Bigfoot Society - In Memoriam of Scot Violette (and Call-In Encounters)

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

GO FUND ME TO HELP SCOT'S WIFE, HANNAH GET BACK ON HER FEET HERE - https://www.gofundme.com/f/nehemiah-3-many-hands-make-light-workWhat happens when a man trained to decode ancient rock art discovers that the symbols aren’t just history — they’re warnings?In this moving memorial episode, we revisit the life and field research of Scott Violette, Native American cultural anthropologist, Desert Storm veteran, and founder of Squatch America. Traveling across the country with his wife Hannah, Scott spent years uncovering the hidden connection between ancient pictographs and modern Bigfoot encounters.From the Blue Mountains to Wendigo Pass, Scott documented tribal stories that described Sasquatch not just as legend, but as living kin — sometimes a teacher, sometimes a killer. You’ll hear about the time he tested their intelligence by leaving puzzles and toys in the forest — and returned to find 500-pound rocks rearranged in response.And after Scott’s story, listeners share their own encounters — truckers, veterans, and wilderness workers who say they’ve seen what the rest of the world denies.A heartfelt tribute to one man’s search for the truth — and the mystery he left behind.In this episode, Scot recounts his experiences from investigating sightings in the Blue Mountains of Oregon, where he encountered Bigfoot firsthand near Marble Creek. Discover how his studies of Native American pictographs have revealed ancient depictions of Bigfoot. Scot also shares his theory about Bigfoot as an older version of humans, and discusses the remarkable vocal abilities these creatures may possess, including infrasound. Hear about his travels across the U.S., from capturing reports in Texas to investigating hotspots near Crater Lake and Wendigo Pass in Oregon. Learn valuable tips for aspiring Bigfoot researchers and how Scot's unique, community-engaging approach, like holding Bigfoot town halls, helps gather vital information. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, Scot's stories and insights will leave you captivated and curious.Resources:https://www.youtube.com/@SquatchAmericaSee Scot's Bigfoot finds here - https://squatchamerica.com/unique-bigfoot-finds-from-squatch-america/Scot's video on his pictograph find - https://www.youtube.com/live/nFLm4qRWVOUMore information on the Tule River Pictographs (with photos) - https://www.isu.edu/media/libraries/rhi/research-papers/Mayak-Datat-Hairy-Man-Pictographs-1.pdf🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible, from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it, so settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us.

Today we're doing a special episode in memoriam for Mr. Scott Violet, who passed away suddenly, very recently. This episode was recorded back episode 715. I never got to meet Scott in person in real life, but I was able to talk with him, as I've talked to many others over the internet. Scott was a guy that I learned a ton from just in the hour we were able to talk together. In my opinion, he had years left of research that could have happened, and he's gone far too soon, and it was a real tragedy. Scott, this one's for you. I'll also have the link to his wife, Hannah's GoFundMe, that is currently active.

and if you can donate to that, please, as it helps her get back on her feet. If you can donate anything, I know that she would greatly appreciate it, and Scott would greatly appreciate it as well. But thank you again for listening. And again, this episode is in remembrance of Scott Violet. You've got the privilege of talking to Mr. Scott Violet today. You may know him from the group Squatch America. I'm going to read a few things about Scott.

He was nice enough to provide here. He's a Native American cultural anthropologists and the founder of Squatch America, which is a National Bigfoot Research Group. He's a Desert Storm Army veteran and travels the U.S. full-time in an RV with his wife, Hannah, investigating cryptic sightings and exploring Native American rock art related to Bigfoot lore. Of course, they have their YouTube channel, which we'll probably talk about later, and it's a mix of science history and hands-on research. Welcome to the show, Scott.

How's it going, sir? It's going great. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. I do like to start out when I have interviews with individuals such as yourself that are really have been into it for a while. I always like to know what was it that first got you into the Sasquatch community. It goes back quite a ways, actually.

I was actually born in Eastern Oregon. and I grew up in the Blue Mountains, which is heavily trafficked by Bigfoot and Bigfoot enthusiasts. I don't know if people are familiar with the Freeman film from the early 90s. I grew up 15 miles from where that film was taken. Bigfoot folklore was pretty common in the area I grew up in. But as a teenager, I really didn't pay too much attention to it. I thought, oh, that's cool. But later on in life, after I became a Native American culture anthropologist

and started working with tribes all over the nation, I started to notice a common theme. Every tribe of the nation has a name for these things, and they all have legends and stories and history. And particularly, my expertise in Native American culture is pictographs. I learned how to read them all four different languages of them. And when I started finding stories about Bigfoot on rocks that are hundreds of years old, that started to peak my interest a little bit.

So after I retired, I thought, you know what, I'm going to look into this Bigfoot legend a little bit closer. And as I started looking into it and I set up a Facebook page to try to get stories from people locally, as soon as I did that, I got hundreds and hundreds of stories from people in the area. And I'm like, wow, there's a lot more to this than I originally thought. And then I started delving in and I got hooked. So I've been there ever since.

That's awesome. In this whole subject, it does not. I don't think it takes much to hook you. If it gets you just right, you're in it for the long haul. So you made a local group in the, that was local to the Blue Mountain area, you were saying? Yeah. Wow. Yes, I did.

You've got hundreds of that. You must have gotten some really wild stuff from that area. Oh, yeah. And we still do today. we still get people telling us stories and finding things. It's amazing. So do you think that area is definitely a active hotspot in the Blue Mountains current day? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

We find footprints in that area almost every year. What a lot of people don't realize about the Blue Mountains of Eastern Oregon, it has, what is it, 26,000 square miles of forest that nobody lives in. that's a plus but the upper end of the Blue Mountain Range runs into Idaho and into Montana

and connects with the Rocky Mountains and then the southern part goes south through the Ocichico Mountains and connects with the Cascades which goes south into Northern California and then into the Sierra's it's a natural corridor

between the two mountain ranges so I think if they do migrate or move from time to time, this is the corridor they take. We're basically a hallway to get from the Rockies to the Cascades. And so there is a lot of activity there. And I think as they move, it's where we're finding Bigfoot in that area all the time. That actually, that just opened my mind to a way I have not looked at the map before. And yeah, no, it totally could, yeah, It's a corridor from the Rockies. That's amazing.

How does one become a Native American cultural anthropologist? Lots of college and bills. Student loans. Let's count student loans. Basically, what I originally went into college and I had, first I had a career in the military. And then when I got out, I used my GI bill to pay for it. So that helped a lot. But what got me interested in it is I had originally,

had went into college, just don't go into anthropology in general. And I didn't really have a direction in anthropology. It's a huge field, and there's a lot of directions you can go in it. But luckily, the college I went to, the professor there, was really into the Native American side of things. And our college actually had an archaeological day on a Native American village. That was 200 years old that we were sifting through. And it was part of our project every year to go work on this. And when I started seeing the pictographs and stuff in the area, I thought, wow, that is really cool.

I really love the depictions. Plus, my professor was also into Egyptian folklore. So we actually had a whole course we had to do on Egyptian pictographs and stories. In fact, at the end of the year, one of our finals was, all you have to do is write your name on a piece of paper and turn it in. And if I can read your name in Egyptian hieroglyphics, you pass. So we actually had to learn that detail of Egyptian language. So when I started comparing that to the Native American language unlocks,

I started discovering that, oh, this is easier to read. it was. A lot of the 90% of Native American pictographs are basically directions. Go up this mountain, there's deer, the rivers to the south, stuff like that. And when I started reading those, I'm like, oh, this is really cool. So I said, I want to learn this language. So that's what I got into it. To get your degree, you just start taking classes, I guess, I have to say, and then you'll find the direction in anthropology you'll like to go. Has there been an example of a pictograph that you've been able to see over the years that you feel is just a really good example of a Sasquatch pictograph? Yeah, I've got three of them, actually, that I've found over the years.

Well, four technically, but one of them is a secret deal, and the tribe doesn't want it to be revealed. So I don't talk about that one too much, but there's a famous one that was originally found years ago in California and Porterville. there's a life-size, a foot tall, pictograph of a big foot family, and it tells a story. And what's really interesting about that one is a lot of people's talked about that pictograph for a long time, but when I started looking at it, I noticed something I don't think anybody else had noticed. There's two symbols on the bottom of the pictograph. There's like a story of a hunting party, hunting animals, deer near a spring. and they found footprints near the spring

and they had an encounter with a bigfoot family, mother, father, and baby. But down at the bottom of it, it said the hunting party, it had symbols of an ancient weapon called an at-lisle. And those at-lottal symbols are very interesting because the tribe in that area have actually stopped using or transitioned to using boats

from atlattle. Atlattles are like a spear trucking device. And they had transition to using bows almost 2,500 to 3,000 years ago. So if this picture graph still had atlottles on it, that dates it a little bit. So I can say that's possibly 2,500 to 3,000 years old picture of a Bigfoot. It's probably the first one we've ever seen. And then I found two more with the exact same symbols on it and the symbol for a big foot is a creature with short legs long body long arms but the arms are always you see it like out from the shoulders with the arms hanging down from the elbows and that that is to symbolize the size of this thing and say it's big it's like this wide it's huge and then they never have a neck and it's in the head you know is roundish on top but there's always a kind of a

V from the head, which shows there's no neck, and which looks like what Bigfoot would look like to people today. They have a longer torso than we do, the long arms, the huge bodies. So this depiction showing short legs and long arms is telling you that it's not the same proportion as a human. So I have found three of them. There's two in Oregon that I have found, and two in California. The one I can't talk about is in California.

The three main one, three main ones are two in Oregon and one California. So I want to clarify something. When you say the Porterville pictographs, is that the same one as the Tully River? Yeah, that's it. Okay, perfect. Yeah, she's near the town. So you have actually, I didn't even think of that possibility. So you've actually found pictographs of Sasquatch yourself in your exploration.

Yeah, two. Oh, my goodness. I have. A lot of people walk by. pictographs and petroglyphs not even noticing that they're there a lot of times like moss on rocks will cover them up and things but if you know what to look for and i've been doing this for quite a few years i start noticing them almost immediately when i walk into places and yeah there's one in the blue mountains of eastern organ by the way that it has three symbols on it one of them's the bigfoot symbol one of them's a stickman symbol

and the stickman symbol I might add is on the same one as the Tully River one. They have stickman on it too. The stick man is a Native American danger symbol, basically. They don't even talk about them. If this is on a pictograph, it means danger. So it's got a big foot. It's got a pictograph of a stick man, and it has a pictograph of a circle with a line going into the top of the circle

and coming out the bottom of the circle, but not through the circle. And what that is a directional. symbol from Native American folklore. It's the, it means go up the trail, go around the valley, because it's right there pointing out a valley, go around the valley, don't go through the valley, danger Bigfoot. Basically is what that story says. This is absolutely fascinating. I think most people are probably familiar with the Tully River one, but I never thought of the possibility that there could be other forms of these same pictographs found in different areas. You're saying, the Blue Mountains of Oregon, then another area in Oregon, some unnamed areas in California.

California, yeah. Yep. Is the second Oregon, is that in a similar geographic part of Oregon or completely different geographic area of Oregon? It's in the southern part of the Blue Mountains down in the Ocichico Mountains, where it's a little more desertied there. It's still a mountain range, but it's more in the bad lands of Oregon. Oregon is the one we found there, which has, it's got a thousand symbols on this one rock. And it's basically telling a story. But what's really cool about that one is really caught my eye, and I thought this is the coolest part of this whole pictograph.

It has two rivers that come together, and it has two symbols of two different bears on there in different locations on the rivers. and then what it does is on one side it has a large depiction of a bear claw, a footprint of a bear. It has that symbol there, and then next to it, it has a symbol of a big foot track. So it literally points out the difference. We know the difference between the bear print and the big footprint.

And then on the other river, it has a depiction of, has the typical symbol of the bigfoot along the river with deer there. So they saw Bigfoot hunting deer by this river. The other river on the other side of the fork is where there are a lot of bears. So beware. It's really interesting the story that one tells. Wow. This is absolutely blowing my mind right now. Oh, man. Are there even more instances of pictographs that have been found in Oregon as well that would continue? Sasquatch pictagrass in them?

Not that I know of. There's been some stuff like there's a bigfoot face that was carved on a rock that was found near the Columbia River, but that's the only other one that I know of. I'm sure there's probably many out there, but they're probably hidden in the woods somewhere and nobody's just run across them yet. Wow. Man, it feels. Do you have pictures of what you found?

Are these available on your website or YouTube channel at all? Yeah, they're on our website on Squatchamerica.com. we'll definitely have that linked in the show knows of fields. I'm probably just extremely late to this party is what it comes down to. Because I'm like, this is a really big deal, Scott. Scott's, I've known about this for a while. Yeah, yeah. This is cool.

I love this. Dude, this stuff gets me jazzed up. And, oh, yeah. Okay. So let's, how about this? Is there a catalyst event in your life that happened that really kick things off. It's like, all right, now I'm going to take an RV around the U.S. with my wife. And really, is there something that happened to you that really got you on board with all this?

Absolutely. There is. I had mentioned I started that Facebook page and started getting stories from people. And up until that point, I was probably after studying footprint casts, some of the famous ones from the past and some footprints that I had found, after studying those, And noticing the morphology in it because when you go through anthropology school, you know, you have to literally take a human body skeleton that's in a box and put it together and name every bone in it. So you get to learn how humans are made and how the history of human development and all that things. So looking into all this stuff, I was like probably 95% sure these things exist. I always had a little bit of doubt in the back of my head until June of 2018.

What had happened was we got five reports from five people that didn't know each other in the same area in the same week. And I'm like, that's where I need to be. So I was going out there. I had been out there for two days in a row. And I was going out for the third day. And if anything happened all the way to Bigfoot. My wife's, one of her friends, her dad was having a birthday, and his birthday, which was big footing because he'd never done it before.

So they contacted me and said, hey, can you take this guy out big footing with you tonight? And I'm like, it's his birthday. I'm sure, no problem. I'd never met the guy before that day. So he hopped in the truck with me. We drove up in the mountains, and we went hiking down this trail that I had checked out the prior two days because that's where all these reports were coming from. And hiking along the trail, I smelled the worst smell I've ever smelled in my life.

And I'm like, I've heard this described, but I've never experienced myself a wet dog garbage and onions and skunk altogether. It's a really bad, pungent smell. So we stopped. And I'm like, oh my gosh, where's that coming from? And we're looking around in circles in the woods, trying to figure out where this is coming from. So I probably did the dumbest thing on the planet because I was new to it back in the day.

So I just went, I growled off in the woods and it mimicked me exactly. And that's when I saw this little head 200 feet down the hill from me and this little tiny opening in the tree limbs swaying side by side and I'm like, oh my gosh, that's a big foot. And I got my camera up.

I got one blurry picture of it because that's the way it works. And then we heard a whistle off to our left, and it ducked into the woods and vanished. So I spent three days there. We went down to where it was at, and I found footprints where it was standing. I found nine-inch footprints and 16-inch footprints. and then so I did all my archaeological stuff I set my camera up on a tripod where I was holding it almost exactly and tried to get the exact spot shot a laser down through the trees figured out where it was standing from the footprints and where the laser hit the nine inch footprints was six foot tall but the 16 inch footprints behind it I thought there was another one that I didn't see until I went back and we got until later on even a couple years of

later, I got somebody who had the technology to really enhance the photo I had, and there was another face behind it, the adult. I can't tell you how tall that was because it was bent over looking up at us. So that's when I had a Native American, I told this story to a Native American elder, and he said, that's when Bigfoot stole your soul. Like, yeah, that's probably the case. So that was the pivotal moment when we decided to sell our house, buy an RV, hit the road. And up until then, I had this little group called Blue Mountain Bigfoot Research, and we turned it into Squatch America and hit the road nationally and started falling up on these stories ever since. Wow, that is fascinating. What do you think the phrase Bigfoot stole your soul means?

How do you take that? there's two different ways to take it in Native American cultures. One spiritually, like Bigfoot literally took my soul that day. And that's why I'm looking for him to get it back. That's been, you know, I like to lean towards that one. I need my soul back, Bigfoot. I've got to find you again. But another one is you just become obsessed with this to the point where you're going to give up everything and do it.

So, yeah, that's probably one of the, or the two meanings that I can probably take, that. It's extremely interesting. Is it possible to give a roundabout area, and this isn't something we talked about beforehand, but the area where the sighting took place, or is it an area where you give a nebulous region? Oh, no, I can tell you where it's at. It's, if you go to the Blue Mountains, there's a little town in eastern Oregon called Baker City, Oregon. And behind Baker City, Oregon, there's a road that goes out of town. It's called Pocahontas Road. and it goes up to this place called Marble Creek, and that's where I had my sighting.

Now, that's Marble Creek Road goes over top of the Blue Mountains, over the mountain to the other side of the hill where this little town called Sumter is. Now, this area here is, it's called the Alps of Oregon. The highest peak is 10,000 feet. It's not an easy drive. You've got to have a four-wheel drive to get up over this mountain. So it's about halfway up on the Baker City,

of the mountain. It's where I had my siding. But it was also in a watershed area where you're not supposed to be. Same as the Freeman film back in the 90s was in the watershed area where people weren't supposed to be. I was walking the edge of it.

I was legal. So I wasn't in the watershed area. So this area, and it was above 5,000 feet. So one of the interesting things I found over the years when you're getting reports of Bigfoot, especially in the Blue Mountains and in the Cascades also.

Most of the sightings are over 5,000 feet. That must be a line they draw. They live above that, probably because not many people go above that. Yeah, so that's where it's at. It's in eastern Oregon, in the Alps of Oregon, outside of Baker City. Remembering what you saw that day, would you describe it as something that was more ape-like and facial features or maybe more human-like? something completely different. I totally would lean toward more human.

It looked more like a person than it did an ape. Having, you know, my background, I can, let's go into what I think these are. Absolutely, yeah. This is my working theory. Granted is a theory. But from what I saw, if I had to picture what the skull look like underneath the skin, because I've seen lots of humanoid creatures, skulls over the years. I would lean toward this is human, and I'll tell you why in a sec,

this is human, it's just an older version of us that hasn't went extinct. And this is why. And there's not this missing link that everybody says they're looking for. If we go back into human history, it wasn't one thing turning into the other, turning and the other turning the other, that's not how it worked. And we know that through DNA, even today, now that really emphasized this theory, that say humans started somewhere, there's always been a human, and no, we did not evolve from apes.

In fact, there's a theory today that maybe apes evolved from us, not the other way around. But there was always a human back in history somewhere that started, and they adapted. So if you think about a group of humans in Africa three million years ago, As their population grew, the area they lived in couldn't sustain them. So this group moved over here, and then they moved again, and then they moved again over millions of years. By the time they got into Europe, their bodies have changed because they're in a different type of forest, different climate. They had to adapt. So their bodies changed over thousands of years.

but they're the same people that started in Africa, if you look at it that way. They just look different. So at any given time in human history, there's been five to six types of humans that live together at the same time. We're homo sapiens. But did you know we overlapped homo sapiens with homo Florinciensis, which is actually newer than us? Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo erectus, Homo Nidali,

and Homo Neanderthal. There's six that overlapped with us that were still alive while we were alive. And here's a big shocker. Did you know that Neanderthals are still alive?

That I did. I know they've been able to find individual, well, this is what I've heard, individuals with pieces of Neanderthal DNA. I think that's real.

Yeah. Yeah, that is absolutely real. Okay. That is absolutely real. So Neanderthals came from France, and they came from the Acadian region of France. So they didn't go extinct. The French people bred them out. They're actually, we're talking back in the paleo times, but they are us.

They are in us. So if you're French and you're from the Acadian region of France, which I am, actually, 5% of my DNA is Nandatoll. And if you want to know Acadians, when they migrated to the United States in the 1600s, and they're the French-speaking people in Maine and Nova Scotia and Canada. And then some of them migrated around the horn and landed in Louisiana, and the word Acadian got changed to Cajun. So if you wonder why Cadians are a little off,

is because they're a park caveman. I'm Acadian French. My dad is full-blooded. I'm half Acadian-French, Cajun. So we bred them out. So they're still alive. So why is today any different

than it has been for the last three or four hundred thousand years? We've always lived together with another type of human, another adaptation of us. So why is today any different? I believe that these things are us. they are a human, an older version, or maybe even a newer version, it could be that too,

but I'd lean towards an older version of us that hasn't had to change or adapt because they're fine the way they are and have been that way for thousands of years. Okay, so this is very interesting. I'm going to go down this road with you. So it's fascinating. So in that case, then, so let's say you get these. reports of things like infrasound and really interesting things. Is that saying then that maybe we forgot how to do these things? Or we lost it over the years. Yeah.

So here's something very interesting. We get into the infrasound and the whistles and stuff. I have recorded whistles. I've got a recorded, whoops that I have recorded. And one of the really cool things I did is I took a little bit different path. My wife has a, her degree is in music, and she was a choir teacher and a vocalist and a voice coach. And her college professor, same, but with a doctorate, is into choir and singing and stuff.

And I played these whooping sounds for him. And he about fell out of the seat. He goes, oh my gosh, I hear something that you probably don't because you don't do this every day. He goes, these sounds are in five octaves, and humans can only do three. I'm like, okay, so we threw it in a spectrograph, took a look at it. Yes, they are in five octaves. What that means is they have one more fold in their vocal cords than we do. We have two, they have three.

And so they have a higher and lower range of sounds they can make. Okay, wow. So when I was talking to the college, so when I was talking to the college professor about this, He goes, humans, some people are still born with those, but typically we lost them over the years when we started becoming civilized and didn't need to make those sounds anymore. So humans did at one time have the three vocal folds. So we have lost them because we don't need them anymore. We don't need our appendix anymore over the years when we started become civilized and started doing agriculture and not hunting and gathering anymore. I wonder if this almost explains how sometimes you have witnesses that say it sounded like it was this and this at the same time.

Exactly. Oh, man, this is blowing my mind. This is awesome, dude. Wow, wow. I can't remember where, but I have heard someone else mention the double fold. You said double fold in the vocal cords, right? Yeah, they have three folds. Three, yeah, yeah, three.

So trifold. Wow, that's wild. Man, I'm going to be thinking about that for a while. So just add to that a little bit, that's why I don't go in the woods and whip at night. Ah. Because they know we're human. We can't reach the octaves they do.

They're like, oh, that's a person. Oh, that's even crazier, dude. So, yeah, like what? So using that theory, when we do, who whoops, we are, it's even more of a giveaway than using it's probably very similar. Yeah, we're here. Oh, that's crazy. Unless you're playing an actual recording of a Bigfoot, then you can get away with it. That's it. Yep. So how does

how do the reports of Infrasound play into this theory then? I think they do have Improsound because they have the ability to do it. I meant they're not the only creatures on the planet that does that elephants, lions, tigers. There's a whole plethora of animals that have this ability. They use it as a, I don't know, I was to put it as a weapon because the reason tigers can do it or use it is that if you can growl so low that what you're growling at can't hear it, but they feel it. It actually shakes them to the core. You can put an animal into

fight or flight or shock. So if you put something into a shock, it's going to be stunned for a moment. That gives me time to grab it. That's why tigers do it. It'll put their prey in kind of a shock mode

where it just stands there and doesn't know what to do. And that gives the tiger more time and ability to jump on it. It may be a leftover, just hunting tactic that they use. Have you ever experienced that yourself? Me personally, no. Not that I can recall.

I don't know if I felt kind of eerie times in the woods. That could possibly be it, but I can't quit that. Because I just recently got a recorder that it records infrasound so we can see if I start feeling weird in the woods. I can record it and see, yeah, is there infrasound happening now? But personally, no, I can't say I have had an instance that did that.

Now, I've had screams at night that are so loud and terrifying that it made the coyotes shut up. So that's a different thing, but no, I haven't had the infrasound that I can recall. Was that in the Blue Mountains that you experienced that? Absolutely. Okay. Wow. I've experienced that out in Lane County near Oak Ridge, where it was like a screen. slash roar thing

would really freak me out dude yeah that's is weird I'd love to hear it again though but it was freaky as I'll get out three o'clock in the afternoon

yeah that area is weird so walk me through when you are driving around the US in your RV with your wife for Squatch America what is your mission when you're assuming

you're going probably to different towns Maybe you have, you're going to different hotspots. I guess I really don't know. Yeah, we tend to go to where there's like different hotspots across the United States. But the thing about what we do is a little bit different. My truck has our logo all over the side of it and it says Bigfoot research team and it's really audacious and stands out. And there's a reason I do that is because we can't stop at a gas station without getting a Bigfoot report from somebody.

Is that the gas station gas enough? or go to the grocery store. We'll come out of the grocery store. There'll be two people standing next to our truck ready to tell us their Bigfoot stories. So that's what we use when we go into different areas. We belong to this like campground system thing that we bought into. It's called Thousand Trails and they have 200 campgrounds across the United States. So we can stay three weeks out of time at each one of these and that's what we do.

We go park the trailer, spend the first week getting Bigfoot reports from people around the area and then we spend the next couple weeks our truck also has a tent on the top it's an overlander so we'll leave the camp we'll leave the trailer in the campground and then we'll just go off into the woods and spend two or three days at a time following up on the reports we get in the area that's awesome what is the craziest let's say you're just driving to an area and you just all of a sudden you find yourself in the middle of this like big foot mystery there's tons of reports and you're like, wow, things are just clicking. Have you ever experienced anything like that in a certain area? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We ran across in a couple different times. Crazy enough,

it's where we're out right now. We tend to follow up on Bigfoot reports in Texas in the wintertime because it's nice here. It's 72 today. Growing up in Eastern Oregon, I'm done with winter. But so we had that happened to us down here. We stopped at this little area outside of a place of Whitney, Texas. And I wouldn't, I didn't think that would be, there was some Bigfoot reports like on the Bigfoot mapping project and the BFRO site in that area. But when we got there, oh, my gosh, as soon as the community knew we were there, I meant the guy from the newspaper called us, asked us to come down and do a story.

they posted in a newspaper. We got tons of report from this one area. And so we went to this campground there. Believe it or not, it's kind of weird. Texas doesn't have a lot of national forests. Everything here's like almost private. But we did happen to find a guy who said, yeah, come camp on my land. I've got to see Bigfoot all the time.

And so I went and camped on this guy's ranch, which are thousands of acres. And lo and behold, we found. footprints down by the creek it's kind of weird so that was one that really stood out and another one is close if you're in the cascades there there's another time we went camping near crater lake and we had fire crews stop when they saw the truck stop hey we heard this last night we had another guy saying oh yeah i hear them every night go up this road which led us into something we've been actively doing for four years now. I try to spend part of my summer up there is that we found a spot.

This one, I'm not going to give you quite details, but if you know where Diamond Lake is, it's in that area, there's a road. I'll even give you the road. It's called, oh my gosh, it just went out of my head. Oh, my gosh. Anyway, maybe I'm not supposed to tell you that. There you go. When to go past.

That's what it's called. When to go past. Yeah. Oh, geez. Believe it or not. Yeah. So in this area, four years ago, after everybody's talking about this, we found this little pond, I'm not going to tell you where this is that, but we hiked up to this little

pond, and the only way in it is hiking. And we found three sets of footprints. We found 13-inch prints, 9-inch prints, and 6-inch prints. and we've this is something I'm really going to when I do my when I speak at a lot of big foot festivals and it's one of the things we talk about big vessels but so that was four years ago and we go back to the same area every year we found tree structures we've had a long distance siding of one up on top of the mountain we since then I've found 21 inch print so we've got mom dad and two kids and we found

We found our little guy again last year. We found his footprints near a different pond up there. And he's went from his six-inch prints to 10-inch prints in four years. And we've been doing also some off-the-cuff things. We've been putting out puzzles in the woods for them. We'll stack rocks like in a pyramid or we'll actually use those kids' toys with the little round donut-look things and you stack them up on the stick and they form a pyramid. we put those in the woods that's actually a cognitive test by the way

so we've been putting those out in the woods and sacking the rocks up they have been playing with them they've been rearranging them in a way that it's intelligently done it's not just deer knocking it over whatever so after we did that for a couple of years when we went back into that area we started finding rocks put on logs for us and arranged 500 pound rocks that we couldn't rearrange So they're playing with. We're teaching them. I don't know what's going on with that.

But that's an area that we've been, it's been a hotspot for us for four years now. And that's one of our major research areas. Scott, oddly enough, so this show gets some weird electrical stuff. And sometimes the voice modulation, it almost sounds. And right when you started talking about moving huge rocks and stuff, Yeah.

It's like every time I'm like, I don't even, I don't know if this is the government or it's Bigfoot messing with my stuff. Oh, it's wild. But that's not surprising at all. I take a lot of reports from north of 58 in that area like going west over to Oak Ridge and Dexter and that whole area is just bonkers. The word windigo in Native American terms is a bad thing. It's not a good thing.

That's pretty interesting. And it's interesting that I've interviewed like 75 tribes and I got the names for these things. And it's weird that half the tribes is almost a 50-50 split. Half the tribes call them like benevolent brother, Harry Mann, the other people, stuff like that. But the other half call them like windegos or monsters, killers, cannibals. So I think there's good big foot and there's bad bigfoot. It's like they're good people and there's bad people. Have you found tribes where they call them?

both or it seems to be a one or the other type thing? It seems to be a one or the other type thing. And it's primarily the southern tribes are the ones that have the bad words for them. Oh. The one like in New Mexico and in Texas here in Louisiana and down in Florida, their names for them tend to be. I wonder if the southern Bigfoot are just meaner. I don't know.

going by the reports that I hear, I don't know, I feel like it might be a little bit more aggressive down there, but that's a discussion in itself. Do you ever go out in the Midwest, like Iowa, Nebraska, that part of the country at all? Yeah. Actually, there's the Omaha tribe in Nebraska is they have a really interesting relationship with Bigfoot there. And in fact, they look to Bigfoot in that area as a almost a shaman. And it's interesting. The tribal elders and like the medicine woman tells stories that they will take whatever plants that are ripening in whatever season, they'll take those and they'll go into the woods and they'll lay them out on a rock and then they'll wait a few days.

So go back and then something will have removed some of them from the rock and left some of them there. And that's the stuff that works good for the medicines they need during that season. That's really interesting. And that's north of Omaha, like where it's referred to as Satanga. Is that the same area? Yep, absolutely. Okay. That's it.

Gotcha. Yep. Have you ever gotten anything directly from Iowa? I haven't. Okay. We haven't spent a lot of time there either. So we don't have a lot going on. We have a little bit of weird stuff, but not a lot.

So that's, I can understand why you wouldn't. I have seen in the past where you guys will do Bigfoot town halls. Is that right? Yes, we do. We do that as often as we can, wherever we get into an area. And we can hook up with somebody to set up a place and time and all that stuff. But yeah, we do that quite often. And that's where we're getting a lot of insight reports from people in the areas that we're going to be in.

Can you take a few minutes to talk about what it takes to set up a Bigfoot Town Hall or any advice that you have towards that? Actually, it's a lot easier than I had originally thought it would be. They said, you need a little time to advertise it. And we try to set it. Like I said, we can spend three leaks in places. So what we try to do is get it set up immediately when we get somewhere. or if we can set it up a month or two ahead to get an idea. But basically, we just find places that have meeting rooms.

A lot of times there are bars, pizza parlors, a place like that, to have these rooms in the back for meetings and things. And we'll rent the space or whatever to do that. And then we'll try to advertise it in the local newspapers, on the local Facebook pages and things like that, and let people know that we're going to do that. to be there and then if we can we'll stick up a banner on the building if they let us saying when it's going to happen and we've had crazy results it's a hit and miss i can say that

but we've had one time we were we set up one in a little town called cave junction organ and we're expecting maybe 60 70 people to show up we had 280 show up it was crazy and then yeah the pizza father ran out of pizza that night they were really thinking us but it's really not a lot to it and then but the most important thing the hard thing to do is once you have the meetings is to get people to document stuff we'll have a map of the area will throw up on a table up front when people tell us their stories we ask them if they can come up and mark it on the map which really helps us a lot and then recording it we set up a video recorder and some

audio recorders so we can get some good audio because I have when I first started doing these I totally spaced that part and I thought they'll come in they'll fill out this sheet for me they won't but if I can get them on video I can remember the stories that way okay so that I think is a really I think that yeah that's a very good piece of advice there because I found that with when I did a festival in Oak Ridge in July, it was overwhelming. I talked to people about their encounters for probably 24 hours in three days. It was nuts. I loved it, but you're writing stuff down on a map, but then if I had been able to have people record their story, yeah, that would have been very effective.

Are these just for your personal archives, I would imagine then? Yeah, we have a database that we put stuff in that helps us to track these things. One of the interesting things about the information we get from it, and one of the things I use it for is if you got, I always try to get dates in at least months. That's the important thing. Because after doing this, we're on our fifth or six year doing this full time, is I put a lot of pins and maps.

But if you've got the dates on me, I've noticed that, hey, this area is hot in March every three years. This area is hot in June every other year. And that kind of gives me something to go on. If we're going to go research an area, I want to make sure it's when they're there. That's interesting. You could almost figure out like migration times and stuff. Yep. Wow.

Yeah. I'm still not sure about the migration thing. I think they stay within almost like a 200-mile area. I think they basically rotate crops. They're in like this part of it for one year, and then next year they'll be over here, and then next year they'll be over there, and then they'll come back to this three years later.

Do you have any criteria that need to be met in order for you to focus on a certain area, spend three weeks there, and try to set up a town hall. Yeah, one of them is mostly if it's going to be in an area that there is past activity. I can look on the BFRO site. I'm not going to go to counties that never had a Bigfoot report ever, like down in the deserts. In Arizona, there's not a lot of activity there, so that's places we don't go. But I like to go to Dr. Jeff Meldrum has a theory that there's three Bigfoot and any 20 square miles of black bear habitat.

So I kind of lean on that a little bit. So any areas that have black bears are generally bigfoot areas, the same habitat. So we tend to try to lean towards staying in areas that there are black bears. That makes a ton of sense. Out of the 200 and so people that showed up at Cave Junction, how many, what's the percentage would you say of people there actually had an encounter to report? Oh gosh, I would say at least half of them. And probably I would say I would delete about 20% of those because some of them are like fairly outlandish.

I look for things that have commonality in Bigfoot reports like the smell, the hair, the way the face looked. Are there things, though, that you'll hear in a witness report that'll make you be like what I'm hearing right now? Yeah, absolutely. Like I said before, some of the commonalities. but the other ones is kind of really weird is watch their face in their arms. If they start getting goosebumps and their hair stands up a little bit and they started a little shaking in their voice, they had seen something that changes their life and it still affects them today. So those ones I really take close attention to.

This is something that I'm trying to work through myself when I talk to people face-to-face like you're talking about. How do you handle? Sometimes when you talk to a witness, they can get back into that emotional state. And it can really affect them. And it's like, how long do I want this person to be back in that state for? I've experienced a few and I was really taken back by it. This is way different than talking to someone over a phone. Yeah, that's an interesting question.

And I'm not really good at it. But luckily, my wife is a licensed psychologist. Oh, well, there you go, man. Yeah. And she's really good at forensic interviewing and things like that. So when they start getting really shaky, and she takes over for me,

and she kind of knows the limits. I don't want to put somebody through PTSD from doing this, but it helps to reassure them that you're here for them and that they're safe now and stuff like that. Scott, it's been such a fascinating conversation with you. I do have one, another question for you here at the end. Okay. Let's say there's an individual and they're like, man, I really want to get out there and have a Bigfoot experience.

Do you have things that you recommend people maybe to lean towards if they're going to go out and try to have an experience themselves? Yeah, one, do your research? one of the biggest best tools that came out recently is the Bigfoot mapping project. It's an app you can download. Look on that and find the area

that you want to go to has sightings. And secondly, look at the months. I don't care if it happened 20 years ago or last month. Look at the months. And that's where you want to go. And one of the other things that has worked

extremely well for us is to go camping. I don't go knock on trees. I go walking in the woods at night. We just go camping and make a spectacle of yourself. You're not going to hunt down a big foot. You're not going to chase it down in the woods. Camel don't work.

But if you get them curious enough to come see you, if they're curious, they want to check out the funny-looking human people. So that's one of the things I do. I just go camping. That's great advice. I just remembered one that I forgot. I apologize. This is for the last one.

How do you record infrasound? There's actually a recorders that will record it. Really? In fact, there's even an app you can get for your phone and infrasound recorder. The microphones will pick it up. Your ears won't. But it'll show you on a spectrograph.

I can even download the app. It works fine. It'll show you on a spectrograph the infrasound that you're normal. hearing. Okay, so it's easy as that, just to start Googling on looking on Amazon and infrasound recorder, look at that apps and you'll, they're out there. Okay, that's cool. That's cool. All right. Scott, thank you so much for taking some time out of your day to share what you've experienced over the years and maybe listeners keep an eye out for their truck. You never know

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Scott, thank you so much for coming on the show. All right. Thank you, Jeremiah. Sean's wanting to come up. Let's talk to Sean. Listen, I was on a patrol as a police officer and it was a rural area. and I got a complaint

that there was some kind of noise in the background of these people's places and I get there shine the light around didn't see anything out of the ordinary so I decided to take the back road that goes behind that place

and they say when I've seen this around the corner it was tall and to me it looked blackish but it was I would say it'd be brown about eight and a half feet tall figure crossing the road and I never told anyone on this on the forest and everything you don't think I'm seeing stuff but this is up in the Poconos in Pennsylvania Oh yeah, definitely

Do you ever get out of here of a lot of sightings there? Let me look at my map real quick. I do have one individual back in 2002 his mother and mother-in-law reported seeing what looked like a large

hairy figure in the woods near their home that looked like a big gorilla. Let's make sense not to cut you off. It was in 2001 when I was working. Oh, wow. So that happened in 2001. Yeah. And I would say it was around fall time.

It's so hard perspective when the woods are dark. And usually when you shine the lights on the green trees, it's one thing. But you're shining your lighting on brown trees, the forest just looks totally different. Have you heard of other people having sightings like that in the same area? We had about, I think it was maybe about five complaints. Really? Yeah, that people heard this ruckus in the backyard and everything. There was one time the trash cans were touched.

But I never thought to go around again and start looking for footprints. someone said it was a bear at one of our complaints and there was broken branches in their backyard and like where the fines hanged down they were pushed the way out and snapped other than that I can't recall anything else this is about in 2001 I'm talking about oh yeah this long time ago yeah so when you guys would get those complaints at the police station, what would you guys just rush them off or what would you guys usually do? It would be a report that we put a non-reportable, okay, where it's just kept inside the station. Oh, okay.

A reportable stuff would be like a crime to happen or a car accident or something like that where you're reporting something to the state. So this is all in-house type thing. And we were just, because I served from 92 to 2002. And in the beginning, we didn't have computers in the cars or anything like that. I remember going on the computer as a floppy disk. I figured some of the data has been lost. I mean, you'd have to dig them up in the paperwork and everything.

Absolutely. And guys wouldn't talk about this to each other. One guy did talk about it. He did say what the complaint was and everything, but other than that, and it did it as a joke. But I took my sighting very seriously to myself. And I really did see something. Would you ever want to see what you saw that day again?

Oh, most definitely. Yeah. I never asked that question, but oh, of course. He became a believer right at that point in time. Absolutely. It's good to hear about another thing that happened in that area around the same time. People want to listen to that episode at 755 on my podcast, Bigfoot Society. but Sean, is this a conversation that I would be able to play on my Bigfoot podcast that I have?

Yeah, sure, bud. All right. Thank you for coming up, sir. I appreciate you sharing what you experienced that day. Okay, thank you. Hi there. How's it going? What's going well?

How's everything? Great. Are you coming up to share a Bigfoot story today? Yeah, I have several, but they joined together. Okay. As one big experience. So I was going through this time when I was in my late teens. I was breaking up with a girlfriend, considering breaking up with her because things weren't working out.

And so I used to pray a lot and take walks in the National Park that was close to my home. and matter of fact I used to take walks with my dog in the daytime and one day I went down to a certain facility on the other side of the National Park and

got hired with the state with the fits working with some type of treatment plant, some type of federal sting plant or something like that so I had that job and it was pretty cool job

but I still was going through things was contemplating my life and college and different things, but I still used to get up and take walks. I got to the point where I would walk in. Early morning, I saw it walk around 6 o'clock. It was still daylight, but it wasn't giving me the feeling I needed. It seemed like I needed something a little bit more. So I started walking a little bit earlier, like I wanted to catch the sun. Like on the end of my walk, I walked like 45 minutes through the National Park, make a round circle and come back out, going in two miles or so,

and come on back out. So I get up at 4.45, 4.4 o'clock, 445, so on over there. And I used to take walks, and I used to sing and pray to God, be saying my prayers and stuff like that, and walking and singing. And I used to have a lot of deer, a lot of deer and animals through that place.

And I got to the point where I used to walk through the park and the park would land. And they had a golf course on one section of it where FARC would be on the golf course. And I used to try to make that my last little section, middle section of walking through. I would walk through that part and come on back out. That would take me about 25 minutes to walk on the backside of the golf course. And I used to walk on that place. And deer used to be standing there.

I would walk right through the deer. They wouldn't, I guess they got used to me walking there in the middle of the night. when in the middle of night, four o'clock. And they just stand there, and I walk right past them. They just look at me like, oh, okay, who is this? What is this? I guess I was so at peace with myself because I'm humming, singing, and not loud, just to myself.

And I guess make my own songs up. And I used to hear this whistle. And I thought it was like the male deer that was whistling. And the dears are here. They're not, you know, saying. So it used to be a ridge where you go down, you can come down off the golf course, the top nine or something like that, and you come down. And the woods was right there. And when I heard this thing, something just went through the woods real fast.

Like I said, man, that's the biggest deer. I couldn't really see it, but I heard it. It was crashing through the trees. But the other deer at the plateau up there, they wouldn't move. And I was like, oh, I don't know what that is. I still used to walk through that place. but I started having these dreams and the dreams would coincide

when I walked through this place I see myself in a dream walking through the same place but I can see what's in the woodline I couldn't see what's in the woodline because I'm in the open plateau the golf course

and I see these it's almost like human lions they were like a pride and they used to just stand there and look at me. It was like someone would lounge like sideways like a man like you lay on the ground at picnic and they would just sit there and lay there and some would stand up and every time I walked through these place I would have these dreams again start having these dreams and it came a time when I went through that one night and right on the other side they had a train track that was that would run through that place.

some kind of way it swings around, come back to those companies on the other side of the National Park over there, the federal steam plant and water treatment, whatever. So this train used to deliver all types of chemicals and stuff like that, black, what they call it, black gold, there's some type of additive that you add to the water to make wastewater clean and some type of a coal that they used to produce with the black. The coal used to be grinded up to make the black gold. The black, what's called, the gold is in the potassium. that goes into the wastewater trip. So one particular night, as I was coming through there,

I came over the plateau and looking down, I could see on the other side of the track. The train had stopped, and six guys was out, and they had their flashlight. I'm walking over here. They couldn't really see me because I'm still in a dark. But this huge animal, they hit. The train had hit it, and it was laying out there,

and it didn't look like a bear. because I was, oh, man, you're trying here to bear. But the area of where I was working, while I was walking, didn't have bears, didn't have any. Even though some old man said, hey, man, they got bears out here. When I got that job, what's called, I said, walked to work. Even though I had two cars, I said meditate and kind of walk to work and get up at, be at work at seven, leave at six. And take me about 40 minutes to walk through on the other side, short cut, not through the whole national park, just a section of it. And they'll see me out there walking and it's scared everybody guys who are driving through.

There's no lights out there. They see me walking like, Matthew is he, man. What the heck you're doing out here? They'll try to give me a ride. I said, no, man, I'm just meditating and just walking through. They're like, man, well, you pick a heck of a place to walk. I said, well, they live right over here on this side. They said, you drive.

I see, I got two cars. You got bike, motorcycle, anybody. I just like to meditate and walk. So they said, tell me, when I go to work, I digressing, go to work, the old man, he used to see me. He said, man, I've been out here, 32 years working at this place, man. He said, I came in one of the mechanic shops, and he looked at me. He said, I came in with some new young men, and we all young, we about 19, some of a little bit older than me. We came in about four of us trying to get some parts and put on a certain tractor or something like that.

He said, hey, you. I said, hey, how you doing, sir? He's like, Matthews. He said, yeah, you're Matthews. I said, yeah, I'm Matthews. He said, this guy's walking through the park. In the middle of the night, man, you scare everybody. We're in cars.

And you're walking like, you're having a time of your life. And I just said, no, I'd just be meditating, man, thinking about a lot of stuff. He said, he must be breaking up with a girl. I like, oh, okay, that was part of it. Yeah, I said, yeah, we know people do strange things when they go on through that love thing. I see, yeah. And so he said, hey, man, you got to be careful here, man. We're down south, but hey, man, there's things out here that I can't really say.

there's wolves and I think there's bears because they look like bears. You know, like, he said, have you seen anything? I said, I hear stuff when I walk. He says, there's no lights out there on three, three miles of that, that place that you're walking. There's no street lights. Pitch black. Not a light to first.

You'll make, next light is when you get on the other side. I said, no. I said, that's the best part because I get reacquired and I can do my little meditation. I don't tell them all that, but I just thought, I said, yeah, it's real peaceful right there. So he said, you be careful now. because you know, you see things out here that if, you know, if he just tried to warn me.

So, come to find out, going back to the railroad track, I'm looking at this thing from the plateau. I'm on top of the plateau up there, looking down at the, these six guys with these flashlights, and this thing is stretched out, not like a bear, it's not round.

It's elongated, you know what I'm saying? It's pretty long. And it's long, long. It's not like a, it's not the shape. of a man that's a little longer, maybe about eight feet long. And I'm looking at it in the eyes and I don't want them to see me over here because I don't supposed to be in this part of the section of the park. When the thing is closed, they got a little gate that close, but it's just two two little rails that they just put together. And walkers or those who walk the

trails, they know people are walking trails through there sometimes. So they sometimes they are just a way that you can just walk under it or walk over or walk around it because they're not blocking anything. They don't have fences. around just got it right on the road where you're going to drive your car a lot of people leave the car outside that particular area going by the golf course so what have these dreams about these things and all of a sudden my nature changed and it's strange because it's up until this day my nature changed and a lot of times I couldn't figure out why. I used to walk my dog.

I had a German Shepherd, and I had a lap that I used to walk. Sometimes I take my walk, I walk by myself. I don't walk with the dogs because they distract me. But when I used to walk the dogs in the neighborhood, go through the neighborhood, all of a sudden, all the dogs would jump the fence, all of them, and follow me. I would just take maybe a 20-minute walk, and I have eight dogs that jump the fence and get behind me and just start following me.

And I was like, everybody looked at me like, hey man, are you letting these people dogs out there out the gate? I said, no, I'm just walking. I get to know them all. Sometimes I get to know their owners, but they see me walking and then they decided to take walk with me. It got worse. It was worse than that. So I had to take walks and all of a sudden some more dogs, some stray dogs came out the woods and would walk with me. And one particular dog was so jet black and had this coarse hair. I rubbed them. I'm like, man, why your fur feel? Don't feel like a dog's fur. But he had these yellow eyes. And he decided to walk home with me too with my dog. So this particular dog came to walk on with me. So he was, he wasn't full grown. He made about a year old.

Pretty jet black dog with these yellow eyes. And so I bring him home. My dogs are in the yard. my dogs are scared for some reason and my dogs are very aggressive and that and no my two dogs don't like each other at all so they would they like walking together they're friends but they like the rivals so in the yard they never sit by each other so i left them out in the yard it's nice warm weather down south so these two guys are look in the backyard they are hugged up to each other hugged up and so this particular dog is at my door and my sister is cooking like fried chicken and something like that at the door. She left glass screen door.

And this dog is looking through the door and his eyes are blowing. This is a wolf. She said, my fiancee at the time said, Hey man, why you bring a wolf home? You got a wolf following you. I like a wolf. They say, yeah, that's a wolf. I didn't really notice.

My mind is somewhere else. And I'm looking at the thing. And the thing, eyes is glowing with the light. My dog's eyes. going to go with the light. So I said, they said, man, you got to get this dog out of here. Your dogs are scared. Look at your dogs. They're scared of this thing. I'm like, okay, I don't know what that is. So I said, give me some of that, give me that chicken and something like that. I'm going to take him on back up the street and take him back to the woods

where he came out of. So I walked the dog on back up there. And I started having those experience all the time, animals will come out and just, let's come from me just walking through the woods at night. And I don't know what I encountered or whatever pass I got, I got. I got some kind of passed because I've seen a few of those things. They'd be huge, but I put it off because I said, nothing like that exists. You know what I'm saying? My mind wouldn't know that.

I would just see something, sometimes go through the woods and I fell to sleep one night at the park, and I woke up, I could have sworn there was a couple things around me because I was really going through a bad time. And they was all, like they were over, I was on a picnic table just laying down because I was crying about young men

sometimes cry. I've got to break up for this. girl. I fell asleep and when I woke up it was maybe 11 o'clock at night. Felt asleep at set. The park had closed around 8.30. And I woke up as 11 jet black. I was hearing these sounds almost like voices going through the garbage because they had these garbage bands where people coming picnic. I'm thinking in raccoons. I ain't paying no attention. My mind is some other things. So making gibberish sounds. Oh, man, these raccoons, let me get up and get out of here. What time is it? I can see my watch. My little Bible, whatever I had, book I was reading, and so I just walked on back up the hill.

But I could have sworn it was something around me on that table. I guess I was so sad at the time. My sadness wouldn't let me see what was around me. You know what I'm saying? But I noticed that animals, when I would walk, just straight animals, even wild animals, just come and follow me. Get right beside me. Where does raccoon come from? And they'll walk with me like my dog.

So I just, okay, to this day, I moved up north. I still have that experience that Allen will come and walk with me. So this one particular time, I was going to a baseball game, me and my wife, we rode out bikes up to the neighborhood of the street. And we got to this baseball park, and it was packed, neighborhood baseball. And we got off our backs as we were walking to the bleachers to sit down like in the middle. middle of everybody close to the ground. We didn't go up high. We sat down, but we walked past this female

duck, and this duck was like quacking. So we walked past her, and I walked on the end, and about 15 minutes later, this duck coming, came in, into the park, the baseball park, but, you know, where the bleachers are, and came up to me.

It's just quacking, quacking. I was like, and the people said, Do you understand what's going on with this duck? I said, yeah, she's looking for her babies. And I said, Mama? And she was like quacking, wow, wow, wow, it's talking to me. Like, she just got in my face.

Me and my wife, hey, and everybody says, look, okay, do you understand what she's saying? I said, yeah, her babies are gone. She had her babies around here, and she flew off or something scared her. So she wants us to go and help find her babies. So I said, okay, gone to eat away, Mama. And so when I said that, I got up, my wife got up, and three more people got up. And they walked with us.

And I said, where was the last place you had them? So she walked over there. She walked out the park. There's five of us walking with this duck. And she's walking. So make a long story short, the ducks that went under something, and we had to go in there and get them.

But then we walked back. They said, how do you understand duck? I said, I don't understand. Why did that duck come through the park and walk past 100 people and stop at you? I don't know. I don't know. I did experience when I came to Minnesota, I did run into another creature when I was getting off work.

The snow was like maybe on that particular night, it's snow so bad. And as I was driving down the road, it was like the snow was so deep that you can't walk. So when they have those, when they have those blisters up here, the sidewalks would be four feet with snow. And highways be worse than that because the snow plows would throw snow on the side of each street. So this particular night, I was getting off 1 o'clock working at engineering place, building surgical beds and surgical robots. Got a job working up to building that. So I'm looking and this thing comes across the street, but snow is already five feet deep. And it would be too deep for a dog or something like that.

This big animal, as I was on the ramp, came across the ramp. And he was diving, like, because the snow was so deep, he had to die. He had to put his whole stretch his whole body out. He did three stretches, and he was across three snow piles. And this thing was so huge, man. And I was telling me, I was telling my cold work, I said, y'all didn't see that? We all was leaving at the same time.

Y'all didn't see that big creature crossing the road like that? They're like, oh, no, they said, nothing can be walking out here, man. He says, no, the snow is five feet deep. And then he said, the snow plows, pals snow up on the road on the side of the road. up to seven feet. I said, yeah, I know. But this thing was diving. He'd know about four times. He was on the other side of the highway. And it was another little national park on that side, up here in Minnesota. I have plenty of experience. And at the particular time that I was down there, someone was telling me about, yeah, Bigfoot had got hit by a truck, a tractor trailer truck,

because he used to lay out there in the road. And all the truck drivers used to talk about it. And some of the drivers, people that I know, used to say, hey, y'all see their bear. out there on the road? I said, no, they said it's just in the story has it that it used to come out and lay on the road because the road was cool at night. I guess it was a particular animal that was sick or something like in the road used to be cooled and this animal was come and just lay out there on the cool of the warmth of the road. I don't know if the weather was damp. The woods were damp. Sometimes it's damp and they lay out there on their dry ground or wherever. And they said one of the truckers hit the thing. And when it hit the thing, that was the same time I was down there, I just crossed over.

And so it might have been the time that because they said this particular big foot, they got hit. The truck driver stopped because he thought he hit a person. And he jumped out his truck and went down to look at it. And we went down to look at it. He said that the thing was laying on his side or something like that. He got close to it and realized it wasn't a person. And he can't hit to come down the hill off the street. They got bluffs. They got bluffs down there where I was at. Bluffs, you were parked the truck up, come down the bluff, and then he's seen the thing down there in the sawgrass. And as he was looking at it with the flashlight, he's, buddy, you okay? And they realized it wasn't a person.

And all of a sudden, another one came out, which was huge and scared him off. And he saw it. He said, this thing was almost 12 feet tall. And he said, I picked it up. He said, the thing picked it up and ran off. Yelled at him and picked up the one that was hit and ran off toward the golf course. So I guess that might have been the one I saw because the train. the trains go so slow, there's no way in the world. The train would have hit that, would

hit that particular big foot. And I just said, those trains only go like five, ten miles per hour coming through here. So I said, what does that thing laying on the side of the golf course for it? So I calculated my time. I realized that was the same time that they said, that one got, you know, was hit by a truck. So I don't know, they laid it out there trying to get it help. I don't know if the thing needed. He wanted humans to help it or something like that and laid it out there where a train can see it or something like that. So I calculated the time. I said, oh, okay, that's the same time. And I used to walk through that National Park.

And they were telling me not to walk through there. Yeah, so it's a strange story. There's an Indian reservation over there, some of everything out there. And so to this day, I just sit out there and hear strange noises. But I never equated to anything because I didn't believe in Bigfoot. I didn't believe in Sasquatch. When you just have your antennas up and to be aware of what's around you. and that's the only place I used to see the, believe it or not, I don't tell nobody about it because they say it's rare, very rare.

I used to see the ivory-billed woodpecker because I just sit on those benches. I used to see them, those cedars out there and those pines out there. I used to see them all the time, and I thought they were a reciprocated woodpecker because they look alike until they fly off. One used to fly off, and you could see the whites on his back. and they're down there. I didn't tell nobody about it because they said, we're looking for that woodpecker. And I just, oh, okay, that's in such a secluded area.

No wonder they can't find that thing is up on a plateau. And those, if it is any, I see them come on land right on the trees and peck with that beak. But they would like to be a white beak and everything. And then when they fly, it looks strange from the back because it's almost like an insect, but because they got the white. They would fly real fast to the next tree, large. And a large tree and stuff like that. So there's a lot of stuff down there. I just don't tell you what National Park it is because I just want to be at peace for people. So I was actually going to ask you. So it sounds like we're not able to share what National Park it was that you saw the train hit the Bigfoot there.

Yeah, but I don't think I think that's the same animal there. So I think the other Bigfoot laid it out there for it can get some help. Because I just really train is a phoney five miles coming through that National Park. They can't go. too fast because of the, they got a station on the other side where they unload the trains and bring all those chemicals up to the steam plant and to the waste treatment on the other side, on the round the bend. So they kind of stop and unload the whatever and then take it on up around the bin and come, take it back up around about three or four miles and come back. They don't take the whole train, you know, 120 cars don't go all the way up. They kind of park it down at that station. down on the other side.

I can say what it is because it's with the Indian Reservation. Excuse me. And it's down there where Ian Musk is at right now. It's over there in Memphis down on the other side of the Arkansas

Memphis Bluff over there where the Allen steam plant and the water treatment that's very secluded. But it's a golf course and it's camping grounds out there. But very few people come on that back end because they put that steam plant.

out there, but it's very gorgeous out there. They got a golf course and everything out there, but I think they closed that off because people had started seeing the things, seeing the animals. So they closed their golf course off and tried to let their grass grow over. And I said, well, how do they close off? Yeah, they had to close it off. They didn't fence it off. They just say it's close.

Quite a few golfers started seeing them over there, and the reports were getting off, so they were trying to keep it where, I guess the animals can live in peace because there's probably part of the funding that goes with the National Park. They know certain animals are, certain creatures are there. So they'll shut down a beautiful golf course for the sake of keeping those things. And lots of deer, lots of turkey, lots of animals. So they had plenty to eat. A lot of water there too with a lot of fish, bass and bluegillol and stuff like that.

A lot of berries, wild raspberries and blueberries down there that was growing wild. The cinnamon, so tons of trees of the cinnamon. So I can see why the, if there were big foots there, they have, I see, two or three hundred the cinnamon trees in the fall. They get ripen around September or October, those besenamins, plenty of deer, plenty of turkey, plenty of fish.

I'd go back there and fish and catch a mess of fish. Now, I wouldn't take them all home, but there's times that I'll catch 200 fish. I'd let them go, most of them anyway. Quite a few beavers, a lot of cowoities. I was sitting on a tree one time. I was like this with my back turn on the ground. And here come a wolf.

And I said, that old man's telling the truth. It was a beautiful wolf man. He was darker color. I almost looked like a German Shepherd. He wasn't a German Shepherd. I was like, man, this is a German Shepherd. I realized a German Shepherd. Maybe about a one year old.

He was walking toward me. He didn't see me because I was still. He walked about five feet, about 10 feet in front of me. Then he just made a B-Line. He didn't run. He's just like, oh, no. human, but walked right back into the deep woods. I said, man, you're gorgeous, beautiful. I almost had a bluish color. I said, man, that old man's telling the truth about what's out here. And my wife and I

saw cougars. She said, I was driving around the back end when I was in the car. She said, man, you see that? I said, see what? She said, see a big yellow cat in the tree? I said, yalla cat. She said, it looked like a cougar. I said, oh, it probably is. I said, you know, cat just going clam up a pine tree like that or whatever it was clammy she it was just right there i like oh okay yeah there's something everything down there hey thanks for coming up is this a story i could share on the bigfoot podcast that i have yeah if you i mean if it's interested it doesn't seem like i have much to offer just my experience yeah but hey thanks for coming up man i appreciate it all right okay you have a good before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

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