Bigfoot Society - I Took Off After It! | Georgia

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Welcome to Bigfoot Society! In this episode, we have the pleasure of speaking with Tony Green, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher from Georgia. Tony shares his fascinating journey into the world of Bigfoot, starting from childhood interests sparked by shows like 'In Search Of' and 'Bigfoot and Wild Boy.' Listen as Tony recounts his numerous encounters and experiences in Jenkins Gap, including being charged by a mountain lion, discovering footprints, and an intense encounter at a campsite. Learn about the research methodologies employed back in the late '80s and the unique interactions with the Georgia Forestry Commission. Tony also discusses the current state of Bigfoot research in Georgia and his views on the creature's existence. Don't miss this in-depth look into the mysterious world of Bigfoot in the Peach State!Resources:Email Tony: [e-mail] to Miss V's Bigfoot show "Muddy Creek Podcast" here:https://www.youtube.com/@MuddycreekpodcastIf you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to [e-mail]. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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you get a special members-only episode every single week on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society, and now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Tony Green today. an individual that is a Bigfoot researcher down there in the great state of Georgia for quite a few years.

And he'll share all about that. But thank you for being on the show today, Tony. How's it going? It's going fantastic. I'm, you know, I'm thankful for being here. I'm thankful to have you here, too. And I was first introduced to you, give my friend Miss V a shout out. I saw you over on the...

Yeah, she's awesome. Yeah, she's great. Saw you over on her show. So I'll make sure I have a link to that in the show notes for sure. But Tony, if you wouldn't mind, you know, we're going to start out with the probably basic one that, you know, all the researchers here is, you know, what was it that first got you into the Bigfoot world to begin with? Well, what got me into the Bigfoot world is different. from what got me into Bigfoot, period. Ever since I was a child, I was into Bigfoot,

Lottness, monsters, mysteries, and stuff like that. I used to watch in search of as a kid with my dad and my mom and him. I used to watch, there was a Saturday night, not Saturday night, but Saturday morning kids show called Bigfoot and Wild Boy. I used to come on every Saturday morning. It was part of the Sid Marty Crawl Super Show. So I was watching it there. one of the first two Bigfoot movies that I ever watched.

And like I said, I was a kid. We're talking five, anywhere between five to ten years old. I watched The Legend of Boggy Creek, of course, and the creature from Black Lake. So, you know, I've tried to watch that every time it came on television. So I was always into Bigfoot. I never thought that I would go researching for it or nothing like that. But it was just was something that I've always believed in. You know, from a child, it never was a mystery to me.

I never felt it to be like mysterious or something like that. Because, you know, to me it was just another ape that just hasn't been discovered or documented yet. You know, but it was out there, you know. And to me at that age, Bigfoot was as normal as a bear or something, a grizzly bear or something. So, but what got me into the Bigfoot world happened. This is back in 89. I was working in a convenience store and I worked third shift. And back then, you know, you didn't have too many people that would be out that time of

night back then. You know, everything was pretty much shut down except for your police officers and us teenagers that was out and about. But I had it, like I worked third shift in this convenience store. So I would have a couple of friends that would come by and hang out. And, you know, we'd be talking about ghosts, Bigfoot, Lachnus, Monster, UFOs, and just anything kind of creepy. It was mainly ghosts, but Bigfoot would every now and again trickle in.

And one of my friends knew a guy whose name is Jan Allen. He has since passed away and his brother. and he asked if he can bring them up, you know, to the store because they had a Bigfoot research team. I was like, well, yeah, that'd be interesting. So, you know, they come up there. And, you know, we talked and over time, you know, they would come up every time I was working. And just tell us different, you know, stories and how their research team got, you know, together and stuff they were doing. And they asked me to go.

And I was like, no, I don't need to do that. I said, I believe they exist. I'm not trying to prove anything. I ain't going to prove nothing. To me, I just don't, I asked a question, why would they not exist? So over time, I would go down in his house and he would show me different videos and tapes and newspaper clippings and stuff.

And that got me kind of interested. And I said, okay. So if one of my buddies, if he goes, I'll go. It was like it was a deal like that. So they had a trip planned for October of that year. And I wound up going. My other buddy never did go. And I've been doing it ever since.

That's how I got started. That's what kicked it off. Wow. I mean, that's, well, I mean, was it one of those things? where on your first trip, you know, you just got hooked after actually getting out there then? No, all right, so on my first trip, I think it was the second night. I got charged by a mountain line. That was interesting.

But it was the third day. You know, I said, I always believed in Bigfoot. It was never a thing of mystery to me. I just know that I knew that there was a bipedal walking primate in the woods. When I saw my first print, like up close first footprint, that's what really, that's when everything sank in. Like the belief became a reality to me. You know, the reaction most people have if they see,

that was the reaction I had when I saw the print. And, you know, ever since then, that's, you couldn't tell me there's not. That's what, that's what sunk. That's what, you know, I will say, grabbed me into the research field was seeing my first print. You know, I agree with you. It's like the way you put that is just, it's so great, you know, you transfer over. from belief to reality. I think that's how you said it, right?

And it's a perfect way to say it, man, because then it's like, oh, they're out there, and I know where they are. So I want to go out again and see if I can get a little bit more evidence. Like, what's stopping me from going out there again? I know where they are. I mean, it just totally changes the way you view things.

It's wild. Those were the first steps into, you know, researching, like research and researching, not just looking stuff up, not just knowing that I know, but I'm going into these mountains and look, you know, type thing. Now, you'd mention that you'd also been charged by a mountain line or a cougar as well. Did you actually see it then? No, I didn't see it. I heard it coming.

And all right, so this was, like I said, this was at night. and we were going out, we were on this fire road, and we were probably a good 100, 200 yards outside of base camp. And at the time, I didn't have a gun, but there were two others. There was a guy that was probably 50 feet in front of me and another guy 50 feet behind me. And they had, they had their guns. And then we were walking up the fire road, keeping up, keeping the same distance. And I just heard, duck. and I can hear this thing coming at me.

Like doing that number, just coming down the hillside. And they shot up over its head and it took off running back up the hill. And you can hear it. You can hear it growling. That's funny because at the time, this is crazy. I was afraid of guns at the time. I had never shot a pistol in my life. any kind of firearm for that matter.

And I was afraid of guns. But after that, I said, I'll never, ever come back up here again without no kind of gun. And that right there got me into firearms. Just that. Bigfoot research has kind of really, in a sense, changed the trajectory of my life. When I, if I, you know, thinking back and the things I do now, the things I'm into, now and all of that. It took a turn when I started researching Bigfoot. Interesting. Did you find that, so were there certain skills that you picked up that you

wouldn't have had in your life because of your research into Bigfoot then? Yeah. Oh, yeah. One main skill, like, I'm not a tracker. I'm not going to, I'm not one to be tracking. I'm not a tracker. Like, if I see a track, I can follow it for the most part. But if it gets where it's like, you know how people will see an overturned leaf and can tell whatever walk there. I'm not that. You know, if I see a track, I can follow the impressions as far as they'll lead me. And I can kind of look around and kind of sense where a direction may be going by, you know, gang trails and stuff like that. But the main thing I say I've learned is an awareness in the woods.

and aware just the other day I was at work and I just noticed just thinking about this this stuff I would have never even thought about if I had not been researching. At my job there's a patch of woods and I go by there

this particular patch of woods four or five times a day. Well, I noticed in the morning you could barely, like we have a fence and then there's the woods. Where you can barely they see 10 to 20 feet back there in the woods in the morning, like when the sun's just coming up.

During the afternoon, you see probably an extra 10 feet beyond what you would see in the morning. But in the evening, when the sun's, like I'd say around 4 o'clock at this time of year, you can see 100 feet in the woods. in that same area. And I was noticing how certain parts of the day you're able to see further and see more in this particular patch of woods. And stuff like that gets me to thinking how at a certain part of the day,

a saskwash can come up close and you'd never see it. You'd never see it. But if it's at a particular part of the day in the same spot, it'd be wide open to you. You'd be able to see everything. So it's just stuff like that,

an awareness of the woods and awareness of my surroundings. That really, that's one of the, I'd say one of the traits that I've definitely picked up on through Bigfoot research. Georgia has come up on the show a few times. Usually we're talking about northern Georgia. We talk to a lot of people,

witnesses from Chattahoochee National Forest L.J. Cherry Log and even over in northwest John's Mountain area, there's been a few people from over there and there's some

really interesting things that happen in that northwest area even as crazy as the Blue Ridge LJ area I would think. So you know for listeners that might be new Georgia is not just peach trees and plantations that you get up in the north and there's some serious serious bigfoot

activity going on oh yeah and actually and i mean i can give this location away where we where we researched at was about about 30 no not that far about 10 or 15 miles above rome place called tidings little town called tidings and the mountain the mountain the mountain we were on is called Taylor's Ridge. And we researched that area for, see, I started in 89, and they were actually researching that area starting the group I was in. It's called Georgia Bigfoot Research and Investigation. And as far as I know, we were the only group at that time doing any kind of Bigfoot research that I know of. they were researching that area in like 85, 84, 86, somewhere around in there.

And we documented, and when I say document it, I'm based on tracks, different size tracks, eight different creatures living in that area. That would, you know, if we went up there in the summer a couple times, nothing happened, absolutely nothing happened. We went up during the winter a couple of times. Nothing happened. All of our activity was spring. Like I want to say like maybe early spring and about midfall, somewhere around in there.

April, around April and May and October is when a lot of our activity would happen. So we figured that these creatures wasn't living on Taylor's. risk, but they were traveling through. Like in the springtime, they would be going to a location, and in the fall, they would be coming from that location, going back to wherever they were living at. We've heard about rumors of a mountain up in that area called Dirtseller Mountain. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment.

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This product is not intended to diagnose, treat cure, or prevent any disease. One of the rumors at that time was you don't want to be caught on dirt cellar mountain at night. And now we were, I think dirt seller mountainous runs into Alabama, I think. Because we was, we wasn't, we was not able to get up on that particular mountain. And back then, we would have to, to get on Taylor's Ridge, we actually would go to the Forestry Commission and get a key to unlock the gate. You know, they would shut the mountain down to us while we were up there. So we were the only human beings up there on that mountain.

until they started opening up more to the public. And it was on, it was down in the ridge called Jenkins Gap that I had my first sighting. And as we were down there, me and two others, we were just, you know, we had just walked down there. This is two, three o'clock in the afternoon. We had just walked down there, just, you know, kind of looking for signs and stuff. I caught a glimpse of something take off. And I'm going to say, it was probably about good six foot, five, six foot tall, but it was running. And I immediately just took off after it.

Didn't give it a second thought, just took off after it. And I'm following it, but it's pacing me. Like it's not leaving me, and I'm surely not gaining on it. We kept the same distance. And if I had to guess the distance, I'm going to say it was probably 50 yards ahead of me when I seen it running. And I was watching it go through trees, and I was just keeping up with it. I couldn't tell you what happened to the other two. The only thing I had with me at that time was a single shot shotgun with birdshot, and I had

one round. And it, we, I couldn't tell you how long we ran, but we ran and then I didn't see it no more. And when I didn't see it no more, I stopped. And when I stopped, the other two, whoever was, that was with me, they were not there no more. They either went back to camp or just stopped running. And I didn't know, they wasn't there. I was by myself down there. And it was deafly quiet.

now like I said this is two three o'clock in the afternoon there is no birds chirping there is nothing no crickets cricking there is no wind blowing it is definitely quiet and I just when I when I when I stopped I just like I said and I hollered this out loud I said listen I'm not running no more and I'm not running back to camp so if you want to follow me, you can, but I'm going to walk back to camp. I'm not running. So, there you go. And I back to, like, back up, turn, and I walk back to camp. And you can, you can hear them every so, every, every, every so often, they would, they were pacing me. And I say they, I'm, I'm figuring there's probably three because I was probably chasing a Gentile.

and I got about good 100 yards outside of base camp, and they stopped. And, you know, I'm thinking they probably figure, this dude no lost his mind, and we're just going to help him get back to camp and leave him alone. That's what I figured they were thinking. So they didn't do nothing crazy, you know, and every time we were up there, you know, these things didn't, there was nothing threatening about them whatsoever. It's very interesting because you did run after it. And that's not a normal thing you hear in accounts like this.

But what was your motivation behind just taken off after it and seeing if you could catch it? Okay. So that happened. Like I said, my first trip was in 89. This was probably 92 or 93. When we would go up there, these things were circle the camp. I mean, it was a normal occurrence from the circle to camp. And we would go out after them.

They would, when we would go out, we'd hear them come and they'd circle the camp, we would go out. And we was trying to see one, trying to see one up close. Pretty sure we walked past them a few times. We would go out, they'd stop wherever they were doing. doing. We didn't see nothing. We'd come back to camp. They'd circle the camp. We'd go out. This, you know, this thing would go on from time to time. So there was, I was never afraid of them. There was never nothing threatening. Like, for example, I've never personally heard one in person scream or holler. No, the only audible that I've heard is a,

grunt here or there. That's it. So they didn't put out, they didn't put any fearful vibes. So and, you know, to me, I just, I didn't, I never felt threatened by them. So when I saw it take, when I saw it running, it was just instinct, just take off after it. I've never, I've never had a fear of them. And that was, that was, that was, that was the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, one. Then I guess five or six years after that, me, my father and my ex-father-in-law, ex-life, and my son at the time, he was a baby, we went up just camping out.

You know, because there's, there's areas up there that you can just camp and it's just, you know, we're not doing no research. We just nice area to camp. And we were camping out and we were getting loud. So the, the and wanted to go to bed. So me and my father of all decided we were going to walk down to the creek and just hang out down there. And how this place was, you had like a little trail, creek ran along the trail. And as you got to go down onto the creek, there was a little bend that would, you know, you just kind of walk down and you're in the water.

So we were, as we were walking down this little trail, we get, as we were going to the, the bin, this thing steps out. And it didn't step out into the clear, but it stepped to the edge of the brush. It was like, it didn't hear us coming. We didn't hear it. And we started each other and just stopped. And you can see its eyeshine was like reflecting off of the campfire, camp light. And it started, you know, doing its bobbing and weaving. and like just rocking back and forth deal. And my father-in-law, he didn't necessarily see it at first. And I hit him. I was like, what is that?

Because I'm pointing, I was pointing up. This thing, this is probably eight feet, eight feet tall, at least. I'm pointing up looking at it. And he's looking eye level. When he finally looks up and sees the eye shine, he started to draw his gun. I stopped them from drawing his gun because he was going to shoot it. I was like, no, no, no, don't do that. So we stood there. It looked at us. We looked at it. It gave a grunt and turned. And it sounded like elephants going through the brush at that point. It was like it didn't even care anymore. It just, he's like, well, so of course, next day we get up. We look at the, you know, see the print, see where it went through the brush. And that thing had a good, it was a 14, 14. 14.5 inch track, I believe.

that's a good good sizable track for sure oh yeah this I always find it interesting how areas are first found is there a story behind how the original

researcher that found that this Jenkins gap was a area with Bigfoot in it is there an interesting story behind how this area was found to begin with Yes. So you remember the tabloid, the sun? Yeah. That tabloid paper, the sun?

Sure. Okay. So actually, this guy, I can't think of his name, but he went up on Taylor's Ridge. And basically him and his friend were planning to go on Taylor's Ridge to pick ginseng. And the friend got sick. said, you know, he couldn't come up right then. He'd come up later, meet him up there. So the guy goes up and he's picking ginseng.

So I think they had set up a time that they were going to meet or a time that he was possibly going to be there. So the guy's up there picking ginseng. He's picked this, and where he's picking that is in the place where I chased that creature and Jenkins Gap. And he, you know, he's picking ginseng, and he catches movement out the corner of his eye. what he thought it was his friend. So he hollers, hey, I'm over here.

And so he goes back to doing what he was doing. And he said, you know, after 30 minutes, nobody showed up. He figured from the distance that he saw the movement to where he was, it wouldn't it took no more in 10 minutes or so. So after a little while longer, he said the hairs on the back of his neck stood up. and when he looked up, this thing was standing there looking at him. He said, and this is from this story, he couldn't run. His legs were locked.

He couldn't move. He said, the thing stood there, looked at him for a minute, like blue, turned, and walked up the ravine. And he said, the thing walked with a limp, it looked like it had to. been injured and it walked like dragging its foot up the ravine and he said when it got the site he took off he called the sheriff's department the sheriff's department called the forestry commission and i think i don't know how it got in that sun newspaper but the team i was in they called the son which got them in touch with the guy and the sheriff department and that's That's how we got up there.

And back then, it was known that there were creatures in that area. It was known by the Georgia Forestry Commission that there were creatures in that area. They had been seen in cemeteries. They had been seen like rummaging through trash and all that. That's that is quite a statement to put out there. Are there interactions you had that that made you think that, yes, the forestry department is aware of those creatures being out there? Well, for one is, now this is, like I said, this is back late 80s, early 90s.

Right. For one, they knew we were a Bigfoot research team. We had to go through the Georgia Forestry Commission to get up there. They would ask, what have we found? What did we see? did we capture anything? They knew us by name, and I don't want to disclose the gentleman's name that we knew by name, but we knew him by name, and he would come up sometime and talk with us about various other incidents in that area.

Now, it's not like that now, of course, but they know. They may still know. I would say I don't think they ever don't know, but they, I believe they do know just not, they don't want a whole bunch of people up there on that hill, you know, looking for this thing. Oh, yeah. I mean, that totally makes sense. Now, when you say it's not like that now, are you saying this area does not have a lot of big foot in it now, or your interaction with the forestry department is not like that now? The interaction with the forestry department is not like that now. Got it. Back then it was pretty, back then it was pretty much like a buddy system. You know, like when we first got up there, like they already had this relationship established when I came on board with the team.

And it was, when we set up, when we would decide we were going to go, we would call the, we would literally call the Georgia Forestry Commission, ask for a particular person. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment. So I talked to my doctor about self-injecting with the Vivgard-Hytrullo pre-filled syringe, which contains F-Gartegamutal-Alpha and highlaronidase QV-F-C. It's injected under your skin subcutaneously. It means I can inject in my space on my time. It's my treatment, my way.

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This person would then let us know the best possible time, have us. We would then go up there, pick up the key to the gate to that mountain, and they would close off the mountain after we got there. So we would be the only humans up there on that mountain researching. Oh, my goodness. Any evidence that we found, we would let this particular individual know. And he would, now, he was not like a government official that would take it and hide it. He was literally on our side and interested in the topic.

That is so unique. I mean, I would wager that individual if he's still around is probably retired by now. That's what an interesting individual with some very interesting stories I would wager. But wow. Do you think that area is still, well, I know, I guess, north in that wilderness area, there's quite a bit of Bigfoot activity. Do you think there's still some down there in the southern part as well? Now, I haven't been up there. The last time I was up there on that hill was 2007. And as activity began to die down around 2003, 2004,

And what was happening was it became more populated. They became more hikers. The last time we camped up there where our base camp sat, we literally had people on horseback riding through our camp. So, you know, at one point, they would shut down the mountain. We'd be the only humans up there. And after this person, you know, left, you know, that no longer was the case. They removed the gate.

so you no longer needed to call them to come up there. It was just open to the public. So you had a lot of foot traffic hikers going through there. Now, I honestly believe if the creatures are still there, they're more out of sight or people are seeing them and just not necessarily reporting them. Sure. But I, you know, and then there's a whole mountain range up there. So it's possible too.

Like I said, this is just me speculating because I haven't heard anything come out of that particular mountain where we researched that in a while is there's a whole lot of mountain ranges. So, I mean, you know, by the foot traffic coming up through there. And also there's been some storms that has hit that area also. They could have just moved to another mountain because I fully believe there was a family pod up there of at least. eight creatures, and by now it ain't like they dwindle, I'm pretty sure they multiplied. So there's no telling how many is up there or where they're roaming at. How were you able to tell that there was eight different individuals there? Eight different footprints.

Okay. Now, all right, so the biggest one, this one we found on one of our last day trips, we had just poured a 13 and a 13 and a half inch track. We ran out of plaster pairs. We were packing up, getting ready to go. And we parked our cars in the line. And at the last car, you know, at night, you would be just outside the light radius. We can go use the bathroom.

Well, there was a tree behind this last car. And as we were packing up, the girl was packing up a car. And she hollered for us to come look at this. And we walked back there. And it was the prettiest 21-inch footprint that you will ever see. And we didn't have nothing to pour it with. It was about an inch, inch and a half in the ground deep. Where we had a guy that was there.

He was 350 pounds. Couldn't even put a dent into dirt. Oh, man. This thing was a monster. It's a different time because, you know, today's technology, you could just do a 3D scan of it, but back then it was plaster or nothing, right? Yep, yep. Because all we had, it's, it's, oh man, I think about the, if we had the technology we have now back then,

the evidence we could have gathered would be incredible, incredible. All we had was a mag light, our pistol, and some plaster pairs. and, you know, your general camp and stuff, camp compasses and stuff like that. Because we were, we were a poor rag tag group, you know, we, we didn't have a lot of money. So we worked with what we had. And, you know, it produced, it produced, especially like when they would come around camp. And, you know, I got to make this, this caveat here, too, is that, you know, I can, as I'm telling these stories, it seemed like stuff happened every time we went up there and that's just not the case there were

there were quite a few times more often than not that it was just a camping trip because you know we were trying to figure out when are they moving exactly how when and how or when are they moving so we would try to plan according to the previous year's activity you know and when we when we hit it on the dot we hit it on the dot They would circle the camp, throw stuff into fire, you know, have us run out there after them. Then we go back to camp and they just do their thing. And then there'd be times where we'd go up there and it'd just be just a camping trip. Not the first thing.

So like these things, you know, these events that's happened were few and far between. But, you know, like we said, we had eight different tracks. The smallest track was like 11 inches. the biggest one being that 21 then the one that was crippled he had like a 15 to 16 inch track and you would see you could tell his track because you would see his footprint and you'd see the drag mark I fully believe there was a family pot up there if it you know I mean it could very well still be there just in a different location in that mountain range oh absolutely in that area would you ever hear any strange vocalizations or sounds in the woods?

That's the thing. The only thing I've ever heard was like a low grunt. Okay. No wood knocks. Didn't hear no wood knocks. Well, I take the bad. Heard a whistle. Heard a couple of whistles once or twice.

But no real like hollers. One of my, like I used to tease, I was like, man, I would love to be. hear the screen from the Boggy Creek movie just to be up there one night and that thing just cuts loose right and i just i've never never heard the holler never heard to holler that's one of that's that's that's like a bucket list thing i would be so satisfied to be out there you know and i mean nothing else can happen but i just hear that holler with my own ears that's like a bucket list thing for me. The strangest thing I've heard was we were walking down.

And so when you go down into Jenkins Gap, you've got to make it's like a zigzag pattern down into the ravine. So we're about, we've been, after about the second zig, I guess you'd say, I heard a tree get pushed over. And I say pushed over because it was, It wasn't a wind. There was nothing windy, nothing like that going on.

It just was, you heard. Then I was looking at my buddy. I was like, what the heck was that? So that sounds like a tree. I was like, yeah, since it's down there in the bottoms, you want to go? He's like, yeah, let's go down there and look and see what it is. So we walked down there. Sure enough, tree was pushed over.

And we're looking around like, I mean, it was a live tree. Why was it, you know, it didn't just break and fall over. it was pushed over. So, you know, we look at each other. It was like, did we make something mad? I don't know. So we're standing there. He's on one end of this tree.

I'm on the other end of the tree. And we're probably good 30, 40 feet apart. I'm at the trunk. He's at the top of the tree. And we're looking for footprints and stuff. And simultaneously, we hear, just like that. I look up and I look at him and he's looking at me.

Did you hear that? Like, yeah. Where did it come from? I was like, I'm being honest. It sounded like it was right next to me because I felt like I can feel the wind from it. He said, that's weird. It sounds like that to me too. And we didn't see nothing, didn't hear nothing, didn't find no footprints, nothing.

I'd say that was the weirdest thing that's ever happened to me. That is very strange. Thinking of all the different times that you've gone out over the years, has there been a time where things have escalated in a way that you kind of became uncomfortable with? Once. And uncomfortable is a perfect word to put it, Because actually I went and sat in the car after that one. Same location, but we were at the area where it walked out with me and my ex-father-law.

We were camping at that area right there. Actually, we were camping down on the creek at this particular time, close to it, rather. And I was a Saturday morning. Everybody got up, and they went back into town to pick up some supplies. So I stayed in camp because I just wanted to take a quick wash off and everything. So I'm in my tent and I got my clothes off, got my little pot of water, and I'm soaping up. And I hear, whew, and at first, you know, I'm thinking it's an owl. But it's 11 o'clock in the morning.

You know, you know, I know howls out 11 o'clock in the morning. So I'm, you know, I'm going, I was like, well, I'm still in my mind thinking this is a now. So I continue to soap up and then I hear it again, but from a different location. And I was like, man, come on, you've got to be kidding. This is not happening right now. And just as quick as I got that thought out, and I heard it again from another location. And I was like, oh, no, no, no. So I hurry up and wiped off real quick.

And I stopped and listening. And they were, whew, who, and it was closing in on me. And I just, I got dressed and went and sat in the car. I said, not the day. But I didn't see nothing. I didn't see anything. Just heard the hooting. That's the most uncomfortable I ever been.

Yeah, I'd not be a fan of that either. I'd be like, I don't know, guys. Like, how close were they getting, Donnie? I don't, yeah, I don't know. And I say I haven't heard the vocalizations, but, you know, thinking about it, I've heard some, I couldn't tell you. Because I was, I was just, you know, I just know they were, it was closing in.

The first one I heard was like it was a good distance away. That's what made me, I was thinking it was an owl. But it's 11 o'clock in the morning, you know. and as time went on and I say this this probably went on for 15 minutes because they it wasn't they wasn't they wasn't they was not gone three minutes before the first hoot went out and what I'm thinking is either they didn't know because I was in the tent so I don't think they knew I was even there I think they were coming to check the camp out

till they see me bolt out the tent and get in the car. Then they were like, wait a minute. Whoops. And they never, they never showed themselves. I don't know what I would have done if I'd have saw three or four them creatures just walk up in the camp. You know, I don't know what I would have done. Man, you know, that kind of thing, it's like,

your view of the world is going to change a little bit. You know, it's... Yeah. yeah I've not had a visual yet myself but I mean I've had I've heard vocals

that have sent me from well it was it was the vocalizations that sent me from belief to realization pretty much and it was just like oh my goodness so you've you've mentioned how you did have some visuals in the past.

Is that the main time when you were able to have a visual of one? Or were there any other events as well where you've had a visual of something? Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment. So I talked to my doctor about self-injecting with the Vivgard-Hytrullo-pre-filled syringe, which contains F-Gar-Tigamodalpha and High Loranadase. QVFC. It's injected under your skin subcutaneously. It means I can inject in my space on my time. It's my treatment, my way. Visit Vivgardmyway.com. That's VyVG-A-R-T-Myway.com. And talk to your

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Sure. And it ain't that I didn't believe or watch certain things or look things up. I kind of just, you know, life, trying to get life together and stuff like that. So I kind of back, yeah, I backed away from actually getting out there doing it. The team members, two of the team members that the founding team members passed away of that group. A lot of, you know, a lot of the members were older, you know. So it kind of like just fizzled out. Now, there were two members, because we were, at one point, we were trying to revamp the team.

And there were two members in there that after we kind of fell up, didn't fall, I won't say fall apart, but just wasn't able to get out there like we were. But two of the members, you know, did start their own research team, and they've been researching for a while. And they joined with another team. and one of our, you know, founding members have passed away also. And I've been researching with this group here lately for the past. I guess it's been, hang, it's been almost two years now, maybe three that I've been researching with them now. I haven't seen anything yet. Heard some rumblings, you know, in the brush, but I haven't seen anything yet.

Yeah, all my visuals have been between 89. Well, I'll say that my first one was like 92, 93, somewhere around in that time period. And like five years after that, those are only two. So when you're going out now with this other group, is it researching the same area or is it a new area? It's a different location. It is a different location. and it is there's been a lot of sidings, Bigfoot sidings and other things also that has been in this particular area. Yeah.

Yeah. Now that's, now that's, you know, what's what I find interesting is, and I can't help. It's, I can't help but compare because there it's, it's such a vast difference. When I started, you know, you had to either cold call somebody and hope they would talk to you versus now everybody is talking about Bigfoot. There are so many research groups. There are so many, you know, it's just, it's like a cultural phenomenon now. I mean, you've got big foot everywhere. And that is so strange to me.

You know, I'm glad that it's at the forefront. But it's at the same time, I'm like, if it's that much in our culture, what is the problem with going ahead to say this thing exists? Right. You know, we have, you know, so, you know, I get, and I, you know, at work, of course, you got people that want to ridicule and stuff like that. And, you know, I don't kind of buy into it. I just, you know, they'll ask, I'll tell them, tell them the truth. I'll tell them what I think, you know, they can like it or not. They're like, well, why ain't they got one?

I said, I'm pretty sure they do. Well, how come they ain't letting it out? Because folks like you, you go, y'all go crazy. They say this thing exists. Next to you know, you'll be 100 folks out there in the dang woods trying to see one. And then when they hit throw you out, and when they throw a rocket you hit you the side of the head, then you want to shoot everything. I was like, no, I was like, they're out there.

I said, you know, there's, we got so, we got so much evidence. We know what it does. We know where they live. We know how, we pretty much know how they live. We pretty much know their diet. We pretty much know their size, their weight. We kind of know their attitude. We know everything.

We just don't have a body. And I honestly think, there are some. that are in captivity, so to speak. It ain't that it's, it ain't that they're in a cage, but they're in protected forest lands that you're not allowed to go into. They're being watched,

they're being monitored, they're being studied before they come out. And I think it's the same thing they did with a gorilla, from the first reporter's citing of a gorilla to its capture. You're talking 150. years, almost 200 years. That's very interesting, Tony, but, you know, thinking about it for a little bit right now, I mean, I don't think it's out of the question, but you would have to have massive amounts

of land that could be shut down to the public. Exactly. Hence, our national forest. Oh, yeah. There are places in a national forest that are not, the public is not allowed to be. Not even that. How about this? In Washington State and Oregon, they got big foot crossing signs.

Oh, true. Yeah, yeah, they do. They do. It's in the culture out there. No question about it. But can you think of specific areas that you've heard of in National Force that are shut down to people not being able to go into them? If I'm not mistaken, there are parts of Yellowstone that's like that. Okay.

Yeah. I think you're right, yeah. There, what's it? Mount St. Helens, that some of, some of that is shut down. I don't, I don't know exactly the places, but there are, you know, specific locations where, you know, you can't go on. And also, there's some national forest lands where you can't carry a firearm. True. That is true. It is a, it is a very interesting.

thought and I'd be interesting to see where people could take that. Maybe they have examples of their very own of places and different national force that they could put maybe in the comments on YouTube. Who knows? But I also, man, so I was going to air in 2025, of course. I think that pretty soon we're probably going to get a whole ton of information on stuff in the sky. We'll leave it at that. My personal Bigfoot podcaster hat on is

I think if we're going to get stuff in the sky soon, the chances of us getting stuff on the ground by the end of this year is so high. It is absolutely high. I mean, it just makes sense. Like, I think

what it's going to take is the right person needs to have the connection with the current president in 2025 or the incoming president and be like, hey, you know, while you're, while you're putting all this other stuff out there, you know, the stuff up in the sky, why don't we just throw some of this, you know, Bigfoot stuff out there too? They can handle it. I can see it. I mean, it's going to take the right person. Maybe that listens to this podcast. That could be like, hey, President Trump, let's let's throw it out there, see what happens.

I don't know. That's just me talking. But, yeah, the right person with the right connection. Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, and I honestly, I honestly think with people like Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum, you know, and scientists like him that are taking the subject seriously, you know, that adds weight to it. And, you know, and beforehand there was Dr. Grover Kranz. Yeah. You know. And that adds weight to the subject of big. I think one of the one of the one of the one of the main issues with putting it out as a viable creature is the name bigfoot just then just a sheer name of it you know and I think that just makes it I don't know I want to say it makes it comical but it's it's a name that's hard to take seriously like you know Sasquatch or some other super long name that they'll attach to it you know because a gorilla is something, it's not actually, you know, scientifically, it's not called a gorilla. It's called something else. Sure.

But it's a long name or something, you know. No, I mean, what will happen is, is most definitely, if it gets to the point where it's discovered by science and it's proven by science, they will give it a scientific name and it won't be called, it'll be called Bigfoot by half the people. and the other half will, you know, it'll, who even knows what kind of weird name it'll have then scientifically, yeah, be like North American, maybe even, who knows, they might even go with North American WoodApe, but something like that. But, you know, you've kind of alluded to it already, but just to bring up the question, so you studied Bigfoot for all these years, there's so many different ways to look at what Bigfoot could be. What is your personal view of what we're dealing with when we're looking for Bigfoot out there? Now, a lot of my teammates and a lot of

modern researchers, I think, are not going to agree with me on this one. But I honestly think we're dealing with a flesh and blood, bipedal, primate. Nothing more. nothing less. You know, I don't think they come from another planet. I don't think they're a spiritual being. I just think they are a and another upright walking ape. Now, having said that, there is an extreme intelligence level, but chimps and apes, all primates are intelligent.

they are super intelligent what makes a saskatch seem to be more intelligent is it just walks upright like us when we go into the woods what we're expecting to see is a horizontal line in the woods that tells us that's an animal

you know everything else is upright except animals they are horizontal So when you see something horizontal moving through the woods, you can bet you're, that's pretty much a wild animal or a fallen tree. However, with a Sasquatch, you're looking at something upright. So you're not going to see him as easily as you would see a deer walking through the woods or a bear or anything like that because it's walking upright. The only time you see it if it's moving. you know one of my favorite bigfoot footage other than the Patterson film is the the freedman film

where he's following the track and he looks up and there it is just walking through the brush looks back at him like what are you doing here and keeps on walking and mr. Friedman's heard saying there he goes there he goes you know that's what we're looking at is an ape. That's my personal opinion on what a Sasquatch is. That is very interesting. Mine is, I would say at this point right now, it's definitely, I do believe it's some sort of physical creature.

I'm going to turn this into a question before I say the next part. So how if you, if, you know, you're believing that you're dealing with a physical creature, primate, how do you deal with the reports that come in where it's just some really, really out of left field things that are reported when these creatures are around? Okay, so on some of it, I just simply say, I have no idea. I am not afraid to say, I don't know. And, you know, I'm not going to try to discredit or brush off what somebody claims that they saw. You know, that's not why I'm here. You know, that's not what I'm trying to do. There are instances of misidentification, which I understand that.

Now, there are where you'll have a lot of Bigfoot sightings, and then you'll have, in connection with that, you'll have a lot of UFO sightings, which people will tend to say there is a Bigfoot UFO connection. All right. My argument with that is in that same area where there is a heightened UFO report. there are also deer there are also bear there are also other wild animals in that same area where you got this UFO phenomenon going on

so but we're looking for Bigfoot in this area or a Bigfoot has been cited in this area does that mean that there's a connection between Bigfoot and the UFO and if if we

can deduce that there's a connection between Bigfoot and a UFO, then couldn't we also deduce that there is a deer UFO connection also? You follow what I'm saying? I get you. Sure. Yeah. Where there are UFO sightings at, a lot of them, there is also wild animals there. and if Bigfoot is a wild animal like a deer a bear or anything like that then the you know would there be a connection or is it just happens that the Bigfoot is in the same area where there's a UFO just like the deer the bear or any other wild animal that's that's interesting to think about for sure you know because I you know there's you got like for example Gettysburg right

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But there's deer there also. There's other wild animals there. And these things are going to happen whether the animals there or not. You know, that'd be the same thing with if a bigfoot was in the area. Yeah, there's paranormal activity going on there, but these things would happen if Bigfoot is there or not. We just so happened to be researching Bigfoot in the area where there's paranormal going on. Sure.

You had mentioned something earlier where, and I'm not sure if I heard it correctly, but it almost sounded like you were talking about one of the areas that you were researching not only had Bigfoot, but maybe other creatures as well being seen? Yeah, where we're currently researching, there's been some paranormal activity going on. Reports of a dogman thing. Okay. Something like that. Other, like, other cryptids like Bigfoot, ghost, UFO sightings, orbs,

high-strain stuff like that. which me personally I think it's I think a lot of that is spiritual stuff and I like to say for me I take a biblical approach to a lot of this stuff I think a lot of the paranormal the orbs UFOs these varying cryptids I think that you know come from a spiritual aspect I mean absolutely I mean you know as in the days of Noah right I mean, weird stuff is going to start to come out. And I don't think it's going to get any less crazy the further we go out. You know, and I think it's going to be, it's going to come out more.

You know, I'd like to put it this way. The devil used to hide his ways. Now, it's open. See, he's just doing stuff because it's accepted now. you know it's people are more accepting and what i mean by acceptance acceptance is they're they're open to it they you know they believe it they see it you know versus before it would be taboo to talk about something like that it'd be you know now that it would be shut down immediately right versus now people are yeah that could that could be it that can

exist. That can happen. So it's just, it's open. And what I think, this is, you know, is you have, I'm going to say divine beings doing a repeat of the days of Noah with mixing things, corrupting God's creation, so to speak, you know, how everything is to reproduce after its own kind. The seeds are not supposed to be mixed. And I think you're having mixing. of seeds going on, hence that's a dog man. You know, a canine mixed with something to

make it be able to walk on two legs rather than four. Werewolves, you know, humanoid creatures, not Bigfoot, but other humanoid that just, you know, you look at them, you can't, what the, you can't even describe

what you're looking at, things like that, you know, that are able to appear and then disappear. You know, I think we're dealing, I think we're, you know, we're seeing a lot of this stuff. It is so interesting because, you know, you mentioned that the devil really doesn't seem to be hiding it anymore, but yet it feels like there are other people trying to hide it.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Because they don't know what to do with it. I think, you know, honestly, they just don't. know what to do with it. You got this stuff out there. This, for example, if you was to, you take, if you had a Bigfoot encounter, you know, just say one walked across the road right in front of you. And you don't have an outlet where you can share your experience confidently,

without ridicule, without looking, being, you know, looked at a certain way. You just, you wouldn't share it. you would try to rationalize it away. And I think that's where a lot of people are. And, you know, one of their outlets, fortunately, is like a podcast like yours, all of the Bigfoot Research Group. People are open, you know, it creates an avenue for people to explain what they've saw, what they've seen.

Sure. Because people are seeing stuff. People, I'm not going to deny. people are seeing things, but what I believe they're seeing is not what they think they're seeing. I believe it's manifesting in a way that to them, it's able to be explained as to what it is, to what they're seeing, but I think it's all has a, I want to see a spiritual background to it, to some degree. it's it's there can be such an interesting conversation when you're you're talking about that i would assume you're probably talking about things that are not bigfoot yeah yeah because i you know i i i

think bigfoot honestly i just i really believe bigfoot is just like a deer or a bear that's in our forest but there are other things that's attached to big foot that i'm going to say that we have attached to Bigfoot because there's still some things we don't understand about the creature itself. One thing in particular is how you can follow a track line and it just disappear.

You know, I don't know what happens to it. So, but I'm a say, I don't know. But there are others who will say, well, maybe it walked through a portal. Maybe

it dematerialized. Maybe it dematerialized. maybe it blinked out of this reality you know and those other explanations come because we don't know what happened to the we don't know why the track line disappeared

you know did it go down on all fours and begin to walk did it climb up a tree did it you know we so there are still certain mysteries about Bigfoot that we have yet to grab a hold of or grasp. So a lot of other things, I think, get attached to Bigfoot because of those mysteries that we don't have the understanding of yet.

Oh, yeah. I mean, absolutely. And I think that's part of the allure of it. But, I mean, I'm thinking just to my own experience. I mean, I, in Oregon this summer, I did, there was, I was sitting in a chair in an area that was extremely active. for about like five minutes, I couldn't move out of the chair. That was very strange.

Wow. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe that was some infrasound, but there's like, there's so many questions, you know, there's the whole infrasound thing.

There's people that claim that they get, you know, telepathic communications or people that start to have weird things happen at home after they've been in an area that is active where they've had a sighting. they start to have, you know, paranormal type things happen at home. Like, what is the connection there?

It's very interesting. Yeah, and I'll tell you, I don't have an answer for it on that. I don't know. And like that, now that infrasound, I find that very interesting because Big Flint, the only creature that has infrasound. Right. Tigers have infrasound, and they're purposeful with it. Like, you know, I'm sure you've heard your cat purr, right?

That same purr coming from a tiger produces an infrasound because it's so deep and low. Elephants have infrasound. Any large mammal or an animal that has a larger, large lung capacity will produce infrasound. Sometimes, you know, some animals use it intentionally, like when the lion roars. and it freezes things in the woods, that's infrasound. Now, I think by default, you know, you're not in Oregon. So the Sasquots out there grow big. They grow big.

I mean, in Georgia, we're dealing with, you know, like that 21-ish track was big, but that's an anomaly. because the average sightings here, they're roughly six to seven at the most eight feet tall and they're lanky. They probably weigh five, six hundred pounds maybe. But in Oregon, I'm pretty sure they get upwards of 900 pounds. I want to say, I think the tallest one on record, this was a couple years ago, was like 13 feet tall, probably weighing a thousand pounds

that thing's going to produce some infrasound just in breathing you know and you're sitting in the chair and God knows how many is around you that you just ain't seeing

and they're just breathing and they got you locked in the chair just because of that low rumbling infrasound yeah it was It was weird. It produces a fight or flight sensation. It can paralyze you.

It gives some people severe headaches, makes dizzy, can't hardly see. You know, it affects individuals differently. But the aspect of when you go home and you're away from it and paranormal stuff stirs up, I couldn't tell you. I you know what I would think that is is there is something demonic about whatever you encounter if it even was a big foot and not something else and that's just again that's trying to that's trying to that's speculating on a mystery sure exactly yeah you know it Yeah, it's just, it's, it's, it's very, very interesting. What, you know, people that have connections somehow to this usually have other things happen in their life or are connected somehow to other paranormal type things. It's just, it's a very strange thing that I've, I've noticed over the different interviews that I've done. And, you know, maybe we'll never know why, but it is part of the mistake.

for sure. I think it's just really just, really just mystery. It's like, you know, I was interested in the Lochness monster. But I can't go to Scotland to look for it. So, you know, I can just read about it. And, you know, I have my opinions about what it is. But like my dad used to tell us ghost stories all the time. He was able to see them.

And he would tell us, oh, man, he would tell us so many ghost stories. It's crazy. Have us up all night, scared, just scared. just scared. But and Bigfoot was just, you know, sit up on a Saturday night and watch a Bigfoot movie. But it, to me, one of my favorite movies was Grizzly Adams, one of my TV series rather. I love that show. And I always wondered why he never come in contact with a Bigfoot. He come in contact with every animal in the fours, but he never came in contact with a Bigfoot. I have, that I, in any of this, you know, that I know of.

Right. Huh. Because I think that would have been the, to me, that would have been the, the greatest thing to me. Because I've just never, I, Ms. V asked me a question on one of her podcasts about the dark side of Bigfoot. You know, people that have been attacked and people going missing and, and, and all that. And I've never thought about that. She, you know, she opened my eyes up to a whole

another realm of this creature that I never even considered, never considered. I knew you don't want to make them mad. You know, I knew, you know, you respect, you know, when you go into the woods, you respect, you respect the woods, you know. So I knew the, I knew that, but I've never looked them as like a rogue one going mad and hurting people and killing people. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment. So I talked to my doctor about self-injecting with the Vivgard-Hytrullo pre-filled syringe, which contains FGar-Tigamutaphma and Hylaronidase QVC.

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This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. I never thought about that until she brought that up. And, you know, like me chasing that thing, that was, that was, if I didn't knew then what I know now, that wouldn't have happened. You know, that wouldn't not have happened at all. I wouldn't have left the people I was with out of just oh you see that let's see if we can follow the tracks type thing I never would have chased it there's been other times where took off after it you know when they come around camp but I never would have done that but the the possibility of these preachers because again we're dealing with a wild animal we don't know what it's will do. A lot of times, and I have fallen into this where I think I know what it'll do, you know, I believe I know what it'll do, but the truth of the matter is, I do not know what it will do. I do not know how it's feeling that day. I do not know how it's going to react.

So, you know, could some of these missing people be, could they be victims of a rogue Sasquatch or just a curious one where you're alone on a trail, it's there and it just carries you off. That's very highly possible. And, you know, I can base that on

Albert Osman, who got carried away and was kept until he gave it snuff to get away. It wouldn't let them leave. You know, and that was what, in the 50s or 20s or something like that. And if he hadn't given it no snuff,

he'd have been a missing person. So there is this, I don't want to say sinister side, but this, we cannot negate that this is a wild creature that we're dealing with. I would say you definitely, you know, if you are going to be out

and going researching, Have your wits about you, let people know where you're going. Exactly. You know, be, have some form of protection with you, however you view that. But yeah, at the end of the day, I mean, you know, if you are looking at them as some kind of physical creature, you know, if it's animal, if it's cornered, it's going to act differently. if there are, you know, very young juveniles or around, you know, sometimes the adult, you know, creature can be more protective. So, you know, you have to be aware.

You can be putting yourself in some really interesting situations. But Tony, it's been a pleasure talking to you tonight. Another area of Georgia that we hadn't, we've never talked about Jenkins Gap before on the show. So it was extremely interesting to hear about it. is there a way that you know if people want to reach out to you or do you kind of keep in the shadows a little bit or or how do you view that well i'm kind of just here okay all right i have i have an email it is tony g 389 at gmail dot com if anybody wants to reach out that's that's my

email you don't have a website or nothing like that just just got my email email. And I'm, you know, I'm open to really discussing the subject. You know, it's, it's fun. I have a good time doing it, you know. And you meet some fantastic people. You meet some fantastic people. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's, I would say that's half the fun right there is the people you meet along the way. But yeah, Tony, thank you so much for, for opening our eyes about Northwest Georgia there. And thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure. I've had a great time. Time went by fast. And it's been fun. I just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you, all my listeners, for listening to the podcast.

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