Bigfoot Society - Horror by the Lake: A Fisherman's Ohio Bigfoot Encounter

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

Note: Yes friends, the audio in this episode was bad. really bad. In fact it was so bad we re-recorded the episode and it was still bad. I then spent multiple hours trying to edit the audio and it was still bad. That being said, please do not let the audio quality of this one episode cause you to give us a bad rating. If you don't like then skip it and check out another episode. I appreciate you all listening and did I mention the audio for this episode is really bad? lol. YOU ROCK, BIGFOOT SOCIETY!Don't miss out on today’s episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast, Horror by the Lake, where we interview Jeffrey Lilly, an Ohio-based fisherman and author who has had a shocking encounter with a Sasquatch. During his fishing trip, Jeffrey noticed something unusual and was surprised to see a Sasquatch sitting by the water. However, his surprise quickly turned to horror when he realized that the Sasquatch was also holding a helpless baby deer under the water. Don't miss this exclusive interview with Jeffrey as he recounts his chilling experience and sheds light on the elusive creature known as Sasquatch. Join us for an unforgettable journey into the unknown!Jeffrey's book (affiliate link)Blessed and Curse: True Encounter Stories - https://amzn.to/3Z4dA84----------If you have a Bigfoot encounter you would like to share on Bigfoot Society please contact me at [e-mail] for more info.----------Hey all - I am making a private Facebook group “Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters”. Feel free to apply to join and share the link with those that have had encounters in other groups. Many will apply but not all will be let in. Follow the directions! 🙂 https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_link_______Join us over on Patreon! Get access to extra audio content, exclusive merch like a membership card and stickers, watch me interview guests weekly live on video, a Patron-only Discord and more.https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyPick up a Bigfoot Society shirt to rep the podcast!https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietyTune in for new episodes of Bigfoot Society!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7QFor full links go to:www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com

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can sit down and do this with you, you know, in the middle of our day. Perfect. Well, Jeff, I'm going to let you go ahead and take it from here. And let's see. what you've got to share with us today. Okay, well, it all started off from me. At about the age of eight, my job each morning was to take my sister to school, you know, make sure she arrived safe, and then bring her home after. One spring afternoon after school, I was walking her home. we were taking a different route from what we're using.

So I decided to go ahead and just take Highland Avenue. It was a straight shot to the house from North Norwood, my local school, my hometown. The thing about Highland Avenue was right across the street directly from the road itself. It was a huge patch of woods that ran into a line of railroad tracks laid back and behind there. I just decided to take that way because it was a shorter distance to get home. So I was walking home one day and we as soon as we passed the section where the woods started off, we heard a loop and then our rock hit the street and shattered. And I was kind of spooked at that moment.

So I looked around behind me, you know, who actually threw that. I thought it was one of the kids at first. You know, they had a lot of bullies that had gone. You know, several different people back in the day. But nobody was there. So we turned around, continue to walk. Several, you know, four seconds passed by, we're walking, talking another wound, I mean loud. And then boom, another rock.

And it, you know, just shattered, busted into pieces, hit us in the line. in the legs, I remember that, and that really freaked me out. So I immediately turned back around behind the end to look for kids, but we see who that was doing it. Nobody was there. So I started to glance over and scan the woods, and sure not, in a pocket of woods, off to, you know, west of me with something huge, with just black, with white and gray, run into it, three to four inch,

four inch sections of layered hair. It was hard to make out at that time. Is that section of woods, even with the sun off, it was still kind of dark back in there. But this thing was huge like this. I knew it was not normal to see this. And the same, as I'm looking this thing, bob and I'm weaving its head back and forth and it's shaking two trees. And violently, my sister to the inside of me. And I'm just, you know just started this thing this gay just kind of make out here details it was hard to make details out of this thing i can see vaguely you know uh half human hey i have my sister and we book i'm gonna do this book we's about a half block wet in the house

so we hit the corner made the turn ran downhill to the house and i run in and i tell my mom immediately mommy's got to call the cops there's a monster up there it's a box out of us it's a box out of that was crazy. I was afraid, you know, one of these other kids are going to get hurt. And she says, you know, you kids are full of crap, you know, just go back in your room to your homework. Like it wasn't nothing, you know, like I was just basically like. I remember after that happened, you know, being freaked out. Because our bedrooms that we cared were back to the backside of the house or the windows and I was afraid that this thing, you know, might track us down and try to get through the window and grab one of us.

So I was freaked out, you know, being eight years. total, I mean, they kind of had me on edge for quite a while after that. That was my first legends, you know, stuff that was supposed to be pretty what it exists, a little bit better detail. But, you know, they kind of opened the door for me, and this all really was kind of like a way that just happened for me was kind of like a nightmare. So several years from behind, you know, it was in my teen eight years. to really get into

potton and fishing, Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana. Good buddy of mine and bought a truck, we were forward ranger. So one morning he comes to get me, he says, let's head up to Lake Town one, we're gonna try something different this time, up there and fishers and pass some musket. I agree to go,

and gotten, following when we went up there, Saturday, got a boat before everybody else got there. We was already across the lake and get great fish. And I remember we split up, he went through the front, I went to the back or vice versa. And I told me, do not cast anything and hook me. Please, whatever you do, brother, don't. Don't hook me, let nothing. They're on a good spot.

Soon as we both went to cast, I felt a rip and a tug at my hat. Sure enough, my best friend had put a silver chrome spoon right through my ear all the way through the upper part of the water. And I'm gutting blood. So, you know, daily time, get me to the bed house. We got to get this out. You know, I'm bleeding profusely. And it was painful.

So we get back over there. And I'll never forget the bed house man was like, you know, I've seen that. That whole thing go down. He said, you guys are supposed to hook the fish, not each other. He said, come on in here. I'll get that out for you. Well, he'll get me in. He's got a pair of snives.

He gives me a wooden spoon, tells me to bite down on it, the handle of it. handle of it, poppy, pulled that spoon out of the mare. And, you know, that I was right gone. But Chris tells me, hey, you know, on the way home, he was like, won't we stop the Tots Creek? I found a spot over there. It's an old farmer that lets me fish is land. There's a section of Tots Creek in there's a glass of a musky, you know, big

largemouth bass, and musky runs there. So I went ahead and agreed to go. You know, I didn't want to be a wasted day. And it kind of subsided a little bit. So we park, we go, we get there, we park, got a good 400 walk back there to get to the section where you can get into the creek itself. So we get back here, crying to the fence, and I remember this was a beautiful area, but it was all woods for miles and miles.

And I look off to the right and there's a beautiful waterfall off to the right side of us, enter down into the creek itself. And so what we usually did, we would wait out and fish for white bass with Worcestertail, and vibra-mac spinners and stuff like that. So we get out there and we wade. I'm the middle off to the right side of the creek. I found me all and Chris traveled on further down towards the rapids of ways. We were about seven to five yards far from each other. I remember it was a beautiful morning still early and I'm casting. He's asked him. Every two seconds I'm I looked down at him, make sure he was good.

And I got to make a cast off to the right side of me. And as I got to make that cast, I look up to make my, you know, position to, you know, shoot to a swister towel when I went together to. And sure enough, as I looked up, there comes a baseball-sized rock coming right at. I didn't think of another time. It kind of froze for a second. It landed as it come in into the creek, right beside him about three feet away. huge flash and I'm just pros like and I'm thinking you know that's kind of what to do

that what could possibly do that so I looked down at Chris and I said man why'd you doing it and I kept up here yeah well you see my hands on both my hands are on pole you know I didn't throw that at you I would not throw it at you and take any chance it but it's been to finish yeah especially after I'm all the way to get here second and I just let it go and we continue to fish. It wasn't even five, maybe 10 minutes times before I go to cast again and the same thing. As I look up the cast, make my spot where I'm going to shoot this picture too and sure enough as soon as I'm casting I looked up and another size baseball or even bigger, a little bit bigger I'd say come in right at me

again and this time landed even closer to me. And then hit the water. Didn't hit me, but it was close. Splash right next to me. I immediately looked down on my best friend and he's looking at me. You know, eyes are huge. We make eye contact and we both this take off. We're treading up out of ours.

We get through this wire to get to the bank. We get to the bank. We're both stood freaked out. We're trying to get up this bank. And it's a little bit of steep incline that goes up to get it out of there to the grass. And we're both wet, and the water's coming off while this and hitting this muddy bay, and it's making it so slippery, you know, like a wet clay. We cannot get up this incline to get the grass to get away.

And we are freaked out to the max. Now, mind you, this is the second time. This happened to me. And I'd heard something the first time, but I didn't hear nothing this time. And sure enough, I mean, you know, we after about another five minutes of fighting with that slippery slope to get up out there, we get up out of there and we are running as fast as we came to get back to that truck. And it looks like it's so far away, especially when you're freaked out. I finally, you know, after running a good 400 yards to get there, we throw the poles immediately into the back of the bed. He jumps in the driver's side.

I ran around to the passenger side, and he was inside of the truck. trying to start up the truck and he can't, he's got the keys in his hand, but he can't get the keys into the ignition. So I slapped his hand, grabbed the keys, I pushed the key into the ignition and started the truck. And then he kind of, I guess, became a little bit more, you know, coherent at that moment. And immediately through the year down, you know, just push it down and peel us up out there. And it was to say, we never went back here after. So on the way home, he's like, you know what do you think and do that what what do you think did that and I said buddy that I only had an idea you know what possibly do that make the drive home

never went back there ever again now after that we a few weeks later we were going to try to fish the other area down on that 32 which was newtown there was a section of river there but we've been hearing rumors about something crazy going on down there too with they were saying some kind of wild man was running around at my time and was chasing people that my night fishing. I got out of their spot, so kind of spook this, you know, fished back in that area. Time went by and I hadn't fished at all quite a while.

And one day my uncle comes to the house and says, hey, you know, you guys maybe think about going out of the time with me and maybe trying some night fishing up there. We had fished there a few times before, but never had we, you know, sent some to the night and time. This place was so hard to get to because if you had a huge stretch of woods, but it was like a small mountain per se. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture East us with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture Research with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card in an order to 5% cashbacks on your favorite bundle of brands when you join Venmo's stash.

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diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease it was like a said at about an 80 degree incline as you went up and I just remember it was exhausted so badly you know so we just never tried to night fish ever because of danger how violent of an angle that

that lake was up set on you know you can only take the basics of it you know you couldn't pack coolers or anything like that you can just take you know laner pulse binneau bucket you know and that'd be about it now i never forget this was nineteen ninety five we set up we made plans to go we get there time this not yeah it's permission to go it was my uncle mike he was a former army ranger and it was one of his We got to mention, we got out there. We got out there probably about three-ish that day. This was late September.

I'll never forget it in 1995. It was like all having. I don't warm that day, in the middle 80, and I just remember that climb was so with the heat and humidity, hit that 80-degree incline. It was a battle to get up there. So about 40, 45 minutes later, if we finally get up to the top, the time, the pan side, because there was a big section of trees that overhung the left side

of Lake One and a big pocket of shade there. So that's when they would all water down and then they would sit in the shade. But they never mess with us. We never mess with them. Yeah, they did everything we did ours. So we get up there, we're finishing and we're busting up some big, big dam. They went quick because we've ever had them, you know, at a good time. well he's had a good time up there for the fishing was great up there and there was another

lake like two it set up a hundred yards to the north higher you had to climb another hundred yards to get up to the second place but nobody would ever even attentive because it was so hard to get to lake one by the time you got you know to one you were like not even going to try to i'm not even making that that extra climb you know so but there was a huge ridge that went in between lake one and uh Lake 2 and it went back towards the downward slope and it rose up about another good thousand feet and then wrapped around to the very front side of Lake 2 and then north like I said was a that built up about a hundred yards and then to the right there was a big

opening this was a lot of trees but some of them had been taken down or fallen and you could see a clear paint that shot down to the Miami Whitewire River forest area The cows usually go down in the air of the evening and sit there or even sleep there and watered out. So the day went pretty quick. My idea is everybody's making this switch over, the survivors and hooks. We took them in a crop fishing. Tom told us that was every some big crop in there. So we decided that's what we were going to do when the bass quit it.

So everybody makes the tie over. on us, you know, night came quick. So I would plan put it right in the middle of the front part of Lake 1 so everybody can see. We all spread out, you know, about 15, 20 yards apart from each other, you know, give each other little space to be able to get it. Well, about, about midnight, between 12 and 1, I could hear something stop to come down off that bridge on the left-hand side of it. They would move, take a couple steps. You know, you could hear the actual steps. It's kind of like boom, boom, stop, boom, stop.

I thought it was a deer, you know. We all did actually. It wasn't that loud, you know, so we didn't think of nothing. We just got deer, you know, and we all just get all fish. Well, a couple hours went by, didn't hear nothing else, you know, from that side. We're all croppy fishing. Oh, okay. And all of a sudden, you hear what sounds like, it sounded to me like a baby.

It was whining, you know, just whining out. My Uncle Mike even heard and said, at one point, I remember saying, do you hear that? What is that to you hear? Yeah, here. What do you think it is? And he says, I don't know, sounds like a baby trying, but I said, what was you go go check that out? So, grab my phone.

I know a spot that's over on that side anyway, where I'm hearing this, the sound. And I make the walk over to the left side of the leg. Oh, I forgot about telling you about the cow, about midnight the cows got up and left out of nowhere took off on us. I don't know why they did, you know, but they did. Like I said, I drove it down while I'm making the walk around to the left side of this. Like, like one. And I'm round and I got the landing in my hand.

got my pole and yellow. As I make the turn, I raise the land, but I can see, it's so dark up there, but I'm raising my light and I see something squatted down next to the lake. And it's got its hand in the lake, like it's getting drink of water. Now I raise, as I raise this, like this thing, I guess it's got light on it. So it's so much of the turn its head and as it does, I see his eyes and they glow like she had a yellow, not too intense. It was so shocking at that moment. This thing starts to raise his hand about the water. It's turning and said, if I can see the water, you know,

fall off its hand and fall back into the lake. As soon as we make eye contact, this thing lets out the lowest. I remember the bat on my chest immensely. And this total fear in shock took every that moment. This thing was squatted down. was squatted down, and it was almost as tall as me. I was five, eight. I just remember the same thing for.

A cinnamon brown color, same, the hair or fur was the same. It was the same. I didn't smell anything at all whatsoever, but there was no smell. In either one of my encounters, it was never smelled. But I remember, I could hear my Uncle Mike as I started to slowly come back to. What is it? Do you see that? What is that?

Well, I look over in this day as a baby dough held down by the throat kicking. This thing is violently kicking trying to get free. That's what I think got me in the most. I just could not believe at that moment I was seeing what I was seeing because, you know, everybody you talk to who says these things don't exist or myths or legend, you're crazy you ever say, see my, I know what I've seen, but at that time, I was thinking, what the hell I'm not? You know, I even asked myself at one point, subconsciously, man, am I in a Hollywood movie scene? It's just nothing about this situation. It's bright. Yeah, am I going crazy? What is

going on? I could not believe I was seeing what I was envisioning. It was insane. And this thing, This baby, though, Deer, was not getting away. It was over for that thing. It was not getting away. But now, me and this thing, I knew it was Bigfoot right there in that moment. It wasn't a huge, you know, it wasn't as big as the one I'd seen before. One I'd seen before was probably pushing. That's seven, seven hundred, a good 700 pound.

This was 450, 500 times. But I just remember the cinnamon brown and the arms, the length of the length of arms, the sagittal crest of the head. It wasn't as intense as I've seen on, you know, looking back now on the most of the adult pictures that I've seen. It's intense, you know, it's like this, this big foot's head was not, the skull wasn't as huge, big, but you can still see it. So I'm just considered it at that point, it's things kind of do, probably as it wasn't that thing but it was still pretty impressive but I just remember this thing you know it would look at me and I looked to the woods but it would not

take off you know as you hear in most other stories this it would be you know bowled off when you take off trying to hide this thing I guess because it had a fever I guess it is another of this thing you know it was in a showdown with me I that it wasn't going to leave without taking its catch with it. I just remembered I slowly came back to reality a little bit. I could hear my uncle at that point. I said, run, bow now. And I took off and they took off.

And I hit the side of this mountain, my jump, off the side of it, and I hit the slope, the down slope, running. And they were right behind it. They weren't far behind me at all, trust me. And I'm raising the light to see, you know, where we're going. I'm trying to guide myself and them because there was down trees and rocks and stuff everywhere. And so as I'm raising the light to line up the spot, you know, so we can see where the hell we're going. I kind of slowed down a little bit.

And when I did, they hit me from behind, you know, out of fear. And we just all come down like bowing pins all the way down the side of the slope. it seemed like forever. Rolling and banging into trees and pieces of rock. Finally come to a stop. And everybody's, you know, winded, they're breathing heavy, and they're in shock. Every one of us is in shock. I go to get up to make time run again, and I can't even get my feet underneath me to get up and go.

And this went on for five minutes. I don't know if it was fear. I don't know. You know, shock maybe, but I just remember none of us could get our feet underneath us for a good three to five minutes after we made that, you know, that fall. And I just remember that moment, and it's over. You know, it's going to come out of somewhere and get us. Or there's more of these things that are going to come out of nowhere and just take us it if it's over, you know? That's how bad to scare me.

It was the most frightening moment of my life, you know. It was insane. Finally, we get up, we finally get our feet from our down the bottom of the hill. And Tom, as we hit his parking a lot, he comes out of the house. He said, what that? And my Uncle Mike bought over to him, winded, as we all were, says,

said, I worked a good time. You know, something just spooked us up there. I said, I was wondering what the hell's going on. I can hear you all. Spramed at home coming down that now. We all get up in this park lot, in a circle, and they're asking me, what did you see? What was that?

What did you see? I said, you know what I saw? You guys end up seeing it. I put the light right on that thing. I know what I saw. And I remember my mom, my example, what we did. Come on, we got to talk this one out.

we cannot put this out there. If we let's just be now, people are going to come out and try to hunt these things, this thing, these things, you know, and it'll be chaos on Tom's land. It will upset him. He probably won't let us go back to fish him. So in that moment, my uncle's trying to make, you know, give us to make a pat, you know. Well, then here come a neighbor that the few hundred yards over from Tom. I remember him coming down and saying he'd heard all the same.

You know, a ruckus going on. He actually called a state trooper. So, state trooper come over. We tell him about what I had seen to the teeth, described it in full description. Because I knew what I'd seen, I didn't care. And I know it wasn't crazy. And the first thing the state troopers said, goes, you know what? I get it. We get these calls all the time. Usually this time of year is when they start to when he said, the thing is here, you know, it's been quite some time since all this has happened. You really want me to make that climb all the way up there to check this out. And I said, well, there's no sense. There's nothing now because, you know, some time that's gone by.

This thing's probably gone by now. It probably left when we bowled it down the hill, you know, because it didn't chase us. So he did take the report, but he never wanted. up there. So we get it, you know, composures back together and get back over to the parking lot and we're getting married, rock and roll and get us out of there. And I remember Malcolm Mike saying it again, you know, we got to keep us a secret. Please promise me you guys, keep us a secret. And made us all promise to keep it a secret, you know, to not say anything, which I didn't. You know, nobody did for over 20 years. My mother,

Uncle Mike went back to get the year the next day. Everything that we dropped and lost on the way down. But he went back on, go to pistol, you know, his service weapon. So he said, you know, but we never went back with him. And we never went back here and fished it. After that moment, I just knew at that moment, you know, I knew what I had seen. And there was no way I was going back that there or fish ever again. It didn't matter how good the fish was. I wasn't going. And I did. I kept in a secret for a long time, over 20 years, until I had a few life altering in the moment.

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And then my fiance, she had been diagnosed with a bad lung problem of disease. That was deteriorating her lung. So I said, I would her one day. And she told me just let it out and go, you know, let it all go, get it out. And that's what I've been doing ever since. So I did several interviews, you know, trying to push through the truth. I even wrote a couple books which helped me get to the death of my family members. So now I'm not a pretty good place in life, you know.

Wow, Jeff, what a story for sure. Yeah. The coolest thing is that you working through your story by writing the books has helped you reclaim life. Yeah. Yeah. That is really cool. Yeah. I mean, you know, I had a few more things happen, but they were just, you know, they were never really close at all to what I've experienced.

I just always wanted to tell about, you know, the things that I'd actually seen, you know. It's because there's so many people that just don't even have a clue that these things really do exist, but they really do. I mean, you know, as most, you know, big researchers, you know, we'll say, not ever. Everybody can be lying, you know. But for me, it never matter to me what people thought of me. I was just really trying to keep the secret because, you know, my father and his brothers, my uncles, they were pretty rough on me. They kind of bullied me as well when I was growing up as a young.

So I always had that little bit of fear over me. You know, they always had that, they always maintained that fear element of me. So I kind of, you know, felt that played a huge part in me keeping a secret for all those years. You know what I mean? But now, since I've even let that go, like, I've been trying to get a documentary film set up with Jason Humble, you know, because I write with Zobig Media Publishing as well. I've written 12 or 13 books with them, you know, several of them about Bigfoot as well. But they are into doing documentaries about Bigfoot, you know. So I was recently talking to Jason.

He does the searching for Sasquatch, one through seven-ish, I think now, maybe even eight. Searching for Sasquatch, you know, shooting for the truth, you know, is what he's doing. He goes all over, you know, the country and does documentary films in a hot spot, you know. And he really even wanted to go back up to times, you know, and maybe even shoot a documentary about that encounter as well. because here's the thing, you know, I forgot to tell you, but Tom had told us that one time that, because he used to go up the lake on a quad, you know, because his health is pretty, you know, to plead it pretty daily. And he had told us that he'd down a couple of deer up there off to the right side where he

would ride his quad up. He had found a couple of bucks, deer, you know, big bucks with their heads broken and their their chins were, you know, I mean, something like something, grabbed their neck, broken, and then placed their chins upon their backside, on their back. Oh, wow. But he never even said anything about it until after the, that's what shocked me, you know, like it just, I wish he would have said something beforehand, you know, like, I wouldn't ever even made that trip, you know?

I mean, and now you hear about it all time. I mean, that's what they do. I mean, they do feed on deer and that's exactly what they do to them. You know what I mean? That's how first they need it. So, and then, you know, sometimes they'll even break your legs, which is kind of inhumane. But you know, like they're half human and they have eight is my, that's my belief. You know what I mean?

But I believe they had more of us in them than they do anything else. They are just very evasive, evasive, very defensive, very mothonical and everything they do. do. I mean, like, you know, from the Times moment on that mountain forward, even though I didn't let the secret out, I did research for many, many years, you know, and I didn't even bring up. After all this went down, you know, and I've written my first two books, I took the approach of maybe, you know, just doing a kid's book first, and then doing an adult book second, you know, and just kind of slowly bring it into play in about my, buying calories. We took a break and took a vacation down in Kentucky.

My good buddy Tim Regal, his mom and dad had moved down there because his dad just retired from General Motors in Indiana, and we made a trip down home to go fishing for a couple days. And I remember when we got down there, the following morning, as we were making the walk over from his brother Jonathan's to his mother and fathers, we had booked down. And Tim had actually found a deer lane that had been, it looked like it had been spanned, grabbed and spawned and spawned, you know, like it was until it finally had just been rung completely and just popped off of the body. That's how the college was on this deer leg. That was crazy. to me when we seen that. And I took pictures of that, but that phone got broke soon after

this fishing trip. And then so later on that morning we went down and we were fishing. I believe it was the Nero Lake down there. And when we got there, it was up on the ridge up above me while we were trying to back the boat in. I was guiding Tim's bad to get the boat into the water and something had to rock had been first. from up on the ridge up above us. And then, you know, we just let that go. I didn't say nothing to the body, but then we get in and we're fishing the opposite side of the lake. And out of nowhere, a boat passes us and waves hits us. And then the waves calm down.

And all of a sudden you hear this huge pop like something into the tree, you know, a fresh tree and just broke it, popped it, pushed it straight over. And it hit the ground. and it sounded like a missile. And it scared us so bad, man. We jumped off the boat, you know. We went, you know, while on this boat in the water, jumped off, and everybody landed back on the boat. Luckily, none of us went into the water.

But that really shocked the crap out of the Saturday. And then after that, we decided to go on home that, better that weekend on a Sunday. And I remember we got to Berea, Kentucky, and I looked up on this huge mountainside, and it's a top. It was a huge crew up there. And I guess they were doing a deforestation, you know, deforest, I kind of hate for now. But they were knocking all the trees down off this mountainside, and they had cleared the whole hillside. I guess to make a new piece of highway or something was going on.

Then as we were making that drive and I'm looking up to the ride up on top of that mountain top, all of a sudden my buddy Tim looks over to me. It says, whoa, you got to check this out. And he grabs his hand and puts it on the shoulder. And I look over his way into the left of me, the opposite side of the highway from the highway bill. there was about a hundred yard stretch as we went up through there at about six six and a half feet a hundred yards straight were tree breaks clean tree big clean as a whistle straight all the way at the highway road just off in the left about you know i mean to the left of the road in a straight

line for a hundred yard and we took pictures of them too i mean as we were going up through there and I knew right there that they'd done upset the balance, you know, I mean, with taking all the trees down off that mountain side. Something you went over to the left and made tree breaks, and I guess marked her territory, like, don't come to this side. You're good over there, but don't come over here. You know, so that was in that moment, my buddy became a believer. And so, but you know, by that time, I'd already know what was going on. So it just kind of, you know, just. Another little incident to me, I mean, because I'd actually seen the forewong truth.

So. You had that incident before, and I would imagine that would be enough for anyone once they've seen that. If he ends up making that documentary on that area, would you go back with him if he asked you to. Yes, sir. Yeah. I mean, we've already talked about it several times. And even my publisher, my boss man, Thomas Markham, big, big, he's a huge in the business. Bigfoot world. 2014, 2015, film of the year, researcher of the year, he wants to get, you know, he's also my publisher.

He wants to get involved in it too. So we're really trying to make a push to three of us to go out here and get in this documentary. We're really trying to make it happen. It's my dream, you know what I mean? I would love to get back up there with them and do this. Thank you for listening to Bigfoot Society. If you like the show, please review.

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