Bigfoot Society - Horrifying Bigfoot Tales of Oakridge, Oregon! (Archive Episode)

Episode Date: April 28, 2024

MY FAVORITE EPISODE FROM THE ARCHIVES! Do NOT miss this one!Our special guest, Ronald “Ronnie” Roseman, shares his fascinating experiences and encounters with these elusive creatures in a remote small town Oregon. From hair-raising vocalizations to intricate interactions, Ronnie's firsthand accounts will leave you questioning what truly exists in the hidden corners of our wilderness.See you at Sasquatch Summer Fest in Oakridge, Oregon this July 2024! Use code "BIGFOOT SOCIETY" to get 50 percent off your tickets! https://www.sasquatchsummerfest.com🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon AND HEAR EXTRA MEMBER'S ONLY EPISODES!! - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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And they knew we were there. You could tell they were right there, screaming and hollering. And they weren't coming out in the open. They were right there and screaming and hollering. And Delaine asked his daughter. He said, do you want to leave? Because she was pacing back and forth. She said, yeah.

And they got in the car and left. He asked me, so you come in it. I don't know why, but I said, no, I'm going to stick around a little bit. They laughed him. That was a lonely feeling watching her black jeep going on out at the dirt road. And then I'm hearing. These things are screaming and hollering, and it's me, I guess they want. They want you, though, they're going to get you.

Walk to the front of the car and leaned up against the hood. Now, these things are in backing me now. I got my back at them, and they're just still screaming and holl. learning really carrying on one out. But I thought that this is it. I'm staying. I don't care if they tear me apart. In this episode of Bigfoot Society,

I'm re-releasing a special interview with Mr. Ronald, Ronnie Roseman. This time, Ra Uncut in its entirety, and also including the 40-minute Patreon portion for the first time to the public. This interview starts with a fascinating look at the 1999 Six Rivers National Force expedition led by Richard Greenwill and Mr. Roseman's involvement with the expedition. Ronnie then shares some of the most amazing Bigfoot encounters I've ever heard on the podcast, and I'm sure you will enjoy the episode. As always, thank you for listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast.

Please take a minute to subscribe, like, and share the show with a friend. All right, Bigfoot Society, we got the privilege of talking to Mr. Ronnie Roseman tonight. He's from the Pacific Northwest. He's got years of Bigfoot experience. And how are you doing tonight, Ronnie? I'm doing fine, yeah. A long time since I've been ready. Yeah, it's like the new version of radio in a way.

It's a lot of fun. Let's start at the beginning, Ronnie. So tell me what was it that first got you into Bigfooting years ago? I've always been weird. As a kid, I just was always attracted to mysteries and explained things and phenomenous and stuff at a very early age

I think it was fourth, fifth grade I got a book called Stranger Than Fiction by Frank Edwards I believe it was I read that and had something in there about the Obama snowman

so I got interested in that I think it was eight and then I was telling an aunt I had I lived in Southern California at the time

and I had an aunt that lived in Eureka which was 800 miles away California and she knew about me being interested in vinyl snowman so it was during the time that the road construction northern California

at Bluff Creek area was going by Ray Wallace there and she saved all the clippings for me on the Bigfoot because that's when the Bigfoot that's where the name of Bigfoot originated at the Bluff Creek area. During 1958,

I think it was, or 59. Okay. Yeah. So Jerry Cooney was seeing the tracks around his bulldozer. It went to the newspaper and Humboldt or whatever it was there, Eureka, but I, and then the picture was on.

Anyway, she saved all the newspaper clippings for me, and I didn't know it. So when she came down for Christmas, I got that as a Christmas present. So I got interested in Bigfoot at that time. I think I was nine years old. So that was my beginning. You were around 9 to 10 in the late 50s, what I'm hearing there. Yes.

Okay. Wow. So you were at an interesting age when the Patterson Gimlin film was released. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. definitely 57. I think I was

about 17 years old. See, how old was I at that time? 60. That was 67, right? It was 67. Yeah,

you would have been 16 or 17 years old, yeah. Yeah, that's when I got, I really got, I really got motivated. I guess a lot of people did

that you could look at it even at that age, and I didn't know anything, and I still don't know anything about these things. But at that, looking at that, on the movement and stuff, and just the way it moved, you could tell that it looked like

something always there, even though your family's looking at you weird. But yeah, that's when I really got motivated. So that's when I ordered a tranquilizer gun, and I paid 500 bucks for it down in the mail. They had these big dreams about shoot one of these things in the rear end. After seeing that picture, one of it someday, I'm going to get. get out there and thought about doing something like that. And, of course, I had a problem with tranquilizer, a drug, or something, what would you use? Would you want something for apes?

And I never did think that these things were apes myself, even though a lot of friends have about that John Green, Dr. Cranes, and great people, that I just didn't see that with the human-like footprints and stuff, which is most obvious, the first thing. I decided to go with something with Cernolin, and then I went around to pharmacists and stuff. I didn't know where to go and tried to get something like that. And I was asking around to get it, and most of the pharmacists, they said, no, we can't get you that,

we can't do that, or we can't get that or whatever. As one's pharmacist, I said, yeah, he said, that's for tranquilizing people or whatever. And then he said, yeah, maybe I can help you out, and give me your information. I didn't do that. I get scared or left. I realized that,

my gosh, I probably, I didn't want to tell him. I wanted to, oh, I think I did tell him. I think I told him what you wanted for us. Said something about I wanted to tranquilize Bigfoot.

And I think that give me a weird look. I left. I dropped that project, that idea, which I found out later wouldn't work anyway. But anyway, so trial and error from the beginning. That is amazing.

So was this in Southern California that this all took place then? Yes. Yeah. Wow. What a story. That's amazing. Oh, man. Thank you.

It might sound kind of dumb. No, it's awesome. These are the kind of stories that my listeners absolutely love. Did you first see the film then in a, I know it was shown in movie theaters a lot. Did you see it in a movie theater then? No, I didn't. You know something I don't remember. I think it was untie.

During that time period, so you were getting into your, your almost 20 in that time period right after the PG film. Did you seriously go out and start looking at that time besides trying to get the... No, I did not. Not at all that come at a much later date. I had read a little bit about these things. And I'm kind of using anyway, and I'm certainly not really an outdoorsman or anything like Hunter or anything. I did a lot of hiking, but it wasn't for looking for monsters, but I got to think about it.

And what I did find out about it, Peter Byrne, he's the first guy I contacted sometime in the mid-70s or something, but I realized Bob Pittman, she never seen one, that I know. Anyway, Peter Byrne didn't, John Green didn't, and Dr. Kranz didn't. And I thought, my God, you could dig it out to get a chance to even get to, glimps of these, one of these things, at a distance, much less close up. You could search all your life. And I just thought it wasn't feasible to go on for what, the time that was involved and everything else.

And not that they're not out there, but I was learning a little bit by the time I was in my 20s. I opted to collect snakes and stuff, and they did that for many years, went all the United States down the Everglades and different places. I always had these things in my mind. But I figured I'm collecting snakes to run across one of them. That'll be a plus, but not likely.

And so I didn't get into it until my real, what I could call an expedition was after I had gone and queen the late year, it was in the 90s, and late 90s. And I, by that time I was

I knew Richard Greenwell of the International Society of Cryptozoology. I don't know if you're familiar with him. I have heard of the society. Okay, he was the secretariat, and Dr. McHawrhyne was the vice president and Bernard Hooverman's was a president. And that was a day established, they were founded that, the Smithsonian. They were legit guys. And so me and Richard, we did a lot of build.

research started, but it didn't start until 98. And in 99, I went with him on, it was the second expedition that he had in the CISC years. And the first expedition that he had been with, was with him, Dr. Melgram, and a fellow by the name of Mark Slack, he was the guy, and then Darwin, which Richard's son. He didn't, but two years, that was in 1997. And I think it's in Dr. Milgin's book. He's got it in there, which was interesting. I didn't.

Of course, this was long before his book come out, but he tells what happened there when he was on the team back in there and that they was clamped in a metal where these things came in there at night and they were running in between their tents and stuff. They had stole their oak mill. And they had it down in the bags and these things took it out. They didn't make a mess like a barewood. and they heard him running back and forth,

and Dr. Meldrum was sitting in his tent, and ran down. He said one of them actually hit the guide wire or something on the, and jerked his tent running through there. But anyway, the next morning they checked it out, and the tracks were there. It was biped and the grass. Nothing is a good cast,

but the indentations of there, where they had been that come in during the nine. Richard was using a call blasting and stuff. So anyway, that was 97. Then Richard asked me if I wanted to go on the next one, which was 1999. And we went in June or June and July, I think it was, but it's only a window frame to get in there. It's just snow and stuff most of the year. It's only a couple of months that are really saved to get back in there.

It's about 40 miles back in. from Orleans and the canyon. It was a heck of a trick. We had the first is 500 pounds of equipment and food supplies and thermal imaging and everything else.

So we got back there and there was some results. And we called last in the canyons in the evening with what's purportedly Bigfoot screens and stuff like that. We had babies and how our monkey sounds

and baby sounds. humans and stuff. And we split up. There was a, the main camp, base camp, was Richard and his son. And then me and Angelo Caparillo. He was a biologist from the University of Chicago. We camped out about a mile away from there, our campus. And Angelo, he couldn't handle my snoring.

So he went 100 feet down the mountain somewhat. I was by myself there and something was coming around. And I'm going to say this because it's important. It has something to do with something that happened in my area recently. Now, this was 1999 in Fiskees, Northern California when this was going on. And after the call blasting one evening, I stepped out of the tent to relieve myself. And I heard something snap, a quick snap.

And right on the other side of it was a big canyon. But anyway, I heard it and that's all I heard. But we had to shoot a bear, I think it was just four or five days before that was stalking us. And actually was going to charge, we didn't have any choice. So I was thinking there. And I got back in my tent. I knew something was, I felt that something big was there.

And I had a pistol and mace, and I felt somewhat comfortable with that. Anyway, went through the night, nothing happened. The next night, about the same time of night, about 1 o'clock in the morning, I stepped out. I hear the twig snap, the same area. Of course, it's pitch black, but I get back in the tent. I told I'd go

We'd hike back to the base camp and have breakfast the morning and I told Richard he's the team leader and I had all the equipment and night equipment

and everything thermal imaging and night equipment infrared but I said we are you guys are to set this stuff around

my can I think something's coming around there and at this point I wasn't thinking Bigfoot I was thinking bear

but he said yeah maybe we should do that They talked to her, they didn't want to do it right then. They wanted to quit my word they were at. So the third name, I got out at the same time. I heard the trick's now. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago.

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And I had the corked on recone all around there before I set my gen up there. And I wanted as secure as possible. So I had set up next to undergrowth, some shrubbery, thick brush and stuff on one side of it. And then right behind it, there was a log. There was bowed. and not a log, but a limb. But it was bowed up just like a guard for a car if you were in a park right in front. It was just bowed up, just perfectly, went across level and then came back down.

And I had stood on that before I set my tent up there, and I jumped on it. I was 165 pounds, and I didn't budget, so it was solid. So I had that behind me, and that's where my head was where I slipped. So this third night, 100 quits, I seemed right from the, that area there was an animal trail and went all the way back and I came back around right behind my tent so I think whatever it was there

it did that but it was sometime during the night I heard that that branch or that big tree part just going like it was going down making a noise and I couldn't budge it jumping on it

so something heavy was pushed on it's right behind my head and then it went and then went but I could tell it was going back up so something didn't want to make

any noise and then right on the side I mean the right hand side of the tent right after that I heard this excuse me

don't jump but I got to trying to give me an idea but I heard only 10 times worse 10 times louder

so that of course it made me that was unnerving and I didn't know to think of that and I thought someone was going to come through my tents. So I sit there, Indian style all night with my pistol on one hand and mason the other.

Nothing happened. And it was years later, there's a lot more on that expedition. But I want to make a point because at least something happened there that got me in trouble. Many years later, like within the last couple of years here, I'm in Oregon right now, central Oregon, surrounded by mountains and woods. And that sounds, there was a few years after that with a friend of mine, I was over at his house, Retman, Mules Jr., I don't know if you've ever heard. I mean, Bigfootology had he established.

But anyway, I was over his house, and I had never heard the Ron Moore had tapes. I didn't know like a bottom on the Sierra Sounds. And I came off with that sound, and I was telling him the same story. That was years ago. and he said, he looked at me and says, I don't think you, because I was still thinking bear. I don't know anything about bears. Not that maybe, I don't know, sounded awful,

you know, scary for a bear to come up like a rough, but he says, I don't, this, my friend says, I don't think he's seen a bear, and he played me the more headstates. I see, that sounds, about the third one in with the aggressive sound, and it is almost an exact. And I think, holy,

thick. Maybe, yeah. I think one of those things was standing by my tips. I don't think he liked me being there. It was aggressive for sure. So, many years later,

coming up to now, I was introduced in an area by a hunter and, well, to somebody else that knew I was interested in Bigfoot. But anyway, I got a ministerian and right off of that, we started having things happening.

and my gosh, that's probably our two-hour talk right there and all that's just so I'm just going to keep to the point here for now. That sound I after being annoying these things over here we had to come in

in different areas and whistle from both sides, communicate or whatever camping. Everything was fine and this friend of mine is named Dwayne he's a rugged old hunter I don't think he's afraid of much. He's been charged by grizzly bears twice

and it didn't bother him. And he knew these things were up here but people didn't believe him. And anyway, I was introduced soon and I wanted to go up with me. Nobody did, but went up with him. I did. And we had some action.

It was going on, everything was fine. And then on the evening we were there, we're camping in this metal area. That's a good, pretty high elevation. It's back in a ways. and I was sitting in my chair sitting on the beer

and him and his dad we had grandpa there too and they were they went to lay down in the tent and was getting dust and I was sitting outside of the tent and the chair and I asked him

what kind of sound because he's been up there camping there and honey mostly by himself for over 40 years and knowing those things over there and over 40 years he only got to He won once, and it was about 300 feet. And only one time with them being there all the time,

so gives you an idea. But I asked him, I said, what can it sound you heard over the year's water? When you come out with something, whatever? So I said, I'm going to share a sound with you that I heard one time. So I came off with the one, I just was trying to come out with you. And if you hear that Ron Morheads tape,

a Sierra sounds or whatever, about the third one is it. So I did that and pretty loud. And I was just sitting there, and about 15 minutes later, 20 minutes or whatever, we heard these things coming from a distance, a long distance, just falling in a raisin' hill and screamed, something was very agitated,

and there was more than one. And they were coming our way. but the way he knew exactly what it was coming and I said ooh I said any of those sounds because these things

a couple of them were coming up like crazy agitated chimpanzees and another one was coming off sounding like a mad owl and another one was coming up like a coyote

and another one like a raven and all of them were going at the same time and they're headed our way and they're getting louder and so I said I asked him.

They were still in the tent. I said, do you ever hear anything like that? Do you see out? No, not quite like that. And I said, yeah, we know what they were. And I said, I think this is a premier of the coming attraction. And I got, got in the tent pretty quick with them.

They were just enough room with the three of us. And they're coming. They're getting louder. By the time they got to where we're at, it was totally dark. And they came, We could hear him coming in and circling and the back of the metal coming around

just within the tree line and they came directly behind our tent and just for an hour and a half they terrorized this. We actually didn't think we were going to live through the night. It was so bad. There's no way to explain it how intense it really was. But the two of them coming off like chimpanzees

and crazy chimpanzees and the other animals sounds. And you could tell they were running back and forth. And one of them was charging, bump, pump, pump, pump right up heavy. And just running it right up to the tent. And then it'd run back. And I did that every once in a while. They did it for about an hour and a half.

And every time the one that it was charging, you brace for impact because it felt like it was going to, he was going to come and take the tent and you with it and just go right on through. That's what you felt like. it was tough on a dime right at the edge of sound like right there at the edge of the tent before it came through and then run back. Yeah, that was pretty terrifying. And I wish that I could document that it would be something but it can't.

But anyway, they ended up going around the other side and did a complete circle actually. And I went back around and went back down the same way and you're going to keep going until they're, started fading out. Well, they were fading out and fading out until you couldn't hear me anymore. And that was a while. They'd turn in a way to a scared of Jesus out of it. And what's interesting

that one of the things that is, is that the day before I had, we were doing our recon around there, and we've seen a track of one, but it was a smaller track. It was probably about 12 inches, maybe a little less.

But they, you would just see the impression what it was and it was going a certain way and there was a tree right there too it looked like it and a little pathway like and that's when we were

I said let's get some food and put out in that tree I hadn't tried to put food up and I thought oh gosh I bet that a perfect tree that's crude up and stuff so we went to town

and we got bananas and we put them out and put him on the tree. Next morning, we went out and checked, and those tracks were coming from the tree, and the bananas were gone. And there were snow scraps underneath the tree or anything. Something had taken the bananas. So that's why we set up our camp right there.

I said our camp up here, so we did. So that evening, that happened. And, of course, they were anxious to get out of there. The grandpa, he never said a word or said anything. None of us were really talking. Not until it was over with, they were leaving. And the lesson of the stories of the funny one, but I'm going to skip it for now.

But next morning, everybody was in our right, as soon as we got daybreak, we were ready to go. But we were standing there for a little bit of talking, because I'm trying to figure out what the hell is going on. We'd have been going in there and we'd know they were coming around. And we hadn't had any problems. And they just went ballistic, crazy this night. And I was telling Dwayne, I said, my God, I wonder what happened.

Why did they do that? I'm thinking, because I was telling me that the younger one took the bananas it looked like from the tracks, he might have taken him back to the old man, and the old man might have got pissed off at us for giving his kids some food. I'm just trying to figure it out. And then he says, no. And this guy is a seasoned hunter. He's been all over a big game hunter.

he said no he said they were here for you I feel the shivers the shills go right down my neck I said here for me why but he says last night he said when you come up with this town he says I wasn't 20 minutes they were headed here

he says they came here for you oh shit so anyway we left and I did go back and I took him home and I went back all the because I had a friend as a big fun hunter.

It happened to be in a house. The house there at Don, and I don't know if you ever heard of him, but he was at my house. He came from Montana. It just happened to be when I came here that day. Patrick Camp out there. He's a big-time big hunter.

He's 80 years old. He's still going on it. He's quite a fellow. I told him, he said, go up there. Hell, I didn't want to go back. I was still freaking nervous. I took him back up there,

and we walked around and I found seeing where they came in it was like they just leveled the brush and everything. There wasn't anything. A big path where it must have been four feet wide where they came in and went through around

but it was too hard to see any really distinguished old tracks but it was all messed up scratched. You could tell them where the foot prints were back and forth nothing to cast it was hard ground but on the other side where they went out.

I found two tracts in softer areas. And the first one I've seen was I measured it by breaking a stick up. I didn't have any paper or measuring stuff. I broke a stick off and measured it a little later. But this one track was 15 inches and close to 9 inches. It was 18 inches long, close to 9 inches like at the ball and close to 7 inches at the heel. and not far from that there was another track

and then it stepped right down where it was soft foily or grass or green I don't know what you told this stuff but anyway it was heavy and it was spongy-like material underneath the canopy and a soft moist ground

right in this area and this thing had stepped right there and right down there right down to the ridge you see the root system of stuff I jumped on it in the area's right there at the track, and I jumped. And it's just like a sponge. It went down, and it came back up.

Just whatever, it was so heavy. It went right down and laid the bare route. And the track was 23 inches long and about nine and a half inches wide and seven inches out the heel. So that was the big daddy guy. And that's the one I guess I pissed off. Dwayne had said that he wasn't going to ever go back He'd been hunting over there over 40 years with him

And never was bothered But that really did it for him And pretty much me too And about a month later I wanted to go back up there And I went by and I asked him So let's go up there And let's just go and I said

I said Dwayne I said it's daytime It's summertime It's in the afternoon It's hot I said they're going to be out sleeping somewhere. I said, I wouldn't worry about it. Let's go up there.

Let's just go. And I talked him into it. And his daughter came along, the one they introduced me to him. And we went up there and are you still with me? Yes, Ronnie. I am just, I'm letting you talk because this is amazing. I'm doing my best trying not to ask questions, but this is amazing. I told you to somebody interrupt.

to me or taking us or doing something. It's taken me years to get to the point not to interrupt people. But I hope the guy didn't get hang up. I think this is so much closer. You're good. So anyway. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy

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And we got up there and parked right apart from the metal. And I had my car. They took their feet. His daughter took the Jeep. They drove in that, and I had my little green car. And we were parked right there on the access road right next to the metal. I was back in the middle a little bit. And we were there and if you hear some animals or birds chirping or something, you're usually okay.

There's a pretty good sign they're not there unless you want them. to be there. It was completely silent. That's a good sign that they're probably around. But these little birds were tripping on the other side of the meadow. It's a pretty good size of them. I know about 100 feet across or more at the front. And the birds, little birds, chirp, drip, chirp, trip.

I sound like little finches or something. But I'm hearing the birds, and I'm looking at the daughter. She's staring over that area. She's pretty smart girl. Nobody's anything. I'm looking over that way, too. She starts chirping. And then she's got like a pattern.

Shirp, kind of like a pattern coming from the little birdie over there, too. And she, yeah, it changed. It was different. The chirping, I'm still not, I'm not sure. She walks over there. It was about 60 feet. And when she got within 15 feet, the little birdie started picking up. up and tripping, trip, and getting excited.

Maybe birds can get excited, somebody walking towards them. But she didn't go any further. And still nobody's saying anything. We're just watching. And she turned around and walked back to us, me and her dad. And they were really going crazy. And then something else was happening. Two birds, two squirrels came off about that time off the distance.

And towards the bottoms, what it's called, audience and it's a fascinating area. That's the first place we camped out. When I went up there, I thought it was a good place. It's about hours hike down in there, and it's like the old growth and stuff and creek and cabbage and even tell, and part of the swamp and the other. I mean, a perfect place for those things. That's where we stayed the first night.

And we actually had two of them that night. That was long before this, you know, and you have to keep up with me if you can, I get sidetracked sometimes, but I'm going to get back to what I was saying. But that first night, we had a whispered both sides. The next morning, we figured what it was. The next morning we knew going out of the bottoms, hiking starting to hike because the rocks were hitting the trees ahead of the scissors going out. So that confirmed what it was. But that's when it was okay.

We weren't having a problem. Now it's changed. Now we're there. got the daughter and she's back and two squirrels the bottoms that are in the direction

of the bottoms they're going off crazy and Dwayne said and he didn't know his wildlife or the worms right on up but he said that something's coming this way and it wasn't just

right after he said that we could hear him come and it was the same prick and sounds that night Now, this is 3 o'clock in the afternoon, and they're coming. That crazy chimpanzees sounds and the wolf sound are that coyote rather and the raven and owl. All the five of them, I counted five, the way and thought there was a lot more than that. But I'm going by the sounds, I thought there was a live.

But a way, getting louder and louder, just like the night, except this is daytime. And they knew we were there. And it's like this second time they're going to have to prick and warn us, you know. But they come up there and the under girl on the other side of the matter was probably about 100 feet away. And they came up to that. You could tell they were right there screaming and hollering. It sounded like surround sound amplified and echoing. It's just so loud.

And they weren't coming out in the open. They were right there and screaming and hollering. Duane asked his daughter, he said, do you want to leave? Because she was pacing back and forth. She said, yeah. And I got in the car and laughed. He asked me, he said, you come in there.

I don't know why, but I said, no, I'm going to stick around a little bit. And I'm not a brave person. I don't know why I do some things. I can't believe why I do some things. But anyway, they laughed at him. That was a lonely feeling, watching her black sheep going on out.

The dirt road, tree, woods on both sides of that. And then I'm hearing. These things are screaming and hollering. And it's me, I guess they want. And I'm staying, which sounds crazy. And I'm looking at my car. It's about 20 feet away. And it's pointed in a direction that is a dead end on that road.

So I get in and I have to turn around. And I got a pretty good idea of these things. The primary ports, these things aren't can move. They're quick. they want you they're going to get you I'm thinking my gosh

I don't want them to have to think about it they might just changing that car getting in there and turning around and taking a little time I'm

I don't like to but I start walking towards the car because of closer to it I am the safer I feel and I as I'm walking towards

it's like I got two voices in my head one saying get the hell out of here run go and the other one's saying no if you go you're going to kick yourself and the butt the rest of your life this is why you're here

and I said it just kept going back and forth as I'm walking towards a car because I wanted to get out of there but I didn't I walked to the front of the car and leaned up against the hood now these things are in backing me now I got my back at them and they're just still screaming and

hollering and really carrying on. And I was determined that one voice, whatever was, I won out. But I thought that this is it. I'm staying. I don't care if they tear me apart. I'm staying here. And as soon as I thought that,

I'm not really into the spine-speak stuff, but it was almost like, because as soon as I thought that I'm staying here, even if they'll have, even if they tear me apart, as soon as I thought that. another sound joined in with them. And it was the most hideous, deep, gurgling growl.

I like straight from hell or something, and it was loud. It just as loud as them, and they were so loud already, and it was just a growl. And as soon as I heard that, because this fellow sounded real serious. I was already bad enough. And when that joined in, I thought, oh, I changed my mind. And I walked around slowly to my car and opened the door and just still going.

But as soon as I sat down, I hadn't even closed the door yet. It was silence. They all shut up. Which I knew right then they did what they accomplished what they wanted. So I drove out of their slow, turned around, got the car turned out. and drove back out. I had to be within probably 60 feet of or something back in there in the brush.

I had the windows down. It went slow. Didn't hear a thing. You wouldn't know that anything was there. And I yelled out the window on the way on. I said, I love you. I don't know why I did that. But I went out in there.

I thought, whoa, boy, that's it. My big foot days are over. And I thought, I'm content. I don't need it. I don't need that. That's just too much. and I went back home and I was glad to be relieved

because I don't want to go but then again it started bothering me and I thought holy shit I'm just thinking about it I can't get off my mind and I it's like a loose end or something I'm leaving something and I didn't feel good about it

but I'm terrified to go back and I ain't got nobody to go with me either I'm alone and I just wanted to go back, but I'm not going to go back especially and push the envelope two stern warnings at least. One, at least you thought

that first time you really thought you were going to die. And these things can scare the hell out of they're not delay. They can terrify you. It's no wonder, I believe that, and I've interviewed a lot of people over the years, and military people that have been through this

and been through combat without fail somebody that's had combat and had an experience with they, just seeing them, I don't think as bad as what we went through have said that this is more frightening or more terrorizing than being in a war.

And I know where they're coming from, at least with this experience. But anyway, that I'm laying here and I thought, I felt guilty too because Dwayne had told me, he said, now he says, I never had a problem with him

until I brought you up here. And I'm thinking, my gosh, this is awful. And it took me two weeks laying on my back and thinking about it. And I thought, my God, I want to go back. And I'm just going to take a lot. They have to have a reason. And I thought, God, I wonder if I could change it around. If I could change it around and get them back where they're not pissed off and agitated,

maybe that would be worth a try. That's the only way I would go back if there was a chance. And I thought of it, gosh, I'll go back with the food. They wouldn't touch that food either, that they walked by those bananas. We had fresh, put bananas back up in there after the younger one had taken them. And this thing's went in that night, and they passed that tree up twice. They was going in and coming back out. And they didn't touch no bananas.

They didn't want them. They were too. That's how pissed they were. But so anyway, I thought about it, and I thought, God, this evening, it's really. It's really simple, but that's the way of music, right? I'll get some stuff maybe and go back and put some food up in the tree, and this time I'll take a guitar and sing a little bit. And it took me a while.

I don't know what it was after I thought about how many days I said, thought about it. I was terrified to even think about it, doing it. One morning I did it, I just got up, and I just said, I'm doing it. I'm going, and I went by the supermarket, and I got it. some fruit and stuff and I went up there put in the tree, I had a chair and a six-back in my guitar and I put the food up in the chair

and the tree is back in away from the access road about 100 feet. So when I'm putting the food up takes 10 or 15 minutes, put it off through the tree and I looked back and that would have been my worst nightmare I was saying oh my God I hope doing this I don't look back and when I'm standing there by my car or in between me and the car and have a heart attack

but it didn't happen. So I did that and I did it before I got in reality I was doing it for three months. There was about three weeks in the between that I didn't because a bearer caught on and he just made a mess of everything getting the food and containers I had and everything

I'd stay the way for over a week hoping he'd go away by then come back and he'd been done a couple of days later he came back in. So I stopped it for another two weeks. Then I started putting the fruit back up, doing my thing and singing and playing the guitar, all together with all this.

And sometimes the fruit or whatever I'd have it. It would totally rot twice. It rotted and go back up there, and it's all certain. And nothing touched it. That happened twice within that three months. And I don't know why that happened. somebody out there from mayhem know

but the rest of the time that other animals are critters the ravens, the birds and squirrels or whatever, would get the food, apples or whatever. But they always left droppings and food parts

or whatever, banana peels or the end of it or whatever, there's always a mess no matter what got into them. After doing that, like I said, three months I was persistent at it

and I was just scared of death every time I had it out of here to drive up there, but it did it anyway. And this one day, I go by and get some food and take it back up. And nothing was happening up there. Boy, the second time we went up there, didn't take them want to know we were there in the daytime and coming after our ass. How am? I've been there for almost three months.

And there was some silent times there, but no activities, no sounds, no nothing. So I don't know. I'm sure those things. This is an established area. no doubt about that. And I'm sure they were there at some time during that three months, and yet they, I don't know, they must have been sit back and maybe watch me and watching this crazy fellow that came back after threatening to kill me twice.

Maybe they thought it was crazy and wanted to study me. I don't know, but nothing happened. No sounds going to anything. But anyway, towards the end of the third month, I went by the supermarket and I don't know if this, had anything to do with it. Coincidence. I don't think it did. I think someone happened anyway, but I

got some fruit and I got some bananas. Oh, and I was taking up peanut butter at that time to peanut better sandwich. But I had gotten a blackberry cobbler, a half of one. And I had it in a container, a clear container where you could see through it

and it snapped on the sides like a pie container. You've seen them. They're clear. You can see through them and they snap on the side. But I took it all up there, and I put the bananas, peanut butter, or through the limbs, and tied some of the food and stuff up from the bottom and the top. And on the cobbler, I put it in a clot bag, shopping bag. It was cloth.

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I had a dozen bananas around the tree. They weren't there. I could tell that when I'm approaching the tree, they weren't there. And I'm looking down at the ground, there's no mesh. All these other animals have always made a mess, no matter what it was or left part of

something. There's no mess as clean. And I'm thinking, oh, that's a good sign. And now I'm looking at that. bag with the cobbler in it. I take it down and look at it. And the container's still in the bottom, but the cobbler is gone.

And the bottom of the container is clean. So I can only imagine maybe something licked it clean. And it would snap back shut. And it was still in that bag up there. Woohoo. They started taking the food. And I go back to town. to tell Duane, I said,

Duane, you got to come up. I said, you've just got to come up. I want your opinion on this. I took him up there, and I put the bag up eight feet. I took it down and showed him, told him no scraps around here and all that. And I look at that. This is clean in here. This is a container.

It's clean. And what really got him, that it had been snapped back. And he told me, he said, I don't know. He says, I don't know if anything would have could have done that. And I knew I was successful at that point on that.

I took him back. I put some more food up. I put 12 apples up after that. And I went back up by myself. Every time I really have to get my nerve up to go back up there. But I went up there next day and I can tell walking up to the tree,

apples are gone. And I'm looking around. There's no scraps. and oh boy and I'm looking there's one apple on the lowest limb that I put one down below

and it's right there there was one apple and it hadn't been touched and I don't know but I'm thinking hey it might have been a fetal like peace offering

we're good at least that's the way I wanted to think of it and so I did the little singing thing and I left did the same thing and repeat it to come back gone

no sounds know nothing and did my little sing thing left. I come back I think it was about the fourth

time and I come back and now I'm sitting there I put the food up and I go sit in my chair and step on a

beer and start playing and now I'm hearing whoop I'm hearing the whips and little high-pitch sounds and stuff

and back me back in the woods a little bit and I said oh boy I did it I'm thinking I did

I'm still nervous, I'm scared. I'm not really thinking it that way of until the next time. And I know it's these things back in there for the whips and stuff. And just like the sound you hear that people say they've recorded and the whipping. So now I'm hearing it for the second time. And it just dawned on me. I succeeded in what I wanted to do to turn it around. And I don't know why I didn't think that before, but I didn't.

And all of a sudden it hit me. It was like 100 pounds of weight just went right off my shoulders and stress and stuff. And so it was all right. It was great. And I felt good. It was comfortable. It's a pretty amazing feeling to be connected in some way to something like that. It's just hard to explain like connecting with another world or something.

And on a friendly basis, too, gosh, what a feeling. But I did my thing. I drive out of there. And I don't know. And had it happen a lot. I kept going back. And they were there waiting for me. But I was scared.

Every morning, I was just, I had all I could do to get my nerve up. Even though it had been pleasant, it was still nerve-wracking that they'd go back. Once I was there and they were doing the thing and I was playing the thing. It was fine. But I was always scared the next morning to go up. And I don't know why, but I was. And so it was really. interesting. I had done it and I'd changed it around and had what a feeling.

So I'm glad I didn't sit on my ass or rest my life wondering about it. So I did that and it really got interesting. But I still didn't want to go by myself. And I wanted company or somebody to listen something. And there's a fellow, a big guy, works out, he's a Mexican fellow. And he's been to prison and all this stuff. but he's actually a good guy like he was a friend. He'd not end to this big foot or stuff or anything in the woods or whatever,

but he knew what I was doing. I thought he lives in the adjutant before I start off in the road to go back up there. And I don't want to draw by just for the hell of it and see if he wants to go because I want a company. And he surprised me. He said, yeah, I'll go with you. So he did.

Now, all these stuff had been happening with me. So now I'm taking him up there. and we get right to this place, right by the metal, go right and close the tree, it's not too far. As soon as we pulled him, as soon as we got out of the car, I'm ahead of him, walking towards the tree, and he's behind me,

and those things started off with weapon and stuff, but a little more aggressive. There was some stomping, and a little bit, it was just a little bit different, and maybe a little intimidating, and especially somebody that never experienced anything. And I looked back in him and his eyes were really good bowls right out. And the look in his face was priceless.

He said, I think I want to go. And I said, I said, Sal, I said, this is, I said, it's just getting started. I want to go. I said, I had to take him out of her. But I did that a couple of times. I took another fellow up there, some time in between. It wasn't very often, but I could find someone to go. But he walked back in their little bit,

a big stomp on the ground and a smell. I never ever smelled anything with him, but this guy I did. And he was a hiker, hiked the mountains of stuff, never had an express. He didn't want to come back either. I took the one that was really interesting.

Third guy I took back up there. He used to live here in this small town. He hunted elk and deer and stuff. He was a hunter. And he was interesting, Bigfoot. I had a bear it. But he was interested in big fun.

I talked to him about it when he lived here. And he was just intrigued with it, but he had never seen any evidence. I'm in here for 13 years. And he got divorced, so he went to New York where he's got family. But he comes out here about once a year and spends a few days with some family, his kid and stuff. Anyway, he was out here. He gave me a call, and he wanted to spend a day with me before he went back to New York.

I said, yeah, it'd be great. So he came over. I didn't tell him anything yet. And when he showed up, I said, hey, I think I know where Big Phuss at. And he got excited enough. That's great. So we went up there. I always thought that these things knew because they were there waiting for me when we had this going.

And I had, I figured they knew when I was coming because of my car. And if I remember, right, and I think that we took his van. And we were up there. and probably maybe 10 minutes before the area that I stopped at where the tree is and the metal. I mean, it's all woods and mountain there. You can't see. And it's a ways away yet. And we're driving up there towards it, and I got the food and everything, but I hadn't heard the sound up there yet.

I did hear it in the Ciscuits in Northern California, but I heard the sound that, Sounds like an air raid, you know, that one. And he heard it, and his eyes got big. And he looked at me and he pointed. And I said, of course, by this time, I'm used to him, pretty used to him being there. Even though I hadn't heard that sound before, they hadn't come off with that one up there. And I looked at him and I said, yeah, I said that fellow, he's just,

he's letting us know that he knows we're coming or he's gathered in the troops. we made it and we arrived to the spot we get out and as soon as we got out the trees we're always part the tree's not far

there was a grunt coming from the other side of the metal on the other side of the road away from the tree it was several hundred feet I'd guess

about 300 feet back and I checked that out on the YouTube later on after I got out of there and it was guerrilla it sounded just like a brookin gorilla Anyway, he heard that grunt

And he's not saying anything We're silent But he pointed me and looked I said, I just shook my hand And about a minute later That was on the other side of this metal we're looking at And then on the other side of the metal It's a grunt came off again

And he said, I take sentence encircling us And I said, yeah, I do too That's what you would think It was in sequence A grunt there, a little bit of grunt like something's going this direction and a grunt

further down in the same direction going. And then about a minute later there was a grunt behind us behind and I think of all across the road further down the access road now it's behind us on the left because it grunt there. About a minute

later there was a grunt behind us on the other side of us behind us. And so that's five grunts and it sounded just like something encircled us. And so he's this guy, he's not your typical fella. Most people wouldn't, that would have been enough. They'd wanted to get him out of there.

The screen would have done it before we got back in there. He was excited and he's just looking around and he's a big guy. He's like an old hillbilly or something, but he's already got a good heart. And he's just excited and he's looking around and stuff. And I wonder what he's looking for. I'm leaning up in his car and he sees a tree. branch of limb and he says, can I grab that and whack that tree? I don't make any sounds, but he deserved it. I'm just, I was more interested in him at this point and I was the Bigfoot.

But I said, yeah, I said, plus he has permission. Gosh, I don't get that much respect usually. It's pretty neat. So I said, yeah, take it, go ahead and grab it and go ahead and go ahead, do it. I said, I don't do it because I don't know what I'm conveying, but go ahead. He whacked it once. he whacked it twice and then he whacked it the third time and the third time he did it those five grunts from those five positions

came off at the same time we were already surrounded what do you think of that how do you figure that one out I'm still here dude this is nuts okay I have a clarification question real quick

I don't want to distract you at all but how long ago was this about two years ago. Two years ago, Ronnie? Yeah, I couldn't get back in there. I would have continued doing what I was doing, but I had to go to Florida for a while. I ended up seven months there,

and that was the beginning of spring a couple years ago, and then I got back here, and there was a fire going, so I couldn't get back in there. Then winter was coming. There was snow. Then the next year, I freaking fire again. And so I haven't been able to get back in there.

been blocked off. I did manage for a little while. One of the fires I got back up in there, and I put a food back up in there. I haven't been able to get back and check it out. And right now, it's still snow up in there and muddy and I'm afraid I'll get stuck. It's the ways back in.

So I haven't been able to get back up in there, but I did get up there for a little bit before I had problems again, because I was worried that the fire had taken this whole area out. I thought, oh, God, that'd be my luck, an established area with a family of these things, and it couldn't destroyed. In fact, that's what everybody was saying, fire workers, that guys are ahead of these fires,

or directing, or whatever, because I was asking around, they said, well, pretty much, that's gone. It wasn't. I got up when there was calm, and you get access to get back in there and stuff. Heck, the growth back in this area where these things were, was twice as thick, the end of growth there, so it's even better. And I seen deer there, too.

So I'm thinking that all that smoke and activity and everything, but they would have had to left, but whether they came back or not, not sure, but I got a feeling they probably would. And it hadn't been in touch, so that was great. As soon as I get back up in there, I'm going to try to be sure. Yeah, but it's only been a couple years since I, and I left on good terms. Ronnie, can you share anything about, can you share anything about where that area or the general location of that area

is for context. I get it. I totally get that, Ronnie. Can you, is it, are we talking? Can you at least share the state? Oh, it's Oregon. It's Oregon. Okay.

In fact, I'll tell you this. I'll tell you the city. Yeah, I can tell you that. It's not a city. It's a town. It's about two or three miles long. Surrounded by mountains. And there's places, Eugene.

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Yeah, I did you? I'll tell you something funny. And funny because he was really happy that I was up there with him. And we'd go up there and at the beginning, he'd say, This is my research area. And John Ed is saying, every once when he'd say that. He had in the car one time because he'd been up there. And we'd had some other, just other things that happen.

I don't know how much time with that. But I have time. He said, this is, that one time he's saying, this is our researcher. And he said, there I go. He said, I'm staying our research area now. And I thought that was kind of nice. But when we were coming up, when he said, he spotted that track. He just excellent as a track, track.

tracker and animals. And when he's seen that track coming from the trees, that's where I got, that's where I got to get to put that food up in that tree. He's seen that. And I said, God, yes, he had to point it out to me. I would have walked right over. That's when he hit me on the bag and said,

this is our research area. That was pretty nice. That makes you feel good. But that night, when we, I said, let's camp out here. That's what I should do in that metal over there. We'll put up our tent against, up against the tree. And of course that night, they came in, and doing that, and went through all that.

And after they left, we're still here leaving. And Dwayne's, he's cussing, he's, Samput! Son of it! You're so much. Just going on and think, oh, shit, and this guy's got a temper, I know. And I'm thinking, oh, God,

he's not just to me for getting him in a situation. I'm the one suggested camping here. And he's just a cuss of him, cussing. I ain't saying nothing. No, grandpa. he's right in the middle of us. He never did say anything. I thought he was pretty brave,

and I found it later on, he was terrified. He ain't ever going back out in the woods, Grandpa. But Duane, he's just cussing away. I just finally had to say something. I said, Duane. I said,

what are you cussing at? He says, I'm cussing myself. I'm cussing myself or getting myself in this situation. And I said, we could still hear him fading out, though. I said, Duane, they're leaving. I said, you said, yeah, they're gone.

He said, they're not coming back. Because I didn't know that 100%. I didn't feel they were. At that point, they didn't hurt us. They didn't kill us. And things don't warn you that much anyway. I just thought we're okay. They accomplished their mission, scared of the Jesus out of us.

Because that doesn't mean they can't change your mind. But I told them, I said, they're not coming back. And he said, how do you? you know. I said, they're just not. They did what they wanted to do. They held out of us, we won't come back. He kept cousin anyway. And at that point, I was going to go to sleep. I actually felt okay. I'm pretty much anyway. Not all, not 100%.

He just kept cousin. I said, Duane, what? I said, this is our research area. He said, this is your research area. I don't want to be a researcher. That is hilarious. Oh, that was classic. Oh, man. That's such a good story, Ronnie.

Thank you for sharing that. That's amazing. And it just happened two years ago. Wow. Oh, yeah. Early recently, I got a feeling back there. My idea was to keep pushing the envelope slowly after I had reestablished, they were okay, and they were there. I thought, my gosh, every step you take with something like that.

It's just crooked hair raising. It's scary stuff. But I thought, I made it that far. I looked back and it seems surreal. I just can't imagine me that brave to go back up there, especially after the dangerous as they sounded those two times. And I went back up there by myself. And I just can't, I find that hard to believe.

Because I just stayed that brave. But I did it. It's weird. But it's like there's another me or something. So I figured, gosh, things are going along good, even though I'm still nervous about going up there. I'm just guessing maybe a year, within a year, because I thought from there, I got the trust.

I think that one apple was left for me. And these things are not trusting. It takes a lot. These events, circumstances have to happen the way they did. I don't think it would have. I don't think what they ever did. I thought, God, if I do that for a year straight and even get them more trust,

trusting him. Of course, I'd probably have to stay up there at night. I hadn't got my nerve up yet to do at night. This daytime stuff, even with them being nice, I feel scared to go up there to stay at the night. But I figured up to do this for a year, I might get to meet them, see them. I'd probably have to do it at night

where they'd feel safer where they can get closer to you. But that was my goal. And then all the stuff happened with the fires and everything, and just messed everything up. If I can continue it, that's what I think I'll try to do that. Now I'm nervous again. I'm like starting over, I almost. I don't know how dynamics have changed, if they've changed,

or maybe they're moody, maybe somebody joined the group that doesn't like people. There's all kinds of, a lot of things go through your head. And I want to find out as soon as I can get, they still muddy and still up there now. But as soon as I can, I'm going to get back in there and tinker around with it some more. so great stuff but I I got to

I gotta tell you this one before we I have a quick question Ronnie to throw in would you take people to that area again oh no not unless I really knew

I did get some guys together before and I was going to put a group together and actually I took a lot of time doing handpicked to people

and stuff Most of the people here think you're something wrong with me. That goes with the territory, with any place on this stuff. I'm used to that. That doesn't bother me. But there's a few people, and most of the people, people that have this stuff, there was people that come on the side, because I got the reputation around here as being the Bigfoot guy,

which most people, 95% of them think of Joe. But there's the people come to you on the side that have done something to happen that don't want, they have to leave it, and they don't want to go through anything negative. There's several. In fact, one guy's a game hunter up here. That's how he makes us a living. He doesn't want to know him either, but he's a great guy.

He sees tracks quite a bit and stuff, but he don't want it known. He's so I got a few. But anyway, I was putting that team together. I had about a half a dozen guys. And I got a man a guy that used to a guy, a real military guy. He rolled a medals and what he volunteered for, and a sergeant, Marine sergeant. and thought, God, I need somebody to have this. He's perfect.

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So we'd all agree with that. Everybody agreeing on it. I had two professional hunters and stuff and they knew something about this stuff and it was all great. We had a great team.

And I was up there with one of them after a month or two into this stuff and he just looked it, which just being him up there and one of these hunters and he is. He said,

he said, I'm going to kill one. I just looked at him and said, what? I didn't even say anything. He looked at me and he was just staring at me. He said, I'm going to kill one. He said, it's the only way you're going to prove this. I'm a son of my bitch. No, no.

I think these things knew had an idea about him because he had done quite a bit of looking around, doing up, and I think they'd know evidence at all. He never seen anything. and he told me that nothing less good. I said, they were there. But I think they got a beat on it. These things are freaking super smart.

It's just unbelievable. They're so smart. I can't figure these things out. It's like an oxymoron. They're like primitive and barbaric guys. They're just, they're brutal. They're strong. They're wilds.

Run down a freaking deer and elk and kill it and eat it raw and all that stuff and then be so super intelligent. That's smart. Everything you do, they're already ahead of you before you think of something. I just said it's one hell of a phenomenon. I don't know what to think about it.

The deep you get into it, that proverbial rabbit hole or whatever it is, you just get steep and you just don't, it just seems hard to try to explain it. And we don't even know what the hell they are. Obviously they're there. What hell are they?

I just, I don't know. But it's just great stuff. What a phenomenon. No, I'm nervous. I'd really have to know somebody. I'll never do that again. In fact, we had the teens with scouting, looking, nothing ever happened. Didn't see anything.

Since I've been by myself, I've done around, I hear him, I've seen tracks, I cast one of them, and I do better by myself. And the three times I brought people up there that the three times something happened, And I'm convinced that they didn't want me bringing anybody there. They elevated the intimidation factor a little bit. Every time I brought some money, that was all intimidation stuff. And they didn't want to come back except the hillbilly. But he had to go back to New York, so he didn't come back.

Me, they weren't worried about me not coming back. They know I'm crazy after what I went through with them. I've got to tell you this one. I just one. I don't know how much time you got to whatever. Ronnie, I have the time. It all comes down to how much time you have. I have the time, though.

We're good. This is me. I've got a lot of things that can talk about. I go on forever. But this is the most important factor now because it's so recent and stuff, and there's still possibilities. I was told, had by one of the hundred guys with it.

If that was a guy that wanted to kill one. And I dissed myself from him, hoping he'd go away. And I guess you did. but he's one that told me that I've heard it before that during hunting season these things leave an area they're in an area

and that makes sense guns going off people coming in they leave an area I thought now this is they're there every time I go up there whooping and stuff and I thought God that's a good time to maybe test that

so hunting season was coming around first it was deer and then there was elk season and I believe anyway I went up there and took for six back of the food ups and I am sitting there and I'm laying in the thing

and they're a whipping in the background and I can almost picture them fucking dancing back there or something that's because you could tell they're moving because they're whipping and stuff and all of a sudden they're quiet then they just kept no quiet and

you're coming 200 on four-wheelers one of the they both had rifles and one of the cavalasasas and then they pulled up

one behind the other and I'm sitting in the chair with a beer playing a good daughter and he gets says boy you sure know how to do it said yeah

I just did here and wait for him to come to me and he said we haven't had any luck when they're talking about honey and they talk for about 20 minutes

and they said oh take it easy and said yeah when they left they got on down the ways a little bit. They started whipping again and going. About 40 minutes later, I'm still sitting there drinking a beer

and playing and singing there whooping all the people. They're having a good time. And another hunter come along and a four-in-older, they stopped until he left, the same thing. And I know so much for that theory. I mean, these things are so confident that hunters, people don't bother them. They just remain hidden so well.

you're just not going to know they're there. They're not bothered by people. They're not bothered at all. They don't have to let you know they're there. That's how good they are. It's just amazing. So, yeah, they were there during hunting season. All right, hunters didn't bother.

So great stuff. Have you heard any, you mentioned you'd heard other reports from the same area as well? Yeah, my summer law, was a cop here. He finally got away from that after 10 years, but he was a cop here at the time. And he got the call. I'm in bed.

He comes in the house and he says, hey, just got a bid for a report and whatever he's trying to tell me. I said, give me the details of the information. Let me talk to the guy tomorrow. He took him off. He had a fresh report, which I don't hear very often.

And I, he wanted me to give it. I did it for animals. I said, I think it's got to be a frickin' wild goose chase. I said I've been on this before. I know better.

I'll know where it's out in the direction of all this stuff and he actually followed this cop car out about 20 miles or something in the road and then he stopped me and said right back in there

you'll see a big tree and stuff or fish black could have got the headlines but I anyway, you're supposed to see in this thing

close up and he was cutting logs or something and I go back in it. I knew better. It was stupid, but they'd go back in. Trees all over the place. I can't find nothing the way to find nothing. He's a better cop, and he was a big footer.

So I drove around for a while. You don't know where to hell to stop her exactly this happened. I went back home. I went out the next day and I think he went out to show me. Yeah. I write where it happened and stuff. And there were some damn detation tracks. I couldn't make other than a good trash, right?

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it's hard to tell where your flight ends and vacation begins. Hawaii starts here. You had to pick up and this one up and it was getting dusk. And he looks up and right up on this ridge above him a little bit of an elevation. Only about 15, 20 feet away. He said, things standing there looking at him. And he said he didn't pay attention to it right away. He said he looked back and just kept on cutting.

He said he thought there's a man standing there, that's what he thought. He wouldn't get into it. People do this a lot with these things for some reason. I've seen a man. When they actually, I think, no, they know that they didn't see it all. And anyway, I said he looked again, and he said, yeah, he knew. And I said, he stood up. He said, just staring this thing, just staring at him.

And he said that he cocked his head. So look a little bit more, because the trees are right behind this thing. And the thing caught his head at the same time, just like he did. Like it was either mimicking or whatever, but he caught his head, just like he did. did. And that was enough. He was in that pickup and he was gone. Left his tools aside, everything. And on the way

he ended town, he called the cops. He wanted to tell it, but he did not want anybody in town knowing it. And he came by with his couple of kids, two good little girls, funny, great little family. He came by and stayed for a couple

hours and went to it and talked to him about it. And We never say anything about it to anybody. So, you get reports. There was a guy here about three months ago, whatever, during the summer, wouldn't that God, it's been more than long or not. The gas station, I have no doubt the guys telling the truth.

They had to make this stuff. Didn't go around, stop telling us big first stories. Where they had the gas station. I pulled in and he said, looking at the mountain up there, and there's a matter up there. I know they come through there because I've been here long enough talk to people

and people I know they're not lying and they come through here around the ridges and stuff but people don't even know it that's amazing but this guy was like he says I've seen a big foot up there and I just got out to get gas

and he said where he said that matter right there and he said that there was elk and he says it ran out from the woods into the metal and he said it was scared you could tell and he stopped and it was looking around.

And then it started bolted again, and it was going to the woods on the other side of the mountain. He said out of the tree line came this man, but it wasn't a man. He says it was dark. It wasn't closed. He said it was dark. It didn't look like clothes.

He said, just hauling ass after it across that metal. And so you get him here. I talked to the biologist here years ago. He said the only thing he's seen in 30 years of it He said, what tracks? He said he cast up. Lastra gas one. He said they had, there were four toes.

I don't understand that unless they're muted. I don't know. Ronnie, real quick. I was just going to ask you that actually. I've talked to gentlemen where, and also in Alaska, too, there are reports that there are four-toed Sasquatch that are extremely aggressive, especially in the Mout Hood area. So that could be what they were.

Yeah, so he saw a four-toed track in that area. Oh, he's a biologist. He wasn't lying to me. Wow. Everything. In fact, he told me, I said, did you ever show anybody or whatever? And he said, I took the guy up in the Bigfoot researcher. He was up in the high mountain hood.

And I said, Parkville. He says, yeah. That's his name, Peter Burn. He says, yes, it was. That was it. He said, he took that track to Peter Byrne. you know who Peter Burn is. Oh, absolutely, yeah.

Definitely know who Peter Burn. So he was that four-toe track around the Oak Ridge area then, or? No, you know something. I don't remember. It's been yours. Okay, no problem. Yeah. I was in the state here, but he had worked here and Washington, too,

but he was 30 years and the forest biologist, but I don't remember. He was in Oregon, but I don't remember exactly where. But he said he had the cat. He said he wished what he took it. He said he left it at the department. But he said that he thought, he said Peter Burr told him he thought it was real. It was good size too. I think it was like 17 inches, I think he said.

But he says the depth of it. He says, and the woods. And he says somebody to fake it. He says, of the impact. He said the depth of it and the stride. And he said the four toes. He said, why would something? gonna take a truck why would he

why would somebody make four toes so he cast it in yeah but there's stuff around here I go on and on with a few reports they're not every day of course but yeah they're around here some people aware of it most of or not ones that are really don't

I'm sorry go ahead the ones that really the ridiculous are the ones that the hunters that don't ever see any evidence they probably overlook a lot of and don't even know it but I of them. But it's interesting

in the other flip of the coin there too most of the reports that come in from one idea are from hundreds but the hunters

that makes the reports are in the minority because not everybody goes out and see something like this so interesting Ronnie your files must be just

amazing the things that you've the reports you've taken over the years it must be an incredible collection

oh gosh I I, from all over, I, from here to Florida, the Falk, the South Mountain stuff, I made multiple trips down there, actually moved there, stayed there for two months on one of them. That's the only way of getting everybody to talk to me. You've got a small town like that, and ain't nobody going to talk to some crazy California coming out, looking for monsters. I had to move out there.

And after a couple of weeks, they sure changed around. I had people knocking at my door and everybody had their Falk Monster explanation that had lived there all their life I don't think any of them were right but it was fun and they didn't want to meet in town either

they didn't want to be seen with no Monster Hunter that make an agreement meet them in Texarkana or at their farm or something yeah I've got some stories there interesting great stuff

that'd be another hour Did you ever get any reports from Iowa? I'm personally from Iowa. I'm just curious. No, when I get reports, I don't, I like, as far as my own, my personal, my own reports, that I can rely on them for sure. But I think a lot of people are telling the truth, but that's them. I like my own stuff, but I know they're in Iowa.

I spent some time in Montana, Idaho, and Oregon, Washington, and Arkansas and Louisiana and Florida. So Louisiana is fascinating me. The honey on a swamp monster. Just another notch of another level going up and no self-respecting Bigfoot hunter

is going to admit or say anything credible about that. I've talked to them. They've done their investigations. They all think it's a hoax. I don't think so. Oh, really? I'm done some tips. No, I don't think it's a host skull.

No, I've got a lot of stuff on it. Nobody can prove anything, but that's in a risk. That'd be another hour or two talking about that. Have a feeling we might be talking hopefully more than once. That's up to you, of course. Oh, I don't mind at all. I'm going to start talking. I haven't talked for most of the life.

I only did a few radio shows. In fact, two of them that I did was because you know who M.K. Davis is. Yes, I do. I've talked to M.K. before, yep. Yeah, he's a good guy. He is. He's a long time. And it's an excellent researcher. And what he does with those analyzing those films and stuff is just great.

But I don't agree with him on everything either. But we always got along. I like him. But we've 15 years at least or whatever, we never agreed on this Honey Island Swamp. There's something there. I don't see any evidence and whatever. And he come out with a 15-minute video, what, about eight years ago, and whatever it was, and claiming that it was hoaxed, this honey on a swaner.

It was because he had found that boot back in there, somebody had with a contraption on it to fake prints. That was it, case closed. Got the investigation left, and then, oh, boy, that was awful quick. I was quick, so somebody fix them tracks. And I know the family, because of many years ago, I went back and the mother of Dana Hallekeld,

they're great people. And there's no way to line. I spent some time down there, camped out on Pearl River and got to interview people and the biologists down there and just went through that stuff and the people are not making anything up.

And that's my opinion. But I, you know, in Harlem Ford, He's signing the way it was, the history of it there, and those tracks, and I checked into his background pretty good. An honest fellow, him and Billy Mills that he had with him that day when he seen that, and he didn't get the tracks the day that he had, they had, they were hunting and said they'd seen this thing. It wasn't until 12 or 13 years later.

63, he'd seen it, I think it was 72, that he got tracks. Why did he wait, freaking 12 years or whatever they, like it was, before he could come up with tracks? That's a good point. Yeah. We've just got to run those across those again. And I know, they're just in. So anyway, when that happened, I called him.

I felt for the family because they had already been through a lot. They told her liars and hoaxers and all that stuff. They went through a lot of roughs got there for a while in a couple of occasions. And Dana and I've always been friends with her ever since I've met her down there and that's people. Which is an interesting story. Get into some details maybe sometime. but I thought I called him and I asked him, I said

that's what he found and this not as a contractual. So I asked him if he would go on the radio and debate it. And he said, yeah. Not that's going to change anything. I just wanted to help the family. I just felt, I don't know.

But anyway, he did it. And it went for an hour. It was on a Scott Marlowe's radio show of the Bialysis in Florida. And he didn't believe any of that stuff. He was three-toed stuff. They think it's nonsense, which I can understand, but in a way, but of course, but I, anyway, so we went for now. And they said it was the best radio show they ever had.

They wanted to schedule another one. But we did, and we did two shows, radio shows. M.K. is still, I still don't see any evidence or whatever. Well, a few years after that, they let me know. he was down there and announced and he because he had to take

I think it was taking his mom in the hospital in Orleans so he had some time so he went down there and walked in the he ran across some tracks

and they were like the Harland Ford tracks that he had said earlier the years before that day was all fake now he's looking at them and there's a series of them and there it was heavy

and it had It had to be fresh because same in before, there was a rain, and there was a light rain, and there was rain sprinkled all around except the inside of these tracks that were in the clay. There was no rain in there. There was dry in the areas where it was walking. And he pursued it or whatever, and I think that's when there was a sapling or whatever. That was broke off, and it was dry and placed in the pathway. This is forbidden terror.

don't pursue, forbidden area, don't pursue it. That's when he turned around and went out. So I got that. I got him telling me about it. It's all written out. And he sent me a picture of the tractor. Wow, that is incredible. Be too quick to judge the Honey Island Swamp Monster.

Exactly. Yeah. My good friend, Alex Petacoff, just did a documentary about the Honey Island Swamp Monster. It's on YouTube. Just checking out. I'll send you a link. He's a good guy. He's a great big foot researcher.

Him and Tate Hieronymus and Jonathan Easley. The newer guys coming up, they're no kill, they're good dudes. They respect the environment. Yeah. They respect the creature. They go all over. So good dudes. Yeah.

Why wouldn't you want to shoot something like this? Yeah. Rod and something. I had maybe been around for millions of years or something. Maybe they're a lot less in population. And I don't even know what the other. are one. They only want to shoot one.

People are going to think about money and fame a lot, I guess. No, I don't want that going on. I'm really skitties about that, especially after brought a guy in that I thought it was okay. Wow. Yeah, I can understand. Ronnie and sorry, a question for you. Have you ever brought an audio recorder into that area?

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It sounded like you'd be, yeah, you'd be right up there, man. It's intense. These things weren't talked. He looks like he's got a language going on. I didn't have that. These things were just pissed. But they were loud and they were clear. Man, it was so loud.

It's just, and I know better. I know to do it. I don't have some kind of recorder on you. But I didn't care. This might sound unbelievable or stupid, but it is stupid. But I didn't care. I've never been out to prove the existence of these things. Never figured I had much chance anyway in doing that.

But I never was really out to prove it. And when things were happening, I didn't care. I didn't care about it. I never cared about the limelight or any of that. I would have been a radio shows a long time, though. I don't care. Just not out to prove anything. And now, of course, I didn't know it was going to be that intense either.

So if I had had any idea, it was going to. But you're supposed to be ready. And I've been through something like that before, so I should know better. There was no excuse not to be able to document that, but I didn't. I had two times on top of it, the major stuff. So I kicked myself in the bun. And it wasn't just for me. I realized later on that, my God, this isn't just about me.

This is about the wayne who introduced me to nobody believe me. He wanted to be able to prove this of somebody believing me. I don't give a shit. me he did. I should have been there for him. Yeah. And then I, and not only that, I get to thinking about these researchers and stuff that they dedicate their lives and a lot of, there's some dangerous situations out there. I could tell you about some of that stuff, but they, and they really, they put it there all in here. They've been in for some of them all their life, they're getting nothing like.

And I got thinking about that, and God, I let them down too. So I didn't feel very good about myself. I would say I wouldn't put yourself down. You've done some amazing things. I would say promise me next time you go out there, you'll have an audio recorder, and it'll be rolling the second you get out of the car. That's what I would say.

Yeah, I need to do that. I just got to. If I can get it back to the way it was the way when I left it, it might not get a lot. I get some whoops. I mean, say, whoops, whoop, oh, wow. They do it. Get some of that stuff.

But it won't be on the scale or what they held. when they're acting like they want to kill you. Holy shit. I've even thought about that. My God, I miss that. I feel so bad. I've entertained, but not very long. I've entertained the idea of going back and make that sound.

I get a pissing them off again. And I said, no, I just can't do that. That's why they started trusting me. And not only that, a third time might be a sense. They might get to think, you know, this fellow ain't getting the message. We don't have to get serious. That's all I'd need. That's good.

No, I ain't going to do that again. Yeah. Let's do one last question before we wrap it up, because we are going on two hours, surprisingly, because this conversation has been amazing, Ronnie. For an hour. My question is, you mentioned earlier in the interview that you were using human baby cries for call blasting.

Yeah, that was a, yeah. What is it that made you decide to use that particular sound? Oh, I didn't. That was Richard Greenwell's idea. And it was working. I've talked to a lot of other researchers. Some, too, if someone wanted to stay under the radar, I'm not going to mention. But they told me, and I believe in there, I know some guys are freaking excellent at this stuff.

And they said it doesn't work. It's called. They haven't had any luck in different areas, different places. And I believe that. They're not making stuff up to me. I've known them too long. but I think there was something special about this area that's 40 miles back in

you don't see anybody back in there it's rugged back in there where we went and he had been doing this regular role every couple of years he was doing it every year every two years but doing it and I don't think these things back in that area were I just didn't know that much about people

or stuff or wasn't familiar for some reason that area it worked where it doesn't work in other areas and this stuff it figures because this type of research really stains

it's just so unpredictable it's like nothing makes any sense changes which means it sounds less credible because where it goes but I know that for some reason it worked there

and I didn't go on his 2005 was rich Richard's last expedition there, that's when he was had melanoma and cancer. And he wasn't doing good. They were back in there. And they, now, and I want to tell you one thing about the Confirn said it was the call blasting. Sure.

I never back in there. And they had to see who was it. I think Angela. Yeah, Angelo again, the biologist, he was there. This is the trip back in there after I was with him. and he was there and Richard's son, Darwin and one of his friends

which should have been me, but I didn't want to go. I got another whole long story. I didn't get along with Darwin very well. But I missed out on the best time too. But while they were back in there, they had all the quidant. They're called lasting stuff that they had

was set up special by Darwin. He was good at doing that kind of stuff or whatever. He had worked excellent. We'd hike it and carry it a big unit. We'd take it up on the hillside or the mountain. And man, it'd last even hear from echoing for miles. It was honky just to hear that with those vocalizations. But anyway, on this trip, they got everything set up.

They got the stuff. They got 500 pounds of stuff back in there, too. and we had used horses, almost lost on them. But anyway, another story. But they got it back in there, and there was a component that wasn't there. They needed to get the call of Lester gone. And there's no way to get it.

They're on foot. It's 40 miles back. So Darwin was in good shape and his buddy. They hiked 40 miles to get a part in Orleans to get that thing going. they were gone for, about a week. That's intense.

Yeah, it was a while. It might have been five days or something, but it was quite a while. I'd have to check with it. But it was a long time. That's 80 miles. Go to town and come back. Some real interesting stuff happened on the way.

I'm not going to get into that. We could talk about this time. In fact, we should do that to be a tribute to pretty well and talk about him. Yeah. But anyway, they didn't have any call. Nothing happened at all. But as soon as they got back, and they put that in there and called back,

and they had activity that night for two weeks straight every night. And they got one of them on thermal imaging. And one of them turned and reached out in the bushes and took the new kid in his tent, pushed the tent down and felt him in the tent. That was the last thing. But Richard was dying.

And he wanted to stay. And they were saying, his son was saying, Dad, you've got to go. This isn't good. You're sick. But he had never had activity like this anywhere. Not even not there.

And he didn't want to go. He was dying. And Angelo, the biologist, he's a great fellow. Just talked to him yesterday, actually. But he, and it was always loyal to the society and Richard. And he broke his ankle trying to get him out of the canyon, Richard to help get him out and get him out of a horse. But because of

Furches that come in, I guess, as to what I don't know. I wonder. I think that yields at time or love us. Anyway, that's judgment too. In fact, I think they got him. God, it's been a while. I wrote a nice tribute to him. I'll have to send it to you sometime. Yeah, that would be nice. Thank you.

It explains all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I explains all that. The Diangelo, the biology, he broke his ankle. They had a hell of it. And there was at night getting out of there. And rugged down in the cany stuff to go through the mountains to get back to the access road then it was free but yeah that was a long time getting out there and Richard did not want to go they were having too much activity

but he went to Berkeley from there the hospital and from there they sent him home and he died at home yeah yeah I could tell you all about that up in there there's some there was some fun times there two things that happened actually but yeah great stuff but it worked back in there but it's all blasted. That's amazing. Yeah, we've got stuff to definitely have you back on in the future to chat about. No problem. But Ronnie,

thank you so much for spending a few hours of your night chatting with me. It's been so much fun. Oh, no problem. Yeah, I had a good time. I'll like you here from self-talk. Real quick, I'm going to go ahead and close this out, and then I have a few quick things for you off the air to ask you.

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