Bigfoot Society - Giants of Ancient America with Travis Roy and Surprising Bigfoot Encounters

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

In this episode, I talk to Travis Roy, the curator of the Giants of Ancient America page on Instagram. Travis is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to newspaper documentation about giants in the history of the USA. Also, Travis just happens to have some very intense Bigfoot encounters that he was willing to share with us and you'll be surprised at what he has to share!Resources:Giants of Ancient America Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giants_of_ancientamerica/To watch the Video version of the Interview with Travis head on over to Patreon and become a supporting member of Bigfoot Society:https://www.patreon.com/posts/bigfoot-society-76388114_______Join the only Facebook group for Van Meter Visitor fans - “Van Meter Visitor Believers” - See you there!https://www.facebook.com/groups/vanmetervisitorbelievers/?ref=shareFOR MORE INFO ON THE VAN METER VISITOR FESTIVAL:https://www.facebook.com/vanmetervisitorfestival/_______Join us over on Patreon! Get access to extra audio content, exclusive merch like a membership card and stickers, watch me interview guests weekly live on video, a Patron-only Discord and more.https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyPick up a Bigfoot Society shirt to rep the podcast!https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietyTune in for new episodes of Bigfoot Society!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7QFor full links go to:www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com

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All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of chatting with Mr. Travis Roy tonight all about, we're going to talk about giants. Travis is the gentleman that runs the Giants of Ancient America page on Instagram. You may have heard him on some other podcasts as well. One that comes to mind is blurry creatures. But Travis, how are you doing today, sir? I'm doing well. Thanks for asking, and it's good to be on your show.

Awesome. I'm glad to have you here. This is one of the first episodes where we're kind of going into the unknown, into the mysteries of the world. And I told listeners that this is coming up. We're not going to be talking just about cryptids so much anymore. And this is our first foray into that. So let's talk about giants, Travis.

So I want to hear first, how is it that you got involved with this giant thing? It sounds like your one of, I mean, your Instagram account is crazy. Like all the newspaper articles, like you are the man when it comes to like historical giant knowledge. How did that start out, man? Oh, okay. Well, it started out. I wasn't really looking into giants. I was looking into, I was doing some historical research on the Celtic people.

And long story short, I found out that my grandfather was Celtic. And so I started like, I've heard of that, but I didn't know what it was. So I looked into it, found out that there are people that kind of originated around the caucus mountains right north of modern day Israel. that was the land of Assyria back in the day. And so as I was studying these people groups, I began to notice that, you know, they had these massive standing stones, and you're probably aware of that all through Western Europe

and in the British Isles. France has a lot of really massive stones. Are we talking about like Stonehenge type stuff? Yes. Okay. Yeah. And so I was kind of baffling. by that. And as I started, I started looking into that more, I came across accounts of giants

among them. And I wasn't ready to find that. I wasn't looking for that. And so I ended up buying a book from Fritz Zimmerman and found out that he had been studying giants in the U.S. and after that, I was like, you know, I really want to do my own research to verify if these news articles are true. And so I started doing that and I started an account just to as a place to display them so others could see it. So everything on my site are articles that I have actually myself researched just by going to public domain, websites like chronicling America or the Library of Congress or any other, you know, websites where they have like documented newspapers. So these are all just newspapers.

And you have to do word search. So it's a lot of work to find these. It's quite fun, though, because you never know what you're going to find. Yeah. So that's kind of the, just the short version of how. got started. So basically these Celtic peoples weren't all giants, but there seemed to be giants among them as they traveled westward.

And then from the British Isles, they even went to America. And there are thousands buried in America. I'm sure not all of them have been unearthed. And of course, that's not being done anymore today. that most of them were unearthed between, you know, the mid-1800s to about, you know, the mid-1900s. And then it all kind of stopped after that. So, and this is a pretty new topic to me. And I'm guessing the listeners as well, too.

So the first question I have for you right off the bat is, you know, I'm going to my local cemetery. I'm not seeing plots where it's like, you know, 10, 12 foot long, 18 feet, whatever. So you said that they were digging up these guys. Like, where were they finding all these giants at? Okay, so a lot of them are buried in burial mounds. So these peoples had a tradition of erecting a massive mound of earth. and so they would see those and then of course in America they would do the same thing they would dig into these because they're i don't know why they were digging into them probably like thrill seekers

treasure hunter type guys and when they would find stuff then they would notify a museum or someone like that and then they would come and grab the bones or any type of artifact um that was discovered there but yeah i mean i have a right here in front of me i have a newspaper that i uh found it's a report from 1897 and this is about uh discoveries in europe so we're kind of we're kind of moving out of you know the land of israel like where a lot a lot of the giants originated sure and they started to move out of course some of them went east um i found a handful of reports in Japan. Oh, wow.

As they went eastward towards that direction. But a lot of them went west and over into America from Europe. But here's the report. It's just a real short one. It's titled, Giants Remains. The bones of tombs of more than 200 giants have been found in various parts of Europe. So it's just, that's all it said. So it's kind of interesting.

Just like, oh, here's a side note, along with all these. other reports. So that's a lot of giants. And a lot of these giants were like in Gaul, which is modern day France. And then they then they moved into Ireland. I have a report here from 1914. And it is labeled, labeled here as a man who stood 10 feet high, skeleton of a prehistoric Irish giant. Laborers digging foundations for cottages in County Louth unearthed three skeletons, apparently a prehistoric folk, one of whom must have stood about 10 feet high. The skull of the skeleton was entire and measured 18 inches from the crown to the chin,

and the leg bones and teeth bones were abnormally large. The skeletons were in separate gray. graves. So like in this case, I'm not sure if there was a mound, but they were unearthed while, you know, guys were building a foundation, it sounds like. Hmm. That is, wow, there's a ton to unpack there. So it really sounds like these guys are, are all, we're all over the world. Yeah. Yeah, they really were. I mean, I have reports from Mexico. Oh, wow. Canada. I have a report of a skeleton or a skull of a giant that was discovered in Peru.

So, yeah, they really were all over the place. But they did a lot of similar things as one another. So they might not have known, like each civilization, have known each other, obviously, because of the times. But they did a lot of similar things. Like they have megalithic cities or burial mountains. It was a custom that they used a lot. So that's the thing that kind of seems to connect them to each other is their traditions. So we're saying that, you know, I know throughout America there's all these giant burial mounds.

And I know there's a pretty big one in Ohio, right? I know there's there's, I've actually seen some in northeast Iowa. we traveled up there. So you're saying in most of these mounds, there could be giant bones. Correct. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, a lot of them. Yep. Yeah, it's pretty fascinating. Oh, wow. And it used to be okay to dig into those back in the 1800s? Yeah. I mean, back then.

Wild west. Yeah, there weren't a whole lot of rules back then. That's true. But I'm not really sure of the year, but there was some sort of a Native American repatriate act or something like that where basically, and, you know, it's probably wasn't a bad thing because in a way I'm glad that people did discover these because now we can look at the history. Right. But, you know, I also agree that it's probably not a good thing just to go digging into burial mounds. So when they had this new act that passed, it protects the native lands. Okay.

And so you can no longer just go digging legally into burial mounds. So it's good, I think. Right. That is a good thing. We want to respect the history for sure. Correct. Yeah, respect is what we should be all about. You mentioned that there would be.

museums that would show up and they would take the so are they taking the taking the bones what's the story there where are these guys disappear into okay so a lot of them would it would sometimes it would just be like their local museum um some of them would be like the carnegie museum um sometimes the smithsonian institute was mentioned but it's rarely do i ever find a follow up story. So it's kind of, it's hard to find those. It's usually just that report. And sometimes it's hard to find those, right? So like I've, I've gone back to find a report I've found before and I can't find it again. So it's kind of, once I get it, I like to put it on the page, you know, or print it off just so I have it as a hard copy too. But yeah, that's where they would go. A lot of times, I mean, I found one where the sheriff had it, you know. He had, had one of the skull. Yeah, he put the skull cap in his, uh, in his office. Oh my goodness. So you know there's got to be, you know, fragments here and there still. They've got to be around somewhere,

somebody's special box or something like that. Oh, you know, someone's going to find something out in a state sale or, or yard sale or something. Right. You know, a lot, sorry, I don't want to interrupt you. A lot of times though, too, these bones were so old when they're, when they're, when they were dug up. So when contact was made with the, with air, they would crumble. Really?

So sometimes you couldn't really, oh, wow. You couldn't really save it. You could, you could measure out on the ground, like where the skeleton was, but you couldn't really retain,

like the bones wouldn't be retained in a, in a preservable state. But that's, that's not all the time. I think that has a lot to do with how much moisture was in the ground. Okay. A lot of stuff like that. Sometimes they would crumble.

Sometimes they're, you know, more or less not petrified, but fossilized. And other times they were just perfect. So now, so we can't, we can't go to the Smithsonian today. And we can't be like, oh, let's go to the giant hall or the giant exhibit, right? Wouldn't that be cool? Yeah. I mean, to me, that would be, it would be cool, but it also is kind of odd, too, because they're, they're somewhat human.

and so like it would be weird to go to a open cemetery today and just see you know regular-sized humans but they are you know they're not just fully human they're they're they're different you know they're they're more of a oddity so i would be i could see how that would be pretty cool you know to see you know but yeah you would think that they would have something on display because obviously whenever these guys or these road graders, road workers, or sometimes they were, I found accounts where they actually were the Smithsonian out there digging into a burial mound. And they, and it's really what they dug up.

Yeah. Wow. So they were really interested in this stuff. And I wouldn't see why they wouldn't have them on display sometimes. Let's go, girls. You know what I love about Addie? Everything? Well, yeah, but it's as little as $20 bucks a month.

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back in the day. I really would like to find an account. It's probably not going to be a newspaper account and be kind of cool if I could find like maybe an old magazine of theirs or something that would be talking about this. If they ever did, I'm not sure if they ever talked about it publicly.

It's just the newspaper that would like mention they came out and gathered up the remains or whatever from, the burial site. So do you think there's some like Smithsonian warehouse somewhere where it's like all these giant bones or they just like totally trashed them or like what do you think the end game was was there with all that? I'm not sure if they would have trashed them because I mean if they spent the time and resources

to travel west to go pick these things up. I mean, if it were me, I mean, if you didn't want to talk. about it, I almost feel like you just have them in boxes somewhere. Mm-hmm. You know, with the, with the date, the location and all that. Who knows? I don't know anything about that. I'm just thinking out loud.

Yeah. Man, that's, that is absolutely, absolutely wild. Have you found, I'm sure you found historical reports over, over the years where like, you're, you're the guy that's redact. discovered the article. You've got to have found stuff like that. Oh, like them finding them and storing them somewhere? Or like, you know, a lot of cryptid researchers will find monsters or cryptids where like the cryptid would have been forgotten to history unless they were the one that found the article in their research.

Do you think you've discovered stories like that? or I'm sure I have. I'm sure I haven't. And that's why on these things, when I find them, I tag the town or I tag the state. Oh, okay.

Because I want, what I want is to like, I want to rediscover something for somebody's area. Because a lot of these, they're not necessarily my area. I found a few in Texas. They were here. But like if it's Nebraska,

I make sure I tag that. You know, because I'm hoping somebody in Nebraska sees it And I will get messages here and there from people. Or people will message me and say, hey, have you found anything in this area? And so if I haven't, I'll do my best to try to find something. And then I'll send it to them.

So yeah, I'm sure I've, I have uncovered some stuff because there was a, there was some curse by an Indian tribe, Native American tribe. I can't remember the state, but it's called the curse of yellow hair, where they went out. The Shawnee Indians basically massacred the last of these giant yellow-haired mound builders. So they're the mound builders. But they were almost like a Caucasian-looking people with yellow hair. And that was their chief.

His name was yellow hair. Oh, wow. Well, as they killed him off, yellow hair threw a curse at them. So that's kind of how the story goes. But, you know, I did find a follow-up of that story where they were damning up this river. And so Yellow Hair said, as long as this river, the waterfall makes the sound, it's making, y'all will be forever cursed. Okay. So, and I don't know if they really were cursed.

The story said so. But I did find a follow-up of this story not too long ago is where they were doing some sort of construction, to where they dammed up the river for a time. And so the waterfall stopped making its noise, right? And so they actually went out and did this, I don't know if you call it spiritual right or some sort of a ceremony to try to end the curse of yellow hair. Oh, wow.

The giant mound builder. So, I mean, I do find interesting stuff. And I try to share it out there. You know, you mentioned that, that, incident with Native Americans. I think I remember reading, wasn't there like an incident with like a Lovelock Cave in, is that in Nevada or? Yeah.

Were there some giants involved? Is that anything you're aware of the story behind that? I know a little bit about it. Basically how that went is they were red-haired giants and they were living in the Lovelock Cave there in Nevada, but they were supposedly cannibalistic. And they were really a problem for the native Paiute Indians there. And so the story goes that they wouldn't stop being cannibalistic.

So the Paiutes kind of, when they went into the giants went into the cave, they burn them. They just started a fire in front of the mouth of the cave. And so basically it sounded like it suffocated them. to death. Sure. Years later, I don't know who went in there.

Oh, they were digging out bat dung or guano. And then that's when they discovered all these remains. Now, it's kind of hard to find pictures of this stuff. But supposedly, they were pretty big guys buried in there. And the Indian lady who wrote the book, I think it's called life among the piutes. I think her last name is Winamaka or something like that. I don't know if I had butchered that.

But I think it was her grandfather still had some of the red hair of the giant on one of his. Oh, wow. Something that he had. That's wild. Yeah. So yeah, they were around. There were a lot of them around. And that's not the first time I've come across red hair.

there were there weren't giants that I came across at one time I came across a couple mummies or mummified people that were like buried in an earthquake around the same area as that and they were two children but it said they had red hair and so they could have been you know some of the descendants or the children of giants they were like mummies like you would find in Egypt yeah yeah well they were kind of mummified they still had hair on it but because maybe the desert kind of mummified them. Sure. Oh, okay, got you.

You know what I mean? Like the perfect climate, so their hair was still there. But there must have been some sort of a catastrophe in the area that maybe killed off some of these things, too. That is wild. So you're looking at all these articles. It seems like a lot of them are from like late 1800s, early 1900s, right? Yeah. So obviously we're not reading articles about giants being found today.

Like did you find that there's a period in time where like the articles suddenly stopped for some reason? Or like what's the, there's got to be a transition period there, right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't seem to find, I don't seem to find many past 1930. Weird. The odd time, I will, but it's kind of right around there that I find them. Do you think there's a reason for that? Or did everyone just got really concerned with the World Wars or, you know, like?

Yeah. I'm thinking, let's see, I did find an article the other day. Let me see what. Okay, this was dated March 16th, 19, 3rd. And this is, okay, this is an article about the Smithsonian Institute. And I thought it was strange. They're not really reporting on any giants being found. They're actually reporting on being fed up with people discovering giants.

Oh, really? That may be the answer to your question. It says, the Smithsonian Institution is fed. up on skeletons of prehistoric human giants. And the doctor can't even, the last name is not even pronounceable. The curator of anthropology makes no bones about it. So basically, Smithsonian is fed up regarding the reports of prehistoric giants being unearthed.

And that's 1934. But see, they didn't have control over the people digging these things up. See, a lot of times it was a construction worker. lots of time. Somebody digging out for their basement. I mean, these things were all over the place. And they probably got tired of people digging into burial mounds, too. And so that may, I mean, that right there kind of states one reason why we don't see it after, you know, much after the 1930s.

That's very, very interesting. But do you think, do you think people are still finding? stuff today. We're just not hearing about it. They could be. Yeah. Yeah, I would say so. I mean, if they, who knows if they're digging something on their own land or something like that.

Yeah. I mean, there's so many of them up north, like Ohio Valley area, Kentucky, Indiana, has a ton. They were all over the place. These things, these guys were building forts. There's like Fort Ancient. up in the north, massive walls. I really want to go visit a lot of these places. I've been reading up on it, and it sounds amazing.

So there's so much history here. And that's another reason I do this. I'm not really trying to rewrite history, but I'm trying to put context into our history, like the true history. I mean, like the history of the Aztecs. Who knows, you know, what,

was it like? It would be kind of cool to see what it was like when they were building these big pyramids down there and like in the Maya pyramids like who built them and what was it like there's so many Indian or native traditions of like giants being destroyed from fire above and all this stuff. Oh wow. Um, down there. And I uncovered a, uh, an account from Mexico. Uh, this is from the evening star 1925. skeletons of giants are found in Mexico. One of the most interesting of recent discoveries in Mexico is that reported by prospecting miners,

so there's some miners working in some caves here. In the district of the state of Chihuahua, according to one of the engineers who has reached Mexico City from the Sierra Madra range of mountains, where the operations are being carried on, there have been discovered several human skeletons measuring from 10 to 12 feet in length. They were all found in one cave being quite intact. The average length of the feet was from 18 to 20 inches.

An anthropological department of the Mexican government is planning to send a commission to investigate the discoveries. The investigation is expected to clear up the origin of the wonderful Indians of the state of Chihuahua. lava. The skeletons were all found in the sitting posture, shoulders bent forward, and some resting on upraised knees. So these are, they're kind of sitting, it sounds like with their knees drawn up, but in length they were 10 to 12 feet high or tall if you were to stretch them out. And their feet were 18 inches to 20 inches long. Wow. So that's Mexico. And so you hear the stories of the native saying, well, there was a race of giants that came that was here before. They built a lot of this stuff. And then they say, well, there was a race that was destroyed

by fire from above. Who knows what that means? Are they comets falling? Sometimes they have these mound builders and giants fighting each other off, you know, having battles amongst each other. Oh, wow. You would have to, I mean, you have to assume that that probably happened. or imagine that it probably happened. You have these different giants over here and they're, you know, they get in a fight. So they probably do.

Oh, yeah. If you've got like huge creatures, human giants, like they're totally going to have a fight. Yeah. It's going to happen, dude. It's going to happen.

It's going to be an epic battle. Oh, yeah. Man, that would be crazy. When I was doing a little bit of research for this, how, do you feel like the quote from Abraham Lincoln is real? I do.

That's just wild. Like did he actually say it? Is that what you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard it so many times. I know. Not from his mouth. True, true.

You know what I mean? So did he say it? I don't know. I mean, I think he did. I mean, I came across it the other day. as I was researching. So that was kind of cool to come across it myself because I'd heard it, right? I heard, well, Abraham Lincoln said this, but, you know, of course, I hadn't seen it myself.

But I did come across it in a newspaper. So for what it's worth, he did. He seemed to have said something about him. Yeah, about the giants in Niagara. Yeah. Yeah, and I thought I had it in front of me, but I have so many papers in front of me right now. It's not even funny. I try to have a lot of these accounts ready to read, but when I do that, I have so many.

It would be tough. Somewhere. Somewhere I have it. Have you ever had a person, I'm sure you have some wild DMs on that account? You probably have some wild DMs. Have you ever had anyone be like, hey, listen, but I've got a giant skull that I

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somebody's going to come out and ask me that or tell me that. I hope it does. Oh, that would be

so crazy. Yeah. yeah it would be oh here hey i've got it right here oh you got all right cool excerpt from it's a pretty long speech but i won't bore everybody with all you know his kind of rambles on about this the niagara falls but i'll just kind of jump in here at you know at the key point so in discussing niagara falls lincoln states but still there is more it calls up the indefinite past when columbus first sought this continent when christ suffered on the cross when Moses led Israel through the Red Sea, nay, even when Adam first became

from the hand of his maker, then as now, Niagara was roaring here. The eyes of that species of extinct giants whose bones fill the mounds of America have gazed on Niagara as ours do now. Contemporary with the first race of men and older than the first man, Niagara is strong and fresh today as 10,000 years ago. So it's kind of like a power punch of his speech. And obviously he was up there, you know, visiting the falls when he made that, I believe. There's a lot you can take away from that. Yeah.

You can take away. He talks about them being extinct or almost like a separate race. Right. That's wild, man. Is there any, uh, I guess that's a discussion in it in itself. So like, were the giants just really tall humans or were they something completely different? Hmm. Well, that's a good question.

A lot of, well, they did have, sometimes they were, they were wearing armor. Really? Yeah, copper armor in the States. Not all the time, but I, you know, I did find one that was like, I feel like I feel like he was around eight feet tall. So he wasn't huge. But you had to remember when they're eight feet tall, their shoulders were about four feet wide.

It's like a, it's like a sheet of plywood, you know, but, you know, thicker. Wow. Thicker than three quarters. But so these were big dudes. But they also had hieroglyphic writing sometimes. in their mounds. So they did have language. They were like men.

They had, they made things with copper. So they're very intelligent. They used mica, which I think is some sort of a, like a thin slate type material for up, I think from the north. I don't really have much of it down here,

Texas. Slates, writing tablets they would have. big stone battle axes, sometimes copper battle axes. So they were men, but their bone structure was so much bigger and thicker than ours. A lot of times their skulls would be mentioned to be an inch to an inch and a half thick. Oh, wow. So it'd be kind of hard to go into a battle with these things, with these beings.

it would be hard to win against one. It almost feels like if stuff like this gets brought up in our current culture, there's almost like you're going to get mocked for it. You know what I mean? Does it feel like sometimes you're going to get made. I don't know. It's weird. It's almost like there's this narrative where it's like, oh, yeah,

there's a narrative where it's like, oh, you talk about this, you're crazy or like what are you talking about like does it I don't know I get like this weird vibe sometimes I don't know yeah it's I wouldn't say it's much different it's probably not much different than talking about Sasquatch or something like that you talk about giants people look at you like you have four heads yeah and so you almost don't want to talk about it out in public with people because they're like they're looking at you like what You're weird. I mean, I've even had a preacher tell me, he's like, isn't there something better to study the Giants?

So, I mean, even a preacher went at me. I mean, Giants is biblical. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm going to say, because it's like, that's really weird that a preacher would be like that. It doesn't make sense because it's like, you know, if you have any knowledge about the Old Testament, I mean, dude. It's in there, you know? Yeah, there were some big ones there. That's wild. Yeah.

Do you think there's maybe some sort of like, you think there's maybe some sort of like narrative to like shut down all the, the giant stuff? I don't know. It feels like there's something trying to be hidden, but maybe that's just like a conspiracy thing. Yeah, it's hard to say. I mean, it's so.

I mean, it's not that far in the past, really. These are these articles, but it is, right? So like the mid-1900s, it's a little ways back there. And if it's just got suppressed for just a little bit, like, okay, 1930s, the Smithsonian's like, you know what? We're getting tired of going to get all these things. So we're just tired of it. Then you have, you know, you have like Darwinism coming in saying, you know, everything's started from small and came all the way up to about six foot tall.

Well, if you're going to push that in schools, well, all this stuff, you know, kind of shoots that out of the water. It's like, well, you've got to rewrite Darwin because that doesn't fit because you've got these guys over here in Mexico that were 12 feet tall. Well, that's kind of going. Well, you need to redraw that to where it goes to where they go up to 12 feet. And these are prehistoric people. a lot of times.

So what do you do with that? So there seems to be maybe a couple different reasons why there might have been pushback. But if you push back for a little bit of time, you're going to have another generation who doesn't really know anything about it. That's true. That is really true. You don't have to push. You don't have to push back for too long. All it takes is what probably just a few generations.

and then people forget about it. Right. Yeah. Unless some guy starts digging up all the articles and puts them on Instagram. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I just like blasting it out there. You know, very few people are seeing it probably. But it's just, it's fun to, and I do it on, I have a Facebook account too with the same name.

So I just put it out on both. Just spread it out there. And I hope people get it and share it because it's just like, it's just cool. I mean, people are doing their stuff every day, going grabbing coffee, going to work, you know, all day, coming back, doing the same thing the next day. It's just kind of neat to throw something out there that, like, people don't think of on a regular basis. And it's true history. And it's not anything that we learned in school and even in college, they're not teaching it. So it's like, well, where to what happened here?

Because this is real, this is real history that we haven't been taught. So I don't know. Exactly. Here's what I think. These were groups of people, and I feel like their story needs to be told, why suppress their story? Exactly. Exactly. They have a story, and everybody's proud of it. But why suppress theirs? I mean, they lived a, they lived a life. So why should we shut them down? That's kind of how I think of it. What is so important about our culture that you're trying to save, that you're willing to bulldoze over a past culture and totally try to wipe it from existence. I mean, it feels like there's something there, dude.

It's weird. That's some weird stuff, man. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Who knows really the reasons why maybe we don't want to know all the reasons why. That's true. do what they do. Were you saying earlier that, I think you mentioned like megalithic structures.

So were you saying that, well, obviously we know that there are structures around the world that are huge. Are you saying that is a potential that the giants were involved with those structures as well? I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Because you can look at just, let's just focus on. Ireland. Ireland's covered with these huge stones. Sure. Okay, they don't look

real big, but I've moved a lot of stone in my life because I like working with rocks, building rock walls around, you know, where I live and stuff. And a stone that weighs 300 pounds doesn't look that big. I mean, it's probably

about 15 inches tall, 20 inches. These are massive stones. Who's moving these things? And then I uncover articles where, oh, here's 10-foot giant in Ireland buried right here. Oh, here's a group of giants that were buried down in France, down in this cavern where they were like trying to mine out some sort of iron ore that they were using like stone tools, but they were trying to get out the iron ore and

copper and stuff or whatever. So when you, so you have a land in a region where megaliths are and some of these things are a couple stories tall in France. There's a map. massive one. And you're like, well, like if you go to National Geographic, they're going to draw you a picture of regular size people with a massive dirt hill. How do they, how do they pull it up? But then in the same region where you have all these megalithic cities, even down in Peru, megalithic huge wall cities. And then you have giants buried in the same region. So you just, it doesn't, you know.

Oh, wow. Yeah. You just know that they did it. And then you have the legends of the natives saying that these people built these cities. Really? Yeah. I mean, like I have like here Celtic, like there's Celtic writers who state that the Celts wandered westward erecting the massive megalithic stones. But see, not all Celts are giants.

I mean, you have Celtic people today. Yeah. But giants were among them as hundreds of unearthed skeletons confirmed this. fact. So they say that they moved that way and they, you know, they were almost like a pathway. They set like they left a trail of megalithic markers, way markers as they went. But you also, in all these burials and instances where people are uncovering them out of like mines and stuff like that with like stone tools still in their hands, that just kind of proves that, They are the builders of these megalithic cities that boggles historians' minds today

because they're trying to fit our size people into a puzzle of like who did this. Right. So it doesn't fit. That piece doesn't fit. That's so crazy. Yeah. I think you mentioned that they were using, of course, they would be using bigger tools. Have there been.

reports that you found where people have found huge axes or huge implements, stuff like that that are just way too big for the normal person to use? Yeah. Oh yeah.

Of course. I mean, even some of my hikes where I hike around, I've found a pretty decent size stone axe head. You found it yourself? Yeah. Really?

Yeah. Just in a riverbed. But it was, I mean, I feel like it's about 15 inches long. So it's a lot. bigger than what I would wield. And I'm a little bit over six foot. But I'm not going to grab one that size.

It's just too heavy. So if you're going to use it as a tool or a weapon, you need it to feel good with your arm. You can go to Missouri and I believe the owner of Bass Pro Shops has a, he has a really big museum called, hopefully I don't butcher it. It's a Native American museum, I believe. or a museum of native history.

Right. If you go down in the basement there, he has hundreds of stone axe heads on display. Really? All sizes. But there are so many of them that are huge. You know, seven inches, ten inches long, and they're tall. So, I mean, I would probably hold,

I would probably use one that's about maybe, I don't know, five inches. Right. You know, I mean, you don't want to have to use it with two. hands. Yeah, exactly. For three hands, but you don't have three hands. So I was like, but that's, I even when I was there visiting, I mentioned to one of the museum guys about what I did. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily? Yeah. And you feel. Uh-huh. And more. More? Huh. I didn't think we could feel like that again

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all these massive stone tools and he's like yeah but he didn't want to talk about it

really you could tell like you had to say something but he's like yeah he kind of

agreed but he didn't really he's like man I don't know if I'm I don't know

if we're supposed to be talking about this oh wow really he wasn't like the owner

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, he probably didn't want to get himself into trouble. So he just kind of thought it and said, I mean, the stone tools there speak for themselves. Some people say, well, that's just ceremonial. No, it's not, no. What's the point? Why would you make so many ceremonial tools? Yeah, what's the point?

I mean, there were accounts that I pulled up where there were stone tools or stone axe heads with these giants. So you can actually go witness them at the museum. Yeah. So they were like buried that the stone axes were buried with the giants? Yeah. Wow. Sometimes you would have metal. You would have like metal type weapons.

But most of the time it's stone. Of course, I mean, you have to think they'd be much like us. Like, well, they're not very smart if they're using stone. Well, if you drop me off in the middle somewhere, I'm going to use what I have as a resource. There's no metal. there. Yep. Probably not going to start digging a hole to go try to get some iron ore.

Right. Smelt it. I'm probably going to use a stone first. And so you have to go at history that way. You know, so many people go at it backwards. Like, oh,

well, they weren't smart. You know, I don't think that has anything to do with anything, really. It's just like they're using what they have as a resource. You mentioned at one point that there were hieroglyphics found around were those on

like on tablets or how we're yeah tablets sometimes like pieces of clay vessels okay that's my recollection and they were kind of up in the north

but they would always say anytime an article would read that it would or it would say it was an unknown hieroglyphics so it wouldn't necessarily say Egyptian or, but it was some sort of writing. Yeah.

Maybe it was. Maybe it was Egyptian. But there's so, I mean, there had been people who have just focused just on that subject of ancient, I think it's America, B.C. Or something like that. It's a book by Barry Fell. Okay. It's a good book to get, because you can look at it.

He just looks at America and there's so many different ancient. languages that were discovered in America. You have Celtic language discovered here. You have Viking language here. I believe they call it Celtabarian. So it's like Iberian slash Celtic. So it's like the mix of cultures. It was written was found in America.

So you have many cultures. You have the Phoenicians. language discovered here, ancient Hebrew discovered. Some of the stuff's found in the burial mound. So then you have to ask yourself, well, who were all these mound builders? They might have been different groups of people. And also have the thought, too. Some of them, you know, you have different size giants.

Some of them are only around seven foot, seven and a half. But then sometimes you'd have ones that are 14 feet. They could have been just different tribes of just more. mixed blood to where the bloodlines are getting, you know, the heights and sizes are getting smaller. But then sometimes the seven foot ones might be young warriors. So who knows? He might have been 15 and he was at seven foot already.

So because these were discovered so long ago, I don't even know if they had the ability to tell how old the bone structure was, or the human was when they died. Yeah, that's a really good point because it really the question is not, it's not just who are the giants buried in the mounds. It's who were the guys that were burying the giants in the mounds. Yeah. That is a whole different spin on it, man. Like, that's wild.

Yeah. Yeah, these guys here, they definitely had communities. So, and I don't know, like, the ones buried in the big mounds, like, maybe they were kings and queens, because, you know, sometimes you find women buried. And they're, you know, the ones that are women are from seven to eight feet tall, the ones that I found. But, yeah, so they had a community of peoples. So maybe it was like they, maybe giants were bearing giants. Who knows? but they had community they had the knowledge of a lot of their mounds and temple mounds they had temple worship mounds and they all kind of like the points of the mound will you know face north south east west or they'll face some sort of a summer solstice or winter solstice or you know different you know falling stars or whatnot in the seasons so they have

had they had some sort of knowledge that, you know, we don't necessarily have, you know, for such an ancient time. So you're saying that there have been temples found as well? Now, I remember, I can't remember the name of the book. It's an old book where it actually talks about like Lexington, Kentucky being built on a huge temple site. I don't know if you've ever seen. Oh, man, I can't remember that it's an old, old book, dude. It's wild. Yeah.

The guy on TikTok was talking about it. I need to get my hands on that. It sounds like. Yep. It would blow your mind, dude. And it's all online too. Like, you know how like there was that Google project where like they were, everyone was scanning old books and putting them into Google library or whatever.

It's one of those. Yeah. So I'll see if I can track it down and send it to you after this. Yeah, definitely do that. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, yeah, I believe it. Kentucky has a lot of history like that, mound builders. Oh, really?

Yeah, yeah, they were all there. So I don't doubt it. And that's a sad thing, too. Like, when the Colonials were coming in, they headed west, they would do all kinds stuff. sometimes they would use the dirt from these mounds to use it to build something. Oh, man. So it's like they didn't always have the right, they didn't always have the right mindset.

Right. So that, like that case, building it on top of something. It's like, whoa, that's okay, that's not a good way to preserve it. Yeah, unfortunately, I think at that point in history, they definitely didn't have that mindset. that they were not thinking about preserve. And this is me just kind of spouting off. But they were probably thinking more about like, how can I build a cabin real quick and survive the winter?

But it is what it is. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. You know, you can see it in all, like, that's probably one reason all these articles are here is because they didn't really have the mindset of preservation. They had exploration and survival, like you're saying. So that's, but thus you have these articles.

So it's like, well, you thank them. You kind of thank them for being that way for just a time anyway, because now you have all these resources of information that we can look at now and reimagine our history as it really is that we haven't been taught. So you kind of love them and hate them for doing that, right? Very interesting. There is, I don't. think I've asked this particularly yet.

So is there any, and this is a question that's really big to ask, do you know of any museums across, around the world where they're actually like giant bones on display? Or it's no? Not off the top of my head. Okay. I have heard of some, but I, or one, but I can't recall which one it was. and I don't believe it was even in the country. There was a museum down in Peru.

Yep. Years ago, I came across an article that said there were a couple eight-foot giants there, but I'm not even sure if they're there anymore. Because as Westerners became, you know, Westerners started going down there because, you know, you can't research up here. So they were there. And it's almost like a westernized area because of that. Oh, wow.

So these museums, I don't know why they would pull them if they did pull those two, maybe because of publicity. And who knows, if there's some sort of suppression from the West, Western cultures, then if the West is giving a lot of attention to elsewhere in the world, it might explain why, you know, they may not be on display anymore. Gotcha. Yeah. In your articles that you've read, do you ever find mention of like elongated skulls or is that something completely different? That's like totally different than the giants. But you know what I'm talking about, right? Right. Yeah. No, I do. A lot of times I don't use a word elongated. But they give a description, which is elongated. So they'll say these particular giant discovered or giant. they would say they look ape-like is what they would say. They look like ape-men. They didn't have a forehead, they said. So, like right above the eye socket, it would immediately slope back. So that gives the exact definition of elongation of a skull.

Yeah. Doesn't have a forehead like we do. It just right above the eye socket, it starts to slope back. They would say things like low and tall, intelligence. These guys seem to, not all articles, but like one article in particular said they look like ape men. They seem to have low intelligence because they didn't have a forehead. I'm like, what does that have to do?

Right. How does that mean it's low intelligence? But, yeah, I mean, U.S., Mexico, many, many times naturally, natural elongated skulls were found. Were there other features that they were saying? like that's really weird that they would use the term eight men that's just because of the skull yeah yeah because they didn't they look different oh wow they didn't necessarily have a forehead all the time so they're like well that looks like an ape so they call them eight men or they look like eight men of course they were big too like they were giants so they're like well

this isn't a normal man we'll just call them eight men gotcha gotcha so nothing like the arms were really long nothing like that You know what? That's a good one. Yeah. I don't recall anything about arm leave. Okay. Nope, I don't have any recollection of coming across an article that's, you know, kind of focused in on that.

That's a good question. Cool, cool. man there's there's been a lot to think about so far man that you could really you could really get into this stuff deep something i want to make sure that we talk about though because this came up right before we started our our chat excuse me recorded is we were talking about uh bigfoot a little bit Right. And you said you have some, you have some thought, you know, because we do talk about cryptids on this, on this podcast as well. So you say that you've had some, you said some run-ins over the years?

Yeah, I have. Oh, wow. Yeah, my first run-in was my first run-in was not a siding, but it was a growl, I got growled at two times in one incident in one incident. And I was in Virginia, hiking up in the mountains. So a friend of mine and myself were hiking up this, okay, it's like an old logging road that wasn't being used anymore. But these loggers would come in and cut a road. And so it's been like that for years.

Like nobody was using it. So we were using the logging road. And we were hiking up this mountain range where nobody lives back there. And as we're hiking up, I was following my buddy. the higher we got, I started feeling uneasy. And I started, we both, I noticed we got very quiet. So we're hiking up. And he, the road turned in a direction he didn't want to go.

And so he just stepped off of the logging trail. And we walked a few feet in the different direction off of the trail, the human trail. And we stood there for a second and there something growled at us like immediately maybe 30 feet in front of us. Oh, wow. There was like some tall laurel like bushes there. Yeah. It was August. So we couldn't see.

It wasn't the fall or wintertime. So it growled. And this thing was so deep. I mean, I can't even describe. It's like 20 men with deep voices all like. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily? Yeah.

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Yeah, it's just kind of like, whoa. And we just froze. Okay. We didn't do anything. just, it made us freeze. And then it growled again. And that, you, you could almost tell what the growl was saying.

Like, it was like saying, get out of here. Wow. Why are you still standing here? And so he, I followed him. He didn't go back to the, he didn't go back to the logging trail, go down. He walked straight down the mountain, like all through this thick stuff. And he started picking up rocks because he wasn't packing a gun. I wasn't, I didn't have one with me either.

But I was like, hey man, wait up on me. Wait up for me because he was living in a job. Right. So I would go back to that place, you know, throughout the years and hike the same region. I would get wood knocks all the time. Really? I would go out. Yeah.

I went out and I sat. Let's see. You know what I did is I took my metal detector. I had permission to medall detect up in there. You just still look for old, you know, Civil War. bullets or whatnot because it's Virginia. It's a lot of old history. And I was metal detecting and I heard there was a shed nearby and I heard something

hit the shed like a rock or something. And then I just kept beeping around. And then I heard this big boulder drop up on top of the mountain. And that was near where we got growled out like the year before. So I was like, oh, nobody lives up there. What was that boulder? It was like somebody took a massive boulder and dropped it. And so I went up there and I just sat down.

There was like this stone mound, like a stone burial mound. And I just sat there at the foot of the mound and just looking around. And then I started hearing like wood tapping to my left and then to my right. Really? Oh, wow. Yeah. And so I got brave and I just started walking towards one of the sounds. And then between me and where my vehicle was, there was something banged.

It was over a ridge, but something banged a tree like a baseball back three times. Boom, boom, boom. And so from then on, I had all kinds of experiences there. But from, you know, a light in the woods at night. Not a lot of, no vocalizations, but just like banging and a tree shaking, you know, just stuff like that, weird stuff. That's all in the same area. And you said you were seeing like spook lights.

or something like that? I saw one once at night. Okay. Yeah, just a red light. Really? Nobody's out there, though. It's like just a little ones. So it's definitely something going on there.

I did research after the growl. I was like, that couldn't have been a bear. It's too big. And then I found out black bears don't really growl. They just huff, make noise. They don't growl. So I was like, well, it's not a bear. So.

And then later, I was in Texas because I live in Texas, but I was driving at night down a, this is kind of like a country road, and I saw a figure dart across the road, like a humanoid figure, whoa, dart across the road. And these roads, you know, they're wide enough for maybe two cars,

maybe a little more. So this figure darts across the road in one second. But its head was almost at the tree line. So it's like around, it looked like around 10 to 11 feet in height. but it passed in front of my oh and the weird thing was so there was an oncoming car coming towards me and so it's silhouetted this creature so it's not and i wasn't seeing something right like lights were coming there was a car quite a ways away but it was shining at me and i had the

habit of looking at cars headlights because right i don't want them to be drunk so i'm watching the headlight a little bit because you can't tell at night but this figure ran from my right to the left. In one second, it crossed the whole road. It had a slight backward bend to it. So later in the daytime, I went and looked at that area. And there was like a really tall pipe fence in just a field. And but it must have just stepped over or jumped over the fence. Yeah. Because of its high rate of speed. And so, so I haven't been growled at in Virginia and then back in Texas had this siding, it kind of got me kind of curious about that stuff, too. You know, I'm already researching giants.

So it was just kind of. Exactly. Texas is a really weird state when it comes to Bigfoot. There's some parts of it where, and I don't know what region your part was in, but, like, I mean, Eastern Texas, crazy for Bigfoot. If you look into like the Jefferson area, do it, it gets wild. But I mean, yeah, check out

Lyle Blackburn's New Texas Bigfoot book. It's a great resource. It's all the areas of Texas too. You should check it out. I will. Did you, the Virginia one, that's really interesting to me.

Did you ever look up BFRO and see if there are reports in the same area? No, that's a good idea. I did not. You should do it. Yeah. Yeah. It, yeah, it was, it's really interesting. It was really eye-opening for me because I had never experienced anything like that before.

Wow. I mean, it was scary at first. I've heard him like, I would go out a lot after that. And I don't know. When I'm, I get, it's very. intriguing to me. And so I would go into the woods and just by myself

and just listen. And I would hear one kind of walking, like bipedal sound. I couldn't see it because it was in the summertime. But you can hear it crunch, crunch. And then I would hear him almost crawling.

Like a crawling sound. In Virginia? Yeah, like an army crawl. So it's like, it's kind of creepy. but they didn't never hurt me so I figured if they wanted to hurt me they definitely would have done that well it's weird that you would mention that

because there's many reports of Bigfoot actually being seen doing like a spider crawl yeah which is super weird I've talked to people personally and I've also read reports but dude it's some weird

stuff, man. I don't know if I'd want to see that. The weird, weird stuff. And then it was like, you know, I went looking for Bigfoot in Iowa with my bud once, Tate. And like, I captured some weird audio at 3.45 in the morning. And it was like of something unzipping my tent, dude. Oh. Yeah.

So that's, that's close. That's a thing too. Like, then I, those are, there's multiple reports of. of Bigfoot messing with tent zippers or messing with tents with people inside. And like, so that's the thing you got to watch too. I don't know if you ever go out camping in that Virginia area. No, not a lot, but I did go camping last year in November. And we went back, I went backpacking for like three days with some buddies up in the Ozark Mountains.

And that was quite, that was quite interesting to, you, have you heard of the Ohio House? Yeah, totally. Yeah, the classic audio that Matt Moneymaker captured, I want to say in 94. Yeah. So it was, the evening was setting and we'd set our tents up. We were just standing by the, we were standing by the river. And I heard something very similar to that. Like, it sounded a few miles off, like a loud, siren, like yell.

Oh, wow. The buddies I was with, they didn't seem to notice it. So I don't know if they were just like not hearing it or just didn't want to. to talk about it. But I made a note of it. And then that night was very interesting because at two in the morning, I was woken up by a loud smash within like the camp area. Really? It sounded like a cannon going off. And we were right by the river, right below a massive cliff. But it was just one single smash. I mean, it woke me up. And my heart was in my throat basically. Wow. So, and then about two hours later, there was something right in the camp,

like super loud, super loud vocal, making a woo sound like three different times. Really? Yeah, really loud. And so the next morning, some of the guys were like, did you hear that elk or did you hear that rock fall off the cliff? I'm like, yeah, that wasn't a rock because rocks, if a rock, if a rock fell, it's going to make a sliding sound and, you know, crumbling. It was one sound. So I think there was something weird going on that night in our, in and around our camp. Was that in Virginia as well? No, that was in Arkansas up in, oh, out in the middle of the Ozark Mountains. So, which, you know, when, if you blindfolded me and you set me in those Ozark Mountains, I couldn't tell you that I wasn't in Virginia. They almost looked.

the same. Really big mountains, lots of hardwoods. Wow. Is it northern Arkansas or? Yeah, because it was only a couple, it was a couple hours from Missouri. Okay. So yeah, I think it's northern Arkansas. Wow. Yeah, there's some wild stuff that goes on down there, man. I was shocked at the vocals. I'd never heard vocals like that. And then I heard a lot. Wow. Wow. Yeah. It didn't help that I was, as we were hiking throughout the day, I would take my, my walking stick and pop it on a dead log as I was going along, just making noises. Yeah, you may even, you know, calling them in. I'm not calling them in and my buddy's had some experiences of their life that night as well as me.

Man, you got to start, like, you got to get some kind of audio recorder with you, Travis, when you go out. I mean, if you're ever going to do anything like that, I would recommend. And you can pick one up for, you know, relatively cheap. But like, yeah, you just have it like just have it recording overnight, like, you know, outside your campsite. And then it takes a few weeks to go through it. But like you can capture some. And man, like, if you captured that stuff on audio. Oh, man.

It would have been so loud. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great idea. I really should look into that. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of, I don't know if you call it a hobby. It's just something.

It's kind of stuff I've stumbled into, right? I wasn't really looking for all that. I just kind of stumbled into it. When you went to the Ozarks, was it just a camping trip? Like it wasn't specifically to look for it. It was just. Oh, no. A bunch of dudes hanging out.

Right. You know, they mentioned Sasquatch, you know, because the dudes do that. Right. They're hiking along. No, we were just doing it for fun. Wow. That's awesome. And we didn't stay at one place, you know, every night.

It was like we were one place. We moved along. The sad thing for me was I really wanted to be out in the middle of nowhere. We spent like two of those nights, two of the three nights at camp sites, campgrounds, and we'd hike. This trail would go along the river. and we were hiking, we were camping at an actual campsite, but the night where I heard all the noises that in our camp,

we were in the middle of nowhere. Like we weren't at a campsite. We were like just along the river on the trail. So it was primitive. There was no, you weren't anywhere close to a camp out camping area. So that was, that's probably one reason why we might have been in like, in someone else's living room, right? Right.

so they didn't want us to be too comfortable stay too long right so yeah those are just some of the encounters i've had nothing major really but enough to like you know have me curious but yet more major than some bigfoot researchers that i know like that stuff you encountered it's pretty a substantial man oh really oh yeah totally like the one thing i learned going out with tate is that in a normal expedition nothing happens uh so like that stuff that you encountered that's not a normal man like people don't usually get to experience waking up and like uh the crazy whooping in the the middle of your camp like that's wild stuff dude Mm-hmm.

There was one time I was on a canoe trip down one of our rivers here in Texas. And I got some audio during the night. I can't remember what time it was. It was probably around two or three. It was, I would say it had to be about a mile from us. But it sounded like a thousand pound coyote or something trying to mimic a coyote. A thousand pound coyote. Yeah.

It was like it was a dog sound or as a coyote sound making some sort. But it was a, yep, it was a very, very deep voice. And then you could hear echoing off the riverbanks. And so I held my phone up because it did it long enough. It woke me up. And I just held my, you know, an iPhone up in my tent. And I got some pretty good audio of it. And I even sent it to a research dude up in Oklahoma, I think his name.

name's Troy Hudson. And he's like, yeah, that sounds like a squatch mimicking a coyote. So that was pretty in a buddy I was with then, he's like, man, he said, you hear that last night? He's like, he even mentioned, he's like, that could have been a big foot. Let's go, girls. You know what I love about Andy? Everything. Well, yeah, but it's as little as 20 bucks a month. Ooh, well, the little pink pill has always been a pretty big deal. A really big deal. I'd call that a good investment. Che-chang.

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It was very, it was real scary sounding, too. Hmm. It was kind of haunting. That would be interesting to listen to. What, uh, if you were to break Texas into, you know, north, southeast, west, what part of Texas did that happen in? Uh, North Texas. So I'm in, I'm in North Texas, but okay. There's a lot of rivers up in here.

There's lots, there's lots of, you know, Dallas, Fort Worth area. Yeah. There's still a lot of areas where there are, you know, forests and, um, regions where, and we're like this area has a forest that actually connects so if you get on a map it connects to Oklahoma it's called a cross timbers forest so it's a really large forest that goes from Texas into Oklahoma which at some point I believe it would have to touch the eastern Texas of pine trees sure so if you think about it there's plenty of areas for all these creatures to be hiding out.

Oh, yeah. So, yeah, I'm in North Texas, but there's still lots of areas where I go hiking a lot. You know, living in the city, you want to get out. Oh, sure. So I get out as much as I can and just hike. So, but end up having experiences when I'm out hiking too. So just that kind of happens.

That's cool, though, that for some reason or another, you're trying these experiences, these things to yourself. Have you ever run into or heard anything about, you know, I've heard a lot of like dog man or upright canine reports out of Texas. Have you ever heard anything like that? I've never, I've heard of them in Texas, like East Texas, but I've never come across anything personally or seen any tracks. I've seen footprints, but they were more human-like, just really big human-like footprints. Gotcha.

When I'm hiking, sometimes I'll step in one. I don't know if that makes sense. So, like, I'm hiking along and I'll step. I was like, whoa, that feels like a footprint. So I'll get back and I'll feel, and you can feel the big wide heel. And they're usually about four inches wide at the heel. And then you can kind of see where the front of it was. Well, that's 11 foot, I mean, sorry, 11 inches or, you know, 16 inches.

But now I've never seen a canine type. I have heard of that. And I honestly don't want to come across anything like that. Yeah, I've always thought that too. I'm like, you know, I'm fine with like seeing Bigfoot. That's fine. But for some reason, I would just not like to ever cross paths with some really angry looking Anubis type. upright can't like just that's just freaky stuff man it really is you probably seem like

i've gone into like if you go to loads or home depot during Halloween a lot of times yeah the last few years they've had one like a dogman type creature there yeah dude and the thing's seven foot tall and he's hunched over i'm like you know what do these people know who's making this and what do they know you know this this looks too real this this sounds like you know some people's encounters. Yeah, someone's got the inside scoop here at Home Depot and they're not telling us what they know. No, they're just trying to scare us. Oh, that's wild.

The Virginia, I keep thinking back to the Virginia thing is so wild. So was that like, is that like private property or is that like a state forest or a campground? No, it was more private property. Okay. private property that we had access to. So the owners allowed him to hike on it. My buddy. So my buddy lives in Virginia.

So I would go out and visit him. So he had access. And so I was hiking with him. And so, you know, I had access to be there. I wasn't a resident. I would just enjoy a kind of an outdoors guy anyway. I like to hike around out in nature. So yeah, no, it's just the mountains out.

It's kind of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Oh, sure, yeah. And, yeah, out in Virginia there. That's great. It's really pretty, really pretty out there and lots of places to, for them to hide. I had no idea, though. I really honestly had no idea I was going to run into anything like that. Wasn't even on my radar.

I mean, I was researching giants for years. So, and historical accounts and giants and stuff like that. I wasn't looking for that. I kind of stumbled over it. It's absolutely wild. And maybe it's, there might be something to it where you've had all these things happen because you weren't necessarily looking and you were just being like,

you know, a normal human, probably being loud, having a good time. And that's usually what brings in their curiosity. And they're like, hey, what are these,

these dudes, you know, doing a lot of guys. I know they'll go out and they'll play musical instruments or, you know, play video games or whatever. And, you know, the idea is to get the creature curious and they come in, they check it out. Sometimes that works. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah.

Travis, this has been a super fun chat. It's been very, very interesting. I feel like this is. kind of enough that people listening to this could have a lot of questions and they could really start looking into things for themselves. They could check out your Giants of Ancient America account, do the research for themselves, and get enough keywords to start looking start knowing what to look for on the internet for sure. Right.

Right. Before we go, can you just one more time, if people are like, man, I want to really get into, you know, researching like Travis's. Can you remind the listeners, like, what are the main ways that you're looking up these articles and that you recommend to do? historical research. Okay, you're right. So, yeah, just go to like, go to like a website of, say, a library, Congress or something like that. And it's real simple, really.

You just, you go to the website and you just type in keywords, maybe a giant or, you know, skeleton or burial mound. I have figured out if you put in too many keywords, it's going to bring up zero. Okay. So that's what makes the research hard, is you just have to do. one or two keywords and then you have to do lots of digging. But you can go there and you can see it for yourself by doing it that way. That's wild.

And we can just go to Giants of Ancient America. So it's Giants underscore of underscore Ancient America on Instagram and Facebook. And you can go and just look at the articles that I've posted there. and maybe you'll find one that is from your state and you can actually do research in your area. There you go. So I'm not real familiar with the areas that I'm posting about, but sometimes I'll have somebody message me and say,

hey, that's like in my town or that's in my county. And I'll say, well, that's awesome. So like, just go on those things and try to do some research in your area. Or if not, it just kind of, it lets you. know what actually happened in the past in your area, which is pretty cool. Yeah, that is really cool. Is there a specific area in the U.S. where you wish you had connections to people that could actually, like, go and research it themselves as regards to these articles that come to mind? Yeah, I mean, I would say probably Ohio and Indiana and places Michigan up there.

I mean, that seemed to be a hotbed. I would love to just hang out with lots of people up there and have access to that area. There you go. There you go. So listeners, if you're from those areas, you definitely, well, everyone needs to check this out. But especially people from those areas, check out those accounts. Right. See what you got going on.

Yeah, check your own backyard. Yeah, there you go. You never know what bones are in the backyard. So, Travis, before we go, and thanks again so much for hanging out tonight. Are there any other things that you want to make sure the listeners know about keeping up to date with what you're doing? There's primarily the Instagram and the Facebook account. Yeah, that's it. That's where I document it all is just Instagram and Facebook.

It seems to be the best way for me now. So that's where you find me. And that's where you find all the accounts, not find me. find the accounts. So yeah, that's that's the place. Instagram and Facebook, Giants of Ancient America. Fantastic. It's been a fun chat with you definitely talking about the ancient history that a lot of us probably didn't know about for America. Now listeners, you've got you've got some interesting things to look into. And we had a fun chat about a Bigfoot as well, which was a nice added addition. But thanks.

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