Bigfoot Society - I Know What I Saw at Mt. Rainier!
Episode Date: February 9, 2024Alfred approached me about what he saw on a hike in the Mt. Rainier, Washington area in 1987. He's an older gentleman now and feels it is time to share his story.It's a fascinating account and I'm not... surprised that it haunts him to this very day.Share your Bigfoot encounter here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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Bigfoot Society.
In this episode, I talked to Alfred, who shares how we saw Bigfoot while hiking around Mount
Reneer in 1987.
If you've experienced something similar to what Alfred did or have more information regarding
Bigfoot or other cryptids in the same area, please reach out immediately to me.
after this episode. Remember, your encounter could be the key to unlocking this mystery once and for all.
So please don't hesitate to contact me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. All right, Bigfoot Society,
you've got the privilege of talking to Alfred tonight. He's a listener that reached out with some
interesting things that he has encountered in his travels. Alfred, I hope you're doing well tonight, sir.
I'm going to put it right over to you. Yes, good evening, Jeremiah. Thank you for having me on,
and inviting me to share my incident that I had.
Again, my name is Alfred.
Just a little bit of my background.
I'm an IT person.
I had been doing IT for 40 years now.
And I currently reside in Connecticut.
So my stories was back in 1987.
My wife and I had visited some friends up in Seattle, Washington.
And what happened was they're doing our stay.
Some of us decided to go hiking up at Mount Rainier.
And I was really excited about it because I love the outdoors.
I like camping.
I've been fishing and doing all that sorts of stuff since I was a teenager.
Back in the late 1970s, my friends and I would go hiking up New York, the Catscale Regions most of the time.
But anyway, this particular story, we had going out to do.
I hiking tour in Mount Rainier, and we ended up at this place.
There was a parking lot.
We parked, and as I mentioned in my story, there wasn't too many cars around.
There must have been maybe five other cars in the area.
And we started walking through one of the trails that one of our friends was familiar with.
There were six of us, my wife, myself, and two other couples.
And about a little way into the hike, we came up on a rest area,
and there was some bathrooms.
So everybody decided to go to the bathrooms,
and I decided to keep walking down the trail.
I must have walked a few, but it felt maybe just a few blocks.
I mentioned there was about a eighth of a mile,
and the reason I mentioned was because I'm an avid runner,
and I can judge distance pretty well, I think.
But anyway, as I was walking down this trail,
I heard some noises in the woods, like trampling,
and just I heard some leaves rattling, and I decided to go and investigate.
And at first, I thought it might be maybe some other hikers.
I didn't think it was animals or anything like that at the moment.
So anyway, I decided to go into the woods.
And I began to smell.
I mentioned my story that I smelled this stench that was really bad.
It was like a body odor.
And it got stronger and stronger as I was getting into the woods.
And it wasn't a skunk because I'm familiar with the outdoors animals, and I know what a skunk smells like this.
It did not smell like a skunk.
I mentioned that I used to live in New York City, and it reminded me of a homeless person, basically.
But anyway, I think that about 50 feet into the, I went off the trial about 50 feet into it, I saw a grouping of trees.
There must have been maybe about six trees.
They were pretty large pine trees, and they were all grouped together.
And then I saw something that was moving, and I couldn't figure out what it was.
At first, I thought maybe there was some huge squirrels or maybe some type of an animal,
because it was two of them, and they were pretty far apart.
One was on top and one was at the bottom.
And I kept getting closer because I was trying to figure out what type of animal it was.
and as I got closer, I saw this huge thing just, I guess it went to its right, so it would have been my left, it peered, and I saw this huge thing sticking out.
And I didn't know what it was. At first, I thought it was a bear, but I said, no, it can't be a bear. It was too big to be a bear, okay?
So then my mind was running 100 miles an hour because I'm trying to figure out what the hell is this.
And I knew it wasn't a person because it was huge.
Again, I know distance.
When I was in high school, I used to high jump.
I'm 5'10 and I was able to high jump six feet.
So this thing must have been eight feet or taller.
Okay.
And again, when it leaned over, then I realized that the two things,
that I saw moving was its right arm
was holding onto the tree
and the bottom part was part
of its leg, almost like the knee part.
And it looked at me and we locked eyes
and I think that that moment lasted,
I would say maybe 30 seconds, which is not that long
but it felt like an eternity
because I saw its face.
It had almost human facial
features and
it had red eyes, but
the eyes were not,
right like you see on some videos.
People at night don't show these eyes.
They almost look like flashlights.
No, this thing had almost like bloodshot eyes.
Like you would see when I was a drunk person.
And it looked at me and I looked at it and I was panicking because realizing that this thing was huge.
I said, oh my God, this thing is not a person.
It's not somebody in a custom because I would have been able to tell that's a custom or that's
somebody in something.
But again, it was so huge.
That's why he knew it wasn't a person.
And then a few minutes later, I heard my party catching up to me.
It was my wife and the other two couples.
And then this thing looked towards the direction where they were coming behind me.
And then it just slid away and it walked up there.
It was like that part of the woods went up instead of going up the hill.
So it just walked away.
And then I moved to my left to try to get a better glimpse.
And I was able to see between the trees.
and it just kept walking up.
And then at one moment it stopped,
it looked through its right,
and then it just kept walking and it disappeared.
And then that's when the rest of my party
got up to us.
And I don't know what to do.
I don't know how to explain to them
that I had seen something that I couldn't explain
because, again, I don't want to be ridicule.
I don't want to be made fun of.
And back then, this was back in 1987,
we didn't know anything about Bigfoot back then.
I didn't know.
I had never heard about Bigfoot.
Even when I used to go camping with my friends,
we never heard anything about Bigfoot.
We didn't know what it was.
Again, later on, later in time, yeah, I started hearing stories about Bigfoot and stuff,
but I never thought that's what I saw.
Because to be honest with you, I wanted to get it out of my mind
because the only thing that it reminded me of was a creature
that when I was a kid, my family used to mention a creature from my childhood that sort of
people saw back in the motherland. I was born in Central America. And my father would tell us
stories that there was this creature in the woods. I would give you the name. It was called
Las Iiwanava. And basically, this thing was a hairy monster. And it was a female because supposedly
It has breasts and it was hairy.
It was huge.
It has the, from what I understand, the right leg is supposed to be a chicken leg.
And the left leg is supposed to be a horse leg.
And the story was that if you were in the woods and then this thing came out at you,
you were not supposed to turn your back to it.
Because if you turn your back to it, you will become insane.
It will do something to you.
I know it sounds ridiculous, but as a kid,
this was the fear that they put in us.
So any time that we did anything wrong,
they would tell us,
or they're going to bring us to the woods and leave you there
so this thing will get you.
So that was the only thing that crossed my mind.
But again, I wasn't an adult.
I was in my early 20s.
No, it can be.
It's a myth.
But that was the only thing that I can compare it to.
So I figured I joined my party and we kept walking,
but the whole time I was so afraid.
I was worried the whole time,
and I was always looking around.
I heard noises and I was always just cautious just in case this thing came out and try to attack us or something.
And to be honest with you, if it did come out on the approaches, I would have just grabbed my wife by the arm and I would have ran a lot of there because I knew this thing was huge.
There's no way all of us would have been able to fight this thing.
And then eventually we made it back to our car and we ended up going back to our friend's house where we were staying.
and that was the end of it.
And I never mentioned it to anybody.
I told my wife this story, I think maybe a year afterwards.
And she thought that maybe it was just the bear that I saw.
But I know what I saw and I know that was not a bear.
And to this day, I have seen a lot of videos and I have seen movies.
And yeah, as I got older, I realized, you know what?
I think maybe it could have been a big for what I saw.
That's a fascinating story, Alfred.
Thank you for sharing.
I know you just said that you really haven't shared this with anyone,
and I appreciate you sharing it on the show.
Going back to that time when you were able to look at it for a bit,
do you remember anything about the color of the hair of what you saw?
Yeah, this thing was like a reddish brown,
because again, when I saw the arm and I guess the knee moving,
and I didn't know what it was at first,
I thought it was maybe like a red squirrel, but I'm like it was too big to be a squirrel.
Because again, I couldn't make out what it was because it looked like the hand was hugging part of the tree.
And it was shaky, like trembling.
And then the knee was just, the knee was just staying put.
It would just move from side to side.
But again, because I hadn't seen the whole thing, I couldn't make out what it was.
But it was like a reddish brown.
Yeah.
Okay, gotcha.
So after you were able to see exactly what you were looking at,
you realized it was just one creature then?
It was, yeah.
Yeah.
Again, when it peered to the right and I looked at it like so the face, I saw the head,
the shoulders.
And actually it was just part of it.
It was just the right shoulder because it didn't step out.
It just leaned to the right.
But again, it was so huge that I had to look up to see this thing.
And I was just amazed.
I was, I didn't know what to do.
Again, because my mind was like fighting to trying to put, I guess, a reason.
What is this?
I couldn't figure it out.
I know it's not a bear.
And if it was a person, there's no way it could be that big.
Oh, absolutely.
Do you remember anything about the length of the hair at all or anything about the hair?
It was hairy.
It wasn't, how do you say, it wasn't, the hair wasn't cropped or short.
It was actually really shaggy.
It was funny.
it almost reminds me of a Chewbacca from Star Wars, basically.
That's where it almost looked like, except reddish brown.
The face, I remember the face was almost human,
and I remember the eyes were also really far apart.
That was another thing that I remember that the eyes were not,
like a regular person.
It would be like maybe one eye distance in between this thing was like,
I was saying maybe there was like four eyes in between the first eyes.
and the other eye.
And then it was like a grayish color, the face.
And I know it had lips.
It had a mouth, but it wasn't moving.
The mouth wasn't moving.
The nose was the nose.
It had a nose.
And I remember the nose was a bit, I guess, because it was breathing, it was flaring a bit.
You can see the back strokes moving.
And it was not like, the nose was proportionate.
It wasn't like, I guess like a, it wasn't like a gorilla that it's really.
huge extending. It was almost like a proportion of human nose, but to its size for that face.
Was there a hood at all, like a hooded nose, or was it more of a flat nose?
I don't understand. What do you mean hooded? It wasn't flat. It was almost like a, I guess,
almost like a human nose, but just huge and proportionate to its face.
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It said everything happens for a reason, but maybe everything happens for a reason.
Take noise-canceling headphones.
Do they block hearing to heightened taste?
Hmm.
That sound seems to show.
Everything happens for a recess.
Okay, gotcha.
You said you saw the mouth.
Was it a larger mouth or smaller mouth?
Or do you remember anything about the mouth portion of the face?
The mouth was basically just, it didn't have the mouth.
I don't remember seeing lips.
Like, I guess, human lips.
It was almost more like a flat.
I guess you would say like a flat mouth.
There was no shape to the lips.
It was just like a line.
But it was gray because you could actually make out that it was a mouth.
And then it had it because it was hairy, it looked like it had hair where a mustache would be.
At any time, did you see the mouth open so you could see the teeth of the creature?
No, that was the other thing.
It did not move.
It didn't.
But I did hear before I saw it, it did make a noise, which at first I thought,
it was a bear.
It sort of, I guess like a grunt noise.
It sounded like it took a breath.
It went something like and then something to that effect like that.
But the grunt was sort of a, it was really, how do you say, not loud, but it reverberated.
Like I can feel it, how you can feel it in your bones almost.
It was that loud, but it was like really low and muffled.
But I felt the grunt.
I felt it before.
I felt it as I heard.
It just kind of sound.
It sounds crazy, but it was that low and muffled that it was that I felt it.
I don't think that's crazy at all.
When you felt that reverberate, what did it evoke any emotions in you?
Did it make you feel a certain way?
It's funny.
Like I had mentioned when I responded, I'm a big martial artist.
I've been studying martial arts.
I've been studying martial arts for like maybe, wow, 40 years now.
I've been doing martial arts, and I know I can defend myself.
In previous years, I have had situations where I have been confronted by multiple people,
and I've been able to defend myself.
But when I saw this thing, I was afraid because I knew there's no way I could defend myself
against this thing. No way.
And my fear was just for my wife's safety and my safety.
To be honest with you, I was hoping that if this thing came out, it would go after one of
my friends.
That was my thing.
My thing was I'm going to run out of it with my wife and let them get eaten or get whatever
because I wasn't going to take that chance.
It sounds like you were in self-preservation mode for sure.
The whole time walking to that, the height lasted about two hours, I believe.
the whole time.
I don't think I enjoyed the hike because I was apprehensive.
Every little noise, I was always looking around, making sure that this thing wasn't
following or it wasn't running after us.
Do you remember anything about the area of the face above the eyes, like the forehead
area?
The forehead was, the forehead was huge, actually, because the head was almost pointing.
It wasn't like, I guess, like a regular human head.
I remember it was pointing, not like a football, but that shape.
It went, it went up and pointed to the top, but not really, let's say, a cone.
It's just almost like an oblong shape.
And I don't remember seeing ears because I guess maybe because it was so hairy, I couldn't see any ears.
I don't remember seeing ears because, again, I was trying to, I was trying to make sense of trying to match it with something that could be explained.
like let's say maybe a bear but now so during the time when you were able to look at it and you
had eye contact did it have an emotion in its face at all or or during that time when you had
eye contact were you feeling any emotions at all i was afraid i felt fear but i don't this thing
wasn't afraid or it didn't show any fear again it only lasted 30 seconds or
last few days. And as it was looking at me, I remember it was, it blinked a few times,
but it was just staring at me like, it was not afraid or concerned. It didn't make any effort
to, at least not during that moment to run off or anything. No, it was just, this thing was
sure of itself. Because again, when my friends started coming up behind me, it looked in towards
their direction and then it just slid away. It just walked away. And then I just saw the arm
disappear. And then the knee went away and then it just started, I heard the noise. And then I
went in a bit to my left to try to get a better glance. And then I was able to see between the
trees and it just walked the way going up the hill. Were you able to get a good look at its
hands? The hands I was able to see once it was walking away. I did see the right, it looked like
the right arm and the hand. And I could see that you can see almost like the palm and it was
cut. But I didn't see fingers when I saw its arm and its hand because it was really hairy also.
Okay. So the hair was covering any form of digits. But when it walked.
Oh, yeah, I did see what looked like a hand.
And it was, I could see the back of it because it was walking away from me.
And the right arm was moving.
I couldn't see the left arm because it was covered by the other trees.
And I saw basically saw its right side from the back as it walked away.
Did you notice anything interesting about the arms?
The arms were, the arm that I saw was pretty long.
The arm, yeah, that was another thing.
The arm was pretty long.
I would say maybe, yeah, the arm was a bit longer.
It looked longer than a regular human arm.
How far down the body would you say the arm?
I would say it went up to probably up to its knee.
Okay.
You were able to see it walk away sounds.
Were you able to see the feet?
Did you notice anything about the feet of the creature?
No, I didn't, I couldn't see anything by the feet because I guess it would be the growth in the area.
Mm-hmm.
So as it was walking away, there was, I guess, like shrubbery and stuff.
So I couldn't see past, I guess, it's knee and below.
That part, I guess, of the back of the leg, towards it below the knee,
I couldn't see because of the shrubbery as it walked away and it was walking up.
I only saw, I would say half of it.
It's right half with the arm down as it was walking up the hill.
And then again, I remember it stopped for a second,
and it looked to the right and then it just looked back straight and just kept walking disappeared.
Anything weird about the gate of the creature or how it was actually moving the way its legs moved,
things like that?
I can't remember anything like that.
But I do remember that when I first heard it and also when it walked away, when it took a
steps, you can hear as it crushed the growth underneath that it was heavy. It was heavy
because you can actually hear the, you can walk in the woods and trouble and you'll make some noise,
but this thing really made noise as it walked away. If you had to estimate how much it weighed,
what would you say? Wow, weight? Wow. Yeah. It had to have been at least eight feet tall because again,
And I came, the way when I was looking at it and I saw the tree, it was at least a, I couldn't see its whole, I didn't see the whole body.
Okay, because when you peaked at me, it leaned to the right, and I saw part of the shoulder.
I saw the face.
So I only saw the right arm still holding to the tree.
I saw the shoulder.
And then when it went back and it started to move away, and I tried to follow it a bit to see when it was walking away,
I only saw the right half from its back.
It was tall, weight, easily 500 pounds or more, I would say, easily.
Was there anything that you saw that would make you think that it was a male or a female?
It's funny, I just assume it was a male.
Sure.
Because when it was leaning over, I didn't see anything that would indicate.
I didn't see breasts, if that's what you mean.
I didn't see breasts.
And then when I was walking away, it was huge.
It didn't look like a female to me, basically.
I don't know, maybe I could be wrong.
Maybe you couldn't mean, but I couldn't see any features that would tell me or lead me to believe that it was a female.
Were you able to see anything under the hair muscle-wise?
No, not necessarily muscle.
like I guess if you would see a bodybuilder, no.
But the arms were huge.
That right arm was, the width was really huge.
I couldn't tell you how it was huge compared to looking at the arm, that right arm, when it was leaning.
Yeah, I could see from the shoulder going down to the arm and the elbow.
And then as it came around the tree, it was huge meaning thick.
but I don't recall.
I can't remember seeing like muscles or muscle movement now.
Think back to what you were able to see of the face, if you would.
And is this a face that you would see when you're visiting the zoo
or that you would see when you're walking down the street in the city?
No, not a, you wouldn't see that in a person now.
If anything, I would say, yeah, a gorilla maybe.
I've seen gorillas up close.
That's the only closest, but a gorilla, the features,
a gorilla looks like the features, right?
They're not hairy.
The hair is really cropped and is close to the skin.
And you can see the features, like the nose is flat, pushed in.
No, this thing was not.
This thing was not an ape.
If that's what you, if you wanted to compare it to,
It was definitely not, I know what a male were a gorilla, a orangutan, or even a chimpanzee looks.
No, this thing did not resemble any of that.
Interesting.
Okay, so not an ape, but.
No, that was, because that was one later after the incident, when we were still there,
I was, for days, I was trying to process it, trying to, was it a gorilla?
There's no guerrillas up, but there's no way.
It's no way. No way. So my wife thinks that it was either a bear or maybe somebody in the suit,
but there's no way it was somebody in the suit. Not that big. No way.
So remind me what time of year it was in 19.
This was in August, yeah, August because we had gotten married in August of 85, my wife and I.
And basically, that was almost our, we were young at the time. And so we didn't have a honeymoon.
and that was almost like a honeymoon trip.
So it was in August of 87.
And I remember that my friends had made a comment
that basically in Seattle,
you can actually go swimming
and you can also go skiing at the same time
because you can actually go up to the mountain.
And I remember that when we went to the mountain,
we had to wear almost like a windbreaker type of thing
because it was colder up at the mountain than it was.
where we were staying.
It was a colder day, but there wasn't snow in the area that we were hiking,
but you can actually see higher up.
You can see the mountain peak covered in snow, but not where we were hiking.
What time of day again, was it that you saw that?
This was like in the middle of the day.
Okay.
I think we got to like before lunchtime.
Gotcha.
And I remember that it was, the lighting was pretty, it was.
It was decent lighting because the one of there's epi.
It was like it'll rain one moment and then it would be sunny.
And our men was a pretty nice, clear day.
It didn't rain on us or anything like that.
It was pretty good.
So there wasn't like, let's say, fog or anything that or even a mist that might affect the vision of this thing.
Was there anything that the creature did during the short time you saw it that really confused you even after all these years?
just the fact
the way that it was looking at me.
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The way it looked at me, it would be almost like a person who would look at you, right?
Like somebody, it's, I don't know, it's just, it felt like.
This thing is almost like a human being, but huge.
It looked at me and it knew that I was probably, I wasn't put it this way.
I wasn't a local animal.
It knew that I was a person, basically.
And I felt that this thing's looking at me and it knows what I am.
It wasn't like, let's say, a deer looking at you or any other animal.
This thing, you can sense that this thing was almost human, basically.
Would you ever have nightmares about what you?
you saw over the years?
I did.
I didn't say nightmares because, not nightmares, but oh, you're constantly thinking about it,
just trying to make sense out of it, basically trying to make sense that it was not a bear.
It was not a deer.
It was not, no way it could have been an ape because there's no apes up there.
And I would think maybe perhaps an ape got loose in the zoo and it escaped.
And no, there was no, never any incidents.
I never read because later in life I would do research to see if there was any incidents regarding,
oh, maybe that they reported anything similar to that.
And again, yeah, I did.
And I saw other, obviously I started seeing other people talking about sightings,
but not, let's say, a mountain lion or something that does not belong up in that mountain.
Have you ever seen, let's say, a picture or a drawing or anything that was similar to what you saw?
The only thing that is funny, the only thing that I think came close to it, again, was Chewbacca from Star Wars.
That's the closest thing that I can relate to, except brownish red.
Would you ever want to see one again?
Yes, I would.
I definitely would.
maybe not that up close but yeah I would definitely I would love to see one why would you want to see one again
I don't know I just I think that I would need to see it I don't know I can explain why I just need to
see it again put it that way I guess maybe to make sure that maybe I wasn't imagining I wasn't
seeing things but then again if I do see one again I would know how to explain it or what it is
I need to know how people claim to see UFOs or even ETs, right?
Would you want to see?
I would love to see one, sure.
Yeah, I definitely would love to see it.
And it's funny, my friends and I used to go camping upstate New York, again, by the Catskills area.
This lake is the national park called North-South Lake.
I believe it's called Sogadis up in, except 20, if I'm not mistaken, on the throughway.
And we used to camp there all the time.
And we were hear noises at night.
We used to like to go camping either at the beginning of the season or at the end, but there wasn't too many people.
And we were here stuff out there.
And again, back then, we didn't know what a Bigfoot was.
We never heard of it.
But we were hear noises.
And we always, we joke about saying, somebody left their dog in the woods and they never came back.
because we will hear this thing that it sounded almost like a dog market,
but it was like almost every time we went up there,
we would hear this thing.
But we never saw anything up there.
We did see bear, black bear and other animals,
but we never saw anything like this up there.
And I'm sure they've had sightings out there,
but we never came across.
And again, ever since I was a teenager,
we used to go camping as a group, four of us,
every year religiously.
Up until when I was an adult,
I would say maybe I haven't gone camping in five years.
But prior to that,
we would go every year religiously camping to that same campground.
Yeah, no, I know that up in that area,
there have been sightings.
I've talked to a few people.
It's a very interesting area.
Going back to your mountain, Renier sightings.
Yeah.
Was there anything else that you had forgotten to mention
about the encounter.
Nothing.
The smell.
It's funny because after it was going, you can still smell it.
You can still smell it.
Not as strong as when it was standing that close.
But after it left and my friends caught up, I remember some of them saying, oh, they were
talking about, oh, they were joking around that somebody didn't take a bath or somebody
let one go.
And I just kept quiet because I didn't want anybody to know what happened.
I just, at least not to my friends.
I told my wife later when we came back actually from our trip, I mentioned it to her.
But I never told my friends that were with us that day because I just, you know, I don't know how to explain.
I wouldn't know how to explain it.
What kind of sounds were you hearing in the woods that day?
That day, I heard squirrel sounds.
We hear the squirrels, chipmunks.
That was, that's probably just about it.
And obviously birds, but nothing like this.
And again, when I heard the grunt, I immediately assumed it was a bear.
That's what I thought.
I think it's got to be a bear.
And I've heard bear because up, again, when I was camping up state New York,
black bear would come to the campground.
You have to be careful not to engage them or bond.
We would basically walk away from the campsite.
And we knew enough to keep the deer, whatever food we had tied up high with a rope in the tree to keep it away from the bear.
Because they did come at night to the campground.
And if you didn't bother them, they didn't bother you.
And they were not that big to the black bear up there, not, let's say, a brown bear.
Were there any sounds that you heard during your time there when you were hiking around that were just out of place or that's a weird sound?
I didn't hear anything out of place except for that grunt.
Okay.
That was the only, and again, as we kept walking, I was always listening.
I was waiting to hear this thing because I was still afraid that this thing is going to come out and try to attack it.
As I was hearing other noises, I was paying close attention that if I heard that grunt, that thing is going to be really close by.
But the rest of the hike, I didn't hear that particular grunt.
No.
If the grunt was conveying an emotion, what would it be?
Did you get anything from the sound?
And I know that's a weird question, but.
Yeah, I think that maybe it made the noise to let me know, not to get close.
That's the only thing I can think of it.
Because, again, it sounded like a muffled grunt,
but it sounded like it took a breath first.
It went something like that like that.
And then something like that.
Like it was relaxing.
And it was only just that one grunt.
It didn't grunt anymore.
That was the only time it grunted.
And then as we made contact and it walked away, it didn't make any.
Has there been anything about the encounter that you do not want to share or that you've been very hesitant to share?
No, not at all.
That was the whole story.
Obviously, to this day, I haven't mentioned it to our friends up there in Seattle, Washington.
And you still keep in touch with that.
Yeah, I never mentioned it because, I don't know.
It's just one of those.
And I'm sure that they are aware.
And who knows, maybe if we ever go up there.
Because we, I haven't gone up there to visit it ever since that time in 87.
I think we went back maybe five other times.
different years from 87 up until maybe I think the last time we went up there was when
my son was my son was 593 4 5 6 7 1998 was the last time that we went up there
so the people you're with out in the woods they don't really know what happened no they
don't know what happened now wow so again maybe one day if we go I'm sure we'll go up there
visit friends again because stuff happening, who knows, weddings and things. And we will end up
going up there. And I'll probably mention it to them. I guess I'm in, I'm 63 this year. I'm in that
point in my life, but you know what? I don't care about, I don't care about what other people
think. I get it. It doesn't bother me. I said it would have 30, 40 years ago, right? Now, I'm like,
You know what? If they make fun of me, more power to them.
It does they would not affect me at all.
I would not feel, I guess, what I was afraid feeling back there, being ridiculed.
And the great thing is all the stuff that you're sharing will help a lot of people that are listening
and maybe even help them to work through what they experienced and then be able to share
by contacting me what they've experienced you.
So I really appreciate you reaching out, Alfred.
Sure, cool.
Yeah, it was my pleasure.
It was nice talking to you and sharing this.
If you ever do get in touch with those, you know, those friends again.
And there's any new information?
Please reach out.
I would definitely let you know what their reaction is or what their take on it is.
Because I'm curious too to find out maybe, who knows, maybe they had similar experiences.
Exactly.
And maybe there, they were shy or afraid to share.
Who knows?
Exactly.
Interesting.
I know it's later where you're at.
I appreciate you spending your time with me tonight.
And thank you for much.
Sure.
Sure, Jim.
I was nice talking to you.
And thank you for having me.
Yes, sir.
You have a great night.
Yep, you too now.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
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