Bigfoot Society - Horrifying Dogman Encounters and Summer Camp Bigfoot Stalker | Dogman Researcher | Bryan Bowden

Episode Date: July 23, 2022

#138Bryan is the Founder and Director of NYSSO - New York State Sasquatch Organization; the Director of the North American Dogman Project - New York State Chapter; and is The North American correspondent for Outer Limits Magazine. He is the cohost of “Inside The Goblin Universe” radio program with Ronald Murphy, and host of NoBoBuMe (which stand for -Nobody But Me).In this episode Bryan shares some amazing Bigfoot and Dogman encounter stories that will blow your mind!Episode Resources:future website: www.bryanbowden.comYoutube - Bronxville Paranormal Society - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQnAg7Udwijtt8ePYTpq43wBryan's podcast Inside the Goblin Universe https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inside-the-goblin-universe/id1386537759_____________________________Join us over on Patreon! Get access to the audio from the Patreon, a whole library of extended shows, exclusive merch like a membership card and stickers, watch me interview guests weekly live on video, a Patron-only Discord and more.https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyNOTE: I'm attending my first Bigfoot expedition this summer! Please pick up a Bigfoot Society shirt from my Etsy to help fund the gear I'll need to get.https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietyContribute directly at the GoFundMe page for the expedition and get an exclusive sticker:https://www.gofundme.com/f/gear-needed-for-my-first-bigfoot-expeditionTune in every Saturday at 5 pm Central for new episodes of Bigfoot Society!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7QIG: https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Website: https://bit.ly/3jvKIm7Shop: https://etsy.me/3ptlubQiTunes: https://apple.co/3fmmhTCSpotify:Smart Passive Income PodcastWeekly interviews, strategy, and advice for building your online business the smart way.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show

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And literally for about a second and a half, they just stood there because they don't know where to go. And you tell them, panicking. I think their faces like switching. Welcome back to Bigfoot Society. This is your host, Jeremiah Byron. Every week I talk to different people in the cryptozoology field. You never know who's going to be on next week. If you'd like to sponsor the show, head on over to patreon.com

forward slash the Bigfoot Society. You get access to a ton of things there, including a close-knit cryptic community on Discord, where you can connect with like-minded cryptid researchers and enthusiasts, weekly bonus content, the ability to hang out with each week's guest after the main show, exclusive merch, and much, much more. In this week's episode, I talked to a new friend Brian Bowden, the director of the New York State chapter of the North American Dogman Project, among many other things you'll find out.

But man, do me and Brian, if you like stories about cryptid encounters, you're going to love this episode because Brian shares some personal stories about Bigfoot encounters, dog man encounters from over the years, and you are absolutely going to love this episode. So it's such a fun time talking to Brian. Thanks so much to Kenny Irish for making that connection. I hope to have Brian back on some time in the future because he's got stories upon stories to tell. But definitely enjoy this dogman. encounter focused episode of Bigfoot Society. You're going to love it. Thanks for listening. All right, Bigfoot Society. Thanks for coming back for another episode. I've got a new friend, Mr. Brian Bowden, uh, with me. Uh, so Brian, thanks so much for coming on. I mean, as, as followers know, uh, we're supposed to have Kenny Irish on tonight. I'm going to get him another time, but Kenny did me a solid and he was like, you got to have my friend Brian on because he,

knows his stuff. And I'm like, dude, send them on over. Let's check it. I'm not reading your bio, Brian. I'm going to focus on the cryptos stuff because, dude, you are all, you got stuff going on. That is incredible. So thank you so much for coming on. But I want to spend a few minutes laying out some stuff. Because here at Bigfoot Society, you know, we like to, we focus on the cryptozoology every, every week. And, you know, so Brian is the founder and director of New York State Sasquatch organization. NYSSO, the director of the North American Dogman Project, New York State Chapter. Very cool. And is the North American correspondent for Outer Limits Magazine.

He's the co-host of Inside the Goblin Universe radio program with Ronald Murphy and host of Nobo Buhmi. And forgive me. No, no, no, don't worry about it. It's fine. It's purposely done that way. Right, right, which stands for nobody but me. So, and you may have seen Brian on a variety of different TV programs. It sounds like you're all over the place.

So a lot of those stuff. Yeah, a lot of Discovery Plus. Crypted related inside the Goblin universe with Cliff Simon, the late Cliff Simon, who is a great guy. We talked about, I did the Jersey Devil portion of that. Okay. And then a lot of UFO stuff, but there is a link between the cryptons and the UFOs, but we'll discuss later. You got it. You got it. So I like to, you know, here's a question where a lot of programs might begin with, begin with this, but I think it's important to know where you came from.

So what was it, Brian, that got you into these crypted subjects like Dogman, Bigfoot, all this stuff. What drew you to it, do you think? Well, you know, it was, let's put Dogman to the side for a minute. Because growing up, I used to watch something a program called In Search of with Leonard Nimoy. Yes, yes. Okay. That's how I grew up. I love monster movies.

I love science, you know, UFOs. And I like that. That was the genre. And, you know, we always looked at, you, I was lucky enough that my mother was a school teacher. And she had the summers off. So she became a head counselor at a sleepaway camp in Connecticut. Okay. Northwestern Connecticut.

And I basically was born. They brought me up to camp. And I've been there for like decades. So, and it was great. It was a great way to get away from New York City for two months in the summer or a little bit more. And I just, you know, we always looked at the stars, you know, being in the city, the stars, the light pollution just killed the stars. Exactly. So when you get to the country and you see all these stars and you can actually see the Milky Way, you know, that portion of it.

It's just amazing. And we used to see some crazy objects and we tell stories. But, you know, for everything, I mean, I was into the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, the Bonoomal Snowman or Yeti, which is basically a big foot in winter. and then they talked about like ghost stuff and whatever but I always thought that Bigfoot was in the Pacific Northwest that's where you know Patterson Givam film you know everything took place to Pacific Northwest and I was like I want to go to the Pacific Northwest

I want to look at a big foot you know I'm not thinking anything of being in you know the East Coast or any place else and one summer in in about 19 it was I don't know if it was 77, 78, or 79. I don't remember that far back. Okay.

But I slept on the bunk bed, top bed of a bunk. And when the counselors would come back from, you know, someone would watch you in the bunk at night and then some key councils were off. So when the counselors would come back from town, you know, drink in, eating pizza or whatever, you know, you knew that they were all back because every light was shut off. Even the bathroom lights were shut off. So, you know, because they don't want to sleep in the lights on. So I'm sleeping on this this bunk bed.

Now, if my feet are over here, there's a window right here next to my feet. Yep. Yeah. And the window's about, I'm going to say maybe two and a half, three feet, maybe three feet by three foot, a glass window that slide into the bunk. And I'm pretty high up. So, and I have this smell coming, like a skunky type of smell. And I have to get up. I have to go to the bathroom.

I think I'm like, you know, maybe 10 years old, maybe. So I wake up, I smell this smell. I know the lights around so all the counts of the back. And I get up, I sit up in my bed, and I kind of look and I notice something's in my window. Whoa. So I'm like, okay, you know, there's a lot of shadow play with trees and the foam moon and whatever. And I look and the smell of skunk and that putrid, disgusting skunk and smells really strong. not unusual for camp

but there seems to be a head or a face in the window and it's kind of doing this and I look and I'm looking at it from a I'm trying to hide my physical body because my feet are exposed right by the window and it looked like a giant monkey okay

like a gorilla slash monkey and I'm like it got me on nerve so I laid back down very slowly try not to move because this thing could have easily just went right through the glass. Grab me, pulled me through it, right? So a little bit nervous.

And after about an hour, I just, my bladder couldn't take it. So I slowly creep back up. Yeah. And then I get to away from the window and I just slide down my bed. And then I literally do a dog crawl throughout the bunk. And I have to pass, I go underneath my bunk to the bunk that's right next to me, which is right by that side entrance. I'm by the side where this thing was peeking in.

There's a door there, mind you. And I'm like, I'm literally crawling from that point all the way over the length of the bunk and slowly sneaking to the bathroom. Also knowing that the windows are there and this thing can come in that way too. Try not to make any noise. And I peaked and I didn't see anything at that point. So I went to the bathroom. I slid all, you know, did the dog crawl back, whatever. So that was it.

You know, that was my experience. And it was really unnerving. And I didn't know what it was at the time. because like I said, Bigfoot's in the Pacific Northwest. That's what they tell you why they'd search it. Right. Yeah, exactly. Right.

And now I do have photograph memory. And I was talking to my buddy, my partner, Al, about his encounter in Florida and stuff. And I said, you know, I remembered this moment. So I said, you know, let me do a search. So where my camp is, there's a lake right next. So it's a reservoir. It's called Crystal Lake. now I'll tell you what's very interesting about it

the people that did that movie Friday the 13th came to my camp first no way yes they wanted to do it which would have been I would have been like if I own the property like yeah go ahead but just replace every buck oh my because but the owners were like oh it's going to be a negative they don't want the negativity I'm like there's no negativity you'd have brand new bucks it'd be you know everything would be perfect

so that's their touch but I mean it's literally but's begins my lake, my camp. There's a lake, a little woodsy area, then my camp, you know, with that has a little lake in it. So I start doing my research, and I look up Bigfoot sightings in that area. Yeah. And wouldn't, you know, the same year

I had my experience in the window, three separate people saw two bipedal cryptids hanging out right by that reservoir. Really? Yes. So it is, so I said, okay, so what I did see was legitimately a Bigfoot.

And then, you know, that's when I was, you know, I'm older now, you know, this was about 15, 20 years ago. I didn't really bother to do it. I just been doing a lot of independent stuff. And when you discover that there's Bigfoot in your area, you, you know, you take these little expeditions research investigations. And I just so happened to meet somebody who is very much into he started his own group, Al, and they started a Bronchal paranormal. We started doing investigations together, but we also do it separately. So that's how I kind of got into it. I was a little bit more into the UFO stuff because I thought that would be cool.

Like, yeah, we get abducted. We go to, you know, we can cruise to these planets and stuff. And I'm like, no. When you know about aliens, you don't. That's a no for me. Yeah, that's one no, please. Yeah, right. Right.

So first off, that's fascinating. So I grew up in Western Mass. And I can vouch for you. But Northwestern Connecticut's, people might think of Connecticut and be like, oh, is it really? And yes, it is really. Yeah. Oh, Western masks. Crazy.

So are you near like Pittsfield? My, so I, my, my, my, one of my grandparents was in the Berkshires in Great Barrington. I know. You're basically the same. Okay. But I grew up in Northfield in Franklin County. So. Okay.

So you know Route 7, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I'll just let you know that, um, the town I was in is. Winston. They used to have a guy that they called the Winston Wildman. Yes. Yes. Okay. So you've been through it. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. It's about this big. Yeah. Right. It's, it's, yeah. Yeah. So the Winston Wildman, and it's very interesting. There's been several sightings along that road into Massachusetts,

specifically Great Barrington. There used to be a coach that would ride to Pittsfield and Great Barrington, he come back down through that way. And it's, you know, there are several sightings of what they would call a wild man. It wasn't called Bigfoot back then. In most places, they didn't call him Bigfoot or Saskatch. It was a wild man. Oh, that's a wild man.

You know, you stay out of the woods. And it's basically a extremely large, bipedal, humanoid-esque entity, which is Bigfoot. We got Bigfoot and Sasquots from Indian tribes. And then later on, you know, someone said, oh, look at the big foot. You know, I mean, right.

The no brainer. The rest is history. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Rest is it. But that whole area, that corridor is heavily. It's wild.

Heavily traveled. And when, you know, what's interesting is when you find out later on, it's like, I have a buddy in Connecticut. You should probably get on two called Chris Reinhart. He does a lot of investigations out of Winston. All right. in that area. He recently discovered and found a set of prints, I think there were 14 and a half inches right and left that went on for a bit. And it's a classic thing that happens to everybody

that we've researched investigates. When you cast to carry packs, you're in the woods all day. You want to keep enough water for you to drink. And, and, but you also like, you know, you want if you come across a track and what he came across was golden yeah you want to have some kind of casting material and he he took it out that that morning or just before the um the investigation he was on you know to lighten the load a little bit so he didn't cast it yet i mean he may have cast it now but let me tell you big time uh cryptids in that area like bigfoot as well as i'll give you an example of a dog man all right go ahead yeah So the way my camp was structured, on one side of this main roadway that, that's, you know, surface road, it's a route.

I forgot that they were maybe 263. And on one side is the camp property, and they own some sides on the other side of the road. And that's where the caretaker used to live. And they have something called the canteen where at night we'd have a social. One of my best friends of the planet who I met in that camp one night were hanging out there. And this is years after I had that. I wasn't even thinking about at the time. We would go on hikes and explore all the time, but at night he decided to play, you know, around and go behind the building into the woods, you know, just, you know, just do something.

It was our free time. It's at night. We're supposed to be, you know, socializing anyhow. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. He comes out and he is deathly afraid. I mean, I know this guy, and he's scared out of his midst. He goes, don't go back there.

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it's got things it's got yellow eyes it's got claws it's a monster don't go back and he was

adamant about this thing and I'm like come on let's go. And he's like, Bobo, don't go back there. And we went back to, you know, we're not going to, we kind of believe him because he was, you can see he was unnerved.

Right, right. So, yeah, yeah. So we go back there and we don't find anything. But that's the experience. And to this day, when I question it, he says, oh, I was making it up. And I know him well enough to know that he was not. Yeah, there's something. You can see, you can probably see it in his eyes.

There's a certain panic that you have. in a moment where you're scared, you can't replicate that. You're not that good an actor. Very few can't. And so what you come to find out as a Bigfoot, as a researcher of all this stuff, cryptids and Dogman.

And I never wanted to believe Dogman was real. Thank you to my partner, but it is. Nine out of ten times, if you have Bigfoot in the area, you'll have Dogman. And there's usually something that separates them. And they kind of like, you stay on your side, We'll stay on our side.

Okay. And usually it's because there's a source, a made sauce of water, and there's a lot of type of food. So in that area specifically, there's a lot of water, fresh water. There's fish, there's turtles, there's deer. Something that's interesting, the bears have come back in, but there weren't as many when we were going to camp. Okay.

So that could be from a eight to nine foot bipedal cryptid, you know, you know, Bigfoot. And there's been many reports of Bigfoot actually having interactions with bears to, you know, territorial and ripping them to shreds. Wow. Just think about this concept for everybody that's watching, okay? Remember Michael Jackson in Bubbles, that little chimp? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Bubbles Eddie, you know? Right. Okay. So Bubbles has a little chimpanzee, like a baby chimp. Yeah. Without even thinking about it, can rip your arm out of its socket and get off your body. Oh, yeah.

And Bubbles was maybe three feet, right? Yeah, maybe. Super small. Yeah. Okay. What do you think an eight foot version of that could do? Game over. Exactly.

I mean, it's no joke when you see some of these videos. You see these big trees moving. Oh, yeah. And whatever. So that's, you know, once you start really investigating it and I investigated when I started getting older, when I had a car, you know, don't get me wrong. I was into very much the women around there, but it's also like, hey, what are we doing today?

Let's do this. And we did a day-night investigation. Fast forward when I first met my buddy Al. And we did an investigation once at a place called Lechworth Village. Okay. It's up in Thales, New York. It's 29,000 square acres of a hospital that they would put the insane, bastard children and, you know, undesirable, unwanted.

Wow. Now, what's interesting about this hospital is there was a lot of doctors there that would experiment on individuals, no matter if it was a baby or an adult. And they did polio experiments there as well. I think it was polio or TV, one of the two. Okay. So the way they had a candidate that worked, you know, a vaccination or whatever worked, is if you didn't die, well, we're on to something, right? Okay. So, yeah.

So separate from where this facility is, was this, this cemetery. And in the cemetery, that's where they used to, you know, put all the bodies. And they dumped hundreds of bodies there from literally, you know, one day old to 90, whatever years old. These are all the ones that have died or they experimented on or whatever. So it was an unknown graves for a while. some of the families that had relatives there they banded together and they put up a plaque.

So when you walk into this place, it's separate from the hospital. You actually have to drive to it in a different area. There's a lot of land between it. And the way it's situated, it's situated on a back road. You know, that's paved. There's like maybe three houses.

And you have to park your car. You'll walk through this path about a quarter of a mile. And then it opens up to this. what looks like a little bit of a mound, and the path goes to the right and the left. And in the center is a plaque that's probably, I'm going to say about four and a half feet high

by four and a half, five feet wide. And on it, it lists all the people there. So we were going on an investigation there. Now, the way this was situated, we're doing a day-night thing. We'd like to do day and night if we can, because things do change when the outside world calms down a bit.

Okay. you kind of pick up a little bit more. You're, you know, it's a little bit more focused at, you know, at nighttime. So what was interesting is,

if you picture where you're, if I'm standing at the cemetery, there's a tree there, there's a mound, there's no grave markers. It's just a plaque. All right. And the road goes,

you know, there's a little pathway to the right around the mound and to the left. And to the left of us is a clear cut that they use for, um, high tension wires. Right. So we started doing a survey first.

We walked in, we went in there, and we started walking around a bit. And we walked past the cemetery, walked up this path. Like, wow, this is a cool place. I mean, I would have been hanging out there as a kid in this area, drinking beers and doing whatever. Right, right, right. You know, and especially if I had a four-wheel drive, it would be, you know, like, whatever. So it's very squatchy. So you have water nearby.

You got swampy. Okay. You have the tension wires there. But I'm thinking, you know, more along the lines of ghost. I'm in the ghost hunting mode because we're there to do the investors. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah. So, and in the background, you can hear some dogs barking.

And there was this one really big bark that we heard throughout the day. And my buddy's like, dude, you hear that dog? Like, yeah, it sounds like a really big one. It sounds like, you know, like the mass stuff or something like that. Okay. So we walk and we're like, you know, we felt we were missing something. So, you know, just trying to figure it out. So we go back and we start doing our investigation.

He goes one way on the cemetery and I go to the other. And the cemetery is, I mean, for all intents and purposes, maybe like a thousand square feet. You know, it's like a circle or a rotunda. Sure. So I'm doing my stuff. He's doing this stuff. We hear the dog barks and he's being drawn to a certain path

and I'm just kind of hanging out. And we just, it just, there's something weird about it. We felt like there's something else going on. There should be other things that were present, given the type of location, what we were seeing. We noticed things more than other people, tree markers, breaks and stuff. So we go to this one point and we said, you know, let's go to this one point and see where this meter, the EMF meter, is reading.

And for the most part, being next to high-intention wires, It wasn't that bad Very surprised So we hear these dogs barking and we're sitting there and then I you know I sit down for a minute to look up then I look up I see in the tree Probably about I'm six for one mind you okay Maybe 10 feet up there's a break a fresh break really right in the tree and I'm like yo take a look He's like oh that's unusual yeah like what came through here that's

It's going to break that. Right. Right. So now I'm like, okay, what's going on? So he goes, should I do a, you know, should I do a tree knock or a call? I said, you know what? Let's try with a tree knock. So he finds a piece of wood.

It's bad. Finds another piece of wood. The dogs are barking. And the minute he hits that tree, boom. The dogs shut up. Oh, yeah. There's silence there. Totally.

So we're like, okay. That's very interesting. They know. They know. definitely know. Yeah. And we're, him and I are picked, we pick up on each other. It's like, we know that that's, that was one tree not. Okay. So we, we try to do a call.

It doesn't work. We play around the Tibetan singing bowl to try to ramp up the energy and our meter. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. We love Tibetan team singing. Okay. Yeah, yeah. For some reason, the vibration, the frequency coming out of them, depending on which ones you're using, I usually use the heart chakra. And I forgot what, what note that is right off the bat. I apologize. I haven't used it in a while. My wife and daughter, stop. Don't use that. I'm like, you know, yeah. So I have to be dad too. And I was, um, our, our EMF meter starts to go a little

bit wacky. So I said, okay. So we started doing like a call and response type of thing. I'm like, can you, you know, are you, are you, if you're actually responding to us, no, you're here, make this go up to 90. And boom, goes up to 90. And boom, goes up to 90. Okay, great. Wow. No problem. Like, so we start playing around it. So now we're getting into this. It's paranormal, ghosty,

but there's a cryptic type of marker here that I'm liking. And he starts going, do you hear that barking? You know, getting this feeling, you know, when he gets these certain feelings, he goes off on his own, and we regroup later on. So as we come back, this isn't that much time we've been there. We've been there maybe an hour. We see these two kids.

on a four wheel drive type of thing. Okay. You know, I forgot what they're called. They come flying in here and they come flying and looking and they're talking. You know, yeah, we're looking for them now. We know they walked in here. We're looking for them. So we're figuring like, okay, what's this?

So they come in there and they go along the path. They miss us because we're actually at this point. We decided to sit behind the marker where they give you the list of the people who are buried there. so nothing can come over our backs. So it's kind of like a good point to be. So we've got our backs cover and we can see out this way. And they're looking for us. It's clear that they're looking for us.

So when they come back, we like, should we say hello to them? Like, okay. You know, maybe it's private property. We'll just want to kind of get an idea. But also we like to interview locals because we want to have their experience. Great idea. We'll be right back. Hey, it's Pat Flynn here, host of the award-winning podcast, the Smart Passive Income Podcast,

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Whoa. Like on a purpose. It's like they went in, they came out, right? Yeah. And we noticed that. We're like, wow, that's odd. They were pretty quick. They would look like they were looking or they couldn't get out of here fast enough.

And he's like, yeah. So mental note back in the head, hit my buddy's head. We continue on with our investigation. And then we decide to go away for a little bit to get some to eat early dinner, you know, kind of take a break. Take a break. We come back. It's still a little bit light out. And we start investigating the front end of this area.

And we hear this, I mean, like, I even commented like, wow, that dog's pretty big. That dog sounds pissed. Like, it's really deep. You can kind of feel it. So we walk back the path where we came in and there's a cutoff to the right. We start walking down the cutoff. And it's the same area to the right of us that my buddy Al was being drawn to. And we start walking.

He starts looking. And as we walk in, we see this structure. There is a huge tree structure. Now, Bigfoot usually leans trees. They do TPs. They do stars. Sure. There's certain things here.

Okay. So this was easily a three foot and circumference tree that was ripped from the ground with its roots, flipped upside down. So the roots are up there. And attached, it was stand. It was like perfectly straight here. And you had other trees ripped out with the roots like this on top of it. So it looked like a giant umbrella. Weird.

that is very dogman. I said, wow. I said, you know, and it's really funny when you're, when on your focus on one thing, sometimes you miss the obvious signs. Right. And that really clicked. I said, this, this is very, to myself, like, this is very dogman-esque. Okay.

But I'm like, we're really too close to the city for a dogman. I'm like, that's my opinion. Like, what would it be doing here? And I start walking a little bit further in the woods because we hear some sounds coming from that direction. my buddy Al's going Stop I got this feeling they're trying to draw

or someplace This doesn't feel right Come back And we've learned To trust each other's instincts That So I come back And we're not being

We're not We don't continue down that path To investigate What those sounds are So we come back And we're like Look let's stay together fine Now I'm trying to give you set this up

So where the entrance to this cemetery is Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Off this like two-lane road, there's a little area to the, when you pull up to it, there's a little area to the left, it's gravel that you would park your car. You probably could fit three to four cars there. And then if you go up a quarter mile more, on the right-hand side, it looked like a nature trail. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there.

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patrocino for GSK and there's one of those light that's

like incandescent light okay it's yellowish so when we came back we parked up there under

the light so people could see that oh someone's probably on the trail

you know we don't want to get in trouble we don't we're not here to

get arrested so no problem so we continue with our our cemetery investigation

and my buddy starts getting really, really acting funny. Like he has this weird look on his face. Okay. He has issues with his technology. Yeah. I'm like, are you okay? He's like, yeah, I'm fine.

Why? I'm like, now you don't seem right. Right. And it's getting cooler and colder. And you hear this like roo, like this wolfish type of, right? Oh, man. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And at one point, just through our evidence, I heard it. And I said, did you hear, did you hear that? Did you hear a, you know, a growl? or barking and my buddy on the audio says nope and the next thing you hear like right next it's like that right no I didn't hear it at that time okay I just noticed I heard of like something that sounds like a growl it's getting colder full moon and all of a sudden we're sitting there this is probably about three four hours I have it's getting cooler I have to use the restroom yep but I'm not going to urinate anywhere near a cemetery that's very disrespectful

Yeah, not a smart idea. Right. I get it. I get it, yeah. So I said, you know what? I'm going to, I said to myself, hold on when we get to the car, when we go and I'll pee over the apartment. And I don't know if you ever heard of Steve Stockman. He's another great writer.

He's on the list to talk to. He's a great dude. He's a buddy of mine. He loves this story because you'll hear. Okay. So it's funny where we're staying. You can see the moon kind of breaking through the full moon. Mind you, we're at a cemetery.

And my hand to God, this white mist starts rolling in. And it's like your classic, if you ever seen those old werewolf. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, there's like this white fog coming in. And I'm like, and I'm like, dude, are you seeing this shit? And he's like, yeah, I'm seeing it. They're like, holy crap. So we stayed there a little bit longer.

And he's kind of acting where I said, look, he's getting a little bit chilled. I said, you know, we've been here long enough. Let's, let's just go back to the car. You know, I got to go to the bathroom. Let's go back. Right, right. And we agree. So we pack our stuff up.

Actually, before that happens, these guys come back in. And we said, when they come back in, we're going to ask them about their experiences again. Oh, yeah. So these guys notice us when we came back in. And again, they come in like bats out of hell and they're looking for us. And we're like, you know, Kay, can we ask you questions about, you know, strange stuff here? No. And like we're out of here.

And then they go. Again, very strange. It's like they know something we don't. Exactly. Oh, they know a lot more. They're not going to tell. because no one believes you when you tell these things. But so we walk back out, we have our little lambs on,

and we start walking to the car. And as we're walking to the car, I'm on his passenger side of this. My buddy's vehicle, it's a Jeep, little Jeep. Okay. Jeep Liberty. So I figured, okay, when we get to the car, just before I get in, I'll pee on the side.

Now, where his car is, I'm standing on a, on a, I would be standing on a three foot grade. Okay. As we're walking, we see eyeshine. Now, I'm thinking here. And as we're getting there, it's getting a little bit more amberish, and it's getting bigger, and it's right by the car. And I'm like, what the hell is that? We're looking.

We're looking. Now, I don't have any firearms. I don't. I'm living in New York City. It's impossible to get, you know. Yeah, I know. Yeah. So what we do is on investigations, we carry machetes.

So I have one here. Oh, interesting. One here and one on my side, plus a couple folding nights. Wow. We have bear. We have big cat. Yeah. Makes sense.

Makes sense. I don't really want to kill anything, but you got to protect yourself, right? I got it, yeah. So I got the machete here, and I got it on the side, whatever. Wow. My backpack.

We get to the car, and I got Pete. I'm going to be brutally on it. So as we get there, we see this thing sitting there. We're like, is it a deer? Like, no, it's not a deer. And it's just kind of in the shadows. You can see it shape.

It's got this shape of a head. It has these, like a marmaduke type of ears, like big ears pointed. And it looks like a snout. and their yellow eyes and it's sitting there on a tunch. Oh, man. Doesn't move, doesn't blink, doesn't do anything. Now, where I am, I am no more than 15 feet to 20 feet from it.

I've had dogs my entire life. I know all about dogs. So I got to pee. So my buddy Al's put, you know, we're talking about like, see, how come it's not moving? Maybe it's a dog, it was too big. And then it hits me that I'm six foot one. I'm standing on a three foot grade.

that makes me nine feet one inches. This thing sitting down on its hunch, its snout was about here to my note. Oh, my goodness. So that means that this thing sitting is over eight feet tall. So I start peeing in front of it. And my buddy's like, dude, get in the car.

We can do this late. I'm like, no, dude, I got to go. And I'm peeing in front of it. And I put my bag in the car, whatever, and I'm peeing. And it's just sitting there. And it's like I'm going. It was kind of like an Austin Powers type of P. I got to be honest.

Oh, yeah. Like evacuation complete. Yeah. Yeah. It was just kept going. Now we're dating ourselves. Yeah, yeah. Well, we date ourselves all we want.

And my buddy's like, get in the car, bro. Get in the car. I'm like, dude, I'm not finished. Just get the car. I'm fucking leave you here. And I'm like, dude, I'm not finished. I'm looking at them in the car. And then I look back and we notice this thing.

And what it does is it just slowly goes down, lies down, one fluid motion. and then disappears. Now at that minute, when stuff's about to get real for me and when I'm going to have an experience or something's going to happen, I get the goose pimples.

Yep, yep. Hard as a rock. And I'm like, oh shit, time to go. I threw my stuff in there and I got in the car and we peeled off. And that was it. That was our experience. But I was no more than 50 to 20 feet from this.

And it was definitely, I know enough about dogs. There's no dog in the planet that sitting down is eight feet tall. Yeah. And at that moment, we started discussing it. I kept looking out at the back, but nothing came out. And here's the interesting part. If we're talking about dog man as a canine or, you know, bipedal, whatever, canine base cryptic,

when you urinate, when a dog urinates in front of another dog, it marks its territory. it says to that dog I'm the boss I'm the alpha that may have saved you dude right you never know so we're thinking about this and I was talking this my buddy Al I'm like like he goes

dude don't ever do that again I'm gonna leave you I'm like you're not going to leave me you love me too much and you're going to have to explain that crap to my wife it's not going to happen so but it was very it was flying up to that point where he disappeared it was very unnerving you know type of thing so but I just always thought

like this this dogman was like holy crap this guy's crazy yeah being in front of me i just think of me going back to the you know to the to the to the crew at the pound or the dogman pound going so there he was he's standing there and he's being in front of me who did you think he is yeah he's that's that's wild dude that's one of the wildest stories i've ever heard on this podcast outside of jody cook i'm not even kidding i know jody but yeah i know it's honest truth And Steve Stockton loves that. He goes, I've gotten so much mild out of it. But it's a truth.

It's just like, but the concept is now from that point, I've had, I've been in situations where there were dogmen present, but I haven't interacted with them. And I'm wondering, it seems like with this cryptid, which I didn't want to believe to begin with, I was like, okay, come on, werewolves, you know, there are 100% legitimate and real. They are very horrific. according to Vic Kundif basically and through the research there's seven variants

I don't know when my camera's catching seven variants right whatever there you go and you know you have the soldier ones that look like something out of Van Helsing you know like these monsters that like could rip you up they are very

menacing looking there's nothing nice about this cryptic no not at all zero okay up until like there's a don't Dogman type three, which is kind of like a hybrid. Right.

So what I did before the show, because I've never been on the show, and I thank you very much to have me on your show. Oh, you're welcome, yeah. I feel so highbrow that we're talking dogman and Bigfoot on the, big foot society. Yeah, exactly. It's like, really? They don't want me here.

I'm not a society type. But it's an interesting name for a pipe. I think it's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I think it's fantastic. Yeah, thank you. But something. very interesting is there's a dogman type three.

And one of them is kind of like it looks a little bit like a bigfoot, but it also looks like a dog, like has that canine type of lichen or anubis look to it. But it's not as menacing. And my theory, what I've postulated, I'm postulated. That's a key word, people. There you go. I think that there's a point in time and I have some other theories on this where Bigfoot and dogman kind of do a west side story.

Yeah, I got you. And they may. And I think they have the ability to connect with each other. And maybe it's, maybe it's the, the way I look at it is maybe it's the weaker link for both ends of it. The runts of the litter. Okay. Sounds really weird and impersonal. And they kind of just find each other and they propagate.

And they'll produce pups as well as, you know, Bigfoot or Dogman type threes. we did another investigation and we did it up in upstate New York Okay very close I'll just say it's It's near 5522-ish area If you know that That's what 44

And roof 40 okay okay I know where like speculator is You're talking like Adirondex No I'm talking actually where you're your your grandparents there Oh okay yeah yeah got there's a there's a there's a place in the four corners there where Massachusetts, New York, and Connecticut meet is a place called Bishbash Falls. Dude, I've been to Bishbash.

Yeah. It's wild. I love that place. My father used to take me there all the time when I was a little kid. Don't go in the water. Dude. I love that place. I always felt it was weird, too.

But he's not into weird stuff. So he never told me weird stories. He's known. He probably has seen some things or knows some things through, you know, years and years of X, Y, and D. Yeah. But, oh, that's Rob. That's folklore.

But I'll tell you when you start investigating these things, it's not folklore. So this is kind of close there, but more on the New York side. Okay. I'm being very vague for reasons because I want to protect certain areas. Okay. So this is a big lake. And it was really once used for by United Nuclear Corporation to do, they were working with weapons grade uranium. Oh, man.

To develop an engine. what kind of engine we don't know. But they had an accident there, and it went into the lake, and the military eventually cleaned it up. But it's an area throughout time from indigenous people has high strangeness in the area.

Really? Lots of high strangeness. Cryptids, gnomes, you know, elemental type of creatures, everything, even big foot, right? Yeah. So we decide, my buddy decides, we're doing a day-night investigation.

Halloween. full moon meteor shower so we said okay cool we'll go to go to the lake now the park closes at sunset but the Appalachian Trail kind of skirts the lake a little bit right yeah yeah so you can be on the Appalachian Trail all you want but when you get to a federal park they close they close yeah okay and they're pretty good about it so we can't park in their parking lot so we park a half a a mile away in a certain area and we hoof it and we walk that a half a mile and then once you get to the park it's probably about three quarters of a mile to get to the tip of the lake and when you get to the tip of it's like there's still radiation poisoning in there there's radioactive waste right so you can

either take a path to the right of the lake or to the left okay if you go to the right of the lake it's a go trail, there's no way you're going to make it. I mean, there's rocks, you're going to die. Literally, it's not for the faint of heart. No one really does it because it's just too complex. So you go to the right. Now, as you go to the right, you kind of meet up with the Appalachian

Trail. And then at certain spots it's like, it's not like it's a place where you can park your rear and start a campfire. They don't want that. Yeah, but it's a little bit open of an area there. And And then, you know, it's a nice spot. Now, my buddy went there previously because he's been there before.

He's had interactions with what he calls a bipedal cryptid, Bigfoot. And he's brought people there and he's heard the monkey barking stuff. So I'm excited. I'm like, cool, let's go. Let's do this, right? So we walk in and we walk this one spot. We said, okay, at that spot, there's a rock formation to the left of us. It's pretty high up.

It's impossible really to get in there, the where it's located, because it's just, it's really intense. There's no, like, even if you try to circle back around it, it would take you hours to get this one spot. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. And on top of it is a whole, it looks, it's like a Karen. So it's like a piling of rocks.

Yep, I got you. I got you. Right. Yeah. So I find it very weird, but knowing a little bit about the Inuit Indians from the north, they have something called a nookishuk. And that's what they do is they build these rock. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there.

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family, the importance of the job, and that the 99% of the people of more of 50 have the virus that causes the Culebrilla.

Although not all the people in risk the they're going I'm the upion that upos

and it and it's even the things are all the simple, not learn about the

Culebrilla to the way to the doctor or pharmaceutical, patrocineated for GSK. Totems that look like humans, and they're kind of like with arms out, legs. And they put that up purposely to ward off the evil and say, nope, there's something here, don't come here.

So it's like, okay, this is weird. We go a little bit further, and by the time we get to the location he wants to start at, because there are two of these, he found two, three quartz balls, like quartz rock that was like chipped away. round. Not smooth, but rounded. Not natural. That's at the other end of the lake. So at the top point of the lake, it's about two miles up. Oh my goodness. Okay.

So he says, we're going to make our stand here. That's what we're going to start. And then we'll slowly come back to this area. We'll do another investigation here. And then, you know, that's what the plan was. So we go there. And there's three of us. There's me, my buddy Al and a friend of ours named Bill. Bill had a YouTube program and he videotaped. So we, Al kind of wanted him to go there. he wanted to go, but Al wanted a little, you know, videotaping accent. Right, right, right. I tried to live stream through Twitter.

Yeah. But the cell signals were, so I was trying to do live streaming, trying to, you know, not do live streaming. So when we got this one location, the way we set it up, if you're looking at us, I'm all the way to the right, about 10 feet to my right is Al, and then about 10 feet to him, he's behind a bigger set of rock. And then to 10 feet to his right is Bill standing, well,

sitting in an area that's a little bit near a mini rock wall, one of those rock walls you find in the woods. So we set our stuff up. We don't start a fire because we don't have any problems with any fire. We're not really supposed to be there. And we start doing investigation. Now is listening through paliparabolic microphone. Exactly.

And you hear tree knocks every once in a while. Oh, wow. Did you hear that tree not? I'm like, yeah, yeah, I got that. But basically Bill's videotaping for himself, you know, narrowing whatever he's doing there. I'm doing my own investigation. I have all my meters out, you know, checking out EMF meters. I got Fleer.

I've got, you know, full spectrum cameras, whatever, taking pictures. And Al's doing his own thing. And he discovers a certain point when he used the parabolic mic, as he points it up. He gets this like weird noise. It's almost like an SOS or Morse code. And I'm like, I'm looking at it. And he's like, what the hell is that? And I said, well, it could be one of the things.

It could be a microwave transmitter, but the military and U.S. government used in case of a nuclear, you know, a bomb. Okay. Which they said they're shut off, but I think they still use them now. Yeah. It could be radiation from the lake because this tree, if you go back to when this tree was, it would be a lot lower. So it's roughly about the height where through the growth process.

or it's freaking aliens. Right? So there's your three choices there. And all the while when we were there, I kept hearing rock knocked, boom, boom, across the lake. Yes, yes. And I kept hearing tree knocks.

So I'm like, okay, this is very interesting. And in the distance, you know, being in the woods, you can hear a lot further away, but in the distance from us, we kept hearing dogs barking. And as the night started to get darker, and the sun started setting, this and we we started playing again with the Tibetan singing bulls ramping it up okay okay um we did some experiments

he has a rose quartz crystal head skull I have a clear crystal head skull his name's scully um it's kind of cool so we were doing you know hitting it with EMF you know meters we're hitting it with temperature gauges nothing was rating anything off of these rocks there was no anomalies but once we started doing the Tibetan singing bowls, this pressure started building as it was getting darker and we were there. Oh, man. And it's kind of, if you, to explain the pressure, the best way you can explain it is, if you've ever been, well, in the summer someplace, and you kind of smell a rain coming and gets a little bit pressurized. Yep. It was like, but that on crack, it was like thousand times worse. Wow. You kind of just felt uncomfortable. Okay. So we said, you know, let's call us like you in Arkansas.

So we call her up. And she gets on the phone and she's, you all jumble, you can't hear a word from her. Like, are you okay? It's very strange. There's a lot of energy. It's very strange. And eventually we have to cut her off.

Okay. And at that point, we're hearing louder wood knocks from where we are. So we're at the top of this lake. I'm going to use this. We're up here. And to the right of us, there's a little bit of water here. Okay. There are wood knocks coming from that direction.

and it's getting more and more intensive. You can feel it like you want to be like something's going to go on. Something's happening. And at one point we kept hearing footfall. But it felt it was it was really weird. It was it was like heavy footfall. And again, the way I best can describe it is I've been to some agriculture fairs like for you would be the Goshen Fair or the Big E. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And when you have a team of horses, walking or if you ever been to an outdoor circus you can feel when the elephants move oh yeah you feel like what was that like that's the elephant movie that's what it felt like i'm like whatever this thing is it's big we heard breaks here and there but it's very slow and um and and we're all doing our own thing and the next thing you know it's it's it's dark it's pitch black now me being from new york I got to understand. So is my buddy Al.

And so is actually Bill. I'm always looking for like, okay, if something happens now, where am I going to go? Right, right. Well, I'm not jumping in nuclear wasted water. No. I don't climb trees that good. I can't go to the left of me, which is the go trail. It's pitch black.

So I'm going to have to make a book. I would have to go to the right or stand my ground. Basically, I have to stand my ground. Something happens. Okay. And we're hearing these ladder woodnocks and whatever. And at one point, again, we're just sitting there. And my buddy Al goes, it sounds like, you know, people are here.

I'm like, it's not people. And the next thing you know, you hear something running in Bill's direction from behind him. And he gets up running. So I get up and we form a pyramid. Yeah. Al, I'm to Al's right. So we're like that pyramid thing. and Bill starts taking off.

Now, if he didn't stop, he would have killed himself. He would have poked his eye out. He would have went into the, it would have been really bad. Yeah. So I'm ready. And I've got my machete three quarters drawn. And I'm like, okay, let's go. And I'm thinking it's either bear, you know, possibly or a big cat.

Yeah. I'll think it also a big cat. But this is really, really big. And Bill is just panicked. So I'll go stand your ground, Bill, stand your ground. So Bill is, you. useless at this point. Love you, Bill, but you were useless. So it's just me and Al. And then we turn on this flashlight. The Bill had like a 3 million or 6 million watt flashlight. We look

in that direction. There's nothing there. It's not a fucking thing. We use full spectrum camera, nothing. We run over to the area and there's nothing. It would literally sound it was right next to us. So like, okay, this is really, really strange. So we kind of settle back down again. Al's using the parabolic mic And at this point We hear the tree knocks again And then we hear him again And the next thing you know

My buddy goes, I think there are people here And you hear whoop Whoop And then the third whoop Is at the other end of the lake two miles away And he goes, I think that's people I'm like, are you out of your fucking mind? Yeah, that's not people

Yeah, it's not And you can feel this thing reverberating in your chest. I got to be honest with you. I do investigate this stuff. I'm a glutton for punishment, as they say. It was a depends moment. You're just like, you know, it was just,

and you go, what was that? I'm like, dude, that was right here. And where it came from was right behind us. Wow. We're at between Al and I on this little ledge of the, of the area. We run up to that area, full lights blazing right after that. there's nothing we don't hear a tree knock we don't hear anything else after that point and i'm thinking like okay i got it now and in my head i've already had this judgment this is a big foot

and no freaking doubt about it and when that tree knock happened they were two really close together he he or she this big foot said whoop whoop whoop there are three of them take the long way home yeah do you understand what I'm saying yeah it was an advanced scout and we did not move from that point we didn't move we stood our grounds oh man so after that a few minutes later I think it got pissed off and the next thing you hear come at you hear something coming from the trees behind me like breaking branches and then I hear a thud right behind me boom and I'm sitting one of those like Coleman type of chairs you know like yeah yep yep and a heel a roll roll hits my chair throws me out of my chair forward whoa and i look and there's this you know i'm gonna say it's a boulder it's a bigger rock than i can't i mean it's it's

okay a couple hundred pounds man and i was just like holy crap this thing wanted to kill me i would have dead yeah so mind you again we're taking pictures we're you know we have fleer we have uh all these different types of cameras i use a special camera on olympus a for really for underwater photography but i use it on investigations because when you're they have an algorithm in there where you capture the scene but it helps to add light to the photo where it'll you know so it's it's kind of like a dark camera something with very little lux but without any manipulation of the actual image that's why i liked it okay that's cool so i and it records video okay cool so after a while once that final blow with that rock house that

happened. That pressure we felt disappeared. It was like an elephant came off my chest. I'm like, holy crap. So we're breathing and I said, you know what? We've been here to let's, you know, and Al goes, yeah, let's move to the next destination. So this is probably about, um, I'm going to say nine-ish, nine o'clock, something like that, whatever. So we start walking, put her head, lamps on, get our gears. And I'm, I'm packing my stuff up. And I have, a little backpack and I put the camera in the bag and I said nope Brian don't be that guy that is the one that has the camera in the bag yeah said I put it in my breast pocket okay so we start walking there's three of us now it's a beautiful night full full moon great stars you know the country

and we're at a point in the lake where we're at the top of that point of the lake where you can see out and I can see from where I was I'm in the north so if I'm in the north the west is to my right east is to my left and the south is straight ahead and as we're walking i see this orange like object it looks like an incandescent light and i'm thinking oh it's helicopter and we're walking and we all stop and it's going from west to east and it starts flying right and i say what is that and i point to it and then it goes it stops when i say that and it comes right towards us what So my brain is like, ooh, this is getting really interesting. So at this point, this thing starts flying to us.

It's hovering maybe 20 feet above us. You kind of can't see it. It's kind of like a, I'm going to say like an eye shape, like the shape of an eyeball, like an almond. I got you. And it's just in the distance where you kind of can see it's like black, like gunmetal black, but you can't really see anything. and we're kind of, you know, hang, it's Al, myself, and Bill. And Al is praying at this point because he doesn't want any of us to get up tocted. Like, oh, please don't let him get up to him.

I don't want the responsibility. At this point, I've had my camera out and a videotaping. So I said, I see it. I see it. It's right there. And this video, if you want, Bronsville Paranormal Society, YouTube, you'll see the orange video. Awesome. And listen with headphones.

because it's important. And you hear this little sound that's going on. You hear like a motorish sound of like a musical sound. Weird. And right. So Al says, and you hear him in the video, time check.

And I say 915. Okay. From where we are with this UFO, to get to the next location is five minutes, no more than that. And you hear Bill after a while. He sounds like a zombie. It's just looking at us.

Something like that. I forgot what it is. Oh, man. And then the next one. next thing you know it beams now light down on us so we shut our head lamps up beams the light on us and then it's over and we go well okay let's walk to the next location so we walk to this next location that's the open area I talked about in the beginning where you got to yep yep so we're hanging out there we set up the the chairs I'm setting my stuff up I jerry rigged bill's camera so he has a side

monitor you can look at it and he has an SD card in it and our psychic said we're we're going to see these like gnomish things that are there. And I start seeing things in the woods from gnomes to taller beings that are there just out of the eye. And these gnomes are moving back and forth. I said, do you see those things moving back and forth from tree to tree? And Bill and now looking at this thing and goes, oh, my God, I can't believe we're, you know, we're videotaping this. So they started, you know, they were videotaping these things go back and forth. And then I'm like, oh, this is, this is incredible.

Stay tuned for more Bigfoot Society. We'll be right back after these messages. And at one point, Al sees an orb over the water. And he says, Brian, you take your laser. I think I had a green laser. He had a red laser. When I tell you three, we'll hit it. Let's see what we get a reaction.

Yeah. And we do that. And the thing this disappears. Whoa. And we're like, dude, this is great. We got this video. Let's go look at it again, right? Yeah.

So we try to look at it again. And we see it. You can see when you hit record, you see it the countdown clock. And we're recording it. Try to use it. Card won't work. Oh, my goodness. There's a kidd me.

And I'm like, there's no way. This is an SD card. So it's like, there's no mechanics in it. It should have been recording. So Al's like, okay, you know what? Let's give Cindy a call again. Time check. And mind you, this has been like no more than 10, 20 minutes.

You know, nothing more than that. In total, from traveling over to that area. and I go 10 to 12. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos. Either way, just say to yourself,

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and that the 99% of the people of more of 50 now have the virus that causes the Culebrilla. Although not all the persons in risk, the resultriarer, I see the eruption dolorousa with ampollosos, during the years, Being saying that even the more simple are all a

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and I look at them like, 10 to 12. Like, what the hell is that? Like, oh, we gotta give

Cindy a call. So we start giving her, we call her up, right? Now she's an hour behind. She's central, right? Arkansas.

And she's like, what the hell's going on with you guys? I'm like, well, you sound better, Cindy. And as we're talking, we hear what sounds like bills away from us in the woods videotaping. Okay. And we hear what sounds like a family out in the woods at 12 midnight on Halloween.

Like it's like they're going for walking the park. So we hang up on Cindy and we say, listen, put your lights on because we don't want to freak these people out. They come around the woods. So we all put our lights on, you know, we're three guys with machetes. You know, don't freak me out, right? That's true. Three guys in machetes.

Yeah. So we're waiting and we're waiting and waiting and nothing comes. So we walk over there. We look, there's nobody there. Not a soul. Whoa. We don't hear him anymore. We get Cindy back on the phone. I was like, lucky. We heard these people and like she goes, no, those people aren't there. They'll be there tomorrow. They'll be there tomorrow. They'll be there tomorrow. They'll be there. They'll be there. They'll be there. We said, we'll be there tomorrow. I said, yeah, we saw these different beings, which is elementos, which she said, we would. I said, I told you. And after a few minutes, about 12 o'clock, you know, we're on the phone with a maybe five minutes. We decide, you know, it's been a long night. Let's pack a bull go. And we walk and we're walking out of this place. And not one of us is discussing anything that took place between the bipedal crypted, the UFO incident, the missing time, and time space trip. And normally we go to an investigation afterwards.

You know, we will go to a diner and talk about these different things. And we didn't. So long story short Everybody went their separate ways and I'm driving back to the city like kind of scanning the skies Right the next day I wake up and I have this awful metallic taste of my mouth and flam and I You know I breathe it up and I spit out and I look my tongue is blue It looks like I ate a smurf. Okay, so I call my buddy and I'm like out You have something weird going on with you or anything because I told him about the

The metallic taste it looks like I ate a smurf. He goes so what about Bill? He goes, well, Al says, I feel like there's something hard on my lip. I kind of got a headache, and I have like a little bump in my head. I said, go call Bill and then get back to me and let's find out. So at that point, my wife comes in with my two kids from the Sunday school, and they go, Daddy, and I have no shirt on. They go, what happened to you? I'm like, what are you talking about? What happened to those bruises?

I have two bruises, one over here, and like one of my body. I'm like, I never hit anything. Whoa. So Al comes back on. I said, dude, I got bruises on my body. What the hell's going on? He goes, Bill woke up screaming like bloody murder in the middle of the night. He scared the hell out of his mother. So that was it for that expedition.

We made agreement that if we were going to get redressed, we'd do it together. But I have a lot of people in the investigation business. And one of my friends, Derek Tyler, he who saw the video of the UFO, he says, I said, Derek, well, what do you think it is? He goes, I said, you're being downloaded. So basically we were being abducted. I said, well, we're thinking about regress. He's like, don't.

You sleep well? I said, yeah, I sleep all right. I mean, it's hard for me to go to sleep, but there's no, do you have nightmares? No, don't regress. You'll never be able to go back. Whoa, wild. So I said, okay, cool. Fast forward.

That was October. We go to the summer of that the next year. We decide to go back to the area. We're all being drawn to it. And as we're there, we're drawn to it, bills there, and whatever. whatever, and we're walking to where we were, and there's no way in hell this thing can be over there, you know, move through these woods, you know, from point A to point B when it went whoop, whoop, and then no way. So we walk a little bit further into a swampy area and Bill's videotaping, and Al gets a higher perspective, and I see it right up to that now goes, oh, my God, look, we find a den. So Bill starts trying to go get closer there. He steps in, he almost, we almost lose him in the swamp, you know, the mud.

takes a video, he goes back home later that night, and I'm like, this is cool. He's watching the video. His mom goes, what are those monkeys doing there? They're like, what? So I see the video. So if you're in Patreon and you're a Patreon member of Bigfoot Society, you're lucky.

You are going to see these pictures. And these come from the lighter ones are the den that we found where you will see a dog man in it. You will see something that's very grotesque that looks like, The green goblin on acid, it's huge. What looks like a pup growling and clearly a werewolf type, I mean a wolf fan type of, you know, animal creature. And this was what was in the den and we were able to blow that up.

Dude. If you go to the Bronxville paranormal society and you look at the nuclear lake investigation, they'll see the images. I was looking at it so many different times. I mean, I've seen it on screens the size of my phone all the way up to an 85 inch TV. And I missed it. It's why you don't edit your own homework or papers. You're going to miss things.

My partner was talking about something. Someone went in there and they circled from the actual images. One that looks like a dog man peeking over the wall and you'll see the wall where we were. And another one that looks like a big, like a giant monkey. Okay. It's a little bit blobby, but it's not as blobby as you think. It clearly looks like Harry from Harry and the Henderson. Yep, yep.

So that's my interaction with, I don't want to think I'm looking at time here and I don't want to kill you. Oh, my goodness. This is, wow, this is, dude, this is one of the, my, and it's, it's such a, like, this episode shouldn't have happened, really, if you think about it. Because I've never, to be honest, Brian, you've never heard of me. I've never heard of you. And Kenny just happened to say, like, hey, Brian, can you take my place? And, like, I'm so glad I got to talk to you. I mean, dude, you rock.

Yeah, I think I just. join your, I think, Bigfoot Society, um, a podcast listener group or whatever it was. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. I do my own research, but I'm usually in all these groups. Yeah. But this, the current way of things going now, it's not research as investigators. It's a lot of storytellers. And they're telling some crazy stories and it's getting exaggerated. And it's actually hurting the investigation of research. Totally. Um, but, uh, we have other, you know, we, we call this, a plan B. So when we plan on doing A, we can't, we go to plan B and a lot of times plan B are very productive. There's another time close to New York State. We're supposed to go shooting one day,

closed. We did plan B. We found a whole area where, uh, at a park in New York state, upstate New York. We found a mother and child footprint of Bigfoot. Oh my goodness. Yeah. And, and I didn't have casting material, but I did have a LIDAR phone. So yeah, lightar, image of this. Yeah, it's, yeah. So, Brian, I could, I could literally talk to you for hours and plus you get, you get the whole, yeah, I'm going to have you come back one day. And you get the whole like Berkshires in northwestern Connecticut area. Like, you get it, dude. I'm, but basically spent 12 years of my life there. Yeah. And now it's off the Florida for the skunk game. So when I go down.

There you go. Can you share with the listeners like how they can best keep up to date with what you're doing and I'll put it in the show notes. Sure. So, um, right now. Right. Now, I'm in between my podcasts because I'm moving, so I have to get that stuff situated. But I'm on all the podcasts under Inside the Goblin Universe. I do one with Ron Murphy or Ron the Crypto Guru Murphy. And I do my own Nobo Bumi, which stands for nobody but me. I'm on every piece of social media when I'm not being kicked off of being political on certain things, protecting everybody's rights. Right.

But you can direct message me. If you have any questions, I will just say, hey, I heard you on Bitcoin Society. so I kind of have a reference of where you're coming from. And I will eventually have the Bronxville Paranormal Society of New York State UFO Project. You say it's at Satswach.org. But I will have Brian Bowden.com up and running soon. Awesome. And that will also have links to get to these other our websites.

And just look for our groups, Bronxville Paranormal Society of New York State UFO project on Facebook. Fantastic. Oh, man. Brian, thank you so much for coming on. and be talking to you in the future of one day. Thanks again, sir. Thanks for listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast. Please take a few minutes to review the show on iTunes,

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