Bigfoot Society - He Saw a Gray Bigfoot in Ocean Shores—Then It Got Closer

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

Russell Wiitala went looking for Bigfoot nearly 20 years ago. Eventually, something started answering back.In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Russell takes us deep into his experiences across Washington and the Pacific Northwest, beginning with strange tracks, powerful odors, unexplained knocks, and vocalizations in the Willapa Hills.Then the encounters get closer.Russell describes a January 2025 trip to Ocean Shores, Washington, where he spotted a figure standing beside the road before daylight. When he and his friend returned to investigate, his friend saw a gray-haired figure attempting to hide among the trees in a swamp.Russell also shares years of experiences throughout the Olympic Peninsula and Wynoochee area: long screams echoing across valleys, rocks striking tents, strange voices in the forest, possible juvenile Sasquatch activity, trees coming down, unexplained gifts, and something descending a ridge and entering his campsite while he listened from inside his tent.Some of Russell’s later experiences move into even stranger territory. He describes possible cloaking, mind-speak, unusual dreams, unexplained physical sensations, and his belief that certain locations may play a role in Sasquatch activity.After nearly two decades of searching across four states and more than 30 areas, Russell has developed a very different understanding of what may be living in these forests.This is one of those Bigfoot Society conversations that keeps getting stranger the deeper it goes.Listen through the end and decide for yourself what Russell encountered in the woods.Locations discussed include Raymond, the Willapa Hills, Ocean Shores, Wynoochee, the Olympic Peninsula, Lake Cushman, Staircase, and other areas of the Pacific Northwest.Resources: Russell’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Sasquatch-Shaman-Woods-Russell-Wiitala-ebook/dp/B09LTH43L9 https://www.youtube.com/@SasquatchShamanoftheWoods

You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey, please go to the Caring Bridge link in the show notes.

Thank you. All right, Bigfoot Society, but the privilege of talking to Russell today, Russell is an individual I got connected to, and he has been involved with the subject of Sasquatch. He's been searching for Sasquatch since around 2007. So welcome to the show, Russell. How are we doing today? Thank you. I'm doing great. Awesome.

Great to hear. It's a great day. Man, 2007, believe it or not, but that is about almost 20 years ago. Yes. So I would imagine you have been through some interesting, interesting things. But can you take us back to, was there a certain instance or something that brought you into? the Bigfoot subject to begin with. What was the catalyst for you?

Yes. Well, Bigfoot wasn't even in my head. And back in 2007, I was taking a walk with a friend of mine. And he asked me, did you hear about the family that saw the Sasquatch up here? And well, he probably said Bigfoot, you know. And immediately I looked at him and I went, what? And then the next thing out of my mouth is, do you want to go looking for Sasquatch? and so that's what started it.

And then we started going out. I went out two, three times a week. Sometimes he was with me, but a lot of times I was alone. I went all over, you know, I live in southwest Washington, so all over basically southwest Washington, I was going and looking for them.

And we just figured, you know, they must be in the worst place possible be, you know, a place that humans wouldn't go. So that's where we were going, you know, really difficult spots. And for four years, we found one possible print in four years. And it was in the bottom of a water pool. It was about, it was good size. It was, you know, 16 to 18 inches. I'm not sure, but it couldn't cast it. I think I did take some video of it. But that was it. In four years, nothing and then and then I started thinking to myself that maybe because I was so confident that I could find him you know I thought anybody can I can because my

brain's so weird but I lost my confidence in that and started thinking that maybe this was beyond me maybe I'm not up to it and as soon as I had that thought I had my first encounter and which is like within five miles of here on top of a hill I was hiking up the hill when was coming down from the hill and I smelled this awful smell it smelled like something dead and I expected to see a carcass you know but there was no carcass and I kept hiking and hiking and there is still no carcass and I knew okay this is not right you know when you smell a carcass you come upon it pretty quickly usually and so then I got back I got on top of a ridge where there was a clear-cut

but just a small patch of trees up there. And I was standing looking around the clear cut for something. And I heard three knocks over by where the small patch of trees were. So I thought to myself, well, okay, this is what you're here for. This is what you've been looking for. So, you know, I gathered myself and went over there. And when I got over there, I didn't see anything. But I did get a couple light widths of that dead thing.

And then I knew what had happened. I mean, in the interim, I had read all these things, you know, all your coals. And I knew about the smell and all that. And so I rushed back home and called my friend, who's also named Russell. And I called him and told him, I said, hey, I just had an incident. And I'm pretty sure it was an interaction and I think I can find them. I don't know why, but I regained my confidence all of a sudden. But I went on Google Earth and to tell you the truth, at this time, at that time I thought, you know, I put together these parameters.

You know, every animal needs water. Every animal needs shelter. You know, these parameters I put together and I thought, okay, all these things have to be present. And then they'll be there maybe. maybe so so I looked on Google Earth and to tell you the truth I think I divined it more than anything and I found a spot and I said okay we're going to go there and look and when we got above that spot there was a landing down below where we're going to look you know where I thought they were close to that landing but when we were on top of the ridge before we

went down we stopped to just take a look at the valley and this is in the Wilpaw Hills and there were these indentations, these deep indentations, where there had been logs lifted, but there were no logs. And it was obvious that no equipment went in there and grabbed those logs. Well, these logs were heavy. They were waterlogged, old, you know, sitting there for a long time. That's what made the deep indentations. And then we thought we found a couple prints around them.

And I came to the conclusion it was too, brushy to sea down below, but I just came to the conclusion that they had tossed them off the ridge. So anyway, we went down to landing, and I made a call, and we heard some noise down below us movement. And, you know, I said, well, that could be an elk. It could be anything. It could be a bear. You know, who knows what it is. And that was about it for the first time. And then the second time I believe we got Knox. I'd have to refer to my book for that because I've forgotten a lot of these things. You know, I journal every day and stuff happens all the time.

So I forget a lot of details. So that's the importance of keeping a journal, by the way. I would say 100%. I bring that up all the time on the show. If people are experiencing weird stuff at home or Sasquatch activity, you have to journal it because you will forget most of it. And when you reread it, you'll make connections. Wilpaw Hills, is that, is that, that's an area I'm not familiar with.

Is that by Mount St. Helens or is it further west? No, it's, yeah, it's further west. It's, it's, I live in Raymond Washington, which is about 20 miles from the beach. And Willpa Hills are just up the valley for me. In fact, I'm actually in the valley right now. Oh, I got it. So, yeah, that's, that's almost like you're over by. Um,

South about it. Yeah, yeah, Long Beach. It's, it's north east of Long Beach. That's right. We're in the same time. There's activity down there. Oh, boy, is there? Oh, is there?

I mean, I've gotten one report back a few years ago, but it sounds like you are pretty familiar with that, that area. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'd be interested in this report, actually. So, uh, I mean, if you know, do you know right now? Yeah, so plug for the website, Bigfoot Society Podcast.com, I make a Google map of everyone I've ever talked to. And this particular, it's an episode 835. Guy was staying in a coastal house, looked out from an upstairs window.

He observed a large gray creature with long arms, massive shoulders. They made eye contact and then it turned and walked away into the forest. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, pretty cool one. But yeah, that's one you can actually listen to the gentleman share his experience in 835. So there you go, man. But wow, I've heard so many weird things from, I mean, ocean shores. I'm sure you're familiar with that.

There's so many strange things over in ocean shores. A gray one there. Really? And ocean shores. Okay. So this is well, this will tell you somewhat our connection. We have a very strong connection. and they were seeing them in ocean shores.

I think they're harvesting the deer there because this place is just packed with deer. You can't drive down the road without breaking for a deer sooner or later. You know, that's how many deer there are right in ocean shores. And there are several people who had incidents. You know, they'd seen them. And one talked about one harvesting a deer on their property and that kind of thing. And so through another connection, I was asked to give a presentation there at Ocean Shores. And this was, I can tell you the exact date, it was January 18th, 2025.

And I and my friend Russell Wilson, not the quarterback, we took off early from my house to go do that presentation. And so it was still dark out when we hit, you know, January 18th. You know, it was still dark out when we hit Ocean Shores. Well, just past the exit for the casino, there was a Sasquatch standing right next to the road. Drove by, and I asked my buddy, did you see that? He goes, no. And I went, oh, okay. Well, there was a truck right behind me, so I didn't stop and swing around or anything.

We just kept going. And usually when you do that, they're gone anyway. So almost always. anytime I've done it. So we drove to McDonald's, had breakfast, and then by then it's getting light. So I wanted to drive back and see if there was a statue there, you know, because it was right next to the casino exit. So I thought, well, you know, maybe they put a Sasquot statue right there, although it was really close to the road. It didn't make sense to me, but we drove back and there was no statue. And then my friend who was gazing into, you know, there's just like these thin trees right

in a swamp on the other side. And he saw it. He saw it standing there. And, you know, in my interpretation, when we went by it, it was really dark, the hair. But he saw it when it got light and he said, yeah, it has gray hair. But he said it was kind of funny because he was hiding behind a little thin tree. And he said, like his heads behind the tree, but his body's sticking out on both sides. So as soon as he saw it, it wasn't very far. It was like 200, 300 yards to the exit for the casino.

So I whipped around real quick and we went back and he was gone. Wow. And this just happened in 2025. Mm-hmm. Oh, my goodness. You hear so much, so many things over the years. I mean, I talked to a gentleman named Lynn Gasper and he had an experience out in Ocean Shores in 59. And then, I mean, I believe there's even Copalice Beach has documented things that have happened up there, which is just just north.

Do you think it's mainly the deer that are bringing them to this area? Or is there any other reason that there's so much activity out there? Well, it could be going for the shellfish too. Oh, yeah. Because I just heard a report, my next door neighbor, you know, relative or friend, I can't remember. but he told me this about two months ago that he was driving down near Nima and went crossed the road and I just assume it's going to get a harvest, you know, of some sort. They crossed the road there to go over to the bay and harvest clams or oysters, that sort of thing.

And I found, by the way, I've found oyster shell and clam shell, sorry about that. way up in the woods you know uh maybe people are taking them up there and eat them eating them you know but uh a couple of those i wonder about because they don't make sense but they're way up there you know uh so i don't know maybe they got a bag that's that's very very interesting you hear stuff like that stuff out in the woods it just doesn't doesn't belong so you had the sighting in 25 was there uh I think in this field, I talk to people and I even experience this myself. There's always a pretty substantial thing that happens that really kicks you over into way past 100%.

Yes, they're real. Was that, is that a situation we've already talked about? Or is there one that comes to mind that really launched you? Yeah, that was the original family that we originally, that we, ended up calling the beko clan and uh we kept going out there and heard knocks and then uh one night we're out there we decided to camp out and so we set up her tents and i made a scream and it was about five minutes later well it was actually yeah it was quite a few minutes later because uh we got some pork and beans and hot dogs and so i fixed them and and and uh we ate them and

And it was right after that, that we got a scream back. And he was about, I'd say two miles away. But he filled that whole valley. And he sustained his scream, you know, for like over 12 seconds. It was insane amount of time. And when I screamed, the coyote started up. When he screamed, everything in the valley went quiet, dead quiet. Deep respect.

Those coyotes shut really up, really quick. So that's Beko. And I'm really not sure where that family is now, but it was a family of five because we're trying to figure out, okay, we found him. Now what do we do? Well, that first night when he screamed back and then we detected him coming closer, I asked my friend, what do you want to do? And he says, let's get out of here. And so we just grabbed our gear and threw it in and put anything away, you know, just as soon as, stuffed it in my Subaru and took out of there.

But then I went back and we're persistent. We set up a camp again. And that time he came into the camp. I heard some pebbles hit in my tent. But I drank some beer that night, which I don't do a lot of us. So, you know, I thought, oh, well, you know, if he hasn't killed us by now, he's not going to kill us. So I just went to bed. And plus, I've done a lot of studies.

So I wasn't really afraid of them that much, you know, at that point in time. So that's what happened. And then my friend heard it walking around the tent. And we got up and we couldn't find any prints or anything, but there was some puke. It had grubbed this stump nearby and puked. And I could tell it was the same, you know, it was the color, the same color as the stump, the puke was. So then we're still trying to figure out what to do. So I took out this little thing that I whirl around my head, you know, sounds like a UFO.

I thought, this might entertain him. Let's do this. And he says, nope, didn't work. They scrambled. So I said, okay, well, we'll think of something else. And, of course, I'm a musician. So I thought, well, maybe I read about this woman who played a flute for one, you know, and actually didn't want her to stop,

get growling at her when she tried to stop, you know. And so I thought, well, I'll take my guitar out there and just play some music. And the first time I played my guitar and was putting it back in my Subaru in the back of the Subaru, I heard what sounded like a 10-year-old girl right over my left shoulder go, oh, I mean, seriously. It gave me a huge chill. I woke up my buddy because he was sleeping in the chair. I told him, okay, now I know what to do.

So we started playing for him. And I took other musicians out to other, not to that group, but his daughter eventually came out with us. And she saw, I think she saw one out there part the brush. I don't know if she saw it or not, but she saw the brush part. And I saw a young, I think I saw the one that said, oh, taking out from behind a tree real quick. And so eventually I started a smoky fire and it went right down into where they were staying.

And they got upset and he started whistling. And the boys surrounded us. There were two boys, him and the youngest was the girl and the mom. And they always stayed on one side. And the male and the two boys stayed on the other side. But anyway, they went up in the, you know, perches above us and and called. out sort of like a coyote call and then he pushed down a tree and okay okay well you know maybe they're not happy with that fire and so from then on uh for a long time i didn't start any fires

when i went out uh but anyway uh so that i we didn't go back there for like 13 months but in the interim i thought well i found that one maybe i can find some more So I started going other places, including the Olympics, and it seemed like everywhere I went, I got interaction. They would come and they would call. And it was just crazy. I found like six families in six months, you know. So that's fun.

That is fantastic. Were you using your guitar at all of the different situations? Yeah. I always play my guitar. And I play my drum too. Now, I got an elk drum, and they like it. I know they like it because they've let me know, you know, I call them right after I shut down, you know.

So they like the elk drum as well. So I do that first, usually, and then I play the guitar. Sometimes I pick the drum up again. So, yeah, I do those two things. Everywhere I go. It's a tradition. It's my gift to them because I know they like it. One time, in fact, another clan, one of those.

that I found in the six months, which isn't that far away from here, but in a different location. Anyway, might not even be in this county. It might be just outside this county. But anyway, I brought a couple up there that were, you know, she was a singer, he was a guitar player, and they did a song so beautifully, and we're up there. And we hear this baby scream in delight, enjoyed it so much that she just had a scream. That was kind of cool. And they were very close. You know, these, I mean, they're close enough, uh, where we can hear them talk.

We can hear them talking to each other. But I've never been able to get a good recording. I don't, I don't really have that good of recording equipment. But I want to tell you, uh, how I turn from, uh, a researcher to just a friend. I would love that. Yeah. Yeah, because for the first two years, you know, that's what I was doing. I was trying to analyze and putting cameras out and, you know, taking material to make casts and stuff like that.

But there was this one hike that I'd go on, and it was, you know, a pretty grueling hike. And at the top of the peak, there is a stump and a big rock sitting on top of the stump. And when I saw it, I just thought, I don't bet Sasquatch did that. You know, I just had a feeling. And so I thought, well, I'll pick up a rock and put it next to it. You know, that represents me. So I put the rock on top. And I go up there next time and my rocks off.

Put another rock on. Next time, rocks off. Okay, this time I'm going to put a big rock. One that the wind won't blow off because that's what, you know, I thought maybe the wind was blowing it off. So I put a big rock up. and that rock completely disappeared. It wasn't anywhere to be found. And then I heard this, it sounded like a man,

but he was pleading with me. I could tell it was a plead, you know, and it touched me. And I thought, oh, this rock is important. And I thought, I think this rock is a memorial. What made me think that? But that's what I thought. I took my hat off.

I gave it respects. And then the next time, time out, they left me this, heart. That's incredible. It does look like a heart. Doesn't it? Wow. That's the first thing I thought before you said that, man. Yeah. So I want to tell you something about this heart, though. This is crazy. So I take this heart home. And I think of another item that I found a few years before. I knew it was important, but I didn't know why. I hit it in my roll top desk and it sat in there for years. And it's this. I know it doesn't look like much, It actually has a perfect carving of a flying saucer on it.

And you might be able to see there's like a glowing figure there. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, it's surrounded. So I took these two things, items when I got home and I meditated with them. And I had a zero gravity chair leaning up against my wall. And my cat jumped up on the bed when I was like five minutes. it's in a meditation and something was above me. I saw it, you know, I had my eyes closed,

but I could still see it, which is weird, but it's like a black blob and flew and hit the wall and knocked over my zero gravity chair. My cat took off. I jumped out of bed, you know, I had an adrenaline rush. And I said, don't you ever scare my cat again or else? I don't know what I was going to do. But anyway, that was the first time I meditated with it.

But after that, they charged this thing up with something. I don't know, but for like 13 or 14 months after that in the morning, like it still be dark out, I get, I'm an early riser. And I'd reach for my glasses and these blue bolts would come off and reach and touch my glasses before I got to them. Very crazy. And that slowly wore out. You know, it was like they had a battery.

It was charged. And now it's not. But about last year, I think it cracked. Made a loud crack. I take all these things to bed to see. So I meditate with them and they just stay in bed with me. But right next to my head, this thing, I think it was this one. Anyway, crack.

Wow. Real loud crack. So, yeah, that's just one incident. And this whole thing just turned metaphysical. Once I engaged with them as a friend, I just opened myself up and I said, hey, what do you have to show me? You know, what can you show me? When you said you open yourself up and you're you're saying that, are you saying that

verbally out loud or is this like an internal conversation? Internal. And in fact, I'll tell you a story that just happened about three weeks ago. I got a bunch of feathers, you know, that I've received for as giz. And I was looking at them, gazing at him. And I thought, geez, it's been quite a while since I've gotten a feather for a gift, you know. I know they haven't forgotten about me, but I haven't gotten a feather for a gift for quite a while. I love getting them for gifts.

You know, it's kind of cool. So the next morning, I'm hiking. And this is on YouTube, by the way. I put this on YouTube. I got the short version. I'm going to put a longer version on there. But anyway, I'm walking down the road. And there's a washed out area, a real steep.

incline, you know, washed out. But there's a log sitting there that's horizontal. It's like, that doesn't make sense, you know. But when I got closer, I saw that it was being held up by four sticks. And in the top, it was my feather. Oh, man. Wow. That's absolutely incredible, Russell.

So it sounds like most of this time, it's been you and other Russell. And then at times you're bringing in people. Well, that hasn't really worked. I took four people out the other night. They'd shut down. Okay. You know, they make your choice. They read your energy.

They decide what to do. I don't think they wanted that. It was an experiment. I didn't know, you know, well, I didn't know two of the people. One of them, I guess I met when he was a kid. He remembered me, but I went camping with him and another buddy at one time, but I couldn't remember him, but he was there. I found when you go out and trying to have connection, you have other people with you.

It's very important to do your homework before you bring people into these areas. Because you want to make sure they have the right intention. Yeah. You have the wrong person come in that could really mess up the whole thing and have for a long time, really. I asked for guidance when I found out. on that feather. When I asked for guidance, usually I don't get any, you know, but on that case, I got up to the stop sign. I was going to turn left and something told me, oh, you got to turn right. Got you go this way. And then I got the thought, oh, I haven't been to Smith Creek for quite

some times. I'm going to hike up Smith Creek, you know, and that's what happened. And I don't mind mentioning these places because you're not going to find them. You don't find that. That was the first lesson. Four years of nothing. You know, that was, hey, you don't find us. We find you when it's time. And to them, I think time is kind of somewhat nonlinear to the truth from some of the things I've gotten through. Has there been a certain experience that's led you to believe that?

Oh, yeah. You mean time nonlinear? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This is not exactly about time, but I've had time dilation.

Like I watched a football game in 17 minutes once. You know, crazy. I watched Jupiter rise above the horizon and go down and come up three times, one time. Out my kitchen show right over here. So that would be time manipulation. And I'm not sure. exactly how they do these things, of course. But one time I was hiking up there in the Willpaw Hills, and I was on this ridge, and I heard a tree go down on another ridge, and I knew, oh, that's my

teacher. I have one I call teacher. That's the one that left me the feather, by the way. He and his daughter's daughter's name is Candace. I'd named her Candice. Doesn't have a mate. She died tragically. But anyway, so I knew he wanted me up there. So it was too far to go that day. So I waited until the next day and I hiked up there. And about that time, you know, I was asking for a print because I hadn't seen a print for a while. You just kind of like to see these things once in a while, you know. And in frozen, it was frozen at that time.

And in frozen leaves, there were three prints. That's also in my book, by the way, that picture of one of them. And so then I get up on the ridge and I'm looking around. I wonder why he wanted me up here, you know. I don't see the tree that's pushed down, of course. I've only found those very rarely. I'm looking around. I see these three trees standing, mature, kind of standing alone,

and then there's this kind of leaner that goes, you know, crossed that way. But on one of the trees was this symbol, weird symbol. someone like someone had taken a hatchet and shipped out four or five across and five or six down right and then underneath it looked like an elk horn two of the two of the horns had made a little like round symbol thing sort of you know like that just a curve and i thought wow what the and it's in a spot you know where like a human can't just go over there and chip it because it's like off the ground 15 feet and you know uh elk didn't do that you know i just couldn't get there uh so i took a picture of it of course and i was going to go visit my friend

joe hauser he owns the montana vortex right in house history and so you really soon after so i thought okay i'm going to show it to him because he's an animal expert maybe there's some weird animal out there that does this stuff i i didn't think so but you know I just thought it would be fun to show it to him and see what his opinion would be so just a couple days before I took off for Montana I would I checked my camera to see that picture again it wasn't there I went what how is that picture not there so I thought well I know where the tree is I'll just go up there and take another picture and so I hike back up there and all three of those

trees, including the leaner, were gone. Like they never existed. There was no stump. Nobody had cut them. And that place, that was before it was logged. You know, since then, it's been logged. But anyway, that was the Mandela effect. It's fascinating.

And the other thing that happened during that time is there used to be, I remember it so well, which is weird, but I remember this hike I used to. to go on, you know? And it was on a on a power line, not there anymore. So that's that, uh, that that's just one of the weird things they've shown me. They got lots of these powers. And the reason why I wanted me up on that ridge, I'm sure is because there's like some sort of, uh, demarcation line for a vortex field or something like that there because one day I was hiking. I was hiking on a kind of a parallel road. You know, I wasn't on the, I was on a parallel road.

And all of a sudden, my steps felt like I was walking through water for about three steps. And then it went away. And I've been through that area several times, but never experienced that again. But, yeah. Okay. So do you think, has there been a time where you have experienced, most people in the community would say, like a portal or, or, you know, anything like that in the same area yeah oh no not in the same area no this happened to me down in oregon here's another story for you okay so i went down to uh cottage grove to watch there we go

yeah yeah you know here we go right yeah right yeah it's it's famous for this but anyway i went down there to uh kind of i putook in the in the uh the podcast a little bit you know uh so i I guess I'm on it, but I never watched it. But anyway, right after it, it was about noon, and I took off for Florence, Oregon, which is due west on the coast. But there were no signs, you know, so I didn't know. And my map, it didn't show any of the roads on my map. So I just thought, oh, well, I'll just go west. You know, I'll just keep going west.

I'll run into a highway or something sooner or later. This is what I would call a country road. It was almost a highway, but not. but I only saw like two cars in 45 minutes driving on it. So I'm driving along and this is funny because Joe Houser had he had posted a picture of a grizzly and her cubs that I assume he took. And I thought, wow, that's cool. I haven't seen a bear for a while. So I had that in my head, right?

I come around a corner and there's a black bear coming towards me, right? And I hit my brakes because I don't want to hit it. I don't know what it's going to do, you know? And so I start hitting my brakes and it cut right in front of me, leaped. And it was like there was an invisible door there just disappeared. Really? And midair? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And there was nothing on the slope. And I couldn't see a, you know, like a portal. I really couldn't see anything there. So I stopped and this looked at it for about five minutes thinking, what? How did they do that? Did they train a bear or did they like maybe rerun some sort of clip from a time before when a bear did that, you know?

And, you know, that's what was going through my head. But since then, and in fact, in Rob Alley's, one of his books, I read about three Native Americans. I believe they're Native Americans. And they were up there in Canada or Alaska and they're tooling along in a boat. and they see this dude walking along the shoreline that, you know, they're thinking, what's that guy doing over there that doesn't make sense, you know? There's nobody on that island. There's nothing to see or harvest on that island.

Maybe he got stuck, you know, maybe his boat's broken down or something. And he's just walking along the shore. And so they start tooling over that way. And when they get closer, they realize, oh, that's a Sasquatch. They just keep going because they're on the water, you know, and he's on the shore. So they're going to get a good close look. When they get close enough, all three of these guys said the same thing. He morphed into an otter and just kept walking.

Oh, no way. Yeah, totally. Like, Custica stuff. Yeah. So now I believe that what I witnessed was a shape-shifting Sasquatch. It looked really real. It really did. I mean, it was ran right in front of my car.

It was just so close, you know. Wow. that dude that is wild um for just for me um so you were in cottage grove to record a podcast you weren't out there looking in the woods because there's a lot of weird stuff that goes on i just went there to watch a podcast but i ended up kind of in it a little bit but yeah i gotcha was that tobe johnson back in the day yep yeah yeah that he had some really his his old podcast is was great you can still find it on youtube it's good stuff he's a great guy My goodness. So you've mentioned that it sounds like the main Sasquatch that you connect with is you call teacher. What do you think the most important thing you've been taught over the years is?

I don't know. Boy, that's a tough question. I just, I think basically it's, I can feel their compassion and their love. You know, they've shown nothing but respect to me. And so I appreciate that greatly. But I want to make one more mention about what I found out later. Yes. After that portal thing. So at the time I was reading this book called The Golden Vortex, which I had, which Joe had given me at when I left, he gave me that and another book called 216. It was actually a pamphlet. And they're both authored by this guy named Nick Nelson.

and I was reading it at the time. And when that happened, I thought maybe I was on a demarcation line for one of these regional vortexes that he had charted in his book. So I looked, yes, I was on a regional vortex where the center is between Climuth Falls and Crater Lake. So it's a huge one. It stretches way down to California. Well, Nick Nelson had a story about that vortex too.

that demarcation line he was going to reno with a friend and they had just left a restaurant and checked his watch you know how much time you know because they're they're going all the way to reno from bellingham or wherever he lived back then and so uh they left and uh suddenly there are a hundred miles down the road and he pulls over and asks his buddy you know what just happened and his buddy goes i'm not sure did we pass this did we pass this did we pass this that we that new wow well that happened that happened on the same demarcation line but it was in california it was way down by pleasantville and mine happened you know actually i think i was a little west north northwest of cottage grove at the time so very interesting so i'm i'm not familiar

with that term myself is it is this close to like when people talk about lay lines or is completely different. Yeah. Well, laylines are, I think, are global. And Vortexes create their own laylines, but they're circular around them. Okay. Yeah. Interesting.

Yeah. They're circular and they rotate. You know, the one in Montana Vortex rotates counterclockwise. A lot of people can feel it. I couldn't feel it. By the way, when I went there,

we went out at night and doors were opening and shutting and and uh like you could hear the sound of doors opening and shutting or oh yeah one i saw i was actually after he went to bed i was about to go to bed he allowed me to tent in a vortex it's never done that before since i don't think so anyway i was in in you know the the guests what were the you know the people that visit you know i'm i'm in there uh getting doing my business and the door opens and closes i don't know if they're coming or gone so i just said hello you know but uh yeah yeah i recorded that night too and there was all kinds of noises and doors closing and opening and stuff but uh that highway is so distracting that i just i dumped it you know i mean who wants to just hear that

Interesting. You brought up the Klamath Crater Lake area. And that's an area of Oregon I haven't been to yet. But the stuff that I get from that area is absolutely intense. Prospect, Union Creek. There's a lot of wild stuff that happens over there. And then I just had a conversation about ongoing stuff. And I can say the Klamath region. And so you're saying that that's a pretty charged up area. Yeah, there's actually more than one vortex there. Really? In Nick's book, yeah, he mentions another vortex in the area, but it's underwater now because they put a dam in. So the center of that is in water. But I was led to the center of a vortex by Sasquatch up in the Olympics. It took them two years to get me there.

You know, I just followed tree breaks and, you know, I just followed him and followed him. And then finally after two years, I got way up there. And I saw a tree with a bunch of breaks. And I thought, oh, this might be the place. So I set up my tent. And this was about noon. And they came and they got so excited. They were yelling and making all kinds of noise.

And I thought, wow. I mean, that's crazy because, first of all, it's midday. And there was a road crew working on the forest road like 200 yards away from my my site where I was camped. And so I thought, they're on their lunch break. All their equipment shut down. I know they can hear them. I just wonder what they thought.

Oh, my goodness. So at times, you're finding these vortexes out in the woods. And when you get into the middle of these areas, you're then having encounters or you're having visual encounters? No. When you're in a new or a vortex, nothing happens. But they got to be in the middle of that, the reason. And the reason is, okay, I didn't know we were going to talk about this, but I had it just in case. The reason is, so the Montana vortex is over here.

Oh, boy. All right. I'm going to hold this up. Montana vortex is over here, you know, off that way. Oh, I think it's upside down, actually. Oh, it was 441 miles to this, to the point where. Well, actually, yeah, to the Olympic vortex, right? 4-4-1 was a very important number for me because I'd had the number 327 for a long time.

I didn't know why. And then I started looking this. I was compelled to look on Google Earth and take measurements and angles and stuff. You know, who does that? But I was. and I figured out that my house is 57 miles from the center of the Olympic vortex. But it's at an angle of 114 degrees from the Montana vortex. 57 plus 57 is 114.

What is 57? It's the radius of a 360 degree circle. In this case, we're talking 360 miles, right? So, yeah, and so, and it cuts, it just cut 1.8 miles south of the center of the Seattle vortex and 57 miles from it, as charted by Nick Nelson, but I think he was off by 1.8 miles. I think it was right online. And the reason why I say that is just this happened just the other day.

I was inspired. I thought, you know, because I, at the time when this happened, I didn't have a, you know, any kind of way to do this. So I drew two circles around the Seattle vortex and the Olympic vortex. Can you put it a little bit higher? Sorry. Just a little bit higher up. Perfect. And then what happened is it formed the Vesca Pisces, you know, which is just the oldest symbol you can find on Earth.

And if you keep making circles, of course, you make the flower of life. And then you can make any configuration from that. So when I discovered that, and I get these buzzes from them, you know, like when they're close, they'll buzzes. me it's from saskwash it's a different than a chill yeah it's a buzz and uh when i discovered that the other day i got a buzz can you that's really that's really fascinating so um is that can you can you describe what that feels like or is it a certain part of of you it's my whole body my hair will stand up uh people have seen my hair stand up when they've been cloaked and close i've shown it to them you know uh on camps

you know, on campouts, you know, I've got a couple of them from the people from Ocean Shores went out of a couple of those. And one time someone was leaving and she was getting ready to leave and I walked by her pickup truck as she's loading it. And I got that buzz and I told her, oh, they're right here. They're right here. They're right here. They're sticking with you. And I went up to my car. I got something. And when it came back, it happened again. I showed everybody the hair standing up on my arms and my legs. So, yeah, so I think they send it to me. I don't think I just detect them that way because I know I've been close to them and I haven't felt that, you know. Gotcha. And so just to make sure I'm on the right path, so vortex and portal, not necessarily

the same thing. Well, the portals are on the, on the demarcation lines of the vortex. See, like I showed you that that circle my house is sitting right on one of those circles and that's a demarcation line so my house is charged all kinds of stuff happens here and it turns out it turns out I think well I'm sure of it they guided me to my house I had two offers to buy this house and I've lived here for 41 years two offers to buy this house from two people that didn't know each other and that's the only time that's Wow, was that just recently or? I was 41 years ago.

Oh, 41 years ago. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. My goodness. The whole Bigfoot and Portals thing, it's a thing that comes up in, it's come up a few times. Skinwalker Ranch, they said they saw one come through one. There's the Dr. Matthew Johnson story about Oregon somewhere.

that's a fascinating account. And then there's a BFRO, well, there's an individual that was on a BFRO expedition, and they wrote down the account of an individual that had a portal experience with a Sasquatch on Saddle Blanket Mountain out in Oak Ridge, Oregon. So it comes up at times, and it's very, very interesting. I want to make sure, I know you have a list of all. different things that you've written down. Are there anything on that list that you would want to make sure that you share? Because I could probably just ask you questions all day long, but I know

you've got some important information. I've got 36 things on this list. Let's look right here. So we covered shape shifting. Oh, numerous cloaking. So out hiking, you know, one day. And I believe this was my teacher as well. He's shown me most of his things. That's why I call him teacher. And I heard something, I was hiking along and I heard something big coming out of the brush. And I thought I spooked an elk, you know, or maybe a bear. But anyway, before I even got my head turned that far, it went by me. But I didn't see anything.

But I felt the pressure on my face change. Big, massive. And then total silence. I stood there for two minutes to see if I could hear anything or if you'd move or anything else would happen. Nothing happened. So I just went ahead on my hike. That is some wild stuff. I mean, it's, you're right.

Once you are at the point where, and it sounded like for you, it was, hey, just want to be friends. You open yourself up. I mean, that's when you start experiencing stuff. it's not when you're out there like hey let's get let's get the sounds recorded let's get the tracks recorded that's yeah you're not gonna you're not gonna have it you're poking at it yeah i don't know well you don't go into someone's house without being invited you know sure you ring the door you knock on the door and then if they like it they'll invite you in you know uh same same thing with them they assess everybody they they can read your power and i or you know you're

You know, everybody has this energy. They can read your energy field and make a determination from that, I think, is part of it. I'm not sure. I don't know all these things, but that's just kind of a guess. Oh, yeah, there's something else. I see telekinesis. Yeah. So one time I'm hiking out there, dead quiet, no wind.

And I come to this pond, and it just starts to get turbulent. kind of wild. So then a few days later, I go back out there again, and there was a tree pushed down right where I had that experience. So it was, yeah, it was us. You know, that's basically what they were saying. Okay. Yeah.

I've also had one talk to me from behind a bush one time. That one I call CC. He's crazy. But that stands for Cedar. crow. But anyway, yeah, I went hiking. This was up in Wainucci. And I started hiking from the dam. And I thought I heard a voice. And I stopped and turned around and looked. And that's crazy. Maybe it was just in my head or whatever. I don't know. But glitch, you know. So I went hiking. And I didn't come back for like two and a half hours. And when I came back by that same push, he talked to me again. It was just really low, you know, like that, very low voice.

And so I stopped, and at that time, this is early on. You know, I just figured out they were there, and I didn't know that there were more than one family there. I mean, there's like three families in a loner, you know, spread out. And they like to move from valley to valley. That's what I discovered, because I couldn't find him in one valley, so I'd go to the next valley. So I go to the next valley, then I go to the next valley, and there they are, you know, all the way over to Lake Cushman staircase. So they're spread out. But they kind of travel together.

But anyway, so I'm walking by that bush, and I just put a hand up on my heart, and I said, you know, I don't want to push myself on you guys. And I don't want to disturb you. I just thought maybe we'd be friends. and he took it to heart. C.C. is a very good friend of mine. Very good friend. So what were some things then that happened that made you realize that, okay, I asked him, let's be friends, and he's definitely taken me up on that? Oh, well, okay, well, the next thing that happened, and she said, I wish I'd looked out the window.

But I was in my tent near the lake. Pushman. No, this was Wynucci. Gotcha. Thank you. And I thought that I was going to, it was early in the season. You know, it was early April. And the weather was really great.

It was really warm. But it was also a weekday. And I thought, well, nobody's going to come. I got it all to myself. I'm finally going to. camp next to the lake because they usually don't because there's the people too many people you know well i was wrong these three girls come and they can't uh down from me on the road and i can actually see their tents from my my place you know from where i'm at and then another guy comes and

he camps beyond them and uh so i just thought oh well nothing's going to happen tonight but i'll do my usual I'll play my guitar. And in fact, I got some applause from the girls after I made a song. But anyway, yeah. So then I go to bed. I'm laying in my tent. And I hear this male way up on a ridge line, you know, sounded like a juvenile, doing this chant, this four-part chant.

It's like he was like animals, but he was changing his, you know, each animal with each verbalization. So it was one, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. Well, that's most of my songs are, you know, four or four times. So it made sense, right? Anyway, and I'm laughing about it because I'm thinking, God, I know those girls can hear that.

I just wonder if they have any idea what that is. And then next thing I know, he's making a bee line at my tent. Coming right down off the ridge. Come in. Oh, my gosh. And I wasn't prepared for that, you know. I actually at that time, yeah, that was actually, at that time I didn't know that that clan knew me, you know. I knew one clan knew, but I didn't know that clan knew, but I figured out that was CC.

So it must have been later that that he talked to me from behind the bush, not I think about it. But anyway, he came down and I could, you know, hear him shuffling. He was shuffling when he got into my campsite and doing the chant. And he came around my Subaru, and I know he checked to see if I had my window open, my flap open on my tent is what I figured. And then he went back around the car or came right at my tent somewhere. I don't really remember whether he went around my car, but I think he did. And the first thing I thought was he went and checked to see if those girls were still up too.

So and they were all in their tents. So then he came right at my tent and I thought he was going to come right in front of my windows. I'm staring out my window, you know. And there was a blue, like the trees were blue from the full moon. It was just an awesome night, man, unbelievable night. And he went behind my tent. And there was hardly any room to go behind my tent. It was sucked up against a tree, but he went behind my tent.

So I didn't even see his shadow. I just heard him go behind my tent. and I'm staring out the window. But if I looked out the window earlier when he, you know, checked from behind the Subaru, I would have seen him from like 15 feet away. It's unfortunate that I didn't get up and look because I wished I had now. But anyway, then he went all the way back up the ridge chanting that. An unbelievable amount of endurance, you know, that it would take for a human couldn't do it.

That's for sure. Went all the way back up on that ridge. Because those, I mean, those hills there are very steep around Wainucci. Yeah. I've heard that. Yeah. It's a different ballgame. And you have, what's that?

There's a one pass out there. There's always a ton of activity. Snow calm. No snow qualmi. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's actually north of Seattle. Or east of Seattle, sort of. Northeast of Seattle, I think.

Let me look real quick. Maybe you're thinking it's Kokomish, which is also very active. That might be it. Yeah, that's actually northwest of Sheldon. And that is very active. And yes, they're there. They come there periodically. You know, they move around.

And I think for resources, you know, yeah. There's something else I wanted to talk about that, too, that same clan. So I named them all up there. Well, the ones that interact with me anyway, there's Jacques and Peter and CC, and then there's a young one, Alice. One night I'm playing the guitar. At first, I play the drum. And I put the drumstick, you know, I got a little thing that you put the drumstick so it doesn't fall out readily. And then I leaned it up against this cedar, this fallen cedar that was there. And I told him, I sent him a message. I'm not going to open my eyes and I got rock clacks that night too. But anyway, I said, I'm just going to sit here and

play my guitar. And I hear someone coming over that, that laid down tree. And then when it comes time to go, you know, I grab my guitar and put it away in the chair and go over and grab my drum and check for the drumstick, make sure I got it. It's not there. So I turned on a flashlight and started looking for it, it was nowhere to be found. I couldn't find it. So then I thought, well, okay, it's dark. Maybe it fell somewhere. I don't know.

I'll come back early in the morning. So as soon as it got started getting light out, I booked it over there. You know, no tourists or anybody are going to find it first. So I went over there and looked and it was gone. And I believe that was Alice that took my drumstick. I don't know why I have that feeling, but I named her Alice because she's in Wonderland. that's awesome um i would say oh maybe it's half and half a lot of people i talk to they actually have brought up that when they start to have these conversations that the saskwatch it's usually

something to the effect of um either they want to share their name or they ask what their name is uh and then the saskatch will share their name has that ever happened to you or is it where you are regular just naming them yeah possibly from behind the bush he did but yeah no i got a lot of names for them and i've never heard that i'd like to know okay it would be cool to know uh some of their names yeah that's really interesting do you have any thoughts about um uh telepathy or uh in the community it's usually called mind speak or anything i thought yeah uh i've heard just a little bit of it you know I remember once I was hiking somewhere. And for some reason, I felt uncomfortable there, you know.

And so I thought, am I okay? We're watching over you. You know, I got something similar like that. I'm paraphrasing, I can't exactly remember. But I, you know, but I got this voice. But I've had them visit me in dreams. This happened last year, 2025, in July, I think. We went, it might have been June.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. We went up to, on Forest Road near Rainier. And Russell was with me that time, my friend Russell. And we'd set up camp. It was on a Saturday. So, you know, those mountains, all the tourists and stuff come up there, you know. But it was before anybody had gotten up there. It was about a quarter to noon.

And this, we started hearing some Saturday. Squatch call and then this female matriarch started a call and it was operatic man it was crazy I didn't have any of my recording beer turned on yet and she just went off for about again for like 12 or 13 seconds doing this wild call and I turned to look at Russell we just looked at each other and went wow never heard anything like that is my favorite call of all time so that happened that night they did come into the camp site. I had to get up and pee in the middle of the night. So I got up and I'm peeing.

Russell doesn't sleep very well. So he heard me get up. And he heard me get back in. And then he heard me start snore him. And they said, then someone started playing with a zipper on your tent. They're rolling the zipper up and down. But also, also we had some. jalapeno uh cheetos uh hot ones anyway i don't know if they're jalapeno where what but anyway

there were cheetos there were hot ones and and the bag was just barely touched you know and it was open and we'd left it out by accident actually you know because they stopped taking my gifts so i just figure they might must just like the guitar you know but anyway uh the next morning the bag was empty And then a couple days later, a couple nights later, I had a dream. I was standing on a road up there. And she, the matriarch, came walking down a spur. And when she was approaching, I went, hello. And she just kind of looked at me, but hardly at all.

It was just kind of a quick glance, walked right by me. You know, like I could reach out and touch her, you know, walked right by me. And when she went by, I went, I love you. And then she walked into the woods. And that was a visit. I know that was a, that was a visit. I've had even shared dreams of them. So they come to you in dreams.

What's a shared dream? I'm not, that's a new one for me. Okay. Well, that's where you have it. And someone else has the exact same dream. Oh, sure. This happened, but I didn't even. know this woman, which is weird. But it was her friend that told me my friend had the same dream.

And it was so crazy, you know, you know, it's not a, you know, a dream. It's a visitation. And in that case, I was camping out and they came, and this is CC for you. But Jacques and Peter came and they started calling to me very softly. I'm actually in a regular camp ground. But there's like three loops and I'm in one loop and there was a couple in another loop. But I didn't know if they were still there or not, right? And they start calling to me and I'm standing there facing them. But, you know, they're like 100 yards away and it's dark and I couldn't see them. But it was kind of cool.

It was right after I, well, actually, I was playing my guitar and took a break and that's when they started calling. So I put my guitar down and turn and face them. And then CC joins them. and then it gets really hyped up. It got crazy. And I got kind of a little of the adrenaline rush, you know, it was really extreme.

I have gotten very few of those, but I sent him a message. I said, wow. I said, that was kind of over the top. It just kind of, you know, got to me a little bit. I was a, and so that night, I'm in my tent, and I feel these hands coming right through the tent. and huge hands going under me and I'm picking me up, right?

And of course, I get scared. I mean, I just got this huge adrenaline rush. And I'm, I got paralysis, sleep paralysis, so I can't move. And I hear this voice and it goes, Russell, calm down. And I felt the fear drain down and out my, disappeared out my toes. Just the weirdest feeling. But then it was gone. I was all calm. They picked me up and we faced each other.

We had a conversation and then I talked out loud. You know, we had a telepathic conversation and then I talked out loud and I said, gee, I feel so lucky to have you as a friend, you know. And then he got so happy. He started whining like a puppy dog and licking my face. And at the time, I'm just laughing because it just seems so fun. you know to me and then it's licking my face I wake up and I go wow that was weird and then three of them about 50 yards away start start singing kind of you know with

oh really yeah these animal sounds really cool sounds mostly owl you know but I think there was some crow there and you know it was it was awesome and and then later on talking to a lady and I told her that story and she says my friend had that same dream where she was he whined like a puppy dog and was licking her face oh no way that's wild so that's a shared dream wow yeah that is incredible I never let that lady but I guess she lives up in you know like squim or port angeles somewhere okay sure sure sure man wild wild stuff. So there's a thought I wanted to address just real quick to the side. So, because your, your whole journey over the last almost 20 years is fascinating, but it sounds like you really were

learning as you went along. Like you didn't have a mentor in the beginning. You're, you're just learning. So your story is like very close to like Tom Cantrell where like for the longest time, he didn't know anyone else. Like you have Russell, but you didn't have like a whole community behind you were just figuring out yourself right well yeah i kind of went away from the community you know i reported my very first interaction and bfro wanted to come down and and and get involved and for some reason i thought no i'm not supposed to do that and so i told no thanks and so i just went this is one you know i will probably listen to our conversation a few times uh there's a lot to take away from this one of the main things I'm telling you,

you are traveling all over the Pacific Northwest and having experiences. I can't really think of someone, anyone else that's travel. Like, you're traveling all over the place, which is fantastic. Actually,

four states in over 30 areas I've had interactions. 30 areas. Oh, my goodness. Well, I'm not even sure how many. I would imagine. So, you know,

let's talk, your book is Sasquot Shaman of the Woods. Yes. And so what can people, if, you know, pick up a copy, what can they expect to find in that book that you've written? Well, it's my journey. You know, it starts out, you know, but I didn't know what was going on, you know, just trying to find my way and hoping to just maybe get a footprint or something, you know, just anything.

So it starts from that. then slowly all this other stuff begins to happen. And yeah, that's just some of it. I mean, but that's a good, that's a good start. Fascinating. So I'm guessing like the conversation we had today just scratches the surface. And if you want more of that, definitely pick up a copy of the book. We'll have, we'll have a link to it in the show notes for the episode.

So people can, is the best place to get that on Amazon or is there a place you'd rather people check out for it? I'll just get it on Amazon. Okay, that's fine. All right, cool, cool. But Russell's noble and places like that too. Gotcha. Russell, what a fascinating conversation, man, we will have to keep in touch because you definitely have a cool way of looking at things over the years. Are there any other things that, you know, if people are wanting to, to.

Is there a way for people to reach out to you? Or you mentioned you have a YouTube channel, anything like that else I'd like to share. You have a YouTube channel. It's called Sasquatch Shaman of the Woods. So you can just go to that on YouTube. And I'm just starting to put stuff on there. I'm so busy doing stuff that I have a tough time.

I really want to be a filmmaker, but I don't have time. I just never had time to edit and do that kind of thing, you know, because I'm involved in so many things, you know, music and the, play house and I'm building a shack for my sister right now that kind of thing so yeah it's hard to keep up with everything but yeah so look that up on YouTube and I got I know I got the feather one on there where I got the feather so you'll see the log and the feather sticking in the middle of the log and like I said that's a short version but I'm going to put a longer version on

there but I'm also going to put some archive stuff that you know that I've never shared on there. I got so many vocals and, you know, that's great. Stuff like that. That's awesome. So I'll have that link in the show notes as well. People can check that out. Make sure you subscribe to Russell's channel. But thank you so much for coming on the show and for sharing a bit of your journey with us, Russell, and we'll definitely be keeping in touch. But thank you again for coming on. I thank you so much for this. before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder, who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field or trucker with government contracts,

and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul, and if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract, who has found evidence you're not allowed to report, if you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat, and you saw something that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you.

Even if it's anonymous, you can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. The world needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story. We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the channel on YouTube. Hit the bell so you don't miss the next episode and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. and if you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple Podcast, please follow the show there and leave us a five-star positive review because all that helps more people discover the show. And remember, if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot citing, please, I'd love to hear from you. So email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com and let's start the conversation.

If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check out our membership community over at www. www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com, and that's where you can hear tomorrow's episode today, early and ad-free, and members-only episodes every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot Society. Until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might be out there, and see you in the woods.