Bigfoot Society - Grand Junction, Colorado Bigfoot Encounters

Episode Date: January 12, 2024

In this episode, I talk to Dom about his years in the Grand Junction area of Colorado and the two Bigfoot encounters that happened to him.Note: This episode contains adult themes and if you don't want... your child to have the knowledge they would have in a high school health class then probably skip this episode.Resources: https://cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/the-unethical-and-potential-dangers-of-bigfoot-baiting/Share your Bigfoot encounter here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:53 you can do so by becoming a Patreon supporter or a YouTube channel member. Links to those are in the show notes. And Bigfoot Society, I've taken far too much of your time so far. So let's get on with the show. Hey, real quick, this is a disclaimer before this episode. As it does have adult themes in it. And as a parent, I want to make sure that if you are listening to this with your child and you don't want them to have the knowledge that they would have in high school health class,
Starting point is 00:02:33 then this is not the episode for them. Again, you make the call of yourselves, but I just want to make sure that parents were aware of what is coming up in this episode. Thank you. All right, Bigfoot Society. You got the privilege of talking to Dom. He's a lobster fisherman from Maine, and he contacted me about some really interesting things that he has experienced over the years. But how's it going today, Dom? It's going good, man.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I'm really happy to be able to share the story, and glad that everybody else does, too. So thanks for giving it a platform. in a voice. We all appreciate it. Thank you, man. Oh, absolutely. It's one of my highlights of the day is able to, after the kid goes to bed, I'm able to go into the recording studio and call up another person and get their story out there. So I appreciate you coming on from Maine. Very familiar. It's the same way for me. As soon as the kids asleep, then it's like time to listen to figure out what stories are out there, see if there's a new podcast on.
Starting point is 00:03:33 and I understand. Absolutely. Dom, you know what? I'm going to give the reins over to you, and I'm going to let you lead the way, Dom. All right, man. Thank you very much. My name is Dom.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I am from Colorado, but I live in Maine. I do a little bit of commercial logging. I also work on lobster boats. I'm always trying to be in the wilderness, but I had two experiences when I was living in Colorado, that both of them wasn't just me there. I had somebody with me both times that saw the same thing, and the way people react to it is definitely different,
Starting point is 00:04:17 but it was terrifying, and it changed the way I looked at everything. And I see a lot of similarities hearing other people's stories, but I guess I'll just start with my introduction, and big foot in general. Living in Colorado, working in the woods and playing around in the woods, people always talk about it or somebody has a story here or there. I had people that would pass by theories about what they thought these things were,
Starting point is 00:04:42 and people would say maybe there. Some interdimensional thing or something that was an experiment or didn't evolve, or I don't know myself. And I think most people go through a phase where they might be interested in those things if they live in a mountainous rural area. And I just, I knew that there was always big things in the woods. And I was always out there. I worked in, I grew up on a ranch, and we were always working with cows, working with horses,
Starting point is 00:05:09 and always in the woods and always aware there's a lot of mountain lions, a lot of bear. Maybe not a lot of bear, but there's bear. And the brown bear can be nasty. But in a place like Colorado, there's definitely the area for something big like that to live. And I was surprised. It was when I really, you know, when I lived in different parts of the state, I'd think that if I was Bigfoot, maybe I'd live way up in the mountains. But where this hat, I guess, way, there's some real wild places. But my first experience was when I was living in Grand Junction, Colorado, I used to go for drives with friends that had corvettes or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:47 We used to take 141 up towards Gateway. And it was a pretty fun canyon to drive up. And you can check out the stars because there's big canyon walls and no light pollution from anywhere. And there's always a spot that we would go check out. A friend of mine showed me that was next to the road. And it was in a field. We just hopped the fence across a little creek and we'd walk this field and it looked like a school desk. Only it was made of concrete.
Starting point is 00:06:18 It was a really strange thing. And we always contemplated on what this thing was. but it became a spot I always liked to check out. Wanted to come back. It was just a way out there, place that we could get alone. Nobody was there. And it was just a cool place to take a breath and take a walk away from society. And this time, like I said, I was living in Grand Junction,
Starting point is 00:06:40 and I had a neighbor named Joe that was a friend of mine, construction worker. And him and his wife got in a fight, so we said to go for a drive. And I said, I know a cool place to blow steam off. Let's go check out this place up to Canyon. So we went ripping up the canyon and finally got to this place. And we hopped the fence and made it through the field. And I literally said, here it is. I was about to say, here is this weird strange desk.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I was saying that's in the middle of this field. I don't know what the hell it's for, but sure is a cool spot. I was about to get those words out. And I turned around and this roar came out of nowhere. And I was walking towards this desk. and it was so dark, he couldn't really see much. And my friend was wearing flip-flops. It was just the thing he did when he got home from work,
Starting point is 00:07:32 he put flip-flops on all the time. So I could hear his flip-flops walking behind me, and this war came out, it just was, it froze me. And I could hear Joe's flip-flops running out of the field back towards the car. And the sound and the war came at the same time, and I was turning around, to look at this spot and it was right there just right in front of me. And I remember enough light
Starting point is 00:08:00 to where I could see its head and the shape of his shoulders and its traps around his neck. I could see its muscles. And just standing right next to me, like there was all the senses at that point. You could sense something was there. You could smell it. You could hear it. And the sound that it made, it sounded to me like we surprised it or it was angry that we were there because it was such like a shout beyond any range of any
Starting point is 00:08:32 vocal capabilities that I'm a metalhead and I've never heard of anything like that and I just as soon as I was making sense of everything and seeing its shape and how, because I'm just about 6'1 you know in boots
Starting point is 00:08:48 in this thing I was looking above towards it and I was looking up at it. It was a foot taller than me. Maybe that's a little much, but it was there. I was gone. And I just ran. We got to the car. We didn't say anything and we drove down the canyon and we didn't talk about it. He didn't want to talk about it or anything.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And I wanted to know more. So I obviously poked her out and asked questions. But it was so frightening to just turn around. and something just be there. I grew up around animals, being surprised by an animal, and you always can hear them or smell them or see them or something. And even most things in a field wouldn't be that surprising, a cow, or anything. But this sound was just, it was, the only thing that I've ever heard anything
Starting point is 00:09:36 that sounded like it was those Sierra sounds. And it wasn't language or anything. It's like the dutteral sounds like just an octave that we just can't get. to like it changes from some octave that humans don't have to like a shriek that we don't have and just hearing those sounds it just gives me goosebumps every time I hear it because it puts me right back in that spot and it just terrified me and him and I just was thankful that somebody else seen it with me but I never really you know I'd say something here or there but it didn't it scared us to death we had been around all kinds of animals and he had too but that was really
Starting point is 00:10:18 an intense situation. And just to think that something like that was out there, you always hope. But now I knew I didn't know what else that could be. There's hope around there, big horn sheep, and people have horses and cows. There's just nothing that could have been. Dom, do you mind if I ask you a few questions about that? Oh, yeah. Go ahead, man.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Were you able to get a good look at what the creature's face looked like? I couldn't see a, like, a profile of, like a brow ridge or anything like that beyond what have been around the forehead because of the way that I was looking at it. So I couldn't see, you know, whether it had like a big nose or small nose or a human face or it was just, there wasn't a lot of hair on it, but there was some around the face, but it really didn't have the kind of hair that I thought that it would have. I had not surprised me. It was bald on top. It was, I know it sounds probably strange to say, but the more I picture it in my mind and think about it. And I thought about it a million times. But it just, I really wish I could have because I would expect it to be, to look human, I would think. It just, there's nothing that looks like that standing in a field like that. And I can make a sound like that, I don't know. But that was something standing upright and had a very large build. I'd been around big, you know, bodybuilders. and that thing was every bit as big as some of the biggest guys I've ever known.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Anything that you remember about dimensions of the creature that seemed a little weird to you or the way it moved or anything like that? Like, I've seen it, when I turn around and seen it, I just seen it barely move a shoulder. And I would say, like when I compare him to like a bodybuilder, I had a friend that he's, like the world's largest bodybuilder. He's 6'9 and almost 300 pounds. He was wider in the shoulders than he is. And it was huge.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I would think that he would have around seven feet. My friend Aaron that I'm talking about, he was a very large guy. I would think this thing was over 300 pounds. Just the mass that it had, just seeing shoulders like that in the traps. The muscles that are go to the neck was just it was big. And you can see the muscle just when you see a horse or, a cow. I mean, they do have hair, but you can see that there's muscles, veins, and stuff. It was very, it just, it didn't, it was huge.
Starting point is 00:12:54 So try to put yourself back in that situation. Can you remember what emotions you were feeling inside when you had this actually in your sights and you were, you realized what you were looking at? I when I seen and heard it like the sound had made I felt it in me and I always say I just don't I'm not a flinch shirt but I was frozen like I could feel like vibrating in my body like it was such a it was almost like it had it was like moving air and it was like I could feel the vibration and I could feel it in my chest and it was just it was terror I was I didn't really think it was things going to kill me as much as I was just shocked that I did something was making this noise and it was standing in the middle of a field that nobody was supposed to be in and it was it was we were there and it I don't know I just kept thinking that I surprised it and I just don't know how that would have been possible I just don't from what I hear other people say about them I just it's just
Starting point is 00:14:02 I was in shock I was just frozen and it's I can just as soon as I turned around and ran I just I remember getting to the barbed by our fence crossing it, getting in my friend's eclipse and peeling out and we were gone. I went from being frozen to just being running for my life, like as fast as I could even think about it. But just, I don't know. I guess it was just really fear and shock. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:29 It reminds me, again, sorry, of the year that happened. Oh, my gosh. Let's see, year. I think that would have had been 2005 or 2005. 2006. Okay. I think I'm just, I'm trying to think about when I lived right in that area, I'd have to guess around 2005, 2006. Yeah. I was living in the western slope in Grand Junction. And yeah, it was a real, not real mountainous in that area. There is some mountains, but it's on the western slope of the continental divide. It's like it turns to desert right in the middle of
Starting point is 00:15:05 the continent right there, right in the Rockies. And I mean, you can wilderness, but it's a lot of mesas. Yeah, it definitely can be wild out there. Have you ever heard of a place called Twin Peaks Bible Camp and Grand Junction? That's so funny because Grand Junction is where I was living. It's where my family was ended up being based from. Yep. I actually would probably be familiar with where I was from, but I would not familiar with that particular one. That's crazy. Okay. So I'm just curious because there is a exciting near a Bible camp in Grand Junction as well. Really?
Starting point is 00:15:45 That's so funny. It's called just having the Twin Peaks name is cool too. So that's mysterious also. I love that show. But that's interesting. I'm going to have to look into that one and see because I always try to see wherever I've lived all over in the U.S. In any wild places, I ask people, I always ask the old people who work in the mind.
Starting point is 00:16:08 or people who work on the ocean or worked in the woods. Like, you ever see anything strange? It's important to ask people. Like, people, those stories need to be remembered for sure. But that's crazy. Absolutely. Yeah. Because this area, like, I've never really looked on a map at exactly where it was,
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Starting point is 00:18:32 question not about the doctor or Pharmaceutical, patrocinated by GSK. And it was up highway on Route 141, and I had two experiences, one on the other side of that Grand Valley in the town of Mesa. And it was years later, but it was, I'm going to have to see if there was any more on that Grand Mesa,
Starting point is 00:18:55 because it's supposedly it's the biggest flat top mountain in the world, and there's some wild places on it, too. There's always rumors about stuff on that mountain. It's huge. And it's flat, that's for sure. Before we get to the second one, another question about your encounter near the interesting stone desk. When you ran back to the car with your buddy and you sped off, was there any conversation in that car? Or was it nothing was said? We were, we did a whole lot of cursing.
Starting point is 00:19:28 We mostly got to the car. Just that was pretty much the extent. And there might have been like, I certainly had a lot. to say it. But my friend that I was with, he was just, he didn't want to talk about stuff. He just wasn't one of those guys to talk. And he was really shaken up by, like, it really terrified him and scared and he scared and he wanted to be home. And he was the older guy. I think around that time, I was, dude, I don't know, 19 or 20. My buddy, he's in mid-30s. You get in a situation like that, you look at the older person and take a little strength from them, what to
Starting point is 00:20:06 do or like what the hell was that you tell me when he just was terrified and so i just didn't push it and i told people here and there and talked with like i said i'd ask people and the people that i talked with about aliens or conspiracies and stuff that end up being true and there's always mysterious things in those four corners area of colorado talk about underground bases and all kinds of stuff and there is some very mysterious areas down there in that area real remote places and there's tribes that disappear and stuff, but I would like to know more sightings from in that area. I hear a lot of people talking about skin walkers and stuff like that in that area. And I've never heard anybody to my face tell me a story about a skin walker.
Starting point is 00:20:51 So I don't know, I do know that these things are real. As much as my son is real and my daughter and my wife and as soon as much as me talking to you, these things exist. I don't know, and how or in what form there exist in this plane. I've talked with people about what they actually thought these were and how we don't have a body or there's no evidence and whether they do bury their dead or not. I know some people really laugh this off, but one of the best conclusions that I heard somebody say
Starting point is 00:21:27 came from the same person who told me that he believed that they were brought here to mine gold. But then by who, I don't know. But then they were taken back or whatever because they couldn't problem solve as well as the people, you know, the next version or whatever. And supposedly a few of them stayed and, you know, as things evolved or whatever, they stayed around. I don't know how much I believe that. He also had told me that, you know, they might be some type of being that, you know, might exist, you know, in another dimension that we don't have access to. that some type of, you know, that some people might be, that vibrates in a frequency that some people just don't see.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Some people just don't see deer before they jump across the road or they don't see a snake before they step on it. And even people that are trained to see stuff don't see stuff sometimes. I'm not saying that accounts for things, but I just really thought about that a lot when I heard people talk about what dimensions actually are and how many, exist. It makes me think that there might be other things that exist in other dimensions that we might consider monsters or not or demons or angels or who knows. But I don't know why there's not more people coming out and saying how they actually feel or what's that they've had these experiences because I don't know. I've never really heard a lot of people say that. I thought to myself yesterday when I was thinking about if I was going to say something or not, I'm going to say something because maybe
Starting point is 00:23:04 that is. I know that people always draw that some UFO big foot connection that sometimes that they see them in the lights in the same spot that they see bigfits. And there's definitely places that are like big energy vortexes and stuff like that. So I could see something like that. I don't know. I'm sure that you've heard all kinds of different theories about it. But I always thought that was strange but it never kept me from wanting to say something about it because i always knew that somebody was going to say oh man dom's crazy he's just one of those guys he's just of course he saw bigfoot i never said anything about seeing bigfoot till i did you know what i mean i don't make up so the cool thing about bigfoot is that and a lot of people don't like this but there is no
Starting point is 00:23:51 proven truth about the creature yet because we have in the fact that we don't know if it's interdimensional. We don't know if it's an ape or anything because it hasn't been captured and it hasn't been studied. So if someone says to you, I know 100% this is the thing. No, you don't because it hasn't been captured and studied. Now, you may, like myself personally, I agree with NAWAC where I think we're looking at undiscovered grade eight. But like then you hear the Chestnut Ridge, Stan Gordon side of things, and you have these UFO sightings, and then Bigfoot sightings along right along with them. There's all sorts of stuff when it comes to Bigfoot out there in the world for sure. But there's definitely, definitely think that the people who
Starting point is 00:24:42 see things in the sky and people see things in the woods are the same type of person. They usually, hopefully they'll say something about it. But their stories like those are really, I think that it's not like something like that would be so far-fetched. I really, in that part of Colorado, there's always been, like I said, this talks about there being some kind of base, and people are always seeing the same types of crafts in the sky. And we literally would talk about if we thought that they were government or not. I never saw any.
Starting point is 00:25:16 But I don't know. I've heard guys telling stories that I knew that everything that they said was bullshit. And this kid, he looked us in the face. And the only time I ever seen us, this dude be honest, he said that they're going down the highway near the four corners. And there's a big black V flying right down the power lines, just going right down it real slow. And everybody was stopping, looking at it, trying to take pictures and stuff. And I made him say something. And I think that's good.
Starting point is 00:25:46 But in that area, there's a lot of strange stuff. And I always hope living out here in Maine now that I'm going to hear some. really cool ocean stories or something. But as much as I worked out there, I've seen some great white sharks, but nothing cool. There's no big foot out there. Nice, nice. Hey, you never know.
Starting point is 00:26:02 So you had your awesome sighting in Grand Junction area. So how long after did you have your, you had a sighting in, you said, Mesa. Yeah, and Mesa, there's a, in the Grand Valley, that Mesa is like, you know, it's the biggest mountain out there. You can't miss it. It's big and flat. and it's got a powder horn ski resort up there it's got all kinds of lakes and all kinds of wilderness
Starting point is 00:26:28 it's a beautiful place and i'd have to say this is probably around let's see i think around 2009 2010 maybe 2011 i really wish i would have tried to narrow down the the years better i'm sorry i just geez time flies but yeah up there on that mesa there's a house that i rented and it was in the town of Mesa. And there are a lot of wild spots up there. I had some good friends that were awesome skiers and snowboarders, and they were always going up in these awesome, real wild places. And it was really interesting place to be.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And I really was psyched to find a place to rent up there. It's just really far from town. So I was at the end of this real long driveway, and there's a corral with nothing that was ever in it. And it's just a real quiet place. Up there, big mountain in the desert, nothing in the sky. You always see the stars, a real beautiful place, and I really enjoyed living up there.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's just really far. I was up there, and this girl I was seeing, we just started renting this place. Every night we'd get home, we'd be exhausted, so he finally got home at a decent time, and I decided we were going to have a drink and go sit on the top of the truck and look at the stars and having some drinks and looking at the stars and all that. To tell you, I've been trying to think about how I was going to tell this story, but We're about to talk about some sex for a second. So me and this girl, we had some sex up on top of the suburban that I had
Starting point is 00:28:02 and out there just looking at the stars. And this girl I was with, she was on her period. And I don't know if it had anything to do with it, but we started hearing and breathing right next to us. And there's no animals in the crowd, which is towards where we were. and we loved it and there's standing right over there by us
Starting point is 00:28:25 it was like to say it was probably it felt like it was right close to us but we saw the whole damn profile of it and it wasn't just me that saw it so I was thankful for that but we were terrified and
Starting point is 00:28:38 it didn't make any noise or anything we jumped down real quick got right in the truck and drove right down our driveway and we were really freaked out that we just went from not really paying attention to anything to having something potentially stalk us. It really terrified us.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And our house was right there not real far from it, 500 feet away. We got inside and we turned off all the lights and we closed the blinds. And we hadn't got any good blinds for the place. And they were these little white, you pretty much see through them. And we were terrified that it was just going to walk up the driveway. We didn't look at what it did. did or if it stayed there. But it was just standing there with one arm cocked and it had cocked and that was that. And we seen it at the same time and she screamed and we got right down and drove the
Starting point is 00:29:38 500 feet down the driveway. What good that would do, I don't know. But we were terrified. Locking the door, we thought they wanted to come in or would want to because it saw where we went. And it really was very strange. It's a very strange story to try to tell people about your personal life. We're about someone you were with, too. But at that time, because I just, I really didn't think about what it was or wasn't. We were shocked that something was right there. I didn't really, ever since I had that experience, I knew the damn things existed, but it really scared us. and would kind of, me and her, the thing that we thought was that because maybe she was menstruating, then maybe it smelled it.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Like I said, I'm trying to figure out how I was going to put it all this, but I just figured I'd just say it how it was. And the only thing, like maybe smell this and walked up or something, I don't know, but it terrified her and it terrified me. But we talked about that a lot, and we talked about that even with her family. And I mean, we didn't really, you know, the fact that it wasn't a man was, you know, if it was just some pervert just standing there watching people, that would be, obviously you'd be enraged and want to protect whoever you're with and get out of any dangerous situations. But she clearly, I could see as she looked like she was looking at a monster, you know. And I mean, she kind of, you know, me and her dad had kind of talked about Bigfoot before.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It's just like I kind of saw, you know, someone's face being like terrified and shocked and terrified real fast. It just sheer terror. What do you do? Because it's, you know, at that point I'd already talked about with people if they were interdimensional, even wanted to come in the house, closing the blinds and locking the door and laying on the floor so they can't look in the blinds isn't going to do any good. And I just know that's just a ludicrous story. I know so many people are going to make fun of me for that. But I really, I don't know what part that I had to play in it,
Starting point is 00:31:48 but it made sense to me almost. Like I said, when I had that experience towards up in that canyon, I wish I could have seen a face or something, because something like that, it just doesn't look at things in sea faces in them, just in trees or in leaves or in rock, something that is standing upright that's not dragging its arms on the ground and not slouched over, you expect to look like a human. And I really would have liked to have seen it,
Starting point is 00:32:16 but it's just panicking about what way anything and anybody's going to run is, I don't know. I wish I would have paid attention more about where it went because we have someone freaking out so bad that just trying to get the doors unlocked and them in and then back out and then in the house is difficult enough trying to figure out where something like that wants to be. It's just going to be. But I was really, I was shocked about that too.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And I feel like they just appeared in spots in my life. And I think that's weird. I don't know if that's just what they feel like they do for other people. But like I said, I felt like I walked up and stepped on one's heel pretty much. And it was like pissed off or surprised that I did it. And that other one is just popped up. And hearing the breath, being around big animals like cows and horses, you hear something that has big lungs taking big breasts,
Starting point is 00:33:08 like the mucus in their lungs or just whatever. You hear them breathing through their nose or their mouth and just some of real big lungs. There was never any cows or horses in that corral or even any fields near it since I'd started renting that place. And it was just something you hear like that right away. It just snaps you right out of whatever you're doing and you look right towards what's the sound is. And I didn't see a color anything, but that didn't have anything that, like I said, the canyon like that one
Starting point is 00:33:41 was bald on top but this one you could see had hair on it it was definitely at the shape of a large hairy man standing
Starting point is 00:33:48 there and I would have to say like dimension wise that one that one is probably I mean looking at my son's play set
Starting point is 00:33:56 out there in the back stand about eight foot tall I don't think that it would have been that tall I think it was probably
Starting point is 00:34:03 a little shorter than that it was big I mean something that tall I mean, it's definitely, it's a big animal or whatever it is, but something like that. I mean, it, when you're hearing them breathe or I hear people, you know, telling stories about
Starting point is 00:34:17 looking them in the eye or seeing steam coming off of them and looking at the hairs on their skin and seeing like the skin and the hair. Like I'm like, I like hearing people say that because when you're looking at something like people have big foot cutouts in their yards all over. You're in Maine, they do in Colorado. But when you're looking at something that's an animal or that's alive that's consciously looking back at you. You notice when a bird is looking at you. You're like, hey, what's a bird? Squirrel's looking at you.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Bigger animals, same thing. But something like that, consciously looking at you is terrifying. Because usually, man, the woman in the woods, for the most part, you're not going to have too much trouble with something. But I just felt like both times, just like my space, all of a sudden, there was something right in the space that exists around you. feet can feel something is there. And I could definitely say
Starting point is 00:35:10 it wasn't the only person that felt that either time. And like I said, I pester people about this all the time and I think a lot of my friends, when there trips to the woods, they're drinking and shit like that. And I just, I wonder how much stuff actually goes on in the woods that people don't even get to see because
Starting point is 00:35:26 I take advantage of any time I'm out there now, just in case. I don't know if it works like that. But these times, I definitely wasn't looking for anything like that. I'll be honest, it's not the first time that it has come up on the show. Think of one and I had to take it out. Yeah, just because of the person who was telling the story requested I take it out.
Starting point is 00:35:51 But you're not the first person that has brought up something similar. I always wondered that if it's something that because what this looked like to me was, if they were going to procreate or something, they would probably do it like us, like just another. animal seeing another animal. Wellness, longevity, health as a lifestyle. Every week, a new trend explodes across the media landscape. And depending on who's talking, it's either a miracle breakthrough or just expensive hype dressed up as science. Enter Kara Swisher. She's here to cut through the noise with her signature edge, sharp, skeptical, and allergic to nonsense. Don't miss the CNN original series Kara Swisher wants to live forever, an essential, smart.
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Starting point is 00:38:14 way difficult. Talked over your doctor or pharmaceutical, patrocinoed for GSC. Doing that, I just don't, I think that they would be interested in it or wondering why
Starting point is 00:38:25 they look like them or I don't know. I just, I was always interested that if there was more people that had that experience because, it just makes sense to me too.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And there's been stories of people getting drug off and all kinds of stuff. I don't think anything like that. I just think that when different species of animals, maybe they see or hear and think, oh, they're like us too. Or I don't know. Who knows? I'm glad to hear the other people are at least saying it because that's just how you have to do it. Some of it's going to sound stupid.
Starting point is 00:39:00 And as you're saying it to someone, and you're going to be like, oh, damn, oh, damn. I can just sound so stupid right now. Definitely not because there's an online blog. It's a cryptozoology blog called Cryptomundo.com, like Craig Woolheater. And he's got an article where he even talks about this and I'll link the article, but there's been at least one BFRO citing report where administration was involved. It then goes on to talking about how that can attract grizzly bears.
Starting point is 00:39:36 People have been, unfortunately, killed by grizzly bears that were in the middle of menstruation. And then it kind of ties back into, you were wondering, like, if that kind of thing can attract. Well, I always wonder when you hear David Pilates has such, he has so much good information on people like telling real stories. I think he's such a good example of people. someone that's going out and getting the stories and leaving them to do their own work by just telling the story. And a lot of these people are having experiences. Like some of them, they're not saying what they're seeing.
Starting point is 00:40:10 They're not looking at it. And I always thought, I always wondered, are we going the wrong way when we think that? You know what I mean? I know that sounds so vague, but maybe they're not as much ape or human at all. Maybe, I don't know. I always wonder because people are like, oh, they're just eight men out in the woods and stuff. And I mean, you know, I've been to zoos and seen monkeys and chimpanzees and stuff like that. I have a question about your partner during the second encounter.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Did she believe in Bigfoot before? Oh, yeah. The funny thing about me and her dad, we had so many talks about he was really big into Bigfoot and stuff. He was always talking about books that he was reading and new angles on the Patterson Gimlin film and stories from here, the skunk ape stories and stuff. And he was always giving me his opinion and what he thought things were. And she was always part of that by default, by osmosis, by him just wanting to learn about it. And she spent, in all due respect, more time in the woods than I ever have. And I, she just was one of those people, her family.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They grew up just being in the woods and around animals all the time. And I knew that everyone thought that, like, we were all crazy for having this talk. But the funny thing about you asking about this is that we never felt strange for going up to her dad and saying, guess what? And guess what happened us? It wasn't like that. We were, I was like, we just saw one. He always was always looking in the woods for stuff, and he's never had any experiences really that I knew of, but he always felt like he was on the trail of it somewhere and always collecting stories as he could find him and stuff. But we were excited to tell him because he just always believed in it and stuff like that, too.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He had guys that he worked with breaking horses and doing many other things that had had experiences in the woods that he said that a percent. like he knew that it existed it was just something that I think that there is a lot more people that consider it something that lives and breathes and exists that we know of and that's I think that's works out to our favor and I think that more people are becoming open to saying like stories that have became like a family story something that happened to grandpa they don't want people things like that or dad didn't want to say anything about this during the war or something. You get these guys coming back from places like Vietnam having,
Starting point is 00:42:53 like with the rock ape story, having fights with these giant rock apes and stuff. Like we're always trying to, you know, hear cool stories about stuff like that. But no, we were very hip to, you know, learning about Bigfoot or UFOs
Starting point is 00:43:09 or trying to get the information at least because all you can do is get the information and kind of sort through. So, like, the conversation with her, father, that, that turned out okay. That didn't go sideways or anything. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Are you in the least bit surprised? As tough as they were, or I shouldn't say, were, are like, and the kind of terrain that they'd been through on horseback and the stuff that they'd put me through in the woods for fun with them on horseback, I know how tough they are. Like, it didn't surprise him or freak him out or anything like that. we knew what everybody could handle. They were very tough people and really good with animals. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I guess I can understand. Like with some people being like, oh, would you be freaked out to say something? I was psyched because something you could actually say, look, I've got something to say, this is awesome. This has some weights.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I know you've got stories, but guess what? And guess who is with me? Just to have somebody corroborate and a lot of times things happen. And obviously nobody ever has a camera. conveniently or whatever. However, that always works. It's just the roll of the dice. It makes all kinds of times on the boat. I can't get my phone out to take a picture of a big ass lobster or a shark or something because my hands are wet. It just works like that sometimes.
Starting point is 00:44:32 That is one of the most interesting stories. And after, let's say, there's that night you left. Did you go back the next day to look around the area to see if you could find any evidence or anything I thought? No, I didn't. After that, I kind of joked about going up to that spot with myself. Maybe I should just go for a drive up there and just take a look. And I'd gone up that way a little bit for a couple jobs I was doing. And I could never really, I could never really find it in myself for a reason to want to go back out there. Not because I felt like there was going to be something waiting for me or that I'd even get any resolve from it. Because, I mean, it was in the middle of a field at this weird, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:21 at this weird concrete desk that's if they literally made a child's desk for, like, middle school out of concrete, it was the most absurdly weird thing. It was like a modern art piece, like from like someplace in Seattle or something. It was just obnoxiously weird. And it's just, I just never, I knew that if I went back and tried to find some answers, there wouldn't be there because that's just how. it would have worked, I knew that it was just going to be gone like anywhere else. And that place that I lived up in the town of Mesa, I just had to live there.
Starting point is 00:45:56 It was just part of living there. I just always was sketched out about being there. And we didn't live there for long, and I didn't, it was a long commute. So I was able to get out of that pretty quickly. But it always left just a weird feeling about just being around there. There was just something like that. You just don't feel like you have, like you, something like that can overpower you and just, it takes you down a notch knowing that something like that is round and close. It's not like being in bear country or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:46:33 It's something that's conscious on a different level than something that, you know, like a bear. This can problem solve apparently. and just really it just left a weird just i hate to say like a weird dark energy because it wasn't that it was more just being freaked out about feeling like all of a sudden this place way up in the mountains i thought was a nice little secluded little cabin nice little place to rent with a nice little cobbid you know have a little corral just in case you know you get a horse or something and it just put it like a stain on it where just like i really felt like it wasn't safe in the place that you wanted to have a home at so So I just was ready to go. I spend enough time in the woods and stuff where it's like even if you wanted to go back to some of these spots, I feel like you just got to do it by chance to be lucky. I felt like if I ever looked at it like I wanted to see something or find something, I just, it wouldn't work that way. That's if I buy the lottery ticket. Guaranteed, going to lose.
Starting point is 00:47:35 It doesn't work that way for me. So it has to on the fly and just has to come to me in some weird way. And I was really hoping that now that I'm out here in Maine, like, I could start talking with some people about any experiences that they'd have. And hearing that story from the guy who cuts wood up north of here, like, that was really encouraging to hear. That's what made me decide I've got at least send an email in and at least say something because that's somebody I could literally probably, I bet you I cut trees with people that know who that is. you know i bet you i can figure out who it is and and probably sit down and talk with them if they wanted to you know what i mean and that makes me feel good to know that people that are having real experiences like that and like i said i'm only you know i'm just a guy on a pot who's talking to
Starting point is 00:48:27 you on a podcast about a story that i've had like it's only as real as it is to us you know to our mind and how we accept it and you know i feel like you know that story right right there knowing that I could literally, probably if I wanted to, you know, if they were accepting of it, sit down and talk about it. I'm like, I want to, you know, that made me want to make sure that more people could feel that way. Like more people were going to start saying these experiences that, I mean, you know, that story in particular, I mean, I know all about that wild that country is. And I've always joke about wanting to go up there and cut wood, but I don't know if I'm in enough.
Starting point is 00:49:09 There's some tough country up there, too. Maine is a lot more wild than people think it is. That's for sure. Maine is crazy, but it's awesome. I would feel that if you keep asking up there, you're going to run into some stories, no doubt. Oh, I've heard people talk about seeing big cats in the state. Like, I used to fish off a boat in Addison.
Starting point is 00:49:33 We call this down east Maine where I'm at now. And like I live in Down East Main and I work on Mount Desert Island. And I used to fish farther from here, what they call down east towards Addison, Long Drive. And I was going to the boat one morning. We've seen just a big giant cat out here. And they never seen big mountain lions out here. And I'm like, geez, if I was a mountain lion, Maine, all the granite. Oh, man, this would be a great place.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I'd be here. It was pretty cold, though. I don't know. Did you never come up to Maine at all? Yeah, definitely. So I grew up in Western Massachusetts in a town called Northfield. So we would vacation. We would, we've done the whole kind of bunk port thing, Camden, Catery. We've also gone hiking up near not actual Katahdin, but like the base of Katadn. Oh, nice. Run in with a moose and his family there when I was about 11 or 12 in my first.
Starting point is 00:50:34 family. That's another story. But yeah, that whole main area is wild and especially when you get up, you go north up by the Canadian border. It gets crazy up there. But there are some really interesting Bigfoot things that come up in Maine. There's this one story you should look up. I believe it's called the Medi Bemp's Howler. That's a fun one to look up. There's not a lot about it. But, I think I actually that I'm not on someone's channel you know because I on YouTube
Starting point is 00:51:06 like Bob Gimlin there's a he's a great one you know the Sasquatch Les Stroud like I love less like his work and I think he's very credible respectful man I think he goes about it very professionally very respectfully
Starting point is 00:51:20 he is definitely I think that his experience in Alaska like I thought that was really you'd figure that People have spent their lives in all kinds of jungles and countries would come back with all kinds of stories. Sometimes it just doesn't happen like that's when you're literally not paying attention or something. Yeah, he's got, but there is some good information out there. One of those guys and one of those channels had saw, you called it, it was the Medi Bepps Howler, right?
Starting point is 00:51:46 Medi Bemp's Howler. I want to say it might have been on. There's an old site called Bigfoot Encounters.com. You would love it. You should check it out. Oh, hell, yeah. Yeah, it's got some really great. old stories and accounts, old researcher, Bobby Short, who's unfortunately not with us anymore,
Starting point is 00:52:04 but Bigfoot Encounters.com is great to check out. Oh, I'm going to have that out. Thank you for letting me now. Yeah. I let there's always like the Rocky Mountain Bigfoot organization, one of the first places. When I was younger and this happened that I like started trying to put my story in. And in all fairness, like only in the past couple years have I even decided to actually probably in the past eight years I decided to actually get a smartphone, like never wanted a computer,
Starting point is 00:52:32 never wanted email addresses or any of that stuff. And so like now I'm actually like trying to find a lot of this information, actually finding some good stuff and wouldn't have found you or any of that stuff any other way. And I'm glad that there is such a good easy route to do that. Like I said, once again, the platform, it's great to have it, dude. Thank you so much. Absolutely. Tom, I'm so glad you reached out to me and we were able to chat for a little bit about your encounters. And I hope that you keep in touch and if you ever run into anything up in Maine, definitely let me know or if you ever get back to Colorado and anything out from there, definitely that as well. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered
Starting point is 00:53:19 Bigfoot to share their encounter environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain. Please send me an email at bigfoot society at gmail.com. Then we can start the conversation. I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been 20 years, and it's time that you get this off your chest,
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