Bigfoot Society - Frozen with Fear in the Deep Woods of Oregon

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeremiah interviews Brad, a listener from Oregon who shares several compelling and mysterious encounters he's had over the years in Oregon's wilderness. From eerie ...interactions with wildlife, unexplained noises, and terrifying moments frozen with fear, Brad recounts his chilling experiences and potential Bigfoot-related incidents. Brad also discusses strange lights and sounds, and draws possible connections to Bigfoot activities. Despite the unsettling nature of his experiences, Brad continues to explore and appreciate the outdoors with a renewed sense of respect and gratitude.Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:15 reached out with some really interesting things that he's experienced over the years Brad I'm so glad you reached out and I'm excited to talk to you tonight how's it going man great Jeremiah thanks for having me on the show awesome we talked a little bit in the pre-interview, and this is going to get pretty interesting. There's even some Oak Ridge, Oregon related stuff. I'm coming up. But Brad, I'm going to give it right over to you, and we'll get right into it tonight. All right. Thank you very much, Jeremiah. I grew up in Eugene, Oregon, and I was an outdoorsy kind of kid. My grandparents lived on the McKinsey River up near the town of Vida, And I spent all my childhood free time up there roaming the woods and the creeks and the hillsides.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And grandparents are a little looser and the parents are about where the kid is. So I had free range in the mountains. I never really thought about Sasquatch or Bigfoot at all growing up and never really had anything happened to me that would make me think that there were any Bigfoot around. but until I was about and see how old was I was probably around 14 years old, 15 years old, my grandma would drive me up these old logging roads with my bow and I would hunt these logging roads on my way and just wander my way back to her house down these logging roads. And there was a time she dropped me off and it's about a three or four mile walk back down
Starting point is 00:03:50 to her house. And I was let out of the car. and the birds were chirping and the squirrels were chattering at me and I would usually sit and wait, sit in a little burrow ditch and wait for her car until I couldn't hear her car anymore and then I start walking down the logging road and never really planned on shooting a deer or a bow was more of just me being out in the woods.
Starting point is 00:04:14 But anyway, I heard her car disappear out of range, out of my hearing and all of a sudden I just had this very strange, sensation of being, it's like the forest just went silent and I just got a really weird feeling. So I'm standing on the logging road looking down into the ravine below me and these three deer come creeping up out of the ravine, really low, really a strange movement hunkered down and almost trying to crawl. And they were covered in sweat, totally lathered over and their eyes were bowled. out of their heads and they walked within. I could have reached out and hit one touch with my arrow.
Starting point is 00:05:00 They were so close and they could have cared less that I was there. I thought that was really weird. And so I'm looking down into the ravine where they came from. And a tree, like, it just got cracked in half and was pushed over. And there was no wind. There was no reason for it to happen. It sounded like a healthy, live green fir tree just snapped in half. That was the first encounter, but again, in the 80s,
Starting point is 00:05:28 I was definitely not on my mind. I just thought it was strange and wandered on back to my grandma's house. And then let's see, there was another time. I'm going to back up when I was a little younger. Before you do that, I just want to clarify something. So when you were looking down the ravine, you heard that tree get cracked in half and pushed over. Yeah, the deer had walked by me, I couldn't figure out why they were, because I'd never seen deer behave like that.
Starting point is 00:06:00 They were just, it was almost like they were creeping past me, and their eyes were bulged out, and they looked, if you see a horse, it's all that's been run too hard, they just had this sheen of, they look terrified. And then this tree just goes crack and goes crashing down to the ground. Green, not punky, just a green, big fir tree. It sounded like a mature tree. And it didn't freak me out, but I just was odd. And so I, high-tick and high-tailed it, I just mosey back to my grandma's house. When you were out in the woods with your bow, did you ever hear any sounds out there that didn't fit with what should be out in the wood? The only times I ever did are the stories I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Other than that, never, which is strange. It never crossed my mind. I was never, no, no signs there. never even crossed my mind. I'll back up a little bit. I skipped this one. This happened when I was 10 years old on Lost Creek
Starting point is 00:06:59 at Lost Creek Campground. It's on the west side of Mount Hood in 1980. And I know the date exactly because the day after this event happened, Mount St. Allen's erupted. So it was May, 1980, it's when this happened. And I was camping with a family friend
Starting point is 00:07:16 for the weekend. And again, I completely forgot about this until I heard somebody tell a similar story. And it's funny how these things come back to you. When you hear something that just sparked this memory. And we were camping at this campground. And it was a, you pull your trailer in. And it was a pretty crowded campground. And there we had a camper.
Starting point is 00:07:43 There was a tent. There's a cable set up. There was a fire pit. So it was a cramped little space. And it's night, and my friend and I are sleeping in the tent, and his parents are sleeping in the camper. And I'm laying there in bed. I don't know what time it was, Ken, between 10 and midnight, probably, because I wasn't asleep yet. And I heard what sounded like a deer bounding through the camp, bump, bounding, and then it stopped right outside our tent.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And we had a little cord that was a cold in the vestibule. we had it tied around a tree, and I kept hearing this thump. It was twang in the cord, and I thought, oh, a deer must have jumped, jumped the cord or tripped into the cord or something, and then it thumped away. But what was weird is a few minutes later, I thought came back, and it did the same thing. It was twang in the little cord that was holding the vestibule at the tent, probably two or three twangings, like a guitar string.
Starting point is 00:08:45 And then it thumped, dump. dump the way through camp and that was it so i wake up in the morning i was like gosh did you guys hear that deer in camp last night and no one they didn't hear anything and but then i started thinking if there's no way a deer could have run through the camp because it's so there's coolers and there's stuff everywhere besides it was flicking the it was it would thump thump up to the can't stop and then the little cord would go bang bling and glibrate the camp So that happened. It did that two times.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And then the next morning, that morning, we forgot all about it because Mount St. Helens had erupted while we were having breakfast and you could hear the sonic boom and the ground shook and we all knew what it was. You know, everyone in the Northwest was waiting for it to happen. So that sort of trumped whatever happened to me that night, which that was pretty cool. And then there was ash all over our cars the next day. It was cool. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I've got another. I'll talk a little bit more about what happened upon the McKinsey River where I grew out. So let's see. This is a weird one. So the year was, let's see, I wrote all this stuff down. 19. I was a junior in high school. And my grandma was a really cool old lady.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And all my high school friends would come up there and spend the night. She'd cook for us and we fish and run around the forest and play in the yard. She had about 13 acres. And one night we were out playing a game called Kick the Can, which is like a hide-and-seat game where you put a can in the middle of the shield. And one person guards it. If someone gets tagged and you tick the can, the person he tagged was free. So we're all out.
Starting point is 00:10:39 There's probably eight of us out playing this game. and I'm hiding in some ferns, and all of a sudden, a couple of the people who are in it, there's two people who are in the field, and they're out in the field and they stop, and they are just staring up at the mountainside that's next to the property,
Starting point is 00:10:59 and pretty soon all the rest of the kids come out, and they're all looking up in the sky, and what the heck's going on? So I get out of my hiding spot, and I joined him in the field, and I look up, And there are three blue-ish green, I think there were blueish-green balls of light, about the size of beach balls, big kind of rubber beach balls you would see at like a music festival or something.
Starting point is 00:11:26 And there was, so if I'm looking straight across the property to the hillside is 12 o'clock. There was one at about 9 o'clock that was maybe 3 or 400 yards away, not on our property, that the next piece of property above the forest there, there was one probably 10 o'clock that was right above where this creek runs down into our property. And then there was one at about one o'clock. And they were just green orb, beish balls
Starting point is 00:12:00 just hovering in the sky. And we're all like, whoa, what's going on? What's that? We didn't know what they were. And the Rolodex starts going over in your mind. Is it a weather balloon? What is it? What is it? And then it was none of that. It was just these balls of light. And at the same time, so they were just stationary in the sky above the fir trees. And there were different elevations. So one was down an R across from us flat, probably 20 feet above the fir trees there. And the other one was another up the hillside. There were all the same distance above the fir trees, if that makes sense. And all of a sudden, at the very same time, they started. descending into the trees, into the fir trees.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And you could see all the boughs of the fir trees lighting up around them. And they just slowly went into the forest. At the same time, it was really weird. And we freaked out and all went back inside and called it a night. So that was strange. So the next day, so this is at the end of September, most of the kids left that next day, and my buddy and I were going to go growl something.
Starting point is 00:13:10 and we stayed. So we're like, I'll go grouse hunting. And so there's an old logging road straight across from my grandma's place. And so we always hunt this logging road, and we'd hike a couple miles up, and there was this really neat kind of, we're hunting in, I'd say, a second growth,
Starting point is 00:13:30 so the trees were probably 60 or 70 years old and pretty mature forest. But there was a really cool spot that the loggers had left, that they didn't cut. It was maybe eight or nine acres with really beautiful old growth. And so we'd go hike to that spot and go leave our, we'd always leave our guns outside.
Starting point is 00:13:49 We never took anything in there, any guns or weapons, just because it was such a, it felt like a sort of a sacred place. It was really amazing. So we'd go and sit and visit. And then we'd hunt back down the road to my grandma's house. And there was a, so between this neat little old growth section and her house, and her house was a giant, one of those big giant power lines that go across the state, those giant high-tension power lines.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And our little service road ran under it. And we'd always, we'd go to the little old-grilled spot, come down, and then turn down the little service road underneath the high-tension power lines and eat the sandwich and drink something. Because it was in the sun, because when you're in the... on these logging roads and these big trees is like a tunnel. There's no direct sunlight. So we'd always go and get a little sunshine on our faces and have a sandwich
Starting point is 00:14:46 and just sit and look out across the mountains. So we've done that. We're on our way back down. And this is where it gets pretty weird. And so let me see. So we're walking down the road and we're about to turn, turn right to go down this little service road, logging road, to eat our sandwich. And from our right side, probably 20 yards just off the edge of the logging road in the forest, we hear two whoops.
Starting point is 00:15:21 You know, whoop, whoop, really loud. And before we can really acknowledge what we just heard, we both just stop and freeze and this way to, unbelievable fear that I can't really describe came over us. It was like we walked into an invisible sort of bowl of jelly. I couldn't move. Neither could my friend. And the fear was, I can't describe the fear. It's just, unless it's happened to you, I think it's hard to explain.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So the hoops happen. And then across the little service road, there's another, the forest continues. But the face of this forest, is it gets a lot of sunlight. So it was scotch broom, blackberries, so you couldn't really see into the little thicket of trees that was on the other side. And from that side, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:16:21 and we're frozen and we can't move. And all this night hear the sound, and I've gone online and listened to certain animals as I've heard people's accounts. And it sounded exactly like, if you listen to what an alligator or a crocodile, sounds like they vibrate. I don't think they have vocal cords, but they make this weird vibrating noise. It sounded exactly like that. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture Eistas with Matt Rogers and
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Starting point is 00:18:56 Go to AARP.org slash iHeart to join today. At first, we're just, my eyes are bulging out of my head and the noise is just, it's reverberating through this whole little landing that we're standing in. We can kind of, at this point I'm sort of like, oh gosh, starting to maybe tith it around a little bit. I can, my senses are coming back and we're talking back and forth, like, what the heck's going on? And as we start to talk, that sound, and it's inhaling and it's just raspy, inhale and just vibrating out this noise. it sounds like an alligator.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And then it goes from that sound to, and again, I've listened to, I found these sounds online. It sounded like, if you ever heard, listen to a lion where it eats, like a big male lion eating, kind of purrs and growls at the same time. So it would inhale,
Starting point is 00:19:53 you could hear it inhaling this really raspy noise, and then when it would exhale, it would make this sort of purring growl like a lion. but it was really loud. And all I could think of was, if the king's got to be the size of a rhinoceros, whatever's in there. And it was doing that,
Starting point is 00:20:10 you would inhale and then exhale this purring, strange growl. And we're starting to freak out a little bit, obviously, and we're thinking to ourselves, what in the heck? You're going, not a deer, not an elk, not a cuder, not a dare, and not a person in there trying to mess with it. But again, I'm not thinking Bigfoot at all, which is weird because going up in Oregon, you hear about Bigfoot, but it just wasn't entering my mind. So we're standing there, and I'd forgotten we even have guns because we're just so scared. So as we start to shift our bodies, this is maybe a minute or two has gone by since we heard those initial hoops.
Starting point is 00:20:54 So it's going by pretty quick, and my mind's just racing, racing, trying to figure out what's happening. And if we start to talk, what are we going to do? How are we going to get? Because we have to walk underneath there. Because the road cuts down below where this is happening in this little thicket of trees. And the trees are probably, it's a newer growth of fir trees. And the trees were probably 30, 40 feet tall. But you couldn't see.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Like I said, you couldn't really see in. So we're like, oh, shoot. How are we going to get below? Get out of here. That thing is, whatever that thing is, it's mad. So as we're shifting and we're starting to talk about what we're going to do, I'm like, we each have a 12-gate shotgun. We could fire over the trees, wait for it to run off, and then boogie out of there.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And the minute I started to, with my gun, to consider lifting it up and firing it, the place erupted. It went from this weird purring growl to just this screaming roar. of, I can't, again, I can't describe it. It was just blowing through our body, like blowing through our bodies, and the trees started to shake, and there was branches starting to snap. And I remember seeing two trees that were probably 35 or 40 feet tall next to each other, just shaking violently back and forth.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I'm like, gosh, what in the heck can be doing that? And then they went from back and forth to front and back completely different directions at the same time. like something was grabbing them with their hands and just shaking them back and forth. So we're terrified and we don't know what to do. I think I'm crying at this point and just the cheer, just poof, overwhelmed. So screw it. We got to get out of here. So we both agree, we're going to shoot over this thing, over the trees and then bolt underneath it.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Hopefully the sound of our guns will scare it off. So, yeah, we fire over the tree tops and we wait a second. and to see if you can hear whatever's in there take off, it didn't. It just what we thought was pretty much max, it just elevated even worse, and it was screaming and making those crazy sounds. And so we just heck with it. We got to go. So we bolted.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And if you hiked on logging roads, you know that the rocks, it's not small little gravel that are big rocks, and it's hard to keep your balance. And so I'm thinking the whole time is I'm going to wipe out. and this thing's going to jump down and grab me. I'm running as fast as I've ever ran before. My heels were hitting my butt, and I got a shotgun and hiking boots on, and we're hauling down this road.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And as I'm running underneath, as we're running underneath where this thing is, I'm just thinking this thing's going to grab me. I'm dead. We're going to die. But for some reason, it never did. But the hair on my neck, I could just feel it above me. I never saw it, but I can. could just tell that there was, and it was huffing, and at this point it had stopped for all the ruckus,
Starting point is 00:24:02 and was just up there huffing and breathing really loudly. And I could just feel, because I ran path, ran underneath this thing, feel it above me. And I just thought it was going to reach down and ground me. But it never did. And so booked it to my grandma's house, which we had to cross a road, and down her driveway is probably 100 yards long, to where her house was. And so we make it to the front yard and she's out in the yard. She must have heard the shots. So she's out there. What's wrong? What's going on? I heard shots. And she's a tough old lady. And we told her what happened and we're crying and we're freaked out. And she looked at us and says, you ran into a big foot. And we looked at each other and like, what? For some reason, it's just
Starting point is 00:24:50 still not sinking in. That's what it was. And we're like, what do you mean? We ran into a Bigfoot. And she says, well, there's a pizza joint that's down the road on the highway from her house that her and her friend would go to every Friday night and have a glass of wine and eat pizza. And she was telling me that they told us that when she would go, her and her friend Ellen would go and have pizza and drink wine, the loggers would, it was the loggers hang out back in the 80s. The logging industry was a very different back then as smaller operations and families and things it was a lot different than it is now. But that's where all the loggers would go on Friday night and hang out.
Starting point is 00:25:31 She said that she'd overhear the loggers talk about things like this happening to them in the forest. She said, I would hear story after story of these sort of things happening and hear them from these loggers who are out there doing it, logging, and they're in the forest every day. That's it. And so the next day, and it didn't really affect me. the way I hear people talk about getting terrified of going back in the woods. It was like it was erased from my mind.
Starting point is 00:26:01 So the next day, I'm up there, and my friend had to leave, had to go back to Eugene. And so I stayed, and I said, Grandma, I'm going to go and back up to where that happened and look around and see what I can see. Because I'm still thinking, for whatever reason, I couldn't get it into my head that it was a big foot or Sasquatch. I'm going to go look for hoofs tracks So I'm going to go look for claw marks in the tree Because that's what I thought it was for some reason I go up there
Starting point is 00:26:29 It's not very far away It's probably less than a quarter of a mile From her house up this road The logging road So I go into this thicket Where this had happened And there's I'm not
Starting point is 00:26:43 I need nothing about big foot tracks Or what to look for in that regard I'm just looking for hoof prints I'm looking for scrapes from antlers and I'm looking for claw marks. And there was none of that. But what was weird is that when I got into the thicket, because it had snapped a bunch of fur boughs,
Starting point is 00:27:01 and there should have been broken boughs. You could see where they'd been broken off the trees where this thing had snapped them fresh breaks. But there were zero. I couldn't find any fur boughs on the ground. They were gone, something that took them up and take them away. And the ground was really beat down. It's a lot of fur needles and things.
Starting point is 00:27:21 where I couldn't make out any tracks. I didn't see me obviously footprints or car marks in the tree. So now's it. And I just forgot about it after that. That is an incredible account. Even though there wasn't a visual, that is a wild encounter. Do you think that pizza place is still there? I still go there, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Is that, is that Ike's pizza? It's Ike's pizza, yeah. All right, we can cut that out if you want. No, that's fine. Yeah, Ike's pizza for sure. Yeah, I just have a Google Maps up. The interesting thing I noticed is while you were telling that story, you were talking about how it was like alligators. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:05 The weird thing is that the thing you were describing, that's actually an infrasound thing. Oh, it is? If you look it up, like when they use those bellows, that's an infrasound. Oh, no way. Crazy. I didn't know that. So you can buy that. It hit me.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Yeah. Yeah. That's weird. Because I heard someone mention it on a, that's what it sounded like to them. And so I went and listened to it and said, whoa, that's exactly what it sounded like. And it just, I don't know what interest sound does, but man, I was frozen. We couldn't move. It was like I walked into an invisible force field.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Exactly. And most frozen and grace. It was so weird. I didn't feel sick. I never got nauseous or anything. I just couldn't move, and I was so scared that I was crying. And for no reason, because I don't think, I think the wave when we froze, happened before I even heard anything.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I think I was frozen in place before I even started hearing that alligator-type sound. That's wild. That alone is enough for me to hearing. That's enough that you definitely experienced some crazy stuff in the woods that day. No question. It was bizarre. Yeah, it was weird. So to end this part of the story, so I completely forgotten about this event.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I was getting ready to graduate high school that next year. And after I graduated high school, I moved to Idaho and became a ski bum for about a decade and spent all that time just in the mountains of Idaho, exploring, skiing, fishing, all types of, all times of year, all seasons. and never even thought about Sasquodge or Bigfoot. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture Easters with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. This is Bowen-Yang from Los Culture Reasters with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card and earn up to 5% cashbacks on your favorite bundle of brands when you join Venmo's stash. Your rewards come from bundles of brands you can keep or switch every 30 days so you can choose the ones that match your everyday spending. The more you do with Venmo, the more you get. Earn 2% cash back when you set up auto reloads.
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Starting point is 00:32:07 you'll receive AARP benefits for two. Go to AARP.org slash IHeart to join today. Didn't cross my mind. In my ski bum career, and the year's about, it's about 2002, and I'm going to school in Boise, at Boise State University to get my teaching certificate. And Boise is a really cool city. There's the river runs right through town, and on the south side of the river, there's the college, and on the north side of the river, there are all these really pretty parks and
Starting point is 00:32:37 concert, little concert shells and things, and there's an old zoo, like an old, It's one of the old school, small town depressing-looking zoos. And so I would have to, the footbridge to get to the colleges right next to the zoo. So I think I'm a junior or something at this point. And I'm cruising on my bike, and it's early in the morning, and I'm riding past the zoo, and I hear these hoops coming from the zoo. I'm 31 years old, and this happened, this event happened to me back when I was 17 years old. And I just instantly froze on my bike.
Starting point is 00:33:13 and stopped and was just catapulted back to that disavent that I just told you about. Like instantly, I could see the color of the rocks. I could see the shadows. Every tiny detail just came flooding back into me when I heard these hoops coming from the zoo. It was really weird. And I had to go to class, and the zoo hadn't opened yet. So I was like, I'm going. Once the zoo opens, I'm going over there and going to ask the zookeeper,
Starting point is 00:33:41 what the heck makes those noises. So I do, I go, hey, I don't, I don't want to go through the zoo. I just want to know, I want to go to your primary area, and will you show me, I've heard these really loud hoops this morning. I hear what makes those noises? And he took me to the given cage, and he goes, those are, those are givins, and that's what you heard in the morning. And they were making a little bit of whooping sounds, but it was identical, a little higher
Starting point is 00:34:08 pitch, and obviously smaller lump capacity, but it was the exact, same sound that I'd heard in the forest. It was bizarre. It froze me on my bike. Like I stopped. I was oblivious to whatever was going on around me. I was just transported back to that galley in the forest. And up to that point, like I said, I never even crossed my mind until I heard those
Starting point is 00:34:33 givens coming from the zoo. I'm so glad that you said the little higher pitch because I personally, personally have heard similar things. And I was just thinking in my mind, I was like, it is very much the same, but it's a little lower. And when you said a little higher pitch, I was like, yeah, absolutely, 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:55 But the same kind of sound, just a little higher pitch. It was weird. That would just, that sound catapulted me back in times and every single detail just became so vivid. It was bizarre. I had a terrible memory.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I can't remember anything. I don't know what I had for dinner last night, but how in the heck that could happen and everything be so clear, which was really strange. That's wild. I have a few questions before we leave this part. Did you ever ask your grandma
Starting point is 00:35:26 if she had any Bigfoot experiences when you were out there with you? You know, I don't remember. She never would have told me anyway. She was pretty, because she wouldn't want to scare him from going back in the forest. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Because it didn't slow me down a bed. I just kept. going back out. Yeah, so I never asked. I share with the Patreon members a little bit about upcoming episodes, and they're really interested to read about what you had sent over. And some of them had some, I'm always like, hey, if you guys have questions for this interviewee, put them in the comments. So there's a few that are actually related to this part, I believe. Slaya asked, have these events, have they affected your ability to be in the mountains in the woods at all? Or did
Starting point is 00:36:11 not affect you in a way where you're like I'm never going in the woods again it didn't like I said I forgot about it for some reason it never bothered it never slowed me down a bit like I moved to Idaho and was I spent I was out in the woods all the time no it never did got you never had a negative effect and even now I live back in Oregon and we're out all the time I'm aware and I'm very conscious of that and And I treat the forest a little differently, I think, in terms of how I approach it, you know, I have a lot more gratitude, I guess. Absolutely. Scott had some questions that are interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:54 So you alluded to how if you grow up in the Pacific Northwest, you know about Bigfoot, right? So his question is, living in the Pacific Northwest, Bigfoot seems to be part of the culture. Were you a believer before your experiences? and you had some really young age experiences. Yeah, but I never equated that to Bigfoot until I heard someone talk about it on the podcast. Then I was like, well, kind of like the bike thing at the zoo. It just triggered this event.
Starting point is 00:37:22 So someone mentioned it on their shirt on, I was like, oh, wow, that kind of happened to me. Yeah, I had a hunch. It was real. You know, I'd seen the Roger Patterson film, and I think at that point, though, when I was a kid, I felt like there was one of them, and that's where they lived down in California.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And we jokes, we get a lot of camping. And we were always joking about it, but I don't think anybody took it serious for some, at least that the people I knew, and then the circle of friends I hung out with. Up until, obviously, at that point. Yeah. But you hear about it, but it just was never,
Starting point is 00:37:56 I don't know if we wanted it to be true because it would keep us from going out. Maybe we just turned it out. We camped in places where I hear about accounts, the coast range, out all over the place, and aside from these few events that I've had happened to me, for the amount of time I spent out there, these are very few. There was also an interesting part where you were sharing about the lights coming down into the trees,
Starting point is 00:38:19 and you saw those large lights. So the rights, yeah, that was really weird. There were three of them, and there was one that came down to our, I guess that would be to the east, but it was maybe at the edge of our property or maybe just past the edge of our property. We had about 13 acres. and it just into the forest. And then there was one that there's a creek that runs through our property, and it comes down the mountain across the road.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And one of the lights went down on the left side, the east side of the drainage. And the other one came down basically right on top of where this encounter happened. Oh, really? The next day. Yeah. So the third light was the light came down into basically that. Because I Google Earth the distance, and it was 520. yards away as a crossbar. And it was basically just right on top before it had happened.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And I'd never crossed my mind until, I never connected the two until I started hearing accounts with lights and the Sasquatch being related. And I don't know whether they're not this, but I never saw those lights and I never really had an encounter like that. And so are they connected? I don't know. That's pretty close to what is, I think he was getting at Scott was getting out with this question perhaps relation to lights was seemed that he may believe that there are big paranormal ties or just a coincidence or or just a lot of questions yeah I don't know I don't like the word paranormal I just think nature that we don't know about love it yeah I think it's beyond I think it just has been
Starting point is 00:39:58 happening I don't know if he's to reconnected but it just seemed weird that the light literally went into the forest where there this occurred. And again, I never made that connection until I started listening to podcasts. Even that day, what it's happening. I'm like, oh, the light came down and now there's something in there. It was the start this thing from my mind, which is bizarre now that I think back. And what are the chances that you have this light coming down almost in the same area where you have this encounter? And it's like, that, man, it's got to be connected somehow. But yeah, we just don't know to acknowledge you. And not now of having heard enough
Starting point is 00:40:35 people being interviewed who have had similar things happen. If people are so afraid they're just say, duh, I think it's probably connected. How could it not? Because I've never seen lights before that, and I never had an encounter quite in that spot. It was just too much for coincidence. Any UFO activity ever in this area?
Starting point is 00:40:56 Not in that area, huh? Yeah. Light's pretty fantastic. Feel free to continue. I think we have a few other things to discuss as well. I've got, yeah, I've got a couple more, and these are not related to this property on the McKinsey. These are more along the Willamette Pass area, which is from Eugene itself. So you go through Oak Ridge, and you'll end up at Crater Lake.
Starting point is 00:41:19 And if you keep going south, you'll end up in Clammouth Falls. But when I wasn't up at the McKinsey, at my grandma's place, I was out. My dad loved to flyfish, and he got me into fly fishing when I was really young. and we would, he had a spot up right in the town of Oak Ridge where there's an old, I don't know what's there now, but there was a rock quarry. This is Matt Rogers from Los Cultureistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Los Culture Reasters with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card and earn up to 5% cashbacks on your favorite bundle of brands when you join Venmo's stash. Your rewards come from bundles of brands you can keep or switch every 30 days so you can choose the ones that match your everyday spending.
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Starting point is 00:43:51 Go to aARP.org slash Iheart to join today. In town, and the river, the Willamette River flowed through the bottom of town, and we would fish this rock quarry and it was really excellent trout fishing and I was with my dad I was probably 12 or 13 years old and we were up fishing the rock quarry and we'd caught some fish and there was a little isolated pool of water up against the hillside that the fish couldn't get out of so I didn't keep fish or we didn't eat and we'd let them go we'd catch and release but I was young, so I put him in this little pool of water and just watched them swim around. I was going to let him go eventually.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And my dad said, hey, let's go up and around the corner and fish this riffle. And I'm like, all right, so we leave the fish. There's probably four or five fish, rainbow trout in this pool that's probably the size of a little plastic kitty pool. But there's no way in or out. there's no way for the fish to get out. And if it was in the shade, I made sure they were in the shade. The forest came down, and so the fish had some shade. And I was going to let them go when we got back.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So we go, we fish, and we come back, and the fish are just completely gone. There's no sign that a bird had come and plucked them or anything. It was just really strange. One minute, this little pools full of fish, and the next minute they're gone. I don't know if that has anything to do with Bigfoot, but it was really weird. And it was up against the hillside. And it was just an odd to come back to. We both looked at you and said, oh, where'd they go?
Starting point is 00:45:43 There were no ravens around. There were no, I don't know what could have came and took that many fish. So that's an interesting side note. And then I have one more. And this happened at Murray Lake in 1987. I was a senior in high school. And we were, there were five of us, and we were going to go, three of us were going to hike. We're going to camp at Murray Lake.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And three of us were going to hike the south side of Diamond Peak and ski to the snowfields up there and come back and camp. And there are other two guys. We're going to hang out at the camp and fish. We leave the trailhead and we're hiking to the lake. And we get a mile and a half, two miles into the hike, and we come to a three. So this is all part. pine trees and it's high-desertie mountains. It's not lush like it is on the McKinsey where there's ferns and big fir trees and
Starting point is 00:46:37 it's a bit different ecosystem. So we're hiking through these dry pine, this little dry pine forest and we dip down into this basin that's maybe four or five, three or four acres. And it's just, but it's, and it turns into a totally different play ecosystem. There's ferns, there's cedar trees. It's really beautiful. There's a little bog, like a fresh water bog-type spring coming out of the ground. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And as we're five of us and we're walking in and we're all thinking the same thing, oh, wow, we're going to explore this. This is real pretty. And the minute we all got to the crown of this little trail where we were going to drop down into the, this area, this smell just walked it in on us. Like, I don't know, like really dead, like skunk cabbage times 10 with, I don't know how to explain. Just awful smell came out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And we instantly all decided we're just going, let's just keep going and keep walking. Just to not, for us not to explore something that cool at that age, you know, as a kid, it was bizarre that we all chose to keep going. And then the smell just instantly vanished as we left that spot. So we get to this lake and we're saying nothing happens. We're just camp, everything's normal. So the next morning, two of my buddies and I hike Diamond Peak, and we go and we're skiing and we make it back to camp.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And there's a note on, they packed up and left. The other two guys split. They were going to fish while we speed. And we got back to camp and they'd left. And there was a note saying mosquitoes were too thick, so we left. See you back in town. But the mosquitoes weren't that bad. It was weird.
Starting point is 00:48:34 It's not like them to peel out of here, especially during the day. The bugs, there's not real buggy during the day. So we, like, oh, whatever. So we camp and nothing real nothing happens. And we get back to town the next day. And when we run into our buddies, they're like, hey, it wasn't that buggy. How can, why did you guys leave? And it took him a second, and they looked at each other funny and said,
Starting point is 00:49:00 the truth is, when we were fishing, we kept hearing noises coming out of the forest. We kept hearing sticks breaking, and we kept hearing strange grunting noises, and we played it off as a bear at first and thought nothing of it, and thought we'll just go around the other side of the lake and fish. But they said it followed them around the lake. They could hear it tasting him in the forest and was making these weird noise. at him and that's all I got from them. We said, so we got back to camp and just felt really uneasy and decide.
Starting point is 00:49:33 We'd tell you that it was too buggy and we split. We got out of there. We were scared. And that's that story. What year was that around? That was 19. Here I wrote it down, the Diamond Peak, 1987. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Interesting. There is a report on the BFRO from Diamond Peak Wilderness. area where three hunters were out there, they hear a very loud scream, 30 to 45 seconds. There are reported things from that area, at least one report that's public, but that whole area from what it sounds like is there's activity all over the place. Yeah, it is very, what's happened in the last handful of years is forest fires have ravaged some of these places. Where I'm telling you about this place on the McKinsey,
Starting point is 00:50:28 through maybe in 2020, it got, that whole valley got wiped out by forest fire. The hillside that I'm, all these things happened to me on, it's gone now, it's burnt. Oh,
Starting point is 00:50:41 wow. It's depressing. It's really sad. So, yeah, I don't know. It's coming back a little bit. There's some greenery growing,
Starting point is 00:50:49 but the big fur, I don't know how long it's going to be until the fir trees come back. There's some naples growing and things like that and some ferns that got cooked pretty good. I think that's about all they got. Oh, there's a couple other things if you want to hear about. This happened in 2017 or 2018, I think. Somewhere in there. Like I said, I lived in Idaho.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I moved to Idaho in 1989 and came back in 2012. And we moved back to central Oregon. But we still have the property on the McKinsey. I still have it today. I spend a lot of time over there. So in 2017 or 18, it was Thanksgiving, around Thanksgiving. And I was out, and this happened a couple nights in a row. It was really bizarre.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I'm out in the yard. It gets dark real early. So maybe five or six in the evening, but it's pretty, it's dark. And it's pouring down rain. It rains a lot over there. And I don't know. what I'm outside doing, using the,
Starting point is 00:51:55 going to the bathroom or something. And I hear what sounds like up, and it's, like I had said, there's a creek that runs through our property, and it drains out on this hillside across the road. And I heard what sounded like the truck brakes, screeching down,
Starting point is 00:52:14 like the, like they sound like they're wet and screeching down a road, just this weird metallic grindy sound, coming from where there was no road at all. It was just a ravine with a creek in it, and it was really loud and freaky. It was just like, what in the heck? But it sounded just like metal on metal brakes, and I heard it maybe two or three nights in a row. And on that same time, for me, maybe a day or two later, my neighbor comes over, and he's maybe a couple of hundred yards downriver from me. And he's like, man, I was in my house,
Starting point is 00:52:51 and I started hearing these owls coming from your property, like huge owls, giant owls coming from your property. So I went outside and I was listening and I could hear them. They sounded like owls, but they were huge. They sounded like owls, but they didn't sound like owls, and they were huge. So I started walking towards your property, and that sound kept going on, but it kept moving away.
Starting point is 00:53:21 the closer I'd get, the further they would move off until it sounded like they were in the forest on the east side of your house, and they just, it just vanished. The noise stopped, which again, at that time, Bigfoot, I had not ever heard a Bigfoot podcast, and I just thought that was weird. Same with the brakes-reaching thing, but now, knowing what I know because of not being listened to these podcasts, It's like, huh, you hear about owls and you hear about these weird sounds. I thought I'd add that to some of the things that are already experienced. That's probably some of the weirdest things. And this is back in 2017, you said?
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yeah, 17 or 18, I can't remember it in November. So you still own that property? Oh, yeah. I'm there all the time. Oh, okay. I'm a school teacher, so I spend my whole summer over there. Nice. anything weird sound like that
Starting point is 00:54:17 sound-wise happened lately or just the last time was back in 17 or 18 that was it yeah and then like I said in 2020 the fires put through there and took everything out but I did set up a game cam before and I wouldn't get anything I got cougars and bears and deer and turkeys
Starting point is 00:54:35 that was there but yeah it was it sounded like breaks screeching down coming down the creek bed basically when there was no road it was bizarre and then i never heard the owls but my neighbor said it freaked him out he said you could hear him over his tv a hundred yards down river from me so he's an older city guy so he didn't know what to make of it i definitely feel like there's some sort of mimicry that's involved you hear things like what you mentioned you also hear things like car doors slamming where there's no cars or rusty gates is one that's just it's very strange
Starting point is 00:55:18 yeah the rusty metal that's what it sounded like rusty metal and it's bizarre and it was it was loud it was just right across the road for me up on the phone and then there are a couple logging roads up there but this was nowhere near one of the roads it was just coming out of the forest which knows you've definitely had some really interesting things happen over your life so far and thank you so much for sharing with myself and the listeners and it's amazing you still have that property area up there anything else happens definitely feel free to reach out i will indeed yeah thank you for having me on the show i appreciate your time and i love listening to your podcast do you think you might make it down to Oakridge this summer coming up? I'll have to look at my schedule. Yeah, I'd like to. I've never been to one of these before.
Starting point is 00:56:12 My 12-year-old son is heavy into the whole Sasquatch thing, so I might bring him over and check it out, maybe camp or something. It's going to be a hop-in time. If he's in the Bigfoot, there's going to be people there that it's the time that they're in Oregon. They probably won't be there again. But, man. I know. We make it over to Cliff's Museum.
Starting point is 00:56:35 once a year, a little pilgrimage. So we'll go and get a little place in the forest and go squatching and go talk to cliff a little bit. So that's pretty fun. How cool is that, man. Yeah. Those flops I heard, and he's got that giant Sasquatch in his museum. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:54 And he's got it hooked up, some sound hooked up to him. And that's what those flips sound exactly like what he's got going on in a museum. The Sasquatch. Love it. Yeah. I got to get over there myself one day for sure. but it's cool yeah it keeps adding to it so we keep going back absolutely brad thank you so much for hanging out and i hope to maybe hear from you again someday in the future mb a jeremiah thank you so
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Starting point is 01:00:34 Maybe there's somebody else out there listening. It's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now it feels so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks? I know what I saw. I know what's out there. That's all I care about.
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