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Episode Date: September 2, 2026

At six years old, Lynn Gaspaire says he came face-to-face with a Sasquatch while picking blackberries at Ocean Shores, Washington—and even held its hand.That 1959 encounter began a lifetime of extra...ordinary experiences.Lynn shares his memories of a pregnant female near Mt. Adams, a massive 9-foot male throwing rocks near Killen Creek, and an incredible 1972 encounter at Lake Cushman where he found himself just feet away from a family of Sasquatches.He describes their faces, hands, teeth, vocalizations, movements, feeding behavior, family dynamics, and the moments of apparent communication that stayed with him for decades.These are some of the closest and most detailed Sasquatch encounters ever shared on Bigfoot Society.Originally aired as Bigfoot Society Episode 550 on October 7, 2024, this conversation with Lynn Gaspaire is one you need to hear from beginning to end.🎧 Listen now and decide for yourself what Lynn encountered in the forests of Washington.Resources: Sasquatch: Face to Face by Thom Cantrall (https://amzn.to/3ZKdkhF) Amazon affiliate link📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here:https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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Starting point is 00:00:52 See Draftkings.com slash sportsbook for details. Please play responsibly. Number one sports book for live betting based on available live market data. You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever.
Starting point is 00:01:30 So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey, please go to the Caring Bridge link in the show notes. Thank you. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Lynn Gaspair today. He's an individual that I found from the great book, Sasquatch Face to Face by Tom Cantrell. lots of great stories in there.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And thankfully, he was like, yes, I'll definitely come on. We can chat about what I've experienced. So, Lynn, it's great to have you on the show today. Well, thank you for inviting me to be on the show. And it's all part of my research to help people understand big understanding. I am in the book, Sasquatch, face-to-face. I did write chapter nine. Absolutely. We were having quite the conversation before we started recording. We were talking about, you know, you're involved with all sorts of stuff. You talk to a lot of really cool people. And it's everyone from, I mean, well, do you mind me saying who, what kind of people you talk to?
Starting point is 00:02:51 That's fine. All right. You talk to everyone from Dr. Meldrum to Bob Gimlin. And you just have some really interesting conversations with some really interesting. people. And yeah, I'm excited to talk to you. So Lynn, take me back right to where this started for you, back to, it sounds like age six. All right. This is a true story. It happened in 1959 at Ocean Shores, Washington, which is a vacation area where people go to dig clams. And the families put there and digging clams, got their limits and came back to the duplex to clean clams and being the littlest guy there, I got to go outside out back. And I was looking for something to do. And behind the duplex was his big blackberry patch running from right to left. It was about 20 foot long and about 7, 8 foot high. And it was just loaded with blackberries. So being a
Starting point is 00:03:56 six-year-old who liked blackberries. I decided I was going to pick blackberries. And by the shed behind the duplex, there was three, one-gallon white plastic buckets that got them when I went over to the blackberries bushes. And I started picking the low-hanging clusters of blackberries. And while I was picking the blackberries, I would ever know, and then hear like something pull on a vine, or I'd see a vine. vine snatch, move, and a hair like a sucking like, like somebody was slurping berries or something
Starting point is 00:04:34 off the vine. And I would look around and I didn't see anybody or anything. So I went back to picking the blackberries and filling the buckets. And there'd be a pull on the bush or a vine would push and some breaking. And I'd hear that sucking sound. And I'd look again, nothing. So I'd, I'd, decided to work higher on the patch so i went over to the shed which was about 10 feet away from the patch and i got this old-fashioned wooden step ladder and i came over and i put it up next to the the blackberry patch i had about a bucket and a half of berries left to do and as i started picking the berries i'd climb up the step ladder and there'd be the pull on the bush again and the noise and I'd look and I'd see nothing
Starting point is 00:05:28 and I got about halfway up and as I'm picking black berries right up in front of me comes this black hand it's the right hand it's covered with hair clear down to the fingernails it's got fingernails
Starting point is 00:05:43 and has an opposing thumb it looks like a human hand but only bigger and it's covered with fine black hair it pulls berries over to the side and I'm not up high enough where I can look over
Starting point is 00:05:56 over the patch yet. And so I look at this and I'm going, what was that? Is that a person or something? And so I picked some more and I reach over to pull a cluster to me and this hand comes up again. It's a right hand. It's covered with hair from the fingernails,
Starting point is 00:06:13 clear down the wrist and the portion of the arm that I can see. And this hair is fine black hair. It's about an inch or so long. And it pulls the berries over. And I'm picking berries. and I keep thinking to myself, is this some person or something? Because I've seen the hand look like a human hand only bigger.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So I'm back to picking the berries, and the hand comes up again, and it gets a hold of a cluster of berries right next to me. So I reach over with my left hand, and I touched the index finger and the forefinger on the right hand, and it pulls back. And I go, oh, that's interesting. resting. And so I go to start picking and the hand comes back real slow. And so I reach over and I again, the hair is soft and the hand doesn't pull the way. It stays there for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And then we go back to picking the berries. And I reach up to my left to get a higher cluster of berries. up comes the right arm and it's covered from hair as far as I can see top and bottom. It grabs the combine and it cuts a berry. It pulls it down and I go, aha, that's the motion and the sound that I was hearing. Whatever this is on the other side of the bush is doing it. And so I pick more berries and I reach up to get cuts of berries, which is almost the area with a hand. The hand comes up, and this time, it touches my hand,
Starting point is 00:07:55 its fingers are across my index finger and forefinger. I'm my left hand, and it pulls the berries down to a board be bought in front of me, and I'm just looking at this like, what is this? So I pick some berries off with my right hand. It pulls them over. Meanwhile, the left arm comes up on the other side of the bush and pulls down, more berries. This is what we're doing. So we keep doing this. And I'm picking berries and they come up a couple more higher. I fill up the second by them working on the third bucket. Well, now I'm up
Starting point is 00:08:32 where I'm about the third, uh, fourth rung on the ladder, I can see over it. And as I'm picking berries, the hand comes up and gets a hold of some berries right straight in front of me. And I take my right hand and I just put it down right on the on the hand and uh it doesn't move back it pulls it back and I reach over to get another club of berries with my with my right hand up comes the left arm it's covered from the hair from hand to shoulder and top and bottom the hair between an inch to two inches long black the skin on the bottom on the bottom of the hand is light or colored. The nails are dark, human-looking nails, opposing thumb.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And it gets a hold of my hand as it comes down. And so we're doing this back and forth. So I finally get up next to the top rung, and I reach up to get a higher cup. Up comes the arm again, and it pulls it down. It stops almost right in front of my face. I pick some berries. It ticks some berries.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And I hear the slurping noise again. so I go, hmm. So this time I come up and I'm getting ready to do it and I just, for some reason, I heard like a noise, like a grunt or something, and I look down, down to my left on the opposite side of the bush and maybe 18 inches, 20, 14th, 20, there's the face. It has a tan-colored forehead that slopes back. The head on top is covered with black hair. It's wider at the back than it is at the front.
Starting point is 00:10:19 It goes up, but it doesn't have a sagittal crest. I can see ears that are about twice the size of an average human. The ears are black colored with fine, maybe quarter inch long hair on it. And I look right into the face. It has brown eyes, black pupils. There's whites in the eye. It has a flat, nubian-style nose. with almond-shaped nostrils.
Starting point is 00:10:49 The skin is a dark tan color. It's got like a full beard, an inch long hair on its face. It has longer, the distance between the bottom of the nose and the lip is longer than a average adult. And it has no visible neck and I'm looking down. It has no clothes on. as far as I can see down, it is covered in the hair. And I'm looking at this and I'm trying to, as a six-year-old, figure out what this is. My first thought was as an Afro-American kid.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Why would an Afro-American child or teenager be out picking blackberries nude, all hair coverage? So I know it wasn't that. And it didn't have a snout. it had a face it had a nose chin ears no visible neck all covered in black hair so i'm looking at it and being a six-year-old i'm curious i'm not afraid of it and i sit i speak to it and i say are you picking blackberries too the biggest and the juiciest ones and the sweetest ones are up high It kind of ticks its head at me. And as I reach up to get some blackberries, it reaches up, it takes a hold of vine, and my hand, it brings it down in front of it.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It puts it towards me, and I take some. It takes some, and I'm looking at this, and I talk to it again, and I go, can you hear me? Can you talk? Because I'm trying to be its friend. I'm trying to make friends with it. It doesn't answer anything. And I started to feel just super sad because it doesn't talk. And I just for some reason reached up and I touched my right ear with my right pointing finger.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I go, can you hear? It reaches up with its left hand and it touches its left ear. and I'm going, is it mimicking me? I'm thinking this to myself, or is it telling me that it can hear? And I go up and I touch my ear again, can you hear me? It does the exact same thing back. So I'm thinking of a six-year-old, it can hear me. Then I felt super sad.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And I'm looking at it in this face and I say, how sad. You can hear, but you can't talk because I thought it couldn't speak. It kind of grunts and it looks at me. And just being a six-year-old right from the heart, I say, you need a friend. Can I be your friend? I just ask it to be a friend. It takes with its left hand, it gets the whole of a cluster of blackberries,
Starting point is 00:14:03 like you hand somebody over it, and it hands, the black berries to me, I take it with my right hand, and it puts its left hand, kind of like at the waist level, out palm up, to the left side of me. I take the blackberries, I pick some, and then I take a clump of blackberries in the exact manner that it handed to me. I hand it back to it, and it takes it with its left hand, and I put my left hand. down flat in the palm of its hand or holding hands I'm on the ladder
Starting point is 00:14:44 it's on the other side of the back of the back of fish it reaches out and we put at that moment I just felt this connection like we just became friends and later on through research
Starting point is 00:14:57 I learned that blackberries or any type of berries is a significant part of their survival so from a a big foot, a gift of black berries or berries to you, that's a pretty significant gift of friendship. And I learned that from discussions with Tom Cantrell.
Starting point is 00:15:18 So this is what it did. And we went on picking berries and touching hands, hold hands, back and forth. I would talk to it. I never thought to walk around the patch. And we kept doing this. We were friends as far as I concerned, being a. six-year-old. I just made friends with whatever this was. It wasn't an Af-American
Starting point is 00:15:40 kid. It was a big hair-covered animal creature that was about six foot six six six six foot six covered with hair that picked backberries with me. The people that were in the opposite end of the duplex had a lab. And the lab come
Starting point is 00:16:03 out, fired out, running it, started and barking and growling, it could smell the big foot as all that I could figure. And the big foot nip went at it, growling, shaking the bushes. And when it came out, started, I turned to the left and the ladder kicked out for me. And I hit the ground with a thump on my bottom. The ladder went down. One of my bucket, the last bucket of bear, it landed between the ladder legs on the ground. And I'm on the ground.
Starting point is 00:16:33 and the lab is just, I mean, it's trying to, I guess, protect me, and the Bigfoot's trying to protect me, and they're going at it back and forth. Football is back. Every game, every weekend, Draft King's Sportsbook has you covered. Every snap matters. Every comeback can shift the game. And every fourth quarter moment can change everything. Follow the action with Draft Kings, the number one sports book for live betting,
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Starting point is 00:17:44 Well, it comes out from behind the patch going on the trail to go into the woods, and it has to pass under a Douglas fir, and there's a dead branch about four inches thick that sticks out, and it comes out, reaches up with its right hand, grabs that. branch just snaps it down, breaks it off, hits the other end on the ground, and it's got like a three and a half four foot club, and it turns so much waist, it puts its left hand out, and it's facing the dog and they're at each other. No doubt in my mind that this, whatever it was, was fiction to walk this dog.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And people are starting to yell and scream and come out, and I'm still sitting on the ground looking right at it and it goes down the path in about 10 15 feet down the path there's a little swale there's a dead stump and a bow down tree it goes down behind into the little slale there a hole there and behind the stump and it just drops down and i'm sitting on the ground i can look and it's looking in my direction and the people come out and uh they call it they're calling the dog off The dog didn't go after it. It came back towards my direction. And my parent, my mom came out, and my grandmother come out.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And they're going, what's going on here? And the owner says, well, the Labdor went after a bear or something that was near your child. Now, we're going to stop right here and reflect back. Two things. one who picks blackberries in a blackberry patch bear foot and what bear runs on two feet can reach up with a red of the right hand four fingers a palm and opposing thumb and break off a branch and break it off the ground and turn while standing on two feet and look at the dog and have that club held about shoulder height yeah right exactly that's not that's not a bear so i get
Starting point is 00:19:56 escorted off into the duplex and they pick up two of my buckets of berries and everybody starts asking me questions about what I saw what happened and that scared me more than what happened outside because
Starting point is 00:20:14 these are adults and you know and I don't know truly how to explain them in a park warden or a sheriff or something shows up to remember the green uniform and they're describing this and my grandfather comes over and he asks me he says describe to me what it looks like and I described me to him and I said it had a face covered in
Starting point is 00:20:45 hair like a teenager with a beard and one of the adults maybe he's a warden or said does he know the difference between what a bear is and my grandfather says oh yes he knows what a bear is no problem and i did at that age and so my grandfather is asking me to describe it and he says did it have a muzzle did it have a nose i said had a nose and i reached up and touched my grandfather's nose uh and it knows like this and he says that i said and he asked me more i said had ears on the side it's not on top and i said it had a chin i touched my grandfather's chin and one of the adults says he's describing a big foot, a Sasquatch. That's what I really connected at.
Starting point is 00:21:32 That's what I saw, because I knew at that age what a bear looked like, and this was not a bear. So I asked him, well, did you bring my berries in? And I said, there's three buckets. This is what we brought two in. And my grandfather says, Patty, you guys, Valerie, I got to go out and get his other bucket. My two uncles went outside.
Starting point is 00:21:57 They walked around the back side of the patch, and they found 13-half-14-inch quadruple-e barefoot footprints with a little bit like a dirt in the track going down the path to where I said it stepped off behind the stuff, and then they found tracks of it coming back. So they walked back, and I had told them that the ladder had landed on its side, the legs apart, and the other bucket of berries was between the legs.
Starting point is 00:22:30 When they got there, the bucket was picked up, and all the berries were put back in the bucket, and the ladder was put together and laid next to the bush, and they had followed the tracks back from where it went off, up to the bucket to where the bucket of berries were. What would a friend do? It came back. And that was what started out for me.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And I truly believe that because of that incident and the physical contact with that Bigfoot led to many of the other encounters that I had with Bigfoot from then until, throughout my life, I believe is you make friends with them. They know you from my observations. If one knows you, I would put forth to the whole Bigfoot family, no matter where they're at or where they're at through the state,
Starting point is 00:23:37 they'll recognize you. I would agree. And I think that goes both ways, too. If you're recognized as someone who has bad intentions or is not a friend, that is going to go. across the family as a word. Yes, that does. I've listened to a lot of people in Washington State say, well, I've been out looking for 40 years. I've never seen the Bigfoot. And I go, what's your intentions? What are you doing? We're trying to follow them. I said, if you're doing
Starting point is 00:24:12 things, you know, with certain expectation and intentions, they're going to respond to that. without a doubt a big foot can read your facial expressions it can read your body language and it can understand your voice inflection and um i had never at any time felt threatened by that big foot it kind of felt like i had a big friend that was going to watch out for me and see that i wasn't going to get hurt while we were picking blackberries uh it was curious It definitely had intelligence. It definitely had patience because, you know, what a teenager would put up with a six-year-old?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Oh, absolutely. It's probably one of the best accounts I've heard of them in regards to quick intelligence. It's just incredible how many points in that account it shows its quick intelligence. Yes. I'm curious, you know, there are points when you actually had contact, physical contact, with the big foot. Do you remember did it have a smooth skin
Starting point is 00:25:23 or do you remember anything about how that felt? It felt soft. Its hair felt very soft. Of course, this was a juvenile. The skin was soft. It's definitely very much aware of its strength because it never like grabbed me.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It would touch and hold but it was not hard. It was very light and very gentle. And if I moved to move my hand away, it would let go. Of course, it could probably see me more than I could see it because I still had some of the screening from the top of the berry patch standing up, could look up and see me more clearly. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Wow. Until I'd look down. After you had this encounter, did it, put you down a path right away for trying to find them again or having interactions? Or was there a time period before you had your next interaction? I was always curious about my friend. And when we would go back there, if we went back to that same spot, I would look for it, especially on the Blackbird patches.
Starting point is 00:26:40 My next encounter when I saw Bigfoot was about six years later, 10 years later, 1969 at Killing Creek, Mount Adams. And we were camping there and we'd been fishing and the older people, the family members, had decided to take a nap and there was a huckleberry patch down the road from where we were at camp so I went to my mom and I asked her for her temperware bowl. I was going to go down to the huckleberry patch and pick huckleberries. So I did that and I got the bowl from my mom and I up the road maybe 75, 100 yards and there was a big slow, down hill that was covered it was a bit logged off area it was a blackberry huckleberries in it and ferns and stuff all the way down like 150 yards to the wood line and then over maybe 75 to the opposite wood line and as I stepped off the road to the edge of the of the patch where the huckleberries were I heard two high pitched two-tone like people say a mechanic bird whistle i can't whistle with a hoot but like and i just look and i look
Starting point is 00:28:16 around and i don't see nothing and i take a step toward into the going into the patch and the huckleberry bushes and the grass like something's walking going straight away from me down the hill so my thought is maybe i walked up on a deer or something and I looked at the huckleberries near me bushes, and here's something where people miss. All of the branches on top where the berries would be were missing. Like they were neatly clipped off or broken off. And I'm looking at this.
Starting point is 00:28:57 This doesn't look right. And I hear the whistle again from down at the bottom of the hill. look in that direction. And about 50 feet in front of me, the grass goes open and close again. But this is going left to right on the brow of a little rolling sill as it goes down. And it's motioning and it disappears behind a stump with rotten stump. It's got huckleberry's something going on. And I'd look at that and I go, maybe I stepped on the deer.
Starting point is 00:29:31 So I went a little bit further into the path. to look for huckleberries than I could pick. And I noticed at the bushes where there were not the twigs and stuff that had berries on it. Next to it, there was like a pile and a scattering of twigs, all about the same size, maybe a berry on it, or maybe a leaf on it. Later, like in 1972, I actually got to observe a female Bigfoot picking huckleberries and how she would break them off and pull them off with their lips and then just drop to twigs
Starting point is 00:30:13 I go, I was able to put that together and so I kept picking the blackberries and every now and then I'd see emotion in the grass and I didn't think nothing of it. The only thing I could smell was dirt, grass and ripe huckleberries.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And I looked at my bucket and I wasn't getting old. I wasn't getting very much at picking huckleberries. So I decided I was going to make like a cough or a basket or something out of my t-shirt. So I pulled off my sweatshirt and I laid it up on the bushes, took my t-shirt off, tied it in a knot, so there was no holes at the arms or sleeves and had like a basket. And I went, as I went to put my shirt back out, I'm looking through it. and the brush right in front of me moves.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And I look at it and I get the glimpse of the right side of like a head, a shoulder, a fat belly and a hip going through the brush. And man, I come up and just hold dead still because black, black shiny hair, Huckleberry patch, the first thing that comes to my mind is bare.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I'm like nine, 10 years old. And I go, uh-uh, uh-uh, hold still. So I hold still, and I don't smell a bear, I don't hear a bear, I don't see it, and I wait, and everything's quiet. Okay, nothing there. So I go over to the bushes, and I put my little t-shirt basket, everything at the bush, and I'd shake the, and I start getting huckleberries, and I would move along, and every now and then, I was at the side of my eye, I'd see that motion through the brush. I'd catch a glimpse of black hair, a bloody part,
Starting point is 00:32:14 but it was kind of paralleling me and going towards the opposite side of the woods. See nothing, smell nothing. Okay. So I'm doing this, and I'm picking the black huckleberries and filling up my bowl, and I'm looking down the path in front of me, and the path goes,
Starting point is 00:32:32 The path goes over a little hill and into the woods, and I can see under the big evergreen trees. And right at the edge of the wood, there's like five small hucklebird, but I can see the path between them. Football is back. Every game, every weekend, Draft King's Sportsbook has you covered. Every snap matters. Every comeback can shift the game.
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Starting point is 00:33:52 Going into the woods. So I get just about 20 feet from that spot and I'm filling up my bowl and there's the motion from my left side. The bushes are open and closing. And this time, I can see the form. And it's black. It's on all fours. I can't make out a distinguishable head, but I can see it's got a head. I can't part of it right here, the right side of it. It's coming from left to right. And it's going towards the wood. So I just hold still. And I have like squatted down and I changed to a kneeling position and I check my
Starting point is 00:34:34 my bowl and blast it and I look up looking down this path that goes under the trees and I can't see the path underneath the tree I go that's odd because I previously could see
Starting point is 00:34:48 underneath it and about this time this black form rocks back into a squatting position and I just freeze and I'm looking right at it, and it's looking at me, and I'm kneeling down, and I left foot down, right knee down, and I look right at it, maybe 20 faces away,
Starting point is 00:35:12 and it's looking at me, and I kind of straighten up a little bit, and at the edge of these five blue passes, it rocks up into a squatting position. I can make out the arms, the belly and the head. And it's got the wider in the back, ears on the side, flat nose is covered in black. And I'm looking at that in my mind saying you've seen that before. And I look at it and I know it's not a bear and my mind is racing back and I keep going back
Starting point is 00:35:51 when I was younger. I've seen this before. I've seen this before. And so I stand up and I take a step to the right, the road's up to my right, I'm going to go up, and I take a step to my right, and it stands up. It's standing there on two feet. It's more of a left profile to me at this time, and it takes a step forward and stands still, and it turns from the waist. And it's looking right at me, the Huckleberry bushes are tall. where it's at and it comes up to about its hip.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I can see it from the left side of its head all the way down to its arm. And I'm looking at it. I see the head. It's got an ear on the left side. It's got a protruding like lantern jaw. And it's got eyes. It can shine. It's got no visible neck.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I see the shoulder. I can see its chest move. It's breathing. I can see its arm and its wrist and its hand is down. on the bush and I'm looking at this and I'm going in my mind and subconscious telling me you've seen this before and so I'm watching it and it's breathing and I start looking down the body and I hope this is generated enough I see nipples and breasts and a big fat round belly and instantly I feel myself turn red and I look down I break contact
Starting point is 00:37:26 with it because here I am. I'm 19 years old. So that was kind of an awkward embarrassing moment. And finally I got enough courage to look up and I look up at it and it's standing there turned a little bit more towards me
Starting point is 00:37:42 and it's smiling. And it kind of has an expression on its face like a mom or a woman would get, you know, when a little child's body and it got surprised or embarrassed by their condition. going,
Starting point is 00:37:57 this is something different. This isn't, you know, a person person. And so as I watch and I'm watching it, standing there watching me, and I'm standing there watching it.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And I have the bowl of berries in my right hand. I have a shirt full of berries in my left. So I take the and the sack is
Starting point is 00:38:27 and I take that sack over the bowl and put the berries in it, holding the bottom of the bowl with my right hand and I smooth it over with my left hand and I look over at it and I it's smiling at me, it puts its hand
Starting point is 00:38:42 on the bottom of its belly, its right hand and it takes its left hand and the same motion I did over the top of the bit, it rubs on its on its belly and it dawning on me this is some type of a pregnant, something that looks like a person. And I just looking at it and it just smiles at you, almost like, you know, how a beaming first time pregnant woman would do.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And so I go, well, maybe I should leave. And I'm trying to figure out, well, what's it do? I never thought it didn't occur to me that maybe because it was pregnant, it might have been hungry, and maybe it wanted to share some of the buckleberries with me, which I think I could have done. And so I start walking away on the edge of the road, and it walks along, and it's watching me, and I get to one spot, and it looks at me,
Starting point is 00:39:40 and it turns to the right and goes down over the hill. And as I walk to the edge of the road, it popped into my head, the Blackberry patch, when I was six years old, and then going, okay, this is a different Bigfoot. And it's obviously it's a pregnant female Bigfoot. And I was thinking what was going on. And then later, a few of the years that I reminisced on this, it became very simple.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Or maybe it was something that the Bigfoot was allowing me to finally put together with it. what would a first time pregnant mom or Bigfoot do? They would watch other children. And I believe because I was a child and she was an expected mom that she was watching me. And so that's what it was for me on that day with that Bigfoot. That was at Mount, like I said, at Mount Adams Killing Creek. that's incredible do you remember anything
Starting point is 00:40:54 about the details of the teeth when it smiled at you yes their teeth are like ours they are only bigger they do not have
Starting point is 00:41:09 canines like gorillas or chimpanzees or do they don't their teeth are like ours only bigger bigger.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I learned in 1972 where I got to sit to the Huckleberry patch with a family of Bigfoot against to a mom who was like eight feet away from me she opened her mouth
Starting point is 00:41:34 and yawned and then I could count her teeth and see her teeth. They do not have canine teeth like we would perceive canine teeth for eye teeth
Starting point is 00:41:44 like gorillas and long, no, their teeth are like ours. They're just thicker and bigger. Wow. Mitch Townsend in his book describes
Starting point is 00:42:00 the teeth of a big foot from bite marks. And what he is describing in his book is exactly what I saw. That is very interesting. That's a name that comes up every once in a while. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Take it to the bank when he puts in that book about their teeth structure. Okay. And like I said, I have seen their mouth up close and how he described him. And from the bite marks of their teeth, my observations to what he wrote is a match. Seeing something at age six is definitely different than seeing something at age 19. Nine. Sorry, age nine.
Starting point is 00:42:48 did that sighting at a little older, did that affect you in a different way than your initial sighting, or did you kind of have the same reaction after? I felt a confirmation knew than myself that this was the same animal, only a female as to what I saw when I was younger, and I had always wanted to see them again because this to me was a friend. Okay, I know that this wasn't the same one, but it was the same being, creature, animal, really common that I'd seen before.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Gotcha. It's extremely interesting. It sounds like, so that was 1969, and just a few years after that, then you had, an even more close interaction. Yeah, that was, let's see, that was, okay, in 69, the day that Armstrong landed on the moon, that I was up at the same spot, only I was on the other side of the creek. It's killing creek, and I was fishing. And I'm fishing, you know, and there was birds.
Starting point is 00:44:13 and stuff and all of a sudden, it went quiet. And I hear that whistle again. But I'm kind of facing the creek off to my right about 30 feet. It's this big, dead fur snag, about four foot across. And I never thought to look in that direction. And I look around and I don't see anything. So I go back to fishing. I catch a fish.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I throw it on the bank and back to fishing. and I hear like a rock on wood whack whack and I turn and I look and I don't see anything and again
Starting point is 00:44:53 I don't pay attention to the snag and I look and I look and I look and I don't see anything so I go back to fishing and all of a sudden dirt
Starting point is 00:45:05 pine cones and rock go across the ground in front of me and next to my foot so I go okay Who's throwing stuff at me? And I turn a little bit to the right and I look and I look at this dump, that snag around it. I don't see nothing.
Starting point is 00:45:24 And I go, this is, you know, back to fishing. And I'm back to fishing and I get pelted again with pebbles, rocks, and dirt. At this time, it goes across my foot. And I go, something that he's playing with me or trying to get my attention. and so I turn even more to the right, so the creek is on my left side, Killing Creek. And facing right, it's a clear cut area. I got puckleberries, and there's that big stump again on my right,
Starting point is 00:45:58 and I look and I don't see nothing. So I go back to fishing, and about this time out of my right side, I see motion, and I look up and here's this stalker-sized rock flying through the air, and it hits in the water in front of me and I go something they threw something at me or something through something. So I turn to the right
Starting point is 00:46:23 and for some reason my attention focused on the big snag and I see the left arm come back and I go aha so I turn and look facing directly at the snag
Starting point is 00:46:43 and I see this head and body leaning out from the left side its left side from towards me on this big dead snag and I'm looking at that and I go that's big
Starting point is 00:47:00 and it puts it takes a side step and it puts both its hands up on this snag It's kind of like a bear with sidewalk or on the stag, and I'm looking at this, and I go, you don't fool me, you're not a bear.
Starting point is 00:47:19 There's no snout, there's no ears on top of the head. Now, if you remember the old-time wrestler Haystack Calhoun, he was 6'4 and 650 pounds. This critter is three-foot bigger and got him by 300 pounds. So this is big, And being at that time, a little older, I turned and look at it. And the first thought that comes to my mind is, who is this throwing rocks at me? And then it dawns on me.
Starting point is 00:47:53 That's not close. That's hair. It's brown. It's black. It's got some lighter streakings on the torso. It's a male. I can see that. It's not close.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And this thing. like I said, is about nine foot tall, a good 900 peak, 900 pounds. And it's just standing there looking at me. And I'm standing looking at it. And it sways a little bit, and it goes, and I go back at it. And I stand up and look at it. And it has its right hand up on the dead snag. And it brings its left arm over and crosses over and puts it on its left arm.
Starting point is 00:48:41 left arm is standing there looking at me. And I'm watching it. And I got a pretty good idea of what it is. It's a male big foot. Football is back. Every game, every weekend, Draft King's Sportsbook has you covered. Every snap matters. Every comeback can shift the game. And every fourth quarter moment can change everything. Follow the action with Draft Kings, the number one sports book for live betting. Built to keep up with the speed of sports. Built with Canadian sports fans in mind. Draft Kings brings the action together in one easy-to-use app.
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Starting point is 00:49:58 The only thing I can figure is it was coming down that path to get a maybe get a drink of water and I was sitting there in front of it. But it was curious as to what I was doing. I was fishing. So I watch it, and eventually it kind of rocks a little bit, then from the waist, it turns to its left, and then the body turns around, and it starts walking away from me. So I go, I'm going to see this. I start walking behind it. I'm not afraid of, I got an idea.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I'm pretty sure what it is. I just walk behind it. and as I walk behind it I get about to the snag and it stops and it turns to its left and looks back to me I stop just standing aside still I don't tell me don't follow it I'm watching it as it walks away I can see the muscles in its back move
Starting point is 00:50:55 I can see the muscles in its legs move I can see the bottom of its foot as it comes up it comes down on the ground how the weight transfers. I'm not close to it. I'm maybe 35 feet behind it, walking a little bit behind it, and I get to where that stump the stag is,
Starting point is 00:51:14 and I look down, and I can see on the ground where it pulled the big rock out of the ground and threw it at me into the creek, and there on the ground, in the path, is about an 18 to 19-inch track, about six feet in front of it is another, going straight,
Starting point is 00:51:33 to that creature. So I do, this was a male Bigfoot. And it was on the same day that Neil Armstrong landed on the moon. I saw Mr. Bigfoot up close and personal. And again, I believe I saw it not so much by coincidence, but because I had seen and interacted with them before. It could have been a coincidence or we just happened to be at the same place at the same time, but I never felt threatened. I felt that the whistle and the rock clock and even the throwing the stuff at my foot and this big rock in the creek, it was trying to get my attention. It was trying to get me to look at it. I don't think it was trying to scare me away. It made no aggressive motion.
Starting point is 00:52:22 It was more curious like, I'm here. Do you see me? But then it turned him walked away. I guess I had occupied its time span enough. And that was July 21st, 69? Yeah. Okay. Why do you think you returned the same noise it made to you?
Starting point is 00:52:48 Through the years that I've been around him, I've learned that Bigfoot make certain vocalizations. They also make certain noises with rocks and sticks. most people that are around because don't put two and two together or haven't heard them make rock clacks you know wood knocks or vocalizations whistles they don't know what it is
Starting point is 00:53:15 I've heard it before I've seen them do it so I know in my mind is that I can recognize it this is what that is and over the years I've learned to look and look and listen for that. I've had them walk along side of me through the woods, juveniles and adults. And when I'm aware that there's ones there, it's like I can feel them there, I hear them there by the
Starting point is 00:53:47 sounds that they make, by the sounds of their foot makes when they're walking. People that say you can't tell the difference between a deer walking and a big foot, that's utter nonsense. You sure can. A hard, Cloven hoof makes a different sound when it hits the ground as compared to that big, flappy foot of a big foot. And people say, well, we don't see the tracks. You've got to understand the area of that foot can display 750 pounds of weight per square inch. So you got a 15-inch track, which is basically a eight-foot-tall big foot that's
Starting point is 00:54:32 650 pounds. Unless there's snow or soft ground, you're not going to see complete tracks because that foot can displace that weight on the ground. It's the makeup of the soil that they're walking on. I've found tracks that were quite clear. I have found tracks on hard, big clay
Starting point is 00:54:58 that you might find a tow print. but if you look in the general direction you'll pick up scuff marks and it's because of that big foot that you don't see a lot of tracks because it can displace that body weight you see that there's that progression still as a young
Starting point is 00:55:18 and I still believe it's because of my meeting that one when I was six that they were there and maybe this big foot was checking up on me like I was a friend I believe the family the family is the big foot
Starting point is 00:55:35 if they've seen one person it appears that they all seem to recognize that person they choose that person to be friend and through research and reading a lot of reports and other people's
Starting point is 00:55:51 observations I believe that that is true that they'll check up on a friend see how you're going what's you doing that's my belief that's really interesting was then the next interaction
Starting point is 00:56:07 you had with the family this was in 1972 this one was verified by the BFRO because another people that were there at that day saw two of the four that I saw we had went up to Lake Cushman
Starting point is 00:56:25 and again this was in July beginning of Huckleberry season and there were four of us and we got to camp late in the afternoon and made camp and fire and it was getting on towards dark and people were coming in and out of the camps
Starting point is 00:56:42 and we were listening and it was dark and we heard this high-pitched like hysterical scream like a woman screaming in hysteria and like everybody just kind of freezes and looks up the hill like what on earth is this and it's followed by a more like baritone scream and then like a child screaming and this is going on back and forth and we're talking there in other camps they go and they thought
Starting point is 00:57:14 it was coyotes and I go no that's that's too loud and it doesn't have that yap yap that coyotes do when they're when they're howling and as other periods of women Maybe it's a cougar screaming. I go, no, that's not a cougar screaming. It doesn't have that, wow, a cat in it when the cougar screams. And I've been out in the woods a lot, and my dad had hunting dogs, and they'd hunt bear and cougar and with the dogs and out deer hunting, and I have heard bear noises. I've heard cougar noises, deer noises, elk noises, just about anything that's out there that makes a noise,
Starting point is 00:57:59 I've heard it. So this is going on and people start adding a little extra wood to their fire. And about this time, this woman comes in and she says, she was walking up and she heard the screams. She says, I thought I saw a mountain gorilla cross the road. And I look at the people look at myself, there's no mountain gorillas in Washington State around Lake Cushman. and she's seeing something. Maybe she saw a bear or something. And so we were all talking and I told my friends,
Starting point is 00:58:34 I'm pretty good at hunting and tracking. I'm going to get up in the morning, and I'm going to walk up the old road up towards where I heard that sound coming from. So it got first light, and I got dressed, and I was wearing khaki pants and brown sweatshirt. I had a hat on and had long brown hair. And so I start walking up. I crossed this wooden bridge.
Starting point is 00:59:06 This is a major Kent site on Lake Cushman. And it's a little like bridge with a rusty gate. And I go across the bridge for the main road. And I start walking up the road. And I hadn't gone 50, 75 yards, and down in the gulf, which is thick with ferns and trees and huckleberry. berries. I hear
Starting point is 00:59:28 branches breaking, something's moving below me, and I hear it sounds like squirrel chatter. And I just stop because I'd never heard that before. What is that? And I got,
Starting point is 00:59:45 I'm on the high ground above it. They don't, they had no idea I was above them. And so I listen and I hear it move and I move with it going up the road. and I keep hearing the chatter, branches breaking and stuff like that. And I'm looking at my watch.
Starting point is 01:00:03 It's maybe 5.30 in the morning. It's light, but I don't see anybody. And I keep walking and it stops. It would break a branch. It would stop. And I'd walk. When it moved, I moved. When it's stopped, I stop.
Starting point is 01:00:20 And I keep looking down, trying to look down through the trees and the brush, the ferns, the huckleberries. to see what's below me. And as I'm coming up, I come to a tree, and I stop and I look down, and I see two figures turn around and go down over the hill, and I'm looking at it. It's a blonde color phase.
Starting point is 01:00:44 It's like a bouffant hairstyle from the back, and the other one's short, come up to about its waist, and it goes back down in the gulf, and I go, wait a minute. I know I was the first one out of camp that morning. And by the hair of the eye says, what would a girl be doing out here,
Starting point is 01:01:04 a mom and her daughter bushwhacking at this time of the morning? It disappears. And pretty soon I hear the chatter again, and I hear the branches breaking. So I parallel them again. I got the high ground. I'm going to keep the high ground on them. And as they're coming up, almost the crest of the road,
Starting point is 01:01:24 I'm standing there by this tree. and I'm looking about 70, 50, 75 yards in front of me, and the shadow moves. And I just stand still and hugged that tree. And it steps up to the edge of the road, and this thing is nine foot tall. It's black. It is huge.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And my mind goes, I know what that is. No doubt about it. That's a big foot. It turns from the waist. It looks up the right towards me, up the road. It turns to the left, looks down the road. It goes across that. road in two steps 10% grade thick brush and it goes up that like it's walking on flat ground and I go
Starting point is 01:02:04 yeah ha I know what that is I've seen that before that's a big fun and but then I don't know what's on the left side of me so I walk a little bit further and I hear it again and I go where's when we to find out if a human steps on a branch or breaks a branch don't take that next step so I reached up and grabbed this dead branch and I go snap and I stand still everything below me stops and I go okay if it's a person they're gonna take that next step nothing I go okay this is not person a little while later I hear it moving again so I move and I'm at this is a clearing it's got stumps and Huckleberry in it. It's got old-grown huckleberries. And I step off the road and I sit down in a stump
Starting point is 01:03:04 behind like three little huckleberry bushes and there's a little four-inch stump next to my left foot. And I just sit down. And I'm eating huckleberry. It's just picking them. It's quiet. And to my left, about eight, ten feet away, this blonde, brown arm comes out. grabs a hold of the Huckleberries and pulls it back. And I go, I saw that arm. That arm was four to half, five foot long, big long hand. Blonde brown hair coloring on the hair looked almost like the bleach color of an Alaskan grizzly, but there's no grizzly in this part of the country.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And I'm watching it, and it pulls back, and I can see a form just inside the edge of of the brush line and I look and I see like a tan hourglass looking in my direction. I just sit dead still and watch. I don't move anything but my eyes and I'm watching it and pretty soon I pick up another like an hourglass on its side mask
Starting point is 01:04:19 tan colored and I pick up the eyes. They're in front of whatever that face is and I'm looking and I can make an outline of two figures just inside the brush, so I just sit still. Football is back. Every game, every weekend, Draft King's Sportsbook has you covered. Every snap matters.
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Starting point is 01:05:24 physically present in Ontario. Eligibility and restrictions apply. See draftkings.com slash sportsbook for details. Please play responsibly. Number one sports book for live betting based on available live market data. And pretty soon the one that's a little further away, it turns to its left. And it's on off, and it kind of goes over the crest of the hill. And I pick up the back of a head. It's blonde colored.
Starting point is 01:05:50 There's no neck. I can see ears on the side covered in fine hair. it disappears over the over into the brush and I go what was that about this time from the left about eight feet away from me this big animal comes out on all fours and sits down eight to ten feet in front of me I am sitting just behind its right shoulder like I said eight to ten feet away and my head comes up to the bottom of its armpit and i'm five nine and this thing is sitting down so it's i figure sitting down on the ground this thing has to be seven seven and a half foot tall and it's got that bouffant hairstyle there's no visible neck its head is about 20 inches wide
Starting point is 01:06:45 22 inches high. It's wider in the back than the front. And I can see its back, its shoulder blades, its side cheek sitting with its feet and legs kind of pulled up to the right side. It's sitting on its left cheek. And I can see the feet and the legs. And I go, I'm going to just sit still and watch to see what this is.
Starting point is 01:07:08 And so I just sit there and I'm watching. And I say, I wonder if this is the two animals that I saw come up the road that was down in the burst that turned around and went back down. So as I'm watching, it straightens out and turns a little bit more to the right, looks in my direction, and I don't move at all. I just sit still. I think, well, it doesn't know I'm there.
Starting point is 01:07:35 And again, I'm behind its right shoulder. And it turns a little bit more to the right, and it starts picking the hookaberry. snap off the trigs, suck them off the twig, the berries and the leaves. And there's that same sucking sound that I'd heard before. And it drops those twigs right straight down. So I go, okay, this is eating. And as I'm watching it, it turns a little bit more to the right. And it flips its eyes towards me, but a little bobby and I just looked out.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I go, is it looking at me? And it looks away, and I look at it. and it looks back and I look down and we do this about five or six times that I figured does it see me if I'd have looked just past it I'd have found the answer to that question so it turns a little bit more and it's feeding
Starting point is 01:08:28 and then it turns and looks in my direction again I don't look at it I just sit still and then I go I think it knows I'm here and I remember what Jane Goodall in her studies with chimps said act like your partner was going on. So I start picking
Starting point is 01:08:48 puckleberries and eating them and I look over and there's the eyeballs looking right at me and it kind of looks at me and it reaches over and it picks up picks a prig of puckleberries and does the suck them off bit and drops it and I kind of look at it and smile
Starting point is 01:09:08 and I'm tired and it stretches and yawns and when it yawns Like I said, I'm eight to ten feet off to its side. It opens its mouth, and I'm looking full into its mouth. I can see its teeth. It has a tongue like ours. Its teeth are like ours.
Starting point is 01:09:27 They're bigger. No big long canines, and it's yawns. And I try to cover my face and not yawn, and I yawn at it. And I go, oh, no. Dian Feinstein says in her studies of mountain gorillas, showing your teeth as a sign of aggression. I go, oops, I don't want to do that. I look down, and I cover my face, and I yawn again,
Starting point is 01:09:52 and I flip my eyes to the left, and there she is. She's yawning, covering her mouth, looking at me, and I go, oh, my gosh, she knows I'm there, and she's looking at me, and she's mimicking what I'm doing. And she sits up, and I sit up, and I can see it's a female it's got breast, blonde,
Starting point is 01:10:18 brown color formation and she turned a little bit more and she's sitting kind of on the side and she's eating and so I'm eating and she'd look at me and I'd look at her and all of a sudden she kind of straightens up and she rolls her eyes up
Starting point is 01:10:32 and she looks behind me and she bears her teeth in like a grimace and I go, uh-oh telling me I'm too close or something? I just look down and I turn and I look to the right behind me and across the road on the edge of the brush there's this big black form
Starting point is 01:10:54 like it's sitting there like a stump and I should have paid attention to it. The male had walked up the hill turned around and come back down and sat down behind me and he was there all the time watching me. I found out when I did some tracking later. So I'm watching her and she goes back to feeding and she comes up
Starting point is 01:11:21 her left hand to her mouth and she puts a bunch of chew berries and leaves in her left palm and she reaches out towards these three clumps of the has like a little stump in it off to her left. My eyes are right on that hand.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I'm watching that hand And as it gets towards the clump, that little stump goes over into all four and the hand comes out and it takes the berries and the chew leaves from the mom's hand and pops in his mouth and I go, aha, that's a toddler, but it's not the same one that I saw. And so I'm watching it. She does this a couple times. And I'm just sitting there and I decided I'm going to sit still and watch. or did the other one go? Because this little one is not the same one that I saw. It was just a little further over.
Starting point is 01:12:14 And so I'm watching it, and I sit there, and I take my left hand, and I put it down on my left knee next to the bush. And all of a sudden, this little doll-like face with golf ball-sized eyes, a little bit of hair on its face, like a coo-cut, black. You could see the stu-like face. the skin color on its belly and it's under its arm kind of like a natural chand deer and a pasty white it's looking right at me and smiling and it takes its right hand and puts it on the bush to the right of it and I go it's watching me
Starting point is 01:12:52 and so it pulls it back and I pull mine back and then it takes its left one puts it over on the brush and it looks at me I take my left hand and I do the same back at it it gets excited man you can see the excitement and we start doing this and it sticks its left foot out the one side of the bush i stick my left foot out it sticks its right foot out i stick my right foot out and i'm about ready to die i'm playing with whatever this is and we're mimicking each other back and forth back and forth and uh i bent down behind the bush i'm going to look up and it drops down behind the bush and i look out of the corner of my eye and the mom does the exact same thing.
Starting point is 01:13:35 And I'm going, are they mimicking me? Are they playing with me? But occasionally, you do the same thing. So it comes up. He does that. And the sun's getting a little brighter, and I got my hat. So I go down and I put my hand over the broom of the hat, baseball hat, and I look up and I look across.
Starting point is 01:13:55 He comes up and he's doing the exact same thing. And I'm trying not to laugh. I am so excited. this little one and I are playing back and forth. And it ducks back down. I duck down. Mom ducks down. And I raise up and I point at it.
Starting point is 01:14:13 He raises up and points back at me. I go, this is interesting. So I decided, well, maybe I can talk to it. So I very quietly would come up and it comes up and I point at it and it points that to me. And I go very soft. I see you and the mom sitting right. She whirls around towards me throwing dust and dirt and backs up and I go, I scared it. I never thought dawned on me that it probably has never heard a human speak that close.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I think because of my appearance, she thought I was another juvenile big foot. And she backs up and the little guy drops on all fours and it lets out a whimper. and she he he later puts out its hand palm up towards its mom and I go I saw that before again again watching Jane Goodall
Starting point is 01:15:09 and the chimps and Diane Fonsie the mom reaches out with her left hand and she takes its hand and there's some communication back from more like grunts and I take a deep breath and I said
Starting point is 01:15:25 I'm going to try this the minute she looks back, I reach my hand out towards her, palm up, the same thing as I see the baby and I'm going. I'm going to hold still, I'm not going to make eye contact with her. She comes up to me on all six.
Starting point is 01:15:41 She's on her feet, her knees, and her hands coming towards me, and they have a med-tarsal break in their foot, or joint, we want to call it, and I can see the front part of her foot is flat on the ground, but the back part and the heels up. off the ground. There's that flex. There's that joint. And she comes over and I still have my hand
Starting point is 01:16:03 out. And I'm thinking to myself, is this a wise idea? She could grab me and throw me in the lake from here. She reaches over and she takes my hand and hers. Now, my hand is five inches wide and nine inches long. And my palm of my hand fits between the knuckle of her thumb and the first finger joint. And her fingers could wrap around and touch the back of my wrist and I go okay she holds my hand and I look at her and I go I'm sorry I didn't mean to scare you and I take my hand slowly and just put it on my lap and she's looking at me like how did you do to do that she just calm surprised look and she backs up and sits down I just hold still and I'm watching her and she's reaches out and the stump is next to my left foot she taps on it three times I go I think
Starting point is 01:17:07 she wants my attention and I reach down and I tap it three times back at her and she comes up on all floors and she looks me right in the face and I look her right in the face and I figure I'm looking at a prehistoric human, not a giant wood ape. This is more human-looking, even though it has ape-like behavior and features. This is a human. It's a prehistoric ancestor. It doesn't smell bad. It has a very expressive face, and she's looking right in the face.
Starting point is 01:17:42 And I look at her and I talk to her again. I say again, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to frighten you. and I figure she's going to leave and she sits down almost next to me and I'm like I'm 19 years old and I am just about ready to burst of excitement here's this animal that people say does not exist it's sitting with an arm's length of me there's a toddler 12 feet away from me and it's playing with me and I am really trying to stay calm, not jump onto my skin with excitement, because I am here having an up close and personal encounter with a mother, Sasquatch, and a toddler. And she sits down and watches me, and she starts feeding, and I start feeding, and all of a sudden, the brush with a little one,
Starting point is 01:18:37 he grabs him with a brush, he goes, he shakes it at me, and I grab the bush, and they go, back at him. And we start doing this playing back and forth, arm, leg, push this way, this way, up, down. And the mom's sitting there. She kind of looks over at me and rolls her eyes and looks at the little one and rolls her eyes. And I look at her, go, you obnoxious big sister. And we just keep playing like this.
Starting point is 01:19:04 And find I get tired. And I say, well, maybe I should let them go. And I put my arm on my elbow on my knee and my hand and my chin. The little one does the same thing. the mom does the same thing, and she turns from the waist, and she shows me her backside, and she crawls away from me, and I figure, okay, she's going to go, and she reaches out, and she pulls up the youngster, and she goes over the bank behind this tree, and I figure she's going to put this tree behind me and go down, or she's going to cut to the right, and as she goes over,
Starting point is 01:19:41 all of a sudden, she comes up, or she stood up to walk, and as she stood, stands up against my evening of the tree, here comes the blonde head and shoulders across. Like, well, there's the other one. It was just over the hill from where it's, it crosses over and joins the mom, and they disappear behind the tree. When they disappear behind the tree, I move down on all fours, and I shoot about 20 feet to my right, because there's where the trails intersecting. One comes up to the road, and I get over there to the edge, and I kneel down.
Starting point is 01:20:14 and as I kneeled down and it's raining pine cones and dirt and I go something made through something where I knocked something loose and I turned and looked to my left and about 15 feet away
Starting point is 01:20:31 five foot tall female blonde brown is a juvenile female big foot and she just she has this look like a bashful little girl like who you saw me I just look at it and about this time, off to my right.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I hear, oh, scratch goes the tree, and I turn and I look to my right, and I go distraction, and I see it. I turn back to the left, and the juvenile pewperos run and takes off running full tilt down the hill. Football is back. Every game, every weekend, Draft King's Sportsbook has you covered. Every snap matters. Every comeback can shift the game. and every fourth quarter moment can change everything.
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Starting point is 01:22:11 and I go, why did he do that? He's been watching me. I didn't realize, but there were four other people, the other people that verified they saw him and the female coming up and he saw them. I guess there were too many people around because I was well within its comfort zone of the mother, the toddler, and the other one. And so I turned and I look and this blonde, brown street comes firing off the corner running through. there's a clip of Douglas fir's saplings
Starting point is 01:22:43 they're about 10, 12 foot tall, and she goes through them like a D-8 cat, man. She goes right through them, and she's jumping and stepping over logs and steps, stumps, and logs that we'd have to jump over, and she goes down about 65 yards or 70 yards, below me and stands still and turns up and looking at me.
Starting point is 01:23:02 She has that slope-like appearance at the, and she's standing there looking at me, And I go, okay, there's, and I watched the juvenile run around and go behind the mom. And I'm looking, where's the toddler? Where's the baby? And I go, did I scare him? Did she lose the baby? And I'm looking around.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I looked at the area that she ran, where the other one ran, and I couldn't see nothing. And she makes a vocalization. I can't hear it. But I feel like a vibration on me. That's that low infrasound. line of sight. And so I look at her and she's looking in my direction, but I'm trying to see, it's like she's looking below me. And so I come up to edge and I look down 10 feet below me, about two feet away.
Starting point is 01:23:52 There's some huckleberries and I see this little butt in the fetal position sticking out from behind it. There's the toddler. It's on the ground. And I look at it and I kneel down and I say, very soft to it I can see you and it jumps up and it stands up and it's
Starting point is 01:24:15 looking to my right across in the direction of the male it sighs and it's looking around and I go it's looking for its mom but it's looking at me or the other and its mom is straight down below it so I take my hand I put my hand up and it watches my hand
Starting point is 01:24:31 and I make like a pointer and I point really slowly down at its mom it pulls its hand up it makes it like a pointer it turns from the waist it points and sees its mom it whips around
Starting point is 01:24:45 and it has this big expression on its face like you found my mommy I'm chucking and I go hey I didn't scare you that was your dad or whatever that was it threw down the tree and growled and it looks at me but then it kind of got its nervous too much and it
Starting point is 01:25:02 takes off running down the hill and there's a log about 20 feet in front of it. It's about five foot. And it's something. He hits it with its left hand and it volts it. And it comes up, its feeder apart. He'd run it down that heel.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Sometimes he would swing on a branch. It could teach Marshawn Lynch, Broken Field, running. It goes down and it stopped by the mom. And I hear the vocalizations again. It's got its arms up. And the mom touched it. And I can read that by language. Mom, pick me up.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Mom doesn't pick it up. and it's there and I'm watching it and like a toddler holds onto its mom's dress or pant leg it does that and it steps in behind it its mom and she's standing there left profile and it's to her in front of her but walking it's behind him and I keep watching and pretty soon it
Starting point is 01:25:58 like it do a tree peak it peaks out from behind its mom and I point at it and I go I can see you and it pops back up and I hear some more vocalizations and all of a sudden she turns and he turns and he points
Starting point is 01:26:18 up to hill at me and I hear a definite four-syllable vocalization and I discussed it with Scott Taylor who talks to Dr. Johnson the linguist and according to what
Starting point is 01:26:34 They told me the native magazine. What the vocization basically meant was, and so it is or so you do, I see you, and it was answering back. And so it turns, and the monitor, and it starts walking down the bank towards the woods. And I got my right horn about my side, and I just raised my arm and I wade at it at the tool. And he's looking back and like a toddler would wave at you. It weighs back at me and it disappears over the bank. And I go, all right, I'm going to do two things. I'm going to walk over to where that tree got thrown down and see what I can do.
Starting point is 01:27:19 And I walk over there, and this tree, it was dead snag is thrown down and it split, almost like a 25 foot tall spear is on the ground. And as I walk back towards where the stump would be, it smells like somebody turned an outhouse over. and I walk a little bit farther and there on the ground is two piles of fresh steaming poop and then on one side of the water drainage on the side of the road is a footprint on the other side is another footprint the size of a like a football bigger the male who had been sitting behind me all the time he got up he threw down that tree I think that was a warning um And I looked to see what he was looking at from that position.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I could see her eyes sitting. And as I'm looking over the bank, I see the tops of the heads of four people coming up. He had seen them and did that one bark for the family. And I talked to them as we walked back to camp and they said they saw him go up the hill to their left, my right. and the daughter said she saw one or two that were like a light brown color go to the other way and go yeah that's with the other ones so we walked out and i've told them what i'd seen and i got back to where i can't to my friends go what did you see i said if i told you you you wouldn't believe me but i eventually did tell them and that is now that written indeed that's the one siding that i get the most questions about Because like the first one and the other sightings, those were all first time encounters with a Bigfoot. The later ones that I would have in Eastern Washington are with a family of Bigfoot that is camped, that live in the area that we camp at.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Lynn, this is absolutely incredible. It's probably one of the most incredible accounts that I've ever heard. we had talked about those pages you have written. You have got to make this into a book so it's not lost to time eventually. No, it took me a while to get all my notes. It took me a while to get all my notes back together. I don't type. It's all handwritten. They're all very descriptive of what I've seen.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I have drawings and pictures of glyphs. and they do communicate with you and with others with glyphs. Also, they make the wood structures. Glifts, some are for you. Ones that they leave for you, you'll know it. Others are between them. Some are art. Some are like a map.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Tom can trails, I shouldn't be able to read them. oh, it's for general ones, but I've had the ability since I've had that contact with them. Wow, yeah. It's like I'm reading something and it'll jump up off the page. I know what that means.
Starting point is 01:30:34 And it comes from the interacting with the Bigfoot. They choose who they will be friends with. They choose who they will show themselves with. Most people that are out in the woods you see a Bigfoot. The first thing you do is point at,
Starting point is 01:30:52 scream, yell. Point a gun, they're gone. Are you talking about a habituated big foot or a non-habituated big foot? I've seen both. Glassing across the canyon, I see this black form by a rock. Okay, I put the glasses on it. It's an animal sitting there.
Starting point is 01:31:13 I crank it up. I get a little reflection off my thing. It turns and looks at me and stands up. Football is back. Every game, every weekend. Draft King's Sportsbook has you. covered. Every snap matters. Every comeback can shift the game and every fourth quarter moment can change everything. Follow the action with Draft Kings, the number one sports book for live betting.
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Starting point is 01:32:28 They'll see you before and they're generally gone. The ones that most people have encounters with are habituated people. Being habituated to people has both positive and negative consequences. You've got to leave your fear at home. if you show fear you're going to get a negative response from them I for the most tired
Starting point is 01:32:57 have just been either sitting down or stopped walking and then seen them one I in the eastern Washington family that I interact with the one juvenile he used to walk along and follow me
Starting point is 01:33:11 walking through the woods every now and then he'd peek out at me where I could see him and when I walk in the area and I become aware that he was there in a very calm, quiet voice, I would say come walk with me.
Starting point is 01:33:28 And after a while, he would step out and see me. And I would walk along and I would say, hey, company, are you there? I've got company again. And I was walking out and eventually he walked up next to me.
Starting point is 01:33:46 And that was a a lifetime thing. I was going to try and take his picture. I took my phone out, turned it on, put my hands in front of my body and turned it. And then I realized no, that's a defensive thing. In their body length, that means
Starting point is 01:34:02 go away. He backed straight up away from me. And a lot of people got to, if you see when you've got to learn their body language, you see pictures, and people describe a big foot, brings its hands up in front of it and kind of like push away into the turns. That's
Starting point is 01:34:18 go away or I'm going to leave. Okay. That's that body language. They reach out, a palm up, like a mother just a baby. That's a greeting. That's a comfort thing. Woodlocks are a form of communication.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Rock clacks are a form of... Sometimes you can get away with imitating what they do. Like, I shake a bush. You shake a bush back at them. But you've got to keep your personal security and responsibility, because as one friend of mine found out up there, he heard a Bigfoot banging rocks back and forth,
Starting point is 01:34:54 and he started banging the rocks in the same thing. Well, I guess in Bigfoot culture, he just challenged the big dominole. He said, like in the God, that's the King Kong movie, he said he came down that hill towards him, and he said, I got on my quad, and I was out of there before he got there.
Starting point is 01:35:16 You hear that, like a bar. like a bark that's a that's a communication that a male will do you hear like squirrel chatter that's generally between a mother and juvenile i've been up at night and i put some beans and stuff out on the rock and i kept hearing like turkey calls turkeys don't puck at night turkeys are in the tree and I got up and went over there at the morning. I went over there. All the bees were gone. There was no feathers.
Starting point is 01:35:52 There was no poop. But a lot of the brush had been pressed down. Okay. And it's like, yeah, they were there. There's lots of pros and cons about gifting and leading food for them. I leave food gifts for them. Some they'll take, some they won't. Lynn, I could talk to you for absolute hours.
Starting point is 01:36:18 I would love to continue this conversation on a later date, if possible. That's possible, yeah, no problem. I'll be gone. Yeah, I'll be gone in October from like the 10th to the 22nd. That's when I go over hunting and that's when I go over. They do some work and research with the Bigfoot family that's over there. Yeah, we definitely need to continue this. I feel you have probably some of the most detailed information I've ever heard.
Starting point is 01:36:44 But thank you so much for sharing what you've learned so far. And I look forward to chatting with you at a future date as well, Lynn. Okay. I had fun. It's all for to help you and others understand Bigfoot. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch,
Starting point is 01:37:10 or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about, and if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search-and-rescue responder, who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field or trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract,
Starting point is 01:37:54 who has found evidence you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat, and you saw something that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous, you can reach me at bigfoot society at gmail.com.
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