Bigfoot Society - I'm just the Deliveryman.

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

In this gripping episode, seasoned truck driver Arturo from South Oregon reveals his astonishing, life-altering experiences. From a bizarre 2010 sighting of a massive creature possibly linked to Sasquatch legends, giants, and ancient cavemen, to a chilling tale involving a secluded gold mining area, Arturo weaves a story filled with intrigue, mystery, and supernatural speculation. Unraveling accounts of a fatal gold strike, human greed, guilt, and eerie local practices along the Oregon-California border, this episode delves deep into unsolved mysteries and folklore that continue to haunt the region.Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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and I'm glad I'm actually able to talk to him on air now. And Arturo, how are you doing tonight, sir? Pretty good. Fantastic. And the road is treating you well out there? Yeah, it's not the time of year. I have to really deal with the snow and ice and all that. So summertime is high mileage, good pay.

So really enjoy the spring and the summer. Fall and winter, I'm going to get to be a little more cautious with other drivers and road conditions. But right now it's a great time of year to be driving truck. Absolutely. Just you in the open road. Sounds great. Well, Arturo, you've got some really interesting things to share. We talked a little bit earlier today.

And the stuff that you told me then, I was like, wow, this is going to be a very unique one. I'm excited to get into it. So Arturo, I'm going to let you go. ahead and take us where we need to go with what you've experienced. Okay, well, it's going to be a two-part thing. The first part will be my personal experiences and what happened to me back in 2010. And the second part will be a account of a story of I know of what happened in southern Oregon.

But I guess we'll start with 2010, my personal experience. I've always been a kind of heavier set guy. I was like about 250 pounds since high school. And a couple years before my incident, I'd been in a really bad car wreck. And I ended up being in intensive care for a long time and bedridden for a couple months. And like, you know, a whole year of therapy, just be able to walk good again and all that. And during that period, I'd put on about another 100 pounds. So I was really large up to like 350 pounds.

and my health came a big concern for me, and I'd always been kind of into, like, bushcraft and survivalism, and, you know, since I was a kid watching Terminator and, you know, things like that and, like, you know, a lot of things like that. But I was really into the wilderness and outdoors, so I decided for the better my health I was going to start doing some, you know, short hikes and maybe getting out and practicing a little bushcraft. So I started to do that in Southern California.

and this area between Orange County and Riverside County, there is a road that kind of divided to two counties on this mountaintop. But below that in the valley, there was a couple of creeks with small waterfalls and things like that. There was a basically BLM road that went up into the area, so I started going there as far as I could drive, and then I parked my truck. and I was doing these short hikes about three quarters of a mile in and I'd hang out at the creek and, you know, mess around bushcraft and practicing doing like bow drill and hand drill starting fires

and different things like that, do some wood carving. And I was doing that for a while. And then eventually there's too many accidents on that mountain of people, mostly like high school kids partying up in the hills and driving off the edge of the sides of the mountains and lay it to a couple fatalities. So they closed the road down where I used to drive in to get to that area. So then it became a thing of, you know, limitation on the, if I was going to hike in there, it became about five and a half to maybe six and a half mile hike to get to that area where I was hanging out.

So I decided to start, you know, hiking in and bringing a hammock so I could just stay overnight or hike in, hang out for the day. you know, have a little fun, stay of the night and then hike out the next day, so I wouldn't have to, you know, try to do a 10, 12-mile hike in one day. So I started doing that for a while, started building a pretty decent kind of permanent structure, but there was a small series of mines and caves and stuff over there where they used to look for, I think they were looking for copper and silver

and different minerals and stuff, but they basically all ran dry and had got closed down, So the forager service had one in and put concrete and rebar up on all the interests to close them off. But I found one of those was a fairly good size opening. And I noticed that there was constantly a draft that pulled into the cave. So I was like, you know, it's going to be an awesome location to build a little permanent structure.

So that's what I did. And had a little fire pit to the back I built. And really nice, I could have a small fire in there. And the smoke and all these draft into the. the tunnel and come up out the hill somewhere. So I fortified the entrance real good. It was built up real nice and behind a big brush line. It was really hard to find the spot and I always try to take different routes going

to my little hideaway. But at the time of doing that, I had this little Chihuahua mixed dog that I had gotten was a rescue. My former employer, his wife was real big on rescuing every animal, you know, she'd find strays, bring him back and all this. But this little dog ended up being a crazy dog, and a little tiny chihuahua just scared to everybody. And they told me if I could take them for a couple days,

so they could, you know, find an owner, somebody that would be willing to take them. And the dog ended up just like, just following me around everywhere, abade me and everything. So I decided to keep that dog and solve the whole problem. And then I had to have somebody to do my little hikes with me and stuff. But the dog really didn't like him. anybody or listen to anybody, anybody got within 10, 15 feet of me or anybody at my house.

He'd start growling and barking and, you know, the whole chihuahua yapping thing. But I started to notice when we were hiking in when we got to a certain point where there is this ridge. My dog would always get distracted and he'd put his ears up. Like if I'd call whistle for the dog or whatever, get over here, you know. He'd put his ears up. He'd look around and he'd run right at me. And he never did that for anybody else.

like ever, not even the people who live with me. He just wouldn't respond to anybody, but I started to notice when we get to his point. He'd put his ears up, like, if I was calling him, and he'd just go running off in the bush, go trying to get up to that ridge up there. And I started bothering me, like, what is this dog hearing that's like attracting him so much that he's just completely disobeying my commands, you know, running off. So, you know, I started, you know, kind of watching him more. And I got to the point where he was just like, he'd take off and he'd be gone for like an hour.

I just continue hiking towards my little bushcraft shelter I built. And I just got really annoyed because I started putting them on a leash when we go past the section. And I started to realize that like, every time we go through that section, besides the dog acting, you know, completely out of the ordinary, just completely, you know, different from his normal day to day. I started noticing I always had the sensation of, you know, being watched, you know. And then I started thinking, oh, well, maybe somebody, else has a camp there.

Maybe it's, you know, there was some transient and homeless people in the area that used to camp out there, but they're more down the valley towards all where the massive amount of citrus, orange groves and grapefruit were and things like that. So I wasn't really thinking it was that. And then I thought, you know, it's just a weird feeling. And one day particular, we were walking in. The ridge is above me to my left side. and it was probably about 60, 70 yards up the side of this hill was a real steep cliff.

As I was walking, it was a real quiet day, like hardly no wind, nothing, and everything got real quiet. And I started actually hearing like leaves rustling and things like that. And then at one point I saw a couple little small rocks like rolled down the hill. So it caused me to look up to my left and I realized that my dog was already staring up at that direction the whole time we were walking so I started really paying attention to that ridge to the left of me so I'm just like walking ahead and just kind of focusing to my left the whole time and I'm really getting that eerie feeling of just being watched so I just come to a complete stop I start glancing the ridge and then uh that's that's when I saw them right and uh

you know I've heard a lot of things about you know Bigfoot being this big giant you know, gorilla ape and type things like that. What I saw was nothing looking like a bigfoot, you know. And the best way I can explain it is like I grew up in the early 80s watching wrestling and Hulk Hogan and all that. I kind of pictured it. It would be like Andre the Giant that they had from wrestling back in the day. But it looked like Andre the Giant with like totally straight hair, not curly hair,

the hair had like a light red tint to it but with a lot of gray hair like an old man but it looked like a caveman you know like not with like you see with like the loincloth you know patch of animal fur over him carrying a club it just looked kind of like a nanderthal but just like really huge like Andre the Giant so i stopped i'm like staring at it and i'm like so the photo i'm so confused on what i'm seeing I just start to slowly just keep walking forward and I'm staring up at the hill. And when I'm seeing starts to walk forward too

and it's staring right back at me and my dog just full eye contact. I'm walking almost like 20, 30 yards staring up the hill as the thing I'm watching goes to where there's like a clearing of trees and it's not such a wide open part of the ridge. The thing I'm watching is watching me so attentively just like I'm watching him, the thing I'm watching walks right into a tree branch

that was right at its head level and just smacked it in the head. And so I was like, what? I saw the whole tree shake real bad and the thing let out this roar like a yelp. Like I tried to explain my one buddy, it's like, you know, like you're walking down the hallway, you know, the middle of the night,

you get up to take a leak, and you're walking down the hallway, and you just stub your toe, you know, just like unexpected pants. out of nowhere and you're like oh you know you know let out of sound you know and it was kind of like that

and then it looked stunned and then it looked away from me looked at the tree branch it put its left arm up to where his left arm was like level with its eyesight almost grabbed the branch and it just bent it all the way back snapped it off

and kind of scurred it away a little quicker and it just disappeared And then no more sound, no more nothing. And I was so confused. I kept trying to just play back in my mind of what I just saw. I really started thinking about it. And like the way the body was, I just kept thinking like, you know, like,

this was like a really old, like really obese man. You know, like I'm a big guy walking out there. I'm struggling to make this hike all the time, you know. And I'm seeing this other creature that looks way, very, very old. and very, very heavy set, too, but with a lot of muscle. And what I remember when I was looking at it, I used to work at an animal shelter probably three or four years prior to that. And we had a dog that came in that we had to quarantine

and kind of put in its own separate kennel out in the field in a different area and all that. And I'm like, well, why is that dog out there? And they said, oh, well, that dog has mange. It's real highly contagious. You know, the other animals can get it real quick. We've got to keep them separate. You know, if we go in there to feed them, we have to bleach the things down. I have to wear rubber boots and gloves and everything's got to get bleached to sanitize.

But I remember about the dog having kind of like big patches of fur missing that looked all like scratched up and kind of scabby. And that was the same thing that I saw on, you know, what I refer to as Andre the Giant. And it had, I just remember having big patches of like, where it had been like scratching at itself to where like the fur was gone and it was just like raw kind of scabby, you know, nastiness underneath. And it just looked like in such poor health. Like, you know, I'm out there struggling and, you know, and I see this other thing. And then I was thinking, is this thing always following me because, you know, he's feeling sorry for me trying to get. up this ridge up this hill all the time, you know, is he, like a sympathetic thing, you know, like when I walk through, he walks through just to, you know, see if I could make it, or is he,

you know, somehow kind of like, sublimably, like, encourage me to keep going every time that I'm, you know, struggling, trying to get through. And basically, you know, he went over the ridge. I lost sight of him. And then, uh, I had to spend, like, the next three or four hours almost, like, trying to figure out how to get up to that spot where I'd saw the thing, you know. And it was very difficult. It was a high steep ridge. So I ended up hiking ahead about a quarter mile trying to find a way up, couldn't find nothing. Because it was so vertical steep, I couldn't get up there.

So then I ended up hiking back about a quarter mile backwards. And I found a little small kind of game trail, but it was still pretty steep. but I was able to get up the hillside by just like pulling on the roots of different trees and little shrubs and I got myself up there and I got to the spot where he had smacked his head on that branch and just reached up and just broke that whole branch

and the first thing I noticed that that branch was like four or five inches thick you know it was the very bottom branch of the tree of a big big tree so it was a nice thick branch and I was thinking how did it snap? that and then I went closer, got up there, and I was trying to grab it to see, you know,

just how stiff or whatever the branch was. That's what I realized that the branch was so high up. You know, I'm only 5'10, and I put my arm up as high as I could put it up so that, I don't know if that's another foot and a half up or so, and I couldn't even touch the branch. I had to pull out my little hiking stick, the telescoping one I had, and with it just, a, like one slot like halfway out, so I had to add about another foot and a half or so to, you know, the height of my arm. I was able to smack that branch and it was a live green tree where the break was. It looked really fibrous. You can see like the fibers in the tree, like

splintering open and even had like a slight bit of sap kind of oozing out by then, but it was a totally fresh tree. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. What if you could get more from what you already do? As a shell fuel rewards member, that's just a regular Saturday. You get more rewards, more savings, and more special offers. Earn rewards when shopping, dining out, and fueling up. And all of that becomes fuel savings when you're at the pump. See, there are no extra steps and no changes to your routine, just more value built into it. It fits naturally into what you already. do throughout your day.

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really sawing through material to build for, you know, certain structures or for just firewood or kind of kindling, whatever. A lot of times I'll find a tree or two trees next to each other that are kind of wedged into V shape and I'll take a dead standing wood that I find. It's maybe two, three inches in diameter and I'll wedge it down between the tree. And then I use my upper body to press against it and then kind of use a pendulum. You'll use a little. leverage to just snap the tree. But that only works on dead trees, you know, if it's something live, green tree, you're going to be pulling out and it's just going to bend and bend and not snap.

If anything is going to, you know, shove me back on the ground. So then I was just so confused about that. I didn't know what to do. I just looked at everything, stared there for a while, realized it was already getting pretty dark at that point because it took me forever to get up there. And I'm like, well, either I got to keep going forward to get to my shelter or head back to the truck. I just didn't feel like staying there with only having a Ruger 1022 rifle on me. And that's I used to carry a survival knife, a bushcraft knife, and a Ruger 1022.

But that was mostly used for just plankton and squirrel hunting and rabbit hunting. I just had like a big fear of me, whatever this thing was able to, you know, just completely snap that branch that, by 22 was going to do nothing, so I decided to leave and I hiked back out and that's basically the first half of my encounter with Andre. This is really interesting. This is a very unique account, you would say. I haven't gotten many like these. I'm just going to refer to as Andre.

Was Andre wearing any clothes then, or was it like, Pretty much nothing. Nothing. Okay. Nothing. You mentioned at one point there was fur. This individual, was it covered with fur or was hair, or what did you notice in that? It looked like, kind of like my old high school gym teacher.

Like he'd take his shirt off and he just had his hair, his whole body. But the thing it was crazy, I've never seen somebody with that much hair over their chest. and their arms and their neck and all that without, you know, it's always like curly hair. All this hair was straight. There's a lot of hair over the whole body except for like over the pecks of the chest, like where the nipple would be. It was kind of bald right there. And then on the center of like where the belly would be is kind of balding right there.

But all the hair was straight. There was no curly hair. It was all real straight, really fine in hair. Gotcha. Is there a color that kind of stood out about Andre? Well, if anything, I would say, it was kind of like a reddish brown, but kind of like if you have like a chocolate lab or something, but it was like that, but like if it was really aged, like very old.

Okay. Like if a lot of that hair had already turned like gray and white, you know, like if it was younger, it would have been like looking like a chocolate lab. It just looked so old like a lot of the hair had turned gray. It was really faded, you know. How tall would you say it was? For the height of the head where that branch was, I'm just estimating probably about eight and a half foot up to where that branch was where it smacked its head on.

Definitely. Did you notice anything about the arms, the arm length, anything like that? Well, when he put his, like, forearm up to put his hand on the branch, to, like, push the branch out of the way that it smacked its head on, the arms still had, like, really huge muscles in the arms. It was, like, you know, it was, you know, like Schwarzenegger back in the day, but just, like, a lot of hair. It looked extremely muscular, but at the same time, it looked like,

if it was like overweight, you know, and I'm a big guy, you know, so I was just like kind of judging off myself of, you know, how my body structure looks, you know, at that time being about 350. And prior, I, I did do a little bit of wrestling and MMA fighting. I did use to train, but I never got extremely yoked, you know, I was never a bodybuilder, but I know what it's like to have some muscle mass with fat over it and just kind of looking from what I saw compared to that height to the like the build of my body and all that you know i was honestly nothing had away you know 700 pounds or something or 800 pounds at least you know but i did i did see a lot of good amount of muscle you know okay yeah were there any points where it was walking and you saw the the arms

they were kind of like down by its side at all almost the whole way that it was walking the arms were, you know, hanging down towards the waist. It never put its arms up until it hit the tree branch. The whole time I was walking, I was just kind of like walking with his arms down and his side, but they were kind of slightly swaying maybe back and forth about a foot, foot and a half or so, but it wasn't like swinging its arms as it was walking. It was just kind of just swaying them side to side as it was pacing me. and if you had to imagine like let's imagine the hands are you know the arms are by the side it's walking how far down would the tips of the finger on the hands go are they going above the knee or are they going way down the leg past that probably like choose a knee okay interesting hands were massive were the hands covered with

with fur or hair, or could you see, like, the actual fingers and the palm? I could see fingers of the hands, you know, and then I couldn't really see fingernails, though. But I do remember when it put its forearm in front of it to grab that tree, it looked like its fingers almost touched each other on the other side of the tree branch when it was going to break it. because the side I was looking at, I was on the side that I was between him and the tree branch. You know, so he put his arm up, his fingers went around the branch, and on the other side it looked like his fingers almost touched. And when I went up there, that tree branch was, you know, four or five inches thick, you know, maybe six inches. I doubt it was six, but probably four or five inches thick.

and as I'm sitting there, I'm holding the handle of the little walking stick that I got, and it's kind of like a bicycle grip size, you know, and I'm holding on to that in my hand, and I'm looking at it like me and my fingers wrap around my thumb, touch my, you know, index finger, and my thumb's barely touching there, holding on that bike grip thing, and I'm looking at that thing, and I was thinking, how big is a hand have to be to go around that big old piece of tree and touch the fingers, you know? Oh, absolutely. Did you notice, I don't know if you got the chance to count, but how many fingers it had on each hand?

It just looked like a normal human hand, kind of like it did look like it had a thumb and five, you know, four fingers. You know, I didn't see any look like extra or less that I could tell. It just looked like kind of like a human hand. Got it. You mentioned there was a time when you. you were actually having prolonged eye contact as you both were walking. Did you... Yeah.

So I would imagine that you were able to look into the eyes. Do you remember, were there any whites to the eyes at all? Or was it maybe all dark? No, it was like really yellow. Kind of remind me of... we had a neighbor for a while that was a really bad alcoholic and he had all kinds of kidney failure and he was constantly like going in for dialysis and you know filter his blood off machines and all that but uh i don't remember what they what it was called but he had something that when your kidneys

go bad stops filtering but uh your eyes go all yellow and kind of red like bloodshot looking right or it was uh not jaundice or i can't remember what it was called uh But it looked like my neighbor that was like the bad alcoholic, just really yellow eyes. And the pupils were just like solid, like dark brown or black, but just really yellow and just looking like sick. Like, you know, I didn't see no bright white at all. Okay. But it definitely had a pupil. Yes.

Okay. Did the head have a shape to it at all? it looked just like Andre the Giant from wrestling from back in the 80s as far as like the way his forehead came down and like his eyebrow line how it kind of came out and like the kind of wider nose on his face and everything is like really similar to like Andre the Giant so definitely from what I'm hearing I'm hearing not like a conical shape head just like a big old head yes interesting what kind of neck did this guy have it was a really short was like almost like the head was just like right on the collarbone like there wasn't i didn't really see too much of a neck at all did you notice any details about the forehead or the um the area above the eyes when you were looking at it just how the forehead kind of came down and then where the eyebrows were

be it looked like you know like the bones like around the eye socket were like kind of like over emphasized like you know they were really large like behind where your eyebrows would be like if almost there was like a finger like under the skin you know they were like you know like you know not like a roll of pennies but it was like you know just something way larger under the eyebrows that made that part of the lower part of the forehead stick out so far It sounds like definitely a pronounced browridge, kind of like when you see those old movies with Neanderthals and you just got that really large bone structure right above the eyes where just kind of a roll of pennies is a good way to say it. Did you notice anything out of the ordinary about the nose? Just that it was wide.

That was about it. And there was no hair on the nose at all. I didn't see any hair on there or no hair coming out from the nose either. and there was like no like mustache really all the hair was from like the lower lip downward and kind of high up on the cheeks but there was nothing on the nose or the upper lip as far as hair was the nose smushed like it'd been smushed against the face i remember being really broad and wide and it wasn't really sticking out far for as wide as it was you'd think it'd be like you know kind of proportionate of it like width to length, but it wasn't really sticking out that far compared to how white it was. Had nostrils, like, hooded. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Anything out of the ordinary with the mouth? Was it wide? Anything you noticed? It wasn't too over wide, but I kept remembering trying to look to see if I could see teeth. And then especially when it yelled, it opened its mouth, but I didn't see teeth. I was trying to see if it had like animal teeth or like human teeth, but I just never saw teeth.

I remember I kept looking, try to see if I could see teeth, but I just never saw teeth. Okay, interesting. So there was never like a bearing teeth at you or anything like that? No. No, the only, the whole time it was just, like, I don't know if I was like being watched. Like if he was watching me, like, you know, I had like a security guard following me or if he was just watching me. to make sure I wasn't like a threat, you know, just like he was doing security, you know, like, he's the one like, hey, you need, I see you like, you better stay back, you know.

But I never, during that whole incident, I never felt any threat. And even when he yelled, when he hit his head, I didn't get scared like he was yelling at me. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. What if you could get more from what you already do? As a Shell Fuel Rewards member, that's just a regular Saturday. You get more rewards, more savings, and more special offers. Earn rewards when shopping, dining out, and fueling up. And all of that becomes fuel savings when you're at the pump.

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difficult. Talked on your doctor or pharmaceutical, patrocinoed for G. He was just, he yelled at the tree. Like he was upset at the tree like if you stub your dough,

you know, it's just like an outburst, you know, from pain. Exactly. You know, but it wasn't directed It wasn't looking downward towards me when he yelled or anything. It wasn't directed towards me at all.

So I never got that fear of, oh, you know, he's coming for me, you know, anything like that. Sure. Different creatures have different ways of walking, right? Everything has its gate, its way of walking. Did you notice anything about the way that Andre creature was walking that you're like, man, that is really unique. there's something different about the way that it's moving. I just noticed that when it started to walk after, like, I was just looking around, I first spotted it,

when it first started to pace me, when I was like, what? I started to walk and I was staring at it. Then when it first started to walk, it was limping, like, if it was favoring one leg over the other, like, a lot. Like, if one leg had an injury or something, you know, Like if you got a cast on one foot, you know, with one of those walking boots or whatever, and you're just like walking anyways, but, you know, one's not working right. I got you. I gotcha. Did it have good posture at all, or was it, you know?

No, it was kind of slunched over a bit, you know. Wasn't really like humpback, you know, like Notre Dame, you know, but it looked like it was the whole time it was. slunched a bit forward. Okay. That's really interesting. So Arturo, this is such an interesting one. And I almost have to ask, like, do you think you were looking at a Bigfoot or a Sasquatch?

Or do you think you were looking at something else? The whole thing of Bigfoot and Sasquatch never really came to my mind until I started doing research. But what I thought really was, I thought I saw a caveman. a giant, right? Because I was thinking to Andre the giant. So I started doing a lot of research on giants, you know, and I got found out about giganticicism and things like that. And I thought it was maybe that for a little bit, but then a lot of the research I was looking at that most people with giganticansism don't live that long because they're, you know, pituitary glands, whatever, their body is like overgrowing so quick that they, most people die like in their 20s or 30s,

you know, and this thing was really old man status, you know, like it was, you know, as normal human had to have been 80s or 90s, you know, maybe pushing 100. So I'm like, there's no way this could be a person with geneticism because they die so young, you know, because the way their body overgrows and they just can't handle it and their heart gives out. So I was looking at that and then I started getting these stories about the giants that were found on Catalina Island and some of New Mexico. co in a cave that the natives had been battling for a while. And that kind of caught my interest because they said that those, you know,

tribe of giant people that the locals had been fighting had red hair, big red beards and long red hair. And what I saw had kind of that reddish chocolate hair. So I started, you know, I started going down that path, you know, trying to find out about, you know, these giants that had been supposedly, you know, fighting the natives and they cornered him in his cave. And instead of losing anybody else, they built a big giant fire in front of the cave to smoke them out.

And, you know, just kill them by, you know, carbon monoxide poisoning or whatever. And so that kind of led me down that path for a while. And then from that it started turning towards cryptids, you know, doing research kind of. And then Bigfoot came up quite a bit of times, but I never really just put my figure you're on it, oh, I saw the Bigfoot. Because in my mind, it just, you know, was always a caveman, you know. It's extremely interesting. Did you ever look to see if there had been other sightings in that same area of things that are out of the ordinary, like what you saw?

Well, let me get to the second part of the Southern California thing. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. After that, after that incident, I'm going to say probably, it was almost like a. exactly about 14 years ago to the day, almost my birthday is, we'll just say my birthday is this week. And it was the same week of my birthday in 2010. And I had made it out to my Bushcraft Shelters, hang out overnight. And I was actually like in the middle of a breakup with the girlfriend and all that.

I was like, you know, I'm just going to disappear for a while. I'm going to go out in the woods, you know, unwind, relax. So I got me a bottle of Jack Daniel. and got me some MREs for a couple days and some freeze-dried food. I was like, you know, I'm going to go hang out the creek. And I was out there, and Southern California has a lot of wildfires,

you know, it's the same with Oregon where I'm at currently. But there was night that I was sitting there sleeping. I had just finished, you know, hanging out, chilling, drinking, and I had a little portable Bluetooth speaker with a MP3 player that, you know, you download the music, whatever. and I listened to that and my battery died on the MP3 player so I was like well I guess that's a wrap you know it's time to go to bed so I I'd lay down in the little raised bed I'd built in my shelter

and I had a small fire going in my shelter but like in the cave entrance part to where you know like I said the smoke would pull away and all that I'd just get a little radiant heat little light but it was like a really hot night so I wasn't really had a big fire going so I could smell the smoke from my fire but not really too bad. And I'd been laying down for about a half hour. I was almost asleep. And then I heard like a phone,

man, I put the side of my shelter. I was like, what was that? It was like if a bird flew into the side or something, and I was thinking, oh, well,

there's a lot of owls around there and there's a lot of bats from the caves around there. And I was like, well, maybe an owl or a bird or something flew into the shelter. About a minute goes by, I heard another one,

another one. Then it starts getting louder, and it's like, a more faster, just like a rapid pace of things hitting the side of my shelter. I guess the point where I could hear the things hitting my shelter and then kind of rolling away down the slope. So I was like, so we're throwing rocks at my, you know, at my spot? I was like, what the, and by then I'd already stopped carrying my Ruger 1022

and started carrying my Glock to 45 APC with some heavy hard cast bullets, some buffalo boards, you know, plus peace, you know, some bear stopping rounds. because there had recently been a lot of spottings of mountain lines in the area and a couple mountain buyers that had been attacked on the Orange County side of the mountain. So I had my pistol. I was like, you know, I'm going to go outside, maybe just pop around off on the dirt, chase the people off and go to sleep. And then there became an urgency to it, right? As I'm like trying to debate whether or not to go out of the shelter and, you know, maybe yell, scream a little bit or whatever.

I'm like, all right, well, something's got to be. done. So right as I'm like putting my headlamp on and turning the light on my firearm, I go to stand up in the shelter and there's a pause for a minute. And then it rock hits my shelter that was so big, it broke the wall down on the entry like could be the, I don't know, the southwest corner of my structure, but the very outside corner, there was a couple pieces of timber that came out further where I'd hang things off on the outside you know hanging to Europe or swimming in the creek you know hang up the shorts up there to dry off or whatever but a rock had got thrown out the shelter that was so big so hard that it ripped that

whole wall in my shelter open so all of a sudden I'm standing there and the whole left wall my shelter just gets ripped open leans over and it and the boards are like still attached together because I'd used a paracord fight 50 cord to lasso the walls together, but it hit hard enough where it ripped out all the paracord up and down the seam. The wall stayed intact and it just ripped the wall open like two feet, three feet open. That's when I was like, what could possibly do that? Like you had to hit it with the truck or something.

So I go swing the dope and to go out of the shelter and I look to that side because that's where the wall came off. It was pitch black nothing and then I realized that there's a lot of smoke everywhere. I look back to the right that's going down the valley towards where the road is where I hike in. And I notice that the whole hillside is on fire all the way up to valley, all the way up to creek where my whole path where I go to get in there is completely on fire. Then fire's coming up to hill. You know, it comes uphill a lot quicker than down here, but the fire is coming uphill towards me. So I freak out, get in my shelter.

I throw on my, this Alice pack I'd gotten from a buddy, the military is my favorite pack, but anyways, I throw my Alice pack on, go out of the shelter. I'm looking around, looking around, trying to figure out what's going on. That's when I see this massive rock on the floor that's like over a foot, maybe foot and a half a diameter, laying right outside on the side of the wall, the shelter. And I was like, that rock is what broke the wall. Then I started thinking, what could have thrown? that rock. You know, how that rock couldn't have fallen off the hill would have came down and hit the

roof of my shelter. You know, it's obviously thrown from an angle from like from the creek. I'm looking at this big rock. I freak out. I see the fire getting closer. I'm just like, screw this, started going up the valley, up the hill towards where the dried out waterfalls were. And they had a rope that was tied to the side and sometimes in the water side, the kids will go up there and swing off the rope and jump. up into the creek, but I knew if I got to where that rope was, I could pull myself up to dry waterfall and I'd be to an area that was only grass and dirt and there was no trees or shrubs. You know, nothing made her to catch fire. So I made my way over there and I got over there and I was having a lot of difficulty

firing that rope. I was looking at a panic state. You know, I'm already out of breath. You know, I just hoofed it like a good, you know, quarter mile, half a mile as quick as I could to get to that waterfell. fall as the fires fall on me. Then I started noticing the hillsides around me. I could see some lights from the fire trucks.

And I didn't see a water dropping helicopter, but usually they wouldn't drop water at night. Usually they only fly in the daytime. So I'm like looking around, looking around. I finally find the rope, get up that little waterfall. I get to a dry flat spot. And then I just sit down in the dirt and I'm watching the fire go up through the little valley. And then exactly where that bend was when my shelter was, that whole thing is. bursts into flames, rip-worn, and I'm sitting up there on the dirt,

looking, watching my whole shelters burn to the ground. And then I was kind of just, like, shocked at all, man, I just, all that work I've been putting into for, you know, six, seven months building that shelter, it was just burnt to nothing. And then I started thinking about, well, what threw that rock? And then, right as I'm thinking that, my dog does his thing where he just kind of starts flipping out. Like, you hear something.

My dog goes taking off running again. I was like Duke, get back here, get back here. And he goes, took it off running kind of towards the fire. And then I was thinking, that was Andre that had to have been Andre that was, you know, throwing those little rocks at my shelter kind of like warn me. And I was just ignoring it. So that's when it just threw that massive rock and just busted the whole wall down to tell me like, hey, get out of there, you know, you got to go.

And then that's when I was like, that thing just saved me. That thing just saved my life, you know? then I came over this like overwhelming like emotional feelings where like I almost busted down in tears almost crying I'm just sitting there and I just sat there on that ridge all night till the sun came up watching the watching everything burned down and that morning once the sun was up real good I was able to find a nice path to hike out and hiked out and left and I've never been there since and it's been almost about 14 years since the day that is incredible I mean, it honestly sounds like Andre wanted you saved. Yeah, I can't think of anything else that would have, you know, I was capable of doing that, you know, or would have done that, you know. That's just a physical ability of lifting the rock that large and throwing it so hard

that it busted a whole wall off my shelter, you know. I built that thing well, you know. Absolutely. Is there a reason that you haven't been back in 14 years? years or it just hasn't happened? Well, after everything burned down, I was so confused about what Andre was and all that. You know, and I, like I said, never felt threatened by him. But I was like, well, if there's one, there might be more.

And what if the other ones aren't looking out for me, you know? If this was able to do so much stuff to help save me protect my life, you know, how quick could one of those take my life, you know. All of a sudden, my 45 didn't seem like it was going to do anything, you know. So I just got real cautious and I was like, you know, I got to figure out what's out there, you know, and I started getting close to there, like, and I had a neighbor that worked in those orchards over there at the bottom of the hill. And we were talking about the fire one day.

And there's an older bicycle, older Mexican guy. I'm half Mexican. and we were talking in Spanish. And then he was telling me, he was like, oh, and I was telling me, oh, I had a little cabin there and all that. And then he said, oh, we'll be careful when you're out there. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. What if you could get more from what you already do?

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well, he's like, oh, well, he said, you know, and that's when he said,

he said, hey, you know, the mountain people are there and all that. Like, what are you talking about, you know?

I didn't acknowledge anything of, you know, what I saw with Andre and then he just said, oh, there's just some big scary people there, so we just,

we avoid that area. He's like, yeah, just be careful when you're out there. You know, that's the only reference that I heard

from anybody of you know anything being in that area wow it sounds like sounds like he knew something was going on for sure that is really interesting i think this interview might open up so i'm not sure what to think about arturo uh this is a really really interesting one it'd be interesting to see what the the comments are like on this one for sure uh man I've never heard it described like that before just the way it looks. It's really weird. Thank you for sharing. No problem.

The one that we were talking about before a few hours ago, that, yeah, that one is incredibly, I want to hear the whole story of this. one coming up yeah all right well fast forward to this actually happened like at the beginning of the whole rona deal and all that you know during lockdowns and all that but prior that uh i had been working for a sanitation company doing porta potty and pumping out RVs and holding tanks and things like that for one of the larger companies in southern Oregon uh but i had a pretty Thoroughly background in off-roading and things like that. And the boss found out that, you know, had a lot of, you know, skills with equipment in, you know, deep woods, sand, terrain, desert, snow, mud, you know, the red clay, all kinds of stuff.

And I was one of the newer guys, and they had sent me on a call to where a lot of people had gotten stuck in the trucks because those trucks are pretty heavy. You know, most of them we have about a thousand gallons. holding tank and maybe 400 gallon fresh water tank for cleaning the units out and refilling the water and all that but they're pretty heavy most of them are only two-wheel drive and drivers get stuck everywhere and the boss was just tired of paying toe bills to recover all these trucks and then he said hey one of the guys said you know you know you know your way around off-road and all that and I said yeah and he said hey we got a bunch of units toilets this guy hasn't paid his bill in

months and we sent a couple people out there to pick them up but Everybody gets stuck trying to get out there. You know, you think you could do it. So I went out there and lower tire pressure, use low gears and everything. And with the two-wheel drive, F-350, I got out there, got the units, brought them back. And then from that day on, after that first week of working there,

like all the rural mountain routes and all the far-off locations, those became my routes. There was this valley in southern Oregon where quite a bit of growing, sites and there was a lot of gold mines, you know, a lot of claims out there, but it was all off of forest service roads and little plots of private property, but most of it was in the, you know, U.S. Forestry Service and things like that are off the edges of, you know, state parks and stuff. But so I end up getting this route going out to these locations where basically go to these locations, the directions would be, you know, three quarters a mile down this road.

and you see fork in the road, you know, look for the bent tree, make a right, you know, go down to the, you know, abandoned double wide, make a left. You know, they're all no addresses, anything like that. And I got real good at navigating out there. And over a point of about four and a half, five year period of going out to these rural sites where whether they're gold mining or growing security is like of the utmost thing, like everybody there is. real, you know, real unfriendly to newcomers and outsiders and all that. And, you know, people start driving up the hill. And a lot of the people, they'd get on their CB radio, start talking like, hey, there's, you know, a white truck coming up to hill, you know, anybody expecting visitors, or we see a new

vehicle or, you know, there's a sheriff on the highway or whatever it was. Everybody kind of watched out for each other because they all had their things going on, you know, legal or unlegal, but everybody was real hush about. it, but no matter how tight security it is, you know, everybody loves the guy, you know. That's one thing you need, you know, all those grow sites, gold mines, they all have porta-potties or RVs that need to be pumped out, you know, so like you go up the mountain to service them, you know, some would be on a weekly basis, some would be once a month, you know, depending on what was going on.

But, you know, being the port-a-potty guy, you get access to a lot of spots where nobody's allowed in. You know, I became pretty close friends with a lot of these old timers up there. And one of them, I will just say, there were a lot of old, like, Vietnam vets and things like that, a majority of them and a couple moonshiner's up there. But there's one gentleman in particular that when I used to go start services site, he had an old camper trailer that had it been from like the 70s or 80s, falling apart. Just, you know, the whole roof was like three tarps, you know, glued on duct tape.

He had this old Dodge pickup and just really run down camp, but I'd go out there and he had a porta party that I would service. And then he also had his RV that I'd pump out. And when the winter would come, we'd get good enough snow and all that that, that even the customers up there would have trouble getting out, so they kind of stock up on supplies for, you know, a month and a half, two-month periods sometimes where they couldn't get out either.

But basically the way we'd get service, they'd either be on a set schedule or they'd call for service. And sometimes they wouldn't be able to, you know, call for service, whatever it would be in the area. And it was kind of customer we were used to going to the boss. It would be like, oh, we'll swing by a X location,

see if they need service, you know, while I'm up there. you know, and at one point a winter had started passing, and I came back up at the beginning of the next spring, and I noticed that the old guy will just say Whiskey Pete, whatever, because he did his own shine, moonshine and all that stuff, too. But Whiskey Pete, I go up to Whiskey Pete, and he doesn't have this beat-up little Dodge Ram anymore

in this 1970s trailer all of a sudden. He's got a brand-new Ford F-550 Super Duty four-by-four, uh his old uh beat up john deer tractor he has now he's got brand new skid steer of like a 40 foot big techs trailer with uh brand new cabota tractor sitting on there and a really nice fifth wheel trailer all brand like all the equipment everything on the the whole site was all brand new everything and i'm like hey what's going on bro i was like i thought i was at the wrong spot and i started talking to him and then he just told me he's like yeah things have been crazy around here you know that's why So I came to meet you at the ball.

I was just sure who was coming up and their whole normal paranoid thing. And that's when I was kind of confusing. He came down with that brand new F550. So I ended up going up there, go to pump out his new trailer and all I'm looking around. Like, too, how did you get all this stuff? And then he told me, he's just like, hey, man. And a lot of the guys want to talk to each other and a lot of things. But everybody saw me as the outsiders, like, you know, the safe guy, you know, the porta potty guy.

So they confided me a lot of things. And he just told me, he's like, hey, man, I hit a vein. I said, what does that mean? He's like, dude, I found some gold. I was like, you say that every week when I'm up here, you know? And he's like, no, I found gold. He's like, that's how I bought all this stuff. And he's telling me that, yeah, I've already sent a lot of money to my family.

And he's like, but yeah, I hit a vein. And I'm like, all right, well, cool, man, congrats. And all that stuff. And I was like, there's a lot of equipment, you know, just that F550. I was like, I don't know, $100,000 truck, you know. And he just tell me, he's like, everything's paid in full. That's when I was like, man, man, he really did get lucky. then winter really started like setting in and I'm like all right well you know it's going to be

a while before I see him again I'm like all right well you know I dropped off a holding tank for him it's a large like 150 gallon tank you just put on the floor and run your RV to it for a little extra you know storage to last through the snow and then I was getting ready to leave and then the guy gave me a $300 tip right and I'm like sweet man he's like yeah you know get something for the kids for Christmas I'm like cool man I had a lot of customers who would tip me 20 bucks here and there or, you know, hey, we're barbecuing, you know, you want some ribs or something like that, but I'd never really gotten any large tips before.

So I was like, all right, cool, I pocketed it and everything, and I took off, went on route, started talking to other people. And as soon as I started going to the other growth sites and to the other, you know, mining claims, everybody started drilling me in questions right away. Like, hey, what did you see up there? What's going on? I'm like, no, no, I went up there, service, whatever, they're like, hey, did you see where you know where's the new tractor where's the people were asking all

these questions like what's going on dude like for real and they said oh well we know he found gold but uh he's he's basically closed off the camp nobody's come up here in the camp for a while he doesn't lay anybody in anymore like they're like you're the first person who's been up there in the months he doesn't let anybody in there anymore and he barely gets on the radio to communicate anymore and i'm like oh no i was like i don't know he's doing his thing or whatever I didn't really want to talk about it. And I just finished the route, whatever. Winter ended up wrapping up.

I have not gone up there for like about two months or so. I went back up there. And the gentleman, what I say, Whiskey Pete, came at me with the offer. And he said, hey, man, people have been trying to rob me. You know, he's like, I can't even go down the mountain now without people stopping me trying to rob me. and then I noticed that he had a AK-47 pistol, a Draco, just slung over her side, and he just had it on him.

And before that, I'd see him carry a revolver once in a while. But he was, like, really getting scared. You know, he was like really high up in intensity. And he told me, yeah, he's like, I've been doing real good. And he said, hey, I need you to talk to your boss about something. He's like, you're the only person that can get up and down this mountain without question. And he's like, hey, man, and he showed me this big, concrete slab with

it just looked kind of like a sludge and whatever shit on there with some water on it and he told me he's like hey do you think your truck could pump this stuff up? I said yeah it's just you know there's no big rock so you know clog the clogged the pump up or the valve yeah you know

I could suck that in the tank I was like is that sewage or what was and he said no it's uh you know he's like it's tailings whatever it's crushed he said there's gold in here there's gold in there and he's like yeah it hasn't been cleaned out yet but there's a lot of gold in here. The guy was trying to convince me to ask my boss if I could take a load up there,

just pump out this big slab with the sludge and water on it, and then take it to a, you know, undisclosed location. They said it's going to be probably about 100 miles away. And then just dump out the whole holding tank. He said, yeah, come up here empty, you know, close the tank out, clean it out, come up here, just suck this whole ground up, take it to the place. He said, I'll tell your boss, I'll give him $5,000. I'll give you $5,000.

You know, it was 100 mile drive. And I was like, that's good money, you know, sucking up this. And I was like, it's really good. I'm staring at it. I don't see any gold in there. But he's telling me there's a lot of gold in there. So I'm like, yeah, I'll talk to my boss about it. Talk to my boss about it.

He said, no way. We're not doing nothing with it. Forget about it. I'm like, all right, cool. Conversation done. I went back the next week, told him, hey, I can't do nothing. Maybe call a different septic company. And maybe you can talk somebody else into it,

but boss didn't get let me use equipment. He's like, all right. So that passes in. I'm really like, man, this guy's really got a lot of gold going on. If he's trying to have it pumped into a sewage truck to transport it down the mountain without anybody knowing that he's bringing gold out of his site. So then I'm like, this is getting crazy with this guy.

It's gold, right? He's got a lot of gold, you know. Me and myself, I went painting once or twice in the creek. I never even found a speck of gold, not a flake, nothing, you know. So I'm like, all right, whatever. A little while goes on later, and I'm maybe two, three months past. He doesn't call. He doesn't call for service.

He doesn't call for service. My boss is like, hey, you know, why don't you go up there, take a look? I go to go up there. The whole entry gate is like barricaded off. He's got a bunch of big boulders in the front and then his tractor parked behind the boulders. Like, there's no way I'm getting up there. So I'm like, all right, skip it, mark it off as a, you know, lock gate, no service. go leave winter comes around again

so now it's about a year since he's you know hit a vein as he put it or whatever and uh the boss says hey you need to go up there we haven't serviced this guy for a while so I get up there I go to service him and the gates open those bowlers removed and the tractor's just like off to the side almost like in the ditch like half in the ditch

I drive up there look around his whole camp is just tossed up up. There's just equipment laid over, all his shipping containers are open, wide open, things thrown on the floor, everything. I'm like, what going on? I'm like, well, obviously, you know,

I'm hitting the horn. He doesn't come out, and I'm like, yeah, there's something wrong here. I'm leaving. I turn around, I leave. I go to the next spot and we'll just call this guy the preacher, right? So I go to the preacher's mining claim, very religious man.

And so is a whiskey Pete. And I go over there and I've never seen this guy take a sip for alcohol or smoke or anything. The pastures, I go over the pastures. He's sitting on his front porch. This guy's smashed. He just hammered. Just like plastered drunk. Like, what's going on?

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the whole trailer is already smelling like, you know, dead flesh. The body was like real bloated and all that. And they go outside and they're like, oh, well, we need to call the cops. You know, we need to, you know, notify the family or call, you know, paramedics or somebody to come up, you know, come get his body and this and that. And one of the guys mentioned like, hey, well, should we look around first?

The other guy's like, well, what do you mean? Like, well, he's got all this gold, you know. It's got to be somewhere here. Should we look for the gold first? So they decided, all right, we'll start. Let's look real quick. and then we'll call. And I guess it became this thing where they're up at his,

at his spot, at his claim for like four or five weeks, tearing it up, inch for inch. And that's where all that damage I fall was, everything tossed over. They were looking for his gold. Because he had to come down the mountain for months to hash in gold.

And they know he was bringing a lot of gold. So they're like, this gold has got to be somewhere. So they're looking around, looking around, they're thinking, what if it's under his bed? you know so they told me that they literally rolled over his body on the bed at this point he'd already been dead for six seven weeks you know maybe two months at this point they rolled his body over and folded the mattress and half so they could lift up under his bed and look under his bed for gold they couldn't find any anything under there that was gold at all so as they were putting the unfolding mattress putting it back they noticed that he had his little notepad in his bible and he had and he

his back pocket and he had this little Bible he carried all the time he'd write different things highlight things in there and stuff and this little notepad and they're like oh the note pad so they grabbed the notepad and the Bible out of his pocket they're looking through the notebook and they can't really find anything find anything and they go look in his Bible and there's like a little passage written like a note to his son with GPS coordinates and he told us for his son he's like hey I love you you know I'm sorry for things in life this and that and he's like but you know go to the spot this will change your life So they read that and they immediately thinking

This is where the guy buried the gold This is the coordinates right here This is where the gold is There's a note for his son to get the gold This is the gold, let's go look So they go back The guy yanks his GPS out of his pickup truck They start walking around the GPS

They put the coordinates in and they find this spot That leads them to the GPS coordinates They go out there with shovels and pickaxes And it was a spot where you couldn't really get in with a tractor or any equipment. It's kind of like on the side of a hill. They get to the spot, they start looking around, looking around, and they got a metal detector too,

and then they find this rock hammer. But he says basically like the hammer on one side's like, it's a small hammer, like a little balking hammer kind of. But on one side it's like a little pick and the other side is kind of like a balping, like a flat hammer or whatever. But they find this hammer like buried just like two inches under the dirt. So like, oh, this has got to be. you know, X marks the spot.

They move the hammer, they start digging. At this point, they'd already talked to a lot of other guys in the mountains. Now there's like six dudes out there, all from like 50 years old to like 90 years old bunch of really old dudes, old timers. Digging with shovels and pickaxes. They get down about three or four feet

and they find a large bone. And they're like, you know, did, you know, they knew he'd had problems with people trying to rob them. They're like, well, you know, did he kill somebody? was trying to rob her, you know, and bury the body? And they're like, well, maybe it's not a human bone, you know, let's keep looking. So they keep digging and they start to find more bones and they're like, hey, man, these bones are like really big. And they're like, well, like, well, maybe he buried the gold under the body, you know, thinking if somebody dug down and found a body, they're going to stop digging and the gold's going to be under the body.

You know, so they, amongst each other, they discuss it. And they're like, all right, let's keep digging. they continue to take a little bit more and that's when they find the skull and they realize that the skull is way bigger than a normal human skull and it's not shaped the same as a regular human skull

they get all real confusing they're just discussing what to do and then one of them just says it's Sasquatch and they all look at each other and they're like no way and they're like staring at the skull stare at the skull and they're like

bury it cover it back up cover it back up So they started throwing all the bones back in the hole, put all the dirt over it. They threw that rock hammer at the bottom down where they'd found those bones, covered the whole thing up, left the whole mine, the whole site altogether. They never found any goals. All of them left and decided to, like, do a pack of secrecy that nobody's going to discuss what happened.

They're just going to wait for somebody else to find the body. They're not even going to acknowledge that he's dead. You know, nothing, they were never there. You know, everybody, you know, hush. And, uh, but basically the, you know, pastor of the preacher is, you know, sitting there crying, bawling and just telling me about how he, you know, he's, he's going to go to hell because, uh, you know, the guy was dead up there and, you know, they just hit it, you know, and let his body rot away and wasn't able to,

you know, the family wasn't able to grieve and bury him or anything and just out of their pure greed for gold. And he started telling me how, like, you know, once you get a little gold in your hand, he went more and more. You know, the nugget is never big enough, you know. And he starts telling me about, like, you know, how he got addicted to gold mining, you know,

20 plus years before. And that's been his whole life since. And he was just crying and bawling. I'm like, man, is this real? Like, is this true? But then I was thinking about what I saw with the whole campsite, everything just ripped up and tore up. So I'm like, man.

And I was like, you know, I'm like, Well, why don't you call the cops or something, you know, just unnoticed me. And then he said that one of the other guys had already called, and that they had just been up there like the week before and took in the Whiskey Pete's body. They had already just notified the next akin in there waiting for a next akin to come out to the property and all that stuff. And it just kind of blew my mind that I was more blowing away that the greed of them, having this dead body sitting there while they're tearing up this guy's property looking for golds and then the whole thing of them like turning the body over to look under the bed for gold

because they're so struck by having to find golds you know and the whole story of everything I thought about it you know and I was like that's crazy and then I started thinking about does such I have a dead fast watch on his property like did he kill a fast watch and bury it you know, and then I was like, oh man, this is just crazy. After that, I told my boss, I was like, hey, man, I can't do that route anymore. You know, just tired of dealing with the customers. It's too far between locations, you know. I don't get home until after dark.

I'm just, I'm not going to do the route anymore. So I stopped doing that route and the same thing. I never been back since. Arturo, that's the wildest, hold on. That's the wildest thing I've ever heard on this podcast. Do you think there's a buried Sasquatch skull in that area? It could be, or it really could have been, you know, just a larger person. You know, maybe he did kill somebody that was trying to rob him after he got all that gold, you know,

or maybe, you know, could have been a Sasquatch, but then I was thinking back at it, at the beginning of his property, like in Southern Oregon, a lot of people have Sasquatch stings and little, like, wooden figurines. And a lot of people have this thing. It's like a big cardboard cut out. Like, you get, like, you know, a 4x10 sheet of plywood. And they kind of cut out the outline, like a big stencil of the Sasquatch. Then they paint it black or brown and they screw it onto trees.

You know, I see it all over Oregon. At the beginning of his driveway to go up to Pete's place, he had one on each side of the driveway since before, like, when I just started. and it said, you know, keep out, beware, I'm watching, you know, all that stuff. But that wasn't a big thing because everybody in Southern Oregon has some kind of Sasquatch something, you know, and then thinking back to it, I do remember him a couple of times talking like, yeah, well, be careful with it. You know, if I'd be leaving kind of later.

Be careful when you're in the saskwatch out in those woods and, you know, little quotes and stuff like that. But he never really told me specifically like, hey, I've seen. I seen a squash or I killed a squatch or anything like that. But it was kind of just kind of, you know, common knowledge or just spoken normally, you know, in that general area. So I never really overthunk it, you know. But then after they say this has to ask watch and all that, I started thinking back to like, yeah, he had a lot of Bigfoot stuff on his property. You know, little wind chimes with Bigfoot and just different little things, you know, Bigfoot sticker on the side of his old trailer.

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man, so many questions we will never get the answer to absolutely

never get the answer I bet Whiskey Pete has some wild

big foot encounters up there on that mountain my goodness that that is wild

it's like a wild west up man like everybody is this SSS you know

shoot shovel shut up up. And that could be everything from, you know, people sneaking on to the growth sites, getting caught in the gold mining clams. You know, they, they shoot you and they bury you. You know, it's like, there's common knowledge. Like, they never call the cops, you know, there's any palms, beasts between neighbors, hillside to hillside, you know. I rarely hear stories of anybody calling authorities for any problems that's going on there. You know,

they take care of everything themselves. So the fact that there's somebody buried there wasn't really too much of a shock to me, but the fact that they said it was giant and his skull was real huge and looked different. And then they said, oh, well, the guys mentioned the task watch. And they're like, oh, they all panicked and just started burying it, you know? That's so wild that they're like, yeah, they're like, nope, we're not in this at all. Barrier up. That is so crazy. Can you even, I mean, this is such an intense story. Can you even share what county it is? And then, well, we'll say It's, we'll say, like, near the border of Josephine County and Douglas County. Gotcha.

Man, it's, this is, I got, I got to look at it. Yeah, but I believe that because, because I, I, I'd never seen that man smoke a cigarette to eat. You know, I'd never seen the preacher, you know, pastor do anything of mind-altering anything in years of going up. there, you know. They'd even have little community get-togethers where they'd hang out and barbecue and everybody be sipping on shine or, you know, hanging out, you know, smoking and whatever. He never touched anything. And that time I went there, he was just belligerent, drunk, crying and all that. That's when I was like, man, this guy is serious, you know, something serious is going on after I had just left the other place that was torn up, you know, and I'm like, you know,

I was just believing, like, him word for word, you know, he doesn't seem to like he's never, seemed like a dishonest person in any sort, you know. And the worst part about all this is I heard from the next guy that took over that route. They'd sent one guy, he got lost everywhere, couldn't find any of the locations because they're real hard to find. So then they told me like, hey, you know, you want to do a ride along with the next guy that's going to take over the route. So you could show him the route. And I said, no, not really. I'm not going up there no more.

And so they found another guy that worked with the company that used. to do that route prior to me working there. They sent him up there. And when he came down the mountain, he was talking about that, yeah, the preacher committed suicide. I said, what? I said, I said, preacher? Like pastor? I was like, you know, the,

well, you know, whatever, it's the, you know, the yellow car and this, you know, like that guy. So yeah, he blew his head off shotgun. Nobody knows, nobody knows why. He blew his head off. He couldn't live with what he did. Man. Yeah.

And I remember him just telling me how he's going to hell for, you know, desecrating that man's body and not calling the authorities. And, you know, he was just crying and bawling. And I'm like, I could totally see him doing that just in a drunken stupor, just, you know, upset about what happened. And I could totally see that happening, you know, but I personally haven't been back up there since. but you know

that's what I heard is you know pastor you know opted out shall we say Arturo this is

it is without a doubt the most intense story I have heard in the last five years and

I don't even want to think of what's going to come from the comments on this one I mean I'm sure maybe other people know parts of this story that you didn't know because it happened later and man who knows where this is going to go next

but art our toro thank you uh for sharing what you've experienced over the years uh this is absolutely wild yeah i've been wanting to talk about with somebody for a long time and uh since i lived out here in southern oregon uh when we first moved out here we'd moved to uh grass pass Oregon right so we first first moved up here and uh they're like uh they have have these big caveman statues around town. Like the tow truck company is caveman towing and the high school football team or like the

caveman or whatever. Like all this caveman stuff, I'm like, is just just rubbing it in my face? You know, like when I moved away from SoCal I was just kind of trying to block it out of my mind forget about it. I'm seeing all this caveman stuff, right? And I'm still under the impression that, you know, Andre that I saw was some kind of caveman or some giant or

you know, something like that, right? And I see all this big foot stuff all time. I'm like, yeah, he's idiots believing in Bigfoot, right? So I'm like these idiots with their bigfoot stuff. But I'm seeing all this caveman stuff, but I would sit back at, you know, bonfires hanging out, you know, captain with the boys. And I heard people kind of talk a little little stories here and there about Bigfoot and all that. But, you know, me personally, you know, I still don't consider that I've seen a Bigfoot. I saw something else, you know. But out here, it's like Bigfoot's just common knowledge. Some people, you know, you know, nine out of ten would be like,

oh, that's a myth, and that's the greatest host of all time. It's just, you know, whatever. It's just see or say enough people. Everybody thinks it's true, you know. And then, like, when I had 10 people, like, yeah, they're real. Like, oh, my uncle had one at the back of his property, you know, and it's just, you know, common knowledge. Like, it's not a big deal.

But then, like, the other nine people you talk to are, like, you're ridiculous, you know. So I never mentioned to anybody what I saw in Southern California with the Andre jokes. I just didn't want to be ridiculed. Like, oh, you saw a cave man. no, you know. So I just never really mentioned it, but I just kind of listened to other people's stories and, you know. But out here, I've never seen nothing in Oregon. Personally, I've never seen nothing. Got you. Got you. Got it. Yeah. Things like that. But, yeah. So take it for what it is. But, you know,

the look in that man's face, I believe what he was telling me. You know, I think you made the right choice just walking away from all that. I don't think that would gotten any better for you just there's there's too much too much going up in on that area that is not not what you want to mess with for sure yeah i realize you meant gold makes people crazy yeah crazy for gold such a sad story but also such i mean it's it's it's wilder than most of the movies i've seen to be honest it's it's an incredibly intense our two Toro, thank you so much for coming on the show and for sharing what you've experienced over the years. I greatly appreciate it.

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