Bigfoot Society - Held Against Our Will by a Bigfoot Family!

Episode Date: August 17, 2024

Jeremiah receives a surprising phone call from listener Cindy just before a July 4th parade. Cindy, from Indiana, shares her 30-year-old story of encountering a Bigfoot family, followed by a UFO sight...ing and time travel experiences. Cindy's vivid recollection provides a detailed narrative about a baby Bigfoot with changing appearances, an enigmatic UFO hovering nearby, and a group of 'Men in Black'. Following the initial story, Cindy's voicemails delve into more encounters, including a haunted doll, dogman sightings, and ghost investigations, making this episode a thrilling dive into extraordinary paranormal experiences.Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.comWant to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:09 I just want to be careful that once you wish for, you just might encounter. The following interview took a long time to get to happen. It's important to know that this phone call was a random call that I picked up right before the July 4th parade. and so I was really not in the usual mindset for an interview, but something told me to pick up the phone, and I'm glad I did. Due to the fact the individual did not have Internet, and it's the first time I've had to actually send a guest release through the mail. I'm glad I finally got that guest release back,
Starting point is 00:02:50 and I present to you the following reports from Cindy. Enjoy. I've been so excited about my best. Bigfoot story. I haven't been able to tell it for 30 years. She was real, Jeremiah. She was a real creature. Nobody believes us. They think we're crazy. And where are you calling from today, Cindy? I'm calling from Indiana, sound, mind, and body. But I remember this. Both my parents wanted me to tell this story after when they passed away. But we actually came in contact with the Bainfoot family and an ass well child. It was pretty intelligent. They named.
Starting point is 00:03:30 her after me because she wanted to know us better. And so they taught her just saying the word hi, they taught her speak English, and she looked very happy with us, but we can tell she was very homesick. And so finally, we stayed around the park for about six hours, and finally, a Bigfoot tribe came through, and they took her back home. And there was a UFO in the area. And we were wondering if that had something to do with our, we went through time travel. It was about like something like back in the Indian days, you know, when they sort of lived in the caves.
Starting point is 00:04:14 But we actually, there were five big foot people and we thought it had something to do with time travel. We tried going back several times after this, but there was no siding, you know, there was no time travel. went back to normal in the park, and I actually told somebody about it in Turkey Run, but, you know, 30 years later, they were nice enough to listen, but anyway, they're nice about that, but we want you know this was God's truth, and we're telling the truth. Cindy, so this happened in Turkey Run Park in Indiana? Yes, it did, but like I said, creatures like that normally don't live there, so what had to experience was time travel.
Starting point is 00:04:57 So what year around was this? About 1983 in the early 1980s, my dad definitely believed in Bainfield, and he always wasn't. My dad's name was David Ketcher. He was an Indianapolis public school teacher, Carl Wilde, School 79, Room 5, I mean 5th grade, room 23. And see, back then you didn't go around blabbing about stuff like this. It was called taboo. People didn't believe in UFOs, and they didn't believe in Fanefoot or Sasquatch or, you know, any of that thing like they do today. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:38 So you're saying your dad was kind of like a Bigfoot enthusiast? Yes, I was. And I'm a psychic, and I had a true paragonal encounter here. It caused me to have some psychic abilities. So they know I have, I can prove my theory. because I'm still having experiences from this. Cindy, can you take us back to that time in 1983 when you had that experience in Turkey Run exactly,
Starting point is 00:06:09 kind of walk us through what happened that day? Well, we had lunch at Turkey Run, and they always have great food and a great lodge. And like I said, it was a father and my mother and my little brother, he was about eight years old then. and I was much younger and much better health than I just walk without a cake. And anyway, you know how getting old is, but my memory is still intact. I am vividly recalling this as if it only happened yesterday,
Starting point is 00:06:41 but it was like I'm excited about it because it was like something out of those TV shows that you see on TV about, you know, The Lost World or something like that coming on. But this was true time travel, and as I said, We started to go down the hiking trail, and we saw some deer out there, and we tried to feed them. They were pretty fair. And the lady at the desk told us that if we saw any bears, she said for heaven's sake, don't encourage him, don't feed him. So we promised them we were too afraid of bears. But what made us strong to this little creature was she was afraid, and she needed us for protection.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And so we stayed with her until her tribe came back. Were you saying the deer was afraid? or the Bigfoot was afraid? No, we were afraid of the Bigfoot. We were afraid of it, but it cautiously approached us, sorry. We cautiously approached us, and they wanted their child back. And so, Dad, we were planning on taking home. And after the experience, we just found we were going to tell this story.
Starting point is 00:07:48 So I'm so grateful. I just found you on the YouTube. I've been searching all three years for a Bigfoot. foot channel that I can tell this to. I'm so glad you found my channel finally Cindy. So I'm going to ask some clarifying questions along the way if that's okay to make sure
Starting point is 00:08:05 we get the whole story. So you're hiking down the trail, you saw the deer, the deer was afraid and then get us to it sounds like eventually then you saw a baby big foot and then there were some parents involved. We yes we first
Starting point is 00:08:21 it was like a you know how you see those. You know how you see those in the movies? where they pass out a fog-like thing, you know, that kind of covers the territory. It was like walking through a thick fog, and we were like, where in the, heck are we? Are we still back in our time? Dad says, that's the big food is not what worries me. He says, how do we get back into our time? He says, what if we come out at the other end and we're still trapped in their time and not in ours?
Starting point is 00:08:52 But even as we crept further into the wood, the deer seemed to disappear. And there was no, I forgot to add, there was no noise in the woods, no airplanes, no car traffic coming from the modern world. There weren't even any birds, no crows, nothing. It was silence. Okay, so you started walking through fog, which made you think, well, maybe there's a time travel aspect. Did you actually have a visual on a UFO as well at that time? Yeah, when I was crazy, you think I was crazy. I'm not going to lie about it.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I got nothing to hide, and I don't mind if you use my program. People ought to be aware that these experiences happen. Oh, absolutely. I just want to be careful that once you wish for, you just might encounter. You know, the old same, you know, if you wish for it, you've got to be able to own it. No, I totally agree with that. Just be careful what you wish for. So you're walking through the fog.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You say, well, maybe we're in a different time period. Do you see a UFO, correct? Yes, I did. It wasn't a silver. It was a typical flying saucer dish, but it was black, and it had, like, yellow and white lights underneath. It was making a low-humbing noise. And was it parked, or was it flying up in the air?
Starting point is 00:10:21 It was hovering. It was hovering. But like I said, it was invisible to the outside world because UFOs have this ability to not be detected. That's why a lot of the reports are not showing up on the Blue Book project that they don't want us to know about. And I think they did find aliens in Area 51, and I think they're still there. I would agree there's some interesting things going on out there that we don't know all of it. And can I say another thing that happened from this Bigfoot experience? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:55 When it's the men in black. When it's the men in black. Okay. So I didn't want to say. I didn't want to say that. Yeah, we could totally get there. Yeah. So you've had the UFO encounter.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Then after that, was that when you started to see the Bigfoot or the baby Bigfoot? Yeah. Baby, yes, yes. Can you kind of walk us through, like, what you remember, how it looked, like how it was acting, a good description of it, maybe? I mean the UFO? Like the baby Bigfoot. Oh, it acted like it was a, when we saw it from the back, it looked like a chimpanzee.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And then when, that's interesting part. Well, it looked at first like it had a chimpanzee's face. And then when it turned around when we first encountered it, it had a humanoid little girl's face. and become completely characteristic. But did you know that big foot can disguise themselves because anybody ever tell you that before? So I've heard a hypothesis that there could be a creature that changes itself to something that the person looking at it
Starting point is 00:12:05 would be more comfortable looking at, and I think that might be kind of similar to what you're saying. Yeah, because when it first looked at me, it looked like an ape, and it was making hoody sounds like they knew, who, who, who, you know, like all that stuff. Like, monkeys or apsehound, and some of the others were running around on all fours, but this little girl was walking on two feet and tried to imitate it. It was that smart.
Starting point is 00:12:31 There were multiple Bigfoot in the area you're saying? Five, five, five. Five, okay. And were they all juveniles, or were they also adults? They were all adults, all adults. There was sort of like an older male, it seemed to be like the leader of the group. There was like a mother and father and two, you were right, two adolescents. Two adolescents.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Sorry, so you said mother, father, two adolescents? Yeah, and one thing, wait, but I need one more, sorry. One two, that's three. One more. Yeah, sorry, one more adolescent. I couldn't tell whether they were girls or boys. Gotcha. Now, you said that, so did you actually see the face of the adolescence change from a chimp to a humanoid type face?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Yes, I did. Yes, I did. I was on no medication, no medication at the time, no drugs, no alcohol, nothing. Have you ever seen anything in a movie, like a sci-fi movie that was similar to what you saw that day where it changed its face? Well, not exactly. Not exactly. Okay. They've shown them for encounters, but they didn't show them having a camera.
Starting point is 00:13:43 by changing from something to it. I didn't see anything that could influence me. Right. That is a thing where I've never really had a report where the person saw the face change like that. It's very interesting. How tall would you say it was? Well, the mother of the tribe seemed to be like only five feet tall
Starting point is 00:14:06 and the rest of them seem to be like six feet tall. When they were making gutter old monkey cells to communicate. The rest of them could speak English like the little child and the black, it was like,
Starting point is 00:14:21 and can I mention something else? It was like she had an ESP and I think this was how she was tapping into learning our language. She could read our brain thoughts or mind thoughts and listen to what we were saying
Starting point is 00:14:35 inside her mind. Is there a conversation going on you think maybe through mind speak? Yeah, I think she was trying to read her mind. I think they do have ESP and they can tell what we're thinking. I think they're that smart.
Starting point is 00:14:50 What were the thoughts that you were experiencing during this time? Well, I sent in my mind, who are you, wherever you from? I was afraid we were going to go to another planet. I wanted to go home. I had a favorite TV show on that night. Some kind of show, I forget what. I remember I had some kind of show I was. one didn't get back out. Tim John's back in those days, they didn't have these, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:17 recorders very much back then that you can tape with show and blotting to again. But yeah, the only movies I saw back then, they didn't have so much Mayfoot. I never saw Bayfoot back in the movie back in the 80s or TV show. Mom wouldn't let me watch them if they were on. And then she got stuff with me, meet the real one. That was always so funny. That's really funny. What did they?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Oh, go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not saying about telling us. And when the movie, Paul Kroner's, because I know what she did, and when she took after a precaution, when the movie Pulpherstice came out, oh, I thought it was great. And anyway, I was in the home, but she said, no, we're going to watch it. It was a library at Speedway Public Library for 30 years, 35 years. And she took me over there to the meeting room to watch the movie.
Starting point is 00:16:10 She said after meeting a big book, she said, I don't want you watching this movie. I would bring home something else. Wow, that's wild. Thank you for sharing that. When you had those thoughts in your head, did you have any returned from the creatures? Not yet, but we're still hoping they find us all the way here in Avon.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yes, sure, definitely. Do you remember any... So I'm just going to ask you some questions about different details to see what we can remember. So do you remember anything about the hair color or the length? It was like a monkey, like a chimpanzee. It was a chestnut color. It was on hair.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And you can tell the woman she had, you know, like the monkeys you see on TV on the monkey shows, you know, live animals, they had a frontie that looked like the chest of a female ape. But they wore no clothing of any time. And the female stuck to high heaven. And I remember she had a severe body odor. I wish I couldn't give her a bath that night. Bless her. You can smell her all the way down the path.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Gotcha. Were they, how are they interacting with each other when you saw the group? They come on great with each other, except them female, didn't get along with the odor. A white creature. He was always trying to dominate her, and she doesn't like it. You know, how in some marriages where the wife doesn't get along with the male? because he tries being the boss
Starting point is 00:17:42 and she was independent enough she didn't like it to do well I'll say that. Gotcha. What was it that made you think that the one creature was like the older one in charge? Because it wasn't running as fast.
Starting point is 00:18:01 It had difficulty walking like it hurt his leg or something like an arthritis. They were so much like us. It was absolutely phenomenal. What was the hair like for the older one? It was thick.
Starting point is 00:18:15 It was thick covering. They had it on every area except their chest. It was like covered on their chest. You can see. But, you know, it was covered real thick chestnut hair down on their legs. So the older one had chestnut color as well. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And very interesting. I'm thinking real quick. So let's remember, let's go back to what the faces look like. It feels like you got a really good look at the face. Can you describe things like the eyes, the nose, the mouth? The eyes were black. The eyes were black. Now, when you say black eyes, do you mean the entire eye was black or just the people?
Starting point is 00:19:00 The entire eye was black, black. Okay, so a full black eye, no white spot showing. Okay. And it had a grip, it had like a frown expression on it. male looked at us like it didn't trust it kept its distance and it held it us entire time. Very interesting. So you're saying a frown from the male, so you weren't able to see the teeth at all?
Starting point is 00:19:25 No. Okay. But it didn't like me. Gotcha. I felt threatened by it. I felt threatened by it. How white across the face did the mouth go? Was it very drawn out?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Well, it was a wide. It was a wide. was a wide grimace, and then it kind of went into an evil smile like it was trying to threaten us. I felt like the little girl was there to protect us from the herd. I felt like she was our protector because we were telling to it. Gotcha. You've mentioned that there was, or how long was the hair? Sorry, there's a lot of questions I have in my mind right now.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Well, it's about, oh, like, it's just like, I don't know how to say this. It's just like a chimpanzee. I don't know how to describe it in that link. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here, you need the Intuit ERP.
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Starting point is 00:22:25 for GSC Yeah, it looks like the missing link if you
Starting point is 00:22:38 it was a cross between a big foot and a missing link know than what
Starting point is 00:22:43 Charles Star one's there was man came from the missing link have you
Starting point is 00:22:47 have you seen photos in books or movies that look similar
Starting point is 00:22:50 to what you saw that day no just chimpanzees the actual
Starting point is 00:22:56 real chimpanzees as close as I can describe. It has the ears of nose and the mouth. That's what it looked like before it changed to a humanoid face. Okay, gotcha. So when it was a chimp look, it actually had you could see ears. What was the shape of the head at that time?
Starting point is 00:23:14 It was like a regular chimp's head. Okay. Gotcha. When it changed to a humanoid face, did the shape of the head change at all? Nope. That's what was terrifying about it. I didn't know whether it planned on, whether it was a meeting, or whether it planned on capturing this.
Starting point is 00:23:32 But luckily, Dad said it was like it was trying to hypnotize us. And, you know, he was staying there so it could do something to us. And dad said, I'm not staying around. And so we finally broke free. And we all ran back down the path through the fog. And luckily, we came out into the parking lot of the turkey run. And we were just happy to be back. I would never want to leave her.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I would never want to travel out in space because you have no control. And I would never want to go to another planet because I'd be too scared now. So absolutely, I'd be right there with you, right? So your dad got to thinking that they were trying to hypnotize you or keep you in that area. So they can take us back wherever they came from. Did he ever say, I'm sure you guys talked about this, Or maybe you didn't. Do you ever say there was a certain point where something happened
Starting point is 00:24:28 where then I realized they were trying to hypnotize us? Dad, Dad, who just like broke the spell. Dad broke the spell. They were trying to work on him the most because he seemed to have the most control. And they wanted me for some reason, but I don't know why. They were trying to get me because I was communicating with the real most. Try to remember, do you remember anything about the arms of the creatures? like lengths or how they looked like a, I'm sorry, she was swinging of like walking, almost walking like a person,
Starting point is 00:25:05 but was swinging the arms like an ape would if they walked more than a while, short while on the legs. Gotcha. She was swinging back and forth. And the hands were they covered with hair or how did they look? Oh, yeah, they looked hideous. She had the dark fingernails that a chimp would have. And can you imagine living right now when you couldn't shave or do anything else? It would be, well, the question is, is like, if that's all you know, is it really a bad thing to you, right?
Starting point is 00:25:40 I don't know. Well, I want to take a shower once in a while. I would, too, but I know what that's like, right? So when you saw them as a group, were they doing any activities together, like creating structures or cooking or anything? They were washing in the tree. They were washing in the creek. They were washing their hands, I think, is had a kill or something like killer school or something. They were washing their hands and they were hooting.
Starting point is 00:26:06 They were bouncing up and down on their lays, like squatting at the water and going, ooh. Gotcha. Oh, very interesting. Do you think there was any maybe, like, fish catching or fishing involved? Could them in, could them in. I wouldn't go and stick around to find out. Yeah, right. So it sounds like, so you were coming into this foggy area with the UFO, and then did you see them
Starting point is 00:26:29 alongside the creek or when you came upon them, they were actually in the creek? They were actually there already doing their thing. Very, very interesting. Do you remember anything about the forehead of the creature? It looks like a human forehead with the wrinkles. Okay. Was it pronounced? Three wrinkles.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah. Yeah, three wrinkles. And like I said, all of them, even the little girl had black eyes. lens. I definitely have more questions if you have a little bit more time. That's fine. That's fine. Sure.
Starting point is 00:27:08 So, so, so, so, so. Okay. Did you see them walking around a lot? Well, they were kind of swatting at first. Then when they saw it, they ran back into the bush. At first, they were just trying to make kinds of conversations, like, browning and snapping in each other. Boy, they didn't get longer.
Starting point is 00:27:29 When you see something walk, it's called the gate, how a human will walk. It has a certain gate to it usually. Did it have, these creatures have an unusual gate to them, how they were walking? It was like an ape-like walk. When you see a chimpanzee, it wasn't human. It was like a chimpanzee walking, trying to walk. Gotcha. Like they didn't have that much strength.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Okay. What was the posture of the creatures like? Kind of bad over. like sloping forward and over yeah yeah it wasn't straight up like a human okay did you see any ways that they had been
Starting point is 00:28:09 affecting the environment around them in that area yeah it was totally calm probably quiet it was it was odd like there was nothing for the present with you except the clothes on your back what you brought with you gotcha any like pushed over trees or
Starting point is 00:28:27 broken tree limbs or things they might have been. Nope, nothing like that. You mentioned a few times where they'd been making sounds towards you and towards each other. What kind of sounds did you hear in general in that time? Just their monkey-like creatures. Gotcha. How long do you think you were there in their presence for? About an hour and a half. An hour and a half. Okay, so that's a really long time for sure. I told you they were out to get me. They wanted me. because I have psychic talent and I could communicate. And they were trying to control dad's mind so they can get control of me.
Starting point is 00:29:09 They didn't care much about my mother or my brother. They were non-believers at the time. But boy, mom sure changed after that. An hour and a half. So were there certain activities that happened during that time? Or were you just kind of staring at each other and like, oh, I don't know what's going on here. Should we get out of here?
Starting point is 00:29:28 I was trying to break free of their trans. Like I said, it was like they were trying to prove us in a hypnotism-like control. I was just marked for them. All I think I said was that I want to go home and he says we all do. Oh, that's actually really scary. They wouldn't let us go. Yeah. You mean they wouldn't let us go.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Oh, so it wasn't like... I'm lucky to be here. Yeah. I'm lucky to be here today. It wasn't like you were just hanging out there. It's like you guys want, you didn't want to be there for the hour and a half. You were trying to get away. No, no.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Wow. No. Okay. So. I wanted to go home for I was starting to cry. He was a little boy. The funny thing is, is that I've actually been to Turkey Run State Park in Indiana back in the 90s. So it was a while back.
Starting point is 00:30:21 What particular, can you share? Oh, it's a very nice place. It is. Yeah. Can you share what particular part of the park this took? placing? It was around the end. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:33 When you first come out and you go across, and I was out, you know, this is back in the age, this is hard for me to remember, know exactly what was there, but I remember the in itself, and some of those state parts had a horse rides, and I used to ride a horse named Ranger with my grandparents. I always wanted a horse, but Grandpa had a farm, but he didn't live on it. And he said, I'm not getting a horse sending. Right, yeah. Horses can be fun, but they can also be quite a handful.
Starting point is 00:31:09 From what I remember, this state park has very deep canyons for that area that you can offer. Oh, that's where we were at. That's where we were at. That was that canyon. Okay. Where it shows that cliff overhanging. So you were in the canyon. Was it that?
Starting point is 00:31:26 the area that you had seen these creatures in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where the pod was. Now I'm going to tell you. That I thought we weren't done for, I thought, boy, this is Edgar Rice Burroughs, Los boro, World. I said, we're going into it. I always liked that movie, but I never wanted to experience it.
Starting point is 00:31:43 You never wanted to go yourself. So the thing about that is that part of my life, like I wasn't super into Big Five. I'd watch some stuff before we kind of got out of it. I was like junior high-ish, maybe. But going down that cat, that canyon, I remember it's a different, you feel like you're going somewhere else and you just back into France story times. You get some weird vibes down there, I remember, as a little kid.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I bet it's haunted. I bet it's haunted. I don't know. I would wish the people, if they've also experienced stuff there, that they would reach out to me. Your father, was there an event that led him to first believe in Bigfoot before this? Yeah, he saw UFO before this. I didn't want to say this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:27 But he had seen a UFO earlier prior to this, and that's how we got into this. I am. That's how I saw the man in black was before this experience was, but he had had an encounter. He said, can I tell you another story that happened with Babefoot after this experience? Oh, absolutely. This is where we're getting into. Sorry. My dad had a UFO.
Starting point is 00:32:55 experience. And then that same year, he went to Indiana State Fair. And you know, Indiana Coliseum Explosion, dad said that he felt like he went through time travel after this. He was at the Indiana State Fair
Starting point is 00:33:11 a week to hear this. My mom and her brother were coming back from some of the snap stands, and he said that he had spoken to a young woman that was dressed in a little fashion closing that in the fire of Coliseum was back in the 1960s.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And anyway, he had met a young lady, and she said her name was Lydia, and she had to get back to her family in Fort Wayne. Now, my question is, does a young lady by the name of Lydia Hunt the State Fairgrounds from the Coliseum Explosion that night? Oh, goodness. Wow. Yeah. That is really interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And what year was that again, that your dad experienced that? That was back in the late 1980s. Wow. Oh, that's wild. Can you share the, you said there was a men in black aspect to everything? Yeah. Yeah, they had not looked like men. They were, when they came to him, you know, in that experience, they had no faces.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Really, faceless individuals. And they were dressed in all black. The typical black hat, the black suit, the black shoes, but they didn't say anything. They just observed him. They were at his front doorstep, and they just observed him for about five to ten minutes, and then they disappeared. They did speak one thing that dad looked at him. He always like Frank Edwards, you know, flying saucers.
Starting point is 00:34:44 He said, I never thought we've been doing this, and all this is true. And that one guy said, our way on earth. yet and then they disappeared. Oh, wow. That's very interesting. Oh, here's a question. Over your time with the Bigfoot and Turkey run, were you able to get any pictures or was there any evidence?
Starting point is 00:35:05 No, we didn't have any pictures. No, we did not bring. But we do have the memories. We do have the memories. Absolutely, which are priceless for sure. I wish we would have had a camera. We would have been millionaires by now. I would have had to gone to this.
Starting point is 00:35:21 retirement home and I can live like I wanted to. Absolutely. I don't like retirement home cooking, however. Did you? I don't know. Maybe I should have been captured by the UFO. Maybe they would have had better quit on another plan. And on here on the same menu, I swear, is the same lunch and dinner every day, never
Starting point is 00:35:43 varies very much. And it's the same thing. Now, wouldn't you rather be captured by the UFO than eat this same menu every day? thing come on you have a beautiful spirit Cindy I'm really thankful for you for you sharing everything today did you ever look to see if there are any other encounters like this and turkey run over the years yes but they had nothing but their encounters and things like like I said we've ever chosen to have this a spirit so we can tell others you still want to use my story absolutely yeah it's it's an incredible so what's your name what's your name so
Starting point is 00:36:19 my name's Jeremiah pardon me It's Jeremiah. So after this... And what's the name of your story? The name of your channel. It's called Bigfoot Society. So what I would like to... Is this a regular telephone number or is it a cell phone?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yes, yes. Is it a cell phone? Regular land phone. But this is a true story. I'm not hiding any details. I'm not making any of this up. Was this a good interview today? I'll tell you, this is one of the coolest ones I've ever had and it was unexpected.
Starting point is 00:36:48 So I'm glad you called. Oh, but you will have me, you will have me. I want to be on your, I like you, and I like your show, and I want to really be on your broadcast. Well, thank you for calling, Cynthia. I really appreciate it, and you have a great July 4th, okay? Will you call me back when this happens? Can I have your phone number again? I forgot it.
Starting point is 00:37:12 It's 515-809-0165. 1555, what? Uh, 515. 809.0165. 809.1.1.0165. 0165. I can't wait. I can't wait. Awesome. Well, thank you for calling. Cynthia. It's been a pleasure chatting with you.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And I'll be sending something in the mail, okay? But you really do think I'll get on your show. If I get that release back, it will. Yeah. definitely. Thank you. Thank you. Cindy's story is far from over as you can see from the following voicemails I received from her. And I now have more questions than ever, as you'll soon find out. Hi, Jeremy. Sorry to bother you one last time. Dave and I saw a podcast about viewers' comments, and you said you like to have a Dodman story. Well, have I got a story for you? It stemmed from a UFO. Remember I was telling you about the UFO, that's true story. Now, back in about 1979 through 1980, my father was a school teacher in Indianapolis School,
Starting point is 00:38:38 79, grade 23, room 5, and he also had a license to be a principal. And, well, anyway, it was some evening on a weekend that he was traveling down in Country Road in Brown County, Indiana. and he had a new puppy with him. She was a Dodson puppy, and her name was Sandy. Well, here's where the story begins. Dad was coming down the road, all of a sudden his car got stolen,
Starting point is 00:39:07 it died in the middle of the roadway, and that was starting to panic because the doors, the windows to the car wouldn't open, the radio was shutting on and off, and the car was stalling. So finally, the car went completely, silence and then he heard a low humming noise that sounded like it was coming from above the car he was driving an old's mobile at the time and it was fairly new car back then that anyway he and the dog
Starting point is 00:39:39 was trapped by a UFO he finally got the window open and he said it was this difling inside the car you couldn't breathe and the dog was having trouble he picked her up and let her breathe out the car window trying to get some air well Anyway, here's what happened. The UFO was carrying on, maintenance noises, and he saw white and yellow lights underneath the saucer. It was a traditional black flying saucer. Well, as it was busy doing whatever was going on at the time, he was set back in time to 1956 to 1957 for about an hour, he still was unable to open the car doors to get out.
Starting point is 00:40:23 But anyway, he began to really panic down. The times and scenes were delayed back to that time. He saw no more modern cars on the highway. Even the farmhouses and regular houses that met along the way and the billboards were gone. Everything was back to the time. And then he was stuck in that time frame for about half an hour. He can see and hear the cars pass by
Starting point is 00:40:49 and the people talking in the cars. They were that close. seemed not to notice him. So finally, the UFO left, and about five minutes later, he suddenly came to himself, and he was on outskirts of Indie Annapolis from Brownsburg, and he had no idea about the time frame in his watch. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here and one here you need the Intuit ERP if scaling your business feels like start starting starting starting over you need the Intuit ERP
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Starting point is 00:43:20 talk to G.S. One thing my dad says that right before he blacked out,
Starting point is 00:43:34 he saw an alien's staring through the car window at him. And they looked like your typical alien entities with the wide almond eyes. And this one was kind of gray, green, looked like a man. But anyway, he was staring in through the car window before my dad passed out and found himself back in Indianapolis. Where here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:43:58 He made it back home, and he was absolutely terrified. And mom was best in his favorite meatloat dinner for supper. He said, Dave, what's wrong? She said, you look like you see your ghost. He said, worse. And when the doorbell rang for about six weeks later, Dad refused to open the door and always ran into the bedroom or either had Mom answer it or he didn't answer the door,
Starting point is 00:44:22 he wouldn't even go out and get the bell. But anyway, he was raised a man in black, and by the way, he didn't see him. When he regained his memory, he dreamed about him every single night for about oh six weeks prior to that time. But he had nightmares. He woke up sweating. He had trouble breathing.
Starting point is 00:44:44 He had very harsh breathing spells. He panicked. Anyway, after about a month, they decided to go on with their life. So the puppy was still there, and she was still kind of fidgety. Well, anyway, that's the same, but that's the UFO cause. was, you know, I told you about that incident we had at Bainfoot, and I didn't tell you about another Bainfoot signing, or I don't remember we had two of them.
Starting point is 00:45:15 One was at this grandmother's farm. I don't think I told you this, because I didn't think about it at the time, and it just kind of escaped my mind that it's true, too. He was on my grandmother's farm in Winchester, Indiana. And again, the same scenario, he saw a white albino Baino Bainfoot, and she was hiding around one of the buildings. He put up no trespassing size on my grandmother's farm.
Starting point is 00:45:40 There was a 100-year-old barn there, and a creature fell through the thawing, and he helped it out, and he fed it and everything, but anyway, it was much like the other one that we saw, and we're wondering if it's not a new species of bay put in Indiana, because we had two sightings of it. And, you know, have you ever wondered about Bigfoot where Bigfoot really comes from? Is it a descendant of Neanderical man? Is it still an evolution or is it an alien from another planet? I mean, we had two sightings of it. But we're in the last part in case you're wondering, here's the part where Dogman comes in.
Starting point is 00:46:24 You wouldn't hear a report about Dogman, okay? Well, you've got it. Here's the part, after the animals dispersed, and we saw they're, safely going back to their woods home on my grandmother's farm, and it had a 100-year-old barn I'm telling you about. But anyway, after a month after that, that had another sighting from the UFO. We don't know why it was following us, and the men in black, we did determine that we saw them on one occasion.
Starting point is 00:46:54 They don't look anything like they do in the movies. They're far more too terrifying. And anyway, what happened was we were sitting at home in the living room having suffered one evening. We were just watching the news on television, and mom was cooking some type of breakfast meal because dad said he was getting tired of everything else and wanted, like, you know, pantase, scrabblades, patty's, you know, bacon, something like that. So, she, oh, excuse me. And anyway, we heard a little growling sound, and dad turned down the TV sound, and he said, what's that noise? Is it Sandy?
Starting point is 00:47:37 And I said, no, it doesn't sound like a dog. So, Dad went over there to the sliding glass door, and Mom opened up the curtain, the drapes. And when she pulled the drapes, we all received the shock of our lives. There before is when the dog man in all his glory. He stood between five feet and six feet tall. I'm not kidding. You look just like a werewolf? You thought Beefood's terrified.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Well, Beeput's tame compared to this guy. He was frosting at the mouth and just glaring us with those evil green eyes and it had black, whatever we call them, in the middle. But it didn't look like eyes do on a dog. It looked entirely different. They were dark. But anyway, it was growling and snarling at us. And mom said, I'm going to. I hit him with a broom, and Dad said, no, you're not.
Starting point is 00:48:32 He went into the back bedroom, grabbed his silver coin box, and took it to the window and showed it to him, and that thing let out a streak, I swear, I will never forget this as long as I live. It howled like there was no tomorrow, and it dispersed into the woods, and we never saw it again. I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want anybody to see this. But anyway, just remember next time,
Starting point is 00:48:59 and take a hike in the woods, bring foods for Bayfoot, you don't want a hungry bayfoot after you, and also as a process, take some kind of a silver medal or something that's, it can't be Sterling. Sterling doesn't work on Godman, asking pure, solid, silver like a colling, or something else that's made. Here's the climate of the story caused by the UFO, Bayfoot, and the signing of Dogman. Well, anyway, after that, we slowly have recovered and tried going back to our lives. But this thing or whatever the UFO was, these strange creatures seemed to plague all of our lives while we lived in town, siding in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:49:46 There was a creek with woods behind us that we weren't imagining things, and we would have no reason to tell tell us because it really had. happened because after that, that entity that called himself, Jeffrey, the alien I was telling you about, he followed us all of our lives. And I've seen them when I met him and what happened was a month ago in June, I was allowed a ghost investigation in my apartment here. And they were just, they one didn't know about our spirits as too. they were kind of intriguing. Nobody made fun of us or anything. They wanted to believe it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And so, you don't have to worry, aliens are already here. This one's been observing it has predicted the deaths of four aunts and uncles. They died. My parents both died. My grandparents, all four, died. As a result of this alien appearing to me in predicting that they would die. And then he also possesses a haunted doll here. knows that it's my favorite because, you know, I collect porcelain antique dolls and on their
Starting point is 00:50:58 memorabilia. And anyway, it's attached to a rag doll here that was homemade by somebody at a drift store, and it seems attached to that. And the medium that came to the ghost investigation held the doll and said, it feels sadness would I hold this doll. It feels like death. And I said, well, of course, it has. predicted all those people's deaths in our family and has seen it.
Starting point is 00:51:27 The other doll that was anti-salar doll, it was dressed in a sailor suit from the late 1950s, and it was a toddler-sized doll with blonde hair, and I named them Andy, and when I talked to the voices on the EVP mirror at the ghost, I actually got to use the equipment. It was exciting. I'd love to prove other worlds. But anyway, the voice. coming from the doll and the mirror when the medium asked him who he was. I said, hi, Andy.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Say hi to the knife ladies here. There are three of them. And Andy says on the EVP meter, my name is Andy. My name is not Andy. It's Andrew. And we didn't know anybody by the name of Andrew. The alien was playing tricks on us. It was trying to spend it.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Anyway, sorry. This is Cynthia again. I hope I'm entertaining you with my mysterious stories, but true stories. And we're wrapping this up now. The last time the aliens spoke, he said his name was Jeffrey, so we just kind of left it at them here. What the heck? But anyway, Jeffrey said that his name was Jeffrey,
Starting point is 00:52:41 and he said he warned me, he said that he would be watching me. So I don't know what he meant by that. And he said, if I tried to destroy the dog, he was in happening. His alien spirit or whatever was inside the doll. It said that if I tore it up or disposed him in any way I burned it, I would die in five years. If I gestarded it by any other means that I would die in three years. So currently I have the possessed dollar whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:53:12 But anyway, Jeffrey is here, and he says, tell you hi. And he hopes that he gets his story on one of your part. because people need to know these things too is this. Thank you. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ERP. If one entity is here, and one here, and one here, and one here, you need the Intuit ERP. If scaling your business feels like starting starting over, you need the Intuit ERP. Intuit Enterprise Suite is the AI Native ERP solution that consolidate migrates and automates, all in one place.
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Starting point is 00:55:37 my first encounter with the UFO you heard about my dad's inside
Starting point is 00:55:44 the adventures well this is something that is out of time and space it's
Starting point is 00:55:47 called the night I was nearly adopted by the black eye
Starting point is 00:55:51 children The black-eyed children, let me tell you, are not an innocent and childlike as they seem. The creatures I saw that night will really astound you. It was far more than anything we could ever imagine here on Earth. They're far more superior and more advanced than we are. But anyway, there I was I just had my left knee operating on. I had a bad fault. I had to have surgery, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:56:18 And I was recuperating at home in my bedroom. and I had a new Pat Katz named Patty Kate. She was a tighter striped kitty with an orange spot on her forehead, which made him real cute and unique, and dad called her Patty Cake. Well, anyway, Patty Cake was about a young kitten at the time, and Mom got me a parakeet for companion. I always wanted to teach a parakeet how to talk. Well, anyway, I got my wish.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I got a new parakeet, and his name was Petey, and he was white. and, you know, intelligent. And that night, after watching the news, I decided to read a bed for a couple minutes of magazine. And so, anyway, Peeney was starting to hit up not just by then and really wanted to annoy us, you know, myself and the cat. Sometimes you like to make noises, loud noises to annoy us. sometimes he'd whistle and my brother would come in to the room and he'd say hi to him then he started belching or you know make another weird noises to annoy the burn they'd really go at it but anyway while peony was carrying on suddenly the room got real still and the TV set went off and lights went off and I couldn't get out of bed I was suddenly paralyzed but it wasn't with fear it was like something was trying to tie me down to the vent, like some unseen force.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Well, anyway, at this particular time, you know, the window was still shut, and the air inside was starting to get siphling. And when I looked around the room, strange fog-like substance was in the room, and I thought, oh, no, have the aliens come back to finish the job? But anyway, within a few minutes when my eyes became adjusted to the darkness of the room, Guess what I saw? You guessed the two alien children, the black-eyed children, they heard darts get. Hi, this is Cynthia.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I got another story for you. Have you heard of the airplane pilot that stole the plane from the airport? His name is Rich, and he crashed landed on Ketron Island, K-E-T-R-N. Well, anyway, that's my last name, and I can communicate with the pilot, and he started me off on this quest on YouTube, and that's how I meant you originally. Rich had suggested that I hadn't contact with you. He's sort of like an agent, and he helps me on my endeavors.
Starting point is 00:59:01 But anyway, that's how I meant you was through Rich. Well, anyway, he's sort of like guardian spirit now, and he crash-landed his plane on Catchard Island, and he associates me with him now, because my last name is Ketram. And when he was on my ghost investigation team that day, we were trying to help cross him over. But he was so lively.
Starting point is 00:59:27 He talked for about two hours that night through that machine. And, you know, we also met the alien creature named Jeffrey about my UFO at Spirits I had back in 1980. My dad and I both had two separate occasions. there was a red probe in the backyard that was light-taking pictures, everything. And that's how I met Jeffrey, the alien. And we got him on our ghost investigation meter. And when they asked him what his name was, he says, Jeffrey and the two ladies said, we don't know who he is.
Starting point is 01:00:04 And I said, well, I know who he is. But anyway, after that, you know, we met Rich, and he crushed, that he has played on Ketron Island, and it came to me when I saw the newscasts, you know. And I asked him if he wanted to communicate, and he's been assisted me ever since. So he wants everyone to know that he's sorry for committing suicide. And, you know, it wasn't right, but at the end, he changed his mind, and he didn't want to do it, but he ran out of fuel and he didn't have a choice. So we hope we can help him cross over to the other side.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I was hoping that maybe you can use this story for one of your other shows, paranormal shows. I thought you might be able to use it for one of your other shows. It's a completely different, and he was there at the investigation, and he was one in their number one guest that night. They enjoyed talking to women, so do I. Well, anyway, thank you. If you struggle with suicidal thoughts, please contact the 9-88 suicide and crisis lifeline. You are important, and we need you here. Thank you.
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Starting point is 01:02:11 If you want to join in the fun, you can join over at patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. I'll see you there. And again, thanks for listening. You're her and I can get on here and we can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening. It's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out and now it feels so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks?
Starting point is 01:03:26 I know what I saw. I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know. Please let them know if you ever see one of these things. You need to tell. Because if you don't, then shame on you. You know, shame on you.
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