Bigfoot Society - "I Heard the Whoops at Night: My Unsettling Encounters with Bigfoot in East Texas"
Episode Date: November 10, 2023In this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeremiah interviews Mike from East Texas, who shares his and his wife's eerie experiences that have led them to become believers in Bigfoot. The couple's j...ourney from skepticism to belief began with auditory hallucinations and escalated to finding strange footprints and experiencing unexplainable occurrences around their property, which backs onto a vast forest. Mike details various incidents, including hearing deep, resonant whoops mistaken for owl calls, discovering deer legs that appeared to be torn off rather than cut, and finding large, unusual footprints in their garden. The couple also noticed a decrease in local wildlife and an increase in strange noises and smells around their property. Mike's narrative is filled with a mix of fear, curiosity, and a cautious respect for the creature he now believes is lurking in the East Texas woods.WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzETo unlock more bonus content and much more, become a supporting member of Bigfoot Society by joining the Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsocietyBecome a Youtube Channel member here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinSupport Bigfoot Society one time by buying me a coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety To pick up a Bigfoot Society shirt, stickers and more, check out our merch by heading on over to https://www.etsy.com/shop/BigfootSocietySend me a voice message to potentially be used for the show by calling 515-809-0165 Here’s a fun prompt - “Hey, my name’s [your name] and you’re listening to the Bigfoot Society podcast!”If you’d like to send me fan mail, Bigfoot related products to check out or written out Bigfoot encounters then you reach me at the following address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Join our private Facebook group "Bigfoot Sasquatch Encounters" for a chance to connect with others who have had similar experiences. Follow the directions to ensure your entry is accepted.https://www.facebook.com/groups/5762233820540793/?ref=share_group_linkTune in to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q) for new episodes of Bigfoot Society, and visit our website (www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com) for all the links mentioned above and more.Don't miss out on the Bigfoot action! —— Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.—— MY GEAR —— My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYMy Podcast Mic: https://amzn.to/3AlYwb9My Computer: https://amzn.to/40CCjQyMy Headphones: https://amzn.to/40A8gcrMy Webcam: https://amzn.to/3NqfddhThe best Bigfoot book: https://amzn.to/41x8IcNLose the weight along with me on Noom. Get 20% off your subscription with link below. (Consult your doctor first) https://noom.com/r/GdkaWNddL?1251Join Whatnot and pick up some sweet video games and vintage shirts. Use my link below and we both get $10 credit after you place your first order. https://whatnot.com/invite/bigfootsocietyLearn more and up your creative game with Skillshare. Use my link and get a $50 gift card. https://share.skillshare.com/bigfootsocietyIf you want an amazing website like Bigfoot Society has that is extremely easy to set up and connects to your podcast in an incredible way then check out Podpage. https://www.podpage.com/?via=jeremiah (Use this affiliate link and you help out Bigfoot Society)
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My wife, we talk about things going on at the house when I'm gone.
She heard at least eight loud woodnots.
occurring one night. Over an hour, every five minutes, there'd be a knock. Every three, every two,
and every minute. It was like somebody with a baseball bat hitting this huge tree that we have. She said
it felt like something was trying to lure her outside. So she made sure not to walk in front of any
windows to avoid being seen. She looked out front and didn't see anything going on. And she said,
It sounded like it was coming from the backyard distinctly.
That's where the edge of our forest is.
And the longer she didn't respond, the more frantic and the more it occurred.
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All right, Bigfoot Society, you got the privilege of talking to Mike from East Texas today.
He contacted me about some interesting things that have been,
going on around his area. And as you may, if you're familiar with Bigfoot at all, there's definitely
some Bigfoot things going on in the East Texas area. But how's it going tonight, Mike?
All right. How are you doing over there, Cheramah? I'm doing good. We're starting to get a little
bit chilly out here in central Iowa, but I think we might have a little bit a little warm period. But for right
now. It's pretty chilly. It's about 20 to 30s. Oh, yeah. My familiarity with Bigfoot is it begins.
I remember being a kid and seeing a few episodes where they started featuring Andre the
giant dressed up as Bigfoot, living out in Austin as a kid and hearing the occasional
story from the other school kids about Bigfoot's and stuff like that. But I never gave it any
merit I never believed in it. I put it out there with snipe hunting and fairies and elves and that
kind of stuff. I thought it was more like a joke trying to get somebody's goat. And I always figured
anything that big would have either been in a zoo or a museum years ago. Yeah, that was my knowledge.
The Abominable Snowman was a clamation character. And I had more faith in the possibility of
extraterrestrials than Bigfoot. And even that was very serious.
sketchy. Yeah, I was never
like, I hadn't even seen the Patterson Gimlin
film until, I think,
probably the 80s.
And then Harry and Henderson's came out. I didn't even watch that.
I just recently saw that
on Netflix or whatever the heck it was,
streaming it with my life. But
our Bigfoot
encounter, and this involves my wife and myself,
it wasn't visual, thank God.
but we are now both believers.
And I bet a lot of other people have similar experiences,
but they just brush them off as something else.
And it's only when,
rather, when you really look closely around yourself
and other things and open your mind to possibilities
that I believe people can start seeing signs
and finding footprints and other signs,
hearing things and recognizing that, oh, that's not an owl or what have you.
But I think a lot of people don't disclose these weird things that they brush off either
because they don't want people to think they're nuts.
And especially if you have a professional reputation, you don't want to danger that.
Our house is over 60 years old.
It's outside city limits back to a large, vast forest.
And the only access to our backyard is through the front.
and it's a busy highway.
And we would see intruders through our windows if anyone was in the front areas or coming up to the front.
We have no trespassing signs, and I often shoot my 45s and 50 caliber out back,
which I believe deters thieves pretty well.
So we never had anyone snooping around on our property trespassing or poaching or anything like that since we moved here over five years ago.
And that's generally how it is out in the country.
people know everybody's armed and so they don't screw around with people like that out here.
When we moved in, the house had a bright mercury out in the front driveway,
which would come on automatically when the sun went down.
And I thought it's creepy and weird.
I never really thought much about it.
But now looking back, I think it was put up and used us what they would refer to out here in the pantry as a bugger life.
which is a deterrent for these things.
And I guess you could say it started October 2020.
My wife heard a man's voice.
I was out of town, and she heard a man's voice from outside the glass door that connects to our carport.
Or entry into that, it's open and easy to get to.
And she heard a man's voice louder, hey!
but she looked and she saw no one out through the window of the door.
But it creeped her out, scared her, so she stayed out of that room for weeks and shut and locked both doors.
She thought it was, she brushed it off as an auditory hallucination,
maybe somebody across the street yelling.
We do have neighbors across the highway and her house can act like a speaker.
It's a brick house.
And when they're on the front porch, the sound can.
carries all the way across the highway at times,
but they have to really be yelling loud or do that or making a lot of noise.
But he brushed it off.
Let's see.
I think it was April 2022.
We both heard a from the forest on coming back home from somewhere.
And I asked her,
you heard that before?
And she said that she's heard it many times before,
but she just thought it was an owl.
See, that's what I mean.
People just brush all this off.
And then around May, we were out hiking at a state park that's nearby us where no hunting is allowed, but it's heavily populated with deer.
And while we were hiking, we found two lower front legs of a deer that were torn off and they were placed close together side by side.
They weren't cut off, but they were torn off.
and you could tell from the way the hide was mangled around the edges.
And there was no blood around them.
There were no ants.
There were just two broken front legs.
And I thought, that's just weird.
And it took me several months had to go by before I put it together
and heard that other people who have had actual sightings on their properties
and encounters and things that nature that they had found.
I mean, there's even a number of people that have actually seen these creatures,
grab a dough or a farmer or small deer,
grab a hold of it, rip the lower front legs off to hobble it so it can place it down
and hide if there was a car or someone coming so the animal wouldn't get away.
It would keep it alive until it grabbed it and was able to take its quarry elsewhere
and could assume that, yeah, so we, that was about.
about 30 minutes away from our place, by the way.
And then December, 2022, we were out, while I was out of town, it was about 10, 11 o'clock.
My wife heard loud footsteps crunching around in the backyard right up against the wall of our den.
And she was in the den watching TV.
And she could hear it through the wall.
It was that loud.
But when she looked out there, she didn't see anything.
But it was also extremely dark where you look out the window, but you can't see.
anything because the lion's
reflecting out of the glass
and she just brushed it off.
She thought maybe it was a deer or something.
Now March of 2023
this is when it really starts getting strange.
I had been trying to develop
this back area behind our house
where it goes down into a little creek,
a little hollow area back there
into my feed plot
where I could hunt locally
in my own backyard.
And I put in a feeder, deer feeder, and I wanted to attract beer back there.
So I took a jar of peanut butter and took the lid off,
screwed the lid to a tree with deck screws,
and open the jar up, put it back on, and then cut the bottom out of it.
And that's to allow the deer to come up and lick right out of it.
And it was unscrewed.
It was about two or three,
days later I went to go check on it on the progress of it and it was unscrewed from the lid laying
on the ground and totally empty not a microcarase of peanut butter remained in it and I brushed it off
as raccoons but looking back at it the raccoon would have to climb up the tree about five feet
grip it with its bottom legs straddle this tree that was about nine inches in diameter
and then unscrew the lid with both of its little rackering hands,
turning it to the left,
and then not leave a trace of peanut butter in the jar,
and then remove the jar.
It was just weird.
I don't know.
I thought, okay, I'll use apples instead.
So I buy a bag of green apples, sometimes red from Walmart,
and throw about five or six out there near the feeder.
and the next day, every apple
it was just totally gone without a trace,
without a piece of apple anywhere.
Totally gone.
Now, who's going to eat six apples
and not leave a trace,
not even a little piece?
Just thought that was strange.
So I started wondering about this.
I thought, maybe there is something to this
because now we're starting to occasionally stream
and watch Finding Bigfoot episodes.
more for the comedic relief of Cliff Bobo and Matt.
And I remember seeing them do calls.
And I thought, oh, you know, I'll just try one of these calls, one or two of these calls.
So I did a couple of calls.
And I didn't hear anything back.
There was no reply.
But what I didn't realize was if there was something going on out there that probably ramped it up.
And about two or three days later, I go out there to check on.
on the deer corn and the feeder,
see where at the level's at,
and see if I'm getting many little deer
lift prints out there
and see what kind of activity I have.
And I found a pile of scat.
It was about six inches in diameter,
about an inch and a half tall.
And it was like a grayish black color.
And it was just chalked full of seeds,
blackberry seeds.
And it was like,
Something had eaten five pounds of blackberries and then defecated into the creek.
I had a little creek that runs back there right next to my feeder.
And the water flowing around it had reduced its size.
But when I doubt it was about six inches in diameter by age half tall.
I didn't think much of it.
I thought maybe it's raccoons at that time.
We had about four or five raccoons, family of about three or fourth possum.
We'd had deer coming down there.
I'd been catching on my trail cam on a tree nearby.
We even had a coyote come up in the yard.
And we always had coyotes around here nearby within, oh gosh,
almost two or three nights, they'd be within an eighth of a mile.
And needless to say, over time, all of those things,
disappeared, even our proper heads and our water moccans and other snakes and stuff that we
had. Whatever is out there, it depleted the food resources to practically nothing. So we came back
one night from visiting family and it was about 8.30 and I remembered that I wanted to check on the
deer feeder and see if I needed to put more deer corn in it or not. And I didn't usually go down there at
8.30. It was starting. It was getting too dark. This was March. And I just never went down there
that late before. I'd always gone down there in the mornings or in the afternoon. But this time I went
down there and I heard a single, very low, deep, menacing growl about 30 to 35 feet from my
theater, inner creek, off to my right.
And I didn't see anything, but when I looked just straight ahead, I didn't look up into the tree, which I regret.
I think whatever it was, it may have been up in the tree or behind some trees.
And being down in a hollow, it could project the sound and echo it off something else.
So it maybe sounded like it was coming from a different direction.
But when I heard the sound, it was like just a, but something inside me, it truly,
There's a primal response that told me to leave.
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And this is my property.
I'm protective of it.
I'm armed, usually most of the times.
I wasn't at that time, but if it was a guy or,
or an animal that I could see,
I would have probably said something to it, stood up to it.
But something inside me told me, just leave.
Don't do anything.
Don't run.
There's no chance against this thing.
Whatever it is, just walk away and get away.
And that's what I did.
I didn't even think of standing my own ground at that station.
And we haven't seen, like I said,
We haven't seen any other animals since May 2023, including mice or armadillos or squirrels.
The squirrels are reduced down to three squirrels.
And it gets weirder.
Now, May 2023, we had a field mouse getting our house, a field mouse get in our house.
And I knew I was fixing to leave for a trip.
So I wanted to make sure I caught this thing.
But I knew if it was in one of those spring traps where slaps,
down on their head leaves a bloody mess that my wife wouldn't want to mess with it so she'd be scared of it soon so i went to walmart got one of these green plastic tubular what they call a humane trap it's about i guess about inch and a quarter in diameter about five six inches long dark green one end has a sliding door on it that slides up and the other has a spring loaded door that you push in
So you have to have fingers to release whatever is in there.
We caught the little mouse, and I don't have time to deal with this,
because two days I had to be out of town,
and I was getting my stuff ready, my paperwork, my clothes, and everything.
So I just took this mouse in the trap and put it on this white vinyl shelf
that we have gardening implements on out in the backyard.
out of the back of the house.
And there was a single two-inch-wide by six-inch-long smudge in the mud next to the shelf,
the next, let me back back here.
Two days later, when I came back, when I returned from my trip after I put it on the shelf,
the thing was gone.
The trap was totally gone.
And I thought, that's weird.
The first thing in my mind was maybe a hawk got to it.
But I thought, how's a hawk going to see it when it's in the middle of a three-tiered shelf that's a foot and a half to two feet off the ground?
And how's it going to grip slippery, hard plastic with its talons, couldn't possibly reach around that U-shaped plastic structure?
So I thought, maybe a raccoon got it.
Maybe this, maybe that.
And just brushed it off.
But like I said, there was a two-inch-by-six-inch-long smudge mark in the mud next to.
where the shelf was
like something had
swiped across there
and like maybe they were finger marks
or I don't know
digit marks that left in the mud
and I still didn't think much of it
I thought maybe if it was a hawk
that came down and that's what its feet did or something
you'd just brush all this stuff off
I was mowing my yard
about three weeks after this
on my riding mower
and the house is in, let's say you make a square shape,
the house would be in the center of the square.
And I mow in a pattern which is like a horseshoe
because there's one part where I don't mow
because it's just ground cover and trees and things.
So on one half of that would be a U-shaped pattern.
I would come around one side and go around the other
and come back again and mow and put a 42-inch-wide swath
with my riding mower each time.
going from the outside to the inside.
On the third pass, when I came around,
and I'd keep in mind, I made two other passes with the mower on the lowest setting.
And I walk my yard first before I mowed,
make sure I'm not going to run over any big sticks or debris
that I'm going to have to wind up picking up pieces of paper or whatever.
So I'd walked at first.
There was nothing out there at all.
And I mowed this area came through.
through nothing there.
On the third time I came back by,
the green plastic trap was back,
right in the middle of where I had first mowed.
And there's no way I could have gone over that.
We got there on the mower.
The mower would have hit it and shattered it into a mess of little pieces.
And it was about 10 feet from the edge of the forest.
And I still have the trap, by the way,
if anybody wants to test it for anything.
So that got me really freaked out.
That got me thinking something with an opposable thumb had to pick this up
because the mouse was gone.
You have to push that door in at one end
or you have to lift the door up at the other.
And both of them were in their closed position.
So if it slid the door up, it pushed it back down.
If it pushed the other one in, it took its finger out.
And it was almost like I had an impression like the thing was saying,
more mice, please, whatever it was.
Thanks for the snack, you got any more?
Yeah, exactly.
And it was just weird.
My wife, I probably spent about two, sometimes three weeks a month on the road.
And we talk about things going on at the house when I'm gone.
she heard at least eight loud wood knocks occurring one night over an hour.
And it started every five minutes, there'd be a knock.
And then it got down to every three minutes.
And then every two minutes.
And then every minute, it was like whatever was making these loud knocks,
which sounded to her like somebody with a baseball bat hitting on this huge tree that we have.
back behind our house from about 25 feet away from the house.
And she said it felt like something was trying to lure her outside.
So she made sure not to walk in front of any windows to avoid being seen.
She turned the TV on mute to try and discern if it was somebody with like a pneumatic nail driver
nearby or across the street building a frame structure or a hammer or something.
She'd looked out front and didn't see anything going on.
And she said it sounded like it was coming from the backyard distinctly.
That's where the edge of our forest is.
And as the longer she didn't respond, the more frantic and the more it occurred.
And then it stopped.
When I returned, I was talking to her on the phone during this.
and when I came back, I found an area on a pine tree that we have that was rubbed smooth of bark,
where it was hit by either a rock or a limb.
And there was a spot that was, like I say, it was rubbed smooth,
and directly above that area, a got one and a quarter inch pine tree limb was snapped down
and pointed down towards the house.
And I'd cut that limb off.
And that was when I saw the smooth spot
because it was below it.
And it was just weird.
Mike, how high up on the tree was a smooth spot?
It was about seven, seven feet.
Wow.
It's still out there.
And let's see, June.
nothing, it's funny
because it's not an everyday thing or even
every week thing, so I had to
keep chronological records on
all this June of 2020.
I decided to search the backyard
and I found a tree
down in the hollow that was
ripped out of the ground, the roots
snapped off, the bark stripped off the top
branches and then it was thrown up
into the fork of a bigger tree that was about
12 foot high. I've kept
pictures of the tree
with the smooth spot and a picture
of that one as well.
And then later in June,
2023, my wife heard
multiple loud owl hoots
while I was out of town.
It's funny, there's a pattern that
when I'm out of town, that's when
she would start getting harassed me.
On my
return, we both heard multiple hoots.
And I think
it thought she was the only one home.
I park out front,
and the house backs up to the
horse on the other side. So it wouldn't have seen my vehicle. But we've come to the conclusion
that it looks in one of our windows. And we've got some more stuff I should add to this that I'll
get to eventually. But she heard these loud al-hoots. And she's not really a country person. I'm not
either. We're city transplants. But I've been out in the country more than her enough to know and
recognize owl hoots and if it sounds like an 800 pound owl it's probably not an owl folks so i was
just going to ask because i was going to ask why was she's so concerned about owl hoots but it
so what you're saying is that this owl was a loud loud sounding owl yes it was very loud
A lot of people will mistake doves for owls.
They're more along that decibel level,
like a pigeon or a dove.
And this thing was loud.
It had resonance to it.
And I was hearing it too.
We were watching TV with the volume probably about half to three quarters up.
And we're hearing it through the wall outside.
And it was too loud.
too deep and it was too close.
And we just sat there listening to that and something told me that's not an owl.
And I wasn't going to try to go out there and look because it was dark.
I wasn't going to see what this was.
I didn't want to put myself in that situation.
So after that, let's see here, I was out in the backyard again,
I'm probably checking on my deer fear.
That's the thing.
I'm checking on that or on my trail cam.
And I found what I thought was a footprint.
I got a picture of that one.
It's in red clay that was dried hard,
but it wasn't very distinct.
It didn't have any type of distinction marks.
But I could tell it was something heavy.
And it was when it stepped in,
it was going uphill.
and the heel is much deeper than the rest of the foot.
So that's weird.
But you still, you brush these things off.
It takes a whole lot of them to add up into something that you just can't really explain.
While I'm out there looking around and looking back at that tree with the rub spot on it,
I found a weird looking large sandstone.
It's a type of rock with odd grooves and holes in it.
And it looks like something from a cave or from far away from,
here. I've never seen rocks
like this
out in this area before and it's
probably the only rock
we. First you want to count little pebbles
and pieces
of gravel but it's
like a fist size
rock and it's just really weird
and it was lying near the
pine tree where the limb was broken
and the one with a
smooth spot on it that was aimed towards our house
so I'm of the theory that's
what it was hitting the tree
with doing the knock with you probably make more noise with a rock hit a tree and you could
with a limb or a branch especially I think the bark would dissipate some of the sound and
absorb it I left it where it was though we still have it there by this time I'd already
started listening to Bigfoot and Beyond other shows and learning a little bit to know I
I didn't want this thing to perceive any type of gifting situation or what have you.
And July, my wife heard three hoops in succession coming from our next-to-our neighbors stock.
And this was just a few weeks before that last tree near the other one was found the next morning broken and pointing towards the house,
which I have another picture of tree limb that was, oh, it must have been nine, nine,
nine foot high and just snapped off and again pointed towards the house and it's it was pretty
good size i've got trees out there that are like six to eight inches in diameter 12 feet high
that are broken over and yeah we when we have a storm or tornado or something we know which ones
get broken because we got to go out there and pick them all up and clean it all up this was
several weeks after that
that this happened. Occasionally you'll hear
something snap out there
when you're watching TV relaxing at night.
But we've never seen a big foot
and we do not want to.
We just have a very creepy feeling.
We just thought it was silly,
but now it seems like a very likely possibility.
We've also experienced a strong skunk-like smell
that lenders for hours,
but we weren't sure if it was
Bigfoot or just a skunk.
And now, my life has a pretty good size garden.
And the most recent things that we've experienced have been past two months.
And I didn't document them.
I should have.
I'll probably will and update this information there.
But when I target practice in the backyard, I'm at my 45.
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There was a late afternoon when I just finished target shooting, and I heard a yell,
a guttural, atypical, bigfoot sounding yell.
And it was about, who knows, a quarter or eighth a mile away from the forest coming from the forest.
and it was like replying to my gunshots
like saying cut that crap out
can you when you say guttural yell
and I don't want to put words into your mouth
but can I do an invitation of it
or is it like when you hear like the long drawn out one
that kind of thing?
Not like the Ohio
yeah I guess but not sounding like a claxon alarm horn
like that one does so much
just more like an, almost like an elephant kind of thing.
And I thought, what the hell could be doing that?
We don't have anything out here in East Texas that makes sounds like that.
We don't, yeah, we just don't.
She's got a pretty good size garden,
and she's got some hog panels that are formed up in a tunnel,
which are about the top of it on the inside.
It's about seven feet tall from the ground.
It's like a tube.
And you can walk inside it.
She was growing green beans in that.
And she noticed one day when she went in there,
all the green beans were gone.
Every one on there was picked off.
And the way that this structure is made,
the other foliage from rose bushes and other trees and things
would conceal someone in there.
If someone or something went up in there and could reach up
and pluck those green beans and just eat them
because none were on the ground.
then it would be hidden, especially at night.
Cars going by wouldn't see it.
No one would see it.
It'd be inside there just happily eaten away.
And we had an okra plant, which had four okra pods on it.
They were gone.
And the okra plant, the stalk itself, was ripped out of the bed.
And that's no small feet because I was thinking about three quarter of an inch.
It takes a pretty strong man just to rip a full-grown ochre plant out of the ground with both hands.
and it was just laid over.
After it was ripped out, it was laid over.
And we have a little fence we put up to keep rabbits out of the garden,
a little metal plastic coated, like a hog fence, decorative more or less.
And there was a bend in the top of it, like a V-shaped bend
or something that stepped into it and crimped it down.
And then the icing on the cake.
and I got a picture of this, I can send you later.
A footprint in the middle of one of the raised beds.
And I didn't have a tape measure with me or a dollar bill or anything to photograph it for scale.
I just took a picture with my phone and then I was able to put my boot up against it without leaving an impression.
But just over an inch or so, but next to it.
And it's about a size 10 in length, but extremely wide.
I don't even know what width that would be.
It was like a normal foot and a half would be super wide.
And then the big toe was really big and round and the other toes were long.
But I'll send you that picture.
And when I saw it, that freaked me out.
That was what sealed the deal.
That was it.
That told me there's not going to be some guy walking around with big weird, wide feet,
stepping in people's raised beds and eating their green beans and making these noises.
and it's just not going to happen.
Even teenage kids are not going to be doing that,
especially out of the country where they know they'll get shot.
That's the thing.
It's because down in Texas is you don't just go messing around with someone's land
because you know that everyone in Texas is ready to do what needs to be done.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
There's places I go in my job where I'm strapping out in public.
No, it's just typical people strapping everywhere down here.
Yeah, I think, yeah, kids know that in an early age.
Yeah, definitely, yeah.
I want to go back to a part that you mentioned where your wife had heard something from the neighbor's property.
Yeah.
So did she heard yells or whoops or I didn't quite hear what she had?
Yeah, she heard three.
She heard three hoops.
and they were the atypical groups.
And the nearest, she said she could figure,
was that it came from the neighbor's property.
When things make a noise in the forest,
they can echo any number of ways.
And if it's got some pretty strong lungs
and pushing out some force,
it could echo off of, who knows,
especially on land that's not flat,
that we have a hollow back there.
And we think from where we're positioned and where this park is, and she's looked at Google Earth aerial shots, that these things mainly reside in that park or that park, because there's no hunting allowed there, is that's their refrigerator.
That's their fully stocked freezer of meat.
Right.
That's where all the beer are.
And they don't have anybody competing.
And at night, it's closed.
unless you're a camper in the camping areas,
then there's not that many people camping there.
So it's a great resource for them.
But when the resources get depleted
or when they want to go get fresh stream water
from a natural spring,
which we have a lot of springs out here where we are,
or when they want to explore,
when they want to, you know, have new ground.
I don't know what it is a territorial,
exploratory thing or what they do,
but when they come out to other areas,
I believe they deplete those areas.
And they exhaust the resources
because, like I said,
all the wildlife work on our property is gone, nothing.
And I believe once they exhaust those food resources,
then they go somewhere else.
And they may just circle around in a big circle,
or they may go to different areas,
or they may do a migratory pattern based on the weather
when it gets really cold, they may go further south,
but I really think it's,
we haven't heard anything in quite a while.
We haven't had any weird feelings going out in the backyard or anything.
The activity has gone down to nothing,
and I believe it's directly related to the completed resources.
And yeah, it's made me a believer,
and I haven't seen one.
Like I said, I don't want to see one.
I've talked to people that have had violent, aggressive encounters with them that have been on other shows.
And it's nice to have someone you can talk to that you don't feel like they're going to think you're nuts.
And they'll fill in a lot of blanks or they'll have the same exact experience in some ways.
And it's refreshing.
I think that just like we were doing, I think most people do that.
They brush these things off.
Their mind wants to make sense of it and wants to put it in a box as something rational and normal and indigenous and natural.
And so then they can let it go and move on with their lives.
But once you encounter these things and you start becoming aware, it changes your life, I won't go hunt by myself anymore if I don't.
do go hunt, I'm going to hunt with a buddy, and I sure ain't going to be out at night in the woods.
Once it's like 6, 637, I'm not outside.
I come in the house because it makes you realize there's something out there.
And I believe the increased frequency in the coverage of this with these podcast and TV shows
and videos on YouTube and everything are the direct result of habitation dwindling down as we
encroach on their areas with more development, business industrial, subdivisions, schools,
whatever. And they're running out of habitat. And as we are in now an era of instant video
footage with phones, trail cams, drones, body cams, dash cams, security cameras, security cameras,
all that, we're going to get more and more footage.
But the conundrum is, regardless of how much footage we get,
no one's going to believe these things exist until somebody hits one with a semi
or takes one out with a big, more high caliber rifle,
and manages to hang on to the body before whoever the forces that be decide to come and take it.
Your neighbors, have you ever asked your neighbors or talked to them about the subject or said, hey, do you guys ever?
Oh, yeah.
Recently.
Okay.
Recently, I talked to the old lady who has a stockpond next to us.
And I'll describe this situation.
And you tell me what you think.
Her husband passed away.
Okay.
Let's go back when he was still alive.
They moved out here in early 60s, 1960s.
And they heard weird noises coming from the woods behind them.
And they just never thought much of it.
He said, this is some damned animal.
After he passed away, she was out here by herself.
And she heard noises and screams and other weird sounds and things.
but I noticed when we moved out here about six years ago that she was not at her house very often,
but she's usually with her kids in another city and leaves her house and has people come in and check on her house in the daytime.
And has a dog, it's in a cage outside, but it's a fully boxed-in cage, roof sides, everything.
It's like a kettle cage, and they feed it.
And I guess they let it out sometimes.
I don't know, but I've never seen it outside of that cage.
What was that she was telling me?
She said, yeah, be sure.
She said, I totally believe you.
When I told her about what I've been here and I asked her,
I said, have you ever heard anything weird?
And she said, yeah, we've heard lots of weird noises coming out there,
yells and screams and sound like a woman screaming and all kinds of stuff.
And I told her pretty much everything I've told you.
And she said, I believe that there's something out there.
She said, but don't tell anybody if you ever want to sell your house or you won't be able to sell it.
And it makes me wonder if that was what she had happened to her when her husband passed.
I don't know.
It's just very strange.
You won't see her out there when the sun starts going down.
You only see her in the mornings.
and in the afternoons, if at all, and not very often.
And we occasionally, we have a window on the end of our house,
and you can watch TV and see the light reflecting from inside onto the glass,
for the most part, until you turn the light off.
And when you turn the light off, you can, or see out through that window at night.
And occasionally, myself and my wife have seen something like a black shadow,
just move real quickly across the bottom corner of that window,
like something was peeking in and jumped back as soon as we looked over at it.
And it makes me think, yeah, before it went over to the garden,
that's where it was looking, and it got curious and watches us,
and it makes noise, tries to get people to come outside.
And, yeah, I think they're curious.
I think they're older than humans.
I think they're curious.
They're territorial.
I think that they're omnivorous.
I think there's different variations of them
depending where you are geographically, climate-wise.
I think that when people see a footprint on the ground
and there's no others around it,
I think that they're using trees.
I also think that they step back into their footprints.
An old trick Native Americans
had been doing for thousands of years when hunting
so they can conceal where they're going.
I think they're not as smart as humans, but they're smarter than chimpanzees or great apes.
I don't know that they have a language.
I don't believe in any of the woo where they have portals and mind speak and all that kind of stuff.
I think they're primates, but I think they're very smart.
and I think that gives them the ability to hide and stay hidden very well.
I think that they are responsible for the thousands of people that are missing about a trace throughout our parks.
I think that if you panic and run when people have seen them,
it triggers a predator response in them to pursue.
I think if people have a certain sense on them, it could attract them.
I think they may have individualized behaviors and attitudes like people.
You have some that are jerks, some that are psychopaths, some that are nice.
And I think when they run across a bad one, and I think they're very short-tempered, chimpanzees are also very short-tempered.
I think there's a lot in common with chimpanzees.
And the ones in Texas that people see are described as being like big chimpanzees with small ears.
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Overdeveloped lats, broad shoulders, and instead of hands for feet, like chimps have, they're just feet.
I think it's another undiscovered species.
Some people are like, oh, there's no such thing.
Yeah, you never know, folks.
It's wild stuff.
And we're keeping your area very vague.
I know, so I know a little bit more, right, because we were talking.
talking before and have you done a Google search on your town yet no not really you need to because
there are multiple reports of sightings in your area from different not just BFRO but other
resources from over the years where there have been individuals that have actually seen
big foot foot back in and I want to say very carefully I will
say a decade of the 70s.
I think that's, I can, that's pretty, that could cover anywhere.
Yeah.
But yeah, there are multiple sites.
Yep.
And yeah, so I would, I can give you more info after we're done recording.
Oh, okay.
It's coupling that with what you've told me.
It's obvious, you got something going on, man.
You have trail cams up around your property.
I think you mentioned.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've never gotten anything on the trail cam.
I've gotten weird light phenomenon.
But that could be a bird going by.
I don't reach up to the woo factor and say, oh, it was a portal opening.
Yeah.
It was a UFO taking the big foot back to Mars.
You're not saying like or anything like that around your property.
No.
Okay.
No.
No.
But yeah, it's, I'm just, I'm just.
I'm just glad, extremely grateful that all of that has died down and stopped and gone.
And I hope if it's gone, I hope it doesn't come back.
I really do.
Because it's an unsettling feeling to be scared to go out into your yard.
Or when you're coming from the store and you're unloading the car of groceries
and you feel like you've got to race in every load.
And you just have a creepy.
ominous feeling
that you're going to be attacked by something
it's yeah that's not good
so
I got a 50 caliber
I got a couple of 50 caliber
rifles and some
45s and
you'd think target
practice and shooting out the backguard
would be enough to keep the damn things out
deter them but apparently
it didn't it just makes them mad
but I think when they
deplete their resources they move along
Yeah, hopefully.
And it sounds like it might be getting to that point on your property if you haven't seen any animals recently.
But have you considered, do you have any audio recorders?
Or you probably know, you're really not trying to capture evidence.
And I encourage, well, I discourage anyone rather that wants to go out that lives out in East Texas.
Don't go out and make calls on your own property.
If you're going to do Bigfoot calls and hoops and howls, go do it.
it out somewhere way out in an area that's not inhabited. If you want to hear them respond back,
which I don't recommend because I think what it does, it makes them curious if they hear that,
makes them curious. Then they come in to see what made that sound. And if they find resources
that are good for them, they're able to stick around. And yeah, it was just a bad move on my part
to do that. I'm not doing that again.
Yeah. It's tricky because we just don't know what that means. Yeah, it's a good point you bring up.
Don't do it on your own property if you don't want them hanging around. Yeah, don't let investigators do it if they want to come
investigate on your properties. They don't live there. They don't care what happens after that.
Yeah. But yeah, I've met people through other podcasts.
that I plan to go to Oklahoma to some casino dumpsters at night with a certain group of individuals
and inside a safe, a big vehicle, and observe what they have observed, which are these things
pushing through the dumpsters and eating out of the grease traps and their supposed video footage of it.
That's a really good stuff.
That's a fascinating thing.
is the really good video is not featured on social media.
It's like someone deletes it or won't allow it to be a poster or what have you.
And so you get a lot of these disinformation videos, as I call them,
where it's questionable at best.
Yeah, it's like that actual video has disappeared.
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Yep.
And I want to see one just so I can allay that curiosity.
but at the same time, I'm afraid to see it because then I'm afraid I won't be able to get it
unsee it. I won't be able to get it out of my head. And it's such a shock to people who have
seen them and have had encounters with them, especially up close and aggressive, that it traumatizes
them. It leaves them with PTSD and some have severe alcohol and drug abuse issues that arise
afterwards just from trying self-medicate and deal with them.
So on one hand, I don't want to see one, but on the other hand, I'm torn.
But I'm sure not going to do anything that will attract them.
People got to watch that too.
If you have leftover food, don't throw it out there in your backyard.
He's thinking that the raccoons and hogs or whatever are going to come clean it up,
don't do that.
These are opportunistic animals.
They will find food resources available.
and take advantage of it.
And to my understanding, it becomes a regular expected thing.
And then you're going to have problems when you stop doing it.
I also think if they were recognized and acknowledged, which they haven't been yet,
it would create way too much trouble, way too much problems.
I think the Department of the Interior and the U.S. Parks and Wildlife Service
have a strong ongoing
clandestine campaign to assure
that doesn't happen. Also, there would be
tons of lawsuits for all those people that vanished
mysteriously without a trace.
It could get really wild.
Yeah.
Yeah, it could get very bad.
They're like, well, yeah,
nothing to see here, folks. Don't talk about it.
See, yeah, but I agree with you.
I think the government knows a little bit more
than they're letting on for sure.
So, yeah.
Yeah, anything that's weird, unusual,
the military industrial complex wants to adopt it
and use it for some military application.
I think that's been the same situation
with the UAPs or UFOs.
They don't want, if it's some technology
that they can adopt for military use for superiority,
yeah, and I've heard that as well
with the soft squash that they look into
the possibility of using it to make some super soldiers.
I don't know how much truth there is to that.
I could see exploring its genetics,
maybe to do some genetic modifications to humans with their genetics,
or to see what comprises it, what makes it, what it is,
its strength, because apparently these things have unbelievable strength.
like I said, the trees that I've got, they're broken, it would take machinery to do that,
or several people using machinery to do that, hand leverage and things like that to do it.
And I ain't seen anybody back out here on my property.
It is doing it covertly and quickly.
It'll make you not want to go into wood.
Absolutely.
Mikey, definitely, you got some weird.
stuff going on.
Please keep me in the loop with what you got going on.
I think there you probably haven't heard the last weird thing, but.
I hope I know.
Yeah, that's true.
But if you happen to hear something else, let me know.
But I appreciate you reaching out to me.
And yeah, hopefully this is it.
And sometimes that happens.
They just go away and maybe put up a few more trail cams and you won't have
to worry about it, but that seems you put it. Yeah, and I recommend anybody having any of these
situations that doesn't want this to happen. Go get some motion activated solar powered lights.
Oh, yeah. You can get them at Walmart. Stick those along your property where just at the edge
of where you're having them come in, where you're having activity. And that's helped. I guess it's
helped. It sure hadn't increased it.
Sure.
I have lights and don't throw any food out.
Don't put any apples out.
If you do have, gosh, just keep it to deer corn.
I've heard that they eat that too, but they're less attracted to that than they are to other things that people put out sometimes in your feeders.
Anything that's like to lure hogs or whatever that can be more attractive to them.
Yeah, and just here's a part of me too that believes in what the Native Americans say in that leave them.
alone, don't leave you alone.
You don't call them.
You don't make noises.
You don't put things out there.
You don't gift.
You don't put food out there.
And if you do see one, don't freak out, panic, and run.
Just keep your eye on it and walk away and get to a safe place.
Because, yeah, I don't think there's any magic.
I think they're just big, dangerous, scary, unclassified, undiscovered primates.
that we have here in North America
that eventually will be revealed
and classified. And
it's going to be interesting when that day comes.
Absolutely. Mike, I appreciate you chatting.
Tonight, it has been a fun discussion.
I do want to talk to you a little bit more,
but I do want to have that off the recorded portion
just to keep privacy about your location.
But thank you so much.
for chatting tonight, Mike.
Oh, thank you very much for having me.
I appreciate it.
It always makes you feel a little better to express, let that out, without fear of someone
saying, you're nuts.
Yeah, not here.
Don't worry about that.
All right.
Thank you, Mike.
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