Bigfoot Society - Hunter Shares His Bigfoot Encounter in Massachusetts!

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

Join us as veteran hunter Ernie Daviau recounts a gripping encounter with a Sasquatch in the forests of Massachusetts. During a routine hunt near Blanford and Granville, Ernie comes face-to-face with the towering figure of a Bigfoot. Witnessing the creature's movements and experiencing an unexpected communication attempt, Ernie's story provides a detailed and thrilling account of this mysterious encounter. Don't miss this captivating tale that challenges all you know about these elusive forest dwellers.Resources:New England Encounters on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/newenglandencounters/?etsrc=sdtShare your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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you get a special members-only episode every single week on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society. And now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Ernie Davio. He's an individual from out in the New England area, and he's got an interesting encounter that he had happened to him, and he'll be sharing that today. But Ernie, it's a privilege to finally get to talk to you, and how are you doing today, sir?

I'm doing pretty good. It's privileged to speak with you today with my past history on hunting. I've hunted pretty much all my life up until this point here. an Air Force veteran. I hold not just one black belt, but I hold four separate black belts and four different styles. And that'll come into play down the line here

when, you know, because I've done quite a few of these podcasts and people always ask me, they go, well, why didn't you run? You know, and I'll get into that fighter flight thing here. But this actually happened in the state of Massachusetts up near Blamford, Drake Mountain, actually, between Blamford in Granville, and it borders Connecticut within a couple of miles. I had hunted this many, many times. The area that I chose to hunt, I usually hunted by myself in that area also, and I chose

it because it was pretty steep in history. And a lot of people were, I don't want to say afraid, but we'll just say really hesitant to go in there. And it didn't bother me. I had no, I really, I don't want to say, didn't believe in Big Flip because I seen the Patty film many years ago, many, many years ago, even prior to that when I was a young kid. And I just figured, well, it was probably just one of them.

and, you know, by now there's no more, and that's out way far away from me. So, but boy, it would be pretty cool to see one. So that was a long time before this had actually happened. And so I would push off, and people do this when you're out there, hiking or whatever, you pretty much push off anything that's not obvious. It's human done by humans, you know. And because there's a lot of things that animals, in the woods do not do.

These beings, I like that word beings, do things. Some are very subtle, and some are not so subtle. But I had planned my hunt in that area. For that particular morning, it was the last week of shotgun season.

Actually, it was like the last day or two of shotgun season in the state of Massachusetts. which is, I believe, the first week of December. My plan to get in there was to come up from the Grandville-Tobble Mountain Reservoir side of Drake Mountain and gain access to the top of the mountain from there. The mountain is actually on two sides. It has apple orchards, and the other sides obviously have the reservoirs. A lot of woods, a lot of ravines, gorges, everything else.

It'll get you lost or hurt if you're not watching out. But I had figured out that the weather patterns for that day were going to be fairly nice, low temperatures. And the wind would be blowing in my favor if I entered that area from the Grandville Reservoir Access Road, which I did. And I had already scouted that area out, and I had figured out that the deer were going to be bedded down. And what I used to like to call like a stonehenge there, the Massachusetts Hiltown Hikers Association has hiking trails up through there now. And they were nice enough to actually post a video of that actual route that I took up in through there. and those rocks are one of them, I think, 40 feet tall. It's called Lookout Rock or Ladder Rock or something like that.

I don't recall ever seeing those names before anywhere. But at the bottom of the mountain, there was a big boulder there that I used for a marker in that boulder. We never knew who painted it, but it would have the three faces of three different Indians on that boulder. as you approached it from the side, from the right side, it would be one, and as you got in front of it, be another, and as you got by it, be another. And right after that, there was an old fire road in there, and it gained access to the top of the mountain.

Later on, I learned that that actually was called part of Uncummit's Pass, that goes all the way up into Pittsfield and up into the areas that you're familiar with. that you kind of grew up in and everything. It went across the Russell Mountains, Montgomery Mountains, all the way up and through there. But I learned that later on after my encounter, because that was my thing, is I never went and studied

and looked for anything that really had too much to do with Sasquatch. It was all about me. Why did this happen to me? And you'll hear in the story that, Generally, your encounter is only about maybe between five and 11 seconds long, and that's pretty much it. And had that happened to me, I would have been probably like the hero down at the local bar. I could have gone down and got a couple of drinks, but it didn't go that way. Okay, so I basically had to shut up for a very long time.

But anyways, as I got onto the access road to go by the Grandville Reservoir, and I just passed. by my cutoff point here, the, I call it Indian rock, and took my left up, I knew from scouting area the deer were going to be bedded down up near these boulders. And as I got closer to those boulders, it was kind of crispy out, just a little bit, just a little tiny bit of frost out there. And I could see my breath. And sure enough, as I got closer to them boulders, I jumped the deer. And anybody who hunts knows what deer sound like, we call it jumping up.

They just top right up to their feet and maybe stop their foot or their feet or whatever. And then they start to take off a little bit. And that's what I heard. I knew it was probably three or four deer anyways. And they proceeded to be traveling in the same direction that I was headed across the top of the mountain to the other side where the apple orchards were. So my objective knowing the area was to just let them

simmer down for a minute or two because they couldn't identify me and then try to get out in front of them to set up an ambush point as they came through that's what I was hoping for so what I did was I started doing what I like to call a two-step

rather than walk like a bipedal like a man would walk or a woman would walk, you know, I walked toe heel. So it sounded more like a four-legged animal. Whenever I felt that they might hear me, and I tried my best not to be heard. So any place, there's a lot of shale on that pathway there, and a lot of rock outcropms, I want to say.

So you really kind of have to watch your footing a little bit there. so I was using that method and I had them now on my right hand side. I couldn't see them because of the ridgeline, but I could definitely hear them. And in hindsight, I could hear something on the other side of them too, but I passed it off to being possibly another deer, you know, driving along with them. Some hunters will say, you know, deer don't push deer. That's not true. I've seen him do it. I've actually seen Doe push a buck, drive a buck in a certain direction, actually right up by me.

But in this case here, that's what I figured it was. And probably from those boulders to where I was hoping to get to was probably maybe two to 300 to 300 yards, I'd say. But you've got to operate really slow. and that path will go straight down towards that apple orchard straight ahead. But then it curves to the right, right where I wanted to set up my hand, which it does a dog leg. And there's in between the dog leg there, there's a stone wall, okay? And there's a set of pines that would be on my side if they were going to come through there. That's where I wanted to be.

And that's where the brook kind of came out of the mountain right there. So I proceeded to watch my wind direction, move slowly, be as quiet as I could. And I got out there. I managed to get out there. I was really kind of proud of myself doing something like that. And I could hear them coming through these small saplings towards that stone wall. So I had set up my ambush point right there. I had a 12-gauge shotgun semi-auto on me.

and I crouched down a little bit and had my shotgun pointed right towards that stone wall. I knew they were going to come over that stone wall. And those saplings, most of them were beach nuts. So it made a lot of sense that they were going to come in there. They were going to probably simmer down a little bit. And then they were going to come over that stone wall and I'd have my harvest. Well, I heard them come in and, of course, approaching that little cutoff point right there. I made sure that I looked around and there wasn't anything in the vicinity.

I didn't want to scare anything else that was there, have them deer run in the back in the same direction they originally came from. And it wasn't anything there. I didn't see anything there. So now I'm set up facing that stone wall. And to my left, on my 9 o'clock, about 35 yards from me, I noticed movement at the base of a tree. Now I'm thinking of myself, well,

you know, really what can that be? And I look at it and I thought it could have been a deer. So I got my 12 gauge pointed out. I'm waiting for it to move and get up a little bit because a lot of some people frown on shooting a deer regardless while it's laying down or sleeping. And it just started getting up a little bit more. But during this whole time period here, this is just the beginning of it. I'm trying to remain cognizant of those deer on the other side of the stone wall.

Now, this so-called deer started scrunching up to the tree more. Now I'm getting the impression that it is not a deer. It's a heavy-bodied animal, and it's more than likely a bear. You'll hear this a lot of times from people. They'll say, you know, they'll question somebody like myself and they'll say, well, how can you mistake it for a bear? It's really easy. You might mistake a log for, for, for, you know, they'll say, well, how can you mistake it for, a bear or a deer or a rabbit or even a squirrel or whatever.

It's very easy to be done. You've got to be able to put something in that peg in a hole. You can't just, particularly when you're carrying a weapon, you can't just assume that this is what it is and agree with yourself. You have to be looking for those cues. Well, it scrunched up to that tree quite a bit. And I'm thinking of myself, if it's a bear, I've got my shotgun back on it because if it's a bear, I don't have a bear permit, and if it bum rushes me, I'm going to have to take action on it, you know?

So then I see it getting really close to the tree, and this is my 9 o'clock now, okay? And at that point, it's kind of like a little bit higher, but it's really close to that tree, and now I can make out. This is the silhouette of a guy. That's what it is. It's a silhouette of a guy. So this is another hunter in here. And I'm going, he must have been sleeping on the ground and I didn't notice him. And now he hears them deer coming through because now you can hear them deer coming through.

Pretty good. They're moving around in there. And he starts to stand up. Because I put my shotgun back on that area where the deer are. I'm confident that it's pretty much another hunter. But at the same time, I don't want to get shot. because I know he's Massachusetts. He's got to have a shotgun on him.

He'd probably blow it with buckshot instead of slugs. And if them deer come over that stone wall, the distance between him and I, if they come in between him and I, and he doesn't know I'm there, I'm going to get shot. So I figure I'm going to move up maybe, you know, just a foot or two,

just so that he can catch me in his peripheral if something does try to come in between us. And he's, I'd say he's like, three quarters of the way standing, about three quarters of the way standing and all heck broke loose on the other side of that stonewall. I mean, I could hear limbs,

not just branches, I could hear limbs snap and I can hear boulders clanging against each other. And at that point, I'm looking back at him to see reaction and he's fully standing there with his head on the other side of the tree facing away from me.

It's at that point right there. I'm saying to myself, this is absolutely the biggest man I've ever seen in my life. I said, this is unbelievable. I said, I've got to, I've got to take a marker on the tree. I've got to find a twig. I've got to find a branch. I've got to find something in the tree so that I can measure it if everything turns out okay later on.

And I actually seen a piece of moss on that tree, a good-sized piece of moss. So I put that in my memory bank, that piece of moss. And this little ruckus on the other side of stonewall was going on. And I'm trying to maintain between the two of them there because I'm still not so sure. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of Plant Killers, we'll explore One Nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer. Bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle Grow organic raised bed and garden soil. It's made with quality organic ingredients from upcycled green waste like compost and aged bark. Unlike the other guys who can't say the same, looks like bad dirt's murdering days are over. Thanks to Miracle Grow. Join us next time on plant killers. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago.

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Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. I don't know anybody would be like right off the bat, say, well, that's a, that's a Sasquatch or whatever. I'm still kind of on the line, the borderline now, ready to fall off that fence. that this this is absolutely the largest man I've ever seen in my life. And I've seen some big guys. You know, heck, my, you know, six foot eight,

look at people around six foot eight, you know, who got some of these basketball players, you know? But he was huge. And that's when he had his right hand on the tree, and he had his right leg on my side of the tree. He put that right leg out, and he leaned out on my side of the tree. And he looked directly over that.

stone wall. Well, when he did that, he caught me in his periphyl. That is just what I planned if it was another hunter. And when he caught me in his peripule, he looked over, at me, looked back across at that stone wall and then snapped his head right back at me. Like he, like, like, he, like, like you, like he, like you, like he couldn't believe what he was seeing. Because I was not hidden. I was pretty much in the open. He just couldn't believe that I was standing there. And that's where, if everybody listening, remembers what I said, that would have been great. I could have gone to the local bar, got myself a beer. And said I'd seen Sasquatch.

I knew instantly, instantly when it looked at me what it was. Beyond the shadow of a doubt, at 35, 36 yards, I'd be on the shadow of the doubt. I would have got myself a beer. But no, no, he had to do something else. He took a full step around that tree. bringing his left leg around and facing me directly. And he put both hands up in front of them between the chest and the waist. Elbows in, elbows are touching his sides, I will say,

because his arm weren't straight out, his arm right, straight up above his head. They're in between chest and waist, and his elbows worked in towards his torso. And his palms were facing me. And his fingers were together. His four pointer fingers were together pointing straight up in the air. And he pumped them twice. I got my 12 gauge right on him. I don't know what's going to happen.

I'm just thinking of myself, you know, I mean, what do you think of yourself? You know, I'm like, God, if this thing bum rushes me, I'm in trouble. and I'm thinking also about the deer on the other side of the stone wall believer or not I'm saying to myself there's I think there's more than one I think there's more than one I I wasn't understanding some things like that but I'm thinking there was he proceeds to give me those that hand signal there and he takes a step towards me and he's walking gingerly I had lowered my shotgun because that's the hand signal he gave me, you know, and it's disturbing. It should be disturbing to some

people. He knew how to approach me. He took his right hand, made a fist with his pointer finger, sticking out. He pointed directly to my chest. And he pointed directly to his chest. And again, I'm taking this stuff in, and I'm like, you know, unbelievable. I mean, figure it out yourself, folks. Who are you going to tell this to? So he takes, he's still kind of walking towards me. I got my, my 12 gauge, now slung over my shoulder, hanging off my shoulder. And he puts his hands out again as like the first time, except he puts his hands out.

again as like the first time except he puts his palms down towards the ground and he's looking directly at me directly at me and he's closing distance he's he's pretty much about i'd say more than halfway to me and then he turns his palms up you know i i take it to mean that they didn't have any food. He was looking for food. You know, I do have interpretations of the hand signals that he did to me.

I call him he because he didn't have mammaries. All right. I didn't check him out because, let's face it, you know, he's kind of checking me out. I'm checking him out. I don't want him to get the wrong impression or anything like that.

So as he does that, I'm thinking that there's going to be a point here where I'm going to have to make some kind of hand signals back to him because this is at that level. At that time, it was at that level. I had checked my, before I slung my shot on,

I just want to throw it in there, I had checked there's a compass on that shotgun. Not that it really works. It was a hammy down for my great-uncle. But there was a compass on there. I was trying to get in as much information as I possibly could. I let my breath out so I could see which way the wind was actually blowing that morning. I could see my breath.

I also looked at my watch. I can't tell you the exact time today. but I can tell you that it was about 10 or 11 minutes after the hour that this happened that I looked at my watch at that point. Like I said, he kept walking towards me and now he was extremely close. And he gave me another hand signal. And that one was, he pointed over.

my left shoulder pointed over my right shoulder and at that point there I figured that that's probably um it's going to be my turn to try to do something back you know like I said I had I had no knowledge of of the the forest people or these beings or anything before this zero on them I didn't know what they could do or what they understood or anything. But this one obviously appeared to understand quite a bit. And things have changed for me now. I understand a lot more about them. But I parlayed back to him that yes, indeed, we're what I deem to be equal.

Because he pointed to me first, you know what I'm saying? Then he pointed himself. So I deemed that that was an important gesture right there. Yeah, that's cool. were brothers were equal. Then I took my hands and I put my palms the same position as his

and pointed them down to the ground. I had no food. I did not ask him for food. I just said I did not have any food. And then I pointed over his shoulders. At that point I'd say

that he was probably five yards from me. And I can see the color of his eyes. I can see the wrinkles on his face. I could see absolutely the length of his hair on his arms, how much hair he had before and after the knuckles, which is kind of hilarious to me,

because I've been doing this publicly now for a couple of years, and it's just hilarious how people just, you know, you're looking at them at 50 yards, and trust me about getting to this, you can't tell where the hair starts or stops. or ends or anything. So at this point, pretty much

he's close enough to me and this is another thing that this does really bring a question in my mind why did he do this next thing? Why? I just, nobody has an explanation

and everybody wants to say this or that, but I'll tell you what he did. It was close enough to me. And at that point, I was standing pretty much right next to him. I was below his shoulder. He was, I was a little bit above his bicep, but below his shoulder. Like I said, I could see the hair. At first, I thought that hair was black, but the sun was hitting it a little bit.

I could see the length of it. It was dark, dark, dark, dark, dark brown. dark dark brown skin tone pretty much the same thing you would say it was ash colored even maybe even black okay some people would say black some people would say ash colored or they'll say like black that's another thing of that when i listen to people it's like what is like an apple pie there's no such thing that you cannot describe something by saying well it's like yellow or whatever you've got to come closer to that when you're describing something for an artist or anything But he held his hand out, down between the two of us, palm up. Then I looked at his palm. I have no idea, absolutely no idea why he did this. Some people say he was asking for his gun. Believe me, he didn't need a gun.

Okay, he didn't need a weapon of any sorts. I do not believe that was it. And when you hear this, you'll probably agree with this. At that point, when he was reaching his hand up, me look at his palm and showing me his palm, I was dropping my hand to my sidearm. I carried a sidearm on me. And my right hand had the grip on my handgun was just touching my palm.

I was just starting to get a purchase on it. He didn't like that. He tapped his palm. He wanted me to look at his palm. So I stopped doing that because I was watching his eyes. I'm a trained fighter. I was watching his shoulders, his body movement. And that kind of scared me when he did that.

But now I'm all in. I'm looking at his palm. And I'm going to tell everybody right now, okay? Their hands are like our hands. There's no doubt about it. Absolutely. You know, if you hear somebody else that was his close, with me, I'm pretty 100, 200% sure they're going to tell you the same thing.

But if they've seen the palm, which I have never seen, never heard of anybody, this is what I've seen. They had the same mark, he had the same markings on his hands, on his palm that we have in our palms, the same markings except for a lifeline. There was no lifeline there. And I'm thinking, was that the reason why he tapped his hand, that he was adamant about this whole situation? I don't know. Why?

Why would he do that? It was pretty much at that point there. I looked at him and he nodded his head at me. Like, bowed his head almost at me. Out of respect or something. Because I think maybe they had something to do with the double-taker. he did on me like how did you get this far how did you get right here and he looked over that stone wall and that's where i was really able to measure myself on on on his body height you know next

next to him where i stood on him and he may put both his hands up to his mouth like like the megaphone things you would do like yelling and he makes these three whoop noises nobody's ever seen him do that nobody you know i it was unbelievable you might as well just go down to the zoo and stand next to the lion cage and let one of them roar. It was equal, it was equal to that. But he made three wolf noises. And in between each one, it was a second and a half. And people are going to say, well, how do you know that? I'm pretty good with that. I'm pretty good at counting rounds being shot off. I play a little bit of music myself. So it's all about keeping beat. But there's about a second and a half in between each wolf noise.

Looks right back at me. Nod's his head. looks back over to Stonewall and he whistles and I've heard that whistle before that is the whistle that myself and my hunting party growing up that sounded just like a human whistle just like a human whistle

and it was like a come on whistle that kind of a whistle and he motioned with his right hand by swinging his arm to whomever was on the other side of that stonewall that he wanted them to go in the direction where basically he originally came from but it looked further out okay big for society will be right back after these messages on this episode of plant killers we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer bad dirt what makes bad dirt so bad the

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Obviously, he could see whatever it was on the other side of the wall. He knew they were already there because he was taller than me so he could see. But he knew they were already there. And he gave that hand signal, looked back at me one last time, and he didn't run off. He didn't speedwalk off or anything like that. He just kind of smoothly just walked away from me and went past that tree where I originally seen him to equal out probably another to about the 55, 60 yard mark, I'd say right in there between him and I at that point when he got to a standstill out there. and he wasn't there maybe, I don't know.

I'll say four seconds. And I heard this freight train coming through them saplings on the other side of that stonewall headed towards Drake Brook. It had to cross that dog leg. And I knew that. And I knew that this was not a deer. That this was something very big, much larger than a bear. and it was booking. It was just slaughtering trees as it went through.

It didn't care. And it was like probably going through them trees like a parkour master, like just grabbing things and move it out. When I seen him flash over that brook, or this one here, I should say, flash over the path, that Uncle's path that dog legs back down. And then over the brook, that's when it was more clear. And this thing was, I'm talking fast. This thing could outrun a deer.

Absolutely no problem. This thing was heels and elbows. Well, we got over to the other one. They're kind of standing 45 angled towards me with the big one, the dark one on the left-hand side. And this one here was smaller, not that much smaller, but smaller. And I'll tell you how big that one, how I had to guesstimate that one there.

But that one was like a cinnamon colored. And this is when I heard them do this stupid chattering murmuring thing that I didn't know what it was until sometime much after that that I heard the Sierra sounds. That's what I witnessed. And it pointed, I don't know if it was chewing the other one out or what it was doing, but it pointed directly towards me. And that little, little one, he looked at me, and he looked a big one. He did a double take on me also. I'm like, well, I kind of got rattled out there, but, you know, that could be what's going on. Like, you know, they're trying to pull me away from, obviously, the kill that they got with the deer.

And he'd made a hand signal to that one to do a, like, a semi-circle. Like, you told somebody to me to go around behind that person over there. but he pointed towards his chest like you go out and around that way and then he pointed to his own chest with right hand and pointer finger again and I'm going to go this way to the left so one swung left one swung right

and I'm just a little bit concerned that for some unknown reason they're going to thank me maybe to watch me so I don't take their deer kill or whatever but I knew I knew that I had to, because I was in awe.

Quite truthfully, I was in awe. And I had to sort of unfreeze myself from that state there because I needed as much information as I possibly could, like this wasn't enough. And I wanted to go over and measure off on the tree, which I did. I walked over to the tree. And no, I didn't get on the ground. People asked that question.

Did you get on the ground? and look for tracks. Nah, you don't see anything coming at you when you're on the ground. Okay. You've got to be standing up if you want to see something plowing through the woods coming straight at you like it means business. But I found my marker on the tree, that little piece of moss. And I, today I'm a butcher.

So I can make some type of measurements. But I stood next to the tree, measured myself off with my hand on the tree, took a half a step back so I could leave my hand on the tree and I measured up from my hand with my other hand and I come up with 7 foot 8 inches tall and I guesstimate

this being which had blue eyes by the way for everybody listening I think there's only two more accounts that are out there or three of them that are you know blue eyed but they had blue eyes

and I figured it somewhere is north of 500 pounds in excellent shape and when I say excellent shape I'm sure that if it wanted to it could have just picked me up and used me as a spear

and I'm 6 foot 3 and probably at that time I weighed 200 pounds anyways I was younger back then in better shape but I figured I weighed like 200, 2009 pounds somewhere around there. But I could guarantee you that this thing could easily grab, you know, even grab like the Hulk, you know, the wrestler, the Hulk, and just throw him completely out of a ring.

These things are just super, super big. That's pretty much it, Jeremiah. Again, who was that? I'm going to actually tell us to who was going to listen to something like this. Right. It's an incredible one. What kind of facial emotions did it have while it was making all those hand gestures towards me?

That's an excellent question. That's a really excellent question. And nobody has ever asked that question before. And this has been out there for about four years now just so your listeners can understand this, how long it took me to come forward with this. If you can picture a teacher in first grade, we'll say, even in second grade, if they're good at their job when they're teaching something, they look at their student, like they're looking for that flash, like that light to go on.

That's what it was like. It was looking at me from the beginning like, hold on a second here, you know, until it started doing all the hand gestures. It was a peaceful encounter. It was, what you call it, like a teaching moment in a way. It wanted me to know its intentions, and it did that very well. That's the way that it looked at me. I don't know if that is a good example or not,

but when you look at a kid and you kind of like, you're waiting for that light to go on. Like, do you understand? And then when the light goes on, you continue from there. Wow, so it was definitely trying to, it was hoping that you maybe would get what it was trying to convey through the hand motions. I would take away from that. Is what you saw, would you, are you able to put it in a, in a category of more something that was more human or more ape? Or was it its own special sort of thing?

That's great. Yeah. We have a lot of things that happen to us when we have trauma or anything like that. It's called Uncanny Valley. Right. And it's crazy when you hear people, you know, they're adamant. They're very sure themselves on something like this. But keep in mind, you're looking at time, you're looking at distance, you're looking at

light and conditions, you're looking at uncanny Valley. Things like that. And then you're looking at the description that people might say, well, its nose was like, ape-like. So now we've got that whole thing, maybe program into our head. It's ape-looking. Now, I can tell you right now, what I was looking at is if you looked up kind of like a solo man,

which hardly anybody's ever heard of, but if you look up like a solo man, it's like a cross between a caveman, a Neanderthal, a Native American because of the chief. beak bones and stuff and an African-American with the skin tone and the nose that it was kind of flattened out just a little bit, just a little bit. You know, so it was like stepping through. And I had a chance. I actually was able to speak with this gentleman.

His name is Chief Ernest. And I won't get into the whole story of how I got to speak with him. but this is what we were talking about. And he said that I walked in two worlds. I walked through the bail or whatever. I never understood any of that. But if we were to accept just for a moment in our minds, it was possible to do anything like that.

And that's the question that he asked me. Did I notice anything around me that was different or the color tones or anything like that? this was like this thing looked like it belonged in a museum that's all I can tell people it looked like it belonged in a museum it was it was like uh um if if if you if you knew something was missing how could how but you didn't know what it was how could you say it was missing so we we have we have uh the missing link how do you know that How do you know there's not more closer related to us?

This thing, quite obviously, looked more, way more human, way more human than ape. The hands, everything about it, way more human than an ape. I don't know if that explains it well enough for you, but yeah. I'm looking at, it's really weird because I'm looking at a pitcher, like a, it's probably museum exhibit of what solo man is. And it's wild how the face I'm looking at fits a lot of the encounter descriptions that I've taken from over the years. It's nuts, dude. Yeah. And people throw these things out because of their bias. A lot of times they don't remember. That's why I've stuck around for so long, because I've always felt that I had some.

pertinent information that I hear a lot of people say, what would you do if you came across when you're walking down the trail? You're actually out looking for them. You're walking down the trail and you've seen one. And they said, well, I would, you know, poop my pants or whatever. I'd turn and run away. How about the next thing is communication? Remember this.

This didn't really know what I really, it knew what I was, but it wasn't sure because it did that double take on me. It was coming over to check me out too. So when we think of it that way there, our next step should be communication. Now, this didn't know if I knew us, Sasquatch language or forced people language or Samurai Chatter. This wasn't, I don't, wouldn't think that it was, I'm not thinking that it ever used mind talk with me. It was using sign language. they traded with Native Americans

what kind of sign language it was pretty pretty easy pretty permanent would be something that I would be probably teaching a child you know no no no no with my finger or whatever you know or give it here or whatever things like that but yet people

throw that that will throw that description out when I say if I say Neanderthal you can throw a solo man in there you know it's not Neanderthal but it still is Neanderthal, but it's not. You know, and it's as pretty, pretty close as much as you can possibly get.

The skin tone was, that's what everybody actually puts in there also the skin tone on top of that. And the nose, you know, in the, in the brow ridge, you know. The hair length varies a little bit, but the hair length is going to vary with distance and time. and how much light you actually have that's out there because I can tell you right now that when that other one met up with the big one there when the cinnamon color one, I couldn't really make out facial features on it.

Okay? Even though I've been all through this already, I could not really make out facial features on that one at 55, 60 yards out. I couldn't do that. Nor could I make out where the hair actually started and stopped. But when it was standing next to me, its skin blended in so well with its hair that exactly where you have hair like on the backs of your hand, it's exactly in the same position as theirs, except that it's longer. Okay.

So you take like ashy colored skin that's dark, dark, dark, dark brown or whatever you want to say that it is. I'm a hair colored blind. and you had you had six inches to that hair on there and it is hair then you're going to you're going to see that boy you really can't tell at a good distance how much hair it actually has on his face or its whole body you know that's how well that it blends in I'd say this too as I've heard other encounters I've got some friends and that's how this is basically how we met of having counters. It was clean.

This thing didn't stink. It was clean. Its hands were clean. Like it had gone down to the reservoir and taken a bath. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer.

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but maybe everything happens for a reases. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heightened taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show everything happens for a recess. And I've heard encounters where people have actually seen one with a juvenile in like a creek or whatever, actually like playing around, bathing. Why wouldn't they? You know, some animals do get in the water.

Might not be bathing, but, you know, they get in the water. Why wouldn't he get in the water? I think they know the difference. This is smart enough to actually try to communicate with me. Then quite obviously, we're underestimating them quite a bit. You know, when people say, you know, geez, you know, do you, I've heard all kinds of ideas on how many are out in the woods and this and that. I've also seen handprints where it's actually grabbed the side of the hillside

where the people that did the handprint to casting said, well, it has short thumbs, not like ours. Well, it grabs something. You didn't get a complete casting of that, you know? There's still a lot of things out there about these beings. I think, personally, they have something to give to us. It's very spiritual. You know, Native Americans have talked about this,

that in the final days, they refer to being as Big Brother will come again to dance around the sacred fire one more time before, like, the final battle. Are you for real, dude? For real? Yes. I've never heard that. Wow. Really?

Well, yeah. Oh, man. It is. And that's why the opening into that sacred space at a powwow is always facing in the same direction no matter where you go in the world. He will come again. And for me, from what I've learned through people like Ron Moorhead, and people I won't go totally into it, and he talks about the quantum physics and everything.

And then we just had somebody just passed over, gosh, I... Henry Franzenone. Yes, sir. Yeah. He talks about it. And I've been in this... Miss him. I've been, yeah, I've been in this position now for 38 years.

And I just came out a couple of years ago to talk about it because I have a message to give. And for people to throw it away, it's like stop you banging on the trees. It's foolishness. They want nothing to do with us because we are warlike. We cannot be trusted. But once you, once you, they trust you, then they trust you. And then they have something to give to you. and it would probably be something you just take to your grade with you

because nobody's ever going to believe it. Okay, I believe strongly. It's a very spiritual thing. Now, Chief Ernest told me, and this is a little bothersome, that they have always known me, they have always been around me, and I assure you when I think back in my past in a childhood, yeah, even though I was unaware, I am aware of a lot of, of things today and they said they have always protected me from what that's what i want to know

from yeah from what yeah there can only be one thing i could guess exactly yep so wow yeah that's that's incredible um it it's just it is really interesting because i've i've done this show for more than a few years And I have noticed there's a big trend in the last, especially half a year where the people I've been talking to, almost all of them have brought up some form of there was a communication, started communicating to me. I started to get some form of mind speak. And it's like these people I talk to are from all different sorts of life, parts of the U.S. And it's just, it's a very, very interesting commonality that's starting to come out through all the different people that I talk to. So I'm not sure what to make of it. Well, I can tell you there's a lot of things that go on.

And I don't want to say community or anything like that. You know, we don't want to put things in people's heads. But I've been pushing this very strongly, very strongly for four years now. And people are becoming more aware of a simple hand gesture. like crossing the road, maybe drop your hand and put your palm towards the car. It's done that. So now people are actually thinking back on their encounters, you know, before they weren't. Four years ago, when we go back in our archives, we find people saying they're 12 feet tall or 15 feet tall or even 25 feet tall.

Right. You know, what did you measure them on? You know, that was my main concern is I needed taking as much information as I possibly could. Now, you're actually hearing people say they're seven and a half feet tall. Well, okay, okay. But I'm sure you probably have heard my story, okay, some of these people. And how did you measure that? What did you measure it on and how did you measure that item in itself?

Um, Sabilla Irwin is the one who, who, uh, I did a show with. Okay. And she did all, she did all the artwork in that show. It's called Sasquot uses sign language. And it was beautifully done. It took her months and months, two to three times a week of her and I speaking back and forth. And she was just blown away by the blue eyes because how do you describe that?

But now today I can describe that. I can tell you, look at a husky. The husky blue, the husky blue. It's like unmistakable, you know. So anyways, you have these, you have all kinds of people who pick up little things, and now they're becoming more aware of that. Of course, we do have the hoaxers out there, the fakers, the people who want to be the probey in the local bike club, okay?

And they just want to be because they never belong to anything else. And that's okay. That's fine. you know, to go out there in camp and to give you a huge idea of what it is out there with, with the groups and everything, that they all walked around in the woods, but not a single one of them that I know of actually carries a survival bag, a go bag, a knapsack, not a one of them. And I just seen a guy fall down a hill 50 feet and tumbled down.

He had his camcorder thing on his head and everything. and I won't say where he's located or anything like that, but I felt bad because he made a joke out of it, and they posted it on one of the forums, and it's like, buddy, you know, you're supposed to, you want people to be following you around or whatever, but man,

if you had broken your spine or your arm or your leg, you're dead man, because you have no way to take care of yourself out there in the woods. And these are essential things that if you're going to go out there, and you're going to prance around the woods, know what you're doing, for God's sake, know what you're doing. And keep in mind, these things are just as intelligent as I'm implying plus more. And do you really think that they really want to be having you as their buddy? you're you're not trustworthy but to go back on the native american prophecy yeah chief ernest told me that

and that blew my mind so i really got really heavy into um prophecies also you know and that one there was um is um what uh what what tribe is chief ernest what what what what what what tribe is chief earnest from specifically? Me. I'm Eurekoy. Oh, gotcha. Okay. Got it.

Yeah. Okay. Your Chief Ernest. No. No, okay. What about, sorry, what about Chief Ernest? Oh, Chief Ernest is the great, great, great grandson. He's still living.

I believe, I want to say sitting ball. Oh, wow. Yes, sir. He's the tribal leader for, I think, three or four nations right now. Oh, wow. And when I met him, yeah, yeah, when I met him, he was, gosh, I want to say he was late 70s. So it was a privilege to meet him.

And then him and I, we got to dance around the sacred fire because it was right before the ceremonies with the combat veterans and everything. So we went out there and I got to dance around the sacred fire with Chief Ernest, you know. he knew about him. My ancestors definitely knew about him. When I go back in my history and I think about areas that we hunted and things that I was told by our hunting party

that they knew, but they didn't want to tell us about it. And I think it was probably all a matter of trust. They had an agreement because I do remember a situation where we were, my great-uncle came back with my father and said, we were asked to leave, you know, and I was like, geez, you know. And it's because we had found these barefoot tracks and everything, but I was a young guy. I was a young, I should say a young boy.

I was, I think I was maybe nine years old, and I was prancing around the woods with a 12-gauge going deer hunting with everybody. So it's something you learned early on on how to track and everything. But indeed, they are definitely that intelligent plus more, you know. Morgan Freeman, there's a movie that Morgan Freeman did. And it deals in, I think the awareness, a lady gets injected with a drug. I don't know if you're familiar with it. And it has to do with the levels of awareness. And like a dog is like a four, an adult.

And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And a human is like, what? An 11 or a 9, and a dolphin is above us. And there's something very special that happens after like level 20. Okay. If you've seen the movies and you know what I'm alluding to here. You got to take a look at it and say, well, what if? I mean, it's either that or when people say their house is haunted,

You got orbs in your house. And why couldn't you have orbs in the woods from all the Native Americans and colonists and everybody else who's passed away in the woods or even the forest people? What if? You know, but then again, back when I started this four plus years ago, four plus short years ago, everybody believed strongly they did not eat meat. They believed strongly that they did not get trees. okay I assure you that they do and if they didn't

if they didn't eat meat and they could poof themselves in and out of a portal then it had no need to run away from me or move away from me or you know

it could take it it could it could just take a deer through a portal or whatever and ghosts don't need to eat meat

true yeah no that's true True. Yeah, you're not going to have, you're not going to eat meat if you're a ghost usually. It's, man, I just have this, over the last few months, I just have this, this theory thought that I can't shake. It's just weird. It's like, what if being around or in close proximity to whatever these individuals are, what if it affects us? us as a human unlocks something, even something that's old or innate and allows us to be able to, and I sound, I'm going to say, I sound crazy for saying this, but it just, it feels like I'm thinking of all the things I've talked to people about, all the different encounters,

there seems to be different commonalities that come out. It's almost like people are able to do things or hear things or interpret things after they have like those interactions. It is just weird stuff, man. I don't know. If I said it was true, would you think I was crazy? I don't know. Not anymore.

Not after Oregon. You think, yeah, and Ron Moorhead doesn't want to say it either, nor did anybody else. I can, I can, I can tell you that, yes. And we don't, some people don't want to talk about it, particularly close up when it was that close. you know, because you can imagine I could have got a drink off or just spot in it

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Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heightened taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show everything happens for a recess. Yeah. Right. It's way beyond that. So now who's going to listen to me, tell them your next step should be communication. People are going to go, no, this ain't just, this just cannot be, if your mind can't wrap on it. Yep. Mm-hmm.

There's something that they have. There's something they can do that's long forgotten. There's something on a spiritual level, highly spiritual, and it's a gift. and yes. Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's something I'm working through. And it's, I don't know, I, I think, I think it's, there's other people that have definitely uncovered that before and definitely Ron Moorhead is, is one of them. And I need to dig more into his stuff.

Yeah, but, Scott Nelson, Scott Carpenter. Oh, yeah. True, yep, yep. And there's a funny thing about that, too, because he was on the same path as me. and one thing that I did notice that a lot of people don't know that the Cherokee language has a lot of letters from the Hebrew alphabet in it. It has a lot of words from the Hebrew language. It also contains some Japanese words, and that's what I picked up on when I very first heard the Sierra sounds. Not every word.

When I heard this out in the woods that morning, that's what I was hearing. and it was just uncanny. It was this, this chatter that, you know, is just weird. But being in the area that I am in now, Ohio, the Ohio Valley, the Great Inland Sea, where the three sons of ham came, I've done a lot of reading. And I tell you right now that this is, in a way, it's kind of biblical. you know in a way and what if what if what if what if what we're fighting is a i'm just throwing it out there for you jeremiah what we're going to be fighting or what we're fighting right now is a spiritual

war and these things being as spiritual as they are maybe that's what they are are eluding to that's a hundred percent a spiritual battle every day 100 exactly yeah there's no question about that dude um so yeah On your level and other people's levels, I'm just saying for them, because the spiritual aspect of this rate here is the man that's doing the research in the area where I had my encounter is he broke off with three of the other guys that he was with, you know, sent them packing. And that was like two years ago or whatever. And he started doing it in a different way. okay they they communicate with you in they can communicate with you in several ways but they are just super spiritual and i think they have something for us that they would like us to learn you know

it would like us to learn it may be beneficial to us that's for another discussion but i think I think I might know that I think I might have in mind the individual you're talking about. We'll talk about it afterwards. You mentioned off-off air, and I don't know if you want to get into this, but you mentioned you were also able to interview multiple other people that have had encounters in the same area as the one you had. Were their encounters similar to yours? There's one man. I cannot find this guy, but I know the story. I know that it's true.

It was probably within, I'd say, a quarter of mile from where I was under the identical circumstances. That he swore, I don't know if he's still living or not, that he swore up and down, that what he's seen tried to use sign language while he was bohunt. and it took a deer right in that same area. Yep. Yep. And then, yep, then the father of the people of the woman I spoke with his daughter to own that apple orchard, he used to travel from his house, the back roads all the way up to Bradley International Airport. And he got right at the base of the mountain right there between Cabo Mountain and Granville, or Cabo Mountain Reservoir and the Grandville.

or Cabo Mountain Reservoir in the Granville Reservoir. And he's seen it come down the side of that mountain and cross the road right directly in front of them. You know, and in his description, given it, even though it was secondhand given to his daughter, was the same description. Wow. Pretty much the same description.

And then I've got several that are pretty much the same. I've got one that there was, I think, three, or four, they're grown-up adults now, kids on the opposite side of that mountain, that's seen the group of them several times on the opposite side of that mountain. And then there's another one that I know that he was a hunting partner with my brother, Fran. And he told me the story of him seeing, I believe, was for them. a male, what appeared to be a male,

a female, and two siblings or two adolescents behind them walk in a fence line, an old, what's called barbed wire,

bench line, pretty much in the same area. I'd say that was probably half a mile from where I was. And then there's a bunch of other things that had happened there, but,

you know, absolutely you know and does the government know about them yeah they sure do yeah absolutely

I know for a fact you know and I'll tell you okay because you can't just say things like that the people nowadays yeah yeah a Kabul Malin Reservoir

they black the whole thing off and you're not supposed to be in there you never were supposed to be in their fishing okay there's two cemeteries in there One they leave on the map, one you might still be able to find, but one they took off the map for obvious reasons. When I tell you what it was, it was called, I believe it was Warfield Cemetery. And it was a black community during the Underground Railroad that made a little, kind of little town in there. Okay.

So they tried to hide it so they can still get money off the federal government by making another cemetery. because they swore they would never tear that down. But you were not allowed in there in that area of fishing or anything. And when I had my store, I knew of a couple of friends that I had that went in near fishing and actually a helicopter came down and got them guys out of there, took them out of there, you know, right off the icy rice fishing or along the shoreline, you know, got them out there. But me thinking, you know, okay, I'm next military. you're going to have a, you're going to have a tough time finding me in here, you know.

Little that I realized that what was about to happen when I went fishing in there with my buddy, my, that I grew up with, as we got in here, we had set up that I made a little lean-to on a side of this ridge line. And we had just pulled back almost sort of a lean-to, and I heard a helicopter coming. So we got way back inside a lean-to. It was really dark, you know, in there because I was underneath a bunch of pines and everything. the helicopter came right down pretty much right in front of us, knew right where we were. There's only one way they could have known that is ground sensors.

And these things were spotted in there. I also have eyewitness accounts of them being spotted in there, which is really not far, half a mile from where I had my encounter or so. So if they knew I was in there with the ground sensors, then you knew anything was in there. You would have known if it was a deer or if it was a bear or a moose or whatever. You knew where we were. so therefore you know those things are there most definitely wow that's that's extremely interesting

this is a part of massachusetts that i didn't really have my eyes on like i've talked to people from uh october mountain and bear mountain up by graham barington like that area is pretty wild but like i never would have thought this area over by i mean it's not really close but like you know westfield springfield but um right so so interesting it's really hard some of the terrain in there you know people say well why don't we why can't we find a Sasquatch body well you know what you ain't going to find out where they buried chief Shakura either up in New Hampshire okay and when you look at it like that is why can't you find these well I can give you two examples one one would be like an analogy that they go where you

don't want you can't go you don't want to go you're afraid to go you're not built to go into those areas. That's where they go and they stay and they'll venture out from there. Now there's a gentleman from Mississippi, I believe it might be Arkansas. But anyways, his name's Earl. And on this episode of plant killers will explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle Grow or organic raised bed and garden soil. It's made with quality organic ingredients from upcycled green waste like compost and aged bark.

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You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a reases. Take noise-canceling headphones. Do they block hearing to heightened taste? Hmm. That sounds seem.

to show everything happens for a recess his grandfather he had his first encounter Earl did on the farm and his grandfather used to feed them watermelons and stuff you know it's kind of like a Mary Green type thing and long story short you know I know his encounter quite well and he's been on a show to give it before but what had happened was his grandfather had passed away and this was just a few years back So Earl decided he's going to go to the farm, you know, and stay at the farm, you know, and, you know, see it one last time and maybe sell the property, whatever. So he gets up in the morning, and this is going to be in relation to why you can't find the body. And he gets up in the morning, and he goes out on the back porch, and there's two watermelons out there on the back porch.

So Earl is like a little bit freaked about it. He said, I've got to go to my grandfather's grave. So he goes to his grandfather's grave, okay, with tombstone. And what do you think he finds around the tombstone? He finds these briars that are like braided, okay, like a tumbleweed around the tombstone. And inside the ring, he finds some apples and pears in a piece of watermelon. Whoa. They're going to put their relatives where you ain't going to find it.

you ain't going to want to find it. Even if you think you found it, you ain't going to want to dig it up in a bunch of briars. Oh, man. That is wild. Wow. Yep. So these are all things that there are no coincidences.

These are things that just present themselves ever since I've had my encounter. I can't get into all of that, but they have a way of presenting themselves. And I know them to be true. Absolutely. Oh, man, this has been a really extremely interesting conversation, Ernie. And I'm just, I'm thankful that you came in. I think we had a really, really eye-opening conversations, especially for listeners. I do want to make sure that we share that you have an interesting side project going on as well, right? Yes, I have one that we, that we, I felt that it was necessary to try to push to people to take that next step on communication. And this is on a site that's called, it's all one word, New England Encounters. Dot itsy.com.

And it's under the heading of Sasquatch uses sign language. And this is pretty much most of the artwork is from the artwork that Sibilla did. on the sign language that this being used with me so you can see it firsthand and perhaps even wear it to communicate with the public what these things can actually do to take a stand with me and you can have any of those sign language things put on anything you want you just send us a message We'll put it on anything because we don't carry a whole lot, you know, and I don't really do the AI thing or anything like that. But some of it might be on there, but you'll know when you see it anyways.

But I just want to get maybe people educated on this and to make a bit of a stand with me and say our next step is communication. And it's going to be with the use of sign language because at 50 yards, you're not going to yell to them. But at 50 yards, you can definitely tell it that you're, it's friend or whatever, you know. That's very cool. Yeah, and I'll have that link in the show notes or the description. So people can definitely go and check that out.

But Ernie, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's been a real privilege to talk to you tonight. Same here. Absolutely. I really enjoyed speaking with you. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can.

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