Bigfoot Society - It Made a Bee-Line Towards Me! | Michigan

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Join host Jeremiah Byron as he talks to Giles, a lifelong Michigan resident with a rich history of outdoor experiences and a series of truly mind-boggling encounters in the Lower Michigan Peninsula an...d beyond. From eerie rock-clacking sounds deep in the Huron National Forest to unsettling encounters in the Saginaw Bay area, Giles shares his experiences in vivid detail. His accounts span encounters with mysterious figures, unexplained lights, and even strange happenings at a family home. Giles recalls not just Sasquatch sightings but also other paranormal events that defy rational explanation. Don't miss this captivating recount of events that will leave you questioning reality and the unseen mysteries of Michigan.Sasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost.Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to bigfootsociety@gmail.com. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societySupport Bigfoot Society by checking out these businesses and products we use below:Beam (better sleep)https://share.shopbeam.com/hnpc4ypeWildgrain (better bread)https://wildgrain.com/a/refer-a-friend/redeem/6ogi3frocb2zwtbx8gx8lksvnpgb6tnxbhqlhfk2/8487Goodchop (better meat)https://www.goodchop.com/plans?c=TB1-J803T6DKO&plans_ab=true&utm_campaign=clipboard&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=raf-share-hptSeed (better probiotic)https://refer.seed.com/x/JQ3nHFMedi-Share (better health care)https://bit.ly/4iHULkoRepurpose.iohttps://repurpose.io?fpr=28951Descript (transcription and visual editing) https://get.descript.com/r3bclm1qi6r3Streamyard (platform for recording)https://streamyard.com/?fpr=bigfootsociety Riverside.fm (platform for recording) https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=bigfootsocietyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:02:07 and now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, I've got the privilege of talking to Giles tonight. Giles is a watcher over on the YouTube side and reached out about some interesting things he's experienced over on the Lower Michigan Peninsula. on the east side of the state. Well, I believe it's east side.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I guess we'll find out in a few minutes. But Giles, welcome to the show. How's it going, man? It's going great. Thank you very much. How's for having me. Absolutely. Kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:42 A little synchronicity. I was just talking to another gentleman on the show last night over in the Lake Huron area, Port Huron State game area. So, you know, sometimes the show works kind of interestingly like that. But, you know, giles, I want to make sure you have all the time that you need to share what you've experienced. So I'm going to go ahead and feel free to take us back to when this started happening for you and any background that you'd like to share as well. All right, thanks.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I'm just going to kick it off by apologizing in advance to any listeners that are angry about me stumbling over. It's been a long day for me. But my name is Giles. I'm a 38-year-old man. I grew up in Michigan my whole life. I've lived around east side, west side of the state, and through my work, I've visited all over the state. Luckily enough, I get to travel and see a lot of the state.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And I spent a lot of my youth hunting, fishing, a lot of small game, peasant hunting, things like that. So I'm pretty well-versed in. And most everything, outdoor sounds, sites, you know, wildlife, No expert by any means, but I have a pretty firm understanding of what I'm hearing in the dark or what I'm seeing, you know, nothing really takes me by surprise very often. So I just want everyone to keep that in mind. I'm not a person that goes out looking for this stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I have a couple times just with, you know, through my interest and meeting different people, but it's not something that I was ever looking for when I had these experiences. So I've had a lot of things that I can attribute to that were definitely not normal, and I can get into that later, but I'll start off, I guess, with my first introduction to Bigfoot was, I think I was in the fifth grade, and I picked up a book in the library, had the famous Patterson Gimlin, Patty Footed, still on the cover. I can't remember what it was called, but I remember being really fascinated. Not so much with just the creature itself,
Starting point is 00:04:54 but I guess like the mystery of what could be out there, you know, that's not in mainstream knowledge. And soon after that, you know, probably was 13, 14 years old, I started getting more interested in girls and kind of lost interest in all of that and completely forgot about it. So fast forward to, I think it was 2009, a couple of friends of mine, a married couple,
Starting point is 00:05:21 they just got married. They wanted to go on a camping trip, and I believe it was like a Wednesday because we were unemployed at the time. And we headed up to a, it's kind of our, like, secret spot that our families have been going to for years and years.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And I guess I'll try to get some background on that area. It's in between Mayo and a town called Cummins, or Commons. I don't know how it would be pronounced it. Exactly, but it's in between those two towns, and it's in the, here on National Forest. And it's on like a little lake that's probably, I guess it takes probably 25 minutes from the main road to drive on these two tracks and logging trails to get back there. And it's kind of tucked away, like snaked off on a trail that you can't really even tell it's there. So not many people know it's there.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I think there may be a cabin or two with, you know, maybe a half mile or a mile away through the woods. But you can't, you certainly can't see them from the camping site. So we're camping back there. And I believe this was in probably the first weekend of August of 2009. And I remember it being just like a normal camping trip, just hot August summer camping. And I believe it was the second night we were there. it was probably 11 or 12 when we went to bed. We maybe had a couple beers, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:55 and like we weren't getting crazy. I mean, it's just three people out in the woods, you know, camping. And the fire died down, whatever, we go to bed. And it was, I'll never forget it. I had an old Nokia brick phone. And as soon as I started hearing this noise, it was just this pounding sound. And I woke up just, I felt furious that we come up in the middle,
Starting point is 00:07:17 a week to this kind of secret remote camping spot and, you know, it's not a campground and somebody has to come and set up a tent because I thought it was somebody pounding in tent spikes there's something like going wild. And I just turned over and looked at my phone and it was 3.40 in the morning. And I went from being mad to being kind of confused because I wasn't understanding like this didn't sound like a tent spike, you know, once I kind of came to after a couple seconds. And I just kind of sat up and was listening and got more curious. And as soon as I figured out what the sound was, I just got like almost petrified, like scared, just scared stiff. It was the sound of two, what I would say is if you held both your fists together, if you had
Starting point is 00:08:11 a pretty decent fist, like decent size, if you held both of them together, then that size rock. If you held one of each of those size rocks in each hand and just slammed them together, it was just rocks getting clacked together. And the only reason why I know, like, I'm 99% sure that's what it was is because I do construction. And when you're loading stuff into trucks, like that happens quite a bit because there's rock and rubble and whatever and what we're excavating. And it's a pretty distinct sound when it makes a clack sound. And that's exactly what I was hearing. And it just, it was repetitive. It kept going and going for minutes.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I mean, I sat up just stiff as a board, and it never stopped until I, I don't know if I passed out or what, but I just remember telling myself, like, you have to, like, just be quiet. I was trying not to make any noise at all. I could just hear my heart beating in my ears. and I was just confused and scared and I just tried to lay down as quietly and slowly as I possibly could because the sound was only
Starting point is 00:09:21 I would guess 15 yards away, 20 yards maybe max and it was kind of it was rhythmic but it would had abs and flows where it would slow down and get a little bit quieter and the tempo would slow down
Starting point is 00:09:41 and then it would just start right back back up again and like it was like somebody was pounding them together and they were getting angry because they weren't getting a response or I don't know. It didn't make any sense and it still really doesn't to me. And yeah, the next morning I woke up and I don't know if it was the next morning or before we left but I ended up going over to that area where I thought it was coming from and there ended up being a sizable rock I would say, I don't know. the size of a car hood. It was buried in the ground, but there's probably a foot of it protruding up and out of the ground from where it was unearthed. And I don't know if something was smashing a rock on
Starting point is 00:10:26 that or what. But there was probably for the next month, I was asking anyone that I could ask, like, what could make that sound, you know? And the closest thing I got was a few friends had said maybe a bear when they get aggressive, I think, they will chop their jaws together. And so I looked up videos of that and audio of that and it wasn't even close. It was when it wasn't repetitive, you know, rhythmic and it just was not loud enough
Starting point is 00:10:58 in that same type of sound. And then it was, you know, it's probably a beaver. And, you know, beaver don't smack their tails on the water repetitively like that for minutes on end. So I never really, understood what it was and I just kind of filed it away as hey I guess that was something weird that happened you know like oh well
Starting point is 00:11:17 nothing happened so got scared for nothing kind of felt like a like a wuss so I just forgot about it and then there there was a few other odd instances here and there of you know just strange things that would happen to me or me and my friends when we were in the woods and then the next definitively strange really strange thing happened on the lake shore of Lake Huron, actually more technically the Saginaw Bay, it was a place they called Hidden Harbor. It's not called Hidden Harbor on a map. It's just what local people call it. It's kind of by a Wizner. Well, anyway, I went out there and it was,
Starting point is 00:12:06 I don't know, it must have been late October. I remember I went out because I was unemployed for the winter doing seasonal work, and I liked ice fish at the time. So I wanted to go out and see if there was any early ice forming because it was an early winter. And I wish I could tell you what year this was if I had to guess like maybe 2014 to 16, maybe. anyway, I go out there and it's maybe 11 o'clock in the morning. I park my vehicle and there's a dirt road that leads maybe a mile back and then you hang a left along the Bay Shore and it goes,
Starting point is 00:12:45 I don't know, probably another three-quarters of a mile to this turnaround. And there's no houses around. There's maybe one cottage like a couple miles down the shore. Excuse me. And it was the one thing I remember, number is this area of Michigan is really, really windy, like almost all the time. So it's pretty odd when it's really calm. And this day was extremely calm. The phragmites, the tops of fragmentites weren't even moving. And I guess for anyone that doesn't know a fragment, I believe
Starting point is 00:13:18 that's how you pronounce it. It's like a overgrown cat tail. I think they're an invasive species from Africa or something. Well, they grow like 14 feet tall if, you know, if they're given the right conditions and they're just, I mean, sick as hair on a dog. Well, they weren't even blown. It was super calm. Walking out, I'm smoking a cigarette and I get, walking down this trail and to the left of me is just a wall of phragmites. They were probably 12 feet tall, 10 to 12 feet tall and probably 50, 60 yards back. Just, that's all it was was fragmites until there was a woodline. Then on the right was just scrub brush and little reed grass and, you know, nothing until you get to the water, you know, a few hundred yards away. So I'm walking along this trail and I get, I don't know, maybe 100 yards away from my vehicle, maybe less.
Starting point is 00:14:13 It's been a while, so bear with me. I might not be accurate with this. I was just walking and all of a sudden I heard something which I thought was a deer. like stand up and kind of spin as if it was bedded down in that, um, that tall fragment. And I just thought, oh, I just, you know, spooked a deer or whatever. No big deal. Keep walking. And I noticed the deer, you know, was kind of walking along with me or what I thought was
Starting point is 00:14:45 the deer was walking along with me. And, you know, I just started thinking, oh, that's kind of cool. Maybe I'll, uh, I'll see a big buck or something, you know, it'll pop out in front of me. And that's not. what happened at all. I just kept walking and this thing, whatever it was, just almost like I made a bead line right towards me. It started maybe, I don't know, 30 to 45 yards away from me when I initially heard the sound because that, it makes quail a ruckus when you move around in that, in that fragment. It's just like a real, like, swishy kind of sound. Well, anyway, I could just hear it
Starting point is 00:15:28 making a beeline like kind of towards me. I thought, man, that's kind of odd. That's not normal deer behavior, you know, because that's really the only big animals we have around here. There's no real bear. There's mountain lion, but they don't really say that there is. They won't admit it. And there's not really that many.
Starting point is 00:15:47 So that's what I'm thinking is deer making a bee line right towards me. And it started, the closer it got, It started sounding different, like it wasn't like a deer. It sounded like something on two legs. And then before I know it, the thing's like on top of me. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Exactly parallel to my left, right, 9 o'clock position. And it sounds like it's maybe 10 yards away at this point.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And I probably have five yards in between me and those phragmites. So it's only five yards into the fragmites. so it's only five yards into the fragment and it's just walking along with me and then it started mimicking my footsteps and like when I say mimicking I don't I don't mean like it was trying to sound bipedal like it was stepping exactly when I was stepping
Starting point is 00:16:56 I mean exactly and I don't know why I didn't I didn't think that was hey this is something's wrong I just thought like oh that's cool and I'd stop and it would stop exactly like there was no extra noise from it moving when I wasn't moving. It was only when I would make any noise or move, it would move. And I stopped probably six, seven times.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I just, I would go and I'd stop. And I'd go and I'd stop. And I should have turned around and knew something was wrong, but I just kept going. And the longer I went, all of a sudden, like the fear, like something was wrong here, started kicking in. So I backed away and I started shouting at whatever, I thought this was a person. And I'm shouting all kinds of expletives and I'm threatening this person. I'm telling them I have a gun and I'm going to, you know what? And I was just screaming.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I was both angry and just scared. like really like primal fear like I don't know how to explain it it just I don't know it felt like I was being toyed with like it was very intrusive like it was
Starting point is 00:18:20 I don't know like something was crawling under my skin like this I don't know how to explain it it just it felt wrong and anyway this thing wasn't making any noise it was just standing there as I'm standing there trying to spot any kind of movement over top of the
Starting point is 00:18:38 fragmite or like hear anything. I couldn't see anything. I couldn't hear anything. So there was a pile of rocks just within reach almost from where I stopped. And I grabbed a handful of rocks and I just started throwing these rocks all over where that thing was, like just peppering that area. I must have thrown at least a dozen, probably softball to baseball size. And it never once made a number.
Starting point is 00:19:04 noise. All I heard was just the rocks thudding into the thick muck that that's the ground under those fragmites. And after I did that, I was, I went from like scared to like just, I don't know, the most frightened I've ever been in my life. Like I was just waiting for something to come out of those fragmites and just get me. Because I don't know. When when things like that happen, I don't know how it works for everybody, but for me, it's almost like my brain knew that like this is wrong. There's something wrong. And we need to get out of here or we need to figure something out like to do something about this. But my brain was trying to rationalize it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like I was trying to be logical about something that I had no idea of what it was. you know, like there was no logical explanation for anything, but I was still trying to sort that out. Like, I was going back and forth. I remember, like, thinking like, oh, this, it's just a deer. It's just a deer. Like, stop freaking out. It's just a deer. And then the next second I'm thinking, but it was mimicking my footsteps. It was like, it had to be two-legged. How did it make that exact footstep like me? and it was just a complete back and forth of my logical brain versus what I'm actually experiencing, if that makes any sense. So I'm struggling with us trying to figure out what it is, what I'm experiencing. And it hasn't, these rocks I'm throwing at, it has no effect, so I get, like, just peek scared.
Starting point is 00:20:49 and I start walking back, backwards, just, you know, my head was on a swivel, just looking left and right into those fragmites. And this thing went from, you know, it seemed like it was kind of toying with me or, you know, curious to, I don't know if I angered this thing or what happened, but it didn't seem like it cared about what kind of noise it made or how loud it was being. I wasn't trying to be sneaky or playful or whatever it was being. It was its whole demeanor changed in the way that it was making noise through this foliage. And something else, I should have a big detail, I guess, I missed was when this thing was walking, I can't stress to you enough how almost impossible it is to walk through that stuff without making noise and the foliage. like without that sound that you're basically swimming through it. And this thing, all I could hear is the footsteps.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I could not hear any of that fragment scraping on it or rubbing on it. The other fragment, I couldn't hear any of that. And I still struggle with that. That doesn't make any sense. Like it was almost like, I'm going to sound crazy, but this thing was like its body was passing through the vegetation. but I could hear it like its feet. That's all I could hear was its feet.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I don't know. I know I sound kind of out there, but that's the only way I can explain it. Well, anyway, as I'm walking back through or back away, it's just progressively getting kind of louder with its footsteps and it's going through the foliage, and I can actually hear the fragment kind of moving around, but I could not see anything.
Starting point is 00:22:44 There was no movement, no nothing. And I still had a couple rocks in my hand, and I turned my body, and I'm starting to kind of jog with my head on a swivel, like looking behind me. And I must have been maybe 10 yards from my vehicle, and I just dropped those rocks, and I literally was running for my life. I was just running as fast as I could.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I ran right over the side of my vehicle, opened up my car door, got in it, and I never looked left. I just started my vehicle and just took off. And I don't think I told anyone about that for at least a couple of years. It's almost like I just come, like, it was too much for my brain to handle and it was just like, forget about it. And that's what I did. Like, it never even happened. Until one day, probably a couple years later, a friend of mine had asked, hey, should we go ice,
Starting point is 00:23:41 fish out at Hidden Harbor and it was like as soon as he said the Hidden Harbor where this happened it was like a light switch and I just was like oh my gosh did did I ever tell you about what happened to me out there and he's like kind of laughing goes no I got what happened you know and I explained to him and I've never told anyone that like the first experience or my this encounter at Hidden Harbor was ever a big foot or anything but I don't know what else it could be you know, if anyone has a better idea, you can tell me what it is in the comments that I might have experienced because I'd love for it to be something explainable. It's much better to think it's something that's normal than to always wonder what was that and just kind of have that unknown fear in the back of your mind every time you go into the woods. But anyway, sorry, I'm rambling.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So my third experience was it would been not this past October, but the one before. I was traveling to work. And again, it was, yeah, October, I don't know, probably mid-October, because there was still cornstable in the fields. Like, it had just been harvested, so it had to have been mid-to-lit October. And I'm traveling to work. It's a very, very light fog day. The visibility wasn't really effective, but there was a light fog. It was about 8 o'clock in the morning, 8.15, and I was traveling down Argyle Road,
Starting point is 00:25:19 which is in the thumb of Michigan, right? It would be southeast of Cassidy, Michigan. Again, Argyll Road. And I was traveling down, and just before the intersection of Tinnebog Road, there's a I crested over a little hill and I went down into a valley and there was another hill I was coming up
Starting point is 00:25:43 well as I get down to the bottom of that valley I would just happen to glance to my left and I noticed this huge figure and I did one of those like where you're you go to you only meant to look left for a second and put your eyes back on the road and I looked left and my head went back towards the road
Starting point is 00:26:03 but my eyes never left this thing I was just like in amazement. Like, this guy is huge. There's a huge person, like the biggest person I've ever seen. So my eyes never left it, and my head goes back. And there was just this hulking figure, probably 50 yards off the road. It may have been a little bit farther because I only got three to four good seconds of actual visual of this thing. And it was, I would have to, at first I thought it was maybe,
Starting point is 00:26:39 seven and a half maybe to eight and a half feet tall, but I think it may have been a little further off the road than what I initially thought. So it could have been, I mean, eight and a half, maybe nine feet tall. I'm not sure, but it was a huge, what I thought was a man. And my initial impression of it was, I thought it was a farmhand or a farm worker,
Starting point is 00:27:04 just a huge corn-fed country boys walking back to his tractor or something, to the field because it was it was almost like they had their hood up and their head was kind of like towards the ground as if you know the thought of like oh man I guess I got to go get this tractor you know like son of a gun kind of kind of thought if they're just head down walking towards the end of the field well the more I looked at this the more it just didn't make sense it was too big it was all one color and when I say one color like do you know know the um like those like the black it's black paint that they'll paint cars and stuff uh do you
Starting point is 00:27:46 know what i mean that that color yeah absolutely yes like how it doesn't have any kind of reflection like you can point a flashlight at it basically and like it doesn't reflect any light back it was it was like this thing was just a silhouette of this brown red color like if it was kind of the color of a of a carhart jacket but but not carhart brand like the like a kind of an off brand that's a little more like a red color that's a that's the color it was like a like a calico cat uh like the rust color of the calico um and just the more i looked at the more didn't make sense i i looked at it right from toe to head and i i was looking for you know if i was wearing gloves or a hat or something.
Starting point is 00:28:39 It was all just one solid color, the whole way up. And it was, I know it was moving. I know I saw it moving, but all I can remember in my head is just a still shot of one of its arms almost parallel next to its body and the other one just starting to come up. And like it was just like a freeze frame, if you will. But I know I saw it moving. I know I did. But I just, I can't, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:09 know, I don't remember that part, but I can visually remember the exact silhouette of it, just the profile, the side profile. And I moved my head back towards the road because I was going up this hill. I didn't want to get in an accident. And as fast as I could, I moved my head back, and the thing was gone. I don't know where it could have went. It was 50 yards from the ditch that was right next to me up. on the road and it was probably 150 yards from the ditch that it was going towards and the cornstable
Starting point is 00:29:45 was only six inches high and this thing's another detail i forgot this thing's chest was wider than what my shoulders are wide it was its chest had to be at least two and a half feet deep it was that that was the thing that really stood out to me was it was just a barrel chested figure. And it wasn't like a ripped physique like like a bodybuilder. It was like more like a
Starting point is 00:30:17 like a world's strongest man type of build where it didn't have a beer belly but it didn't look like it was, you know like it had washboard abs. I don't know. It's hard to tell I guess because it was all just one color.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And that's the one thing that stood out. was just its chest and the fact that it looked like it was wearing a hood like it had no neck um well anyway i uh i just kept trucking down the road and i i i wish i would have turned around wish i would have went back into that farmer's field and looked for tracks like uh uh just a lot of what a should you woulda shoulda could is um and oh and my my first encounter the one really weird thing that that bothered me as well
Starting point is 00:31:08 with the rock clacking was that whole time when I was sitting up listening to this rock clacking the couple was sleeping in an air mattress right next to me on a separate air mattress of course but they never woke up they didn't know
Starting point is 00:31:24 what I was talking about when I brought it up later when they were leaving I said hey do you guys did you guys hear that on you know Thursday night or whatever night it was and they had no idea they didn't wake up I because I almost thought that they had to be awake too and they were in the same position of just like petrified, like they just couldn't speak or move, you know, they were just kind of freaked out.
Starting point is 00:31:45 But that wasn't the case. Like, they had no idea what I was talking about. And I don't know how you sleep through something like that. I mean, it was loud. But, yeah, I'm sorry if I'm rushing through things. I'm just, that's been a long day. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Life with CIDP can be tough, but the Thrive Team, a specialized squad of experts,
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Starting point is 00:34:14 I don't know anybody's stories that I personally know or that they've told me. I know throughout just probably the last eight years of me just diving into, like, trying to listen to every story, every encounter, like keeping up with certain, you know, Facebook groups, there's a lot of encounters, and it seems like the west side of the state, because the Huron Manistee National Forest spans from one side of the state to the other in the lower peninsula. It's kind of like a rainbow arc across the whole state. and most people refer to the right there's the east side uh towards the huron uh lake huron as the huron national forest and and then they'll uh describe the the west side of lake
Starting point is 00:35:00 michigan as the manistee national forest but i believe it's all taxically the huron national or here on manistee national forest um but it seems like on the west side there's actually quite a few reports of like dogmen activity and things like that. But it seems like specifically like Oscota County around Mayo, Michigan, there seems to be a lot of encounters, like way more than what I would think. Because when I think of Michigan, it's at the peninsula and you would just think, you know, it would have to be hard for animals to travel around, you know, like with limited border, you know. But there seems to be a ton of sightings.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Now, like, locally around where I live, I know personally three people that have had either sightings or really bizarre encounters and experiences that don't really add up to much other than it sounds like it's a big foot, way more than what I would have, would have ever thought. you know, I kind of thought that was like just the one unlucky out of a million people that like, you know, something really odd happened, you know, and I just couldn't explain it. But it seems like genuinely there is way more sightings and experiences than what a person would think, especially for being in a peninsula of a state. So, but, but yeah, I can explain a couple of, a couple of people that I know personally. I can give you a secondhand account of what they experienced if you'd like.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah, just real quick before you do that, I did want to say that area that you were talking about in here on National Forest. I looked it up. It's like half an hour away from a town called Gleney, which had an episode on this show, well, it's probably about a year, year and a half ago, about a police officer on vacation that was, had a episode. a standoff with a big foot at a family cabin. So, I mean, yeah, there's things that are happening in this area. And you're also right that the Manistee National Forest, how it's usually referred to on the west side, there's a lot of dog man stuff over there. There is some Bigfoot stuff, too. There's some, there's some interesting things you can dig up over there. But yeah, if you would like to share some other things, you're more than welcome to do.
Starting point is 00:37:42 so okay okay yeah I didn't know if I'm rambling oh you're great yeah um so there's uh I don't name any names obviously because I you know just for their sake but there's a young lady that I've been friends with on and off uh since since high school and her and her boyfriend at the time they were camping up along I want to say it was along the rifle river up in uh or no i'm sorry it was the osobo river uh and that's along the east side of the state and they're at this primitive campsite um i believe you had to canoe or kayak uh or paddle to get into it was only water access so it's kind of remote and all these campsites are spaced out well i guess there was nobody else really camping around them they kind of had the the place of themselves
Starting point is 00:38:39 and they, from what she told me, their tent was set up just about 10 feet away from this mound or this hill. And then it kind of dropped off into the woods back behind this hill. And she said they were up one night. She made it sound like it was, it was dark in the summer, so I'm assuming it was, you know, after 10 o'clock at night, probably before midnight. she said they started smelling something and I can't remember what she described the smell as I know it was really bad she used the word putrid to describe it I believe but they started smelling something and then they started smelling a little stronger and then about 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:39:32 later they started hearing what she described as just grunting like and like like snorting, like something was sniffing the air, like, but its sinuses weren't clear, like, it was and I'm sorry, making an idiot out of myself, but that's the basic choice of what she was explaining. And I guess, from what I'm remembering, her boyfriend was really into finding Bigfoot, because that was on at the time, and he was like, well, if we have guests, you know, we should, how would you treat a guest? you should, you know, offer him something. So I guess he was taking pieces of, I believe, beef jerky,
Starting point is 00:40:16 and he was throwing him on the other side of the hill. And from what I remember, right, she had told me this probably five years ago, so a few details might be a little off. But from what I'm remembering is the grunting and the smells and everything started, like, ramping up to a point where she wasn't comfortable. And they ended up just hunkering down in their tent.
Starting point is 00:40:39 and just riding it out through the night. And she said the grunting and the snorting kind of just kept up until they went to sleep and they woke up the next day and nothing else happened. There was another gentleman. I don't know what year this happened. It was just a friend of mine and his dad and one of his dad's friends. Sitting here and we were just casually drinking a couple of. beer's just, you know, just shooting the crap.
Starting point is 00:41:13 And for whatever reason, my buddy's dad just kind of starts getting in. Something got brought off about Bigfoot or Sasquatch for whatever reason. I wasn't into the topic or anything at this point in time. So I had no dog in the fight. And he said something about, oh, tell him your story. Go ahead, tell him. And you could tell this guy did not want to tell his story. He's like, oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:41:39 whatever, whatever, you know, just kind of laugh it off trying to do anything to just not talk about it. And he just kept harping on the guy. And finally, I looked at him like, hey, man, you can tell me whatever. I, you know, weird stuff happens. You know, if you saw something, you know, just, I'm not going to judge you. So the older gentleman starts telling me the story. He says, all right, I'll tell you. He said he opened up his door. to go out of his house the one day. And around his whole house was cornfield. And he had a barn standing,
Starting point is 00:42:18 maybe 20 yards away off the road. And on the other side of the road, was more corn. And it was probably six feet tall, seven feet tall. So I'm assuming this was August, maybe September when this occurred. He said,
Starting point is 00:42:34 he looked, he opened his door, and on the top of the cornfield, like, coming out from behind his barn on the side of his yard, he saw the shoulders and head of this black, what he said was a big flip. He said he watched it walk, slow down,
Starting point is 00:42:55 go down through the ditch, and just slowly like it owned the place, walk right across the road, go down the ditch, walk back up the other embankment, and just continue walking through that cornfield until he couldn't see it anymore. and the thing was
Starting point is 00:43:10 apparently heading towards the north and this happened in a town called by a town called Seabwing and where this thing was heading would have been heading like almost straight towards town that was only literally a mile and a half of the crow flies from a town
Starting point is 00:43:29 which I don't know if that makes any sense because the wave, especially in the thumb area of Michigan is where I'm from there's towns probably every 10, 15 miles apart, maybe five if they're kind of close, and they're all just little tiny towns. So, like, I don't know why something would be almost on purposely going towards the town when almost any other direction is solitude. There's just houses scattered here and there and, you know, just on country roads.
Starting point is 00:44:03 So I always thought that, like, that was really weird, but I have no reason to not believe he's the guy I mean he he honestly didn't even really want to tell a story so it kind of makes me feel like he's probably credible but that was the first person that I ever met that actually like was serious about it and was like yeah that's what I saw you know what what can you do about it uh and there was there was one other uh a couple older gentlemen when I was I must have been 17 I was at a high school graduation party probably having a few beers and these two older gentleman where somebody was talking about Bigfoot or talking about something and they said something about Bayfoot and I just remember
Starting point is 00:44:45 I looked at him and I said what'd you say he said yeah that that Bayfoot things out there you guys ought to be careful there's Bayfoot and I'm like we talk about like Bigfoot and he's like yeah but here like on the Saginaw Bay and I just thought the guy was crazy I was like he got to be kidding me And, well, years later now, I don't think he's so crazy. You know, I've had my own things happen that I can't explain. Whether it was Bigfoot or Bayfoot, whatever you want to call it, or I don't know what it was, but it doesn't make any sense, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:21 But I said for years after that, I just, you know, I don't think people realize, you know, people that want to see or experience something, I don't think people realize truly what kind of shock to your, system in reality it is. It is incredibly jarring. It was, it's
Starting point is 00:45:45 almost like how do you believe anything when when I, myself, have been like making fun over, like not believing, thinking these people are on something or full of it telling me these encounters. And then I have almost the exact same type of things
Starting point is 00:46:01 happen and I'm wrestling with it, you know, and then I was making fun of that guy. I don't know. It just didn't fit well with me, and I really had to wrestle with that for a long time. And finding people that you can actually talk to or that won't laugh at you about it,
Starting point is 00:46:18 and they'll just listen and that's all, you know, not judged. That means the world to people, at least the people I know that have had experiences because it's so easy to laugh it off and say, oh, you must have been on something or this or that or the other thing. but there's been a few other odd things that have happened to me personally
Starting point is 00:46:42 I can kind of quit go through if you want or it's not really bigfoot related but it's definitely paranormal and just kind of just really odd yeah go right ahead okay um so one really really weird thing that had happened uh was I was living with my parents at the time, and I don't know what year this was. I want to say I was probably mid-20s, maybe young 20s. Well, anyway, one night it must have been, I don't know, 11 o'clock in the summer,
Starting point is 00:47:20 so I was at our sink, and there's a window that overlooks towards the south over our backyard, or my parents' backyard, right over the sink. And I happened to notice something out of the left-hand side of the window and I looked over and as soon as I saw it I said, hey mom, look at this. Come here and look at this.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And it was what I can only describe as a it looked like a helicopter with a spotlight shining down but there was no marking lights on this quote unquote helicopter. It was just like a beam in the sky.
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Starting point is 00:49:30 Get the Venmo debit card. Venmo Stash bundle terms and exclusions apply. See terms of Venmo.com.com. Venmo checkout not available at all merchants. Vimmo MasterCard is issued by the Bankor Bank N.A. It was just, I mean, haul and mail. It was moving. I don't know what the speed it was going.
Starting point is 00:49:55 It was going 150 miles an hour, probably more. I mean, I don't know. It was really moving. And it was only, I would say, 80 foot above this ditch. And when I say it's a ditch, it's called a state drain. And it's probably 40 feet across and 30 feet deep. So it's not a small geological or a small feature in the land. It's kind of a huge, it's like a huge river.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And this thing was going directly over top of it just, I mean, Holland. And it probably passed by my house. It's maybe a quarter mile from my parents' house. So you would think you'd be able to hear a helicopter or something traveling at that speed when it's completely silent in the middle of the night. And there was no noise, no anything. And I didn't really notice that. I just, I kind of, it's one of those things again where you know something's not right.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Like something was wrong there. And I don't know what it is, but I'm trying to, my logical side of my brain is trying to just sort it out and make sense of, make it make sense. Even though it doesn't. And I, I just kind of, it dawned on me like, I didn't hear anything. Like, that was silent. And I asked my mom, I said, did you hear? anything? Did you hear like rotors or did you hear the engine? She goes, no. I said, wow, that's weird, isn't it? Like, that's really weird. I just kind of sat there and thought about it. And it was maybe the next night, a couple nights later, I had asked her about it and I said, hey, do you remember that helicopter? Whatever we saw last night was the, you know, the spotlight. And she looked at me and said, uh, no. And like, she had no idea what I was talking about. which struck me as very, very odd.
Starting point is 00:51:59 I don't know, because she has a, she's a pretty sharp lady. I would think she would remember something like that, especially it happened like the night or two nights before. That was just always really weird. And then actually where that, I don't know, we'll call it the helicopter light. I don't know what it was, but where the trajectory of that was going, a mile to the south from my parents' house
Starting point is 00:52:26 right along that same state drain. It was, this was probably two years ago this happened in the summer. I was bored and I was just kind of traveling around backroads, you know, like my old stomping grounds as a kid. And I was smoking a cigarette, just, you know, mind of my own business. It was probably 11 o'clock, 11.30 at night.
Starting point is 00:52:56 just definitely dark. And I was, I was just driving maybe 10, 15 miles an hour creeping down this back road. And I noticed this weird light, like just off in the field. And I thought like, oh, I wonder if somebody's hunting or something. And, you know, that's kind of weird. And I just kept cruising. I looked at it again, I don't like that's a really odd colored light. It had like a blue tint to it.
Starting point is 00:53:26 it was strange and I that's the first thing I noticed that made me kind of draw my attention to it and the more I was paying attention to it the weird it got it was only like what people call an orb like it was just
Starting point is 00:53:42 like a glowing ball but it wasn't casting any light off of it and it was just maybe a foot and a half above like what the top of this bean field was so maybe it was three, three and a, three and a half feet off the ground or so.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And I stopped. And it was only 25 yards away maybe. I mean, it was close. I could have hit it with a rock for sure. And for whatever reason, I just kept, I, even after I realized like this isn't like a flashlight, this isn't normal, my brain was still trying to, like, I was just like, oh, that must be a hunter. Because it almost looked like it was like, like, just slowly in a wave pattern,
Starting point is 00:54:32 moving really slow, maybe a mile an hour, across the field, and it was just going up and down, just super slow, like maybe a couple inches up, a couple inches down, a couple inches down. And I thought, like,
Starting point is 00:54:47 oh, that must be a guy, you know, just walking with a flashlight. I'm not going to sit here and stare at it. I'm like some weirdo. And as I got down the road, I crossed this bridge, maybe 10 seconds after I took off. And I thought to myself, like, that wasn't a person.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Like, why? That wasn't a person, though. And it just really sat. I don't know. It didn't sit with me well. Like, like, I don't know if that wasn't my thought. Like, oh, it's just a person. Just leave.
Starting point is 00:55:20 You know, like, why don't stare at this person? Because I clearly knew it was not a person. Like, all signs are pointing to this isn't normal. And still, I just, I don't know if it was my brain trying to rationalize and just get out of there or what. But it was real odd. And then just, you know, you're around the middle ghost type stuff, like seeing things move, you know, like salt shakers getting tossed off of counters and, you know, crossed rooms. And there was one really odd, like skin crawling type creepy thing that happened me when I was younger. I was 15.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And I used to babysit for my aunt. She had two younger kids. Well, there was one night I put the kids to bed, and I had folded laundry or doing whatever to keep busy, you know, earning my money, whatever little she was paying me. And I had all these clothes hamper sitting on the floor. and I decided to sleep on the couch. Well, she had gotten home. She was probably at the bar drinking, whatever. She got home late.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I didn't wake up. And the next morning when I woke up, my whole body was covered in the clothes that I had just folded all over in these hampers. Like two or three hampers worth of clothes and towels were just covering me. And when I say covering me, I don't mean like one layer. I mean, there was, it was almost kind of hard for me as a 15-year-old to figure out what was going on and sit up and get all of this material off of me. It was, I mean, head to toe covering my nose, my mouth, my face, everything. And then as soon as I got up, I was like, what was going on, you know, trying to make sense of this.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And I, so I kind of just brush everything off of me and put it back in the hampers. and I walked into the kitchen to get something to drink, and it just kept getting weirder. There was all the silverware that was in the drawers was just on the counters. And I started thinking, like, how drunk did my aunt get it? You know, like, why would somebody do this? And I just put all the silverware back in the counters or in the drawers,
Starting point is 00:57:43 and I went to go to the bathroom, and then the bathroom was locked from the inside. So I was just like, this is weird. What is going on? So I woke my aunt up and she was completely coherent. It didn't seem like she was, you know, even like drunk from the night before or anything. Like she wasn't bombed. And I'm like, hey, can you unlock the bathroom door?
Starting point is 00:58:12 Like, it's locked from the inside. And I was covered in all these towels. Like, what did you do last night? And she said, nothing. I got home and I went to bed. And I was like all the silverware was out of all the drawers, the drawers were open, all the silverware is up on the counter like, like, and the bathroom doors locked from the inside. So she unlocked the bathroom door and the whole inside of the bathroom, like,
Starting point is 00:58:38 she had shelving that went from like almost the floor to the ceiling, these big shells. And they were all like pulled out almost to the point where they were going to fall out. and most of the contents were just scattered throughout the whole bathroom. So, I don't know, that was just super weird and I thought to myself, you know, like, man, it had to be my aunt, you know, like I don't know if she was playing some kind of crazy trick.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Like, I don't know why I should do this to her house. I'm just trying to rationalize it, you know, as a kid. And there was an experience that happened later in that house that led me to believe, like maybe that really was something supernatural or paranormal, whatever you want to call it. I was sitting in the same house. I was sitting at her dining room table,
Starting point is 00:59:26 and we had just made lunch for kids, and she had just got back from work. So I was babysitting them again. And I'm sitting looking towards the wall that would, and on the opposite side of this wall would be the living room. And to my left is my aunt, and in front of me as her son, and to the right of me was my younger cousin, Becca.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And she was, I want to say, four years old at the time, somewhere around there, maybe five. She wasn't in school yet, but she kept, she was the only one that could see into the living room because there was a partition wall there and a big archway opening. And she wasn't eating and she kept like staring off to the living room, just like she was really focused on something. And I was looking at her and I said, hey, you know, eat your hot dogs or macaroni and cheese or whatever she was eating. I said, come on, eat some of that.
Starting point is 01:00:19 And she just kind of looked at me like, nah, and she played around with her food, and then she looked straight over there. Like, I couldn't get her attention away from the living room. So I was like, what are you looking at? You know, what's so important in there? And she goes, oh, I'm just looking at that man. And I said, what?
Starting point is 01:00:39 And she goes, yeah, I'm just looking at the man. And I'm kind of like laughing, you know, like, okay, I'll play along with her. I said, what man? and she goes, oh, there. I said, oh, what does he look like? And she goes, he's wearing a suit, and he's got a hat,
Starting point is 01:00:55 and he's got a briefcase, or he's got a case, or however she explained it, you know, in her five-year-old terms. And I started kind of getting weird, like that's a, you know, kind of an accurate description, you know, because there was a little more detail in it,
Starting point is 01:01:10 like a tie or whatever, because I was asking her, like, more about what he looked like. and she just kept like she was looking right at somebody and explaining like describing them and I said oh I said was he outside the window and I went to go get up and look and she goes no he's in the chair like in the living room in the chair and as she says this as I'm getting up and I get up and I look over there and there's nobody there like not one not a soul I sat back down I said well I don't see anybody no he's not there anymore and she looks and she goes no he's not there anymore like just i mean deadpan like super serious and it was just like uh made my skin come all like ooh i don't know what you were seeing but it sure seems like you were looking at something and i just gave a whole lot more validity to whatever happened the experience before with all the laundry and the whole house being basically
Starting point is 01:02:08 turned upside down and nobody waking up which i'm not a super heavy sleeper but But if you stack things across my face, I'm almost guaranteed to wake up, and I don't know how I'd slept through all that. Life with CIDP can be tough, but the Thrive Team, a specialized squad of experts, helps people living with CIDP make more room in their lives for joy. Watch Rare Well Done. In all-new reality series, Rare Well Done offers help and hope to people across the country who live with the rare disease CIDP. Watch the latest episode now, exclusively on rarewell done.com. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation.
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Starting point is 01:03:43 Venmo Stash bundle terms and exclusions apply. See terms of Venmo.com.com. Vimmo checkout not available at all merchants. Vimmo MasterCard is issued by the Bankor Bank N. That's pretty much thumbs up most of the odd things that have happened in my life, and I don't think I need to keep rambling and talking to Europe anymore. You know, the interesting thing about all that is that some of it was happening before your Bigfoot encounters, which is extremely interesting.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Oh, and as you're saying, that Black Cat just looked. across the front of me in the Walmart parking lot. There you go. Oh, I'm sorry. Just one more thing. I don't know if this has ever happened to anyone else, but with the whole, I don't know if it's paranormal, what it is, I'll try to be quick because I'm probably getting long-winded here.
Starting point is 01:04:40 When I was five years old, I know the exact night that it happened because there was a picture that my parents or my mom had taken. And my cousin, Mike, had been spending the night with us. at our trailer in a little town called Kiro, Michigan. My parents had a, they bought like an acre of property and they bought a trailer and, you know, that was a startup home or one of their first startup homes. And I, my bedroom was like in a built-on addition from the main double-wide. So I had an exterior door and like a little like metal porch and steps that let off of it.
Starting point is 01:05:19 and it had maybe a window that was, I don't know, a foot and a half tall by a foot and a half wide or so. Might have been two by two. Well, anyway, we were having to sleep over and my bed faced exactly towards that door and that window. And that night, I had woke up something just like told me to, like, wake up. and I woke up wide awake looking right at the window of that door. And there was two kids in the window. It's the only way I can describe it. And I thought this was a dream for 20-some years.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I just thought it was a really bizarre dream. I used to have night tears all the time, especially in that house. I don't know what it was. But anyway, I wake up and I see these two kids' faces. One was taller and one was a little shorter. It looked like they were maybe 12 and 10 or 13 to 9, the younger one and the older one. And I remember them like just looking in at us and then all of a sudden they'd disappear for a second, like run down the steps or whatever. And then all of a sudden they'd peer in again.
Starting point is 01:06:39 And at one point, one of them was holding up when I think was a newspaper article or some kind of piece of paper with an article. and they were pointing at it. Like they were pointing at a specific piece of it. And I remember just being petrified, you know, because I'm a five-year-old, I don't know what to make of this. And I just closed my eyes. And then before I knew it, woke up in the morning, you know, just must have fell asleep.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Well, 20-some years later, this was probably six years ago, it was in the last six years that I figured out this was actually happened. because I told you my mom had taken a picture of us that night. And what makes me remember that night is because I peed the bed, which is not a cool thing to admit to thousands of people on the internet. But that's how I remember. And I remember being so ashamed, you know, thinking, oh, my cousin's going to think I'm such a little baby. I peed the bed.
Starting point is 01:07:39 That every time I see that image, I think, of me wetting the bed and that night and those kids or that dream. And it was, like I said, five years ago, I asked my cousin, because that picture was hanging in our house and he happened to be visiting. It was some kind of family gathering. And I said, hey, do you remember the night that picture was taken? And he kind of gave me a weird look. And he's like, yeah, I remember. Why? I said, do you remember anything weird that night?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Like, I just wanted to ask him without planting any seeds or anything. You know, and I just wanted to know if he saw anything weird. And I said, you know, I asked him that question. He says, um, yeah. I said, what do you remember? Do you remember anything involving like, you know, anything with that door that used to lead outside of my room or outside? And he goes, yeah. I said, what did you see?
Starting point is 01:08:36 He goes, I saw a couple kids. And I just, both of us, like our heart sank. Like, wow, that was real. because I think he was thinking the same thing like that had to have been a dream or a nightmare or something like you know like just forget about it but he remembered exactly the same thing I remembered I said do you were they was it just the kids or was there anything else were they holding anything you know and he said yeah they were holding a piece of paper or like a newspaper I was like son of a you know son of a gun just you know the things that you just you just you know you just you just you just you're just you just you're right off as, oh, I must be crazy or that never happened. It's amazing when you actually have confirmation of like, no, that really legitimately did happen and there's another person that can corroborate it because all the other odd things that have ever happened in my whole life has all just been me.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Nobody else to share the experience. Nobody else to, you know, hey, did you see the same thing I've seen or did you hear what I heard? and the only time there was another person or a couple of people there, like they were just dead of the world, didn't even wake up for the experience or the sound. And that really has always bothered me, like, for the longest time, like, man, why can't this happen? With somebody else to see it or to, you know, at least let me know that I'm not crazy. But that's literally all of it.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I'm sorry for being so long-winded, and if I'm stumbling, and through my words, I really, I'm sorry. I think you did a fantastic job. It's always very special when someone can collaborate something you saw without you even saying what it was, which is very cool. But you have had some really, really interesting experiences around Michigan. and I just want to thank you for coming on this show, Giles. But, you know, go real quick before we end, you know, you did have that visual of something for a few seconds. From based on what you saw, was it something that seemed more, more ape-like or more
Starting point is 01:11:09 human like or was it something that was maybe completely different? Before I answer, keep in mind I didn't see any details, like facial features, any, any skin tone, any, anything. Sure. But with that in mind, that looked 100% like a human, like just a freakishly big human. and it took me a little while to convince myself like that was not a person like there is absolutely no way and that's with without the thought of them disappearing like it was such a just girthy big person that's the only way i can describe is like a corn-fed country boy like if andre the giant was
Starting point is 01:12:06 like and physically like physically more fit like he was more toned out you know like actually cared about his health and just bigger like this thing was so big but definitely I would say much more manlike appearance
Starting point is 01:12:27 than anything there was not really much gorilla about it than like the way that it's head and neck was it just looked like it had no neck like it was just wearing a hood but it clearly wasn't wearing any clothes wild wild stuff you know one thing's for sure
Starting point is 01:12:49 there is some weird stuff going on in Michigan I just want to say thank you for coming on the show giles to share what you've experienced over the years and you know definitely keep us in mind if you do experience anything else weird in the future we'd love to hear from you Oh yeah, yep.
Starting point is 01:13:08 I really appreciate having the opportunity to just get this off my test and let people know. So I think Michigan's kind of a state where I don't know if we're behind the curve and technology and people getting on board with the different YouTube channels and Facebook pages and getting involved in online communities with this. but it seems like it's really picking up a lot of steam and people are more willing than ever to be open with you and give you their real experiences and not just sit there in silence
Starting point is 01:13:48 and feeling like they're going to be judged. So the more people that come forward with honest truth, the more normal it's going to be for everybody and easier it'll be for anybody that wants to just, express themselves and what's happened to them. Appreciate what you're doing. You and everybody, every other channel that's like this. Well, thank you, guys.
Starting point is 01:14:11 And again, feel free to reach out if you ever need to share anything else. But thanks for coming on the show tonight. Oh, yeah. The pleasure has been all mine now. Thank you very much. I just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you, all my listeners, for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube,
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