Bigfoot Society - Is Bigfoot at Nellis AFB? | Nevada

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

This is an unlocked Patreon episode originally released 10/19/23.This episode of 'Bigfoot Society' features an electrifying conversation between host Jeremiah Byron and Chris, a Florida listener with a range of paranormal experiences. Chris dives into an unforgettable incident at Nellis Air Force Base, where a spine-chilling roar shook a Humvee and spooked military personnel, leading to whispers of 'shadow people'. Could it be the Catman cryptid or something else? Listen as Chris details this eerie event, alongside his own Bigfoot and werewolf sightings in Florida. Uncover the mysteries lurking in both the swamps and deserts in this must-hear episode!Resources: Chris's Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@C73Eternal🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members-only episode every single week. on Wednesdays and sometimes even more episodes head on over to patreon.com forward slash the bigfoot society and now let's get on with the show all right bigfoot society got the privilege of talking to a listener that contacted me his name is chris he's from florida how's it going tonight chris how you doing jeremiah thank you so much for having me on the show it's an honor thank you thank you sir you reached out via email and you had some really interesting things happen over the years. You grew up in New York City, it sounds like. Yes, sir. And then you

moved down to central Florida in the late 80s, and then I'll let you kind of take over from there. Okay, so, I mean, I'm originally from New York City. So I come from what they call the concrete jungle and a little bit of a backstory because I think a lot of this stuff correlates. although you have a show about, you know, specifically Bigfoot, it's under the umbrella of the paranormal. So since I was a kid, I've always had experiences even up until this day. So it's something that's always following me. I never asked for any of these situations. These things just happened to me and I haven't had any answers.

So I grew up in New York City. My upbringing wasn't the greatest. I won't go into any detail that, you know, could figure out your own. own. And so around 1989, I'm about to head into high school. We were moving to Florida. So we weren't really too happy with that.

I already had, like, in my mind, my own plans of what I wanted to do in my life and just being uprooted and moving to this new state. I mean, we had visited Florida before and I never really liked it. So just uprooting to move there, I already had like a chip on my shoulder. So the plan

was my mother and my stepfather at the time had this plan. to buy land in Ocala, which is also in Central Florida. And to do the whole thing, you know, house, white picket fans, basketball court, blah, blah, blah, we're going to be like this happy family. And they got caught up in a scam. So I remember the day that I had to go into the high school to get my school records and find out that we essentially didn't have a place to live.

So my mother and my stuff father had a scramble to find a place. And they found the place and settled on the outskirts of Orlando. doing this place called Kissimme, right? And I'm like, what is this Kissimmee place? The name sounds stupid, you know? So again, my brother and I, you know, we're very reluctant to want to move. Ultimately, September-ish, we moved to, you know,

we moved to Kissimme. We didn't fly. We drove, so we had to drive hours from New York with this on my mind. Like, I have to start this new life and this new place I've never been before. Not only that, you have the history of the deep south. So I'm kind of a little worried and scared of how I'm going to fit into this new, you know, society that I'm moving to. So once we got there and we got to know some of the locals and we made friends, they would tell us, you know, certain things like, okay, first off, Kissimmee, at that time, late 80s, 89, wasn't as developed as it is currently. Now you have more stores, you know, small little mall locations, you know, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of,

growing, but back then it wasn't as developed. And Florida is basically one big swamp with prospectors and property owners deciding, hey, let's build places where there's flat land and, you know, apartment complexes won't sink, you know, until like a sinkhole or something. So to me, Florida is a jungle in of itself. People who live here will tell you, even in central Florida, there's many patches of very deep wooded areas. And honestly, I don't see anybody going into these areas and coming out of those areas. So anything can live in those spots. So the subject of Bigfoot, you know, most of the time people talk about it in the Pacific Northwest,

specifically when I was growing up, you know, seeing the Patterson Gimlin film and all that. I always thought it was like a Pacific Northwest thing. I didn't know that Bigfoot was down south and it was called the Skunkake. that wasn't in my vocabulary. So when I moved to Florida and I started navigating because we didn't have a car, I wasn't aware that walking by like heavily wooded areas that there might be something possibly lurking in there in those spots. So anyway, let me get into the incidents, you know, plural.

I used to take this one route to walk to school and it was kind of populated. There was some spots where there were. was wooded area, but it was primarily populated. The issue that I was having is I was getting to school late and I was in jeopardy of like having to do, you know, what would they call it? Like when you have to stay after school like ISS and school suspensions and stuff like that. So I don't want to get in trouble. So I had to take an alternate route. And I talk to like, again, some of the locals and they told me there was a shortcut that I could take. So I wanted to take into shortcut. And initially it was fine. The only issue that I had is compared to New York,

there wasn't a lot of like sidewalks. So the sidewalk would be like a five to like seven foot like span of like just grass. And then you'd have a two way, a two lane like road. Okay. One with oncoming and ongoing traffic. And then on the other side of that same thing, probably like five to seven foot, you know, like length of just like patch of grass. And that would be essentially a sidewalk. and since Florida rains a lot, you know, you're dealing with like mud, you know, and my fear was just like, I want to get to school with dry feet.

There was many days I would get to school and my foot would be, you know, my socks would be soaked and it was just really like annoying. So on top of me, you know, getting uprooted, having to move to this different place, having to walk to school, having to get my sneakers and my feet wet all the time. It just wasn't the greatest time. So I want to say about like a week or so after taking the shortcut, I started to hear noises like in this patch of wood. So like how I described it was you have like this five to seven foot like length or the span of like grass. Then when it would dip down to sort of like this retention sort of area and that could be it could dip down from anywhere from like three feet to maybe a little bit deeper like five feet at the most. then it would come up to a bank and then it would be nothing but just like a wall of like trees and

shrubbery and I was told that back back in that those spots would be like you know swampy areas where there would be gators maybe some wild dogs you know every once in a while they said homeless people would you know sleep in there maybe create encampments back there but for the most part, I was more scared about the gators that they said that sometimes would come out to get the roadkill or get anything that would be walking by and bring it back into the swampy forest area. So because I was in high school, high school starts the earliest, at least down south. I don't know anywhere else, but I know down south it would start like probably like seven, seven o'clock in the morning school would start like seven, maybe seven 30.

So I would have to leave like super early and a lot of times it was still dark outside. So I'm walking through this like moist, you know, wet area with hardly any cars coming and going and just hope I don't get hit by a car or get, you know, snatched by a gate or something. So I started to notice something pacing me. Now, being from New York is not a lot of forests in New York. You have parts, obviously, and you have some areas. like apartment complexes that have trees and they have like parks there as well. But I mean, I know the difference when leaves fall on the ground like in the fall and you have people like jogging or running or you have kids playing or people walking their pets because

there was pets. You have squirrels. I could tell the difference between something running on two legs and something running like between something by pedal and a quadruped. I could tell the difference between that. I could also tell the difference of the sound. of something that's moving lightly, as opposed to something that's kind of heavier. So you can tell the difference between how a dog walks through, you know, shrubbery versus a human, so to speak.

This was something that was following me, the same path I was taking. I can hear the cracks of branches and tree limbs breaking, you know, something stepping on like, you know, the ground, you know, making noises. It didn't pace me exactly like how, like it wasn't taking the same step as I was taking a step. It was kind of off a little bit, but it was obviously something was following me. I can hear this noise. And it didn't start in the beginning of my route. It was somewhere towards the middle.

So it took me about 30 minutes at the most to get from my house through this shortcut to the school. So I want to say about maybe five to 10 minutes into my walk is when this would start happening. So at first, my initial thought was obviously some sort of animal, you know, whether it was a dog or a feral cat or, you know, something. Back of my mind, maybe a gator. But to me, like, if it was something that wanted to get me, like, it knew I was there. It knew I was walking because, I mean, I'm splashing through the puddles and through mud. Most of the time, cursing out loud because I hated, you know, having to do the walk. but it's something that was pacing me.

So after a while, over like maybe a week of this happening, that's the point where I started to like vocalize and ask somebody was there. Like, hello, are you there? You know, why are you following me? Because I felt like if it was a person, they would have to answer back.

Because, I mean, why would someone pace me, like a, let's say a homeless person, pace me and just follow me without making any sort of contact or connection. Like if there was anything negative behind that, it would have already happened. You know what I mean? After,

and this took probably like two, two and a half months this was happening. And it wasn't like every day. This was like maybe every other day. Sometimes it would happen two days in a row, but it wasn't every day. Now, when you walk and you have this wall, every once in a while,

it would open up until like this sort of trail. And the locals would tell, me those trails usually leave from one side of whatever this heavily forest area or forested area to or swampy area to the other side. So you always have like these main streets that parallel each other. And if you like in New York, you know, you can take a shortcut by going through a basement of one building and then find yourself on another block. It's very similar, but with trails. But they warned me and my brother don't take those trails because sometimes they lead you to like spots where you can get lost.

And again, there's retention ponds back there and swampy areas where there's gators and snakes and all this stuff. And again, you know, this might be homeless people back there, might be feral dogs or cats. You just don't want to go in there. But I would see these open patches.

A funny thing about it is as this thing would pace me, I got used to knowing where this opening would come. and in my mind I would get myself ready to see whatever this thing is because if it kept going, it would ultimately show itself. But it was, whatever this was, if it was a person, I don't think it was a person. If it was an animal, like a dog, I don't think it was a dog or any sort of cat or even like a gator. Whatever this was knew that it couldn't go past that point. It had to either find another route to go around that open area to then start pacing me again.

And then I would walk for maybe another five, 10 more minutes before I hit a spot where it was more populated and then, you know, there were houses. So again, this thing would stop before it would be in somebody else in somebody's backyard and then I can see it. And this went on for, like I said, about three months until I bought a walkman because at this point I really didn't care, you know. I was like, if something's going to get me, there was really no place for me to go. I'm surrounded by, you know, swamps on both side of me. There's a true lane road. If I go on the road, it could possibly get hit by a car. Either that or I'm going back home and I'm missing school, which isn't good.

So at this point, I just put headphones on listen to music and I would take my route, not knowing if this thing was pacing me anymore. And then after a while, it just kind of like went back to the old route and I had to leave even earlier. So I avoided that that route altogether. So that's one of the incidents that have. to me when I moved to Florida. Did you ever hear that the same thing would also happen to your classmates? Would you ever talk to your classmates about it?

No, I never talked to them, and I was the only one taking this route at the time I was taking it. Because in my neighborhood, my brother was an elementary school, and most of the kids were either in elementary or they were already like in college. So there wasn't a lot of kids in the neighborhood that were my age that went to the same school as I did. You know what I mean? And then it's one of those weird things where I don't know if you know about zoning areas, but I was in an area where the bus couldn't pick me up, but literally like maybe 20, 30 feet, like kids can get on the bus. So it was one of those things where it's like, you know, if I live 20, 30 feet, you know,

one way I can catch the bus, but since I wasn't in that zone, I couldn't catch the bus. You know what I mean? So a lot of these kids, I don't believe they walk the same route either, that was the only one on the road. during that time. Yeah, definitely. It's such a weird thing. The weirdest thing I think is that it would happen to you off and on for such an extended period of time. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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Could you get a feel for how heavy the footfalls were or anything like that? It wasn't light, but it seemed like, and this is just speculation. So I don't want to make it seem like I know. I don't know. I don't know what it was. But listening to other people's accounts, it's very similar. Because again, like when you're talking about going into an open area and then this thing, whatever it is stopping right there and then repositioning itself, meaning it having to go around

this open area to then restart pacing me again, which is again, again, not something that I can see a homeless person or just a regular person doing. Like, what do they get out of that? Like there? What do they what do they get out of watching a high school kid walk into school like every day or whatever, you know? And it seemed like the, every step had intention to not try to give itself away. But I can hear it, you know?

It's some, it's some creepy, creepy stuff. And, man, I don't know. How did it stop? Did it just all of a sudden one day you didn't hear it anymore? Or was it when you stopped taking that route altogether? I stopped hearing it when I started using a walk, man, because I was at the,

point where I just didn't care anymore. Like I felt, like I said, I felt like if something's going to come and get me, or if I'm going to interact with something, it's going to happen eventually. And there was no place for me to run. You know, I'm about like six, seven miles from my house. So if I track backwards, then take an alternate route, for sure, I'm showing up late. So at that point in my mind, I'm just going to stay home. And so then I'm missing school and it's causing more problems.

And then there's, again, if I run across the street to go to the other side, there's another wall of swamp forest. And I don't know what's in there, you know. The cars are very sparse. Like I'm talking like maybe every two or three minutes a car comes passing by back and forth. I have to walk more towards the foresty side because I'm trying not to get caught by a car hitting a puddle and it splashing on me, you know, which I learned, you know, the hard way. you know so like there's a lot going on in my mind while I'm walking to schools like trying to keep my feet you know as dry as possible you know and so like this thing is happening to me and I'm trying to understand it like oh it's probably a person who's probably animal but it just didn't

make sense because it's like ultimately like animals I don't believe do that I don't believe that an animal would be curious enough to pace without revealing itself. I mean, unless it was like a deer, but I don't know that they're deer in in, in, in, in, in Kissimmee. Like, I've seen deer in central Florida, but I don't believe that there's deer in Casimir. And I know there's bear in Central Florida, but I don't believe there's bear in, in, in Kissimmee. So, you know, I don't know, you know, and I don't know. I say, you know, the weird thing is, is that it was something that for, you know, it was day to day or every other day or whatever but it was it's almost like it was it was stocking yeah and

man I'd add weird vibes from that one man thankfully nothing happened to you but no and I'm much appreciative I want to frame it in the sense of curiosity sure yeah because to me like stock there's an end result always to stock and I'm I was an easy target there was no I mean, I was athletic at the time, but I was more like I played baseball, I played basketball. That's athletic I was. I wasn't like a wrestler or bodybuilder. So I'm an easy target at that point. If it's a predator or if I'm being stalked, that's the way I saw it.

Maybe it was stalking me and maybe when it was about to maybe do its thing, I decided not to show up anymore. You know, but the way I see it, I felt like it was more of a curiosity thing. Like, what is this? It's like, you know, six in the morning. What is this shit doing walking out? You know, like that sort of thing. You know, like, you know, he's interesting. He's, he doesn't look like other Floridians because back then I was into metal.

So I had long hair and a metallic issue. So, like, you know, probably like, what is this, you know, weird person walking, you know, in my, you know, my area, my territory. Oh, I love it. So you're like, did you see the newest stranger things? So you're like Eddie from Stranger Things? Oh, yeah. It was fantastic.

Totally, man. Play the Metallica play, of course. I was sick. So good, man. And then they threw the Kone and sword in there. You can't go wrong, you know? Legit, dude. It's legit.

You also had, your email says that you saw something weird. I don't want to give away what it was. You saw something weird behind a store one time. Yeah. Yeah. So fast forward, like three to four years later, you know, I'll kind of settle somewhere in Florida. still hate it, but I'm still kind of settled. And I wound up getting this job going towards Disney

in central Florida. And I think it was one of those things where it's a franchise and people buy into this franchise because there was a store called Goodings, but it was owned by like this family. And it was two best friends. They bought the franchise and, you know, they had the store. And it was a touristy store because, you know, it was one of those where the cereal was like $8 a box. right because they can do that you know like people come to you know to to to vacation in the place and and the prices go up you know so i was working primarily uh restocking the shelves and stuff like that now the owners they only really wanted garbage to go out a certain time of the day which primarily was at nighttime so we would have to stuff whatever garbage because they didn't want to

use up garbage bags so i worked primarily the day shift and then it was a crew that came in at night. And so we would have garbage ready for them to throw out at nighttime. So I had been working there for like six, seven months. I wanted to get one of my friends in there to work with me. And I was pretty good with the owners. I mean, they knew I worked hard, but sometimes they were like over the top strip at times. But anyway, behind the store was like this, I don't know, you call it like a reserve because it was nothing but again, forest. And that's the thing. Like in Florida, if you're not really paying attention, you don't realize that you go to, you drive by these spots that are populated, but in between these populated spots, there's heavy forests.

And if you look on a map, you'll see that they're connected. A lot of these heavily forested swampy areas are all connected. And just being into the topic of the paranormal, specifically like, you know, cryptids, it doesn't take much for these, for these cryptids to navigate. you know, especially if they've been in the area for so long, they know it like the back of their hand. I can see something or some things moving, you know, through heavily populated areas without being seen all the time, you know? So this sort of reserve area that was in the back, when you go to the back, you have probably 20, 30 feet of like concrete slab. and then you had like this big like garbage bin, this metal garbage bin with two plastic tops on it that you can swing open on either side.

I don't know if you know what I'm talking about, but sometimes, you know, we had raccoons that would go back there and open up those garbage bins to go in there and dig. So then, you know, you have like the grass would start going in an indentation downward. I want to say it would go down to probably like three or four feet. and because it was you know Florida it rains a lot a lot of times it was wet you know very like moist back there but there was a light that was above this

this bin now I didn't know too much about it because I had worked the day shift it wasn't until this thing didn't happen that like I saw this whole thing play out but I remember hearing just whispers from the workers when we would do the shift change about how they hated going to

throw out the garbage back there that it was creepy And that also there was a family of raccoons back there, probably like about 10 of them, and that they would hiss at the workers when they went to throw garbage out because I guess they were interrupting them as these raccoons would go into this bin to take garbage out and the bags in there apart looking for food. So one day I get approached by one of the managers and he's like, look, I have a guy that called in. He's like, if you want to make extra money, you can come in. and work overtime.

And then, you know, he's like, I won't have you clothes. I'll just have you leave probably like around 7, 8 o'clock at night. This was probably like in the fall time. So it gets start pretty quickly. So the garbage gets all, you know, assembled. And it's probably like around 7 o'clock. And I go out there to throw out this garbage. Now, above the bin, there's a light, right?

It's supposed to have a plastic cover, but I don't know what happened. The plastic cover was missing. And so what that did is that made the light almost like a spotlight because it didn't have, you know, when they put the cover, it's to make it not as bright. I forgot what they call that, what the purpose is for. But anyway, this thing was like off. And so it made the light like really bright, almost like a spotlight. And so as I'm walking up to this bin, I can hardly see the bin, you know, because this light is like shining in my eyes. But it's illuminating a pretty good portion of that swampy area.

Okay. So I see these two raccoons come out and they take off into the forest. So as I'm walking up, about to throw this stuff because these raccoons literally, they, they lifted the door open to where it was like stuck in the upward position, meaning it was like the bin was wide open. I was about to just toss it and walk right back into the shop. But I turn around and I see nothing because of this illuminating light, I see nothing but these little beady eyes. Like literally like 20 sets of them, but they're low because like I said, like after the concrete slab, it starts to go down in a dip and it dips probably, and I'm just estimating probably like three, maybe four feet. So I see all these little eyes and then moving around. And in my mind, I'm thinking these are going to jump me for this bag of garbage. You know, I'm scared of that, you know. But as I'm about to turn again to throw this garbage out, I notice these two sets of. red eyes. They're about, like, I'm talking the sets are about, they're taller than me.

So whatever this, these things were, they're down three feet. Like, their feet is probably three feet below me and they're above me. And there are two sets of red eyes looking at me that probably maybe 30, 40 feet away from me. And they're probably like maybe 10, 15 feet apart from each other. So they weren't like together together. But I mean, it was instantaneous as soon as I saw those eyes took for me to throw the trash, not care if it made it inside of the bin

and to run inside. But that was that was the second incident that I had. And do you stick around like at that job or did you keep working there? I kept working there for maybe a couple of weeks. And I've been asked this before like did I talk about it with the crew because they had talked about the whisper thing. I didn't talk to him about that because I'm no I mean it literally I'm you know it's all about this machismo thing I'm not gonna go and tell these guys oh I saw these eyes back there you know and get made fun of you know what I mean so to me I kept that to myself but I never worked another night shift like I got asked many times to work night and I was like nope not doing it you know because the daytime you can see like there were like these really thin sort of trees but they were like together but you're like together but you're like you're like they're like you're like you're not doing it you You could still in the daytime kind of see through it and see kind of deep in there.

But at nighttime, you weren't seeing anything even with the illumination of that light at night time, you know? And the sense that I got was I shouldn't be there. You know what I mean? So I got out of there. It makes me wonder because those, your coworkers would be whispering at times about going back there. I wonder if there was other people that saw that, whatever that thing was. Yeah, I don't doubt it. I don't know that they show something back.

or they heard something, you know. You know, and I looked up, you know, years later, I looked up, like, could have been an owl, but Florida didn't have a lot of owls. You know, I don't know anything else that has red eyes, you know? At first, I thought, like, are these raccoons climbing in the tree to jump down on, you know, on top of me, like, as silly as it sounds, I was kind of thinking, like, like, are there bigger raccoons trying to jump down in me to grab, you know, the bag that I have? because I know that raccoons are vicious

they have rabies and they'll fight you you know they'll fight you so that was my first kind of like quick thought like you know these raccoons but it looked like almost you know how like at night

when you're driving and there's not a lot of light in a certain area but they put up these reflectors you know it looked like kind of like that like reflectors it was kind of glowing but like There's no vehicles that go back there.

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It just didn't make any sense to me that there would be reflectors back there. But that's what it looked like. It looked like reflector eyes looking back at me, you know? So that's some weird stuff, Chris. I don't know what to make of it. fast forward even a little bit you ended up joining one of the services

correct I did I joined the Air Force in 1998 and during that time there in your email you said you may have seen some interesting things happen that you can share about

yeah I could I could talk about anything you want to talk about the stuff that I saw was more and I'm not going to say it like it's separate because as you know paranormal's a big umbrella and all the other like sort of subgenres like uphology cryptozoology you know and

and the e's all that fall under the paranormal umbrella ghosts etc so the encounters that I had were more like UFO slash UAP even though I don't like to use that term but I've heard other like servicemen stories there's this law that's going on which I wanted to talk to you about because I know that you're you're really trying hard. I've been listening to the last few shows. You're trying to find people to talk to you about some sort of hyena cryptid, right?

Am I correct? Oh, dude, you know it, man. You're listening, my brother, yeah. Yes, okay, because I'm trying to find people to talk about this lore out at Vegas called Catman, which could be correlated to what you're trying to find. but thinking about it and this is just me thinking and talking

I'm not speaking for anybody else I think cat man this war that I've heard about is a misidentified dog man so so it's another rabbit hole but listening to you and you've talked to a few people

and a lot of the characteristics are very similar and what I've been trying to find as well like the information I'm trying to find I think it's connected in some way because it's really all connected. But my, like I said, my personal experiences there are generally UFO related or shadow shadow people, which I don't know if you're aware of that phenomenon. But that's something that's following me my whole life.

So, you've had, wow, your whole life. Yeah. My whole life, dude. My whole life. My kids. my kids seen them you know yeah my brother that thing where you're like seeing

the figure out the out of the corner of your eye or it's a combination of like it's some sort of like a shadow thing I don't know what it is I don't think anybody knows what it is a lot of times it gets correlated with like aliens but I don't believe that's what it is it could be I don't know you know but it's it's sometimes it's

And so it's sort of like a shadowy apparition that has what could be construed as a head and, you know, limbs, you know, like arms and feet. Or it could be just like this blob sort of thing. And I've experienced this since I was like a little kid. And it's followed me throughout my life. Now, I'm living in a newer place right now. And I just hit the 50 clubs like two months ago. I've been here for two months and I haven't had any incidences so far. and I'm hoping that that's it.

I don't ever have to deal with it again, but it's always like looming around the corner that something might happen. So far, nothing has. But before living in this place, all the way until I was a kid, I've always had these experiences with these, what they call these shadow beings. Even when you're on the base as well.

Oh, yeah, yeah. There was an incident on base where like, do you want me to kind of, get into it a little bit. Do you mind? Because I know this is big foot like so here's the thing. I say we go for it. Okay. So this is one of many incidents that went on on the base. I wasn't involved per se. I was on shift. It's a context thing. So so bear with me. At the time, I was working in the armory. But you don't, when you join the military, you don't get jobs like that right off the bat. You have to kind of work ground level. So when I went to Nellis, I was

essentially a security guard. Nellis has pretty much two sort of areas. You have your main base and you have the spot back then, which doesn't exist anymore. I mean, the structures exist there, but nobody works there anymore. There's a spot called Area 2, right? So Vegas, as you know, or Nevada, as you know, has Area 51. They also have a base there that nobody really talks about called Creech Air Force Base, which used to be called Indian Springs. That has its own, you know, background. But I worked at Area 2,

and in Area 2, they housed nuclear weapons at the time. We were probably the second place on this planet that had the most nukes, okay, in the world. It's now that it's Air Force Base. So I worked at Area 2, and I started as a guard there, what they call a century. And I did it for about a year

until I put in for a job to work in the Armory still at area too. So this incident happened while I was working in Army. So my shift at the time, we worked 12-hour shifts, three days on, three days off. I worked from, I think, six at night to six in the morning. So this incident happened probably like around 8 o'clock at night and lasted all the way until like two, three in the morning. So you had like this patrol. They wound up stopping to take like a quick break.

and at the time the two vehicles that were primarily used were flatbed you know pickup trucks and then you had humvees those were the primarily like two vehicles so the the sentries that were on the fence line they're called

the perimeter like I guess guards there was a certain spots where they can stop and just like black take break and then go back to doing their ship so this each patrol has two members, particularly the, let me get this straight. So the perimeter patrols have two individuals

per vehicle, okay? In the vehicle, you have at least two M4 carbons, and then one of them has jewelry attached to it, right? So when they take their brakes, they have to have their weapons on them at all time. Obviously, they're not supposed to sleep. They have to be as vigilant as they can. But, you know, cops do. What cops do sometimes? People do things on the job they're not supposed to do. So one individual will tell the other one this time. I'm going to take a nap real quick, wake me up if any of the, you know, higher ups come by, whatever. So the only one's like, all right. So they're hanging out and next thing, you know,

they notice that their truck starts to go down, like, towards the back. And as one guy looks through the rear of your mirror, he sees, like, the silhouette of something sitting in the back of his truck. And so he tells the other guy, hey, there's somebody sitting in the back. Now, not to go into too much detail, every flight and a flight is essentially a group of people that handle a shift for a certain time. Every flight has to do what they call an exercise, like an exercise scenario. And that's to keep us on our toes and to keep the knowledge in case something goes down, we know what to do. So usually the flight chiefs, the person who I call the head coach of that group, that flight, he has to run that.

Or if he's not working that day, his assistant will run it. Usually it's another what they call a non-commission officer. That assistant can't do it. Usually every flight has what they call an officer, which is usually like a lieutenant, he'll run it. So automatically, they thought it was like an exercise and they call it on the radio, hey, is there an exercise going on? the control who receives these calls, calls them back on the radio and says, no, there's no exercise, what's going on? And so they begin to explain, hey, there's somebody sitting on the bag of our truck. We don't know who it is or it's exercise.

Next thing you know, this thing jumps off. The car returns back to its, you know, basic form and it starts running through the desert. So then it goes from it not being an exercise to now this actual real world. That means there's somebody on the base, an intruder. So now they're dispatching patrols to specific area where this thing was. Now, this is happening on one side of area two. Now, area two, like if I had to describe it, it looks like the shape of like New York City. It's elongated.

So it's probably maybe, you know, three, four miles one way and maybe like five, six miles another way. So on one side of area two, you have this patrol that called this thing in. Another patrol is chasing this thing. And then another call comes in on the other side that they're seeing two people running through the desert. So this goes on, like I said, for hours, to the wee hours of the morning, where they're chasing these things

that are jumping behind vehicles, the shining flashlights, and they don't see anything. They chase things into a building. They search the whole building, top to bottom, nothing's in there. Next day, flight chief comes in and says, this never happened.

Don't talk about it. You'll get in trouble, essentially. And it's not the first time that happened. It happened, I think, like, two or three times at the big. So that, those type of things happen at, like, Nell-E. Wait, are you going to get in trouble? No. I mean, I've been out for so long.

Okay. I mean, people talk about it all the time. I mean, I got out in 2002, so I'm good. And if they want to come get me, it's only going to prove my point. Well, I don't know. I don't know a lot of military. And so is it after a certain period of time that you can start talking about stuff? for I think it's like 20 years.

Oh, okay, so you're good. I should be good, man. I'm not worried about it. Not the first guy on this podcast to spill some military secrets. So that's weird. So you think maybe you shadow people or you have no idea what it was? That's what they were calling them. They were calling them the shadow people.

You know, and the description was that they were like seven, eight feet tall. Like, you know, it's funny because the description back then was what you call like the hat man or what is that thing that that uh could pasta very elongated looking character well hat man or or slender man probably that's it slender man is like very slender manish you know um very uncharacteristic you know and i mean i've seen stuff like that you know what i mean like i've seen that in you know past residences and you know when i did work at nillis i had a few experiences with those things or whatever they are. So, I mean, you know, yeah, those things happen.

They're real, you know. That's, that's so wild. And then the wildest part is this never happened. Don't talk about it. But you mentioned it a little bit, but I want to, I want to get into it. So tell me what is Catman? I'm really curious about what I haven't heard of Catman yet. Okay.

So I knew about Catman when I first got to know this. I didn't hear about Catman until the beginning of this year on another podcast towards the end of that show because they were talking about another topic. And this person decided, oh, let me tell you about this thing. And this person worked in the Vegas area. I don't know where they worked. They weren't. They were kind of cryptic about where they worked and what type of job they had. I want to say they were working Air National Guard because they didn't just stay straight up military air force.

But they could have worked like, you know, DLD maybe out there, Department of Defense. But this person brought up Catman. That's the only other person that I've heard of that brought up Catman when it pertains to Nevada. So when I first got to the base, first off, how I got to the base and everything leading up to how I got to the base is, you know, weird. end of itself. That's the story of my life. Essentially, like, the weirdest crap happens to me. I don't know why. And people don't believe me until I explain to them. And they're like, holy cow, how did that happen? But anyway, I wound up getting to Nevada and I want to, you know, getting, you know, Nellas Air Force Base as my duty station. So I didn't realize that I'm in like where Area 51 is.

There's some reason it just didn't hit me until I had my first experience like two months later, you know, that one experience with the triangle, you know, lights and the pattern. I started to do like research, you know. I had to be careful because obviously they don't want you doing that specifically if you're in uniform, you know, they don't want you touching any of those topics. But I remember having a conversation with a coworker

and telling me about this thing called Catman. Okay, so what's Catman? Catman is this scripted that looks like a cat And it's my-pedo, but it can go on all fours, and it's been running around, like, the Nellus testing range for years. Okay? That was the first, like, story that I heard

or count that I heard. At first, it sounded stupid, cat man, you know? Like, Bigfoot, I mean, that's been, you know, people have been talking about it for years, but you can use the trans-sasquatch if you don't want to sound stupid, I guess, right? You know? And then, you know, wherewolves,

like, the term dogman didn't exist back then. Nobody was saying dogman. You know? So here in Catman, it was kind of like a joke to me, even though I was into like paranormal, but it was kind of stupid. And it wasn't until like it was individual, I'll say his first name. I can't say his last name, but his first name is Toby. He worked at Maine Base in law enforcement. So Maine Bay's had law enforcement and they had some security because they had a flight line over there. And then like I said, area two, which was probably like a couple of miles from the main base, which is just all security, right? So sometimes they would flip-flop, meaning they would send people from, you know, area two to main base

to fill in spots toward law enforcement and vice versa. So they wanted to not sending him to do a couple of jobs. They completely transferred him over, which he was ticked because he wanted to be a cop. And he wanted to get as much, you know, experience being a cop, law enforcement in the military before he went on to be like an actual cop. So they transferred him over and then, you know, we became friends. and there were times where him and I would be on post together and we just have like these crazy conversations.

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and had to build this sort of like, like this huge cage, right, to house something in it. They didn't tell the uncle, you know, too much detail because they leave things out, for obvious reasons. they don't want people like contractors that are from the outside to start running their mouth about what they're working on. So it's always like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand's doing, you understand? You know, so they'll only tell a person so much just so they can get the job done, pay them, get them back, you know? And then if they need them again, they'll call them and have them do it again. So he had to build like this sort of like a call like almost like an encampment sort of thing, like this cage.

I don't know how many miles wide or whatever, but he wound up building it. He was allowed to go into Area 51 into the child hall in there to eat. The description was that when you get inside the child hall, all the windows are blacked out because they do like experiments with things and they don't want people saying anything.

When you're getting your food, you have to be a certain distance away from the person in front of you so that you don't spark a conversation. Okay. So apparently he was in line getting his food. And one of the individuals who works there, I don't know if it was like an engineer or something, one of having a conversation with him,

what's supposed to? And he asked him, are you the one that built that encampment? And, you know, he kind of nodded his head because he really wasn't trying to talk. And so the guy told them the reason why they built this encampment is because they were militaries involved in this hybridization.

program, okay? So hang with me, Jeremiah. Okay? Supposedly this hybridization program is to like create like these weapons, right? These weapons have to do with like mixing the DNA of animals. Oh boy. To create like this weapon, right? So essentially, what do they call them, Cameras, essentially. Yeah. So they mix these DNA and they mess with these animals to try to create and control them to use them as weapons. And so that was the reason. why this guy built this sort of cage or this encampment because they wanted to throw this thing that they created in there, throw animals in there to see its hunting patterns and see how they can possibly control it. And so one day they called the uncle back and say, hey, we need you to make some repairs on the fence. So when he showed up, there was like a hole in the fence. But it wasn't a hole where it was going inward. It was a hole that was going outward. So something busted out of it. So they asked them to fix that up. So supposedly this is a creature or creatures that are running around, you know,

the Nellis testing range that have like the this look of like a cat. But like I said, I believe that it could be something that's connected to this hyena crypticry you've been wanting to know about. Or it could be a misidentified dog man. So let me make another connection if you'll mind. Have you heard of Kenny Leach? I think that's what his name is. Have you heard of that? No, this is all great because it's all new stuff for me, so go right ahead.

Okay, so when you get a chance to look that up, this individual, I think the name is Kenny Veach. He's a hiker, lived in Nevada, and he would hike all over, like, the trails and the mountains all over Nevada. So one day, he goes into his area, he's never really been before, and he finds, like, this cave that's kind of shaped like an M. And it really got his attention. So he started walking, walking towards it. And for whatever reason, he stopped. And he felt like this pressure on like his chest. And he didn't know what it was.

And it kind of scared him. So he wanted to bleeding. He had his own YouTube channel at the time. And it still exists, if I'm not mistaken. You probably can see these videos yourself. But he starts talking about this M-Kave and the situation had happened. Because you have trolls all over the internet, there was. trolls that were hitting him off.

They were calling him a liar and blah, blah. So he said, all right, I'm going to go with a camera this time, and I'm going to show you this M cave. So he wound up going on this trip and he disappeared. Nobody knows where he went. And there's been people that had been trying to follow his traps to see if they could find this M cave. And I believe a couple of people maybe have found the M cave, but they haven't gone in there.

Now, listening to other podcasts and all that stuff, people have tried to break things down. And some people say that the reason why he had that feeling on his chest, because it was possibly infrasound from some sort of creature crypted. Also in some of his videos that he's done where he wasn't looking for the M-K, but he was just out there just looking around and he found other caves. Some people say that they can see like eye shine coming out of some of those caves. But that would be something that you would have to probably look into a little bit more, You know, because I mean, it could be just, you know, parodolia, you know, it looks like eyes, but it's not really, it's maybe a reflection off of Iraq or something. But Kenny Beach, yeah, he's kind of somewhat connected to that, you know.

And then if you look on the map of like Vegas and you put a dot where Nellus Air Force bases, and then you put a dot at this other Air Force base, which, again, I told you not a lot of people talk about. It's called Creach Air Force Base, Creech. and they used to call it Indian Springs and then you put a dot where this is called Snake Mountain this is around the area where Kenny Beach disappear to forms a triangle okay

probably nothing I mean you could probably make a triangle out of anything if you put dots in certain spots but I'm just saying like they're all connected people don't realize that like the Nellis testing range is huge to me my opinion is my words

I feel like the military pretty much owns like Nevada. I think the Nellis testing range is like all of Nevada. Because I mean, they own a lot of land out there and that includes Area 51 that includes this place they call S4 with Bob Mazar was

at. Oh yeah. I feel like that's all connected. You know, and for sure there's underground systems because when I was working in Area 2 we had these things called culverts right and they had like these these piping systems that would

I was told went from inside the area to outside the area. But no, they didn't just go outside the area. They went underground. They were facing downward going down into the ground. So why would they have these tunnels that go into the ground if they don't have an underground system already? You know what I mean?

That is wild. I mean, it's way outside of like what I usually look into. It's just fascinating. This whole Catman thing, because I did a quick search. I can't find anything about this Catman. Like if listeners know more about it, put it in the comments. Yeah, please, if you can send anybody my way about it

or if they could talk to you about it, I would love to hear more about it because I know, and I don't know much about it other than that. Also, let me tell you another story. All right. Having to do with possible Catman. So I'm working on Army one night. and I'm in a building inside of a room.

So I'm like really deep inside of like a building, right? So the main building, you walk in, that's where all of the troops come to arm up. My job is to arm up the troops that are coming on to shift and then the shift that's leading to take their equipment and weapons, making sure that they're in good shape and whatnot. They don't give me, you know, messed up weapons and equipment. And then I just hang out. I do work inside of the armory, whether it's like counting

ammo or cleaning weapons or anything along those lines. But one night, I'm in there, I have the radio on, and I hear like commotion in the main room where people arm up. I'm hearing yelling and screaming. So I open up like the gate because we have like the gate you have to open up where we receive the weapon, blah, blah, blah. And one individual I know and the other individual was like a newer trope. He was pretty much like a one-strike arm, essentially. He's sitting on the chair. He looks white

as a ghost. He has his head down. And this, the other person that I know is telling the other person, that that really happened, blah, blah, blah. So I'm asking him, like, what's going on? And I thought it was like an exercise, that they were doing exercise. They were trying to involve me because I know that the flight chief sometimes

likes to involve everybody. But before he involves the armory, he has to call the army. and let them know. He can't just do an exercise and involve armory because we have our own protocols, right? So I'm thinking, is this an exercise? How come I wasn't called? Blah, blah, blah. And you guys are like, no, there's not an exercise. And then I noticed the two guys that are sitting in there,

they're not supposed to be inside of the area too. They're supposed to be the outside community patrol. It's called Oscar Patrol. So for some reason, they can't inside. And I'm wondering what they're doing inside. It means there's nobody outside, you know, guarding. They came in because they were on one of these bluffs that overlook the backside of area two. And as they were about to back out to lead, they heard this roar, or what they call a scream roar.

That's what they described it. That shook the Humve-Dee that they were in. And they almost drove off the side of the cliff, which would have killed them. But they wound up like, you know, getting out of there. And then one, the airmen decided, I'm going home for the night. I don't feel well. And then the other one said he wanted to switch his place. post and he wound up having this with his post.

So that's a possible catman or some sort of cryptid thing that happened, but I'm not sure. Dude, all bets are off after hearing about potential chimera catman. I mean, who knows what kind of creature that could have been, but if it's enough to shake a Humvee, my goodness. Yeah, because I mean, these cryptids you hear, like even with like Sasquatch, they, they're vocals project so strongly that they shake things, you know, shake windbows and stuff like that. So who knows what this was? And there are Bigfoot out in Vegas. I mean, in Nevada, not in Vegas, like gambling or anything, but I'm just saying like there's people that have set out in the Sierra Nevada's and all that that they see, you know, Bigfoot's out there. So absolutely.

Who knows? Who knows, Jeremiah? Who knows, you know? Let me tell you one more, because I don't want to, I don't want to like, this is something that happened again while I was in Florida. but it didn't happen to me. It happened to a friend of mine. Okay. Go right. Yeah, go right ahead. At the time, okay?

This is like really quick, okay? So this individual that I used to hang out with is not into the paranormal at all. Like, they, he knows I'm into the paranormal, but he's not into it. Never talks about it. I would bring up, hey, did you see this document? You should see this documentary. This documentary, cool. He's not into any of that stuff.

This happened like around 2012, okay? So at the time, he was working for a pharmaceutical company. in this sort of industrial like area. But again, in Florida, you have areas of work, areas of swamp. Areas of areas where people live, area, you know, swamp area. It's all mixed in and they're all connected. So he would go to the back very frequently to smoke because he was a smoker. And in the back, there was probably like a gate which separated the swamp from, you know,

from the job. And he said there was like this really huge retention pond. And every time he would go back there, he would see like the gators swimming and chasing after each other, you know. So one day he said he went back there and he called me right after this happened. But he said he went back there and something told him to look in the specific area. And it was high, you know, high like shrubbery or brush that was probably like six or seven feet tall. And there was this one tree. And next thing, you know, something steps out of the tree.

And he said all they could see was like, like a shoulder, a chest, and part of like maybe abs. And it stood there literally for like five, six seconds and then went right back in. And he totally like lost his, you know what? He lost his mind. Calls me up. I can't understand what he's saying. He's like yelling.

He's saying, am I crazy? He's saying all these weird things. And then he finally explained it to me like what it was. And I was like, was it a horse? And he's like, why would a horse be in the swamp? I asked him if it was a bear. he said the shoulder of this thing was manly he said it was like a man's like like a ripped man's shoulder he said it was like you could see the the the

biceps of it he said you couldn't see the hand because there was like shrub recovering it kind of but he said that it was a part of a chest he was like whatever this was like a hulk he explained it like a brown hawk like a cinnamon brown Hulk. That is so strange. This is in Central Florida. But I've talked to people. I've talked to David Sidoti. I don't know if you're aware of David Sidoti. No. He's a research out here in

Florida. Stacey Brown Jr. Oh, yeah. I talked to him. Okay. And he confirms for sure in Central Florida there's tons of like little pockets, little groups of skunk ape out here in Central Florida. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. This is Daniel Fischel. And Ryder Strong from PodMeets World. Cat parents unite.

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These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent any disease, in combination with resistance exercise. Not just in like in the Everglades or, let's say, like, in Ocala, Natural Park where there's been sightings. But, you know, in Kissimmee is the history of stone capes in Kissimme going way back to like the early 1900s, you know. So they were out here. It's just people who probably had seen them and they just don't report them because they think that people aren't going to believe on them and things like that, you know. Well, if anyone would know, it would be Stacey Brown Jr. for sure. He's got his eyes everywhere down there. That guy is, he's a wild dude.

Chris, can I ask you one more question just because I've been looking at this thing in your email that you put in, and I can't let you go. If you can at least talk a few minutes about it, you said that you have a feeling that you may have seen a werewolf. about six months ago. Yeah, about six, seven months ago, man. Okay, so I don't understand. Like, again, I don't manifest these things. I don't call for these things to happen to me. I've never called for these things to happen to me.

But after they happen, I just don't have any answers as to why. You know, why? Maybe one day I'll find out. I don't know. But anyway, I'm a very habitual person. And it could be because maybe I'm autistic and I don't know it, because there was no such thing as autism when I was growing up. But I'm very patternistic.

I do things in patterns. And I just like to do things a certain way. And I'm not really a fan of change too much unless it makes sense to me. So this is when I was living at the house prior to what I'm living at now. The house that I was living prior, my wife and I owned, you know, the market was good for us and we wound up selling it. But I would drive to work the same route. and then drive home the exact same route. Okay.

So if anybody wants to look up on a mat, this area, I'm telling you there's something in this area in East Orlando, near UCF, University of Central Florida. There's a lot of like patches of swamp lands in there, particularly in this area where it's called J. Blanchard Park area off of Rouse Road. Okay. So I lived off of Rouse Road, but probably about three, four miles from the park.

And I would take Rouse Road all the time, hit this boulevard called University Boulevard. That boulevard, if you go one way, it runs right into UCF. And if you go the opposite ways, that's where I would go to work. Jay Blanchard Park itself is a park mixed with a swamp. Like literally, you can be jogging, and then you have a retention pond right next to where you're jogging.

And Gators is just right there hanging out. No problem, right? From what I know, there hasn't been any incident of anybody getting injured. You have people literally picnicking right on the edge of that retention pond with gaiters like right there, no problems, right? Across from that retention pond is heavily swamped. And that runs all the way from Rouse Road, the backside, all the way to this other part called Dean. And then it runs diagonally across towards University Boulevard. and there's like this little bridge area

where water goes like underneath I don't know if it's like a sort of creek and it continues on so there's nothing but mass swampy area there so and there's these little side streets on Ross Road now I just took the main roads

I took Rouse University bang a left to go to work I'm away back I hit university bang a right on Rouse go straight towards my house for about a week they were doing work on University Boulevard on the road.

And so they were cording off certain lanes. And that would cause like heavy traffic. So after about a week of this, I kind of got tired and I really just wanted to go home. And I decided, oh, there's a street coming up that I can kind of cut across and then take another side road, you know, as a shortcut to get home. So I wound up busting a right on Dean Road, which is part of that area that I talked about. but somebody else had the same idea as me.

There was a car that was in front of me about maybe 20 car links ahead of me. It was kind of like a goldish cream like car. So it's like 20 car lengths ahead of me. So I bust my right. It's already like ahead of me. It's about to make this left on a road called Buck Road. Now, anybody can do this if they want to. They can look up Jay Blanchard Park, Central Florida,

and look it up on a map like Aerial View. And you'll see that there's so much swampy lands there. Anything could be in there. Anything. So when I make my left on Buck Road, this car is significantly ahead of me. So I'm starting to somewhat catch up to it. We're about like halfway between Buck Road and that shortcut to hit Rouse Road, right? Because I'm taking a shortcut, right?

I'm about to make my right on, not about you, but I would be making a right on Rouse Road to then head home. All of a sudden, the car, funny me, slows down for a little bit, like slows down and then just takes off. Okay? Now, that's not the first time I've ever seen something like that because people tend to use their phones a lot

when they're driving, and they don't realize that they're slowing down or maybe that they're speeding up. So in my mind, I'm thinking this car slowed down because maybe they were doing something with the phone and they realized they had to take off and go somewhere or whatever. But it slowed down and then it just took off.

So as I'm approaching the same area, that this car was at. Again, it's like a wall of like nothing but, you know, swamp land, tree, shrubbery. And then it opens up and you can see somewhat of a field. And as I'm driving, and Jeremiah, this is like literally a seven second incident. But it's a lot happening in the seven seconds. As I'm driving and I look over, don't know why I looked over,

but I looked over, there's a little bit of an open field, there's something standing there. So all I notice is pointy ears, mouth open with stains, I notice somewhat of a torso, I notice two legs, not four,

but two, so whatever this is is standing on two legs, okay, and it's cinnamon colored. Okay? So in my head, I'm thinking, stump,

no. Is this somebody playing a joke like in some sort of costume? No. because mind you, I'm in a vehicle and I drive a Nissan and it's not high off the ground. So this was above the car because I had to look up at it. This was above the car. And it's probably about 20 feet away from you know, into this like field.

Okay. And even in that seven seconds, I noticed slight movement and I attribute that to it breathing, like breathing in and out, like the slight movement of it. And then, I mean, I came to my senses because I'm realizing there was a car that was ahead of me. And I don't know where that car is right now. So if I rear end this car, then I'm stuck and this car stuck with whatever that is. So I had to like snap out of it and then realize, okay, the car is significantly ahead of me and it's already made its turn on Rouse like I was going to make my turn. And then I just kind of just took off.

you know, I wasn't scared because I'm in a car going forward at like 40 miles an hour, you know. And the feeling I got is the first car saw it, it got surprised because it got seen by this car. It was about to like maybe take off and then I come by and I see it too. So it's kind of like, oh, crap, I've been seen. So I don't think it would have like maybe change. me or anything like that. You know, my fear more was, like I said, hitting the car possibly in front of me

or hitting something or hitting somebody, and then I'm stuck with whatever this thing is. That's wild. I think the wildest part is that you had to look up at it from where you were situated in the car. That's so crazy, man. I mean, like, I would never thought in the million years, even with any of my other experiences

that I would see something like that. because even though I've heard like accounts from this show and other shows, and I do believe that there's something out there. And it would thought in the million years that I would see it. In the daytime, nonetheless, because this is like 5.20 p.m. and the sun is still out. So this thing was out in the daytime. You know what I mean? That's crazy.

So open mouse, teeth, all that jazz. Yes. Man. Yeah. Say the name of the park again, please? Jay Blanchard. So that's J-A-Y, B-L-A-N-C-H-A-R-D, J-B-L-A-N-C-H-A-R-A-D, J-B-L-A-N-C-H-A-R-A-D, R-A-D, and R-A-D, Rouse-R-A-D, and look on the map, and you'll see that area, there is something

that's me out there, but this is, this is, you go, you drive through Florida, and I would imagine it's the same thing, like, if you drive through, like, Pennsylvania. You know, if you're from Pennsylvania, you probably don't notice these things because you're thinking about everyday life, whatever. But just how much terrain is out there where you don't see people coming in and out of there. Where, okay, so I feel like in Pennsylvania or somewhere like the Pacific Northwest, let's say.

Like a person can drive off the side of the road and just go hiking, those type of places. You can't do that in Florida. You can't do that in Florida. You can't walk into like some sort of marshy swampy area because, you know, you're not just worried about maybe like a big cat. or bear. You're worried about gators and snakes and possibly falling into a retention pond and drowning.

You don't have that in like Cali or in Pennsylvania. I'm pretty sure you have lakes and creek there, but it's not, I don't think it's at a point where you walk and you take the wrong step but next thing you know, you're in water. And if you did fall in water in Pennsylvania, there's not, there's not what's going to eat you. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Like nothing is going to eat you in Cali or any of these places. In Florida, you got gators. They'll eat you. Right. Right. Right. They'll get you. You know what I'm saying? Chris, It's an incredible chat. Thank you so much for coming on.

And, man, I think we've talked about things that have never been talked about on this podcast before. And listeners, if you know anything about Catman from Nellis Testing Range, please reach out Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. Or you can put it in the comments on the video, any stuff from this episode that you know stuff about. put it let's put some comments on the video and let's get some conversation going but chris this has been a super fun time thank you so much for coming on man yeah this was awesome and i honestly i appreciate it you're doing a great job but you're sure i think it's awesome don't change thank you chris i appreciate that you have a great night man all right my man peace here at bigfoot society our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment

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