Bigfoot Society - Hoopa Encounters! (and more!) | California
Episode Date: September 27, 2025What happens when tribal memory meets modern encounters in the misty forests of Northern California? In this powerful episode, we delve into the sacred stories of the Hoopa tribe, featuring firsthand ...accounts from a tribal descendant who shares never-before-heard knowledge about how Bigfoot — known as “the one in charge of the mountains” — once danced in regalia alongside their ancestors.We also hear gripping encounters from a law enforcement officer in Cumberland, Wisconsin haunted by childhood cries of “yummy, yummy,” a hunter’s brush with death in the hills of West Virginia, and chilling sightings from Montana to British Columbia. These are not just stories — they’re living truths passed down through generations and etched into personal memory.If you’ve ever wondered what Bigfoot means to Native communities, what it’s like to stand 30 yards from one, or why entire regions go silent before something steps out of the trees... this episode will stay with you long after it ends.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible.
From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways.
The stories come from everywhere.
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
So settle in because today you'll hear another account
that just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us.
Hey there, how's it going?
Good.
I lived with my grandmother when I was younger in the summertime
in Cumberland, Wisconsin.
And we're Native Americans, we're Ojibways.
And we've always had stories of Bigfoot and stuff like that.
So we were, about eight of my cousins and I, we were playing outside at night.
I was already getting dark.
And we were down probably about a block away from my grandmother's house,
playing around in the woods down by a swamp.
And we started to hear something at the time.
It sounded like it was saying, yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy.
And we all stopped and we started listening and it kept going.
And then we heard another one off to our side, on the other side of us.
And we started crying and we took off running back to my grandmother's house.
And when we all got inside, all of us were crying.
You know, we're like 10 years old.
And she comes, my grandmother comes out of the bedroom and, you know,
ask why is everybody crying?
and we tried to tell her that we heard somebody saying,
yummy, yummy, yummy to us.
And that's what scared us.
And then, you know, she kind of told us to knock it off.
And we didn't hear anything like that.
So probably about 30 years later,
I get into law enforcement and I go back to work in that area.
And another one of our tribal members reported hearing one
and seeing one in her outside of our house.
So naturally we went down and took the complaint.
And probably about another month after that, one of the Bigfoot societies came around and started to investigate that.
Well, I happened to come across them down by a lake.
And I just go down and say, hey, what's going on?
What are you guys doing?
Oh, we're part of the Bigfoot society here.
And we're here to investigate.
Oh, okay, so I kind of forgot about my experience and just kind of started listening to them.
And one guy said, hey, I got what recorded.
Do you want to hear it?
So I humored them.
I said, yeah, I want to hear it.
And the guy brought out his recorder.
And he started to play it.
And right away, it started to say, yummy, yummy, yummy,
me the exact same thing I heard when I was 10 years old.
And right away, it brought tears to my eyes.
And I kind of got choked up and the guy could tell.
And he asked me, hey, what's going on?
And I told him my story.
And he said, wow, that's, I'm honest, honest to say that you probably did hear one that
night.
My goodness, that's incredible.
So how many years between the two events, do you think?
So it had to be, like when I was, I had to be 85-ish when I heard the first heard that.
And then I started working for the police department in 2002, it was probably 2005 when I came, or when we had that.
the tribe member reported.
And then a month after that is when I met with the Bigfoot Society.
That's incredible.
I wonder if I wonder if that was maybe the BFRO that was up there.
Who knows?
There could be some regional ones too.
That's interesting.
Thank you for sharing that story.
I appreciate you coming up.
Is this a conversation I can use on my podcast?
Sure.
I've told it before. I've told it before to other people.
So yeah, it's definitely something I never forget.
Awesome. Well, thank you for coming up. I appreciate it.
Sure. Thank you.
Hey, there. How are you?
Pretty good. How are you doing?
Hey, great. What brings you up today?
Well, you know what? I've come by your show here a couple times and, you know,
I'm kind of particular about who I want to talk to, you know what I mean?
Who I want to give my story to. So I'm kind of particular.
particular about that. And you look pretty good. So I thought, you know what, I'll get on here and
tell you my story if you want to hear it. Absolutely. Go right ahead. So my story begins in around
1984 before I knew anything. I mean, I'd seen Bigfoot books when I was a kid and all that,
but I'm 57 just to give you an idea how old I am. But so in 1984, we're up in West Virginia
and we're in this trailer that we're living in the, and my brother. He and my brother.
and our next door neighbor. And we just hear this lady screaming in the woods. I mean, it's just
rattling the trailer. And we're like, what is going on? So we opened up the door to the trailer. It had a
back door on it. It didn't have any stairs or whatever, but it was right back, backed up against the hill.
And this is important to remember, by the way. So we are backed up against the hill. The setting is on a
side of a mountain. And there's no houses behind us, but there are houses beside us. And this is up in
the Appalachians, so you know. So, yeah, this thing is
screaming and we're thinking it's a woman being killed and it sounded so much like what you would
think that would sound like that's but it was very very very loud and so we shut the door
loaded up all of our guns put one of each of the doors and you know I called up my stepdad
at the time was like hey you know what's going on up here and they're claiming it's a lion it's
this or that or whatever but you know we're still scared and and that's that so after that night
nothing happened. We did walk in the woods the next day to look to see if we could find
something up there. There was nothing. So that was 1984. We didn't know what that was. Who knows?
But later on, I did put two and two together and we figured this out. But so in 1986, this is
a couple of years later. And this is just so you guys have an idea too, this is around the
Morgantown area up in the mountains. But I won't give any specifics.
So we're pulling up this October, cool October evening just before sundown.
I told my stepdad, hey, I'm going to run up on the hill.
We had this hill up there.
It's a flat field on top of this mountain that we lived below.
And there was enough, the sun was up high enough, and it was up high enough that you could still hunt that for a good half hour or so before, you know, or maybe even an hour.
Anyway, I got out of the truck.
I was going to run up the hill.
I didn't have anything with me.
I hadn't.
I wasn't armed or nothing.
But I went walking up the hill and, you know, going up there at a fairly quick pace, I guess you could say.
And I was just trying to get up there so that I could get back to my house if I saw anything.
And so as I walk up this hill, I start to, as I'm getting up the top of the hill.
So as you know, as a hill caps off, right, it starts to get flat on top, right?
So I see this head.
this huge hairy head.
And since I'm looking uphill, I'm looking at, you know, the head of this thing.
And so I walk up a few more feet so that I can see more of it because I'm curious at this point what this is.
And then it just stops me in my tracks.
I could see the shoulders.
I could see the, I could see the hair, glint.
in the sun, you know, plain as day. I didn't see any years on it. People have asked me that
before I didn't see any years. It had real, I mean, manicured hair as opposed to some of the other
bigfoot things you see where they're all hairy and dirty and all that. This thing was groomed,
and it was like an athlete. It was built kind of like that from what I could see. Now, at this point,
Now, this is all going down real quick.
I had a fear come over me that I have never experienced in my life since then.
It was a fear that I couldn't even explain.
And so I was remember looking at it thinking, do not turn around.
This is what I was thinking to myself when I'm staying in there in dire straits, if you will.
with fear. I'm thinking, do not turn around and look at me because I will have a heart attack
right here on the ground, right here on the spot. And I was 16 years old by the way at this time.
And I'm thinking, I'm going to be just have a heart attack with this thing turned around. And luckily
it kept walking away. And when I realized it took another step going the other direction,
that's when I turned around and hauled butt down the hill. As fast as I could go,
ran down the hill. And that was my first experience ever seeing.
a Sasquatch. And so I know they're real. That's for sure. Yeah, there's no doubt about that.
Now, I'll wind up here a little bit on it. So I contacted a couple of people that lived on that
hill years later. And one of the girls that lived up there on that hill told me a story where
she said that she was right behind my house on that hill picking blackberries. And she said,
my mother had walked off to go take a piss.
And she goes, I turned, I was picking blackberries and then I just looked up.
Here's a Sasquatch looking right at me, she said, and it had to have been the same one that
that I'm assuming that I saw on that hill.
And this was around 1986, so the same time frame.
And she said, tears just started pouring down my face because I was so scared.
And she said, I turned around to look where my mother was at because, you know, you know,
She was so frightened.
And she said I turned back around and it was gone.
That is really weird, right?
It is gone.
That is some wild stuff.
So regarding the first sighting that you had, how far away was that from you again?
It was probably about 30 yards.
It wasn't very far off.
Yeah, that's just over tennis court away.
that's not bad.
Yeah, it was about like that, about a tennis court, yeah.
Yeah, it wasn't very far at all.
And like I said, the sun was shining on that hill.
And the, I guess the clarity that I had of the sun glinting off the fur or the hair,
it was like hair.
It wasn't fur.
It looked like hair.
I'll agree with a lot of other people when they say that.
But yeah, but this one was groomed.
And it just, it just, it didn't look like some of the other big,
that I see on TV. So that's when, you know, when you look around and you're looking at all
these videos, you're like, man, that's not exactly what I saw, but that looks pretty authentic,
you know? Right. Right. So, you know, there's something going on there. I don't know exactly
what's going on with that. But hey, I got some more story for you here. Now, not that I'm,
not that I'm a Sasquatch magnet, because I'm not, but if you're in the right place,
at the right time, unfortunately, some stuff is probably going to happen. So wind this up to
2008, and I'm living in Texas. This is I grew up here as well.
And I'm out in East Texas and I'm hog hunting in the dark.
So I've got all camo on and all that.
Now, I didn't have all the cameo on because I was trying to hide my body in the dark.
But all those insects out there in the dark as a summer,
it just eats you alive.
So, yeah, so I'm really covered up for that.
And I have a starlight scope with me on a 17HMR.
Now, if you know what a 17HMR is, that's really not a very powerful round for, you know,
big game or anything like that. It's for all a small game. Now, I had been shooting
hogs with it and just having fun. So I did have a 308 with me as well, but it only had a
regular scope on it. And I had a pig light out there about 70 yards away where I could see in
the dark with the 308. So I could actually shoot a 308 in the dark with a regular scope.
But 17 HMR, the other hand, with a starlight scope on it, you know, Raccoonville, right?
I mean, this is not a very big ground. But anyway, I'm in this tree and it's real quiet.
man, it just got real quiet. The same thing you hear from other stories about hunters out there.
I mean, everything shut up. The crickets shut up, the mouses quit moving. All the racket noise
that I had been around me earlier that night had just shut up. Everything. And I was like,
well, that's kind of weird. And then I hear this tree explode. I mean, just like a wooden tree,
like a tree that I don't the tree that I could picture in my head was like an old tree just being bent over and then just exploding.
And you would have thought I would have been scared, but I wasn't.
I was like, what?
I actually remember thinking to myself, well, I guess trees do make noise when no one's around.
Of course, I'm there, but you know what I mean?
You get the point, right?
Absolutely.
So I'm still up in the tree and I'm looking around trying to figure out why that tree just exploded when everything was completely.
completely silent and quiet.
And it wasn't very far from me.
It was probably 50 yards for me.
So I just sit there in the tree.
You know, what else?
I'm there to hunt hogs.
You know, that's what I'm doing.
That's what I'm thinking is running around out there.
I don't know what just happened to that tree.
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And behind me, I hear something. And I'm in a, by the way, I'm in a tree stand.
to say you know, I'm in a tree stand about 12 feet out the ground.
And it's a two-man tree stand.
So I got a little bit of leeway to walk around on this platform.
So I hear something behind me.
And I'm thinking, oh, man, hog's going to walk in on me.
That's cool.
I'll just kill him right here.
You're right in front of me.
And so I'm waiting and waiting and waiting.
And it never comes out.
And I'm thinking, what?
Why did it not walk?
That's really weird.
I did throw some corn and stuff out there in front of my tree stand just for giggles.
just in case some hog did come through there, it would stop maybe,
and I would get a chance to pop it, you know?
Anyway, so I decided to stand up in my tree stand,
and I turned around and I turned that starlight scope on,
and I looked down straight beside me on the ground,
and I see this human-like body laid out completely flat on the ground,
but its hands were, like, tucked underneath it,
and its feet were straight up and down.
It was, and you would have thought I was freaking,
I would have freaked out seeing this, but I didn't.
I didn't know what it was. Now, when you have a starlight scope, a lot of guys on them these days, so they know what they look like.
It's a green, black, and yellow kind of, maybe some white sometimes.
But this whole, this thing that I was looking at was not very big.
It was only about six and a half, maybe seven feet tall.
It wasn't very big, but it was real round.
It had a real round gut on it.
And now, at this point when I'm looking at this, I am one.
I am wondering what it is, and I'm not just going to shoot something that I don't know what it is, right?
So I just, I remember I sat back down in my seat, and I'm thinking, what was that?
And I'm thinking, well, let me take another look.
So I stand back up.
I got my scopes already on.
I looked back at there again, and it had moved all the way up against the tree, and it had its head, if you could picture this,
it had its neck
butted up against the bottom of the tree
and it had reached up
and it was holding on to this branch
and the branch
come all the way up to where I was
it was a real small little branch
it was only
it wasn't even a half inch thick but it was real long
and it came up that 12 feet where I was at
and it started waving
that branch
with his hand
and mind you there's no noise
there's no wind
no nothing
but that branch is waving now in front of my face.
And now you would have thought I would have just been shooting like a wild man or whatever.
But I didn't.
At this point, I'm thinking, what is that?
But that was about the same time I was supposed to stand back up and look back down there,
which I did do.
And that's how I could see it, what it was doing.
And once again, you would have thought I'd have freaked out when been shooting, but I didn't.
I still didn't know what it was.
I still didn't know if it was a man that was effing with me or something else.
And I didn't think it was a man.
I'm out here on a private land.
You know, so I just sit back down in the seat and it backs back out.
I hear it back back out and it walks off.
And that was my East Texas.
I'm going to call it a Sasquatch and I don't know what else to call it.
But, yeah, that happened out here.
Yeah, what else would you call that?
Surprisingly, yeah, I had heard some noises out there.
I'm not, I was at the time, I wasn't familiar with.
Sasquatch calls, you know, like the whoops and stuff.
But I had heard some of those noises out there.
I had taken a, just for giggles, I had taken a, one of those old satellite dishes that you get like for like dish TV.
And I put a recorder on the end of it at the end where normally a signal would be coming through.
And I knew that sound would bounce off of that and hit that, hit that thing.
And dude, I picked up, I picked up all kinds of crazy sounds out there in those woods.
That works really good.
So, yeah, if we got, you know, good fans on here, you guys want to do something on the cheap, but works.
Use one of those little satellite dishes, put a recorder on the end of that thing, and you'll be surprised what you'll catch.
Absolutely.
That's a good idea.
It's making your own parabolic pretty much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
On the cheat, man.
Yeah.
But that was my East Texas story.
You know, I'm not out there currently seeking out, Sasquatch or anything like that, but I do keep up online.
pay attention what's going on, or at least I try to.
Well, man, you've had some really cool encounters over there.
I appreciate you coming up and sharing those.
Is this a conversation I can use on the Bigfoot podcast I have?
Yeah, you bet.
All right.
Well, thanks for coming up, man.
Yeah, no problem.
Thanks for inviting me on.
Hello, G.
How are you?
Oh, I'm good.
How are you doing tonight?
You doing great.
What brings you up today?
Well, I had some questions first and then my story, if that's all right with you.
Okay.
So where is the majority of in the United States the most sightings at?
Well, um.
Or encounters.
Let's see.
I would say, uh, you have a, I mean, there's a few, few things.
Let me bring my map up here.
Um, you're going to have, of course, a better chance.
if you're, do you know where like the cascades are that go up from on the Pacific Northwest over there?
Yes.
That's where a ton of reports I get are following that cascade range, right?
There's a ton of reports in Ohio, in Pennsylvania, believe it or not.
East Texas is a pretty big hot spot, northern Georgia, eastern Tennessee, southern Missouri.
I mean, it's almost like asking.
where we're not to go.
The Midwest
and Nebraska
the like central Midwest
can get pretty sparse, but
your Pacific Northwest, like if you had one shot
to try to go to a place,
I would say
Clackamas County, Oregon
or Pierce County, Washington.
Okay.
Yeah, look that up.
So my tail goes all the way back to 92
when I was 16.
and our neighbors were really good friends.
Like I grew up with my friend and his parents were real close with my parents and stuff.
And they decided to move to Montana and they bought this big plot of land.
And my friend's dad was kind of like an off-the-gritter type guy.
And that was the plan for them.
So the first summer, or not, I'm sorry, not summer.
It was the first hunting season that they had while they were there.
They invited us to come stay with them.
So my parents and I, we packed up from Texas and we went up there and we had planned to spend two weeks up there.
And so we, all the boys, all the men go off hunting this one day.
So we're in this big area that's pretty brushy and tree covered stuff.
I'd never seen being here in Texas.
And there's this trail that the dad described as having a lot of deer come through.
So we're there setting up these makeshift lines, and it's about maybe 100 yards away from the football,
or our football field away from where the trail is.
And we hadn't seen anything.
Like all evening, it was starting to get kind of late.
and then finally at the very end,
when it was just going to become nightfall,
we had to stop.
This thing comes lumbering through
that we can see from where our blind is at.
And we got scared because we thought it was a bear.
And right before it gets into the brush,
because it was quadruped, it turned into biped.
It stood up and literally,
just looked at us and moved off into the brush and the trees and stuff. And we were scared.
We didn't know what to do. And my dad was like we should investigate it. We were 16 and 15.
We didn't want it to go. But right before we took a few steps forward, you just heard these
too loud knocks, like what everyone describes is like trees getting hit. And then every animal
in the forest, you could say he just ran out of nowhere.
And that was it.
And we went the following morning, and we found the tracks of this, I'm assuming Sasquatch, I want to say it.
And they were there.
They were as real as day, but where we were at, it was very rural.
So he had to wait because he wanted to make a cast.
and by the time we got back with supplies like the next day and stuff
there in that I guess that part of Montana it was real rainy
so there wasn't anything left for us to do with it but
that was yeah that was my introduction to Sasquatch at 16
that's wild what part of Montana was that in Helena I believe that's
oh sure yeah let me
me look up. I'm just curious.
Okay. Well, yeah, that
is, let's see.
And I
had never spoken to anyone about this, but
when I found your TikTok,
I was like, you know, maybe I should
tell this story.
Wow, I appreciate you coming up. That's
a huge deal to
share something like that for the first
time. Thank you. Oh, you're
welcome. I appreciate your time.
And I'm really interested in everyone
that comes on in their encounters
as well, see if there's anything similar to, like, what occurred with me.
Absolutely.
Is this a conversation I can use on, I have a Bigfoot podcast?
Oh, yeah, you can use it for sure.
Okay.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Well, yeah, definitely feel free to hang out, and you should start learning a lot of stuff
from other people's encounters.
But, yeah, thank you for being here, man.
All righty.
Thank you.
Have a great night.
You too.
Ronnie, Alecere again.
Ronnie, how are you?
Oh, pretty good. I'm from Burns Lake, BC, here.
I've been trying to get all of you last week here.
I have three sightings that I want to talk about.
One was way up at the Haleen Lake about 15 years ago.
When my dad took him up there, he was talking about old stuff and sat.
We're coming back down and then all of a sudden right in about 40 feet from us.
He just about got on the road.
You can see his brown hair just he turned, swung around, walked back in the bush.
And from there, we couldn't believe it at first.
But that's not the first time.
The second time when I was about 10 years ago coming back from Babine Lake at Donis Landing.
About 11 miles from Burns Lake here, you go up to Babine Road.
And right there, that was in May.
It was about 7 o'clock, 7.30, sunset.
And I was coming around the corner.
And right there, I couldn't believe, I just turned right there and right in front probably about a good 40 feet, 50.
And I stopped right there.
And then this thing had a long air, probably about 10 feet.
And that was 10 years ago.
And he just went right across and it just gave me the chills.
And I can't believe.
Nobody won't, something like that.
Nobody won't believe you.
So all that time.
And then at same place.
And I tell you, he went across.
And I stopped where he went across still.
I got the goosebumps from that thing.
And he just went across like in probably about eight, ten steps.
And he was gone.
and how fast you went.
And then that same place about five years ago,
coming down, not coming down, but me, my friend,
making woods there.
And both of us who had chainsaw going and cutting woods.
And all of a sudden we dropped two trees down
and we're cutting away in that same area.
And right behind us.
And man, you can hear that.
And all of a sudden, I told my, I stopped my son and I told my friend to stop his.
And I tell you, their echo.
I can hear his dad.
I can hear the dad.
I can hear the mom.
And we can hear the little one.
They're all just warning us.
Like, they gave us the goosebumps.
You can hear their echoes.
from quite a ways, quite a ways.
And then I told my buddy, I said,
this is the same area where I say that.
Let's get out of here and load those firewoods up.
We never ever move quick in our life that time.
He gave us a goose bump and that's a second time.
And then last three weeks ago,
another incident happened was my,
My niece's husband, they were supposed to meet them down in Miranda Landing in Grand Isle, past Grand Isle at the Old Fork there.
They were supposed to meet his father, and that was three weeks ago.
Instead of, they were heading the right direction, but there was a turnoff up to the left.
We go to Grand Isle, B.C. and then up towards Fortyenne.
Babin. And once there, they got on the road and they were heading down to Smothers Landing instead.
And then right there, about a mile, I guess, down that Smetters Landing, they heard some big steps,
footsteps. So they stopped and they looked over to their left. And right there, he was
looking at them. They got the goosebumps. They're never, ever going to look like they, you know,
until this day, nobody won't believe what's happening around our area here in Burns Lake
and Babine Lake. So there's lots of sightings. And they found the fish and wildlife when they seen
that big foot. And they have the fish and wildlife, they said that you're not the only ones.
There's three people left, total of you, seen that Bigfoot around in Smanders Landing area.
Really?
Yeah, there's quite a few around here that, you know, there's a lot of logins and a lot of things that's happening around here.
Lots of things.
And especially in Babine Lake, my friend also, they were out there.
fishing around and then that was about eight years ago and his cousin was taking a video
on his phone he's so just beautiful and calm and then all of a sudden he turned around his
back and taking a video Richard look what's that coming waves coming towards them and
And then within three seconds, he went underneath the aluminum boat.
And I tell you, he just about fell off the boat, both of them.
And then right there, he video on the whole thing, the phone fell off his hands and into the boat.
And then they turned around.
That motor just ripped that thing right out his back behind.
And they were looking at the big huge tail was going back down.
As probably they said, at least about somewhere around 10 feet.
And it just ripped the motor out so they had to paddle to Bear Island, that same Babine
Lake area and they phone the Fish and Wildlife and RCMP.
They came out to pick them up and they told them the whole story and they showed the footage
to the phone.
But there's lots of things happening around here in Burns Lake and Babine Lake area.
So there's lots of signs.
That last one, you're saying that was a big foot in the water?
No, no, this was whatever it was at In Babine Lake.
They'll talk to you about it.
Their tail is so wide, probably about something like 10 feet wide.
It went underneath their boat and ripped the motor off the aluminum boat.
And it just went flying up and into a...
The lake, they don't know what it was.
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Okay, so you might have some sort of lake monster in that lake then.
Yeah, and then three years ago, we had a derby going down here in Downs Landing,
Babin Lake, me and wife went across.
had a 10-pound line on that.
And my wife started screaming.
And all of a sudden look back on the sea,
the rod was just really bending down.
So I stopped the motor and I grabbed the fishing rod from her.
And I tell you, I cannot reel that thing in.
It's just like 20-pound line and it's just like going out with it.
Within seven minutes,
half of the line and then just broke right off.
There's lots of things happening around Babine Lake and BC here.
So lots of sightings.
So if people want to know about where they can find Bigfoot or whatever it is in the lake too.
So there's something going on.
Very good.
Well, I appreciate you coming up.
and sharing your accounts these are incredible and we've never heard from
this area of British Columbia before yeah yeah you guys are you know you want
send some people up here to do some some video and do whatever that there you
guarantee you guys will find something especially up in Talban Lake when you
can't even see the bottom when you go
out camping. When we went up shopping, we went up flying with a helicopter, and we can even see
the bottom in Talban Lake. And also, our elders, they used to set a net up there. And, you know,
one day, the next day, they were trying to take the net out in so long that whatever it is,
it just wrapped right around it, and they just let go.
And like the elders, they say that underneath the lake between Taliban,
Auger Lake, Babin Lake, and goes out to the ocean, it's all connected.
That's what they were saying.
And we believe that, because underneath that, there's whatever that's out there,
We have so much of people who are going to talk about it, but nobody can believe our story.
That's what's happening around in our area here.
Ronnie, I appreciate you coming up.
Do you mind if I use this conversation in Bigfoot podcast that I have?
Sure.
You can ask these boys, too, about three weeks ago when they seen this Bigfoot.
There's a lot of people.
You can ask the fish and wildlife here in Smothers that they reported the sightings where they've seen this big foot.
So there's more than three people.
So hold on.
You're saying if I look up Smithers, Fish and Wildlife in British Columbia?
Yeah.
Is that called?
I'm trying to look for it.
Oh, it's the town of Smithers?
Smothers species.
It's Buckley Valley.
and Smetters Landing and Fort Babine are connected in that area.
You can talk to these people too if you want to, we can arrange that and, you know,
they'll all come out and talk about it because there's a lot of story about whatever
that people out there are talking about. It's real. There's definitely no doubt about it.
the big foot, different kind of animals out there that they're talking about, it's true.
So I believe it myself because I experienced it, I seen it and how they move.
And I tell you, this is what you have to believe that people are seeing so many of them out there,
different kinds of colors and this one.
with dark, black, long hair.
And we have tracks sometimes.
Wherever we go hunt out there, and in October we see tracks.
So there's lots of sightings, no doubt about it.
So be nice if you guys can talk to us.
And we'll tell you the full true story.
That's what people are saying out there.
For you, thank you.
Thank you, Ronnie.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Ronnie, Alec, so from Berzac, PC, Nick Babi, Waioni.
Very good.
Hey, we'll chat later.
Thank you so much for coming up.
Thank you.
Thank you for listening.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Oh my goodness, that's a conversation.
That's why I do this live.
If you're able to come up,
Um, Jill, I'd love to talk to you.
I hear that you are related to the Hoopa tribe.
Hi there, how are you?
Hi. Sorry, I just was having some technical difficulties with my thumbs.
Oh, no problem.
I can jump on.
Yeah, they, um, those people used to participate in our
summer, many, many, many years ago before my grandfather was born.
He was born in 1909, or 1906, and he's long since gone, but he talked about the stories that he was told as a child, that, you know, those people used to participate in our ceremonies.
And the way, if anyone's been to Hoopa, the way our ceremonies work is, you know, Hoopa is located in Northern California.
So we're at the bottom of kind of like the Pacific Northwest.
And our ceremonies are shared by the three tribes,
Hoopa, Uruk, and Karak, and they are,
when our ceremonies happen, usually, especially our healing ceremonies,
the Hoopa dance, then the Urock dance, and then the Karak dance.
So they each take a turn and at one point these people also used to participate and take a turn and they also had regalia that they would bring.
But there was a disagreement at some point and they took their stuff and said that they wouldn't be back with us because of this disagreement.
And I will say his name, Menninghot then, which means kind of.
loosely translated means he's the one in charge of the lids or the mountains.
Oh my goodness, I love that. That's incredible. That is so cool.
He's not seen necessarily as a bad person. And of course, you know, family and friends have seen him. I've never been so fortunate as to see him. I would love to.
But you know, the Tully River tribe, which is more in kind of central, you know,
probably about seven, eight hours away south of Hupa.
It's they have, they actually have pictoclifts with a good, a good big foot and a bad
big foot.
So the red eyes, and when I say bad, they're the unkind ones.
They have red eyes and then the others have yellow.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Okay, so that's interesting because I've, so I've taken a lot of encounters.
And those are things that come up.
It's either red or yellow eyes.
So you're saying there's a distinction between if they're good or bad going off of what type of eyes they have.
Yes, that's what I've been told.
That's not our story.
That's not our Hoopa stories.
That's the Tully River.
That's their stories.
that's their stories, which is kind of interesting, right?
It's very interesting.
I've talked to, who did I talk to?
I talked to Bear from who is, I'm trying to remember the current,
it's not medicine man anymore.
It's like a spiritual leader.
Apologies, I'm saying it wrong.
But he was involved with the Tully River tribe,
and he had some really interesting things going on down there.
So when you say that they used to be there with regalia, can you explain what that means?
So for us, well, so you see my picture there and we have a lot of, we use a lot of abalone shells,
dintillium shells, which are like the mollusks, right, that grow along the Pacific Northwest.
and I'm assuming pine nuts, like pine nuts are kind of a big thing these days, but a long time ago was like a poor man's bead.
So I would think, and we also used a lot of palliated woodpeckerheads at scalps in a lot of our regalia, along with our otter and mink hides.
So I would assume that when they said that they also owned redoubtia,
regalia, it was probably very similar to ours.
So they had pelt beaver, not beaver, well, maybe beaver felts, but pelts from mink and otters and probably had things with, decorated with abalone and other types of shells.
And, you know, I'm just making an extrapolation here.
Yeah, absolutely.
I have no idea what kind of regalia he had.
but if it was the same thing.
And that's kind of like certain people hold regalia.
So like our white deer skins, you know, our albino deer skins,
they're used, we're actually in the middle of our world renown ceremonies right now.
We just finished our white deer skin dance and are going to be getting ready to do the jump dance.
Is it okay if I ask you a few questions?
Sure.
Okay.
I've followed you for years, so I'm really excited about this.
So I've interviewed a few different First Nations people,
and they all have stories about how sometimes they will show up on the edge of ceremonies.
sometimes when there's drums involved.
Have you ever heard that as well?
Like they will show up on the edges of the ceremonies?
No, but some of our sacred areas,
they're off limits after the ceremonies.
They're off limits usually because our belief
is that the little people and the others come
and do their ceremonies right after us.
So nobody goes into those places
following ceremony because they're left for the others to do theirs.
So that's extremely interesting.
I've also talked to an individual of the Europe tribe as well within the last year.
And a lot of people will allude to that in, so let's say not exactly the Hoopa area,
but usually we're talking about like Bluff Creek and the Patterson Gimlin film site.
And they usually will allude to there's,
Trinity Alps.
Yeah, exactly.
There's areas there where just people do not go and they're somehow related to, you're
saying like to other people.
That's just the term I'm using to try to make it more simplified.
Yes, there's a place called the Go Road, which was a road that was, you've heard of it, right?
that's actually in a very sacred area that was used by all of the surrounding tribes.
And in that particular area, it is.
And, you know, what's interesting is, you know, I had family who worked for U.S.
U.S. Forest Service out that way, who it was kind of a joke, I guess, to have them go out
and mark timber in that area.
But it can be a very eerie area.
and we have rhododendrum bushes, which people usually get from a nursery and plant, but they're wild.
They're a wild plant that grows all over the place in this particular area.
And I've never been there.
I mean, I've been there, but I've never gotten out of my car and walked around in the woods,
but I'm told that you can clearly see that, you know, they actually like to kind of pile those bushes up and laying them.
Like it looks like something lays in there.
And the other thing is like an odor.
Like, you know, sometimes there's a very strong odor and it's really not a pleasant smell at all that you can say, oh, he's around.
That's interesting as well.
So you know exactly what I'm talking about then.
There's a lot of stuff I've actually cut out of interviews because I do, I take this extremely seriously.
And, yeah, there's that area around the Go Road, I think, is, I've never been there,
but I feel like it's to be taken extremely seriously.
So that's cool to hear that from your side as well.
I hear from a lot of people, they will say something to the effect of, you know,
I saw it disappear or I saw it fade away, or there's even accounts where it, like, comes
through an area, is there anything that you've ever heard of that would, that would kind of lend
credence to that where it's able to disappear or maybe travel to other places, other dimensions,
anything like that?
I haven't heard, I haven't heard that.
I guess just on a personal basis, I've always suspected that they were.
interdimensional beings because if they're so if they were coming and participating in our
ceremonies and when i say you know each tribe will take a turn at it doing a ceremony that's
usually like 40 people so you know i would be i would i would think that when they said that
they participated in our ceremonies that meant there were at least 40 of them
or more who would come, right? Of all ages, all age range. So the flip side of that is,
and Hupa's, our sire pits in our traditional houses have been dated back to 10 to 12,000 years.
So we've been in the same place for that long. So where did they live, right? Because there's
no race of them living in a
things but but when we're talking about having regalia that all requires a certain process of
you know hand manipulation tool development um but i haven't heard uh you know there's not a place that
they live and it was interesting because i was listening to another bigfoot cat podcast
and that they had a medium on there who said she you know she couldn't you know
she's made contact with them telepathically, right?
And one of the questions she asked them was,
what do you miss most or what do you,
what have you seen change or something about like,
how is the world changed?
And one of the things that supposedly the Bigfoot
had told her telepathically was that she missed,
he missed interacting with the tribes with the native people.
Oh, wow.
I thought that was very interesting.
Do you feel, would you feel comfortable sharing how the Sasquatch is viewed in Hupa tradition?
Well, this is like, I'm 60 years old.
So I'm, you know, I'm, my grandparents were all, you know, had served in World War I, which is, you know, the age ranges between their kids.
My mom was the youngest of the family.
So oftentimes in terms of Bigfoot, this is one of those things where it might be information held family to family.
So not necessarily everybody would have the same story or have different stories.
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And, you know, I don't think.
you know, we've never, we don't really have stories of them being super destructive when,
except during the 1940s and 50s when you had active logging engaged and they didn't,
like people didn't even really talk about it, but the, you know, they would leave their, the logging
equipment and the oil and drums and stuff up on the landing and they would come back after the weekend and
find them all picked up and thrown over the bank and lots of big footprints thrown and things
like that but nobody had any you know the the response to that i guess would be like well he doesn't
really want us to be here doing what we're doing but nobody was ever like like hurt and even my friend
who said that the one he saw looked like an orangutan that um he lived him and his family live kind of at the
edge. They're the last house as you head out towards kind of the mountain area, towards the place
called Hors Lento, which is where settings have been occurred. Anyway, he said his dogs were barking,
and they had a little Pomeranian that was just, you know, barking so hard that it wouldn't
take a breath. So they thought it was bears, because it was not unusual to have a bear
sniffing around up the smokehouse or whatever.
So he went out there with his gun.
He wasn't going to kill the bear.
He was just going to shoot near it and scare it off.
So he went up there with his gun.
And the little Pomeran dog was barking at the bottom of this tree.
And the big dogs were all sitting on the porch not saying anything.
they were probably sitting back waiting it to become a snap.
And he said on the tree, he looked up to where it was looking, there was this, he said,
it was the color of an orangutanine.
And he goes, and I was trying to, he goes, it was sitting on this branch, kind of squatting on this branch.
And when, you know, we have some pretty big trees.
So when I say branch, the branch itself.
could have been the size of a tree, right?
So it's not like a small branch.
This thing was kind of squatting on the branch,
and then it stood up, and he goes,
and I was trying to get my gun to go in.
And I ran in the house, I thought somebody else has to see this besides me.
He was, he kind of backed up, but as he was backing up,
he said the thing jumped down.
He said it was probably about a 9 to 12 foot drop.
jumped down on the ground and then ran down the embankment and he said it was you know very hairy
the hair on its arms was long and drapey but it was orange color and he he said all i could get out
was orangutan he was he went into where his wife was and was like orangutan he was because my mind
was not even wanting to work wow and that was that was on the reservation yeah um okay
But, you know, that's the only one that I've actually heard was like there.
And he said it was just so, I think his story actually ended up on the Bigfoot, you know, with Bobo or Bilbo.
Ended up on that.
Okay.
That's right.
On one of those shows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, but, you know, I knew him.
I knew him.
He's gone now, but I knew him really well.
And, you know, like, people.
say these things they aren't people who make them they just they aren't exactly you know um so and
you know when you when you are raised in the mountains hunting fishing gathering like you know i used to go
trout fishing and we were always walking around and one of the things that i was taught about my
grandfather was that you always sing you know our traditional songs or you know make noise because
you have to be talking so that the animals know where you're
where you are and that you don't run into a bear or you know whether it's picking hookabberries or
or mushrooms or whatever you're gathering that you are making noise to make certain that the wilderness
knows that you're there and we've had you know hunters who have seen it who have heard it
and are like this is the whooping um you know like my son heard the whooping one night and he
said it was it was big they didn't wait for it
it was crashing through the woods and it was making those whooping sounds and he called me in the
middle of the night. It was like 2 o'clock in the morning or I don't know, one o'clock in the morning.
I was already in bed, but I go to bed at 9 so I have no concept.
You know, so he said that he goes, I will find the sound because he was trying to imitate
and he's like, I can't do it. And so then he found the sound and it came off of a
the sound of a recording that happened in Washington State somewhere.
And he said, this is the sound that was making.
And, you know, our men in our area know the sound of every bird.
Like, you know what a blue jay sounds like.
You know what a grouse sounds like.
You know what a quail sounds like.
You know, you know what a woodpecker.
So like, you know all the sounds around you and what the animals make.
And so when you have someone who has those kind of experiences who doesn't know the sound,
you know, these are people who will walk miles by themselves.
You know, go hunting, you know, out where they have to hike in for five hours and are
completely by themselves and are fine being in the wilderness alone.
These aren't people who scare at the slightest thing.
How are, and you may not, I'm just going to ask it.
So let's say you have the current generation of the Hoopa tribe being brought up right now.
Are they taught to react to an interaction with a Sasquatch in a certain way?
No.
Okay.
No, I mean, I think most of them would just leave the area.
Like if they saw something, they would just leave and they might tell us
friends, they might not tell everyone.
I mean, I don't think we've had anyone with an iPhone be out there being recording.
I mean, one of the things is, you know, when you're in the mountain, your iPhone's
pretty much useless because there's no service.
So unless you're just going to take pictures, most of the time, it's not with you.
But I haven't heard of anyone recently having those kinds of
of experiences. These are all almost approaching 20 years now.
Doesn't mean that they're not there. Doesn't mean that they're not there. It's just that's,
you know, I think there's a certain amount of healthy respect for like if you feel like
you're being watched, you probably are, so you leave.
Yeah, that makes sense.
In, have you ever heard anything where there was any, there is a, has there ever been like a form of
of communication between tribal members and Sasquatch, whether that's verbally or using,
you know, telepathic or anything I thought?
I know, you know, when I was asking, like, when my grandpa was telling us this about
that they used to, you know, he was always told that they used to come and participate in our
ceremonies. It didn't, we didn't think to ask, like, was it talking?
like what language, I mean, because he's talking about a time,
what, you know, a time where Hupa people would only be speaking,
whoopah, you know, or our language.
And that's kind of the other interesting thing about, um, our tribes is that you have
Hupa that's Athabascan, you have Uruk, who's Algonquin.
When I'm saying Athabascan and Algonquin, I mean language bases.
And then you have, uh, the,
Karak who are Hokkaan. So we participated in each other's ceremonies, we intermarried,
but we all spoke languages that were as foreign to each other as Chinese and French.
So and there was no known sign language system. So we have to make the broad assumption
that because we did intermarry that we were actually trilingual, which saved us,
us saved us in the sense that the Hupa people were able to retain much of their Aboriginal
territory, not all of it, but much of it as a result of being able to pick up English so fast
and understanding what the soldiers were saying.
Right.
So I would say if in fact the big fits do speak a language that a long time ago our ancestors
probably spoke it with them or
they had some other form of communication.
Makes sense.
Are there any things you've ever heard of like,
well, there's some Sasquatch in this area that have four toes,
as opposed to five, and you've really got to watch out for the four toes.
Is that something that's present in the Hupa culture?
I personally have not heard that.
That's not to say that they, you know,
there aren't your stories like that.
Yeah.
but I haven't heard that.
That might just be a Prince of Wales clinket thing that I've heard.
So, okay, that's cool.
And it might be the same being.
I don't know how long these things live.
True, true, true, true.
Man, wow, this is a really cool conversation.
I love these because it is so extremely rare to be able to talk to someone like yourself
who knows the ins and outs of other.
the culture so I appreciate you coming up and and chatting for a little bit yeah well I heard my
friend there from obviously the Pacific Northwest and I was like yeah I was really pleased I got to
go to Alaska and I get to eat some what they call black gold which is the golden bearded seal
blubber that was absolutely delicious that is awesome delicious yeah um good stuff is this a conversation I
can use for the podcast.
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, cool.
Also, would you be able, would you mind sending me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com?
It would be cool if just if I have another question in the future, if you wouldn't mind.
Sure.
I'd be happy.
Okay.
Awesome.
Well, thank you for coming up and chatting.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah.
Thank you for having me on.
I appreciate it.
Good stuff.
Oh my goodness.
That is incredible.
incredible. That was an incredible conversation.
Hello. Hey, what's up?
Hey, I was on earlier and I called my buddy to let him know that I shared this story with you.
Okay. He reminded me about something I had long forgotten since this happened in the early 90s.
But at the end of my story, I told you how my friend's dad wanted to get some stuff to cast the footprint.
we found but he couldn't because it had rained.
When he was getting that stuff at that store,
the people there recommended that he talked to the local wildlife,
the fishing game.
And so in doing so, he started off with his story.
I know you're going to find it's crazy.
And the wildlife fishing game guy was like,
let me guess you saw something.
walking through your property and he was like, yeah.
And he was like, yeah, we get a lot of that here in Helena.
No way.
Yeah.
So it was kind of cool but spooky.
Yeah.
But it was just an overall, I mean, once in a lifetime experience type thing, you know?
That's incredible.
That's very cool.
Thank you for coming back up to share that.
Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't remember earlier, but I mean, it's been 30-some ideas, you know.
Oh, totally understandable.
You know, that brings up a great, I've never tried to contact fishing game departments.
And I think I might put that on the list because sometimes I will randomly call places and ask.
And sometimes have some people, I mean, I've talked to as sheriff deputies.
in Tennessee and Dave
shared their sightings over the
phone. It's crazy. So you never know.
Yeah. He was
doing it and the people
that, you know, at first thought he was going to
start talking about a grizzly bear, I guess
because grizzly is prevalent there in
Montana. But
no, it was
the conversation
turned real quick when he was like, let me guess
you saw something stand up or walk or
whatever it was. However,
the conversation went but he was like not surprised at all absolutely well yeah thank you so much for
coming up and for sharing that i appreciate it thank you thank you for listening to this episode of the
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