enough to handle hay bales on the truck so they had all left to go haul some of the big
Starting point is 00:12:20 belles in. And I walked over to the front door and there at the neighbor's spillway, the pond was probably a little over a tenth of a mile from our front door. There it stood. And I remember it being really tall, solid black. It wasn't real. People say they're four feet wide, five feet wide, whatever. I don't remember it being that big, I guess, maybe three and a half wide when I thought at the chicken house. down there. It was standing at the spillway, didn't do anything, wasn't, you know, it was just standing there, and then it turned and walked down the backside of it, and it was a really steep dam, and that led down into the woods. And that was all that I saw it as roughly five sightings
Starting point is 00:13:10 of this, I'm assuming, the same creature within a two-week period of time. That has stuck with me my entire her life. And, you know, I tried to not think about it and, you know, push it back in the back of the memories and things. But now that I've gotten older and through the years, I thought, you know, we really had a good setup. They could get deceased chickens out of the pit. They had, I don't know whatever happened to like dead cats and stuff when dad found
Starting point is 00:13:38 them, you know, stillborns. No idea if he buried them or just, I hate to say it, tossed them over the fence or something, but they had that. You know, they had the fish ponds. They had our fruit trees. We had an enormous pear tree down in the center of one of our pastures. We had plum trees all over. We had peaches, apples.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And like I said, we had a huge garden. We had free-range chickens out back. Just lots and lots of stuff that they could survive on. It's been kind of a lifelong fascination, I guess. trying to learn a little bit more about them. But the area that we were in also bordered the back part of our property, the railroad track ran through. And between the railroad tracks and our property, there was also a creek, not a huge one, maybe four feet wide, something like that.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And then, you know, there was a lot of farm land around us. Our neighbor had cattle. They had two huge ponds. The people across the railroad tracks were friends of the family. and they had, we knew they had cattle and they had ponds. So it was really a pretty good area. And we had caves down behind our home. My dad used to take us walking down the tracks.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And he would tell us stories about the caves that Civil War soldiers had hidden things in them or hidden there themselves during the Civil War. But there was one cave in particular that he would tell us not to go in. and he had told several different stories about it. He told us that there was things that were found in there from the war. Then he told us not too far end that there was a drop off that you would drop and get hurt if you didn't know what you were doing. And then he told us later that we just did not need to go in that cave at all. I don't know if Dad knew something.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I know that my great, great, I think grandfather was full-bloody Cherokee. And Dad used to every once in a while say when we'd hear something about, them being around. He said that granddad said that they traveled the Appalachian trails, the Appalachians, that they migrated. And that's about all. And my mom said that she don't remember hearing dad talk about it, but mom didn't like anything that had to do with science, she considered it science fiction, anything out of the norm
Starting point is 00:16:09 she was opposed to hearing about or talking about. Now, around the same time that this happened to me, I remember at dinner one night, Dad telling about, and we heard it on the news, a church somewhere in the North Alabama area that was having a revival, and one had stuck its head in the window during the singing, and they, like the third night of the revival, and they canceled the revival and supposedly went looking for it. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these. messages. Agents who are realtors do more than open doors. They analyze market trends, interest rates, comps. They can tell you about flood zones, mixed use zones, and decode acronyms
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Starting point is 00:18:24 It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recesses. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heightened taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a Rees. So I don't know exactly where that was at, but I think it was, I don't know if you're familiar with Greg House of Woodwalkers, but we live, I don't know, 15, 20 miles apart, but we think it's somewhere between us. He lives over close to the Bankhead Forest, and I kind of live at the edge of the Bankhead Forest. And we think it's kind of in that area. But he's looked for information, I've looked for information, we haven't found that. But we heard that they supposedly the men of the church were looking for it, but no one ever,
Starting point is 00:19:22 we never heard that they found anything. fast forward a little bit later on the teenage years while I was still at home there was not too far from where we lived a huge flea market and we went down there was a couple that was there working on their booth it was a small building built kind of like a chicken house honestly it's a metal building with open doors on the ends big the big swing outdoors and one they were there working while the flea market was closed and they had one that appeared in the doorway, I guess just hearing them make noise, it stuck its head in. And then not far from there, there was an incident where there was one that appeared,
Starting point is 00:20:05 went into a chicken house. But my mom and dad both went down, and my dad wanted to talk to the people about it. And I remember standing there listening from the man and woman telling the story about being scared to death about, you know, that big hairy thing standing in the door. So there's been several cited in the general area that I grew up in. No one else that I know of ever mentioned it. My brothers used to tease me about the one that they saw at the church because I didn't tell anyone about seeing this until I was an adult.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You know, people have a tendency to make fun of you. I even, when I told my brother, he didn't have a problem believing it because when he was a teenager, they'd heard something in the woods down below one of the ponds when they were camping and said that they unloaded all of their weapons into the woods. but my mom didn't believe it. She went so far as to say that she believed I was lying to her about it. And I said, Mom, I'm not. You brought me up not to lie.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I'm not lying. This happened. I was just afraid to say anything back then because I didn't want Daddy going out and hunting it. And then in 2012, we were at church and a gentleman that as the crow flies lives, his property would be due northeast of where I grew up. a mile and a half, and his son was hunting and had an encounter with one. So that kind of, to me, proves that there's still in the area. I mean, I know it's 12 years later, but apparently the caves around there,
Starting point is 00:21:44 the environment is something that they like. So, and I can fast forward to what's been going on around here if you want. Let's discuss about what we've, what you've shared so far. And then we'll get up maybe to, it sounds like you have current day stuff going on as well. A little bit, yes. Okay, okay. So definitely have a few questions. So a lot of people in the community were seeing this, would you guys call them boogers down there or how would you refer to them?
Starting point is 00:22:24 Well, my grandmother, as we were going up, she would tell us not to be out too late at night because the woolly boogers would get us. And, you know, most people call them boogers. I just call them Bigfoot because that's what I, the only thing I knew to identify them as was Bigfoot or Sasquatch, but Bigfoot's what I call them. Now I refer to them as boogers, but my grandmother did use the expression of woolly boogers. I never questioned that as a child. You know, parents and grandparents tell kids all kinds of things to get them to stay around home when they have no business going off anywhere else. but she would say that, you know, don't go out here or there, the woolly booger will get you. So I'm wondering if that just was an expression that they used to describe it.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And she just, now, they were very tight-lipped, my grandmother and her sister. That was just the two in the family. And they just didn't talk much about things that they experienced growing up. They didn't talk much about their family. she just didn't elaborate on a lot of stuff. If you tried to ask her questions about families, she'd say, I've got all the family I need right here in this house. So we just didn't ask her a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:23:46 If Grandma said a woolly-blocker was going to get you, then that's what was going to get you. No matter what that thing was, it was going to get you. We played in the yard summit night. We had daddy put up a light out and a basketball goal out on a big old oak tree that we could go out and shoot hoops as teenagers, as young teenagers, and preteening and play out there, and we had swings. And you know, anything kids wanted to play within the yard,
Starting point is 00:24:15 but we didn't stay out real late. It's kind of like kids today, they don't go outside and play out like we did, but that's all we had. Go out and sit in swings and talk to the neighbors or go fishing and fish till dark or that kind of thing. I don't ever remember seeing anything around the ponds, hearing anything around our ponds, but dad didn't ever talk about them.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Now, my uncle was in my great-uncle. He was a school teacher, and he also did a lot of home construction, and he had a place that he would go and get rocks down on the mountain about two miles below where we lived, and he would get stones to, like, using chimneys and stuff and some good clean sand, and there was a cave there that he would go in and get cool water to drink when he was there working. And his daughter told me a couple years back that it had been several weeks he'd gotten busy with school, and he was always doing continuing education, and he'd gotten very busy with school, and he'd been a couple of months since he'd been down together rocks and sand.
Starting point is 00:25:29 When he went back, he couldn't get into the cave to get the water. something had piled rocks at the entrance and he couldn't get back in there and that was about two miles from where I grew up wow okay so this area is crazy yeah I would say a good two mile radius maybe three I mean maybe a month and a half ago we have a road that we cut through from one road one main road to another one and my husband had pulled in and pulled off to the road to go and do his man thing. And as soon as he stepped out of our vehicle, we heard two whoops. And this is the same area that that cave is in up on the mountain that my uncle, many years ago,
Starting point is 00:26:22 used to go get stones. And my husband turned around. He said, did you hear that? I said, yeah, would you hurry and let's get out of here? I said, it doesn't like you using its property. Let's go. but they're obviously still around at that area. And see, I've moved where I'm at now,
Starting point is 00:26:46 I'm probably five miles, six miles from where I grew up. And I'm in an area with a lot of water and things of that nature, but we'll get there whenever you're ready to get back. Right, right. Absolutely. Was there any community backlash after the situation with the Bigfoot looking into the church revival. Was it a tent or an actual church building? Do you know? It was a church. They said that the windows were up and that it looked in while they were singing. And I suppose the music, the singing, the noise probably attracted it. But there was a woman
Starting point is 00:27:27 and a child turned around and looked and saw it and screamed. And then that's when they disbanded. And they said, I think it was like third nine of the revival, if I remember correctly. And they didn't continue because back then revivals were run a full seven nights and they didn't have any more revival the men went out looking for it and didn't find it. So
Starting point is 00:27:47 Oh man. Someone's got a lot of that story. I think the newspaper even may have carried something. I'm not, I'm not positive, but I know that there was a lot of talk about it. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I know that. Wow. And there's supposedly I'm not sure if it was in the same era, an incident over in Mississippi not too awfully far west of us, the same type of thing happened, but I don't think it had such a good ending.
Starting point is 00:28:24 But, you know, we never heard any more about that area. And as far as the flea market, people were really curious to hear these people talk about it because I would see people we went there every weekend my dad was just an addict
Starting point is 00:28:44 every single weekend we were there on Saturday and Sunday walking it talking to everybody and he knew most of the people there and there was a lot of people that went by to see these people that saw it there
Starting point is 00:28:59 and it was during like within probably two years I'd say of when I saw the one on our property I'm always saying, why didn't I see it asking? Why didn't I see it again? Why didn't it come back? Why did it come just to that window?
Starting point is 00:29:18 I was, I would have said preteen, but I just turned 13. I, some people have theories about them being attracted to women during certain times of the month. We're all adults here, so I would say that I had just started puberty. not too long before that. So maybe that had something to do with it. I don't know. There's just so many questions I have personally. Absolutely, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I mean, I can tell you that I agree with you on both of those. There's been things said to me off-air, off-record that make me believe that as well. 100% there's something to that where it's like, you know, time of the month slash puberty plays, can play a huge part in it. When you had the, you know, it was so close to your window
Starting point is 00:30:22 and it was like, you're saying six feet away, that's really, really close. Do you remember? Six inches. No, six inches. Sorry. Yeah, that's way different. Six inches.
Starting point is 00:30:33 There was a glass of pain in the spring between me and it. So, six inches. Do you remember smelling anything, like a smeller or anything? No, wow. No, I'm glad you asked that.
Starting point is 00:30:46 So many people asked me that, and no, I don't remember any odors. I think I'd remember it because since then, I have smelled one, but I'm sure I would remember that gut-wrenching odor. But no, there was no smell. I remember its face being like leathery looking.
Starting point is 00:31:05 you know, a lot of wrinkles. I can't remember seeing hair above the eyebrows. I really, because it was dark, I don't remember seeing, I do remember seeing eyebrows. I don't remember it being like a protruding eye, you know, like they show the apes protruding out.
Starting point is 00:31:25 What do they call that? The pronounced brow. I don't remember that. It may have been the angle that we were, I mean, being face to face. I don't know. I remember some hair on the, the cheeks.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I do remember, and I'm sorry I forgot to mention later on, and it had to be in after I turned 14, because I got after Spencer Jameson questioned me a lot, I remembered seeing another one. And
Starting point is 00:31:57 probably this same one, I'm guessing. And the reason I had to be after I turned 14, my dad bought me a Honda 70. And I was writing it. to the pond and around the chicken houses and stuff, you know, to do chores and things. And as I was coming back from my lower chicken house, we had a large barn, like the house I grew up in, and then we had an open area out back, a huge, huge blackberry.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I used to call it the blackberry mound. It was probably 16 feet long and 12 feet wide. My grandmother had, for lack of a better way of putting it, she kind of tamed while. blackberries into this huge mound of blackberries. We had that there, and then we had her chicken pins, rabbit pins. She also had dogs out there in pens. And then the barn started. And we had, dad had built an area to bottle feed calves on one end of it.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Then we had the open bays for the tractors and the equipment, the hay bowlers and stuff was stored directly behind that was probably five stalls for cows. And we had one that was set aside as a makeshift chicken coop. And then we had a cattle catch pen at the end where when we rounded them up and tagged new calves and things, we had, he built an area there that was large enough to pretty much accommodate the whole herd. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Agents who are realtors do more than open doors.
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Starting point is 00:35:29 Everything happens for a recess. And then we had the cat. patch pin and then another smaller pin that he could isolate other cows in. And we had Cataba worm trees. I don't know if you're familiar where those are not. You know, the trees that have those caterpillar-like worms on them you fish with. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we had two of those huge ones out there.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I mean, huge ones. And then we had another little open-air lean-to type thing on the barn that my grandmother raised, night crawlers in, had eight. eight to 12 inch high beds on them. Initially, she did her starts for the garden there, and then she converted it to night crawlers. Well, as I was coming back from the third chicken house, I remember seeing it standing in that area,
Starting point is 00:36:29 the edge of it was about six feet, on the very edge of it was about six feet high, maybe five and a half, and then it sloped up to attach to the barn, probably nine feet at the inner piece of the tent. that attached to the barn. And it was hunched over, like its head was over. It couldn't stand up straight.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And I just remember as I rode by seeing it and thinking, I've got to get to the house. I didn't pay a lot of attention to it. There was no light there. It was black. Like I said, it could have been the same one. But that had to have been close to a year later because I had the motorcycle been. That was a gift that gave me for my birthday, the larger bike. Now another thing, and I don't think I mentioned it, was my grandmother also had old-style refrigerator freezers.
Starting point is 00:37:24 You know, they campaign take the doors off yada, yada, yada, yada for years because kids could get in them and they could, okay. She had them lined up around the backside of my dad's shop. There was probably 10, maybe a foot in a half between each one, which had them up on cement blocks. and she had drainage holes in them, and she had them full of either red wigglers or, I guess not, crawlers in them. And then in the evening's grandmother would sprinkle the top of them
Starting point is 00:37:52 with chicken feed, and she would also take scraps from the kitchen of eggshells, different things like that, and sprinkle across the top of them for the worms to feed on. Well, in the evening, right before dark, she would go down and put a cement block on the corner, a big heavy cement block. It wasn't like the, I don't know, what are they, six inches wide.
Starting point is 00:38:16 It was the larger ones. I remember it being the, there may be 12 by 12, I think. She would put those things up there on the corner and then she would lower the lid. And that was to keep, if it rained during the night, it would keep them from flooding out. Well, we went through a spell where she would go down in the mornings and the cement block would be on the ground and the lid would be closed. and she was upset about it because she didn't want the worms, it closed down on the worms for fear of, I guess, I don't know what kind of problems it could have caused
Starting point is 00:38:51 if they came to the top, maybe that overheated or something and she didn't get down there early enough. But she couldn't understand what was taking her blocks and setting them on the ground or knocking them on the ground. It crossed my mind not too long ago, maybe because it was around the same time frame, that thing was coming up and getting the kitchen scraps or eating that chicken feed because sometimes it was whole kernel corn that dry, you know, shell corn that she would throw in there.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And we also had a corn crib not too far from there that she threw in there for the worms. Just a thought. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's multiple accounts I can think of right now where something similar to that, like some sort of refrigerator or, freezer on a back porch was involved and that just draws them in like there's the you know the account in oklahoma about 20 years ago and there's also um i believe one in uh outside of mount reneer that i just heard from individual named tom powell but um yeah no i i would say i mean
Starting point is 00:40:05 the whole farm area the way you guys had set up it's just like a magnet so much much food, incredible amount of food. Oh, yeah. Smorgasbord for the Sasquot. It's so easy to get it, too. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, the dead chickens, the cows, and I know when the pig operation got going, Dad would, he had a thing that he incinerated the men, but he didn't light it every day. He would throw them out there. And then, you know, into it, it was the open air type thing, and then he would, I guess they had propane burners on the bottom, I don't know, but then he would light it up
Starting point is 00:40:48 and then burn all the carcasses. But he would wait until he got several, you know, to set it. So there was there right, and that was not, golly, it was really close to the woods. Our property actually went across
Starting point is 00:41:07 the railroad tracks some, but we didn't fool with the property on that side. It was just a small corner that was over there. But around the edge of it, you know, Dad left wooded areas. We had a good deal of woods on the property. So, but the hog operation, he had set way back out away from the house so we didn't have that annoying, horrible smell. And it was very, very close.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Probably the back of it was 45 feet from the wood line. So in the end that the incinerator was on, was even closer to that. The incinerator was even closer to the woods than the building itself. So, yeah, looking back now, I can see where, you know, they can have fish one night, pigs one night, chicken one night, you know, being facetious and silly about it, but they just had all kinds of things they could eat. Oh, yeah, I mean, they would never have to go hunting for deer.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Yeah. I mean, there'd be no reason to unless they wanted to get deer. Plenty of fruit and vegetables. Oh, yeah, definitely. Did, would you guys ever have anything show up on your property that didn't make sense, like parts of deer or weird objects that were just out of place? You know, Dad never mentioned that, and I don't remember anything like that as a child. And I mentioned before, I remember I remember riding with dad in the truck and a spawning stillborn calves. Sometimes a cow would have twins and one wouldn't make it.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I honestly can't tell you what dad did with those. I don't know if, you know, if those were there, if they were devoured. We had deer, but they didn't come up around the house a lot. You could see them in the back parts of the close to the wood line on the property. but we just didn't see a lot of deer inside the fences. So, and dad wasn't a hunter. You know, he just, he didn't. He would take the boys usually in the fall squirrel hunting or rabbit hunting or something just to say he carried them hunting, but he didn't hunt for deer.
Starting point is 00:43:21 We had too many cows and pigs and, you know, things of that nature around to keep the freezers stopped. So he just didn't, he was just never a hunter. and I don't ever remember him saying that something had gotten broken into or or anything like that but all of our fields basically all ran back to the woods you know like when we had corn there was ample fresh corn that they could have gotten into and I don't know if they had any interest in soybeans but the same with the soybean fields they went back to the woods occasionally he would drain a pond and we had he had one pond that was a, I guess you'd say a nursery.
Starting point is 00:44:08 He had these huge baskets that he'd built that with aerators in them that. Now, he did have one of those pulls from the water one time, pulled out to the edge. But he, that statement was that he figured somebody had came across the fence and was trying to steal the pound, pound and a half catfish out of it. Because they were about ready to be dumped into the larger pond. So, you know, thinking back, I don't know, never did I hear them mention anything about footprints, anything of that nature of growing up. I just don't remember anything like that. And honestly, if dad noticed it, I don't think, Jeremiah, he would have said anything in front of my mother because she was just so, I mean, we weren't even allowed. This sounds silly, maybe, to some people, but I was always a trekkie thanks to my cousin, but we were.
Starting point is 00:45:01 We're not allowed to even watch Star Trek in our household because that was so out there. You know, that was just we just couldn't do it. So dad just knew what he could and couldn't talk about around mom. Now, he might have talked about it to neighbors and things like that, but not at home with us. No, I can definitely get those dynamics, yeah. Yeah. You know, if it, if mom didn't feel like it was biblical, you didn't talk about it. That's a good way to put it.
Starting point is 00:45:36 You know, the Bible didn't talk about Captain Kirk and she wasn't going to talk about Captain Kirk. Well, true. Yeah, the Bible does not talk about Captain Kirk. But on the other hand, the Bible does talk about a lot of really weird stuff, which I've always, you know, found interesting. Yes, it does. If you read it with an open mind, and especially as an adult, you're like, whoa, there's some really, really interesting things. There you go, yeah. Genesis chapter six mentions that it says that giants roamed the earth in those days.
Starting point is 00:46:13 You know, so who's to say that, I mean, we all know the story of the flood. We all know that Noah and his sons repopulated the earth. we don't know the genes that they carried we have no idea we don't know what could have you know i threw this at my uncle not too long ago i said we don't know what what bowels of the earth where someone could have hidden we don't know only god knows we don't know so and and the not we don't know if it's end days or not but end days will be like the days of noah and it makes you think why it says that, right? We don't know everything he created.
Starting point is 00:46:56 We just don't. And there's so many things that are mentioned that I'm not a scholar. I'm a Christian. I don't fully understand everything that I read. I admit that. I try to ask him for clarification and for wisdom to understand, but then I can read the same verse a half a dozen times and get a different meaning out of it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:18 So, you know, I, I take his word, giant. And we've heard all kinds of stories over the years, and history is filled with them about the giants. And I've read things around here about people having, not too far from where I live now, having seen large, hairy man beast, kill dogs, carry dog head off, cross a road in front of somebody.
Starting point is 00:47:47 You know, so you see it all the time. Why doubt that it exists? Absolutely. I know what I thought. You can't tell me otherwise. I know what I thought. That once you see it, it's going to stick with you for life. I agree.
Starting point is 00:48:02 It's one of those things where people start seeing certain things, and then you have to agree. Then everyone has to agree that the Bible is true if you start seeing certain things, right? And I think that might be a reason why some of this gets shut down. down, you know, out of the news. But that's a whole discussion in itself. So let's move on. I think now might be a good time to move on to, you've had some things continue to happen in your life as you get older.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yes. I moved away from here for and lived in a couple different, I lived in South Alabama for roughly 23 years or so. and then I lived out west for about a year. And we came back and searched all over the county that I grew up in and finally found a place and bought a home that had been vacant for roughly three years. And that was in 2004 is when we moved in here. And the only person that had been on the property that we had been on the property that we,
Starting point is 00:49:20 were aware of. In that period of time was a landscaper who kept the yard cut and kept the flower beds in some order as the they were trying to sell the property. And my son and I, and I mentioned before, my son is autistic. We were, he was really trying to decide on what bedroom he wanted. There's three bedrooms in the home. And on that side of the house, the south end, there's two that are basically identical. And he didn't know if he wanted to be on the east side of the house or the west side of the house. He was nine, going on 10 years old. And we were sitting in the bedroom on the west side.
Starting point is 00:50:06 He finally decided. And we were working on it and setting all of his stuff up. And it was in the spring of 2005. And we were sitting there talking and organizing things. And suddenly we heard this thump, thump, thump, just loud. thunderous footsteps and it shook the side of the house. And I immediately thought, no. You know, and I had watched programs and was familiar with, you know, like I said,
Starting point is 00:50:39 I've been fascinated most of my adult life with finding out what I could about the Sasquatch, the Bigfoot. And I thought, no, uh-uh. That's the only thing I could think of that could be that heavy that would make something shake. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Agents who are realtors do more than open doors. They analyze market trends, interest rates, comps.
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Starting point is 00:52:34 Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a recess. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Everything happens for a recess. You could tell it was bipedal. because of the way it was the footsteps. Our neighbor had Clydesdales in a pastor a little ways from there. And I knew it wasn't them because, you know, horse steps sounds way different than something by pill. And it frightened him and he said, well, should I move to the other bedroom? me, you know, because he didn't understand that as it passed the house, it was going to shake the wall in that room, too. Well, I went and looked.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I didn't see anything. I'd stay with him a little bit, but I'm sure by the time I got to the front door that it was already in the woods on the other side. And, but that occurred. I didn't hear anything else after that. Now, I'm not going to say everything is the Sasquots, Bigfoot, whatever you want to call him. but that was something large that made my house shake, and it was bipedal. So you can let your mind go where you want your mind to go. Then later on in the summer that year, my husband, we had a, we have a shop,
Starting point is 00:54:15 and he had it opened up on both ends. It was hot, and he was working, and he heard a whoop. He knew what he was hearing because he'd heard him on TV by that point. And he came in the house, wide-eyed, and he said, did you hear that? And I was preparing dinner, and I said, no, I didn't hear anything. I was at the kitchen window. And he said, you did not hear that. And I said, no, I didn't hear anything.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And then he described what he heard. And I was like, that's interesting. Now, where we live now, behind our home is wooded. There is a creek. Geographically, there is a number of smaller creeks that this creek, I mean, really, small, I guess you say streams that feed into this creek and then it feeds into
Starting point is 00:55:12 a larger one down toward the main highway south of us. And then west of us you get into several miles west of us, you get into Bankhead National Forest. But all of this I don't know
Starting point is 00:55:29 if you can hear that noise but I have somebody that just don't seem to know how to leave me alone at the moment. Oh, you're great. Anyway, we have looked at the topographic area, a lot of woods, chicken houses around, not real close to the house, but within a couple of miles. But we just have a lot, a lot of watershed, you know, the creeks and streams and stuff around here. Directly down behind my home, it's the deepest part of this one particular creek. we've had a neighbor or an old neighbor that used to fish there. He would tell us that he would go down and he would catch a brim,
Starting point is 00:56:22 and I don't know what other little fish, but he would just go down and fish just to be fishing, said he didn't eat them, but we do know that there's fish down there. So if there's anything that's down there, they have a source of fish and probably crayfish because, you know, there's crayfish all in the little streams and stuff around here. The 2004 whoop, yeah, five whoop.
Starting point is 00:56:48 And then we didn't really hear anything else. But now I have apple trees, two large ones that were on the property, then we moved here, and I planted pig trees that now bear. I have five peach trees, and I have five more apple trees. I have figs. I have blueberries. My yard is just full of fruits. I also garden.
Starting point is 00:57:08 So I have ample food on site. And then we have chickens here that we, you know, we get eggs from. We've had several incidents over the years that you go, hmm, big foot, not Bigfoot. You know, I actually wrote a bunch of stuff down because of, I think I just told you that my, I was having some memory issues, but thankfully that's getting, better. I was trying to see when the next one, after 2005, because I found it kind of interesting to look and kind of go back over them to see just what all had occurred. We had foster children for a little while for about three years. And the little girl used to say, Papa was looking in the window. And it would be late at night. You could hear her like 11 o'clock, 1130.
Starting point is 00:58:22 tell and I didn't know I could never catch anybody looking in her window so I taught her to say go away Papa go away and so I can hear her at 11, 1130
Starting point is 00:58:33 say go away popa'll go away when I'd hear her I would get up and go look but by the time I got to that side and got to her room where she was at they wouldn't be anybody out there
Starting point is 00:58:44 I've often wondered if that was one looking in the window at her you know I wondered if it could have been somebody, we have a campground not too far from us, that, you know, they might have walked, because we've had people that just stroll into our yard that go walking and don't know where they're at. I wonder if maybe there was somebody from over there that could have come over and been looking in, but as I said earlier, not everything is Bigfoot.
Starting point is 00:59:11 But I've wondered if that could have been, because as a child and in the dark, if all she could see was the hairy face, she might have equated that with being a pop-off. She was 2 and a half three years old, very verbal, often wondered if she could have. Also during that time, my husband was outside working in a shop on some electronics, and I went out to get him to come in for dinner, and as I went out, he was coming out saying, did you hear the whoop? And I said, no, I did not. I'm sorry, once again, I missed hearing a whoop.
Starting point is 00:59:48 but he declared that he was hearing whoops come out of the woods. Then a few years ago, the man that on the campground decided he was going to fence some of the property that he owned that he hadn't been fenced. And my son and I had been picking wild blackberries ever since we lived here all around the property and down around the edge of this gentleman's property, he said he didn't care. So we were picking them. And on the wood line, there was a lot of.
Starting point is 01:00:18 really large blackberries there that we look forward to getting to pick every year. And he bulldozed all of that down into the woods. We went down and looked just to see how far he cleared back. We turned our golf cart and rode over there and just checking it out. Well, we went back the next afternoon to look again. I think my husband didn't go the first time, so he wanted to go the second time. when we went the second time there was an actual upside down
Starting point is 01:00:51 tree shoved down in the ground between on the edge of the pile closest to our house. It looked like a cedar tree that all of the limbs had been just somebody taking their hand and just raked down the tree and broke
Starting point is 01:01:07 all the limbs off of it and then the root ball up in the air probably about eight feet tall. It wasn't enormous but it was about eight feet tall and probably 10 inches around something like that. I'd heard about
Starting point is 01:01:26 upside down trees. Never seen one, but I saw that one. And you know how you don't think about taking pictures of stuff? I'm sorry. I didn't.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I didn't take one. But to me, that was fascinating. Then we had a dog, a puppy, we got in. She's 14 years old. So that would have been
Starting point is 01:01:48 2011. She got out. and went down in the woods. The woods were about 30 feet from my house at that time, our back door, 30, 35. And she, we have copperheads or had copperheads then. And I didn't want her to get out down in there and get copperhead bitten. So we were trying to call her back. And there's two trees back there that the way they're positioned together,
Starting point is 01:02:17 they're pretty wide, probably about three and a half, four feet as you're looking at them. Well, my son went on one side of the house, one end of the house, and I went on the other calling the dog, trying to get her to come out of the woods. And I looked, and I know what an owl's eyes look like. I know what other animals' owls look like. There was a set of eyes, large eyes, sideways, looking out from behind a tree, one of those trees that were right there together. It was dark.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I'm pretty blind at night. But that set of eyes was kind of that orangeish, amber, reddish color. And they were not, you know, owl's eyes are really round. This was not the really round eyes. More of the little almond kind of almond shape to it. I guess a good comparison to the size is, you know, like bicycle reflectors or reflections you put on a mailbox. close to that size. And they were probably five inches, four to five inches apart.
Starting point is 01:03:26 They were wide apart. I'm guessing. I'm not real good with that, but I'm guessing. Well, I looked at it and I said, look, I'm not going to bother you. We just need the puppy. Please leave the puppy alone. I call my son from the other side of it to go around the house, come over here and stand by me.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Let's get the dog in and get in the house. But I really do believe that that was one. looking out from behind a tree. We used to shop late at night because I've stated on another program. The hooligans are not at Walmart running around at 11 o'clock at night, okay? I don't have to worry about dodging people, the kids and stuff that are not minding their parents. We would come in and occasionally we would see something peeking out from behind a tree over on the northwest side of our yard. and I just tell my son let's get in the house.
Starting point is 01:04:22 He said, Mama, do you see that? Do you see those eyes? Because he became aware of it. We also would sit up late at night and watch TV during this same time period. He and I like science fiction. We like thrillers, things like that. Dad, he's more of a hallmark man. But we would sit in our den, which is a way it's from, you know, him and where he's at in the house.
Starting point is 01:04:47 We would sit in here and have popcorn and watch the movies. And things would brush up against the house or slap the house, the backside. That part of the house did not have lights on it. The front yard, I jokingly say you can read and use paper in. The backside is dark. Not now, but then it was very dark. But you could hear, I mean, it would slap the house. You could tell it was something hitting it.
Starting point is 01:05:16 he'd say, Mama, what's that? And I would just, I would say, oh, a deer probably just ran into the house. You tell your kids things to keep from scared them out of their wits. I mean, I never saw it, but it went on. That was, and it's kind of seasonal. It's spring and fall more than anything. And we would hear it just about every night that we were in here. And we would be in here a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:46 He was homeschooled, so we'd set our own hours. So, you know, we would be up late. We'd start our schoolwork at 9. So, like I said, we had our own little schedule that we did. And we would hear it quite often. Was it one? Was it not one? I kind of tend to believe that maybe it was.
Starting point is 01:06:10 We did have a lot of deer that came on the property back then. We had chickens removed from our chicken coop. early one morning we went out to gather eggs like 6.30 and he said, Mama, I got chickens missing. We started looking for the chickens. And we had maintained a portion of our neighbor's property before he fenced it. He pushed all that stuff back, by the way, I talked about it earlier. He didn't get to fence it until like 2019 or something when he finally did that.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So it was quite a few years between preparing it to be fenced and when he actually did it. but we found the grass was probably or Johnson grass I guess it was seated probably three feet three and a half feet tall out in that corner it was in the fall and we found where something with large feet had stepped large strides down a row an old fence row the fence was there old barbed wire and there was hundiceuckles all growing on it vines and it went down the edge of that towards the woods and then there laid the chickens. They were just laying in the grass like they had just been dropped there, not moving, and the footprints went on past them where the grass had been parted and you could follow the steps all the way to the woods. Were their necks broken or anything out of the ordinary? No, they were perfectly fine.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Oh. We picked them up and brought them back to the coop. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Agents who are realtores do more than open doors. They analyze market trends, interest rates, comps. They can tell you about flood zones, mixed use zones, and decode acronyms like HOA, APR, MLS. They connect you to lawyers, contractors, even Phil, the Sewer Scope guy. They negotiate, coordinate, advocate for you, close the deal with you, and hand the keys to you.
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Starting point is 01:09:42 Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music? Or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a recesses. A friend of them on said, I have never heard of them not killing the chickens. I said, those chickens thing dazed, they were just sitting there in that tall grass.
Starting point is 01:10:11 But the footsteps, I would gander, I would guess, were probably four feet apart, four to four and a half. And it was large steps. Well, I mean, this was sporadic activity over, you know, those years. we moved away well we own the property but my brother unexpectedly passed away in 2017 and
Starting point is 01:10:41 my younger brother had passed away 10 years prior to that and my mother had suffered a heart attack when the youngest one died and then she was not feeling well when my other brother passed away and she was nervous about
Starting point is 01:11:00 living alone. So we decided that we would go over and spend some nights with her, my son and I, so she wasn't always by herself. Well, then she went to a cardiologist, and he told me she needed open heart surgery in August of that year. So at that point, we made the decision to just basically shut down the house and move over there to stay with her when she got home, take care of her. And I had turkeys and I had chickens here. And we left them here and we would come back and gather our eggs and check on them and feed them and, you know, take care of them daily.
Starting point is 01:11:40 And while mom was in the hospital and we did come back over and stay some while she was in the hospital and while we didn't want to leave either place totally unoccupied. So, good reason, because the first night we spent it in my mother, without her there, we were broke into while we were there in bed. I met the person at the front doors.
Starting point is 01:12:07 He broke through the lock. And anyway, prior to my brother dying, he told us about seeing something on all fours come out of a beam patch and run back down it. So there could have been activity over there as well. And her place is three or four miles from where we live. So we kept coming back over here to check on our turkeys and our chickens. And we would come back and our chickens would be out.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Something was letting our chickens out. And we had 14 chickens and we were averaging 10 to 13 eggs a day. And we were not getting any eggs. They were not molting. It was like we went from getting our eggs to no eggs. our neighbor had a camera system and she said nobody's coming down the driveway. You don't have anybody going down the driveway, but you guys to check on your place and the mail carrier. And they didn't come into the yard.
Starting point is 01:13:11 So something was getting all of our eggs and something was letting our chickens out. And then they started letting our turkeys out. This happened several times. We'd round them all back up, put them up. And they had those little slide latches, you know, like the little, I grew up. I grew up calling them a hasp. You would just slide it and you had to push it to a lot position. Well, my son was bad to just, and he still is,
Starting point is 01:13:35 to just slide it and not push it to the lot position. So you could just slide it and the door would swing open. And that's what we had. So after we dealt with rounding up chickens and turkeys for about three weeks, we moved them over to where my mom lived. And then we wound up having to get rid of them because they worried her constantly. but I wondered if it was coming up from the woods and helping itself to eggs. We did go from 14 chickens down, I think, to 11 before we moved them.
Starting point is 01:14:10 So we wound up with less chickens to move. We did lose one hen turkey out of all that, but we don't know if that was just from, you know, her getting far enough away, we couldn't find her. So we had that occurred. But when we came back home in 2019, we fenced the entire property. Now, I have a dough that brought her little fawns in the yard every year, and we still saw deer come on the property some because we don't close our big gates. We just let, we have two gates and we leave them open.
Starting point is 01:14:50 But the fence around the property is probably five and a half, six feet high with barbed wire on top. and it goes down almost, I think our fence stops 20 feet from the creek in the back. The back fence. Well, in 20, I think it was the spring of 2019, is when I got the footprints. I have a 17-inch by 6-inch footprint. My blueberries were stripped, and it had been raining, and I got a trackway. a left footprint, a right footprint, and half of a left footprint again. The best footprint I got a picture of it was the right footprint.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Before I could get to the house and get my cell phone to take a picture, my husband ran through it with his truck. And the treads on the truck are one inch, but it didn't, you know, it damaged the footprint a little bit, but you could still see the depression. It depressed the soil deeper than the truck did. Really? So I know that we, yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow.
Starting point is 01:16:00 So I've kept that. I carry it on my phone all the time. But yeah, I've got it. When I first found it, I was cutting grass when I found it. And I was like, oh, my gosh, such a clear footprint. And I, like, broke my neck. And he had just said, I'm going to get diesel fuel. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:16:18 And I didn't think about him going around that part of the yard to go out the other gate. And he did. He circled the yard and went across it. So I have truck tread in the Bigfoot's print. But, yeah, I have a really nice 17-inch by, like I said, the hill was about six inches across. Toes were clearly defined. The big toes, you could see where the soil was kind of a clay, sandy loam area. And when it mashed its toes down, you kind of pushed a little chunk of the dirt up around the edge of the footprint.
Starting point is 01:16:52 It's cool. I didn't cast it. Didn't think about it, but I did get it on the phone. And then in the spring of the next, I believe it was the next, no, 2020, my son got another footprint. It was a wet footprint that he took going into my shop. He looked out the door and said, somebody's trying to get in your shop. And he opened the door and said, hey, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:17:17 And it was, he thought it was a person dressed in all black. It was raining. And it ran between two buildings. But then he went out to see if the door was. indeed locked. And he came back in and got his phone. He said, Mama, there's that footprint out there that's weird. And it was 11 inches long.
Starting point is 01:17:35 The big toe stuck out further than the other four toes. And it was five inches across at the hill. When you're finding these prints, are you finding multiples of them as well? Not on that one, which I didn't go out there. So he didn't know to look around the base of the steps. That one print was just up on the concrete steps. And it ran, like I said, between the two buildings that are there. The other one I found multiples.
Starting point is 01:18:09 I found the three. And they were just in that clay, sandy, that was still moist enough for it to compress there. And it was directly out at an angle from my blueberry bushes. Now, I tied nets the next year, I believe it was. over my blueberry bushes, bird netting. And we tied them down around the base to make sure nothing got the blueberries. We would tie them in the after we gathered the blueberries off of them.
Starting point is 01:18:44 The next day, the nets would be loose, throwing on the ground. Now, raccoon's not untieing those and throwing them on the ground. The blueberry bushes are about four and a half feet tall, four to four and a half feet tall. and they're large bushes and they're loaded. So something with fingers had to be untying those and throwing them off. Yeah, absolutely. How far apart again were you said there are multiple footprints? Were they pretty far apart?
Starting point is 01:19:17 Oh, yeah, they were. They were. I couldn't have stepped that far, and I'm 5-11, and my husband couldn't have. I'm going to say, It's been a while back and I hadn't thought about measuring. I didn't think about measuring them. Probably three and a half, four feet, every bit of that much, if not further than four.
Starting point is 01:19:42 And they were really far apart. Now, the one that was a half of one, it was the toes in about halfway back on the foot. I think the hill had hit a rock, like stand stone, stand stone that's out there is why it didn't make an impression on that one. And then he had stepped on, it was headed towards the eastern gate on our property. And it's just woods right outside, probably 25 feet outside that is a pine thicket that that it could have gone into. And if you were to draw a line connecting those footprints, what would the line look like?
Starting point is 01:20:26 Almost straight, but not exactly straight. Wow. Wild. I mean, they were just a little bit offset, but it's not like ours. Yep. When one hit the side of your house, were you able to check if there was a handprint on the side of the house at all?
Starting point is 01:20:54 We never found anything out there. Now, I had a handprint on my car. Okay. on the side of my car and the glass, I drove a flex. And the way I described it is it looked like it had been on top of the car and reached down its hand. It would have been its right hand onto the back window, the backside window of the car. The heel of the hand hit, and then it hit about three inches down from the corner, and the glass was cracked. there. Then the fingers, the thumb ran parallel with the edge of the glass, and the fingers were
Starting point is 01:21:40 down further on the glass. And I've had a lot of mobility issues, and my son went out and tried to take the picture, and bless his heart, he put his hand in such a manner that, and I've got a picture of the hill, kind of the hill of the hand and the thumb. But that car went through the car wash and that greasy handprint stayed, but it was obvious what it was. It was a huge. handprint. My hand is large. It was larger than my husband's. He's 6'4 and he has very large hands. And it was larger than his. I was just shocked. I thought it had gotten on the car, but then the more we looked, a friend Greg House said that he thought that maybe it had reached over the car versus beyond it. And I said, well, that's kind of strange, but that's the only way I
Starting point is 01:22:31 knew to describe it was it you know like maybe had been on it but there was no marks on the other side there was just that one handprint that was around 2020 it's because i got that car in 2019 so i think that was around 2020 when we found that and i had to take uh fantastic and rub it off to get it off okay wow so it was greasy but you could see You know, like all the ridges in our hands, the, you could see all that, especially in that heel print, the dermal ridges in it. Oh, absolutely. And just the fact that it was really hard to clean it off, I mean, that is a big thing that you hear as well. It's always hard to clean those prints off.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And I had always said that I wanted to see another one. And I didn't get to see it as close, but I have seen another one since. We normally, as I told you, we, I don't mean to be hesitant when I'm speaking, but I'm trying to think how to word everything and make it make sense. I told you we had all the fruit trees and things. We watch our trees to get ready to go out and gather all of them. our fruit so I can preserve it. And we had a tree this previous year that I had told it. I talked to my trees. I said, if you do not produce fruit this next season, I'm cutting you down.
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Starting point is 01:25:49 Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed Sponsored jobs. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a reason. Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away for music? Or 15 seconds to eat or Reese's? Perhaps it's true.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Everything happens for a Reese's. Well, last year that thing was loaded. I mean loaded. So I had gone by when it started, they started turning the peaches and kept checking it, checking it. And I told my husband, I said, I think it's Saturday we're going to gather all the peaches and that way I can put them up. Well, went out there on Friday, picked one.
Starting point is 01:26:41 And I said, yeah, we're going to get them tomorrow. Went out Saturday to gather our peaches. There wasn't a peach on the tree. It was stripped clean. Okay, I have squirrels. I know what they do to my pecan trees. Squirrels don't strip a tree overnight. I don't have neighbors that come into the yard, open the gates and come in and do things like that.
Starting point is 01:27:03 The tallest part of the trees, maybe 12 feet. But it cleaned the tree. That's not the first time that we've had our. apples and peach trees cleaned and our blueberry bushes. This has been happening since we've been back and they were mature enough to produce well. We just don't, I mean, we're feeding whatever wildlife it is that's stripping them. Wow, 12 feet is really high up. Yeah. Yeah, I find that interesting that they just disappear overnight. So they don't mess with the figs though. That's what I told someone else not long ago. I said, you know, I can get a harvest of
Starting point is 01:27:44 figs. They just don't seem to mess with the figs. But everything else, they strip. I have two apple trees. They don't produce great because they're older, but they do produce fruit. We never get the fruit off them. We'll get a couple. You know, my son will get a couple as he goes by. They'll be stripped whenever they look like they're about ready. But the peaches is the big thing. I think I've gotten a peach harvest twice since my trees have been old enough for me to get peaches. from on myself. They get stripped all, like all in one night. They're gone.
Starting point is 01:28:24 So tell me what's doing that. I mean, as you said yourself, not everything's bigfoot, but sometimes you hear things where it's like, okay, then what is it? You know, what else is stripping a tree up to 12 feet tall? That's nuts. I don't know. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:45 But now the interesting thing, and I said I'd always wanted to really see one again. In November, oh, and we have Napops. Are you familiar with May pops? No, I've heard of it. I just can't picture what it is. Okay, they look kind of like a Kiwi, only they're lighter color, and I can't think of the flower.
Starting point is 01:29:08 I've gone blank on the flower. It's the fruit of a flowering vine. Well, we have elderberries as well. have elderberries that I planted to be tamed for me to harvest, and then I have elderberries growing in other places on the property along with wild blueberries. I mean, not blueberries, blackberries. In the back, we had made a burn pile, and it's overgrown on the ends around it. It's large. And there's some large elderberry bushes that I'd say they became trees. We had been watching, and there was a may pop vine, passion, passion flower, passion, I don't, I'm not sure. Anyway. It was loaded. There was probably about 50 of the May pops or so on it. And my son kept saying, what do they taste like? And I said, well, when they get ripe enough, I'll let you taste one.
Starting point is 01:29:57 We'll gather them and you can taste them. Because I said, people eat the fruit when they're ripe. We came in in November before Thanksgiving. We'd been shopping. And we were later coming home than normal for us. We'd usually try to get here before my husband gets home. And we pulled up, and our property slopes in the back. It used to be a field, and they had terraced rows or pasture.
Starting point is 01:30:22 And so you can imagine how the terraces drop off. And so that's probably two to three terraces down back there where that's at. And I looked, and I said, look, Jeffrey, we have a friend at the May pops. You can see head and shoulders black facing away from us. I said, quietly go in the house. Don't say anything. Just go in the house. And I said, don't let the dogs out.
Starting point is 01:30:49 just go in. It was down there eating the may pops. When we watched, he'd go back to our back window and look. I said, once it's gone from the may pops, you can let the dogs out. But don't let them out until, you know, it's away from there. It probably stayed down there about 15 minutes. We went down then on Saturday. A friend of mine came over.
Starting point is 01:31:11 She wanted some seeds because she wanted to plant something. We went down just to get the, see if there was any left for her to take home and dry and plant. there was maybe, there was two rocklands on the ground, one further over in the pile, like toward the burn pile, that it hadn't gotten, and then a couple, maybe five total left on that whole vine. And like I said, they'd been about 50 hanging there. It cleaned those things up. I figured that was the closest I would, or the best I would see one again. That was it.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Now, our dogs kept running the edge of the woods. they wouldn't go in the woods. And I have a little doxswain, and he loves to chase rabbits. He'll go anywhere. He didn't care. He stopped going into the woods around that time. He would just run the edge and bark. Run the edge and bark.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Well, I think it was December. No, January. We have since, I told you before, the bat was dark. We put up a ring camera system all around the house and added lights at the back door. and the end towards the old chicken coop. And my mother-in-law has moved up here and living in a camper out at one end of our house. And so we've tried to light things and, you know, make it more secure and friendly for her to be.
Starting point is 01:32:36 If something happened, she needed to come in, she'd be able to say to come in at night. And vice versa for us to go out there. So really, the only place that was dark was the north end of my home. Well, I was sitting here and the cameras kept going off, and I heard a noise. It sounded like a tree knock, like you hear on TV, the tree knocks. And I thought, huh. So I started with the front camera and started working my way around. And when I got to the Northwest camera system, I turned it on, and I was watching it on my phone, and I enlarged the screen.
Starting point is 01:33:15 and there stepped out from behind two trees and some privet hedge and just, you know, smaller trees underbrush and stuff, one stepped out. I lost it. I was like, oh, my word. Well, all I could think was screenshot, screenshot, and I kept trying to screenshot it, and I couldn't get my screenshot to work because I would have gotten a perfect side silhouette of this beast standing there. I took off to the bedroom, what my husband up, I said, you've got to look at this.
Starting point is 01:33:48 So I showed it to him. My son came running in there, and he got to see it. And they were seeing it as it was turning and walking back into the woods. And I was watching it, and I immediately got on the phone with Greg. And I was like, Greg, you're not going to believe this. And I was just in, I was just in shock. There's just no other way to express it. I just didn't know what to think.
Starting point is 01:34:18 And I had heard whoops a few days before that. You know, I didn't think about one coming up in the yard inside the fence. And I watched it. It went down about eight to ten feet down into the woods. And it kept leaning to the left, I mean, it led it into the right. I could see it moving its right arm. And you could see it moving its head.
Starting point is 01:34:39 And it was doing something down to the right-hand side. And I called him, and he was. was like calm down. He was getting play by play of what this thing was doing. I was trying to get screenshots. I got five screenshots. They weren't great, but I was getting them off the camera system. I didn't know any other way to do it. He said, stay in the house. You're seeing something that people would die to see. People would just kill to see what you're seeing. I said, I don't know what it's doing. I said, he keeps leaning to the right. I can see its arm go down to the right. occasionally it would stand up and I could see both arms out to the side, but I would see
Starting point is 01:35:20 hand go down to the right. And then I remember there's two really large trees that were down there. And I said, do you think it's picking mushrooms off those trees? Because decaying trees, we have these brownish-looking mushrooms growing on them. He said, I don't know. So I'm watching it. I watched it from, it started at 1148. And I watched, I got the screenshots.
Starting point is 01:35:49 And you could see a tree. There's a tree down that he was blocking the tree with his body. I couldn't see that part of the tree. And I would say, if you're looking at the tree, it's probably 15 to 20 inches or so, maybe a little more across. He was blocking that. But he dug around in whatever he was doing close to an hour. and finally it walked on down in the woods.
Starting point is 01:36:19 It rained the next day. So my husband and I went down the following day and measured where his head came out on the tree that it came out next to. It measured eight feet from the ground to where his head was, roughly the top of his head was. Where he was standing, there was three game trails that kind of converge there at those trees.
Starting point is 01:36:45 So one went due west, one went behind those trees. He walked out behind. And then there was another one that ran at an angle about halfway between the two of them, kind of southwest, back down towards the creek, the creek. You know, being the time of the year that it was in January, it's just leaf litter and stuff down there, so you couldn't see any footprints.
Starting point is 01:37:08 But those trails were very well packed down. So, Wow. Therapy went out, I know. I mean, I was blown away. I was like, I can't believe this. So I'm more worried about my fence, though. I mean, I'm like, do you think I need to get somebody to come walk my fence line?
Starting point is 01:37:27 I can't walk that fence line because it's so steep. And the guy said, no, don't worry about it eight feet tall. That fence has nothing for him to step over. He's not torn your fence up. And I was like, okay. So that was on 15th, ended on the 16th. On the 17th, we had four chickens in a coop, and Jeffrey had added one young hen to it to make it five. He went out the next morning and found that the youngest, the baby, well, she was probably 16 weeks old.
Starting point is 01:38:08 That hand was gone. No trace of her anywhere. just gone out of the coop. Again, I mentioned earlier he doesn't lock the little slide latch. Didn't mess. And these hands are not laying. We just don't have the heart to do anything with them.
Starting point is 01:38:25 We're just letting them exist. They're kind of pets at this point. But that youngest hen was gone. No sign of her anywhere. No feather trail, nothing. She's gone. We've never found any remnants of her anywhere. On our way out, we noticed about
Starting point is 01:38:43 two-tenths of a mile from my home, there is stick structures off the main road. My husband had seen them, and then he pointed them out to me. I got a couple good pictures. There's some trees that are every bit or 20
Starting point is 01:39:02 feet long, broken in some of these structures, large around. Like if you put your hands together, you couldn't get them around those trees. and we've noticed that those structures, they have increased in numbers since they've started clearing some land back behind there.
Starting point is 01:39:21 This is really wild stuff. I know, and this is recent, and it's just blown my mind. This is like this year, right? This is this year, and then on January 28th, we were leaving to go somewhere, and we went outside, and we were just running up to Walmart,
Starting point is 01:39:44 and it was seven, We don't live that too healthy far, you know, to make a run up there. Around 748, I had a loud whoop. I stepped out the end door. Well, either on January 31st or February 1st, I can't remember which night it was. Around 10.30, I just got a feeling I needed to check the cameras. Now, this one really blew me away. So I started checking the, I checked the end camera first.
Starting point is 01:40:09 And it had been recommended that we go ahead and get a bright light there. When my husband hadn't found the one he wanted to put up there, he was checking different loads and stuff, you know, to find them. And so I started checking the cameras. And when I got to that back corner one again, and I always enlarged them so I can look at the wood line, there was a deer up in the air, a deer head. The first thing I saw was like the neck and head of a deer. And I was like, is that a deer on top of something's head? So I blew it up. And it took me a second to realize what was going on.
Starting point is 01:40:48 The deer was being slung from side to side. The head was. Just rapidly, it went left, right, left, right. I probably watched to get slung five times. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Agents who are realtors do more than open doors. They analyze market trends, interest rates, comps. They can tell you about flood zones, mixed use zones,
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Starting point is 01:42:44 It's said everything happens for a reason, But maybe everything happens for a recesses. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heighten taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. I can see his eyes, his eye open, its ears, having it blown up.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Now, this is, my husband says it's between 90 and 100 feet from that position of the camera on the eve to the edge of the woods there. It was right there on that same game trail, that same area where the one stepped out a few weeks before. I realized that that Bigfoot was apparently slinging that deer back and forth and breaking its neck. And as quickly as it all started, it went down in the woods with it. I sat here with my mouth hanging open, and of course I called my friend again. I'm like, you are not going to believe what I just watched. I said, I cannot believe this. And then I go to, I'm worried, is that my dough that he's killed?
Starting point is 01:44:05 You know, the one that brought her babies in the yard all these years. But to see that happen, there's just no words. There's just no words. I was just completely dumbfounded. Wow. You've got such a really good opportunity, right? It's just, it's crazy. And I'm like, you know, why?
Starting point is 01:44:35 But now, I've said this. I don't believe, in our household, we've discussed this. I don't think this, the one that stepped out and the one that did that to the deer is the same one that's maybe been on the property in the years past. Because that one that stepped out was enormous. I mean, it was enormous. It had to be four feet across when it turned. I got some screenshots. I mentioned it before, Spencer took one and cleaned it up.
Starting point is 01:45:09 And it looks, you could see a large mass. And then you see the Blackberry Barrier's underbrush, good three and a half, four feet tall, I mean, of that, and then you see the mass above it. It is a huge boy. I mean, I say boy, I don't know, but it's a huge big foot. it's really huge. And it gets even crazier.
Starting point is 01:45:38 I don't know how much time I have, but we went on February 4th. We left here. My husband was supposed to pick dinner up. We left here at 720. We decided we would run to town and just grab a bite at a restaurant and come back. We got back at 840, where we were going when we wouldn't be gone long. my husband headed directly in the house as soon as we got here. My son and I got out on our side and walked around the back of our vehicle.
Starting point is 01:46:11 I'd had gravel delivered a few days prior, but we had a pile put here at the end of my house, probably six feet from the corner of my house. I'd had a decent-sized little pile. I wanted to rake it around, you know, pull it up next to the sidewalk, that kind of thing. So I've got to dump me a pile there. as I walked around, I looked down and I said, oh, my word, look. Right in the top of that pile was a huge footprint. You could see, compressed down in the gravel.
Starting point is 01:46:41 I got a picture of it. I had on crocs, and I took off my crock, and I sat at my heel of the crock in it, and the footprint's about four and a half inches. My crop measures 12 inches from the heels of the toe. I measured it with the ruler. And about four inches past that is where the big toe ended on the footprint. Because I took one without it.
Starting point is 01:47:08 You could see the depression. The depression in the loose gravel went down about an inch. On the other side of it was another footprint that had kind of slid in the gravel. And the odor that hits you, Jeremiah, would have made you throw up. My husband said he didn't smell it, but that's nothing unusual. He has sinus issues. But my son and I both were out there going, what is that? It is horrible. It was just gut-wrenching old urine smell. It's the only way I can describe it. You went into an old gas station that hadn't been cleaned in forever. It was just horrid. Burn your eyes horrid. Then they looked like something had urinated a line out from that in the gravel. and I went inside and got a paper towel
Starting point is 01:48:06 and picked one of the rocks up and it smelled as well and put it back down. I didn't think about bagging it. I didn't think about doing anything. I was just shocked. The footprints, we found hill marks from the edge of our grass,
Starting point is 01:48:22 cross the frets gravel, just the hill impressed until it got to that pile. Then out into the front yard toward the chicken tube. We've moved them out towards the apple trees. No chickens were. were harmed or messed with then. So immediately I got, I text my friend Greg again, got on the phone with him. I was telling him what was going on.
Starting point is 01:48:45 And I said, I can't, I just can't believe this. And we kept talking and talking, and we talked a long time. And I had my door open, the indoor. And it had started mist and rain. Whatever that was, that line that I said, look like something had urinated, like four foot, stream of urine across there on the gravel, did not go away when the rain hit it. It was still there when the mist and rain had wet all the gravel. And I was telling him that.
Starting point is 01:49:19 I said, does that mean it's like oilier or something? I mean, you know, I'm ignorant here in some areas. So I'm being honest, I was like, wouldn't it if it had been a human urine, it would have washed off of them, right? It didn't. It stayed there. It just got darker when the other hit. when the misty sprinkles,
Starting point is 01:49:41 whatever you're going to call it, rain hit. Well, we were talking and I said, you know, I hear something on my ramp. I have a handicap ramp built to my door.
Starting point is 01:49:50 And I said, I hear something on the ramp. But I didn't jump up then and go look. But while I was talking to him, I yelled at my son. I said, you need to get the dogs in.
Starting point is 01:50:00 And he was like, I don't want to go out there by myself. That thing's been in the yard. I don't want to go out there. So he said, tell him to tell him to tell. take a bright light and go out there. So he opens the door, goes out with a light, goes out there and gets the dogs, comes back.
Starting point is 01:50:17 I go out on the ramp. I turn around and they're on the ramp as a footprint. It's not like the toes in the hill, you know, like a solid footprint. But you could see what, if you could imagine like wet hair, you know, stringy, this, you know, how you can sling a mop on the floor and it leaves those marks. That's what it looked like on the ramp. It had been, I almost get choked up thinking about this, it had been standing within three feet of my screen door while I was on the phone.
Starting point is 01:50:57 This is all in the same night. We now have an extremely bright light out there, but we're still getting pebbles thrown at the end of the house or rocks or sticks. There is a three-foot stick out there now that I saw yesterday. that wasn't out there before. Like it's maybe an inch in diameter that's probably hit the house and landed where it is about four feet from the house.
Starting point is 01:51:30 So I've expressed it to them. I'm concerned that this one is more... I don't want to use the word aggressive, inquisitive. Would that be a good term? I'd say curious and not afraid for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, my son has been afraid to go out at night to get the dogs out of their kennel.
Starting point is 01:51:55 The kennel's kind of halfway between the house and the woods. And a few nights later, he was like, I don't want to go out there. And I said, I'll go with you. So he had the light, the one that, you know, the bright one. I was right behind him within two feet of him. He went out, stepped on the ramp, turned around, almost ran over me. He said, Mama, that thing is at the corner. of the dog kennel.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Its head is above, there are those six by ten panels. He said its head is above, it's on the tree side. He said, it's heads above the dog kennel and it just took off running. He said, I'm not going to get the dogs. I said, well, you've got to go get them
Starting point is 01:52:37 because I don't want them left out there, you know, with it in the yard. But then he came up to the corner of the dog kennel. Then we found the dog kennel was, on that side, was pulled about three feet at the top. It didn't bend the, you know where the panels
Starting point is 01:52:57 joined together? It was pulled probably three feet towards the woods. Well, the whole panel was pulled three feet or four towards the woods. Like it was trying to figure out how to get into it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:53:12 And then we came home from church the Sunday after that and the side closest to the house was leaning in towards the dogs. So a lady in Tennessee said, well, the time of year it is, it may be looking for some food. So that is, other than hearing the little pebbles, I mean, that pretty much brings us up to where we're at now. We've been listening and I take that back. We burnt some things other night at dusk.
Starting point is 01:53:49 And we, Jeffrey and I both watched it on the camera. It was down behind the tree, picking out from behind the tree while he was burning. All right. Sandra, this is wild. It's wild. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the last, we have a few minutes left, but I really want to talk about this real.
Starting point is 01:54:11 So are you watching this security camera on like a phone? Yes. Okay. So what kind of phone do you have? Well, at the time that I was trying to do screenshots. Yeah. I had a Samsung Galaxy S-24. It was a not nicer phone, but I'm used to an iPhone.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Right. And I couldn't figure out how to get my screenshots. And I finally, my husband, that night, that I did get some screenshots. He said, you've got to push this and this, and you get your screenshots. So I think I got five. And one of them, like I said, I mentioned in Spencer Jameson, cleaned up and got a pretty good backside of that one. And then I now, as of last week, I'm back to an iPhone. Okay. So I'm kind of excited about that because I can handle it better.
Starting point is 01:55:09 And if I see it on the camera again, and then Greg suggested that if I see the, if I see it back there again to take my son's phone, which I think is a pretty good idea, and film it off my phone. That's pretty much what I was going to say. Or you should be able to on your own iPhone slide down and do a screen recording of what's on your screen so you can get the actual video. Either way, yeah. I can do that now and that. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Perfect. Yeah. That would be great. Yeah. Oh, man. But I haven't had the phone. I haven't had any activities since we got the phones changed back. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Yeah. So none that I've called anyway. But I mean, this is just, and the stick structures that I mentioned earlier have ramped up. There was like four or five over there six months ago. And now there's probably 12, 13. And there's also a blind that I got a picture of that's over there. Oh, man. This just blows my mind.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Oh, yeah. I have some people that say they're going to come. I don't want, I don't really want these people that want to, they say they want to investigate, but then they come armed to the hilt and you know what they want. I don't want them to bother them because everybody always says,
Starting point is 01:56:33 what do you think they are? And I said, I think there's some form of human. I said, I don't really think they're a gorilla because I've looked too closely in its face. I just don't, I just don't think so. I don't believe that they have portals. I don't believe they transport.
Starting point is 01:56:50 I don't believe all that. But I do think that they probably have abilities you and I don't because they've survived in the wild so long. Oh, they're great at surviving. You know, they know how to, they know how to camouflage. They know how to hide behind things. You know, they possess those abilities. And I do believe that, but I don't want,
Starting point is 01:57:12 I just don't want somebody to come here humming them. Let's put it that way. I don't. Absolutely. And that's important for you to know as the landowner, and you can hopefully keep those certain individuals. from coming onto your property, you know. And I've had a neighbor in the past
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Starting point is 01:59:10 Just go to Indeed.com slash podcast right now. Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? This is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. They say everything happens for a reason, but I suspect everything happens for a recess. Like this commercial break. Did you need 15 seconds away from music? Or 15 seconds. to eat or Reese's. Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a recesses. Well, he watched them at night. I forgot to mention that. And he would sit out and smoke late at night. He was a renter. And he would sit on the porch and smoke. And he said, I hate to bring this up, but he said, you don't think I'm crazy. I said, no, I don't think you're crazy. He said, it's huge. It's black. But he didn't describe it as being real wide. He just said it was tall. I think it's the
Starting point is 02:00:09 younger one. I keep saying it's a younger one because we've seen the smaller footprint and then we see the larger footprint. I think we've had one that's kind of grown up around somewhere close by. Then my other neighbor, the neighbor next to me said that she thought that there was a cave down on the backside of their property. But it gets so steep that they just don't walk down there. And we don't walk down there either because it's so steep going towards the creek. So I said, well, I don't know. You know, we have limestone outcroppings all around. here and there's bluffs and stuff. So you don't know and you don't
Starting point is 02:00:43 know what comes up to the creek from the larger area either. Oh man, Miss Sandra. You've got some wild stuff going on. It has been just an intense conversation with you. You've got some stuff going on. Thankfully, you're talking to people like Spencer and Greg and Misty
Starting point is 02:01:01 that really know the down south Bigfoot and the Bougar action. And I know that you've been, people can also watch your interviews over on the Woodwalkers channel, which is awesome. I love it. But yeah, please keep me, you know, in the loop, but keep them in the loop first. I mean, they're the boots on the ground guys down there. Well, you know, I call, I tell Greg, he looks a lot like my brother that passed away in 2017.
Starting point is 02:01:29 So I call him, I tell him he's a brother from another mother. Absolutely. But, you know, when something happens, I'm like, Greg. Right. Because I'm panicking. Right. But this has just been a while six months, you know, since when we saw that one in November, or not quite six months.
Starting point is 02:01:49 But, yeah, since the first of the year. Because normally December, January, it's quiet. That's why I'm saying this is a different one. It's quiet. And it just disturbs me that it doesn't have a problem coming up to the door, the house. And it did come up with the bright light once the light was up. It came up. That's not good.
Starting point is 02:02:11 So, hey, I don't want to say aggressive, but like I said, inquisitive, like you said, curious. Yep. So I guess it remains to be seen if it goes away or if it keeps hanging around or what's going to happen. Yeah, you guys are okay. Just be aware. Keep being aware of what's going on and keep in touch with Greg for sure. But, yeah, Ms. Sandra, thank you so much for chatting today. and I hope we will stay in touch.
Starting point is 02:02:39 But yeah. Oh, I'll be glad to keep you. I'll send you a text once in a while that you know what's going on. Thank you so much. Pleasure talking to you today and good luck down there. Thanks for hearing my experiences. It's nice to be able to talk to somebody that doesn't say, oh, well, you're just an idiot. Definitely not.
Starting point is 02:02:59 Yes, ma'am. All right. We will talk later, all right? All right. Thanks, dear ma. Thank you. Bye-bye. Just wanted to take a minute to say thank you truly for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Sandra's story is the kind that lingers, not just because of how close that window encounter was, but because of how long it's followed her.
Starting point is 02:03:26 From that first face-to-face moment at 13 to footprints, handprints, and stripped peach trees decades later, it's clear that something in those Alabama woods never left. huge thanks to Sandra for bravely sharing what she saw in continuing the conversation that so many are afraid to start. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to us on YouTube, click that bell so you never miss an encounter, and share this with someone who loves a good mystery, especially if they're from the south. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and make sure you're following the show. And if you had an encounter of your own, shoot me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. I want to hear your story.
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