Bigfoot Society - I Got Zapped in Yellow River / Iowa Bigfoot with Bob Barhite

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

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I talked to Bob Barheight, a Midwest Bigfoot researcher. It's the first time that Bob's ever been interviewed on a podcast, so you won't want to miss this one. You have information about Bigfoot in the same areas that Bob. has please reach out to me immediately after this episode and if you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show please contact me directly at bigfoot society at gmail.com do you get to the end of bigfoot society episodes and wish there is more content well guess what there is if you join the patreon patreon.com forward slash the bigfoot society we have extra episodes every week and some episodes have a extended strange days

portion where we talk about the weirdness outside of bigfoot in the interviewee's life That sounds like a good time to you. You'll want to check it out. But now, let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Bob Barheight today. He's a Midwest-based Bigfoot researcher with the BFRO. And it's a pleasure to talk to you tonight, Bob.

Oh, that's my pleasure. Sounds like this is going to be fun. Oh, yeah. It's going to be a good one. You know, I'm based just outside of West Des Moines, kind of Western Iowa. So there's not many people to talk to out there about Iowa in Midwest, Big, foot and we have a mutual connection. I think we both know Ontario Richardson.

Yes. So we we had a nice chat during our last expedition about your name came up a few times. So I was like, yeah, I've got to talk to Bob if I can if I can do that eventually. So I'm glad that this this happened. But Bob, you know, I'd love to to ask you, what was it that got you into this whole wild Bigfoot thing to begin with? The legend of Boggy Creek. I saw that when it first came out with my group of friends

and we slept for two days with the lights on. And it was awesome. I think we were eight years old, maybe, 10, something like that. But it was wonderful. And then we used to order books once a month through our grade school, Scholastic Reader. And they had tons of Bigfoot books and UFOs and sharks. And I still have a bunch of them, too, to this day.

but I was hooked. It was a lot of fun reading it, and I had the opportunity in a speech class, my sophomore year in high school, to interview a guy up in northeast Iowa where I grew up. He must have been pushed in 80. They didn't even have running water in the house. He had a siding back in the Depression.

So it was about 45 years before I interviewed him. He had one on his farm. It was really cool to talk to this guy. Wow, that was Northeast Iowa. Right. Yep. Up in the northeast corner. Oh, man.

Do you remember many details about that? Absolutely. He was out clearing stumps in spring, and there was a stump on the edge of his field that he didn't recognize, and it was right where there's a bunch of woods. And he started driving his tractor over to it, and the stump got up and walked away. He said it was all brown, and he thought it was just some hobo, but it was. too big. My history is a little rusty, but this is 20s? I think it was about 31, 32 when he saw it.

There's a lot of Bigfoot stuff up in the Northeast, as people may be aware. If they've, you know, if you've watched the Finding Bigfoot Iowa episode, then you know about Yellow River and all that good stuff. Was this in an area where it's still known for Bigfoot to this day, or was it? kind of like a one-off. No, it's an area north of Yellow River. I think fairly close to French Creek and back in the woods in there. So yeah, it's still active. Interesting.

And then so after you did that, did things just keep escalating? And you were like, wow, this is kind of interesting or? Well, then, so that was my sophomore year in high school, which would have been 79. Life kind of took over and I saw. the show finding Bigfoot and went out to the website and by guy you know they had expeditions and I signed up for the first one 2012 so that's the first time I really ever did anything with the BFRO hold on hold on but I'm missing a big connection here that I just realized so this is 79 that you interviewed a guy about Bigfoot in northeast Iowa and so do you mind if I ask like

where you're based out of at this time? This time is over in the driftless region just west of Madison. Okay, so you're in Wisconsin or Iowa? I'm in Wisconsin. I grew up in Waukaon, Wauk on Iowa, not too far from where, like Yellow River, French Creek,

Upper Iowa River, all that. Okay, so at this time, did you have any connections with guys that were also interviewing people in Iowa? No. So there's this big gap at time. We had kids, moved all over the country, lived out in Oregon for a while, but the Bigfoot thing really never came up. And move back to the Midwest in 1998.

And you'd hear a little flashes. My sister still lives in Waukong. So, you know, she'd mentioned something about Bigfoot or, like, you know, your friends still see it once in a while. Sure, okay. And I just got curious. Most of the show hit in early 2000s, right around that, that I just started watching it. And it was a lot of fun.

The reason I brought that question up is that at the same time, so one of my really like, I guess you could almost say, my Roman Empire is 1970s Bigfoot Iowa history. Yeah, it's wild. So at the same time that you were having that interview, there was a group of guys in Iowa called the Iowa Bigfoot Information Center. And that's a whole side thing. But it's kind of cool that you were doing your own thing.

You interviewed a guy about Bigfoot in 79. At the same time, there were a bunch of other dudes that were looking into things like the Lockridge Monster Case, other things in Southeast Iowa, the peliciting, Humboldt County. sightings. There's a lot of crazy stuff as you're already probably aware of in the 70s in Iowa. It got really crazy. But there's other episodes that you can listen to listeners if you haven't where I talk about that at a lot.

So finding Bigfoot got you all into it. And then after that, you've really got into, I mean, you got into quite a bit of Bigfoot expeditions. It looks like your resume is pretty well. wild. I mean, you did stuff in Iowa. I want to say you did stuff in Minnesota. Or it says throughout the Midwest in Oregon, public and private expeditions. You've been all over the place. Were they public expeditions out in Oregon? Yeah, that was a public expedition in 2013 on the south side of Mount Hood. Wow. And that was really cool. We were following up on a report. this hunter and his son had, they were out scouting.

And, yeah, they were hassled for about five hours by a couple bigfoots. Can you elaborate what hassled would mean? Sure. Yeah. So they were out archery hunting. And they were, they initially heard this nondescript mumbling. And the dad described it as like two mutes or too hard of hearing people trying to talk to each other. And he went to sleep.

The son heard footsteps around the tent. And he saw this hand pressed down toward his father's face. Dad was snoring really loud. So he thought the son thought that whatever was outside was curious. So the kid screamed, and the kid, 19-year-old kid, screamed. The hand disappeared. Dad woke up, and that's when the fun started because they could hear things walking around, mumbling to each other.

what was really interesting is when the hand was pulled away, they both described the sounds they heard is like the same sound that dad makes to his kid when the kid does something dumb. So it's like, Dad Bigfoot was chastising the small one or the youth Bigfoot for putting his hand close to a person's face. It finally ended when they both had to go to the bathroom and they ran up, they went outside.

and the dad shined this flashlight and probably 20 feet away there is a good eight foot tall big foot standing there. It didn't move. All it did was turn its head and block the light with his hands. And that that's it. We're going. So they threw everything at the back of their truck and they just raced away. Wow. That is fantastic.

Did you find anything when you guys went out there? Yeah, we found a trackway behind where the base camp was. It had gone up the side of the hill, which was kind of brushy so you can see the indentations. And then it came back down, the others back down to this one track road, two-track road that it had been following it looked like. The day before the expedition, before I got there, they had a visual siding out in a clear cut of a Sasquot. standing on two tree stumps and it didn't notice they were driving up on it coming around this logging road until it was 100 feet away. It saw it and it kind of did like Chris Farley hop and then it just ran away. So they nicknamed that one Tommy Boy.

That's the greatest thing I've heard in five years. Yeah. And it was plausible because I know the investigator pretty well. And we didn't have much go on until the last night of the expedition. Then we had eye glow and there was something in the brush watching us because we did this big cookout thing. And it was good. At the very least, it was very scenic. And I really enjoyed meeting a whole different group of people than I'm used to hang it out with.

Absolutely. So that was the Oregon trip. And then you've had, it sounds like multiple expeditions in the Midwest. Are there any things that stick out in your mind about things you've experienced over the years from those Midwest expeditions that you could share? Oh, man. How much time do we have? Oh, right. Yeah.

Yeah, the very first expedition I went on in 2012. It was the Wednesday before. I normally wouldn't like people coming in really, but they allowed me to come in. Got there about 7 o'clock and got everything set up. And a couple hours later, three of us. went out to examine this horse trail that they've always wanted to go on. So we walked the horse trail and that it empties into the back of a field. We walked the edge of the field to where it drops down where a creek is.

So we were just hanging out there. And within two minutes, three minutes, really quick, we all saw it at the same time, these two red glowing dots off to our left and about 10 o'clock high, so up above head height. And over the course of about 30 seconds, those two dots slowly looked like it went into the ground, moved left or right and then down. And they were really high for, yeah, that's eye glow. We saw eye glow. And we went back the next day because nobody could figure out why it disappeared into the ground. We went back and whatever was there, you could see where grass had been pressed down. It walked down. It walked

on the side of a gully. And that's how it made its escape away from us. That's wild. Within 20 minutes of the first time I ever went out, you know, it's like hitting a home run the first time you're up to bat in the major leagues. There's been a lot of IGLO stuff going on. We did an expedition up in Yellow River. where there was a large group when we got split.

We were split up. And I was with some seniors who were in a women's choir from Chicago. And we stopped and let them catch their breath. And they started singing. And just talking, they, you know, breaking all the rules. We want some quiet. You know, we want to see what's going on. So they're just talking away, gap, gap, yap.

and from a top of hill right across us these two white spots appear really close together and slowly it came down the hill toward us and the spots got further apart until you can see in the center of the two white spots the black pupil or what appears to be a pupil and then there was eye glow that came around our left and our right so they were trying to out flank us And that went on for about 20 minutes. It was the most impressive display I've ever seen. So you're, it sounds like you're saying those were eyes. Right.

It's our understanding. And I know it's kind of hard to believe, but their eyes somehow are emit light. Yeah. I don't, you know, it's not like it's a flashlight, although I've seen the flashlight effect before. but I don't know. We're thinking that at least a group I'm with, that it's a way to communicate over distance without making a sound. So, you know, one big foot could be on one ridge and one on the other side

and one eyes go, you know, are white and kind of blank and like, oh, there's Fred over there. Just a way to communicate and be silent. That is very interesting. You said that that was in, I guess, your first one, was that in Iowa? Yeah, the first one was in Fayette County. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. That's why you change your own oil.

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Yep. Okay, very nice. I talked to a gentleman a few years ago, and he shared what was the weirdest story that I've ever heard. One of the weirdest stories I've ever heard. I've heard a few, but this was out of backbone in Iowa. And I'm just curious if you've ever heard of it as well. There's a gentleman who said that there was a group of them and they saw like blue lights,

blue orbs, and they were looking at the oars, and they looked behind them and there was a big foot that seemed to be controlling it. Is that anything that you've ever heard of? I haven't heard that, but man, backbone is such a great place. Oh, really? We did an expedition there. Yeah, it was about this time. It was about this time of year. And last night of the expedition, it had been active.

We had all kinds of tree knocks. We had vocalizations. It was perfect. And there's an old fish hatchery in backbone. And about 25 of us were there. We were just kind of meeting up to see what was going to go on for the rest of the night. And then there's this the loudest tree knocking. I've ever heard.

It was like a Barry Bond's home run within 100 feet of us. And you could hear everybody just gasp. And there was an investigator standing right behind me, and he about plowed me over trying to get out of there. It was just a spectacular noise. Wow. So yeah, backbone's a great place to go.

I enjoy it. I believe I've heard a lot of people in that particular area, they'll get almost escorted out of the park or? Yeah. Yeah. We have that. So a group of three guys were up in this one spot in the park and one of them did a whoop. And then off in the distance, they heard the foop come back.

That's pretty cool. A couple minutes later, it was closer. Another whoop. A couple minutes after that, it was like right on top of them. And they just, and these are seasoned investigators. They just turned and like bolted out. Because it was spring. So they were thinking, well, maybe it's mating season.

Maybe we said, hey, baby, what's up? Right. Hopefully not. Yeah, not a way to, not a fun way to go out, I suppose. But I was right. So for among people that really care about Iowa Bigfoot research, which there's not a lot of us, or at least not a lot I know. It seems like a question that always comes up is,

which one do you think is more squatchy? Backbone or Yellow River? I would say Yellow River. But personally, I haven't been over there in four or five years to check it out. We didn't exactly want to give it up for finding Bigfoot because it had been so active. But, you know, once the show comes out, you can't really control who goes.

in there and what they do. But I do have a friend that occasionally goes in there, and he was there at the end of March, and it was, at least in his opinion, it was starting to get active again. There were tree structures. There were a couple of hoops, you know, take it as you want. But, yeah, he thinks it's becoming active again. When you've been out looking, have you ever heard any sounds that don't seem to fit the location that you're at?

Yeah. I think the best examples are just having my jam block, which is a percussion instrument for jazz, and I use that for a tree dock. Having that mimic back at me is a very specific ping. And I've never heard it outside of me hitting the jam block and having it come back at me. That's just one example.

we've had whoops which don't sound like, you know, like an owl or a loon. They don't sound like a coyote or a wolf or any other critter that lives in the woods. So those are unusual. I think they're really unusual ones, those, when you do a knock and you get that back and then you do a couple more knocks and you get the exact number of knocks back at you. Yep. I'd have had that happen a couple of times up northeast Iowa as well. Have you ever heard anything like a car door or rusty gate?

Yes. Really? Thank you. Yes. Oh, boy. I've heard that twice in Fayette County. First expedition, we went, I took a guy down in where I was, where we had the eye glow and we went back in there. And we heard the car radio effect, like chattering.

But there's no radio anywhere near us. What can you? There's no road. Sorry, car radio effect. I've never heard of that before. Okay. It sounds like a distant car radio, but there's no, there's nothing around. There's no car where we were standing.

It would have to have been like a 100 watt, like a mini who concert going on for us to hear a car radio. Sure. There's no houses. There's no other people in there that we knew of, know of. It just sounded like somebody was playing music. You couldn't quite make out the words. And then we heard chattering when we were checking out the same location about three years later right at the end of March. And we were walking up to the main campsite.

And all along on one side, we kept hearing sound like a radio like somebody was trying to talk on a radio to us the whole way up to where we were going. It's just there's nobody that had a radio on. Nobody had a walkie-talkie. That's the best way to describe it as somebody's trying to talk to you. Rusty Gate, yeah. I've had that actually not that far from Madison in Blue Mountain State Park for the Wisconsin listeners, which is a small park, but there's been, I've had quite a bit of activity in there. I've had stuff thrown at me and eye glow and seeing shadows out in the distance on the horizon moving around.

But yeah, they sound like a gate. swinging like you described it. Now, do you have any explanations for that? Because let's say, I know this gets brought up in a few paranormal, like not so much Bigfoot podcast, but paranormal ones. And they want to say like, okay, maybe it's a portal. Maybe there's something dog man related. So it kind of comes up sometimes in Bigfoot conversations as well.

my hunch would be that they're mimicking sounds as a diversion trying to get our attention away from something going on either behind us or off to one side. That's consistent with having stealth thrown at me from behind, that there's something more active. It's like they want me to turn around and look at them because there's something out in front of me they don't want me to see, whether it's like a juvenile or something. something else, but that's my feeling. That's my suspicion. Another interesting thing that has been mentioned in two different parts of the U.S. recently, Eli Watson talks about it in an Olympic project doc. He just did where it almost sounds like there's some sort of singing. And then Alton Higgins also says that he heard that in the area X area on their podcast. Is that anything that you've ever.

heard anything where it almost sounds like there's some singing in the background or anything close to that? Yeah, that would have been the radio effect. Oh, yeah. It just sounded like a distant car radio like there's a song on. We were conversing beforehand and you mentioned the driftless region, which from what I'm aware, that is northeast Iowa, a lot of the western side of Wisconsin and a, A little bit of the southeast corner of Minnesota. Is that correct? Correct.

Yeah, and it goes down into Illinois, like around Dubuque, across the river and Galena, down that side, too. But most of it's in northeast Iowa, southeast Minnesota, and especially in Wisconsin. So a lot of listeners, and I did this before I moved out here, too. You think of the Midwest in Iowa as cornfields and the field of dreams. it's important to know that places like the Driftless region exist. And would you be able to explain why that region is important, especially when it comes to Bigfoot research? Right.

So the Driftless region exists because the last round of glaciers missed it. So instead of getting scraped down like Western Iowa, it's this area that's kind of lost in time. steep hills, underfed streams. It's just amazing. It's heavily wooded. It has low population and it has an abundance of food. You've got deer.

You've got all kinds of fishing going on in the trout streams and the cornfields that they still grow in there, you know. It's a great place to go if you don't want to be seen. You can follow rivers. You can follow streams through the woods, obviously, and just never be seen by anybody. So you have means of escape. So if you're a bipedal, eight-foot-tall creature, critter, critter, if you're something like that, and you want to move and not be seen northeast Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, best place to go.

The reports that come out of the northeast part of the state are wild. And these are things that I get every once in a while directly to me. I mean, Debutte County, for sure, all the time. People are bringing up DeBue County, Little Makota River. It just sounds like if all these people are legit, like there's a lot of action going on in the Dubuque County area. Right. I've helped investigate an area just south of the mines of Spain. It was great.

We've gone in there a couple of times. The investigation we were doing, it was a father and his kids. And it was kind of late fall. We were standing on the side of a hill. And there's this spot where there's these couple of boulders, just, you know, still sitting there. And we're all kind of waiting around seeing what's happened. All of a sudden, we all see this thing swirl. and our first thought was,

it was an owl taken off, but it was a branch about three feet in size, not like a baseball bat, and whatever through it had to throw it downward over the top of these boulders, which are about six feet tall.

Something very tall through it. It wasn't like a tree branch breaking because it twirled in the air. You know, like you throw a branch sidearm. Same effect. It swirled and landed about 10 feet from us. And there's been other sightings down in there. We've had the flashlight effect on our way out, which is like the eye glow is so strong that it's looking at a base tip of a tree and you can see it. And it looks like somebody's trying to a flashlight of the ground.

Really? Yes. It's a great place. And little McCook, the whole area up there is a place that needs to be investigated more. thoroughly than it is right now. Have you ever heard of anything coming out of the Makota Caves area? Yeah, I've heard a couple reports. I'm not sure if they came in through the message board from the BFRO or if they were just

stuff that I've picked up on Facebook or other podcasts. But yeah, there's been stuff that's happened in there. And I've always meant to go and spend a weekend down there, but it hasn't quite come to fruition yet. Gotcha. There's a question that I want to make sure that I asked. This is from Scott from the Patreon. It has to do with when you do investigations. When doing investigations, are there any techniques and cues that help establish the integrity and truthfulness of the witness?

Sure. Face-to-face contact is one, embellishing a story. So the more they tell up, the more details the person to remember, you know, adds to it. before we even call anybody, you know, that submitted a report, we check out the weather, we check out time of day, the location that they try to give in the report.

Sometimes they're very exact. Sometimes they're not. Just the veracity of the report, I guess, you know, because we get all kinds. We get reports from people who, I've got a Sasquatch living in my basement. Okay. Thanks for letting us know. All the way up to people who've written like two or three pages in Word

and copied and pasted it into the report. And there's way too much detail for somebody to remember. It reads more like a short story. And then we get the reports like the gentleman out in Oregon with his son and having talked to him and listened to him tell the story, his body language, how he reacted, how his son, You can see his son visibly become upset. If you want something done right, you do it yourself.

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Again, based on time of day and weather conditions and, you know, moon. I hope that answer the question for him. I'd say that that's a really good answer for sure. And a lot of that, I'm like, yep, I know exactly what you're, what you're, talking about because it kind of goes over to when I talk to people for this. You had mentioned that there was a situation where you took a friend to an active location and then something kind of funny happened. Oh, yeah.

So again, that was in Blue Mountain State Park. It was about 9 o'clock at night and a group of my, like three people and myself, a guy and his girlfriend, another guy in me. We had dinner together and, you know, they just, there's no such thing as Bigfoot. And they're just kind of egging beyond. Let's go see what happened. Let's go see where you go.

All right. So about 15-minute drive when we were and we park on the side of the road and everybody gets out. Overcast night, a little bit of a chill in the air, damp, it had rained. And I do a high-pitched spook. And immediately from the woods behind us, the hoop comes back at us. And from right in front of us, whatever it was, mimic my hoop, my hoop right back at us again. And they just piled in the car. Well, we got to go.

It's like, come on, the show's about to begin. But, you know, they wanted to go. So I had to take them home. But it was, that was fun. That's just, man, that blows my mind. And you just, you hear situations like that over and over. It's like someone wants to get into the situation and then something happens and you're like, we got to get out of here.

It's like, dude, why did you even like? And I mean, I get it. I've experienced some weird stuff in Iowa. I haven't. Well, let's see. Tree pushed over wood knocks. But I heard whoops in my tent. I guess nothing that would really scare me yet.

I mean, it was all really cool. Had it happened with a guy who active military, we were down in Fayette County. And we were walking this dead end road that goes to a bridge. And we get to the spot where there's water that trickles down the side of a hill. And you can stop. And I tell him, you know, this is a spot where stuff usually happens. And he looks at the hill and said,

What are all those white lights looking at us? Yeah, they're checking us out. He turns around and wants to leave right away. I've seen it. Wow. Yeah, I mean, for some people, that is enough, you know, they're out. Have you ever had a situation where you've actually had a visual or what do you feel that the closest you've been able to come to one would be?

Good question. So when we did an expedition in Iowa in, I think it was 2014, in Fayette County, we do a big cookout. When we were doing this up by West Union, there's a park that was built by a civilian conservation corps during World War, right before World War II. And everybody was in the shelter and they were eating and having fun. and I was just standing out on the periphery of it just watching this area down below us. And I saw something very tall, all one color, stride between two trees and just stop. And we knew where everybody was at the time. So it wasn't anybody in our group.

And it was uniform in color. It was tall and it was thin. And this was mid-April, late April again. To my satisfaction, yeah, I can say I've seen a Sasquatch. I've had shadows. I've been with another investigator in Fayette County standing on a dead end road and the bridge there. And we both have seen something big and white move between a couple of rocks on the river. So I've had, I haven't had.

have the classic Patterson Gimlin road crossing hi how you folks doing i'm just go look away type type thing but i've had to my satisfaction i i can say i've seen something that i can't identify that's that's really cool though maybe someday i will get to that we will see just need to get more out on the field another question that comes up in iowa bigfoot circles is everything good has happens east of Des Moines. How do you feel about that? Well, being from northeast Iowa. Right. Yeah. I can see that. I don't, you know, I'm more familiar with the eastern part of the state. I've driven to like Omaha and around there. And I went to school in Mason City. So it's not as heavily wooded. It's more, it's flatter. You still have some rolling hills.

I wouldn't say that's 100% correct because as you get closer to Missouri from Des Moines, there's activity down there. So we've had reports of rocks hitting cars. You know, people have been just out, just stopped on the side of the road. And this guy had a windshield cracked by a rock that kept flung at him. Oh, wow. So I wouldn't say it's 100% accurate that the good stuff happens east of Des Moines, but definitely. If you're in Des Moines and you want to check out stuff, find a county park that's out in the middle of nowhere. Just look for water and look for trees.

Google Maps, best friend you can have. Yeah, and that actually leads to a good question. So, and you may have just answered that what are your factors you look for? If let's say you're in a new area, new state, and all you've got is like you're using your map, what are the main things? that you're looking for to find the places? I look for a few roads. So not like Western Iowa, where you have crossroads about every half mile,

quarter mile, something like that. So it's not checkerboard like that. But you look for trees, you know, woods. You look for water. And just like, it was a good example of the state forest. Up in northern Wisconsin,

and you'd look for areas where it hasn't been heavily clear cut yet, where there's still older trees, 50, 60, 70-year-old trees and haven't been cut down. But there's ponds in it, for example, and not very many people. And for me, that's a good place to start. Gotcha. Do you ever focus on what the annual amount of rainfall is? Not exclusively. Okay.

I look more towards when, when does spring start coming in? When does winter come in? What are the temperatures? I've had activity again at Blue Mountain State Park in Wisconsin during heavy drought. It's a constant source of water. So if there's no rain, there's a lot harder to find water. So you find the water and wait for them. They're going to show up.

Sure. Has there ever been a time when you were either like, you know what, This is too intense. If I could get out of here right now, I would. Or have you ever heard of anything reported to you from someone else that was like, wow, if that happened to me, I would be like, I'm out. Well, I think the guy in Oregon and his son had a tent stock, that would, yeah, I'm out. But yeah, personally, Fayette County again, first time I ever went out by myself. And it was a Memorial Day weekend.

and I got into the park really late. It was like 1130 already at night, and I had to park and walk into the same spot where I initially saw Eyeglow, the very first time I ever went out and made my way down in there. And I thought it was in there for like two or three hours, and I got a videotape camera going, an old Sony with Night Vision, and I hear something rustling to my left and I look over. And whatever it was, it was kind of standing.

down in a ravine, but it was almost my height. And when I look at the video, you can kind of make out of face, but you can definitely see the shape of the head and the eyes. And it kind of is swaying back and forth. And sometimes the discretion is a better part of valor. So I got out of there really fast. Yeah. And I went back and when I did watch the tape, I was only in there maybe 20 minutes.

but time-wise, when you're standing in kind of like up against a pine tree, time stops. Right. Yep. You made the right choice probably getting out of there. That sounds pretty interesting. That was intense. Yeah. Have you ever had any discussions with DNR officials or the equivalent of such about Bigfoot?

Yes. In Wisconsin, I had a good DNR connection. they would field reports and just put them in a, like their equivalent of the dead letter office, just put them in a drawer. And he would give me some. You know, he'd give me the better ones or the ones that the DNR themselves had. Specifically, it was up around the Wisconsin Dells several years ago. DNR guy out, he found tracks about eight feet apart.

So something very tall walked through this freshly maintained gravel road and you can easily see the footprints. He said, huge stride. Whatever it was was very tall. You know, you can't rule out basketball player from the UW coming up to the Dells. But they get reports. They don't follow up on them. Let's put them away. How does one go about starting that type of connection?

because that's an incredible thing to have going on. I met him through his wife. We would, there's a place in Mount Horace, where we would go, you know, spend the evening. And once he got comfortable enough knowing me, we had other hobbies that we enjoyed. He's a big hockey fan. I love hockey. he teaches snowboarding. I don't snowboard.

I just plummet. We would chat. Once he trusted me enough, that's when he started giving reports. So it's usually, it's like a second hand connection, I guess, you could say.

Gotcha. For me, it seems like it's the best way. Just coming up and approaching a DNR officer, hey, what you got for Bigfoot? Right. Yeah,

that never goes well. No. Usually doesn't work, guys. Don't do it. Do you have any like Bigfoot stuff on your vehicle? I have one tiny sticker on the back window. It's there along with the American Needs Farmer sticker University of Iowa, a twins and a Viking. So yeah, everybody knows I'm certifiable.

Nice. Has having that sticker led to any people coming up to you or anything interesting at that? I've been waived at. Somebody would pass me and wave. Yeah. Maybe I was just going to the speed limit and they didn't like it, but they would wave. But people coming up and wanting to talk, no. And I kind of like it that way.

Gotcha. You know. Have you ever had anything happen in the Kettle Marine area of Wisconsin? We had an expedition in the Southern Marine, South Moraine. Apparently I picked a, bad weekend because there were some stock car races or tractor pull or something going on that was relatively close. I haven't had anything happen, but the northern brain would be my preference to go to. There's a fire tower. There's a loop that has a fire tower on it. And that is one of the

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Is that Jay Petrosian? No, it's Rick Relis. Oh, yeah. Rick's the guy that. told me the story from Backbone. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. That's why you change your own oil. You wouldn't trust your engine to just anybody.

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Okay, dude. They kind of question whether it was Orbs, but that should be our expedition because we've got in there a couple of times. and it's a great place again. So were you there for that incident or was it a thing where like people were split up and then they told you later about what happened? I didn't find out about it until the next morning. Oh, okay. His group, you know, we divide up into groups. It's not like one mass of people would go out.

So we'll split into like usually one investigator and about four or five other people. and we have areas where we want to go. And they had a pretty good activity. They had a good time. It's such a crazy. And it's a wild story. It's one of the wildest. Rick is a cool guy.

Did he tell you about the zapping that he had? This is a year. In Wisconsin. I don't know. It's been a solid four years. It's been a while. It doesn't really. it doesn't sound familiar.

Okay. It was out of Wisconsin expedition. It was he, a family of four who've never gone out before and met another investigator behind the group

and they were walking this road. And it felt like they walked into a wave of electricity. So the first person felt it and like, oh, what's that? And then person behind him, oh my God,

as they kept moving. So it was like they hit a wall. Is there any other explanation for what that could be? I lean towards like infrasound because there are other mammals that produce it. Right. And it seems like the most plausible explanation. Usually larger predators, right?

Right. Yeah. Which in that area would we be looking at like mountain lions or? There's a couple. in that area. I don't think they would produce it. I don't think they're big enough. I think they would just growl and be very annoyed with you.

But the feeling that you're walking into a wave of electricity, I've had that happen a couple of times myself. One was up in Yellow River. I'd crawled into the back of my truck for the night. And then this wave hit me. And it was a tingly sensation. If you've ever been shocked, like, you know, plugging in something into an outlet

and accidentally have your finger on the tongue. Sure. It's not quite that intense, but it was similar. And I remember to scream at, you're yelling, like, stop it. I'm going to bed. And it stopped right away. Really? Oh, wow. That is interesting. And no health issues?

No, no long-term effects. But that, it was just an annoyance. Something was annoyed that I had parked my truck so close to where they were going to go fishing. It was next to a creek. Actually, not that far from where we filmed Finding Bigfoot. So my feeling is that I just annoyed something and it was letting me know. Just realized I'm missing an obvious question.

You were not involved with the filming of Finding Bigfoot. Oh, yeah, I was involved. You were. Okay. And I'm in the trailer. Yeah. Okay. I was like, come on.

That's a question to ask. My internal thoughts. Can you share anything from that experience of being involved with that episode? Sure. If you haven't seen the episode, turn out the last five minutes, please. Or are you going to see me on thermal? Because what happened? All the good stuff happened when there wasn't a camera crew around.

So there's a fire tower up in Yellow River. And there was a group of us hanging out there. And I had something chucked at me. walnut just come flying past my head. Just missed me. He'd hear the whiz from it and hear it land right behind me. So that happened. There was a couple of investigators walking the fire tower road.

And something landed at their feet. And an investigator picked up a rock and threw it back in the direction where the stuff came. Not a good idea. You get stuff thrown at constantly then. So they irritated something. But that last night was, it was interesting. It was a good idea, a good plan of having us all position around on this road. And Matt Moneymaker and Cliff were walking along the edge of a creek.

And I'm trying to get their attention because on the other side of the creek right behind him, something with red eyes was moving back and forth. Their walkie-talkies weren't eye. and obviously they couldn't see me because it's pitched black. So I'm trying to run up to them and get their attention. So that's why I'm on TV in thermal. And afterwards, we started questioning the crew because it's not a huge crew. It's 10, 15 people that came with them.

And none of them were in that area where we were seeing the eye club. They were all at the designated parking area. So something was pacing behind him on the other side. of the creek. But as the show goes, that was a fair representation of a BFRO expedition. You know, again, we divided up into groups and we had a big cookout when it started. And it was a lot of fun, except for like, less, again, the very end. Right, exactly.

It's like, damn it. Yeah, it becomes an interesting episode for sure. People don't know the Iowa episode. You should go watch it. I think it's like on Discovery Plus. Are there any things that you would want to clear up about what people might think about? It's definitely not a way to make money. I know we charge, but we've got overhead.

We pay insurance. There's the upkeep of the database and the website. So you're not going to get rich holding an expedition. There's, you know, we try to keep it as scientific as possible. There's no joking, no firearms, no pranking. We don't want people to disclose where we're going afterwards. We encourage people to go back out into the site. You know, that would be my main concern, people that I hear on different websites.

It's just a way to make money. And no, I spend way more than anything I ever get from it. Gotcha. The thing I hear over and over, and I haven't been on one myself. So I'm kind of an outside person looking in. But the thing I see over and over is that everything is faked that happens on those. Oh, definitely not. No.

Okay. That's what I figured. I was like, I don't know, guys. I mean, at the very least renting the Jack Wink's costume, that thing's really expensive. Right. Yeah. You'd have to really raise the price. Yes.

No, there's absolutely, there's no faking. We don't plant evidence. And, oh, hey, guys, let's go over here. No. Gotcha. That's good to hear. Have you ever captured any interesting audio evidence yourself personally? After, I've been doing this since 2012.

So after 11 years, last year up in Minnesota, I caught something which most likely is a howl. it doesn't match up with any known, again, known critters. There's no, it's not coyote. It doesn't match that wave. That sonogram, it doesn't match, you know, wolf or bear. Yeah, it's just the spectrogram. It looks like something very large, very big, very deep chest, did a whoop. You can see it go up, comes down, and at the very end, it goes back up again.

sort of like the Ohio howl. Gotcha. That is really, that's awesome. What are your, you know, being up in Wisconsin, do you have any feelings towards non-Bigfoot cryptids? Everybody talks about the dog man. Right. The Beast of Bray Road.

And coincidentally enough, in the town I live in, there's a Bray Street, a block. from me. It's like one block long. And there's a beast that lives on it. It's a heck of a dog. He'd go out for a walk. It's going to say hi to you. I haven't encountered any other cryptids. I enjoy the stories. One of my best friends wants to borrow my recording equipment and go sit in cemeteries. Oh my goodness. Knock yourself out. Yeah, not for me, dude. Yeah, the whole dog man thing freaks me out. I'm like, I really, I've gotten a few reports from Iowa. but I'm like, man, I hope we don't have any of those down here. But I know there was a guy who contact me in Northwest Iowa. I'm sure everything weird is over in Southeast Iowa. So I'm sure there's something over there. Do you have any advice for people that would be wanting to kind of get into the going to look for Bigfoot thing?

Any advice for people just starting out? Sure. There's a great book by Robert W. Morris. Oh, Robert W. Morgan one? Yeah. I have that one. It's so good. That's a great book.

It really is. Unfortunately, we were packing up to move, and that book got packed up, and I don't have to remember the name of it right now. But it's fantastic. It tells you how to do this. It tells you how to set up a tent, how to select a campsite. The best advice in the book, act natural and be quiet. Whether you're at the campsite or you go out in a bus. woods.

Just, you know, be yourself. Don't blare music really loud, not do anything dumb like that. There's a lot of great organizations that you can hook up with or at least investigate yourself and check them out, you know. Besides the BFRO, there's little land investigators, which is in Iowa. I happen to think they're great because I work with them. Right. I think that's the only non-BFRA.

FRO related organization for Bigfoot, right, is lowlands. That's all I could find. There should be other ones in Iowa. Okay. I don't know how active they are. There's other organizations in the Midwest that are something that should be active. But again, if you want to do this, spend some time studying the subject and find it, you know, if you're comfortable walking at night, do it without your headlamp on. you should get used to being able to see in the dark after a few minutes.

You know, your eyes will adjust and just walk a dead end road. Again, eyes open, mouth closed, and just listen, see what's around you. Yeah, that's good advice. Definitely, I would say stick to the roads for at the beginning. Yeah. I've seen people dive into, you know, you know, six foot tall brush thinking they saw, you know, high glow, it's big foot. And they run into this cover.

And, you know, for God's sake, they were chasing the moon. Oh, man. Yeah, sure. So again, there's another piece of advice. When you go out, make sure you know where, like, cell phone towers are. If you're going to a spot, you know, headlamps from car headlights, tail lights, just check it out and make sure that, you know, your surroundings before you commit to going. out for three or four hours at a time. Yeah, this is not a thing where it's like you decide to do it at nine and you go out at

10. Like you need to put stuff. You need to put time into preparing for this and know like, are there snakes in the area I'm going to? Maybe I need to be prepared for if a snake is there like a poisonous snake. That's kind of a big deal in Iowa in some parts. Yeah, definitely do your homework. And if you have a buddy, that helps out too.

But yeah, that's my advice to tag on. anyways, but Bob, this has been a really fun chat. There are a few things I want to ask you afterwards if you have a few extra minutes. But I just really thankful for you for coming on the show and sharing some really solid information about the Midwest in Iowa when it comes to Bigfoot. There's not a lot of people to talk to. And I just appreciate you coming on. Are there any ways that people can, do you have an online presence at all? or ways people can contact you

or are you kind of in the shadows and like to live that way? I lurk in the darkness. Lowlanders, that website, you can contact me through there. If you have a report, you can put it on the BFRO website for Iowa and request me to be the investigator.

That's the best way to do it too, those two. Awesome. That's great. Well, thank you so much for coming on, Bob. Yeah, my pleasure. It was a blast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend.

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