Bigfoot Society - "I was Trapped inside my Tent and it was Outside" Bigfoot in New Hampshire with Brian Garvey

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Starting point is 00:01:42 I look over to my dog to see what he's doing. Now, like I said, when Chui sees an animal, dear a lower, he's going to chase that freaking thing. He is just staring to the direction I heard the steps. And he's not moving, man. He is on high alert And he is not moving I'm rocking Looking in between the trees

Starting point is 00:02:09 Like this See, I don't know why I started doing that I think it was I wanted to stay quiet I didn't want to keep like pittering around I wanted to see if I could see what was doing that All right, Bigfoot Society Thanks for coming back to another episode I've got the privilege of talking to a new friend

Starting point is 00:02:32 Mr. Brian Garvey tonight How's it going Brian? Very good Jeremiah, good to be here man Awesome awesome So, Brian, you are a New Hampshire-based outdoorsman and hiker, correct? Yes, yeah. Since 2018, I've been hiking. Oh, that's awesome.

Starting point is 00:02:49 So tell me a little bit about that. I know you've got a friend that goes hiking with you as well, and I'd like to hear all about that. Chewy? Yeah, totally. Oh, okay. Well, this started 2018. In 2015, I should jump back to the. that I started getting into exercising and wanting to lose weight.

Starting point is 00:03:13 And I'm always looking for that extra, just that next activity to do. And because you kind of get, you get tired of running. You get tired of going to the gym. I want something outside that I love to do. And I came across in 2018, my girlfriend now wife, took me to Mount Washington. Now, Mount Washington is located in northern New Hampshire. It's in the presidential range.

Starting point is 00:03:46 It is the highest mountain in the northeast, 6,288 feet around there, roughly. I'm in the ballpark there. Big tourist destination. Finding Bigfoot in, I believe it was one of their last seasons. They went to Mount Washington. and did an episode on New Hampshire. And that was eye-opening for me just because of what happened to me way back in 2003. It opened up my eyes and really got the light bulb go off in my head of what's going on up there.

Starting point is 00:04:29 Because I just, I didn't know when I, the first thing I thought of Bigfoot was when I was a kid, Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack did an episode on Bigfoot. It was like the first or second season of that. And I was just a young kid. And it was probably the first time I ever saw anything on Bigfoot. And when you see that, that PG film, as a kid, you're in awe. Like something in the Pacific Northwest that big can remain hidden.

Starting point is 00:05:07 for so long. So that kind of got the, we're talking 2003. You know, I planned a trip. It was a trip with my girlfriend and my son. My son was five and a half at the time. So we wanted to do something special at the end of the summer. This was August of 2003. So he was going to be starting kindergarten. So he was five and a half. So kindergarten was starting a couple of weeks. We want to do something special. Now, up in New Hampshire, in Glen, New Hampshire, they have this amusement park called Storyland. It's based for children. And I've never heard of it. I've never been to New Hampshire. At the time, I was 23. So I'm like, oh, what a great idea. Get out, go see what the mountains look

Starting point is 00:06:00 like. It was great. It was beautiful. So we were going to spend two days, two nights, three days, at a campsite in Glen, New Hampshire. Now, Glen, New Hampshire is, it's in northern New Hampshire. It's right past the presidential range, Mount Washington. So, first night went great, spent the whole next day at the park, came back to that day, tired, set up the camp, you know, had the campfire go in, and they went to bed early because it was a long day. I stayed up until it was time to go to bed.

Starting point is 00:06:36 You have to put the campfire out at a certain time. So around 10 o'clock, I put the campfire out, went to bed. Now, for me, and still to this day when I hike and do overnights, I can't, I have issues falling asleep in a tent. I just, I can't sleep on my back. I am constantly a tosser and a turner. I know, like when I go on these big hikes, I know I'm not going to sleep. I'm just going to toss and turn and I suffer. I'll suffer, but I'll suffer because of my love for the mountains.

Starting point is 00:07:09 Like, I will get up and I'll hike the next morning. So that night, I'm just laying in the tent. And it was hours. Hours I was laying there. And I'm almost, I'm getting, you know, I'm getting mad. I'm getting aggravated because I know the next day, like we have this big drive coming up, like a four-hour drive home. And I'm like, I got to go to sleep.

Starting point is 00:07:34 Now, the campsite, like the campground we had, it was right on the bend of this brook. And it was probably like nine, ten feet wide where we were, the brook. And it was fast flowing water. So, you know, it was something you could rock hop across because there were boulders. But it was nothing I didn't want my son to get next to because of the, you know, for his age and the way the water was moving. I'm like, you can't go next to this because on the other side was just, just wilderness. So we were on the out, like right on the edge of where the campground ended. So that night, I'm just, I'm listening, I'm laying there. I'm listening to the water, you know,

Starting point is 00:08:15 I'm listening to all the crickets. You know, you hear like little mice, you know, the little mice going through the leaves, you know, I'm listening to that. And I'm like, man, I'm like, I have to go to sleep. So I'm just laying there on my back, looking up, all of a sudden, I hear this impression stop going across the tent. Now, at first, like, when I heard it, it scared me. It scared the crap out of me because I'm like, who is this jerk messing with me and my family in the middle of the night? I thought it was, you know, I'm thinking it's a person just messing with us, like a drunk

Starting point is 00:08:55 camper messing with me putting his hand across my tent. So you know how nylon is loud when you, a tent is loud when you rub against it. And that's what startled me. But I was able to pick up the impression of the hand probably by the door of the tent. Now, this tent was a big tent. It was like an eight person 10. It's one you could stand up and walk around in. So we had all our stuff on one side of the tent.

Starting point is 00:09:21 I was in the middle. It was my girlfriend and my son on the end of the tent. So my feet were at the door of the tent. And so when I saw the impression above the tent, because I could see, you know, like, I could see the digits going across. And I'm like, I go up on my elbows and I'm watching. I'm about to get up. I'm about to get up and I'm about to open the tent. I'm going to see who is this jerk messing with me?

Starting point is 00:09:47 Who is this jerk trying to scare me in the middle of the night? So as it made it across the tent, I'm going to unzip my sleeping bag. And as soon as I start to do that, I hear a growl. I hear this this growl. It was the deepest growl I have ever heard. I have ever heard in my life. It went from a growl, a guttural growl to a grunt. And when it did that grunt, man, my earloves vibrated.

Starting point is 00:10:20 Like it vibrated my body to where I dropped right back. I dropped right back down. I put the frigging pillow over my head. And I just, I was so confused. I went from being angry and mad to want to confront this person to be like, after I heard that grunt, I'm like,

Starting point is 00:10:43 that's not a person. A person, a person cannot do what I heard. And it was with such ease. It was just, it went from a, I heard the breath. the breath to the growl to the grunt.

Starting point is 00:10:58 So it was just seconds. You know what I mean? It was just seconds. But I was so, I was so confused. Just I was confused. I was scared. And I just, I fell right back down. I put the pillow over my head.

Starting point is 00:11:15 And I just, I waited. I waited. I was so scared. Because I didn't know what, what could do that. So my first motion. was like, I'm going to turn and I'm going to look, I'm going to see if it woke up my, my girlfriend, and they are heavy sleepers. They were sound asleep.

Starting point is 00:11:34 Now, people ask me, like, well, was it loud? And it wasn't a loud, it wasn't a scream. It was just a very deep guttural growl to a grunt. And it blew my mind that it could vibrate me like that, because that's never happened to me before. The closest thing I could compare it to is going to a concert. You get to that front row in front of a speaker, and you got that guy on the base, and it's rattling through you. That's the closest I can tell someone what that feels like. And after that happened, like I told you, I was listening to the crickets.

Starting point is 00:12:21 I was listening to all the little animals. after that grunt, after that vibration, it went dead silent. There were no crickets. It was dead silent where I couldn't, I couldn't, I didn't, I couldn't move. And I don't know if I couldn't move from the fear or if it was from that, that rattle in my chest, that vibration. It was something that I, it was, it confused me so much. they stayed sound asleep. They were sound asleep.

Starting point is 00:12:59 Now, after that all happened and it went silent, I just laid there. I laid there and I couldn't move. I didn't want to move. I didn't want whatever it was. I didn't want it to know I was up. I didn't want it to come back. I'm thinking of the direction it was going.

Starting point is 00:13:20 It was going in the direction, and if it came back, my son was on the end of that tent. I'm thinking about that. This is all running through my head. I'm thinking about I don't want this thing coming back. You know, I'm trying to think of animals. What animals could do that? Because that's my first instinct.

Starting point is 00:13:40 Bigfoot was not, not even in my mind. It was nothing I thought about at the time. It wasn't even a thought. I thought it was in the Pacific Northwest. I'm like, if there's one, There's one in the Pacific Northwest. That's what I thought. It was just, it blew my mind.

Starting point is 00:14:00 It just, it blew my mind to where I, I didn't feel safe. I didn't feel safe till it started getting light out. And I finally was like, like, I finally had that sense of relief. Like the bird started chirping. And I finally felt, I felt safe. I'm like, whatever animal that was is definitely gone by now because it's been hours. It was hours I was laying there. And I remember that morning, I was so close to just, I was so close to saying something to my girlfriend.

Starting point is 00:14:37 But I didn't want her to say, oh, it was just a person because it wasn't a person. A person cannot do what I felt with that vocal. There's no way. It was an effortless grunt. And it was the deep, it was so deep. So I remember after that, like I got out, I went outside the tent that morning. Now, I'm on no sleep. I'm on no sleep.

Starting point is 00:15:09 I didn't know what to look around for. You know, I wasn't sure, but we were rookie campers. You know, my coolers were out. Like, everything was out. Our marshmallows, our marshmallow sticks. Didn't touch it. Nothing was touched. Nothing was moved. And I was so confused. Like, I'm even looking, on the ground we were on, it was a hard gravely kind of hard dirt, hard gravel. I looked around for like, I first thought bear because I couldn't, I hadn't, I couldn't think of any other big animal in New Hampshire that could do what happened. And then I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, Really, I'm starting to think about it. I'm like, a bear is not going to stand up on a time legs.

Starting point is 00:15:58 Run its pore across my tent, right? Without putting a frigging hole in it with its claws. Like, it baffled me. I'm like, there's no way it's going to make that, that vibration. Like, I've never heard of a bear doing that. And it bothered me. The whole ride home, I was just so close to just saying something. but I kept it to myself.

Starting point is 00:16:22 Now, I kept this to myself for 18 years. I told nobody, nobody. It was just a heavy weight that was on my shoulders for all these years of just not knowing. Now, I remember for a couple days after we got back, I had such a hard time going to sleep because it was all I was thinking about to where I finally said, Brian, I just forget it, man. Like, just forget it. Like, you're safe. Nothing happened.

Starting point is 00:16:52 Your family's fine. Just forget it, man. Like, you don't know what it was. So for years, years, man, I didn't know. I didn't know until Monster Quest comes out, 2008, 2009. So we're talking five, six years. I had this weight on me. And when they talked about the John Maynizinski Ten Counter,

Starting point is 00:17:17 It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down. And for a second, there's doubt. But then I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at.

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Starting point is 00:19:22 He was messed with in his tent. Now, he just did an interview about a year ago on another podcast where he went into great detail, great detail on what happened. His tent was wrecked. His tent was wrecked. It was pushing down on it. And he saw the silhouette, though. He saw the silhouette when he got out of the tent in the tree line. That got the ball rolling in my head.

Starting point is 00:19:46 And then Monster Quest does one in New York, does the Whitehall. They did a New York episode. They're talking about the guy that felt the vibration, that even his pant leg, like he felt the vibrations in his leg. And it just, everything, everything came rushing back to that night,

Starting point is 00:20:07 the tent for me. And I was like, oh my God. I'm like, maybe that's what happened to me that night. Because I was, I still didn't have any answers. to what happened that that night and when i heard that the wheel stopped going in my head and i'm like oh wow but i still i still wasn't for sure i didn't tell i still it was something i still

Starting point is 00:20:35 just kept to myself then finding bigfoot like we just said earlier goes to what goes to new hampshire and i'm like oh i'm like i got to watch this like i got to watch this i got to see what they say because I'm not going to knock finding Bigfoot. It was a great. It was an eye-opening show for a lot of people to show what is really going on. I loved when they talked about the town hall meetings. I loved when they talked about people's encounters and going to the sites and showing where the encounter happened. And one of the guys they had on was a guy that was camping out in his tent on Cherry Mountain. Now, this Cherry Mountain is right next to Mount Washington,

Starting point is 00:21:21 which is right next to where I was camping. So I'm starting to connect the dots. I'm starting to connect the dots. I think I'm finally getting some answers to what happened to me that night. So when he said that, he was getting sticks, branches, rocks thrown at his tent, until he was scared off the mountain.

Starting point is 00:21:43 He was scared off the mountain. Something scared him off the mountain. And I was like, oh my God. I'm like that. I think I had a similar thing happened. It wasn't rockstone against my tent, but it was finger. Like, you know, it's been 20 years. It'll be 20 years this August that tent encounter happened.

Starting point is 00:22:08 It feels like it just happened yesterday, man. Like, I can just, I can just, I can just close my eyes. And I can just picture the impressions going across, man. And then the power of the vocal is just, it's something. I've had some, I've had a few traumatic things happen to me. But the one I think about the most, the one I think about every day is that night and 10, man. Because I have not, since this has happened, I have not been able to camp alone.

Starting point is 00:22:41 I can't camp alone. can't go out in a tent by myself. You know, me and my dog, Chewy, he is on every adventure with me out in the mountains. And I need to go to a tent site. They have these tent sites in the White Mountain National Forest that you can stay in. You pay the caretaker a fee. It's like 15 bucks a night.

Starting point is 00:23:04 You get a little tent platform, but there are other hikers there. I am fine with that. I can camp with other people. I can stay out with other people alone in my tent. If I am out there, I can't do it. I have chickened out twice trying to, you know, stealth camp on one of these hikes. And I'm just like, no, just go to the tent site, man. Like, I wasn't, I haven't been ready to do that until this year.

Starting point is 00:23:31 I am finally going to try to do that. But we'll get into that story a little later. So that was like 2015, 2016, it was one of finding Bigfoot's last seasons when I heard this. So for me, since then, in 2018, I started getting into hiking. I did my first mountain, which I said before, Mount Washington was my girlfriend. And I instantly, I instantly fell in love with mountain hiking. I love the quiet. I love the solitude.

Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm one of those hikers. If I have the trail to myself, like, and I have a mountain. mountain peak to myself. That's that's my lottery. That's my goal. There's nothing more that I like than having that to myself. So for me, it's the solitude of the mountains. It's the reward at the end with the epic views. So 2018, I'm going on this big hike. Like after that, Mount Washington, I had to look up. I'm like, what other mountains can I do in that area? So, I find out there's this list called the New Hampshire 48. Now, the New Hampshire 48 is 48, 4,000 foot peaks in New Hampshire that you can, you know, just do as a get you a little reward and get a little patch at the end when you finish, you know?

Starting point is 00:25:00 I'm like, oh, that is great. That's something I could do with my dog. But you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to document every hike. So I have a GoPro for me. And now I have a GoPro for my dog, Chewy. So I put a GoPro on him. I got to go pro and I'm just I'm vlogging as I'm hiking I'm you know I it's not I don't have it on

Starting point is 00:25:21 constantly but clips of just perfect views and where I'm at and what I'm doing and we've been doing that for it's oh five years now wow yeah so we finished we finished 48 in 2021 um but now I've gone on to you know hiking from mine Maine and all up in these, these, these areas that there's not a lot of people. You're talking Maine is the, like the percentage-wise, most forested state in America, like forested population. Absolutely. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:01 And along with Vermont and New Hampshire, those, those, if you want, if you want solitude, you want, you want to go hike and be in a quiet area where there's not a lot of rural or a lot of people, that's where you want to go New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine so 2018 we're doing this big hike now this hike is called the Pemi Loop

Starting point is 00:26:24 now they call it the Pemi Loop because you're in this section of the White Mountain National Forest this White Mountain National Forest is 800,000 acres of protective forest it's a massive

Starting point is 00:26:39 that's massive Like, it's mind-blowing. It's a lot of land. And you have these pockets here and there in New Hampshire where it's just protected forest. There's maybe one trail going in. You might have a trail a few miles away. But it's just you in that trail in rugged wilderness. Now, the one thing I want to say about how rugged it is in New Hampshire, I mean, they don't call the granite state for nothing.

Starting point is 00:27:10 You know what I mean? Exactly. It's granite. It's rock. I mean, your feet doing a big hike. By the end of that hike, your feet are junk. You know, you're carrying a big multi-day pack, like a 40-pound pack over mountain peaks. Now, this Pemajaset, it's a big 31.5 mile hike over 13 mountain peaks.

Starting point is 00:27:36 Some people do it in like a day. the nuts, the runners, those marathon, like those, those, you know, ultra marathon people, we'll jog it slowly and it will take them like 16 hours. We do it in a day and a half. We're pretty fast hikers being chewy, but we'll do it overnight. We'll stay at a campsite and then we'll finish it the next day. So I'm on my way up this trail. Now, this section of the Pemma Jawaset Wilderness, it's 46,000. acres of the 800,000 acres of the White Mountains. It's the biggest area of the White Mountains

Starting point is 00:28:16 in one area because it's broken up through the state, the White Mountains. So we're on this trek. I'm like, we're going to bang out 12, 13 peaks. I'm like, this is great. So we're on a way up. Now, to go into this area, you have to go into the Lincoln Woods now. This Lincoln Woods there's this bridge you walk across. And once you walk over that bridge, over that Pemmy River, it's just you in the wilderness. There's no cars that can get in. There's nothing.

Starting point is 00:28:52 It's just pure solitude. Now, this Lincoln, this Lincoln Trail, this Lincoln Trail, this Lincoln Wood's Trail, it breaks up to this Lincoln Brook Trail and Franconia Brook Trail. We're taking the Franconia Brook Trail. the Franconia Brook Trail up to the one section to go to do a whole full circle of the mountains because the mountains, it's like 12 mountains in a big circle and in the middle is the Pemi Wilderness. It's just where no one goes.

Starting point is 00:29:24 Nobody goes. You know what I mean? There's no trail going right through it. So it's forest that there's not, there's some people, there's places that people haven't even gone in there. You know what I mean? Oh, absolutely, man. It's, you know, I grew up in western Massachusetts in a town called Northfield.

Starting point is 00:29:47 Oh, yeah. And so my father was big into the outdoors. And I hiked all of Connecticut in Massachusetts on the Appalachian Trail with him over the years. And I know exactly these areas you're talking about. New Hampshire and listeners need to know this is nothing to mess with at all. This area that Brian is talking about is life or death type stuff. Absolutely. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:22 Unfortunately, that there have been a lot of deaths on Mount Washington. Oh, yeah. They have a list up when you get on the peak, you go into the conservatory, and they have a list of all the people that died. and even just in the White Mountains alone, we had, I think, four deaths this year of, you know, you could be at the bottom. You could be at the bottom of the parking lot. You could be in shorts and a T-shirt.

Starting point is 00:30:46 It'd be, you know, high 50s. You get up into the 5,000-foot elevation range. It could be a whiteout. This came over, yeah. The weather changes on a dime up there. And if you're not prepared and you venture off trail just a little bit and you and you get lost, it's going to be very hard to find you because you don't have cell service up there.

Starting point is 00:31:10 If you don't have, if you're not prepared with like a beacon or I carry a garment with me, I carry a satellite phone just in case. Unfortunately, we had a 19 year old pass away this year. You know, she was trying to finish her 48 and she had like eight mountains left. And she just, she just lost her way. on a place I've been a few times and it's easy to miss where you're going to go and end up in a gully and then you're lost and unfortunately she died on her birthday. So it's stuff that happens in there if you're not, it's just a lack of preparation.

Starting point is 00:31:50 And like you said, it's nothing to mess with one because you could go four or five yards off trail and sometimes you have trouble finding that trail again it's happened to me a few times and I am so lucky I carry a Garman that has the map it has the satellite map and I can get back on trail because there's been a few times where I'm like oh no I got a normal trail so we're going up this this Lincoln Brook trail now you're pretty much following Brooks from miles on these on these trails and you're in a ravine, the ravine in between these mountains. And I'm going up this trail. And it was in July we're doing this hike.

Starting point is 00:32:39 Some of these trails you're in very, very, it's like you're going in a tunnel. You know, the foliage is so thick. It's almost like you're in a tube of a wave. It's just that thick. I'm walking. I'm la-di-da. This is my second time filming, okay, with a GoPro. And I'm just going along, I'm going to chewing on the side of me.

Starting point is 00:33:05 And as I'm walking on this trail, about nine feet up from me, this branch shakes. No, it scared the crap out of me. As soon as I saw it out of the corner of my eyes shake, I just did a 180, man. And I go back about 30, 40 yards, okay? I gather myself. And I got my GoPro. And when that happened, everything from 2003 just rushes back to me. That feeling of being scared stiff.

Starting point is 00:33:41 It brought back that night at the 10 to where I was so confused. I was so scared. And I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, I'm going to see it. Like, I'm going to see this thing. I'm finally going to see it. Like, I'm getting my answers. I'm waiting for like two minutes, man.

Starting point is 00:34:04 Two minutes. I got the GoPro going. Just standing there just with the GoPro. Chewling on the side of me. And all of a sudden, you know, I'm still seeing the rustling. And I'm like, oh, my God. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up?

Starting point is 00:34:22 What if I'm not ready? I see a whole. highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down, and for a second, there's doubt. But then, I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at. The early mornings, the extra reps, the days I wanted to quit and didn't. So I smile. Self-doubt is natural, but my smile is a reminder that I'm resilient. To put more smiles out into the world, Colgate has supported female athletes for over 50 years with the Colgate Women's Games.

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Starting point is 00:36:26 People don't understand how scary that is. And it wasn't a little moose. This thing had a full rack. First time I've seen Moose in real life besides on TV. This is the first time I've seen Moose. I went from like pure like almost glad because of what I thought it was because I was scared, man. To almost like, oh my God. I'm like, is this thing going to charge me?

Starting point is 00:36:55 I'm like. They do. Yeah. I have no weapon. I carry a tactical. pickle knife. I don't have a gun. This thing is just out on the trail and just eating the vegetation. So that's what I was doing when I saw the branch shake. But I couldn't see a damn thing. That's how thick the vegetation is. So when people say, oh, how come like a Sasquatch,

Starting point is 00:37:20 how come, you know, something eight feet tall, you can't, you know, you can't see it. Dude. Go into the White Mountain National Forest. Go when it's full foliage. You can't see three, five yards in. You can't see. I couldn't see a freaking 1,200 pound moose. I couldn't see it until it came out onto the trail. Oh, yeah. So I'm like, I'm there scared.

Starting point is 00:37:45 I'm still filming the damn thing. Now, I look down at my dog. Now, what I have to say about chewy, because it comes into a factor later on what's happened to us out there, any squirrel chipmunk, deer. Anything deer and lower, he's going to chase. He is going to beeline it and he will chase. I will scream at the top. My looks chewy. There is no, he's just, it's like a shark, it's like a shark sensing blood. He just boos. Oh, wow. He was more scared than I was when that moose popped out.

Starting point is 00:38:23 Like he did, he did not want to move. I was on that trail man for three or four minutes. not moving, wave that damn moose to get off the trail so I could keep going. The thing is, I had to drag Chewy. Now, he has a harness on him. And so I am dragging him to get by this moose, which was probably by the time I got by the moose, it was probably about 15 yards in, but I'm like, this is my chance. This is my chance to get by this moose. So after all that happened, my adrenaline is crazy.

Starting point is 00:38:56 It's just my heart is like, pa-p-p-pah-pah-pah. I was so thankful nothing happens. Like I don't know anything about moose like the rut, you know, like I didn't know. Oh, you didn't know anything about moose steering? I didn't know. That's horrifying. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know.

Starting point is 00:39:13 I'm not going to make noise that go hide behind a tree because it's just going to knock that freaking tree right down coming at me. I just stood there's still, still, still. I was so scared. Oh, man. So after that happened. All I could think about, all I could think about was that night at 10 and what happened to me that night. It brought back that fear, that fear of being scared stiff to where I'm like, I'm like, I remember when I finished that hike, man, as soon as I got home, I was never a YouTube guy.

Starting point is 00:39:49 You know, I was never a tech guy. I didn't start watching YouTube until 2018. I never got into it. So I'm like, I got to find answers. I got to find answers. And what happened to me that night. You know, because the shows gave me, you know, like I said, the light bulb went off a little bit with with those monster quest and finding Bigfoot. Right.

Starting point is 00:40:13 I got thinking about that. So I go home and I put in New Hampshire Sasquatch. And Coas County Wood Devil pops up. I'm like, no good. I'm glad we're going here. I was like, I'm really curious if he's gone here before. I'm glad to break this up. Dude, when that popped up, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:40:35 I'm like, Sasquatch, little did I know. Back in the late 1800s, early 1900s, when they were encounters back then, they didn't call them what we call them now. They called them wood devils. Yeah. Wood devils and hairy men. And I that sent me dude Anyone knows who gets into this

Starting point is 00:41:00 Sasquatch realm You go down that rabbit hole I went down that rabbit hole man And I was just Sasquatch Chronicles pops up Oh yeah Chronicles didn't know what it was Oh wow yeah

Starting point is 00:41:14 And then I saw listen to a couple episodes I was hooked I was hooked I was listening to it at work all day I have my earbuds in, almost in the Sasquash Chronicles episodes. I went all the way back to episode one and I just listened to all of all. And I'm hearing, I'm hearing all these similar encounters. I'm hearing these tent encounters.

Starting point is 00:41:39 In New Hampshire, I'm hearing a woman's tent encounter in her yard in New Hampshire, camping with her kids, where a juvenile Sasquatch was running and went along their tent and rubbed across they attend and I was like oh my god I'm like the I was a it's happened to other people but I'm finally getting these answers so wow so that was 2018 that happened and I didn't it didn't you know I still didn't say anything to anyone because it's very taboo up here in the northeast Absolutely. Absolutely, dude. And that is a big problem up here. You don't hear a lot of, you don't hear a lot of encounter.

Starting point is 00:42:33 People don't tell what's going on. For one, a lot of it happens on private lands. Like I've talked with Alex Petikoff and another buddy of mine, Evan. He goes by New Hampshire Sasquatch. He's another guy that collects, he collects eyewitness data on account. And they've collaborated together, him and Alex, and they have a map of these cluster areas in New Hampshire where there are these these encounters and sightings. And it just blew my mind. It blew my mind. And like I said, I'm doing a lot of these hikes in this wilderness. And this one hike comes up. This hike is called Owls Head. Now that sounds really familiar.

Starting point is 00:43:20 This owl's head is in the Pemmy Jawasset wilderness. Okay. This is a 17.2 mile hike. You're going, just to get to the base of the mountain, you're going eight miles into the wilderness. So I'm taking that same route. Like I said, I took the Lincoln Brook Trail on that Pemmy loop. And the other trail, when you veer off to the left, is the Franconia Brook Trail. Oh, yep.

Starting point is 00:43:50 So I'm on that Franconia Brook Trail going up to this going up to this Owlshead. Now this Owlshead, this was number 43 for us on the New Hampshire 48. So I was getting close to the end. I was doing a lot of hiking around that time. 2019, I really started really just every other week. And I am just going and I'm banging out mountains and I'm banging out mountains. This is the one no one wants to do because let us.

Starting point is 00:44:22 alone it's a 17.2 out and back hike, but it's a viewless peak. There is nothing to look at at the top. So it's it's one of those like, ugh, like let's just get it out of the way. Now it's turned out to be one of my favorite hikes because of what's happened. So we're on this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and a half miles in, you come to this, it's a pond. It's called Black Pond. So I take this, it's a bushwhack I could take to save me like 0.2 miles. It was 0.4 miles total to save to do this. Brian, that's the start to a really bad story. Okay, so I'm going to bushwhack in the middle of the Pemi Wilderness. It's a, it's a fairly, it's a trail that a lot of people use, but they don't

Starting point is 00:45:14 paint it well. So you do have the foot traffic to where you can follow it pretty, pretty well. But I mean, gorgeous, gorgeous area. I'll send you a picture of it. It's a beautiful area. It's a pond in the middle of nowhere, like glass. You know, it's like looking at glass and you get the mountains coming, you know, the mountains in the background and you get in the mountains on the water. Just a beautiful area. I'm like, oh, go to a perfect spot for me and Chewy to have a water break. say where I'm at with my GoPro and stuff and what we're doing and we'll just get back on this bushwhack. So now when I'm on these hikes, like, Sasquatch is not on my mind 24-7.

Starting point is 00:45:56 Like, I'll listen to a podcast on the way up. You know what I mean? I'll listen to a story on the way up. Once you get into that mode of hiking, it's not thinking about that stuff, you know? So we're about halfway down, halfway done with this bushwhack. And I'm just going la-di-da now. What I want people to know is like, I'm not filming constantly. Anyone that has a GoPro, those batteries do not last, you know.

Starting point is 00:46:28 So I'm just, I am doing highlights of the hike, like a few minutes here. I'll say what I'm doing, a few minutes there. You know, I'll turn Chewys on when we're at like a peak. I'll put Chewis GoPro on. and get his point of view. So we're on this path. And all of a sudden, I hear this.

Starting point is 00:46:46 Whap, whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, six of them, six of them to where my eyes were flinching.

Starting point is 00:46:52 I was flinching it was that loud off to my right. Like someone banging a hammer and you don't know they're going to bang the hammer and you're next to them and you're like, you like that, you're like flinching. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:47:03 I was so confused. The first thing I thought of was Woodpecker. You know, You think of the first animal that can do that, that is, that comes to your mind. I first thought woodpecker. And I'm like, like, that can't be a woodpecker. That's not enough to make you flinch like that, though. It's way too loud.

Starting point is 00:47:22 It's way too hard. It was very hard and fast and just six of them. 12 to 15 seconds go by and I get six knocks to my left. A little further away, a little further away. And I was like, oh my God. I'm like, it just happened over there, but a little further away. 12 to 15 seconds later, I get six knocks way off to the front of me. At that time, I pop on my GoPro.

Starting point is 00:47:57 I pop it on. I'm like, holy shit. I'm like, I just heard Knox in three different directions. I'm saying what's going on. I'm so used to doing it on my hikes that it's. to me it's like my GoPro I'm talking to a person that is like my safety valve you know what I'm saying I'm out of here myself you know I'm going out to these places it's just me and the dog so that's kind of my lifeline I kind of look at it so I'm saying what's going on I mean I'm F bombing I have it

Starting point is 00:48:29 all I have it all on camera you know what I mean I'm saying what happened and and I was just so I was so confused. And I was like, oh my God, I'm like, I'm hearing Knox in three different directions, six, six, and six. I'm like, that's, that's, it's not an echo. I'm like, it's not an echo. So I do my thing. I'm walking on the trail. It was a few minutes. I have the GoPro going. So I put Chewys GoPro on and I'm like, I got to see, I got to see if it happens again. I was in that area. I was probably like, it was like 10, 15 minutes. I'm going, I'm just, I'm kind I'm pacing back and forth, man. I'm pacing back and forth.

Starting point is 00:49:12 I'm looking around and it's quiet. You know, you hear the occasional bird, you know, but it's just quiet. I'm watching my dog. I'm seeing how he's acting. And he's sniffing around and kind of looking around, but he's not on that high alert. So I kind of was like, like, oh, like, okay.

Starting point is 00:49:30 So I like, say my GoPro, I'm like, all right, I'm just going to keep on going. Shut my GoPro off. Dude. Ten seconds later. six knocks again to my right. Oh, man. I was like, I was so afraid and confused because it's never, I didn't put any stock into the

Starting point is 00:49:54 Knox ever in these stories where I hear these guys banging on trees. I'm like, what are you doing, man? I'm like, come on. Like, you're banging on trees. Until it happened to me. And I was like, oh, my God. I'm like, what the hell is this? That. And of course, in the back, I'm starting to think Sasquatch.

Starting point is 00:50:16 After the six knocks, three knocks to my left, same distance a little further away as the once prior. And right at that moment, I felt like I was in a crossfire of communication. That's what felt like at the time. And I was so, I wanted to see what was doing it. because the ones to my right were the closest. And those were the ones that kept going first before the rounds again. But after the three to the left, three to the freaking front of me, the ones that were far away, it happened again, three.

Starting point is 00:50:56 So six, three, three on that second round of knocks. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of every. everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down.

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Starting point is 00:52:57 These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Gold Pro goes back on. I'm like, it just happened again. Now, anyone that wants to watch this, I put it up on my channel. Like, it's just raw and unedited. Oh, yeah. No, it's going to definitely be in the show notes. It's, I mean, it's, it's a required watch for sure.

Starting point is 00:53:19 I sent you a few things. Yeah. And that's one of them. That was one of them. And I got so scared because I don't know what those knocks mean, man. Oh, that's the thing. No one does, right? No.

Starting point is 00:53:33 So when I see these guys knock and I'm like, what are you doing? Because you don't know what that means. Yeah, man. I'm going out with guys that like to knock, you know? And I get scared when they knock because I'm like, dude. Dude, you don't know what that means, man. You can have as much fun as you want to bang in on that, but you don't know. Because when I'm going out on like these researching, you know,

Starting point is 00:53:55 investigations with Alex and stuff, I'm not a knocker, man. I am one of those guys who want to sit and be quiet and just let nature come to me. You know what I mean? Let their curiosity come check me out. I don't want to, I'm not swinging anything, man, because I don't know what that means. Well, as all this is going on, I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, I got to call Alex. That's awesome.

Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah, totally. I didn't know who to talk to. I'm going to skip back a minute because the first time I came out with my story of what happened to me in that tent. It was like a month after my dad died. I was in such an emotional. I was in such an emotional state. That was December of 2020. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 00:54:49 And after that happened, I'm thinking about this heavy weight that's been on me with this, this, this, this, this tent thing. Because I kind of had a clue what it was. But I still haven't told anyone. And I remember going on a winter hike. And I was just so ready to just, I needed to just, I needed to just say it. So I had my GoPro. I just started filming myself as I'm hiking on this winter hike about what happened to me in that tent. And it was like a 16, 17 minute video of me just, it was my first time ever it coming out of my mouth.

Starting point is 00:55:27 And I felt so good after finally saying it, even if it was just to the camera, man. It felt so good to say it. But it was something that I sat on. I sat on it for a month. didn't post it on my channel. I waited because I didn't want, like I was saying, it's very taboo up here. I didn't want, I didn't want to get that look. I didn't want to get that look like, oh, this guy's freaking crazy, you know, like he's spewing this crap. He doesn't know. I didn't want that for my family. You know what I mean? I didn't want that. I didn't want to be

Starting point is 00:56:06 let down. Do you know what I mean? I didn't want that negative feedback from it. You know what I mean? I get it because I grew up first 20 years of my life were in New England. And it's like it's a lot of there's an unwritten thing where it's like you just shut your mouth. And you're not the guy that starts talking about stuff. And I wasn't into Bigfoot back then. It's like I heard maybe one thing growing up about something weird. And it was like about coy dogs. It wasn't Bigfoot.

Starting point is 00:56:42 There was old timers on a porch talking about coy dogs. if you get that. But I totally am with you, man. Like in that area of the U.S., you just usually don't open your mouth about this. You don't. And especially, you don't, like I said, you don't want to, you know,

Starting point is 00:56:57 I don't want to tell my, you know, like my mother or my girlfriend and have a look at me like, like that, give me that look. I didn't want to be let down. So when I'm like, you know what? I'm like, I'm going to upload it onto my channel. and I'm going to see if someone will reach out to me to see what to see if I could have someone

Starting point is 00:57:21 to talk to about it. So I put it out and then I finally shared it on social media. I put it on the Sasquatch Chronicles fan page on you on Facebook. Oh, he's solid. Yeah. Yeah. So I just got this outpour of comments. I bet.

Starting point is 00:57:39 Positive comments that I was like, oh, it felt. so good finally to have other people share their stories with me that I've had something similar happened with feeling the vocals or people from New Hampshire that watch me and be like, oh my God, like I didn't even know what was going on up here. Like people like I was like, oh, like it was such a weight being lifted off my shoulders after 17 years of not telling anyone. So I get this instant message from a guy I didn't know. And he's like, hey, man, he's like, I just saw your post on Sasquatch Chronicles. He's like, I'm from New Hampshire. He's like, I make a lot of documentaries, mostly on cryptids. He's like, I do a lot of local stuff. He's like, if you ever want,

Starting point is 00:58:33 he's like, if you could, you know, fill out this information, like an encounter so he could keep a record of it. I was like, oh, sure, man. Yeah, I could do that. But first, I wanted to look him up. I wanted to see who this guy was because I'm not, I don't want to be ridiculed. I don't want to, I don't want to be like, like it's a trick. You know what I mean? Like I'm getting bamboozled or anything, you know? I'm like, Alexander Petacoff. I'm like, who is this guy? Sounds weird to me. Right. So I'm looking at him. I see his profile with his camera and he's, you know, and he's, and I look at his stuff. He's like, yeah, I'm a local doc. You know, he's like, I'm a local doc. You know, he's like, I'm a local doc. You know, he's like, I'm a local doc. He's like, I'm a. He's like, I'm a. He's like, I'm a. He's like, I make a lot of documentaries. And I was like, oh, wow. So I looked at all this stuff. I'm like, oh, wow, he is legit.

Starting point is 00:59:18 Like, he really wants to know. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down. And for a second, there's doubt. But then I realize I've done enough.

Starting point is 00:59:41 to be where I'm at. The early mornings, the extra reps, the days I wanted to quit and didn't. So, I smile. Self-doubt is natural, but my smile is a reminder that I'm resilient. To put more smiles out into the world, Colgate has supported female athletes

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Starting point is 01:01:07 So your wellness stays effortless wherever the day takes you. Vital Proteins. Stay vital. Visit VitalProtene's.com to get started. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. And ever since that day, like we, we had that connection with the mountain hiking because he's done the New Hampshire 48 as well. And I was like, oh, wow, finally someone I could talk to about this. And of course, everyone now in the YouTube world who follows the Sasquatch, you know, rabbit hole knows who Alexander Pedicoff is now.

Starting point is 01:01:45 I would hope that everyone listening knows who Alex Pedicott is. And if you don't, you really need to. Bye, bye. I'm going to have a few links in the show notes just in case that one person doesn't know. Oh, yeah. We need to make that difference. So, yeah. And yeah, because there's something me and Evan found, you know, last year where we had to call Alex for help on this.

Starting point is 01:02:06 And it ended up being a small monster monsters. He ended up doing up Beyond the Trail episode of what we found. So we'll get into that a little bit later. Yeah. So I talked. I talked to him and he's like, yeah, he's like, oh, I have this, this Sasquatch out of the Shadows YouTube channel. That's, you know, before, that's before he hit like the, let's call him the celebrity and the Sasquatch, you know. Yeah, people might not realize. So that's true. People might not realize that he has an amazing YouTube channel with some of the best Bigfoot themed interviews that exist on YouTube.

Starting point is 01:02:48 he does and i'm counting everyone like yeah if it is a great he i mean from meldrum to breed like he's had everyone on there and Alex is very articulate he is very good with his words he's he's great interviews great just a great guy all around you know i i i always tell him like Alex i just talked about you again like you know like yeah i'm like nothing bad buddy you know like but you know i I am so lucky that he reached out to me because what a ride it's been since we've met. And I'm so lucky to have him as a friend now. And man, what a great guy. And yeah, anyone out there, I would, yeah, go on to his, he's not on the Sasquatch.

Starting point is 01:03:39 He doesn't do anything much with it anymore because of the STM. He doesn't do anything on the Sasquatch out of the Shadows channel. but there's still all that great content. Oh, it's so good. Like his first documentaries, you know, like it's just really good stuff, just down-to-earth stuff. It's just like watching it be on the trail at, pretty much. It really is, yeah.

Starting point is 01:04:01 Really is. So now we'll get since now I said who I was texting while all this is going on. Right. I have no service out there when those knocks happened. We are four miles into this hike where there, is nothing else out there. No service. But I am texting. I must have been, it was so long. I'm sending him everything that's going on. So you're texting him without service and then when you get back to service and say it was going to send. Okay. I get. Yeah. Right after everything happened,

Starting point is 01:04:36 I was there for probably 15 minutes. I am just writing this whole story of what's going on. finally I get to the base of the mountain. After all this has happened, it finally goes through. Wait a minute. What? I'm like, Alex, I'm like, I'm in the Penny Wilderness, man. I'm like, I just had some crazy shit happen, man. So I'm like, I will call you when I get home.

Starting point is 01:05:05 I called him the next day. I called him the next day. I told him what happened. He's like, dude. He's like, he's like, man, he's like, you know, if you want, Brian, he's like, why don't you come on to my show and tell your story of what's happened with you? And I was a little hesitant at first because, like I said, I've talked about it one time and I was to a damn camera. Like, I never talked with people, you know, to another person.

Starting point is 01:05:35 And I was like, you know what? I'm like, I'm getting all this positive feedback from my post. I'm like, oh, yeah. I'm like, oh, come on, man. So his podcast was the first podcast I really started to listen to like the live streaming. Right. And he had on, and you know,

Starting point is 01:05:54 one of the first ones I watched, he had Doug Highcheck on. I mean, he had Doug Highcheck on twice. So everyone, I really, oh, the information I got out of that, those two shows with High Check, oh my God. Yeah, they're good.

Starting point is 01:06:06 Yeah. What a wealth of information. Like, I was like, when I went on, I was like a, kid in the candy store. I had so many questions in the live streams. I had so many questions. And Doug was answering it all. And I was like, oh my God. I'm like, I wish I could have found this sooner. But I am so thankful that I finally found this. So we started talking about, I'm like, maybe these Sasquatch have like some kind of scent gland because you hear some encounters,

Starting point is 01:06:35 you smell nothing. And you have others where they, they, they, they, smell this stench. So I threw that question out there. I check was like, yeah, he's like, I believe these things do have like some kind of gland that they can let out this stench, almost like a defense, like a skunk duttle as a defense mechanism. I was like, yes. I'm like, maybe, maybe it could either, or in the south, maybe they smell a little more

Starting point is 01:07:03 because of the different temperatures, the humidity and up north, it's not as bad up here and you're in the higher elevation. So maybe that's something because that night in the tent, man, I, I smelled nothing. I smell nothing. All I could smell that night was, you know, how the, like I said, I was near running water, that wet smell. You know, that misty smell. Right. That's all I smelled that night, man.

Starting point is 01:07:28 So that got, that was very interesting for what Mr. Hijack said. But, you know, when I went on Alex's show and I started telling them, you know, what was going on and everything. I've had other stuff happen. A week later, I'm on. After all those knocks happened and I did that hike, I'm like, I'm going to get back out there. I have got to get back out there next weekend.

Starting point is 01:07:59 And I went back out into the same wilderness, that same Pemi wilderness. And I wanted to do, you could do the Pemi loop. like I said, it's a 31.5 mile total. Or you could do a semi, you could do a semi-Pemi loop. You could do half of it because there's a trail that runs all the way up. That 13 Falls Trail is what I took when I saw the moose. You could keep taking that straight up and you could just cut that pemy loop in half.

Starting point is 01:08:25 And you just do half of it. My goal was to go knock a couple more mountains that I didn't get. I'm like, I'm going to knock those two off. But I'm going to make it worth it and do a semi-pemi loop. So I'm right back out there next weekend, man. What was great about this weekend, it was Memorial Day weekend, okay? It was the end, you know, and what was good was that it was the long weekend, but what sucked is the weather. The weather I knew the next day on my day two hike was going to be 60% rain, 40 to 50 mile an hour winds by June.

Starting point is 01:09:04 So by noon. So I knew that next morning. I really had to hustle to get out of there. So I'm going back down and it's starting to rain. Extremely windy. The good thing was because the weather was so bad, there weren't a lot of people out. So like I said, I love when I have the trail to myself. No matter what's happened, I still love it.

Starting point is 01:09:29 We're going down this 13 Falls trail again. And it's right near where I had the moose encounter. you know two three years prior you know and i'm like oh this is great like i'm going down this corridor of that that that that that tube of a foliage and when i'm getting to the end of these heights it's kind of when i'll stop that's when i'll stop looking around you know what i mean i'll watch my dog i'll see how what he's looking at you know if he kind of perks up and looks i'll look where he's looking, you know, because I know my dog so well. Right, right.

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Starting point is 01:12:17 Yeah. So we're at the tail end and it's raining on and off. And I'm walking and we're kind of in like this muddy area, very muddy from the rain. And it was kind of like a little swampy area. And I'm looking off the embankment. and it was just this smooth as peanut butter, like a quick mud. It was a very big area. And it was just so smooth, but there was just weird, like big circular impression in the middle.

Starting point is 01:12:50 Oh, that's odd. I'm like, what the heck is that? Because there was nothing else within 20 feet of it. It was just this perfect, like I said, smooth as ice. But there's just this big, this big, circular impression in the middle. middle and I'm like, wow. I'm like, I'm going to try to get up and take a picture with my camera, with my phone. I'm going to go near the embankment.

Starting point is 01:13:11 I'm not going to that quick mud because if I go into that quick mud, man, it's like that. Oh, yeah, you're done. You can lift your boot up. You might lose your boot. Yeah. And I didn't want my dog, my dog follows me everywhere. I'm like, he carries a pack. I don't want him going into the mud and getting all.

Starting point is 01:13:27 I keep my video equipment, some of my stuff in his pack as well so I can just hurry up and grab it. Yeah. So he's off to the side of me. And I got this 40 pound pack. Now, this is day two. This is two weeks in a row of long hikes. I did the, the owls had the week beef prior.

Starting point is 01:13:45 That was 17.2. Now, this one is over 20 miles, but I went over six peaks. So I am physically exhausted. Oh, man. Like, I remember at the end of this hike, even though I'm kind of looking around for tracks and just looking at, like just being aware of my surroundings.

Starting point is 01:14:01 Like, I am just, I am so fatigued. Like, on this, I remember this was like the worst ending to one of my hikes because I am fighting. Fighting every step is just like, oh. And like I said, you're carrying this big pack. And it's just, I'm like, I still have another six miles, you know, at least I'm back onto the flat. So as I'm going out to get this, this photo of this, this just, it could have been anything. It could have been like an animal that fell from a tree branch and just right into the middle. You know, it was just a round.

Starting point is 01:14:36 And I wanted to just try to get a photo of it. Now, as I'm doing this, off to the diagonal, like off to the right, I'm hearing bipedal footsteps. Like, really? That's wild, dude. Oh, wow. Now, I'm out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, you're way out there. You're miles away.

Starting point is 01:15:00 from everyone. They am six miles away. Oh my goodness. Now, anyone that's listened to this right now, I highly suggest go on Google Earth, put in Owls Head, okay? You're going to see the Lincoln Brook Trail and the Franconia Brook Trail, and you're going to see the Pemmy Wilderness. You're going to see how far out I was on this Franconia Brook Trail.

Starting point is 01:15:23 I am six miles away from my truck, okay? the closest trail to me was three miles way off to me to do the owl's head at least three miles. So I'm like, the first thing I'm like, who the hell is walking off trail on a day like this in the middle of nowhere? As I'm hearing this and I make a movement down to look, it stops. the steps stop. I look over to my dog to see what he's doing. Now,

Starting point is 01:16:05 like I said, when Chui sees an animal, deer or lower, he's going to chase that frigging thing. He is just staring to the direction I heard the steps and he's not moving, man. He is on high alert

Starting point is 01:16:23 and he is not moving. So what I start doing, I have these these evergreens in front of me. And then there's like this, there's like a nice open area and then more trees scattered. I'm going like this. I'm rocking looking in between the trees like this. See, I don't know why I started doing that. I think it was, I wanted to stay quiet.

Starting point is 01:16:47 I didn't want to keep like pittering around. I wanted to see if I could see what was doing that. Oh, wow. I'm like, that's not a freaking person. Chewy is not a people person. If he sees a person, he's going to growl or he's going to be like he's not, he's not going to run up to a human. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 01:17:05 But he will growl at the person or someone's going to say, oh, hey, you know, could you put your dog on leash or if it was a human? You know what I mean? To just stop and not move anymore. So as all this is going on, I am frozen. Now, my dog is off leash, okay? I want to bring up this encounter. that Evan told me about because through me telling my story

Starting point is 01:17:35 Evan reached out because he heard what happened to me with the vocals and he had something similar to him with the vocals where he thought it felt like a cat was purring on his chest on his neck that's how he just

Starting point is 01:17:49 his vibration so we had me and Evan had that connection and when I came out my story we have become very close friends talking for, you know how it is when you talk with your Sasswatch buddies. You can talk. Oh, yeah, no, totally. And I'm sure a lot of listeners get that for sure, yeah.

Starting point is 01:18:07 I've talked to this guy for hours on all the encounters in New Hampshire that people don't want anyone else to know. Oh, my goodness, yeah. A lot because it's on private land. People don't want to mess with. But he told me this one. It's on Instagram. I highly recommend anyone that is interested in this story.

Starting point is 01:18:28 story, go to New Hampshire Sasquatch on Instagram. He puts out, he'll put where the encounter was, he'll have a picture of where the encounter was, you know, from Google Earth. And he'll have someone illustrate what happened, you know, like a drawing of what happened. So he's telling me about this one that happened on Mount Cabot. Now, Mount Cabot is the furthest for. thousand footer, the northern most 4,000 footer in New Hampshire, because then you have Vermont and then you have Maine.

Starting point is 01:19:06 So when you're up at that peak on Cabot, you're looking at Vermont. You're right on the border. Okay. Now, this Mount Cabot, at the base of this where you park, is the New Hampshire fishing game fish hatchery where they do all their fish spawning. Free food for wildlife, if you know what I do. Oh, yeah. No, that's perfect.

Starting point is 01:19:27 Now, this area is thick, so thick of vegetation. It looks like Vermont. Now, if anyone has not been to Vermont, it's maple trees galore, okay? Greenest, beautiful, beautiful area. I mean, when you want to see green, if you can't go to Ireland, go to Vermont. It's gorgeous, especially in the fall. Vermont is gorgeous for the fall foliage. It's like the forest is on fire with oranges, yellows, red.

Starting point is 01:19:57 heads. But this woman was doing a mountain hike, a sunset hike up to the cabin on Mount Cabin. There's a cabin you can stay in at the peak. I've never done it, obviously, because of what's happened to me, Alex has stayed in that thing, Petacoff. He stayed in that overnight. And he said, if you don't mind mice, he's like, it's a great cabin to stay in because of the skeleton. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. So he's telling me this woman goes with her dog, a shepherd. A German Shepherd Lake Chewy. Okay.

Starting point is 01:20:29 And off leash. And the dog was ahead of her. Now, she's going up to this cabin to catch the sunset. Now, when she notices her dog stop and look at the tree line, and it's growling. The dog is growling at the tree line. And this woman's like, you know, trying to recall her dog. Dog won't move. All of a sudden, this big creature comes out, grab.

Starting point is 01:20:57 the dog. Now this woman goes in shock, like fear. Your fear. Now, her dog is yelping. Okay? Yelping with the thing, the creature has the thing in its arms. I hate telling this story, but it's because of what happened to us with those footsteps, I got to tell it. The creature just snaps that dog's neck

Starting point is 01:21:22 and walks off with it. And she called the cops. She called the cops to tell them what happened. And of course, this is what the cops said. Oh, it was probably a bear. It's probably a bear. I was like, she told Evan what it was.

Starting point is 01:21:42 You know, she's like a Sasquatch came out, grabbed my dog and broke its neck. Now, she was hysterical. Okay. When I hear that, because I'm always hiking alone with my dog, I don't want anything. bad happen to my best buddy you know what i mean like he has been on every hike with me he is with me

Starting point is 01:22:01 every day you know he's more he's like my he's like my son for cried out loud you know what i mean yeah i don't mean anything bad happen to my dog so when those footsteps stopped when we're on that trail i got really scared i got i got really scared i got scared for my dog i was scared from me but i was I didn't want anything bad happen to my dog. So I go like this to the dog. I don't want to make a huge noise because I wanted to see if I could see what was making those footsteps. I'm like, he looks at me and then stares right back to where he heard that.

Starting point is 01:22:43 And I was like, oh my God, I'm like, something big is there. Because like I said, if it was an animal, I said, I hurt the bipedal. there's a big difference between two steps and a four-legged creature. You know, there's more, this was, it was clearless day. And because of the rain and it was muddy, you could really hear footsteps pretty good, especially when you're out in the middle of nowhere. It's so quiet out there. You have none of that ambient sound.

Starting point is 01:23:16 So you could hear it and clear as day. So I'm like, oh my God. So as soon as I saw him look back, I went right over to a man and I latched him up. I latched him up. I waited. I waited. Now, during this whole ordeal, like I said, this is the end of our hike. I didn't have my GoPro going.

Starting point is 01:23:34 My GoPro was dead. It was raining. Oh, yeah. In that state where I didn't care, I'm at the end of the hike, it's raining. I feel like crap. My feet are beat from these two long weekends of hiking. I had nothing left in the tank. nothing left and I was like oh my god but it was that feeling and this has happened to

Starting point is 01:23:57 Alex and one of his buddies on one of his hikes it's that feeling of being watched oh absolutely dude I've been there so much I know exactly what you're talking about dude I know I know there stands up oh yeah and it's almost like it's like I felt like prey oh yeah like I think of a bunny rabbit it, right? And maybe the big bad wolf is there. That instant, like that sixth, like that sixth sense. I think we all have that. We all have that, but we lose, because of technology, we kind of lose our senses.

Starting point is 01:24:38 Do you know what I mean? We rely too much on certain things. I think we lose touch with that. And a lot of these outdoorsmen, A lot of people that are out in the wilderness a lot, I think they kind of, their senses get heightened. So I think of all the hiking we've been doing for all these years,

Starting point is 01:24:59 I felt like someone was watching me during this whole thing. Like my arm hair was raised. I had the goosebumps, my neck hair, that tingling, you get that tingling sensation over your body to where, like, like I am being stalked to all.

Starting point is 01:25:17 Something is just watching me. It's not moving. It's not moving. And I told people how thick vegetation is. Now, a lot of people are going to say, why didn't this guy just go and walk in and see what it was? Right. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:31 You're going to understand something when you're out in the wilderness and you're alone and you don't have a weapon. My only weapon is a freaking six-inch knife that isn't going to do much to any big animal without me having to get really close. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah. Fear comes over you.

Starting point is 01:25:49 It's like a blanket. It just washes over you. I was scared from me. I'm scared for my dog. I don't want anything bad happening. But that freaking encounter that Evan tells me is in my head at that moment. Well, it must have messed you up. I was so scared, Jeremiah.

Starting point is 01:26:08 I'm like, I'm leashing up the dog and I'm getting out of here, man. It's bad. You know, with all the shit that's happened to me, especially that night in the tent, Like, I want to see it. I want to see it. But I don't want anything ruining my love of the wilderness. I don't want anything to ruin what I love to do. I love to go with my dog.

Starting point is 01:26:32 And I love to hike. I love to be alone out there and hike. I don't want anything bad happening. And that Mount Cabot encounter just sticks in my mind on every hike now. When something weird goes on, I'm like, I don't want nothing to happen in a chewy. I latched him up, man. It always happens right before the whistle.

Starting point is 01:26:55 There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down. And for a second, there's doubt. But then, I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at. The early mornings, the extra reps,

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Starting point is 01:28:55 I am not doing what I did the week before and say, oh, my God, this and this just happened. You know, I don't want to be that guy that just keeps puts out stuff but doesn't get anything. You know what I mean? I don't want to. Right. I don't need to do that. I did it already. I don't need to be like, oh, they're going to think this guy's bullshit.

Starting point is 01:29:13 You know? So probably for that 10 to 15 minutes, man, I just kept turning it looking behind me as I'm walking because I just had that feeling of being watched. You know what I mean? And I know exactly where it happened, you know? And I haven't been back there since this happens. I've been wanting to go back out there this year. You know, and Evan wants to go out there with me. So a little spoiler alert.

Starting point is 01:29:43 I know Alex, we're going to be planning a trip up to Northern New Hampshire, to go Las County, home of the Wood Devil. Oh, yeah, man. And we're going to do what he'll do a beyond the trail. episode on Coas County and then up there. And that's probably the last time I'll tell my encounter, you know, because I've done it. On that episode. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:30:05 That'll be my last. Uh-huh. Because this, I told my wife today, I'm like, you know, this is probably the last live stream. I'm going to do telling my story. You know, I've told it enough. Like, it's out there. But I, there comes a time when, you know, I've said it enough, you know. Like, it's, it's ran.

Starting point is 01:30:24 It's. course for me. Like I've, I finally come, because for years, man, after that tent and count, I'm like, man, I wish I could have just opened up that tent and peaked my head out. But you've got to think, like, a lot of people probably say, why did this guy just open the tent after all that happens? Like, you don't, when you hear something, you don't know what it is. And it's the middle of the night, and you're with your family. I didn't want that. that thing coming back, man. Like, I didn't know what it was.

Starting point is 01:30:58 I didn't want to come back. But I finally come to terms with, I was so frozen in fear that night. I don't know. Like, like we were just talking about before with you had Martin Groves on recently. Right. Yeah. Yep.

Starting point is 01:31:16 And, man, I was listening to it today, actually, before this episode. And he's talking about the vocals. And word for word. it was like I was telling it. You know, like the same exact thing happened to him and his buddy. And I was like, oh my God, like the guttural growl, right? He heard that. Now, I don't know how loud it was for him.

Starting point is 01:31:40 I would love to talk to him sometime about that, you know, because we share that connection. And I love talking to other people that have had a similar experience to me because, man, I have talked about six or seven people that have like, yeah, like I have felt that vocal. Some people have heard it from like, oh, it was it was far away, but it was a stream. For me, it was the depth of it. It wasn't loud. It wasn't loud. It was just a just a breath like a and then into a grunt and then I just want to and it.

Starting point is 01:32:15 But man, it vibrated me. It vibrated my ears. Like, oh my God. Like to be able to share that with someone else who has had that is just. like I still get a rush when I heard it I couldn't believe it I'm like oh my god I'm about to talk to Jeremiah about this you just you just heard it

Starting point is 01:32:35 the last week that is very weird yeah now I now I hear it I'm like oh there's another one there's another one that we share the same encounter so now after all that after going on Alex's show

Starting point is 01:32:53 after having the foot steps after the relief of getting out of that area because I didn't feel safe, man, until I got back to that Franconia Lincolnbrook. It took me back onto that logging road, that Lincoln Woods that took me to the end. And I was just a sense of relief, but it was like, oh my God, I'm like, this is such a hot zone. Now, where we are in these ravines, it's just, it's, it's Brooks that flow from miles. to me, that's like a, that's, that's a wildlife highway. Oh, absolutely.

Starting point is 01:33:29 Follow the water. On all these hikes, I'm going into this Pemmy, you're following the Brooks, man. You're following these intersecting Brooks all the way from miles and miles. So to, to me, power lines, like Brooks streams, to me, that's like a, that's a, that's a, that's a Sasquatch highway. You know what I mean? So after all this this stuff has happened And you know I've told a couple of people

Starting point is 01:34:00 And I've made some new friends about it What me and Evan wanted to do Because his encounter I'll go into it real briefly It's a quick encounter but it's why we You know A friends his happened in 2018 in November it was Thanksgiving night

Starting point is 01:34:22 2018 he is driving on this road in central New Hampshire and about I think it was a month prior he had lost his best friend in a car accident as someone he grew up with so he was very depressed very emotional and he said what he would do at night he would just go for these rides on the back roads of New Hampshire. And this was a snowy night.

Starting point is 01:34:53 He's got his high beams on. A lot of these roads in New Hampshire are very windy dirt roads. So as he's coming around this bend, his lights, he thought it was reflectors on a tree. Because he's coming up on it. And he sees the big amber light of reflectors. And as he's getting closer, all of a sudden, he sees an arm go up over its eyes. He sees the hair on the arm. And he sees the snow beads on the hair.

Starting point is 01:35:33 Wow. What I mean? And he pulls up, and his high beams are shining right on this thing. He stops his vehicle. And the thing is right in front of him, 15 yards. He saw everything. I mean, he knew it was a male. That's how much he saw.

Starting point is 01:35:48 He saw everything. And this thing, when we went back to his encounter spot just this last year, it was about eight feet tall. Okay. What's cool about he knew exactly where his encounter was is when the snow plows go by on these roads, they get so close to the trees. They leave divvets from the plow hit in the tree. he knew exactly where the spot was because there's a big divot. So he said the creature looked at him when he stopped. The high beams are on this sucker.

Starting point is 01:36:25 He's in a little Ultima. He's in this small little, he said the thing could have flipped his car. Right. He's trying to come over and it could have flipped my car over. He's like, it looked at him like with this look of disgust and let out this puff. He probably thought it was probably like, I hear that.

Starting point is 01:36:42 I hear that so many times you don't even know, Brian. I hear that same exact thing. Sorry to interrupt you, but it's like, I've heard it a solid four to five times in interviews where it's like, and it's like we heard this like this huff. Like there was a disappointment or like this regard. It's a weirdest thing that people bring up, dude. He said it was like a parent looking at their child. Yeah. Wrong.

Starting point is 01:37:07 That fascinated me. Now, he said he saw the puff because it was so cold. out, he saw the breath, the puff of air come out. And he said it just turned and walked away. And he was so effed up from that. He was like, oh my God. I'm like, I just saw her, I just saw a Sasquatch. He drove away, man. He drove away. But that, like, knowing that just the way he tells his encounter and how much it, like, it affects him to like, he doesn't want to stay out at night like camping he can't he has to stay in like a van if he's going to stay out like it affects it affects a lot of people it affecting nate where i you know i still can't camp alone you know what i

Starting point is 01:37:51 mean until this a couple of weeks ago i was going to try it until chui you know i was out with alex we're going out and to do an investigation out when now it's hot spot where we started to go back to his the first beyond the trail episode was called granite state bigfoot exactly that is Alex's when the pandemic was going on he was going every day to this spot because there was nothing else to do he would go out there shoot guns do whatever go out there research before he even knew about the guy that was having all the encounters out there and Alex has had some weird stuff happen out there as well with some knocks so he's like hey man he's like you want to go you know let's go back out to my to that spot and uh we'll go do a couple of investigations. It was actually a night that we were all on the phone that night. Jeez, yeah, don't. That night, I don't.

Starting point is 01:38:48 Listeners are going to have to just imagine, I'm going to even bring up Tate. That's, that's, sorry, guys. You have to use your imagination of what. Yes, for all those. Anyways. From anyone that knows Tate, Erronomis. Yeah, got to love Tate.

Starting point is 01:39:05 You got to love Tate. You cannot. you cannot not like him. You know, he's just a great guy. He is a funny guy. Hot tubs and PBRs. So we're on, so we're on,

Starting point is 01:39:19 that night, Brian, wait, I got to tell, Brian, I'm sorry, I got to tell you something. So this is how much,

Starting point is 01:39:24 like, this lady comes up to me at Monster Fest. And she's like, oh, I have to tell you, like, your show is, I love it,

Starting point is 01:39:35 keep doing it. This is amazing. I'm like, oh, this is a, great. Thank you so much. I'm getting this feedback. And then at the very end, this lady says, but what's the deal with Tate and all the PBRs? I'm like, that's the funniest thing because like she's super like she gets like the in joke. It somehow went through the waves and she latched onto it.

Starting point is 01:39:57 And I'm like, he just really likes PBRs a lot. That's all I could say. But if we're on a class, let's say we're in a class, Tate's the class clown. Yeah, no, in a good way. Totally is. In a great way. In a great way. Nothing but love for Tate. He knows.

Starting point is 01:40:12 He's just a great guy. That's where we've gone out a few times. And just two weeks ago, he's like, hey, let me go back to our first overnight out there. We're walking the power lines. Okay. We're walking the power lines. It just rained a couple days prior. So we're looking for tracks.

Starting point is 01:40:32 And we're going through the least path of resistance. Let's walk those power lines. because those power lines go through the state of New Hampshire. It is a highway for wildlife. So we're seeing all these different kind of tracks. You know, we're picking up moose tracks here, you know, anything deer tracks, everything, everything. So we come across this trackway. Three nice tracks, big, pretty big size, man.

Starting point is 01:41:01 Alex did a 3D scan of it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. really intriguing stuff we found that night. We can't say for sure. But the 3D scan he did on the phone, that app you have with your phone, to see the impression down. And it's just, it's shaped like a, it's a, someone had a big foot. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:41:23 So we caught three of them. So like, oh, man, I'm like, we got to go back out here again and walk in, stay out of the power lines overnight with the terms, you know? so. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. So we just planned. It was two Thursdays ago, two weeks ago. We're like, hey, man, let's go out there, get them power lines before I leave for Alaska. I'm like, let's do it. Right. So we go out. Of course, I got Chewy because Chooey is our, he is our sixth sense out there. Like, Chewy loves Alex. And we always take him on our investigations. A dog is a great, tool to have, just because of how well their senses are. So five minutes into our investigation, we're trying to get, we're walking through the thick stuff to the power lines. And we see a couple porcupines scurry up the tree.

Starting point is 01:42:18 We're filming the porcupines. Of course, Chui was the one that chased him up the tree. I have him off leash. He chased him up the tree. So I'm like, dude, I'm like, let's film this. And then I'll latch up Chui because there's a lot of porcupines out. it's this for some reason this year there are a ton of porcupines up in the northeast oh weird yeah a lot of them this year a lot of roadkill just because there's so many so i call chewy i'm like hey chewy

Starting point is 01:42:44 all of a sudden i hear her like i hear him yelp and i'm like oh no oh man i'm like chewy here comes chewy quills in his nose quills in his snout quills in his mouth i'm like scary oh i'm like chui just got quilled so we drove a hundred miles to go for five minutes into the into the power lines and chui gets quilled i'd take him to the er but he's you know it was a long night but he's fine now but we didn't get to walk those power lines yet so he's like he's like as soon as i get back man from from alaska so it still has to happen okay wow yeah and that night was the first night I was going to stay out in a tent by myself. Wow.

Starting point is 01:43:31 So that was the night I was going to come over my fear of going on. Because he was going to stay out and do a night investigation. Him and his brother Luca were going to stay out. If I'd go home because Alex only lives a half hour away from his hot spot. And I'm like, okay, man. I'm like, I'm going to stay out here. I'm like, I'm ready. I'm going to try it.

Starting point is 01:43:51 I got to see if I can do it. He's like, oh, what a great idea. He's like, yeah, man. He's like, anytime you want to go to my spot and stay, go ahead. yeah I got ruined that night by the porcupine so after 20 years I was ready to face my fears wow yeah and it just mother you know the porcupine didn't want me staying out that night so he he gave chewy some some quills that's it's so scary when it happens to your to your dog because it's like people need to I don't know if everyone realizes how scary that is for a dog

Starting point is 01:44:23 because it's like the quills keep going in and they have to at the Vets have to pull them out and it's really traumatic. It's got to be traumatic for the dog. And it's expensive. It's very expensive, totally. It was an expensive night. So, yeah, but, you know, going back to Evans' encounter and what happened and after him seeing it, that's a class, that doesn't get any better than that, you know, with the detail he had. And being able to go back there and I said, well, hey, Evan, I'm like, you know what?

Starting point is 01:44:57 I'm like, let's go to your encounter spot. Okay? And then let's go find mine because it's been... It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen.

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Starting point is 01:47:01 These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Oh, wow. 19 years, I haven't been back to that spot, man, in northern New Hampshire. Like, I've hiked around that area, of course, but I have never been back to that campsite. For one, I forgot the name. It took me so long to find that campsite. And I used the Google Earth to verify in pictures online of the campsites, I was like, oh, my God. Just this past year, I'm like, oh, my God, guys, I found it.

Starting point is 01:47:31 Like, I found it. Like, we have to go back. So the plan for me and Evan was, oh, we'll go to your spot. I'm going to film you telling your story. And then we can go up to my spot. And you can film me telling my encounter. Okay. So we're like, hey, man, we'll go to your spot first, Evan, since it's only an hour away from where we are.

Starting point is 01:47:53 Because mine was way up in northern New Hampshire. And his was in central New Hampshire. It's a long ride. It was like a two, three hour ride for us to go to my spot across the state. up. So we go to his spot. Okay. I get out of his van. I got the GoPro going. And I'm like, oh, I'm like, so this is, this is where it happened because you can see the divot in the trees. Like, yeah, man, it happened right over there. As we're walking up to this, we see this weird impression. You know, Chui came within, I say two inches a step in right in the middle of it.

Starting point is 01:48:24 And I was like, oh, yeah, man. He's like, I see that too. He starts looking down. He's like, dude, he's like that's a track and I'm like oh man I'm like no way this is five feet from the tree where he saw the thing

Starting point is 01:48:38 four years ago I was like not saying it's the track from four years ago but just saying it's in the same area where you're at and I'm like

Starting point is 01:48:49 oh wow I'm like that's interesting now I'm always skeptical at first I'm like it was just a nice foot impression like you could see the impression

Starting point is 01:48:57 I was like oh that's interesting we start looking behind it we see three more impressions in the in the leaves but pressed way down oh man we're talking 16 17 inches three of them and we're trying to step down but we cannot get that depth now evan's a big guy evans 6 4 almost 300 he can wow yeah it's a big guy his foot dwarfed that foot impression so like oh that's interesting so evan's like hey you He's like, let's go across the road and see if we find any more. You know, we wanted to go in the direction where the foot, where it was coming from. So we had the, you know, like two crappy ones that we couldn't do anything with because of the leaves.

Starting point is 01:49:42 Like it scrunched the leaves down and there was just that, that foot impression. But the one on the road, we're talking a hard dirt road. It's not like no human can make that impression. You've got to be a heavy, heavy guy. So like, all right. let's walk across. I start to walk across. Now, Grant, I still have my GoPro going when we find this.

Starting point is 01:50:05 Now, there are F bombs. Well, I sent that one to you. I sent that to you as well, the link to you as well. It's great, what's great about this, you're getting our reaction while it's happening. Which is incredible. It was the odd, like, I'm just so used to when I get out when I start hiking, I'm going to, I just start filming. I see right across the road. I see this impression going up the embankment, this dirt embankment that goes into the woods.

Starting point is 01:50:34 I beeline right to it. And I'm like, dude, he's like, dude. I'm like, dude. We had that dude, dude, dude, moment. Yeah. Not to pull, there's a couple of leaves on it. Okay. He pulls leaves off the top of it.

Starting point is 01:50:49 He's like, I see toes. I'm like, I lost it. Like, we felt like we could see the toes. That's wild. It was wild, dude. It was so wild. I'm like, now I'm not, because I am in this state of jubilation, I'm not paying attention to Chewy. He is whining. You'll see it. You can see it in the video. He is yelping and whining. Like, he doesn't do that. It's not a normal thing. He sensed something, whether he could smell whatever. I don't, but his reaction was just crying and whining for so long. And I didn't pick him on and pick up. until after when I watched the footage. I was like, oh, wow, Chewey's acting weird. But we're like, we got to call Alex.

Starting point is 01:51:36 We had, haven't had like this three pound bag of like quick mix plastic. Okay, yep, yep. And I'm like, dude, I'm like, that's not enough, man, if we want to get all these. So our first thing is we got to call Alex. We got to call Alex. He'll know what to do. He'll know what to do. So we call and call and call and call no answer.

Starting point is 01:51:56 We're like, he could be anywhere. He could be anywhere filming. He calls back like probably 20 minutes later. And we tell him what's going on. And what's great is we have it all on film. And we're like, dude, we found a track. Like, we found a passable track way. He's like, no way.

Starting point is 01:52:13 He's like, hey, listen, it's going to take me two hours to get there. When you go from where he is to the location, he's like, I want to stop by Home Depot. I'm going to get a big 50-pound bag of plaster. He's like, oh, wow. Two and a half hours. Dude, in that two and a half hours, okay, it was like a movie. Okay. Now, when we found these tracks, no one, no one drove by.

Starting point is 01:52:39 Not a person walked by, nothing. We are right. We are probably probably about two miles, three miles from the state park, Port Tuckerway State Park. Yeah. Port Tuckerway State Park is now we know it's a hot zone for activity. So I'm like, you know what, Evan, I'm going to go down because where we found the first set of tracks, at the bottom of the hill, there's a huge pond, like a huge, huge pond. I'm like, I'm going to see if I find any more tracks. I go down there.

Starting point is 01:53:14 I find piles of turkey feathers. Really? Turkey feathers ripped. I mean, ripped in half piles here and there. turkey, I'm like, Evan, I'm like, this turkey fell is everywhere,

Starting point is 01:53:29 man. He's like, no, I'm like, dude, I'm like there yeah, everywhere.

Starting point is 01:53:32 I'm like, I'm still rolling. I'm still rolling with the GoPro, getting it all. And I'm like, oh yeah, man.

Starting point is 01:53:38 I'm like, something killed something down here. So I'm looking around down there for tracks. I didn't, I couldn't find any more tracks because it was so much leaf down there. It was very hard to find tracks.

Starting point is 01:53:51 But while I'm down there, Evan yells truck I look at here comes this truck man backing up with a boat attached going right towards the track and like what do you do

Starting point is 01:54:11 you're like no man you can't dude I run up Evan is standing there like a dick he isn't moving he's like I'm out of moving So these guys are pulling up on their boat they had to stop. They had to stop because they weren't going any further.

Starting point is 01:54:27 Evan just stand, man, man. I run up, man. I stand right on the side of Evan. I got chewy. Like, I got them so tight to me so we won't step on the track. Yeah. And these guys are like, they're probably looking at us like, what are these guys

Starting point is 01:54:42 do? Yeah. They're not moving. Like, these guys are taking the boat off the trailer. It's like a little, like, just a little boat they can take it to the pond and do their fishing. we didn't move. It was to the point where the boat almost hit me

Starting point is 01:54:55 when they took it off the trailer. Dude, I'm not moving for you, buddy. Like, there almost comes a time. Like, are we going to have to tell these guys? Did you say, hey, I got a big, like, you just didn't even broach it. It seemed so close to say, hey, buddy. We got a potential Sasquatch footprint here.

Starting point is 01:55:17 Would you mind going around, you know? but we didn't move. We did not move until the guy, we said the guy, he's like, hey, when you get into the water, we have our buddy on a kayak.

Starting point is 01:55:29 Could you let him know that we're here waiting for him? We wanted, it was like the only thing we could think of. Like, Evan thought of that. Like, just when you see our buddy in the pond, did you tell him that we're up here waiting for him?

Starting point is 01:55:40 Like, we've been here a while. Like, we were just playing dumb. You know, right? We want to tell them. I didn't want to get that look or like,

Starting point is 01:55:48 you know, they didn't want anyone else to know. what the hell we're doing. So they got out, la-di-da-da-da, it's been about an hour and a half. We're still waiting for Alex, man. And we're like, the nerves of God, like, I, the adrenaline and the nerves all of a sudden, okay,

Starting point is 01:56:06 here comes this guy walking his dog. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything. I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down.

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Starting point is 01:58:33 His dog came within probably two, three inches of stepping right into the track. It was like a movie. I couldn't believe what was going on all at once. You couldn't write a better script. You know what I mean? And that guy has no idea what's going on. He has no idea. And after that, we put a backpack near it.

Starting point is 01:58:53 You know what I mean? People away from it. But finally, Alex rolls up. up. And of course, Alex, he was, of course, skeptical before he even saw anything. You know what I mean? These guys, you know, what are the odds of these guys finding this way? Evan had his encounter. And then he looks at him. And he's like, this is pretty crazy, man. He's like this is pretty. And it takes a lot to get something like that out of Alex. No, no, it does. It really does. Yeah. One big thing about Alex, he doesn't have Bigfoot on the brain when he goes out there, you know. He's always skeptical of everything first. Yep. But when he's not saying, hey, man, when he starts swearing, he's like, this is pretty interesting, man. He's like, this is pretty interesting. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:59:38 But the one on the embankment, he's like, guys, he's like, I don't think I could do this. Like, I've never, I've never cast it up on an, on an angle like that. Oh, wow. Yeah. He's like, you mind if I call Cliff Barakman? That's awesome. Yeah, give me some pointers. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:59:54 Yeah, that's so cool. I'm like, yeah, go ahead. You can call Cliff. Yeah. Why not? So here I. with the GoPro right next to his phone. He calls us Cliff.

Starting point is 02:00:03 Cliff answers. He answers after a few rings. He's like, oh, hey, Cliff, sorry to bother you, man, but I got a potential trackway here in New Hampshire. We're trying to, you know, cast on an embank, man, and just hearing Cliff's voice, you know, because I was that guy from finding Bigfoot. I always loved Cliff and Bobo. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 02:00:23 So to get the pointers from him and what to do, it was just, oh, what a great experience. experience, man. It was just so cool to be able to cast the tracks. And that track way was the last one we cast out of all of them. Wow. And while Alex is casting it, he's running out of mix. He's running out of mix. He's got about, he still has to get the toes.

Starting point is 02:00:53 I'm there. Oh, man. I am so mad. I am glad he showed up. But I am so mad that he didn't mix enough. He starts scraping it out with his hands to get every little bit he could, man. But he ended up getting the track. We got the, we got the toes.

Starting point is 02:01:11 Alex has the cast. He's got a nice setup in his house and a nice glass case. It's just a nice momentum to everything that happened. And he's like, hey, guys, he's like, would you guys want to come back up here, like, in a week or two and do an investigation. I'm like, hell yeah, man. Like, definitely. And that led into doing a Beyond the Trail episode on the track way.

Starting point is 02:01:39 And it was just so fun having Eli come down. And Carrick, St. Laurick came down. Oh, Carrick, so nice. He's a really cool guy. Yeah. And we had, you know, it rains, you know, during, it rained both days. We did our investigation. but we had the night time to where it didn't rain.

Starting point is 02:01:59 It got to go out. We had some stuff go on. But we're thinking it, like, we heard a bloop-bloup splash, like very loud, bloop-splash. And it was just, you know, we come to the fact that it was probably beaver tail. It was probably beavers doing that. Right. But what happened on that second night, it was probably 2.30 in the morning. Evan and Eli were by themselves on the power lines.

Starting point is 02:02:27 And we were over by the, there's a side trail. You can go down and you can parallel each other. One on the, you know, we got one group there and another group here and see if we could either flush anything out or whatever. And on the walkie-talkie, they're like, are you guys, Evan and Eli are like, are you guys over near the entrance? because we're seeing a light and we're like no man we're way down

Starting point is 02:02:56 we're way down man where none of us have lights on he's like they saw like a possible orb like they had something funky to where Eli they were trying to recreate it with the flashlights we all met up after that we're trying to recreate

Starting point is 02:03:12 with it and like no like that's not it man so something weird happened that those guys evident and Eli saw that they can't explain it. But they're like, yeah, it was like this white light floating across and went behind the, there was this sign. It was the sign to the entry of the trail. And they're like, and then it was gone.

Starting point is 02:03:35 I was like, oh, wow, that's, that's interesting because I wasn't a big orb guy. You know what I mean? But you hear a lot of stories with people seeing orbs in the woods sometimes. So they saw something odd. They talked about it a little on the documentary, but there was nothing we could recreate. But it was just, it's just a very interesting area.

Starting point is 02:03:53 And, you know, like I said, that where we found that trackway, a half mile down the road was the power lines. Those four lines that run from miles. And that thing that that direction, the prints at that, where it was going, you go through the woods and then a little bit after those woods,

Starting point is 02:04:11 you come up onto the power lines. So like, oh, wow. Like, what a great area. But man, It was such a great experience, you know what I mean, to be able to go out with those guys and see how they do their thing. That kind of thing is really cool. I learned so much from Alex. Every time we go out, like, he's like, oh, these are where porcupines burrow.

Starting point is 02:04:34 And sure enough, we go up to this spot and there's a bunch of porcupine scat. And I'm like, oh, my God, like, every time I'm with that guy, like, I always learn something. So it's, it's, he is such a very down-to-earth. just a nice, I have never met a nicer person than how it's Petikoff. I can't, like, what you see on film is how he is all the time. Yeah, 100%. It's the same thing. Like, people need to realize that it's, it's not a, it's not a fake thing like that is.

Starting point is 02:05:06 That's him. Yeah. With, you get what you get with him. He is the same all the time. Such a nice, nice guy. Yeah, what a nice guy. But yeah, man, that was, that was, that was. was, you know, that's, that's what's happening to me out there, though, with the knocks and

Starting point is 02:05:22 those, those footsteps. That's, that's wild. I have, there's one question I have about the initial tent situation. And I know this is, this is like 20 years ago or more, right? It's a long time ago. But the one thing that I kept coming to mind when you were telling me that is, So you're inside the tent and you can see something running, you know, across the nylon, right? Yes.

Starting point is 02:05:56 At first I heard, I'm like, what is that? Now, you got to say, this is seconds. Now, like I said, we were in a big tent. So it had to go across far because like I'm saying, three of us fit on one half of the tent. And the other half was like all our clothes, all our stuff. You know what I mean? So I had enough time to hear it. And then I picked up the impression.

Starting point is 02:06:17 Now, you see me going like this. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down. And for a second, there's doubt.

Starting point is 02:06:40 But then, I realize I've done enough to be where I'm at. The early mornings, the extra reps, the days I wanted to. quit and didn't. So I smile. Self-doubt is natural, but my smile is a reminder that I'm resilient. To put more smiles out into the world, Colgate has supported female athletes for over 50 years with the Colgate Women's Games. The Colgate Women's Games is the nation's longest running indoor track and field series for girls and women. Colgate, your smile is your strength. If data management is slowing down your business, you need the Intuit ER. If one entity is here and one here and one here and one here, you need the Intuit ERP.

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Starting point is 02:08:14 These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. All the time, I'm telling it. Right. That's what I saw. So that's the question I had is, did you see actual fingers? Yes, I saw my big ass fingers. How big?

Starting point is 02:08:35 I mean, this is what got me. Because like I said, at first I thought it was a person because I saw the finger impressions. It's when everything changed at the end of the tent. It didn't growl. It didn't take the breath and growl and grower until after. the impression went across. It was about eight feet away when I felt that grunt. Eight to ten feet away from going from my right to left.

Starting point is 02:09:06 And then it was my girlfriend and my son on the outside of the tent. The direction it was going. That's what scared me. I didn't want it coming back to my son's side of the ten. Yeah. I laid there still. I don't know how long it was till I have. actually friggin moved, but my first movement was looking to my left and seeing if it woke

Starting point is 02:09:29 up my girlfriend. And she sat down asleep and I was like, oh shit. And I waited, dude. I laid there and waited hands like this, dude, pillow over my head. And I waited to hear if I would hear anything else because I didn't know, like take Sasquatch out of the realm. I didn't know what it was. So I've come, like I was saying before, I have finally, after years of fighting myself saying Brian, like, dude, why couldn't you open that tent? I was so afraid. I couldn't freaking move, man. I physically couldn't move after that grunt because it's something I have never heard. Besides, if you go to the circus and you're close to a lion and you can hear, you can, you know, they give off like that vibration.

Starting point is 02:10:22 Right. Exactly. No lions in the north. There's no lions up there going on. It was the digits. That's why when I said bear at first, I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'm like a bull were ripped through my tent. A bear's not going to go up on its hind legs. Miss the, you have a cover on your tent and the strings come out into the ground.

Starting point is 02:10:44 Miss those. Have the intelligence to miss those. Okay. Right. Right. Wow. That's, that's why. So you could see the actual fingers.

Starting point is 02:10:56 You could probably, could you tell like how big the hand-ish was or? Yes. Yes, because it was so fat. They were so fat. Like the impression. It wasn't like it was grazing gently, man. Right. Okay.

Starting point is 02:11:08 It was like pressing in. Wow. pressed and across. I'm not going to say violently, but aggressively, very aggressive to where it scared me. I'm up on my elbows watching that sucker go across. about to get up and I'm thinking of the noises. I was going to have to make to get out of my sleeping bag with the zippers. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:11:35 Then to unzip that big dome, freaking, and pop my head out into the pitch black, man. No way. No way. Dude, yeah, I would have been saying, I mean, I would have made the same call. Like, there's no way. Like, there's no way I would have been able to do that. Here's another thing. And I talk about this. I've heard a guy that it took him 55 years to tell his an honor. This guy is 72. Okay. It took him 55 years. And what I share with him is that it felt like it just happened yesterday. When you said, oh, it's been 20 years. I don't know if you'll, I can remember it like it just happened. Wow.

Starting point is 02:12:18 Like it never leaves you. So in a way, I feel like I'm cursed, but I also feel lucky because that doesn't happen to a lot of people. But that those years of not knowing, but to be able to tell my story, like it just happened yesterday, man. Right. It is so fresh in my brain, it's never going to leave me. Never. Like I will never forget that night. I will never forget it.

Starting point is 02:12:51 It's something that, you know, I've shared it enough. But man, yeah, my memory is as clear as day when it comes to that night, man. Wow. And it's it's, it's definitely, it's definitely an experience. Brian, that's that's in that whole, that whole, I mean, it's a whole adventure, your whole story. and thank you for sharing with. It's a 20-year journey. It's amazing.

Starting point is 02:13:21 Yeah. Thank you for sharing all that. I would highly recommend people, listeners, to subscribe to Brian's channel so that you can follow along with everything he's posting. There's some really cool stuff on there. There's going to be plenty of links in the show notes. But do you mind spending a few minutes, Brian, to share. just any way that people can keep up to date with what you're doing?

Starting point is 02:13:52 I post all my hikes, all my investigations. I've just posted, I think the last two months, all I've been doing is going on investigations with Alex and stuff, but I posted them. We've gone to the Freetown State Forest. That's a whole other episode, man. I live 15 minutes from there. I am 15 minutes from the Freetown State Forest.

Starting point is 02:14:15 Wow. I took, I, I've gone in there with Alex three times. We've taken a guy that wanted to, you know, because there's a lot of, right. It's a melting pot of everything in the free town state forest. It's weird stuff. From murders, cults, ghosts, anything you are into, Sasquatch encounters, it is, that's part of the Bridgewater Triangle. Absolutely. So that is a whole other episode, man.

Starting point is 02:14:42 No, it really is. I mean, that is just, that's some wild, wild stuff. dude. Wow. But what's great about that is we go to all these famous locations and I have it all on my channel, but my channel is Bryant and Chewee go hiking. That's all it is. And I'm a small channel. I don't promote my channel. You know, I started my channel when my dad, we know, for my dad. My dad lived in Arizona. He was a hiker. I lived over here. I'm a hiker. I would share my videos so he could see that. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah. That's awesome. My whole, you know, that was my whole start to this YouTube thing so I could share my stories with my dad.

Starting point is 02:15:19 Little did I know, you know, other people like watching, you know, hikes and getting information on mountains and hikes. And that's, that's mostly what I do. But I lately, I have been putting the investigations in there. It's pretty cool. I enjoy doing it. And I enjoy sharing where these locations are just so people can see what we're talking about. Because that's the most important thing to me. me, I want these people to go on Google Earth.

Starting point is 02:15:46 After this episode, look up where I've been talking about. And you're going to be like, oh, wow, that's a forest. And there's no cars going in there. There's no roads. So that's where these suck, to me, my opinion, in these deep areas in the whites, these are where these things are hiding is where people don't go. Because like we were saying, you go off trail a little bit and you lose your way. Nine times out of ten, you're not going to find your way out.

Starting point is 02:16:15 Oh, no. You're not, you're not, dude. So, yeah, that's, in my opinion, that's where these suckers are, is where people aren't going to go much. And that's where I want to try and go, but I'm not going alone. So hopefully, next beyond the trail at the end of the summer, you guys will see us going up to northern New Hampshire and going to be in a good day. I can't wait for that one because we used to go up to,

Starting point is 02:16:42 Colbrook and Pittsburgh and all that good stuff. Northern New Hampshire is beautiful, but I can't wait to see what you guys find up there. The Dixville Notch area. Oh, yeah. You'll see a moose. We saw seven moose on one of our, me and Evan went on an excursion to do an investigation way.

Starting point is 02:17:00 No doubt. I got a quick story if we got time. We got a little bit of time. So I got, how about this? Let's finish the episode and then I can tell you. I've got Moose stories.

Starting point is 02:17:15 Great. And you've got Moose stories. And we'll do like a Patreon Moose. Let's do that. Because I have a great story. If you have the time. So I have,

Starting point is 02:17:24 I have a time. Let's close it out real cool. Okay. So Brian, thank you for, for chilling out. Can I think? I'm sorry to interrupt you.

Starting point is 02:17:34 Go, go, go. I just want to thank you, okay? Mm. Because people like me, that have had a hard time talking about it to just the average Joe. What you do with this platform, it's so much appreciated people that have had encounters

Starting point is 02:17:57 and are afraid to talk about it or just are afraid to step forward. This platform is a great platform to let people like us tell what's happened and not get that look. not get that look like, oh, look at, like, a nut. Like, oh, this guy's a nut. You know what I mean? Like, you've heard enough of it. The listeners have heard enough that they know that, you know,

Starting point is 02:18:23 I'm not a bullshitter, you know. I'm just telling me what's happened to me on my hikes. And the areas I have gone to that are, that are. It always happens right before the whistle. There's a little voice that says, what if I mess up? What if I'm not ready? I see a whole highlight reel of everything I don't want to happen. Missed shots, turnovers, letting my team down.

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Starting point is 02:20:46 that is the main focus of my channel now is to give people a platform to share their encounters where they haven't been able to share because they've been maybe afraid or not empowered. And so then other people hear that and then they are able to connect dots in their heads or in their head or have the courage then to come forward. But can you speak to the listener for a moment? Imagine you're speaking to a person that has had something happen. They haven't come forward yet. And why is it a good idea to, you know, contact someone like me and just what does that do to you as a person?

Starting point is 02:21:26 You know why? For me and I'm sure for some other people, some people hold on to this for a long time. And it, and like I said, it is a heavy weight to carry on your shoulders. If you don't know what's going on and you're looking for. answers and you come to a platform like this and you're hearing similar stuff, the best thing for me was telling my story because that weight came off of me. And to get that positive feedback. And I'm calling it like a family. You get to like you can trust people that you're telling your story to on this platform. It's just, I, I.

Starting point is 02:22:12 I highly recommend anyone that has had an encounter and is having a hard time telling anyone, this is one of the safe places to tell it. And you will feel much better getting that off your shoulders because for me, I had it for 18 years. Wow. Carried that to myself. And I am so glad I did because I don't know where I'd be if I didn't. You know what I mean? Absolutely.

Starting point is 02:22:40 I feel so much better hearing similar encounters and just you get that validation when you hear something similar. You're like, yeah, I wasn't imagining that shit. Like it happens to other people. So, yeah, the best thing to do was to share your story in a safe platform. Yes, exactly. Thank you, Brian. And if you want to contact me directly, listeners, you can send me an email. Bigfoot Society at gmail.com is the easiest way to do that.

Starting point is 02:23:14 But Brian, thank you so much for hanging out. We're going to chat for a little bit longer. And I know sometimes I ramble on and I have to fast forward and rewind, but it's hard when you have so much to say to try to fit it all into an hour. You know what I mean? Oh, I get it. But no, I thank you, man.

Starting point is 02:23:32 Thank you for having me on. Let me share what's happen to me. Again, a special thanks to Brian Garvey from Brian and Chewy Go Hiking on YouTube for spending some time with me on the podcast, sharing his Bigfoot encounters. Ryan and I speak for an extra 30 minutes in Bigfoot Society off record, which is pretty much when me and the guest hang out for an extra period of time for the Patreon. And you can also hear it on the YouTube channel if you become a supporting member over there as well.

Starting point is 02:24:05 We talk about crazy moose encounters and I share a moose encounter that. happened to my family up in Kattaud and Maine when I was a very young child and it gets pretty intense. So you don't want to miss it. Again, you can listen to Bigfoot Society off record by joining the Patreon or becoming a YouTube channel member. You can find those links in the show notes. Again, thank you for listening. If you'd like to make a special one-time donation to Bigfoot Society, you can head on over to our Buy Me a Coffee page. and I'd like to shout out

Starting point is 02:24:40 someone who has bought us a coffee this last week, Mr. Wayland W. Colburn. His message is, I love the show. I used to listen to. Insert the name of another popular Bigfoot encounter podcast. But they never have any new stuff. Keep up the good work, my friend. Well, I appreciate that, Wayland.

Starting point is 02:24:58 If you'd like to buy me a coffee as well, you can head on over to the show notes and find the link in there. Become a supporting member of the Bigfoot Society podcast by going to www. patreon.com forward slash the Bigfoot Society and receive extra episodes and early ad-free episodes as well. If you've got a personal Bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast, please head on over to www.bighfootsocietypodcast.com.

Starting point is 02:25:30 There you'll find the Share Your Bigfoot Encounter form a little lower on the page, and please take a minute to share as many details as you can. Please state if the encounter is anonymous or what name you would like associated with the encounter. And as always, thanks for listening. And real quick, before we go, one last thing. If you're in Iowa and you would like to hear me give a presentation, I am doing presentations at the Erlom Public Library.

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Bigfoot Society - "I was Trapped inside my Tent and it was Outside" Bigfoot in New Hampshire with Brian Garvey

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