Bigfoot Society - He Spoke to Sasquatch! | California

Episode Date: October 18, 2025

What happens when a professional naturalist with 35 years of wilderness experience has a face-to-face encounter with something ancient, powerful, and utterly beyond science? In this unforgettable epis...ode, we talk to Brother Nature, a Native American tracker and science educator who shares his chilling, firsthand account of multiple Sasquatch encounters in the rugged Sierra Nevada. From his son's terrifying cabin sighting in Truckee, to the moment he stood just feet away from a creature that left 18 massive tracks in storm-soaked oak woodlands, Brother Nature reveals what happens when you don’t just search for Bigfoot—you earn its trust. You'll hear stories of rock piles as gifts, guttural voices in the forest, and the night a Sasquatch asked him: "Are you a killer?" This is a raw, spiritual, and violent dive into the world of real Bigfoot encounters—the kind that leave you changed forever.This episode also includes call-in episodes from southern Indiana and more!Resources:Brother Nature's Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@UntamedscienceNowContact Brother Nature - noixiumnature@gmail.com🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:01:53 In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. ways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to an individual. His name is Brother Nature today, and he's got a very interesting, really past that he's gone through. There's a few things that I want to make sure that we
Starting point is 00:02:33 present about what he's been involved with so far over the years. Brother Nature has a 35-year experience as a naturalist as a master's degree in science education, Bachelor of Science Parks and Recreation
Starting point is 00:02:50 and A.A. in art, his bioregions of study everywhere from the Sierra Nevada Mountains, Yosemite to Quincy to, I believe is a Merron headlands, and all sorts of ecosystems in between. But Brother Nature, if I was off on any of that,
Starting point is 00:03:08 definitely let me know or if there's anything you'd like to add, feel free to do so. Oh, you know, that's a good start for us right there. That's what I've been doing. Let's start with 35 years as a naturalist is an incredible amount of time. To be, you know, 35 years is an incredible amount of time to be focused on anything, really.
Starting point is 00:03:30 What got you first into being a naturalist and a tracker? Well, you know, wow, you know, we'll have to go way back. That's even in my DNA, you know, Native American, Yaki. However, you know, my dad is actually, you know, who's not Native American or Yaki, he got me interested, actually, in a lot of the... of being a naturalist. I just want to relay a story way, way back in the day, how I got interested in the creature we know is Bigfoot or Sasquatch.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I actually call it Sausquatch. But it was the Patterson-Gillen film at Bluff Creek here in California. And I believe they shot that in 1967. And in 1968, that film came out in the big screen. in Fremont, California at the Center Theater, you know, way back then, you know, that screen was humongous. It's like, you know, 25 to 30 feet by 50 feet. So it's a gigantic screen. And as a little boy, you know, like just like a lot of little boys,
Starting point is 00:04:52 all the animals and, you know, I have little dinosaur figures and, you know, And at the time, gorillas were like one of my favorite animals in the world. And then I saw that Sasquatch video, and I'm an eight-year-old boy. And, you know, that left an impression on me, actually. So indirectly, you might say that Sasquatch helped me become a naturalist science teacher. Even though I was only like nine years old after that, you know, my family, like to go camping a lot. I just started always looking
Starting point is 00:05:32 at everything after that. Once you start tracking, you know, it's not that you're tracking a saw squash. You're tracking anything. You're looking at anything. A duck track is a beautiful thing. So that
Starting point is 00:05:48 actually began my naturalist career, even though it took me many years to go to school and then get myself a science degree. and then get the job that I wanted to have, which was a naturalist. I didn't really want to do anything outside.
Starting point is 00:06:07 You know, I'm out of nature. And that fresh air, clear my mind, body, spirit, you know, keeps me in shape, keeps my mind in shape. You know, there's, anyway, anywhere you want to branch off in nature, you could go, you want to study botany. It's like forever. If you want to study birds, any of the sciences are found outside. And that's where I was at with that.
Starting point is 00:06:40 So I wanted to make sure at some point in my wife, I was a naturalist, so sure enough. But before that, I took the study, you know, I had to put myself through school. And luckily, once again, my dad came through, you know, in his own business. So all these little interconnecting things And finally Took me to being a naturalist And one of my favorite things Besides tracking animals
Starting point is 00:07:12 Which is like my number one thing I like to do Is that I actually I'm pretty good at aquatic biology So You know I've been done my job a long time So you got to know a little bit about everything.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And yeah, it's like a never-ending story for me on that. Even at this age, at 65, I'm still going out and learning new things and being part of nature. I'm like semi, I say semi-retired. But you,
Starting point is 00:07:46 as we were talking about before the show started, I mean, you are literally on your way out right now to go somewhere and you're able to spend a, few minutes with us today, which we're gratefully thankful for, you know, going back to when you saw the PG film as an eight-year-old boy, the Patterson, Patterson Gimlin film, what was a conversation like about what you had seen up on that big screen when you left that auditorium that day with your father?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Oh, interesting question. My dad, you know, he was blown away at that, too. he had never seen anything like that himself. So, you know, I'm going, God, with that, there's something called Bigfoot in the woods. And he was just going, you know, maybe. I saw it. It was like, wow, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But I'll tell you something. My dad was a big, bigfoot believer after that. And, you know, my family, we always went to Yosemite every, every summer forever, for the longest time. I mean, so when we will be driving to Yosemite, I'm looking right outside the window, you know. Any campfire we had after that, at some point there was, there was a mention of Bigfoot, you know. So he was, and then some people would laugh and do this and that, but you know what? Deep down, me and my dad, we knew it was real.
Starting point is 00:09:23 so and I'm going to let you know something too my dad he said and I quote this he goes if there's anybody that's out there that's going to discover Sasquatch it's going to be my son he's going to be the one that's going to be the one that's going to you think he would he would say that well you know I'm a tracker you know that all these you know it's right from then you know when you're going through elementary school and junior high and high you don't have those kind of classes, right? They don't have tracking classes. But fortunately, you know, I live in the East Bay of California in the San Francisco Bay area. I had a creek
Starting point is 00:10:08 really close to my house. And it's connected right to the hills. I go left. I go to the San Francisco Bay. I go right into the hills. So, you know, as a young, youngster, I'm heading up there
Starting point is 00:10:23 both ways. And looking at you know, I'm not plaster casting tracks at that point in time because they didn't know how to do with it. However, tracking animals and going up hill and going up here, going to see this, what track is that? It's just something that I never stopped doing. And then, you know, I always have plaster up here. I have my tracking bag right now. Like we were talking just a little while ago, I'm ready to go out just a little bit right now. getting a little
Starting point is 00:10:56 I get all the anxiety ridden sometimes most people when they you know get really intrigued by the the Sasquatch subject there's an incident that happens that makes things
Starting point is 00:11:11 completely real for them was there a situation that happened you know after you had seen the Patterson going film and then maybe a few years later was there something that happened that made that extremely real in your life? Well, I'll tell you,
Starting point is 00:11:31 there was a, it took many years for that realization to happen. I mean, I've been looking all over for them. I look for credible reports, right? You know, I was, I was a backcountry naturalist in the Sierra Nevada Mountains for 15 years. So anytime I heard a reporter of this on my time off, I'd take a drive and go hiking and take a look around.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So, yeah, there were times where I came across some really beautiful tracks. And as a tracker, check us out, my motto is really simple. Tracks don't lie, and either do I. All animals out there have a signature track. And, you know, I've been tracking black bears in the Sierra Nevada Mountains forever. I did some tracking in the Snake River, Wyoming, go, the grizzly bears one time in my life. And, you know, here I am in the Sierra Nevada Mountains,
Starting point is 00:12:37 and all of a sudden I come across these, you know, gigantic track. So right then, I found the track that I was looking for, right? And then I worked in a camp. I was working in a camp. This happened about seven years ago now. My son came over, my little grandson. He was just an infant at that time and brought his wife. I was in cabin one and they were in cabin two.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I was all happy to see my family. So I had to tuck in early because I had to go to work the next morning. And I told my son I was going to make breakfast in the morning. And then when I got up, they were gone. They went to the nearest town, which is Truckee. And I called them up. I'm, hey, what's going on? Where did you guys go?
Starting point is 00:13:37 And my dad, he goes, my son's, oh, well, Dad, we saw Sasquatch and your cat last thing. He stepped off from the side of trees. He was eight foot tall. He said, I didn't want to have my wife from Charlie even near it. I didn't know anything about it. Put him in the car. He took off. They slept in the car and tried.
Starting point is 00:13:57 And, you know, he told him, he goes, I didn't want to tell you right then, Dad, because I know you're not leaving anywhere, man. He goes, and he was right. He did the right thing, too. Get my grandson out of there, you know, and him and his wife. Stay safe. Always go out there, stay safe as you can. And, you know, I went in that area, and I did a little tracking right there. Now, this is 6,500 foot elevations.
Starting point is 00:14:32 He's walking along the tree line, a lot of broken branches, and he's stepping on cones. It's going to make a really good track because right there, you know, the landscape is exposed. The igneous and the site is everywhere. So he could step on anywhere and go in any direction. It's going to be an extremely hard thing to find them. So all these things were adding up, right?
Starting point is 00:15:05 And, you know, I'm still working. Still working in this year in about a mountains. And a place called the Desolation Wilderness. And right behind my tent there is nothing but wilderness. There isn't even an electric wire. It's just an amazing, beautiful wilderness. And that's why I'm a naturalist, man. I just know waking up in a crisp morning and picking a look out there.
Starting point is 00:15:40 It's just totally vibrant. Everything is alive, including me, including the Sasquatch, including other things that are out there that I have seen, that I have not been seen too much. That area is just outside of Lake Tahoe, right? Yeah. in Tahoe National Forest, desolation wilderness.
Starting point is 00:16:07 However, you know, that entire area from Yosemite all the way to Quincy, that's the Sierra. There's things that go on. That's a long stretch of wilderness.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And a lot of caring capacity for many, many creatures. You know, there's a lot of bear in there. But there's other things, like I said, you know, you know, today we're talking. We're talking more about soft squash. Another time I'll tell you another thing.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I come across some other things I don't really like talking about too much. Oh, sure. I understand that and definitely respect that. So you're talking about going from really Lake Tahoe, I mean, all the way up through Plumis National Forest. It looks like if you're looking at Quincy, California. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Right. Gotcha. Gotcha. Sonsquatch has been spotted in Plumis. It's been spotted in Shasta. Oh, yeah. You know, I've gone to Shasta. Now, look it, I'm a naturalist, right?
Starting point is 00:17:07 So I'm just happy to be out of nature. I just happen to have my bag with me. It has all everything I need in there. I'm happy to get a beautiful little bird track. So whatever creatures out there, I look for the best tracks that I possibly can get and love the art behind it. And it just happens that, you know, okay,
Starting point is 00:17:29 saucewatch does come come you know he's in my he's in my collection and right now i have 18 saucequatch tracks and like we were talking about earlier i'm actually going on my own little expedition later on today i was i've been on it the last four days you know i'm an older guy now i'm 65 years old so i'm kind of like more or less go out and during the day in my youth when i was young man like you i'd stay out all night but i said I go out there during the day all day and see what I can find in this general area where I can't tell you where this is at right now. Right. I cannot tell you where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You know, this is where I've seen Sasquatch. The Sasquatch has seen me. I have 18 tracks, and believe it or not, there's no way in the world like to plaster cast these tracks without the Sasquatch allow it. me to do so. So it's just an unusual thing. I am really intrigued by the statement you just said about not being able to cast tracks without Sasquatch allowing you to do so. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:50 This is, this is, can't tell you everything. I got you. I could tell you a lot of the things. Okay. I'm going to tell you about this one particular Sasquatch. is, you know, like even right now, like I said, I'm on his trail again, and he's hot on mine. And what happened was my godson, he's a trucker, he's a skeptic also, you know, even though I kept telling him, you know, everybody likes to take jabs at me because, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:24 you're a big dumb, you believe in Sasquatch and everything like that. I'm going, hey, you know what? you watch TV too much really you know I don't even want to get into all that I just spend you know 85% of my time is outside so anyway that's why I'm not with that so my godson he's a trucker he's going through here
Starting point is 00:19:47 he's making a right turn into this town and he stops because he's got his high beams on and there's a soft-swatch looking into a trailer he stops he puts the high beams are on there the soft squatch stands up covers his eyes darts into the woods so my godson he is now a firm believer and he calls me up and he's going oh boy we don't we don't have any 12-foot guerrillas in california do you so right then i go bro give me that give me the coordinates right now man i need those now he gave him to me i mean within seven eight hours here i was here
Starting point is 00:20:33 the trail with a Sasquatch was at. And then, okay, here's where, I don't know, you might think of the metaphysical way, the Native American way,
Starting point is 00:20:53 the spiritual way, my way. Okay, we have traditions in our native culture that say, okay, if you're coming in, you're coming into a different territory, or you give offerings, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:08 There's tobacco. You know, we do a tobacco ceremony and, you know, smudge herself with sage and we give offerings. That's how I communicated with Sasquatch. So I didn't take any weapons with me. And, you know, other than, you know, I have a great 14-inch knife
Starting point is 00:21:30 that I have right here on my belt. And carry a staff with me in my backpack, easily accessible as my machete. Those are the only three weapons I have that I take. If I even call them weapons, they're digging things. You know, it's clear, clear. I've never had to use anything, fortunately.
Starting point is 00:21:51 When I walk around in nature, I carry a musical instrument with me called a clapstick. And along with a few, you know, songs that I sing, and usually keeps the wild animals away that I'm able to do what I need to do. So I gave me an offering to that Sasquatch and it took it.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And man, I don't even know how to explain. I don't even know how to. It's even tough for me to talk about. I'm getting it. I love it because I did it. But I was actually within feet of this Sasquatch. I heard his voice. It's able to, it certainly does not speak English.
Starting point is 00:22:48 However, it can let you know what it's talking about and what it's on its mind. And it has an incredible, humongous, guttural voice that will go right through you. If you're not prepared for it, you could have a heart attack. It's that intense. So, you know, this was, you know, like I was telling you earlier, I was able to plaster cast 18 tracks. You know, this had happened right after a five-day downpour of rain, too, by the way. So the ground was really saturated in an oak woodland area. And what the Sasquatch was doing right there is I found a speeding grounds is what happened.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Because, you know, when you walk you through the forest, you look for out. abnormalities. You know, like I said, I've been doing my thing 35 years or more. I go in the forest lot. So I'm always looking. And I'm, you know, I do a lot of bear tracking. So I'm looking for scrapes, scat, everything. And yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:10 So anyway, give me a refocus. Let's ask me another question. Oh, I have so many. You mentioned really quick guttural voice. So is that the kind of thing? Like when you hear that, when that's spoken around you, does it physically affect your body as well in any ways? Well, man, you know, the Sasquatch, okay, we're talking about the first stock of humans. They're the original.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And they're so big. and their neocortex and their pineal glands are larger and more well developed than us humans. And, you know, like I was telling you earlier, I don't know all the answers to all of this. I just know what happened and what he did to me and in my experience of it. But, you know, I do know a little bit about my own pineal gland and my own, you know, cortexes and other, creatures like whales and things like that. These older animals, they're more highly
Starting point is 00:25:25 incredibly developed than us. Even the crocodiles are probably even smarter than us. And they sure are in their own environment. We're no match to any kind of creature like that. Well,
Starting point is 00:25:41 like I was saying just a minute ago, you know, it can communicate. And I'll give you an example. Only the the octaves are higher. They're way higher. You know, unless, you know, the Morland, that Morland tape from the Sierra sounds,
Starting point is 00:26:03 he got it. Oh, Ron Moorhead, yeah? Yes, yes, that one. Yeah, yeah, he got it. It's, blah, blah, blah, blah. Have you heard that before? I'm telling you, that's, that's what he told me.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Oh. Before that, though, like I was telling you, they could do things. So, you know, when I was walking through the forest, I got a major headache, and I don't get headaches. So that's when I knew that he was around me. And I said, you know, okay,
Starting point is 00:26:43 I'm a mile and a half deep in the woods here. You know, I don't have any, I don't have any, I don't have any camera crew. I don't have anybody with me. I don't want anybody with me. This is between me and the Sausquatch. You know, I'm more than happy to go out there right now and do what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Because check this out. I'll go a little deeper on you. I was performing what is known as the Yaki Death Lodge, which means that, okay, I'm more than happy to see you, man. If you're going to rip me up, you can. but I am going to see you and that's what I did so when he came out me he gave me that massive headache and I let him know
Starting point is 00:27:30 I know you're here and he let me go he released it and that's I'm sitting in my lodge which is known as a lodge we'll talk about it another time maybe some of your listeners know what my lodge is but I'm not leaving that lodge
Starting point is 00:27:49 I'm a mile and a half deep in the woods and here he is. Hearts erasing, pumping. Everything you could ever imagine is going on. The only thing I, you know, it's like, so that's when he came up with me with his language,
Starting point is 00:28:10 his federal talk and asked me, what the heck am I doing there? What am I doing here? I'm like, oh, what are you doing here? And you know what? It might sound incredible. and I know that there's a lot There's a lot of people
Starting point is 00:28:26 But check this out Jeremiah, I don't sure I haven't even assured this With very many people at all And Only some of my closest friends know Because they know, right? They're not
Starting point is 00:28:42 I want, oh man I just had a deep conversation But when I had childhood best friends And Who was asking me not to do this anymore that he goes, you don't have to do it anymore. You proved it, bro. You don't have to do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:59 But, you know, that's a different story. You know, I appreciate his concern. But I do have to do it more. This is what I do. And, you know, and I finally made contact. So I'm going to, I'm going out there and doing it again. See if I could do it again. So anyway, the South Squad Chasperse me, what the heck I'm doing there?
Starting point is 00:29:26 And I told him, I'm here to see you. And it told me, there's many of us. Asked me if I was a killer. He goes, you're no killer. You know, I come with nothing. I tell you, I ain't never seen an greatest expression of face on an animal in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:29:56 The way he looks at me, it's just something I just will never get out of my head. However, check this out. I put myself in that position, so I feel good about that. I feel good. I feel good and strong about that. So it's okay. I do know some people out there that have post-traumatic stress disorder.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I had that to a certain extent, but that's another story from like six years ago that we'll talk about another time. But I'm feeling way better now. I'm feeling better. Now that I've come across the Sasquatch, it feels much, much better, sleeping better at night.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So anyway, check this out. I came across the speeding grounds and it's an entire area. It's not, you know, When a bear eats, you know, they'll, they have claws. So when they're digging into the earth, they pull things backwards. They, they pull things back. This Sasquatch is ripped into this entire hillside.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I'm talking maybe 50, 60 yards in a straight line. And he put his hands inside these rocks and he was pulling up boulders bigger than bowling balls, ripping them out, picking them out. throwing them in front, pushing them back. He was grabbing rodents, sleeping snakes, grubs, squirrels, mice, bowls, shrews, anything that was in there. Worms, they were edible because they got to eat, man. And then he went downtown and he ripped it to shreds. It was like, when I saw it, I was going, I hit it, I hit the jackpot.
Starting point is 00:31:57 you know and he left the most beautiful footprints but what tripped me out well the whole thing trimmed me out what could I say but check this out he put it in his hands and he was getting into the earth he was stomping the feet and grabbing with hands I have 18 tracks of this creature and I have most of them are of hands because right remember you you mentioned to the group earlier I have a degree in art. So when I look at that, I was going, man, you know, the whole thing was art. Big gigantic footprints, big humongous handprints, cupping, feet and hands together. To me, I never, of course, I've never ever seen anything like that.
Starting point is 00:32:49 And nobody else has in the world other than possibly, I don't even know, Russell Accord from Ronnie LeBlanc, Dr. Mariah Mayor, they might have come across something like I'm not sure. They're in deep woods like I am. But, you know, they've got a lot of people with them
Starting point is 00:33:08 and, you know, they, lights with them. You know, not me, not this time. Anyway, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I know a lot of people listening to this are trying to make some kind of contact themselves in a respectful way. So do you have any advice for someone who's trying to go out to an area and make some sort of connection? Okay. Now, look, I'm a professional naturalist, right?
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yep. Other folks out there, I recommend you going with only one other person, no more than three. There's safety in numbers for one thing. and don't take any weapons like a gun they know what they are you know you go in there with showing
Starting point is 00:34:09 a gun they're going to go further away they see us way before they know where they know you're in their territory and they know who's peaceful and they know who's the troublemaker we're all troublemakers to them
Starting point is 00:34:26 they don't kill them he's mad, man. They don't want us up there. And, you know, I'm on, yeah. So anyway, don't be scared. You're there. You bet, you know, if you get a credible report and you go in there,
Starting point is 00:34:50 just don't, don't back down. Go there and then have your intent, man. And then, look it, I can't give you, I'm going to give you the biggest secret of a ball, I guess. My softwatch here loves peanut butter and raisin sandwiches. Lozum. Oh, wow. Do you just leave those different places in the area then as like offerings? Yeah, so, you know, I know he's in an area.
Starting point is 00:35:23 You know, they're watching me. They're watching what we do. So they know if you're a friend or foe. So my offering, man, I'm going to give you this really delicious little treat that even little kids love. and, you know, sure enough, you know, you put them in a certain spot, you come back the next day, you know, don't put a trail camera up, man. They know what, they know what those are.
Starting point is 00:35:48 You have to gain trust with them. They don't, they know things. No box. He told me, no box on tree, because I already asked it. When I go over, I ask them, I have to ask everything. Everything has to be done slow. Check this out. God bless their souls, Diana Fossi and Jane Goodall, Jane Goodall.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Oh, I loved her to pieces, seen every single footage. Every, over and over and over. Dr. Meldrum, all of his, all of his soft squatch tracks. I'm a student of tracks. So I'm just ready. I'm just ready to do my thing. So little by little, you know, he came, sure enough. You know, got him a little closer, closer, closer.
Starting point is 00:36:39 They know that, okay, this dude, this dude, he's our friends. And that's what I'm trying to get at. Say, hey, you know what? We're not all trying to mess you up here. As a matter of fact, I'm trying to stop people from coming and assling you. I hate their cutting. I go, you know, and I'm a forester. You know, I was in the California conservation.
Starting point is 00:37:07 court for a couple of years. Every whole of my life, you know, is just surrounded about nature. So, you know, nature preservation and conservation is where I'm at. And that includes habitat for animals like black bear and
Starting point is 00:37:23 the thought squatch which share habitat here, along with the wolves here and the mountain lions here and the packs of coyotes here. This is a tough place on that. It's a very tough place indeed. but I wouldn't want it any other way.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I love it right here, man. So really it sounds like the connection, it needs to be focused on connection. And if you're bringing stuff out there, like audio recorders and video recorders, you're on the wrong path is what I'm kind of picking up. Well, you know, like I was saying, you know, even, you know, even choose your friends wisely.
Starting point is 00:38:08 as humans, right? So, you know, they're really weary of us. You can't, you know, they're looking at you in the forest. You don't even know they're looking. They could climb trees very well. They could look at down on you without any problem.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Check this out. So I want to tell you a different story about my lot of Sasquatch track over there or in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, right? I was with a friend of mine. And, man, big dummy. I left my tracking bag in the motel room. We just got there.
Starting point is 00:38:47 We want to stretch out. But I got a credible report of this area. So I go, let's go, here, check it out. So we do. And sure enough, there's a massive 19-inch track on the ground, just one. One track. Like, he stepped down off the tree, put his foot on the ground, and then he climbed back up the tree. and when I saw that
Starting point is 00:39:11 and my buddy my buddy saw it so you take a look at this we gotta go back to this we gotta go back to the little bit so anyway so the pine cones
Starting point is 00:39:20 but uh you know a little rock thing to make sure we come right back to the same place put a stick right there because you know
Starting point is 00:39:31 it's a little hike in so man I don't run we run all the way back to the motel room get my backpack go back check this out
Starting point is 00:39:40 the saucequatch is watching us somewhere he came down there took out the rock pile way out of the stick through the pine cone away and wiped away his track and then went back up in the tree my buddy's all well you know and all i i was just laughing i you know all i could do is laugh at that yeah but that that one that was pretty good one at that yeah good doing that is that is pretty cool i mean i i've heard talking to people over the years. I've talked to people in West Virginia where they were casting a track and a tree almost got pushed over on them and then they heard stuff all around them or were track cast being stolen from people in Oregon around Oak Ridge. I mean, all sorts of weird stuff I think can happen for sure. They're tricksters. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:40:36 So right after I gave him my first sandwich. he left me a pile of rocks and a pyramid and you know I have all this photographed and video I've released it little by little
Starting point is 00:40:54 I'm you know man we just want to we want to just preserve the forest and leave the I don't even know what to say man I mean I do it too
Starting point is 00:41:06 right but I'm not doing it for harassment I just love tracks and then now that I have the Sosquatch tracks I'm like the happiest camper in the world. I have tracks and I'm more than willing to share them what they need a buddy to look at.
Starting point is 00:41:22 As a matter of fact, this is where I'm at with my tracks right now. You know, I need these tracks, laser scan and x-ray. And I actually need a partner in that. I don't know where to go. I'm more like a simple dude, nature. They call me brother nature. My name is Nuxium. you know, my Native American name
Starting point is 00:41:44 and, you know, my Christian given name is Stevenian. But everybody knows me as noxia in nature. And, you know, my goal is 25 Sasquatch tracks and I have 18.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I don't want to brag about stuff or anything like that. I just have them and I would just like to get them, like I said, laser skin. I'm a scientist, right? Check this out. Master of Science. This is the reason why I have so many tracks Because you need to mix and match when you're doing science
Starting point is 00:42:21 You can't have one track and say look at I got one track You got to have more than one thing of evidence in order to Take a look at them and analytically look at as many as you possibly can See the similarities Now these tracks the ham tracks have dermal ridges on them and so are the foot tracks. So a lot of the time, you know, even the angle of repose on when he hit the earth,
Starting point is 00:42:50 they're, they're, they're all different. However, they all have something similar, and they were all plaster cast on wet of woodland. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:07 they're not the track that, you know, the Patterson tracks that were on sand and on the, on the bank of the creek. These things are, these things are deep woods and they're, you know, but you could still see,
Starting point is 00:43:21 you know, the bend of the toes, the heel, the whole foot. And I have my favorite track. I call them all my favorite tracks. They're all my favorite tracks, but I brought one here.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I left, I left my 17 tracks elsewhere. And I have one here to show whoever needed, you know, to see it or to show whoever while I go and track. You know, I still have a few. He was, I'm here in this one spot where I had the encounter, you know, it was three months ago. And he was, he was here two and a half weeks ago, according to the tracks that I see on the
Starting point is 00:44:10 ground right now. They're weathered, they have grass growing out of them. They're not really good enough. the plaster cast. I'm so bummed. So that's why I went out to a little further place where I saw them before. And, you know, hopefully he's going to come back and
Starting point is 00:44:25 remember me. I'm pretty sure he will. So I'm pretty anxious to go and take a look at this area where I was yesterday, right along the river. Just a stunning sight.
Starting point is 00:44:42 So anyway, I'll tell you, I look I'm doing something that's entirely incredibly dangerous, and I don't recommend anybody doing it. Like I said, I'm a professional naturalist, and you folks out there, take this out. You might not even hear from me again. I could go out there and get ripped apart by who knows what.
Starting point is 00:45:03 However, I'm prepared, like I said, to defend myself against anything. I'll leave DNA there. If I get ripped apart, whatever's going to rip you apart, I'm going to get them too, man. so you might find their blood splat whatever however the creator has had me here all this entire time and i thank the creator so much and every other creature in the forest for having me man that's so i want to let you know what i've been telling you is the absolute truth and like i say you know trucks don't mind either do i absolutely i mean i i have let's say one more question for you
Starting point is 00:45:42 just because I know that you are literally headed out the door soon. You had mentioned a lot earlier before in the interview about how, like, the neocortex and pineal glands are larger and more developed than humans. How was that something that you were able to figure out, and how does that come into play with the Sasquatch, do you think? Okay, ours are way smaller and there's a way bigger. he could like I was telling you
Starting point is 00:46:14 I guess it's called telepathy I'm not sure if that's the he could go right in you man and here's another thing too you know watch be careful what you ask for
Starting point is 00:46:31 you just might get it because this telepathy thing it doesn't just stop in one day oh boy oh boy so you better think about things that you want to do because, you know, if you want to make contact with them, he could get in there telepathically, but it's not one day. He was contacting me for about a month and a half, and I was in Calaveras County, hundreds of miles away from where he was until he left me alone.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Because I, it's a longer story than I will have to go to another one, but you know what? the only reason why he allowed me to do it is because I was taking care of certain things that he needed taking care of. Broken bottles along everywhere. People, come on, man. Broken bottles not only hurt Sasquatch, they hurt us, they hurt all wildlife. And when you go into pristine rivers, lakes, wherever you're at, you know, what, pack it in, pack it out. because check this out. I've taken out
Starting point is 00:47:45 26 bottles from the river right here. And that's one of the bargains I made with them. I told you, I need your tracks. And, you know, he called me a, you know, what? You didn't even know what the heck I'm talking about, man. I go, I'll take care of these.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And he knows what those are. you said, a hurt feet. I'm like, yes, hurt feet, man. So, you know, that was a little bargain I had to make, man.
Starting point is 00:48:26 It wasn't, it wasn't easy. And it still isn't, right? But you know what? I'm here. I'm happy. And you know what? If I make contact with the big good right now,
Starting point is 00:48:38 you know, I'll be more even happier again. And like I said, man, Hopefully, one of your listeners, you have the technology that I'm looking for. I'll drive to you. 3D laser scanning. I need x-rays.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I'll drive. I'll go anywhere in this country. It makes no difference to me. I'm a serious man. You know. But you know what? I still have my sense of humor. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Which is super important in life. I'm still good, man. Is there a way people can converse? contact you if they do have that technology? Yeah, you could contact me. You know, check this out. I have a YouTube channel, believe it or not. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Where I'm putting footage in little by little. Look, I'm slow. I like turtle. I don't go fast. Technology is really difficult for me. I could barely even talk to you over the phone half the time, and then computers. I don't even know what to do.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I'm a caveman. So, but I have this YouTube channel. My Godson made it for me, actually, because I teach other classes. I teach a lot of things, Native American art skills, tracking, mapping. You know, my repertoire of things that I've teaching, it's not like 35 years.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I've been just teaching, you know, a few subjects. I teach all subjects in nature. So he made me this thing. I'm totally appreciative of that. And it's called Untamed Science now with me. And I'm Noxian Nature. Stephen
Starting point is 00:50:29 Noxian Nature. And I'll be posting stuff on there. So you could contact me that way. But you know what? My email is Noxiumnature at gmail.com. It's N-O-I-X-I-U-M-Nature at g-mail.com.
Starting point is 00:50:47 They could contact me through you now. You have my phone number. They could contact me directly through you. And the reason I ask for other ways of contact is because I am swamped and ways that you could not even imagine. But yes, so we will have the direct ways to contact Brother Nature in the description of the episode. But wow, it has been such an incredible conversation. Yeah, I hope we do get to talk again. in the future.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I've many more conversations I think we could have about things we barely touch the surface on, but I do hope that you have a safe trip that you're able to find again what you're looking for out there. Okay, check this out. I want to also
Starting point is 00:51:39 mention, too, right? That my time with this Sasquatch isn't one day. That was a 10-day expedition. I had that last time. It was 10 days and nights. I stood with it outside. And yeah, that's how I was, I was allowed to get that. But this is where I was getting got to check this out at our next time that we talk.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I want to talk to you. I want to tell you and your listeners what happened the first night. Right? Because this happened during the first day, all that stuff we've been talking about. first night and then like I was telling you I was with the 10 straight days after that and I'm totally grateful and gifted because it allowed me if you were talking about that earlier
Starting point is 00:52:34 it allowed me to get these tracks because that is part of Day 2 story this is the weirdest thing ever anyway I hope that I get to talk to you again and your listeners I totally appreciate you having me all
Starting point is 00:52:51 on your program. Absolutely. I am all excited now. Thanks for firing me up. I feel like you're the coach and here I go. I'm like, ooh, ooh, ooh, I've been cool. Absolutely. We'll be talking to you again.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Thank you so much for coming on, Brother Nature. I do greatly appreciate it. Thanks so much. Hi there. How are you? Good. How are you? Doing great.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Are you coming up to share? and a Bigfoot experience that you've had? Sure. I'd love to tell a little quick story. All right, go right ahead, sir. So I was up in Harbin Hot Springs, just north of St. Elena, Napa area in California,
Starting point is 00:53:39 North Cal. Okay. And we were up there. It's pretty remote, and I was doing a hike. And as I was going through the hike, I had some stuff thrown in our general direction. And when we look back, we really didn't see anything, but definitely seemed a little bit off. I can't say I saw any, like I saw Bigfoot.
Starting point is 00:54:10 It certainly could have been someone throwing rocks at me, but that seems also a little off. But yeah, the whole hike through, I just felt like. I was being watched. I felt like something was wrong. We made it back down towards where we were a little closer towards the facility and that they could hear us. And so we weren't as intimidated as much. But certainly when I was up on that top of that hill going through that game trail, like something wasn't right. And when something came flying past my head missed me by like a foot, it wasn't right. There was something out there.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Wow. What year was that again? This was probably like 2019, 2020, give or take. Gotcha. Did you get a look for how big the item was that was drawn towards you? No, no, it whizzed past. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:14 It came through pretty fast, and it wasn't a boulder, but certainly wasn't a pebble. There was like one or two that came. It wasn't just like one rock. But when they hit, there was like a thudder or two. It was certainly enough to get my attention. And the lady friend that I was with, we certainly noticed. It wasn't like it was like some other person hiking the trail like, hey, let's mess with this other person.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Which, why would anyone do that anyway? That doesn't make sense at all. It sounded like you, you start. started to look into the subject after that. Did you do any research to see if there had been any other Bigfoot interactions in this area? Actually, no. I had it. I have not.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Gotcha. I appreciate you. I appreciate you sharing real quick. I did want to look up something here. Lake County does have one, one Bigfoot experience reported on the BFRO. So that's interesting. That's near Middle Town. California. I appreciate you coming up. Is this a story I could share on the Bigfoot
Starting point is 00:56:25 podcast that I have? Yeah, no problem with that, but. All right. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. Yep, no, thank you. Hi there, sir. How are you? Oh, I'm doing great. Can you hear me good? Yep, you sound great. Did you have a story to share today, sir? Oh, how much time you got? We got all the time you need, sir.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Okay. I'm just going to start from the beginning. I've had a lot of experience. I used to live, I can go ahead and tell you pretty much the area where it was without divulging too much, but I live in Indiana, and I lived in the knobs, in the Floyd knobs.
Starting point is 00:57:09 There was a report, but let me tell my story first, and then I'll get to the report. That happened after the fact. But I lived in a number. knobs and I had an orchard in my yard. I had apples, peaches, had a great bind, had a little garden and stuff like it. But where I lived, a major highway cut through, but there was like a way, like an overpass for, I would say, animals to cross because it was kind of like a crossing that
Starting point is 00:57:40 come into the, they've divided the woods, let's put that way with the highway. But there was a way for animals to get through and stuff. But the strange thing is, and I never paid no attention until I had something happened, but we lived in a trailer that was kind of on a hillside, and the back window was like, I would say at least eight foot off the ground, eight to nine foot off the ground. And my wife would always tell me she sees like pig eyes in the window. and I just brushed it off as she was seeing stuff, okay? Further on down the line, like I was telling you, we got the orchard and all that we had the apples and stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I'd always have to pick the apples up where I could cut the grass because it was time for the apples to start falling and stuff and they were falling. But I come home one day and I was going to cut the grass and I was going to pick the apples up and I asked my wife, I said, thanks for actually, we told her, I said, thanks. for picking apples up for me. She said, I didn't pick them up. It just seemed strange that they wound up missing because nobody lived right by me or anything. And you could say deer ate them or whatever, but I doubt that because they were even off
Starting point is 00:59:02 the tree. But the strange thing is that I had this grapevine in the back of my house where I lived. And I went to go pick the grap. and all the grapes were gone. And there was this big war spot back there behind the grapes where it looked like something had been sitting there. Whatever, it was huge.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I would sometimes mow behind there, but I'd only do it like every couple weeks. And you could tell it's something that'd sit there and walled this all out. And whatever was, took the grapes. We're sitting there
Starting point is 00:59:41 and we're in our living room and my chair sits about three feet from the door. And my wife was on the couch. And this tall, dark creature walks across my door. And I see it. It's with it. It could have reached in and grabbed me. That's how close it was because I had my,
Starting point is 01:00:06 we had our door wide open because it was late in the year and the breeze was coming in. And we always left the door wide open. But it didn't turn its neck when it looked dead at me. But it looked right at me. And in my eyes like it was looking through my... And I seen the facial part of it. But the strange thing is, me and my wife both seen it at the same time. And we both turned at each other and did it because it walked by.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And we turned at each other and we both said at the same time, did you see that? And, of course, we were dumbfounded and stuff. And she said, get up and shut the door. I'm not going to use the words I used here because I don't want to get you banana. But I basically told her, no, heck with that. And some other words, because it physically froze me in my chair. But that was so strange and so scary. But for months, I wouldn't even go outside in the dark without taking a gun.
Starting point is 01:01:14 But that's when I started getting into looking into studying it. Now, this is back of the early 90s when this happened. But the strange thing is, I had this van that I worked out of, and I always parked it up by my door. I was sitting in my living room, and my nephews come to the house, and they said, when they pulled in the driveway, they thought I was standing by my, I'm six foot five, I'm a big guy. they thought I was standing by my man. And they said that they couldn't understand why I ran off in the woods. And they were hollered at me. And I didn't hear him saying anything.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I was inside. But they come in and was telling me this. As time kept going on, my youngest son, I lived on a dead end street. And they did have some houses up on the road, probably a quarter mile up the road. road and the boys would go play basketball. All of them come back running back to the house saying they heard something screaming the woods and they said it and they, this is what they told me. They said it sound like Chebacca, you know, from Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And I didn't pay no mind, but I went up there and took a look, didn't hear nothing all that stuff. But getting further on down the line, about two weeks after that, there's a news article. from the Banner Gazette, I think it was, that was in New Albany. I lived in the Knives, which is part of New Albany. But this woman claims that she saw a hairy creature sitting on a log as she was going up cord and pike.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And that cord and pike is on the other side of where I live at. So whatever it was probably that. But let me get a little deeper because that's why I, asked you if you had time because I never put no mind into anything and as far as what I saw, I've never seen nothing like that before my life. But I'm an avid hunter. I've been hunting pretty much all my life and I never seen nothing like that in the woods. But I got permission to hunt the woods that was next to my house there. And it was across the field from my house and in the woods there, but in these woods had like runoff where, I don't know, I guess whenever it rained
Starting point is 01:03:54 the water would run that way. But I got to a button down in the woods and I followed that creek bed because it was soft and it wouldn't make no noise. But I get down at the bottom of the creek bin. I never explored this area before, but I've seen a pond. And there was like sticker bushes all the way around it. And there was only one opening. and it was only like I would say maybe three foot wide. So I walked up to it and I seen these little bitty footprints. They were probably like children's footprints in the mud right there at that water source. And I'm thinking, man, what's kids doing out here?
Starting point is 01:04:36 I didn't put two and two together. Like I said, I never ever thought about Bigfoot or even heard of it mentioned until I've seen it. I think it was Leonard Neboy had talked about it on In Search of, I believe. But I always, I just said it was a hoax. But they kind of dumbfounded me, so I started looking up stuff. But now I've got all this time that I've looked it all up. And let's put it this way, I moved from where I was. We had many experiences there.
Starting point is 01:05:10 My kids have come running home from the creek, and they've seen them. But getting further on down the line, I moved, and I moved into Corden, Indiana. And my mom owns what she used to. But the tallest mountain that's around here in Corden. Her house sat right on top of it. And on the other side is Indian Creek. And I took my wife down there, and we're down there. I just wanted to fish, and I was going to grill a couple of hamburgers.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I took the grill down there, because it's a lot of. It's down deep and kind of like in the valley there and the creek's there. And we're sitting there and all of a sudden we hear this whoop from across the creek. And she said, what is that? I said, if I told you, you wouldn't believe me. And then behind me, I hear another whoop. And then to the right of me, I hear another whoop. My wife says, I want to go because I told her what I thought it was.
Starting point is 01:06:17 she said I want to go and about that time she said that I guess one of them had pushed a tree over right behind us it thrashed down the hillside towards us it was a huge tree and of course I was still cooking and I was almost finished cooking the burger I said I'm going to eat my burger I said I ain't leave until I get this burger up she said I want to go
Starting point is 01:06:43 so I had a medium rare burger that day but I backed up everything because she was scared. So I got to thinking because we had to drive down there, you couldn't get down there unless you had four-wheel drive. It was that rugged down there. But I got to thinking they were crossing that creek because then behind there was a big ridge and it kind of cut straight down to the ground.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Something like they could climb that ridge and have a good high spot. to not be bothered and be able to and I've been on top of that ridge because it's the top of the mountain but you can't go over the side of it because it's so treacherous you'd almost fall off of it but we went on back
Starting point is 01:07:36 but I got to thinking I'm like when we drove down there we probably separated them because they were trying to cross the creek to get to that reef. pitch. And I found a nest down there too. And I wasn't, I wasn't really into it real bad, but I am now doing a little bit of investigating and stuff. I'm not going to tell my name because I don't really want to put it out there. But I've been doing this for a lot of years. But like I was trying to tell you, I found a nest down there in these bottoms, shoved back in
Starting point is 01:08:09 a corner and you could tell that's what it is and nothing that I know of in Indiana we don't have bears per se in this area they're further they're further north but you could tell it was a nest of some sort and sticks were piled up with a with an entrance under it but I almost believe and then I hunt all this area and I found prints on top of a hill and trees pushed over trying to block you from going through that trail because there's a deer trail up there on top of the hill behind my mom's house but I found a 16 inch print up there and then I found another one that had like a slender spot where the arch is
Starting point is 01:09:00 so I thought maybe it was a male and a female that walked through there I got lucky and got built and got pictures of those. But the thing about is, at my mom's, like I said, it's up on top of the hill. And she's got a metal shed. She had a metal shed. Our garage it was up there. And we always had a fire that was
Starting point is 01:09:22 a fire pit right beside it. And I was out there one night. Ain't nobody there but my mom and her husband. And he was in the bed a lot. He didn't get up and moved. He was pretty well down.
Starting point is 01:09:38 and where the fire pit is, you can see my wife in the window and you can see my mom sitting on the sofa. And they could pretty well see the fire from where I was. But we had a storm come through there like maybe a week prior to this. And it blowed this metal dog pan we had down the hillside. And I kept hearing these rocks hit this pan.
Starting point is 01:10:10 This pan was down inside of these bricks. so I didn't go down here and get it. But I kept hearing these rocks hit paint, and it was intentional. Now, you got to remember, I'm on a hillside. This old man in my mom's with, her husband, which was my stepdad, he was in the bed. He couldn't move. He had arthritis and stuff so bad. He couldn't even move.
Starting point is 01:10:34 We were the only people there. But I walked over there to investigate because it kept happening. and it's dark. So I walk over and look and behind me is the garage and about that time all these acorns start bouncing off the roof
Starting point is 01:10:53 of the garage behind me they were playing with me and I wasn't scared because at that point I've been investigating them and stuff like that online and doing my own hiking and stuff I've been doing this for a lot of years.
Starting point is 01:11:10 now, but I kicked back from it. I don't do it as much anymore, but that happened, and then I'm sitting here one evening right before dark, and we got, we had this field you could see down the hillside close to the road, and I'm sitting there,
Starting point is 01:11:32 and I watch these deer come out of the wood, out of this little patch of woods real fast, and they're looking backwards. something's after them. And I'm thinking to myself, man, there's something going on down there and the dog started barking. The deer went in this other patch
Starting point is 01:11:52 across from that and I looked down there and by this tree I can see a dark silhouette moving in and out, moving like side to side and I'm sitting there watching it and I tried to zoom in with binoculars because I'm sitting right there at the garage
Starting point is 01:12:08 and I got binoculars and all hunting and fishing equipment and stuff. And I tried to zoom in to get a picture of it and I couldn't see it. But I turned around and as I turned back around, look, I've seen something dark, real big going at patch of woods where them deer went in, like real fast. It was so fast that, like within a blink of an eye. And then I heard that deer squeal.
Starting point is 01:12:35 I heard one of the deer squeal and one of them come out. I wasn't going to go down there and check it out. I didn't want to go down in there and see what happened because I wasn't going to mess with it and stuff. But that was kind of spooky. But I go, I get into this Bigfoot group, and I'm not going to mention that name neither. But we get together for a camp out and I get to the camp.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I'm the first one to get there, me and my wife. And it's a forestry around here. and we get there and we're the only people there in this campsite in the whole camp there's nobody there and I started back then I was tent camping
Starting point is 01:13:22 I started pulling out all the stuff to set it up and I happened to walk around a truck and I can see through this channel of trees and I see this swing set that's at the park I see this swing set swinging back and forth with nobody on it. And I'm thinking to win, but there was only one swing set doing that.
Starting point is 01:13:49 And there was another one sitting there by itself. And there's nobody at this park. So I started looking and I looked beside his tree and I see this big hairy creature with his hands on the tree watching his swing. And you could see his cone head and everything, conical head. it's some true stuff there just like the first one I told you about walking across my door that scared to crap out of me but I said honey come over here and check us out and of course you couldn't really see unless you look through this channel of trees I guess it thought it
Starting point is 01:14:27 wasn't being seen and whatever but when she's seen it she was like I'm ready to go I don't will stay here and I don't blame her but I told her it'll be all right I said I never had nothing to happen she knows the tree that fell was the only thing that we really had happened but I've got stuff that's happened to me that I'm probably forgetting about but I wanted to tell them that part many years I've been doing it I've had a lot of strange stuff happened I don't know if Greg Yost or if you heard of him Greg is a gentleman I've tried to talk to for years and I've never been able to get through to him. I'm a good friend of Greg's.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Okay. Yeah, I would love to talk to him. Me and him do a lot of campouts and stuff, but I'm not going to write off his tail. I got my own stuff. Absolutely. He's a good gentleman. He's got a lot of knowledge on it. And he was with me one day, we was at a campsite.
Starting point is 01:15:31 And right next to the Forestry, there's. there's a major highway and we're sitting there and we hear all this commotion. Then we hear fire trucks and ambulances out on the highway. And I look on the hillside and there's one sitting on the hillside. And if you ever talk to him, I'll tell you about it. And this one was tan. It had a tan color to it. It was almost, I don't know, it wasn't brown.
Starting point is 01:15:57 It was tan. Either it was the sun glistening off of it. But it was sitting there. Whatever happened on that highway must have spooked it up on the hillside there. And we could see its back in his head and it was moving his head and looking, trying to look around stuff and see what was going on. And it didn't know we was watching it because this bike was turned to us. But I'm sure if you ever do get a chance to talk to him, he'll tell you about that. But we sat there and watched that for a half an hour.
Starting point is 01:16:30 and that was pretty good. But getting back to what I was telling you about that swing, we all went down there and looked and we found 16-inch footprints down there and going down the hillside because it was pretty leafy, but right there by the tree, it just had rain probably right before we got there a couple days. So there was a good mud print there where the rain had washed down the side of hill and you can see the print. And like 10 people seen it.
Starting point is 01:17:00 the print. But yeah, we had pretty good time out there. But where I live at now, I've had them bang on my back door. And I know birds and owls and stuff like that, I'll fly around and try to get moths or whatever around your lights and stuff like that. But my deck sets about probably six foot off the ground, the floor of it. And whatever it was reached his arm up three to four feet, banged on my door and my deck goes out like almost 10 foot and then goes out probably another 14
Starting point is 01:17:40 and it banged on our door whatever it was I didn't get to see it but there used to be a set of woods across street from our house and we used to see the silhouettes all the time over there So finally me and my grandson decided we was going to walk over there and check him woods out It's for this gentleman bought this property over here We know sooner get in about maybe 30 40 yards And my grandson didn't even know nothing about bigfoot As far as bigfoot was concerned And I told him I said we're going to do some bigfoot and we're going to look and see if we can find anything
Starting point is 01:18:22 We found some broken trees but I was walking and he said, look out, Papua, you're getting ready to step on a print. And we found a print right across the street from my house. We get further than investigating and going further in. And I got pictures of that, but it was on another phone that totally tied on me. But I've got a picture I want to send you of another experience that I had somewhere else. but I get back there and I look and where when I get further back in there, there's like this big dip. It's like a, looks like, just look like maybe a pond could have been there at one time.
Starting point is 01:19:07 But it was really, it was probably about four foot deep. But it had a lot of activity down in there. Something had been moving down in there. And it adds a stitch that I can't describe it. It was like dead skunky, moldy, whatever, down in it. And I got down in it and I looked and I, and all, only thing that was, only thing is my head. When I looked, my head was right level with the ground. And I could see my house through the woods from across the street.
Starting point is 01:19:46 And I'm thinking to myself, man, they've been sitting there watching me all this time. right here in this spot. Back in, I was into all this gifting stuff. We're talking probably 15 years ago. I was into gifting. Doing the gift thing. Everybody says it works. Well, I tried that.
Starting point is 01:20:07 I gifted something on a stump out there. And the strange thing is, I'll come back two days later. There was a deer bone. that was laying on the spot that I gifted. And I can't remember what I gifted. It was something simple, something stupid. I think it was a hot wheel or something.
Starting point is 01:20:30 But it was gone. And that deer bone was there, but the deer bone was broken off, shaped like a knife, shaped like what a knife would look like a dagger. And it was real sharp. I didn't take it, but I stabbed it in that stump and left it there. and I came back a couple more days later and it was gone. But I decided to, when I went back, I decided to go to the right of the woods
Starting point is 01:21:00 and investigate a little further. And I found this spot where walnuts, there was a big old pile of walnut shells. I mean, about probably four foot wide and maybe a foot off the ground where they had been eating these walnuts. and they were using a stone to break them open. Two stones. There was two stones there that they was using to break them open. And I left them stones there.
Starting point is 01:21:31 I thought about getting them, but I left them there. And that spot's probably still back there. I never did get no pictures of that spot. I probably should have. I still can if it's still back there. But this guy took and bought his property and built a house back over there. and it's not even probably 40 yards from that little pit I was telling you about. That pit was probably maybe 10 by 20, maybe.
Starting point is 01:22:03 It was down four foot in the ground. But they didn't make it. It was obviously there from something else. But all that happened. But I was sitting in the living room and I got a chair that kind of faces toward the door. I like to be able to look out the floor. I'm one of them strange people, and I like to see what's outside.
Starting point is 01:22:25 But I'm sitting there, and this is before this guy built his house over there, I'm sitting there, and this little bitty pebble, I happen to turn my head around and see this pebble, hit the window of my storm door, and I got up fast enough to watch it sit and spin on my porch out front.
Starting point is 01:22:47 And it was spinning. and something had throwed that. And the weird things I was finding, I still got the stone, but the weird things I was finding like leaves putting my doork on my truck. Had a truck, and they were putting big leaves,
Starting point is 01:23:07 big bright orange leaves, in the crevice of my handle on my truck. And it happened to me a couple times, and I was like, they're playing with me. But we had this spot out in the backyard. And we always throwed like old rinds and stuff from watermelons and stuff like that back there. Because if you put stuff in your trash out here, Coons will get in it. Always just throwed it out there.
Starting point is 01:23:36 We quit doing it. We quit throwing stuff out there because we started like a compost pile. And I come on one day. And that tree that was right there by where we was throwing. it out, throwing all that stuff out was broke over, about seven foot up in the air. Just snapped, it was a cedar
Starting point is 01:23:56 tree. It was snapped in half. We didn't have no storms come through there and there's a whole row of trees if that storm would have hit them and it broke all of them. If there had been a storm. But we had that happen
Starting point is 01:24:12 and my grandson come over one time and him and my wife, I've got a field right here by my house. It's probably maybe four or five acres. And they watched one go up the hillside out here.
Starting point is 01:24:30 And in the evening times, in the summertime when it's hot, you can see like silhouettes like they're up there sitting on that hill because the breeze does blow up there. It hits that side and always see them, but see them silhouettes. But I've never been back there in them woods. And it, in the
Starting point is 01:24:46 forestry, it's part of the forestry. I could probably go back there any time I want to, but I don't want to do that because I've got a spot up the road that I was doing. I was doing a different type of gifting. I was doing like crystals and stuff. Okay. And that's another story I can get into. But I got a spot up the road that I stacked a few stones and I put some crystals on. Well, I came back to check that and there was like two or three,
Starting point is 01:25:18 crystals gone and one them was on the ground. So I picked up the one and put it back on there and I left and I came back probably about a week later and there was two more crystals put back on there but that day I decided
Starting point is 01:25:34 to look because I found a footprint and I've been hunting all my life I know the difference between the man print and whatever I started following this print and I followed it And I kept following it. And I wound up back in the same spot.
Starting point is 01:25:53 It scared me to death because really what was going on, it was following me. You see what I'm saying? And I realized that at that time. So I got out of the woods because that was one of the first times I ever really got scared besides when they walked across my doorway. I felt like it was stalking me. You know what I'm saying? It's a weird feeling.
Starting point is 01:26:21 goodness you a lot going on oh yeah the weird thing is when I was like 18 years old I talked to this psychic lady and she predicted how many kids I have and told me that I would meet up with an Indian chief and I'd know who it was and his name was Chief Tall Oak and when I see him he'll be real tall the thing that walked across my door I believe they're a type of Indian in a sense, a different type. But what walked across my door had to have been at least nine foot tall because my steps went down two and a half steps to my sidewalk. And my door was six five tall.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Think about it, that's nine foot. When he walked across, he walked right across by sidewalk. within seven feet of me, he could have reached in and grabbed me if that's what he wanted to do. That right there, that's what I really started getting into it. And I've been doing it ever since. I kicked back for about five years and my mom died and stuff like that, so I ain't done nothing in about five years. And I really ain't had nothing happening around here,
Starting point is 01:27:43 except for every now and I'll hear that owl call that I know is not an owl. they mimic alcohols and I'm gonna tell you this other story too because this is a good one and I don't care if anybody believes me they don't have to if they don't want to I don't have no reason to I don't have no reason to lie
Starting point is 01:28:03 but I go hunting out and this is probably about 20 miles from here and it's got a cabin sitting on it that's sitting off across from a lake I took my wife to this cabin And we had to clean it up and everything to stay in it because my buddy oversees the property. And somebody's been there in a while.
Starting point is 01:28:28 But we're sitting there and I got a picture of a Sasquatch that I'm going to send you. And I'll give you an opportunity to look at it. But the thing about it is, we were staying at this cabin and we built us a fire outside. And it was almost close to getting dark. and I've seen this movement over across the lake and I've seen the tree moving I know a buckles taking scrape its antlers and all that stuff
Starting point is 01:29:01 but that ain't what this was it was a dark figure and we kept watching it for about a half an hour and finally I got my phone out and I zoomed in with my phone and started snapping pictures and I got a few good pictures but as soon as I took the last picture I took this loud scream it just it penetrated you
Starting point is 01:29:29 you know it was like whoa you know and then all of a sudden all these coyotes started going off now where I'm at in this cabin there's 350 acres there and it all runs back
Starting point is 01:29:48 into the who's your national forest there's been a lot of sightings up there but and when we first got there I got a backtrack sometimes because I do forget things I'm 57 I'm not saying I got all timers or anything but when we first got there my wife you had to park in behind the cabin and my wife went back there and get some she said and she said honey there's a black man out of during the woods. And I'm like, man, no, there ain't nobody around here for a couple miles. That's when all that happened.
Starting point is 01:30:28 But getting further into it, obviously, I'm not scared of them anymore. But I hunt these woods and we got like a real tree come out to this property and put a bunch of deer blands on stilts, put two of them out here on this property. And I got a 243 with a scope. I'm looking and I'm in this deer blind and I'm looking and I see this movement and I put it on a scope and it's a gray it's a gray Sasquot sitting Indian style on the ground looking towards the deer blind now this is going to sound strange and I don't want to go too far into the woo because I don't that's a little bit woo when you start talking like this but in my mind
Starting point is 01:31:26 it said to me the deer behind you I turn around in this blank because it's got windows all way around it I turn around and there's 10 deer behind me so of course I turn around and I pop one of them and it takes off running and I hear this whoop where it ran toward while I'm watching it because there's a hillside going up and I'm watching it and where that whooped I didn't see anything there but the deer went the other direction and then I heard another whoop and then I didn't see the deer anymore after that but I hit that deer and I went to track that deer and there was a heck of a trail of blood and I tracked that deer and I tracked that deer and I tracked that deer for a mile that deer just up and disappeared.
Starting point is 01:32:26 And the only thing I can think is one of them throwed it over its shoulder and the blood drained down and hit the ground because I didn't see any prints from the deer per se and I didn't see no feet print neither, you know what I'm saying? Which was strange. But before that happened, me and my buddy He was in that same very same deer blind. We started hearing a bunch of strange hollering.
Starting point is 01:33:01 It didn't even sound like a bigfoot to me. And I said, maybe it's bigfoot. About that time, whatever it was come crashing through the trees, and you can see the trees moving, but you couldn't see nothing. And I had my phone out, and I started to snapping pictures because at the time we was taking pictures of the scenery around it with our phones
Starting point is 01:33:30 and I kept snapping pictures and I don't know how far you believe in this stuff or anything but I think I caught one in mid cloak if that's what they call it cloaking in that picture and I got that picture too I'll show you and you can make a drop mind on that too
Starting point is 01:33:52 but you can tell it's not part of the foliage or nothing. It's going into going out a visual. But I'll be glad to share those with you. I'll send them to you on the, what is it? What do you say? It's Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Okay, that's easy enough. Yeah, I'll send them to you on that.
Starting point is 01:34:16 But man, I've had a lot of stuff. Back when I was 11 years old, I used to cut through this set of woods. all the time to go to the store, the grocery store, and it was a little trail that even the deer used. And I used to feel like I was being followed back there. And back then I've seen all them stick structures and stuff where they break stuff over and do all kinds of stuff like that. And I never paid no mind.
Starting point is 01:34:41 I never thought nothing about it. But I always felt like I was being followed back there, even at 11. Some people say, I don't know if I'm just gifted or whatever, with them feeling like they're free around me to do things. They say some people are, but I've had a lot of encounters. I forgot more than I'm telling you, even with Greg Yost,
Starting point is 01:35:06 we've had some good times. But I pretty much told you all the good ones. I'll leave that up to y'all, believe it or not. I love it, man. It's incredible lifetime of accounts, and I can definitely tell you. tell it's just the start. There's probably some other stuff that you have forgotten, as he said. But thank you so much for coming up and for sharing. And I hope to get that email from me.
Starting point is 01:35:33 I'll keep an eye out for that. But is this a conversation I'd be able to share on my podcast as well? Oh, sure. Heck, people have probably recognized me. I just don't want to put my name out there anymore. I'm just going to tell you this. I jumped out of all the groups I used to be in because all the drama. You get people like what we had just before I come on talking stupid and if you don't experience it, you don't believe it. And I don't care if people believe me or not. I've had people tell me I was crazy. But then there's people that know me that's been out with me and know I can find them if I want to. I quit doing all that looking, like I said, about five years ago.
Starting point is 01:36:21 And the reason I've done that is because I feel like we as people are to understand something. It's not that we don't need to be in the woods. We got every right to be in the woods. When you go in the woods and you keep going constantly, you're interfering with their life. We live a different life. So that's another reason why I went back here in these woods behind my house, because I want them to feel like it's a free zone for them, because that woods ties into where I do,
Starting point is 01:36:54 where I have done some research in the past. I'm just trying not to do anything close to my house, because I do get activity here every now and in, and I don't want them to feel like they need to be scared. I think people need to understand. Don't go out there every day, every weekend, and bug them, man, because they got to eat and do all kinds of stuff. They got to do what they need to do too.
Starting point is 01:37:16 But I appreciate you having me on. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Maybe I'll get back on another time and we'll talk about something else. Hey, there you go. I look forward to it. And, yeah, I'll keep an eye out for your email. Thanks for coming up, sir.
Starting point is 01:37:32 You're welcome, partner. Be good. You too. Wow, that was absolutely fantastic. My goodness. What a fantastic amount of things he has experienced. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain,
Starting point is 01:38:06 or if you're a National Park Ranger or Forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field or trucker with government contracts, and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul, and if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor,
Starting point is 01:38:49 a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat, and you saw something that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous, you can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. The world needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story. We've got the mic. See you in the woods.
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