Bigfoot Society - It Screamed at Us from the Ridge – Oregon Trooper's Bigfoot Showdown

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

What happens when a former Oregon State Trooper steps into the woods for a bear hunt — and ends up face-to-face with the unknown?In this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society, Jeremiah Byron talks with Ethan, a law enforcement veteran and lifelong outdoorsman who shares chilling encounters from deep in the Oregon wilderness. From unsettling whoops between unseen creatures to perfect three-knock patterns in the dead of night, Ethan recounts a night that changed everything. You’ll hear stories from the Southern Blue Mountains, Suttle Lake, the edge of the Warm Springs Reservation, and even Prospect and Granite — places where hunters have fled, terrified, in the middle of the night.Whether it's pistol-drawn standoffs in the dark or whispered legends passed between trusted troopers, Ethan’s experiences reveal the darker side of Bigfoot encounters — and the silent intelligence behind them. This isn’t campfire gossip. It’s boots-on-the-ground testimony from someone who swore to protect and serve... and now swears he wasn’t alone.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:[e-mail]

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Visit your nearby Lowe's on West Pico Boulevard in Los Angeles. You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's account is from a man who spent years wearing a badge patrolling some of the most remote roads in Oregon. But one summer night, deep in the central Oregon forest, what started as a routine bear hunt became something much more primal a strange communication echoing

between two unseen figures pistols drawn in the dark and a silence that felt watched. This is a story of Ethan, the Oregon State Trooper, who found something out there that training couldn't explain. So stay with us.

All right, Bickford Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Ethan today. Ethan is a former Oregon State Trooper who is patrolling mainly the areas of eastern and central Oregon. It's a privilege to have him on the show today. How's it going, Ethan? It's going good. I'm excited for this. Absolutely. I believe we were introduced over on the TikTok platform, correct? Yeah. Absolutely. You had an interesting thing that I asked if you

wanted to come on the show to share today. So I'm going to make sure that, you know, you have the time to do that. So I'll go ahead, pass things right over to you. Feel free to take us back to this incident that happened where you had some interesting things happened. Yeah, so just to start, I was born and raised in John Day, went to high school there, my three older siblings went to high school there, and all as well, born and raised. And I lived in John Day, my family still has, but I had a ranch that was homesteaded that is outside of the Prairie City area, which is near the southern blue mountains. And I was in a hunting family. We had a wood stove.

So my dad being a logger, we always went out for firewood several times every summer as a family and hunted the same areas that kind of surround my family's ranch. So, I mean, I wouldn't say that I lived in the woods, but I was very often out there. And the summer of 2011, I was on the Prairie City U.S. Forest Service hand crew where we also patrolled and fought fires mainly in that area. And it took us to other states as well. But that was our most frequent area of patrol and response. Anyway, yeah, I met my ex-wife in 2012, and she grew up here in Central Oregon, where I currently live, and her dad hunted an area that is a little bit northwest of Sisters Oregon.

And I saw your post on TikTok about Suttall Lake, and I was like, shoot, that's, that's like really near where I hunt. It would probably be about 30 miles north-northeast of Sutter Lake where I bear hunt. And I'm actually going to be elk hunting there this year in addition to bear hunting. But anyway, yeah, I saw your video and I'm big into Bigfoot and a really good friend of mine who I call a brother. We actually have planned to get an entire leg sleeve together that is all sorts of different Bigfoot themed things. And I want to have like Barry from Harry and the Henderson's as part of it and like a Bigfoot crossing sign. and like your typical big foot in the trees photo and and no so when I came across your page,

I'm like, man, this is cool. And, but anyway, yeah, I saw your post about Settle Lake. And I want to say this was like 2020 when I was bear hunting out in that area with my brother and who he, I would say, lived in the woods. like this guy lives and breathes hunting, always out in the woods. I call myself a hillbilly, but if there was a picture of a hillbilly, that would be Levi. And so he hadn't been out to this bear hunting spot yet. And I had, I believe, three trail cameras set up out there. And it would have been in August of that year.

And I asked him if he wanted to join me for an evening. We were going to go out near sundown, grab the trail camera photos. and he had a tablet that we could plug the memory cards into. So our plan was to go out to this spot, grab the memory cards, go back to a little camping spot that's not even a quarter mile away from where we hunt right off the side of the road,

and we would check the photos and make a plan for the following morning. And this bear hunting spot is like 150 yards off the commonly traveled road. I won't name the road. But it's kind of encompassed, within a switchback of the road. So I would say like probably two thirds of, like, if you were to make a triangle around of this spot with that hunting spot at the center, the little waterhole that we sit on, both two sides of that triangle would be roadway that are within 150 yards.

So it's like not very far off the beaten path at all. And it's a really easy walk to this spot too. And so we got out there a little later than planned. it was pretty dark, just dark enough we could see with the naked eye. And we walk about 100 yards across this little open, grassy area that's almost high level with the roadway. And we get to the edge where there's a little probably like 30-foot rock cliff that's all encompassed with pine trees.

And we walk around the side of that cliff down into the waterhole. And this is how we usually get in there. and Levi and I get probably like 50 yards from the edge of that, the top of that rock cliff. And we hear this, this animal noise. And it's like, uh,

like a who noise. But it's nothing that I've heard of bear do. It's definitely not an owl hoot or like a dove hoot. Um, we both freeze. They're on our necks go up. He looks at me, and this is where, like I say, Levi grew up in the woods and even more of an avid hunter than I've ever been. And he looks at me with bug eyes and he's like, I've never heard that before. But the crazy thing was, so we could tell this sound was like at the top of this rock edge that drops off behind wherever this thing was. And it was just back in the trees where we couldn't see, but it was so it was dark enough that we couldn't see that far anyway.

We could just see like the silhouettes of trees. But the same noise responded to that noise down in the bowl where this waterhole was. So these two things, whatever they were, I'm convinced it was big fun. They were communicating back and forth. And we kind of froze. We're like, we don't want to run. We don't want to get closer. We don't know what this thing is.

It's obviously close. And at about the same elevation that we are. and every few seconds this thing would make the who noise and whatever it was down in this bowl near the waterhole, every time it responded, it was farther away. So it's like whatever this was in front of us was communicating to whatever it was down in the bowl to go away. and this happened for it seems like forever but it was probably like 10 minutes

where every 10 to 30 seconds it would haul down into the bowl and that thing would respond and you could tell by the lowered volume that it was getting farther and farther away and after this we'll just say it was 10 minutes that they were communicating it just stopped

I didn't hear any rush being displaced, and he sticks cracking, any leaves. It was pretty dry. This was a pretty dry summer. So the grass was dry and yellow, and there's pine needles everywhere, but we heard nothing as far as physical movement. What's like, I mean, elk moves through the trees like ghosts. And it always surprises me how elk and deer can move,

and all of a sudden they're right in front of you. but this was like a different level of silence as they and we stayed in that spot for like 10 minutes like trying to look we didn't want to shine flashlights which we had I carried a 357 revolver on my hip and that's actually what I bear hunted with because I shot a bear in 2015 with a revolver and and killed it in its tracks and I shot it

clean shot between the eyes from 20 yards away and Levi carried a 45 semi-auto pistol 1911 on his hip. And he had that pistol out so fast when we heard those noises. And not like, I'm going to kill whatever this is. It was in defense. And most avid hunters appreciate nature, and it's a way of conservation for them. And so, like, we're not out to kill everything. And we're out to fill our freezer and to make memories.

and yeah, Levi pulled his pistol out. And I saw that and I'm like, oh, shoot, I better pull my pistol out. And as you mentioned, I'm a former state trooper. I left the state police in early 2020. Sorry, early 2022. And so at that time, I was still employed. And I like to think that that makes me a little more credible

because a lot of people hear Bigfoot stories. and they're like, oh, this guy's just a kook, you know, he's crazy. And I've got several other thirdhand stories from credible people that I hope to get into while we talk that are also from very level-headed credible people. And so anyway, we stood there for probably another 10 minutes after we stopped hearing these noises. And we were kind of debating like, do we go down there and risk whatever that was, like crossing paths, with it or do we just go back to our camping spot or do we just get the heck out of here? Like this was, we were both on edge. And Levi, he's like, you know what?

We came to get the camera memory cards. Whatever that was might actually be in these pictures. And we decided to walk down in there, guns drawn. And so we walked down there, walking really slow, on edge, like looking all around kind of frivolously and went down there, grab the memory cards, and the whole time we felt like we were being watched.

And for anyone who's ever had the feeling that they're being watched, like almost every time, like if you're in a crowded space and you get that feeling, you will find somebody looking at you. So I think it's a, I would say, like, the sixth sense that, you know, I've,

I've dove into like these gut feelings, and this stuff and a lot of the research in it and there's a lot of people that think that that sixth sense was like a natural thing that humans had that it's just been dumped down because of technology the way we live now.

Like you don't need that and you think back to like I want to say like Oregon Trail days and before like when there were Native Americans and it was all living off the land like that sense was a lot more into and the whole time we were down there to grab the cameras, which was a really short period of time

because we were still kind of in a panic mode. We felt like we were being watched. And so we grabbed the memory cards. I tailed it out of there and got back to the truck and drove back like the quarter mile to where a little camp in Scott was, which was we just pulled like the 10 feet off the road. There was a little out there. And we hadn't set up a tent yet,

So we're doing all this in the dark the whole time being like, man, that was crazy. I've never heard that before. You know, completely different than anything we've, either one of us has ever experienced. And so we set up the tent. We make like some hot dogs or something on a little propane cut up. And we get in the tent to go to sleep. And I've, I struggle with insomnia anyways. But we got in the tent at like 9 p.m.

Levi fell asleep by probably like 10.30. And I was awake till probably 3 a.m. Just laying there listening. And at some point to the night, and it was, I want to say it was near a full moon, because I remember seeing the moon. I don't think it was like a full moon, but I remember the moonlight kind of lighting up around us. And I had all the zippered screens shut so that I couldn't see outside,

that something couldn't see in, but I could see through the top where we didn't put the rain guard on. And I want to say it was around 1.30 in the morning, I'm laying there, and I hear this knocking noise that didn't sound like it was very far away. I mean, in the woods, it's all deceiving, but I would guess, like, 70, 80 yards away. And what really caught my attention with this was it was three knocks, three times, spaced perfectly apart. So I'm like this.

To me, can't be like a bird, like a woodpecker. It was knock, knock, knock, knock, knock. Knock, knock. And I only heard it the one time. And again, the hair on my neck went up.

And I remember my mind wandering back into, like, I had watched some of these big foot hunting shows when I was younger. And they talked about tree knocking. I'm like, holy crap. like the fact that it was three knocks it was evenly spaced like i'm a big music guy and like timing and you know i was in band in middle school and i played guitar for a long time so like timing and pace and spacing and stuff that was i'm pretty in tune with that and the fact that it was so evenly spaced so perfectly spaced the tone or note was like the same like when i'm driving down the road

on the steering wheel. There's different spots on the steering wheel that sound different, you know, and I'm like, this was intentional. And, boy, it took me a while to fall asleep that night, but we didn't see anything on the memory cards. We didn't get an animal the next day. And, like, we sat there and funded for several hours. We just sat. We have a little spot that we sit at and we watch the watering hole, the, like, elk waller that they roll around in. It's a spring-fed little, like, Eight-foot circle full of water. And when we sat there for probably seven or eight hours, nothing came. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable

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There was an howl that came in regularly. A lot of really cool nature photos, but it was daily that we had coyotes, bears, deer, elk coming into this spring-fed waterhole. And I would, when I hunt, when I'm leading up to that hunting season for the few weeks leading into it, I'll wear like one of my trashy white t-shirts for a full day, and then I'll bring it out there and kind of hang it on a tree in that area so that my scent is. out there regularly. And I tried to make that scent like something that's normal or common for them to smell in that area so that when I'm actually there in person, hopefully that would make it not be out of the ordinary.

And I probably had three shirts that I had brought out and, you know, I brought the previous one back with me. And, but anyway, it was really strange to me that that day there was nothing in there. Like, no animals came in. There was a few birds flying around, but it was. was almost eerily silent. And anyway, that's, that's the gist of that experience

that I personally had. That is extremely interesting, especially, you know, the part you just said where it had that extreme quiet most of the time that you were in there, it sounds like. Yeah. After this,

it sounds like you're, you are also looking into to Bigfoot things and you know, you know the area that you were in. Have you ever looked to see if there's been any other reported activity around that area?

You know, honestly, I never I don't think I've really thought about it, but I don't know if I, aside from seeing your page recently, I don't know that I would know where to start looking for reports like that. And I feel like there might be like a certain very small percentage of experiences that are actually reported. Like I've told this story to several people because I used to be really shy and introverted, I guess.

And I definitely moved past that. I think a lot of it had to do with law enforcement and being forced to talk to people all the time. But also, like I mentioned, I had an ex-wife. I married again and she's amazing, you know, but like, I forced myself to be more extroverted because I kept a lot of my feelings in with that marriage and that marriage was really damaging emotionally and mentally to me. And I think that has a little bit to do with why I don't care what people think anymore. And I think this stuff's cool.

Like I mentioned my brother and I, I called my brother, you know, I also wanting to get the matching full leg sleeve tattoo, Bigfoot theme. and him and I have talked about it a lot and I was stationed with the state police in John Day from the beginning of 2016 to September of 2017. Beginning of September was when I transferred to Central Oregon. And there was a jail deputy. I won't mention his name. I don't think he would care, but I'll just say Pete.

that's his, we'll just say that's his first name. Pete and I talked a lot. Pete coached me in middle school football. He watched me in high school football. And patrolling the John Day area is extremely boring. My first station was in Hermiston, which is northeast Oregon by Pendleton. And it's along the freeway. And there's a lot of cartel stuff up there. There's a lot of farmland I can go patrol out into up there. And the biggest city, Hermiston, in my patrol area, I think it's, the time was like 17,000 people, which sounds small to a lot of people, but I grew up in a town of 2,000 people. And it was the only stoplight in John Day. That's the only stoplight in the entire

county. That's not a small county. So patrolling in John Day was extremely boring compared to my first station when I was a young gung-ho trooper of Hermiston. And so a lot of my time, I worked a night shift almost my entire career, and so on John Day, after 9 p.m., it was absolutely dead. Like, I remember nights where I might see two cars from 9 p.m. till 2 a.m., which was the end of my shift. And so there were many nights when I would just go into the jail where Pete worked and several other guys that I knew from growing up in John Day. And I'd grab one or two cups of coffee and we'd just sit and talk. and Pete had two stories that really stood out to me. He had two experiences.

One was personal. One was from a neighboring hunting group that they always camped right next to. And he grew up in the Prospect Oregon area, and he hunted out there. And I want to say he was like 18 years old. He told me a story about how he would walk miles into the woods. wilderness. And when you go into the wilderness back in Aspect area, that's western Oregon, where the timber is really, really dense, really thick.

Like, you can't hardly walk five steps without having to redirect because there's a tree or a bush or something. Like, a lot of people think Oregon and they think, oh, rain. But the east side of the Cascade Mountains, the east, like two-thirds of the state is really dry mountainous. And, I mean, there's a lot of forests, but it's not as thick. the western side of the state. And he mentioned, like, he used to go miles into the woods.

And he was walking into this hunting area. He was probably like a mile and a half in. And he came out of this little clearing on top of this little knoll. And he said he got that really weird sixth sense feeling. Not necessarily that he was being watched, but that there was just something off. And it kind of, the sunlight was able to get into this area a little bit and he said I looked to my right and there was this wall of branches and it was like 12 feet high

and he said he walked up to it it looked like something that would be like meticulously man-made because you think of like a log cabin like Lincoln logs when we were kids that you'd play with like you stack them in the corners there's not just where these logs lay into each other and they cross he said but Ethan all of these sticks that were like six to eight inches thick were not sawed they were broken whereas it had to have been something big that had broken the ends of these

I would call them logs he called them sticks because trees over in that area easily get six to eight feet in diameter and he's like these things were way bigger than what any man can break in half and they were interlined and it was just a wall

and he's like the smell in there was god awful which is something that I've, from what I've gathered from all the Bigfoot stories I've delved into the things stink and I don't want to talk bad about any people because life brings challenges but I have had homeless people in my patrol car

and there's just an odor that is unmistakable to a human being who hasn't showered. And I've heard that correlated with the smell of a Sasquatch or Bigfoot. And he mentioned the smell. And he was like, I had to get out of there because when I realized those were not hand-sawed or machine-shawn branches and that they very obviously were broken, he's like, I knew no man could do that. And the fact that they were arranged and stacked as a wall, not just like a pile of lumber.

He's like, I knew that there was something to that that was outside of anything that I've ever experienced or could explain. And he hunted near the same area that I hunted in. He hunted in the, it would either be the murderers' crick hunting unit or the Sylvie's hunting unit, which is just on the south side of Strawberry Mountain, the South Blues Range. and he camped in a big camp with the same people every year. There was like 12 people that camped every year together. And there was this group that camped the next road up that was just like 60 yards above them. And because they had camped there, the majority of his adult life with the same people, they met these people that camped near them.

And it just so happened to be the same group of people, not from our area, that camped in that same spot every year. and this conversation would have happened early 2017. And he mentioned it was like two years before that. So it was the end of one evening hunting. He jumped on his four-wheeler and rode up there. And this whole crew of people were like in a panic backing their stuff. And it wasn't anywhere near the end of the hunting season.

And he's like, guys, what's going on? Did you tag out? They're like, no, we're leaving. And he could tell that there was like a ton of fear in their voice. And he's like, what's up? And they're like, let's just say we're not alone out here. The guy he talked to, he's like, I can't tell you what we saw, but just know, we're not alone up here. And Pete, he's, the guy didn't say we saw Bigfoot, you know, but Pete's like,

I know that's what it was. And he said, Ethan, they didn't come back last year. Like, every year we saw these people and they haven't been back. And there's one other group. It's a big family. They're very well known in the John Day area. And I worked for them for about three months after I fought fire in that area. And I had heard they had an experience, which would be within about 50 miles of where Pete camped when he had this, you know, whatever his camping neighbors experience they had.

But this family, husbands and wives all get tags. They all hunt. The wives shoot animals. The kids shoot animals like it's a big family yearly thing. They scout months in advance. Like it's part of their life. and I talked

When we were working one day I was like, hey, I heard that you had a Bigfoot experience. He says, now, I can't say that it was Bigfoot, but I can't say that it could possibly be anything else.

And I was like, well, what happened? He said, well, my wife, she shot an elk, and it was late at night.

And my brother was near, where she was. So she radioed like, hey, I got an elk on the ground on top of a little clear knoll that was surrounded by trees. And on the north side of this little knoll, there was a really steep, really steep hill that climbed just on, you know, he had to go through a few trees, a couple, you know, a few yards, and then that hill went almost straight up. And so his brother went to where his wife was and I started processing the elk, you know, skinning it, gutting it, getting it ready for the rest of the crew to come help back it out.

And they kept hearing noises circling them. And he said they would look and they would see these branches moving, but it was like whatever was there had just moved from the spot that they looked. They never actually saw it. And so it got to the point where they sat back to back with a tiny little like warming fire next to them. They were sitting back to back with. their pistols out. And this is bow season. So, you know, you're not carrying a rifle or something that can take down a big game animal with minimal shots, you know. And they were in a panic, in fear, sitting back to back pistol strong, radioing to their family. Like, there's something out here. We need you guys here soon. And so they sat there for several minutes. Never could actually get a glimpse of whatever it was that was circling them. And whatever it was, they could tell had moved to where that really, really steep hill was.

And all of a sudden, this like blood-curdling shriek, and I've heard cougars squeal, and they've heard many cougars squeal. It's like a really loud high-pitched squeal. And he's like, it wasn't that. This was like a roar, like growl. And whatever it was, like, screamed at them from deep. and then they said we heard it, it blasted up that steep incline. And it went so fast.

They could hear the sticks and rocks and everything going up. It went so fast, faster than what they would think an animal could move. And then it screamed again from the top of this and then busted over the back side and it was going. And that story really caught my attention. It has always piqued my interest. I think about it all the time because I've heard that,

you know, like the guardian of nature, supposedly. People think that. I'm like, okay, they shot an elk, and it's probably pissed off that they killed an animal out there, you know. And he tells the story in a really good detail, but like the fact that it went so fast up this incline that would take us forever to climb up.

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sitting on the ground with their pistols out. That was just pretty wild to me. And the little bit that I've dove in the big. foot stories like the scream I mean people they're lucky to see it but like I've heard so many stories about like there was something there but we couldn't explain it and anyway those are like the most detailed third-hand stories that I can tell it's it's always been wild to me that there's there's a lot of big foot stories and experiences from in that area of the southern blue mountains in eastern Oregon. And the fact that those two and the few other

stories that I've heard, they're all within like a 50 mile radius of that area. And it's kind of like my family's ranch is right in that area and kind of the center of that radius or that area of these stories that I've heard. And on one of your posts on TikTok, you asked about like other crazy areas in Oregon that people need to check out if you're into this stuff. Like, if you ever get a chance to go to Sumter Organ, you really need to deep dive into the mines in Sumter Organ, because there's a lot of pretty wild haunting stories. It's, it's very well known in that area that the mines in Sumter are haunted. And Granite Organ, like, I just, someone just responded today to one of my comments, speaking of Granite Organ. It's like, I tell people that you go, like,

to the middle of nowhere and you go 50 more miles and you can find green. It's almost like the hills have eyes back there. And I had one call in my entire year and a half that I patrolled that area. And I had one call that was in granite. And it was the weirdest feeling you drive into this town. And it's only like four or five houses. And it's like as soon as you're all into town. I'm used to people.

You know, like when I roll in in a patrol car, you get the outside. eyes, people stare, you know, but this was way, this was different. It was crazy. And granted, is very close to Sumter, too. And there's a lot of Bigfoot stories around area, too, that, you know, when I came across your page, I'm like, man, now that I'm not with State Police and I have a little time on my hands, I'd love to kind of dive into some of the stuff. But, you know, go investigate some of those areas. And, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, those are some extremely interesting stories. It would be, Really cool to hear.

So there's a website you can go to that's really good. It's called Bigfoot. It's a Bigfoot mapping project, and it's the whole map of the whole U.S., but there's all these Bigfoot reports all over the place. And people submit and they're from different databases. And be interesting if you're able to check out that website and look at the different areas that you've been talking about and just to see if there's, especially the hunting area to see if there's been other things reported in that area as well.

Well, something I'd like to make note of going back to my bear hunting spot is it's right, it's like a few miles from the boundary of the Warm Springs Indian Reservation. Okay, got you. In my, I'm sure that you can corroborate this, but in my little bit of diving into the, bigfoot things there's like a lot of native american cave paintings of bigfoot or of things that resemble that like yeah the petroglyphs yeah yeah yes yes you are you are correct they are uh they're in different places in the pacific northwest and some of them are not publicly known either i've interviewed an individual and he's like yeah he knows a sum and and you're not supposed to to tell where they are, but the Warm Springs Reservation, I've heard of things happening on that reservation.

I haven't been able to interview anyone yet from that area. But, I mean, what is that? That area is O'Lolly Lake, I believe, has a lot of, there's some reports around there, and that's just on the edge of the reservation as well. It's a little north of Mount Jefferson. but, you know, when you were, and, yeah, I'll ask a question, and you can, your course, refuse any questions if you want to, but when you were a state trooper,

were there any times where you had gotten a call where someone was like, hey, I've got a big foot messing around my property, I don't know what to do. Did you guys ever get pulled into anything like that or heard of anything similar? I never did personally. I don't, you know, there's a couple game troopers that really put in a lot of proactive work out in the woods. The crazy thing about OSP is like you can kind of be as proactive as you want, depending on the area you work in. Like if you work in the Portland area, you're just responding to calls all the time.

A lot of times you don't really have time to go be proactive and look for stuff. Whereas a lot of more remote areas like John Day, you don't get a lot of calls for service. So you're really like itching to find something. So you are a lot more proactive trying to find things anyways. But I don't recall any stories from anyone or reports along those lines. If I saw something, I definitely wouldn't call and report it to a state police agency. like I would be more likely to tell my friends than I would to report it

because there's a lot of, I would say more people probably don't believe that Bigfoot exists than there are people that do or maybe you won't say that you believe he exists but you actually might believe a little bit but I don't recall any reports whether they were actually directed and live or any reports that there were stories of. I used to train, I used to teach at the academy.

For seven years of my career, I taught what's called defensive tactics. It's like hand-in-hand combatants and patrol tactics and a lot of scenario-based stuff. And so there's a lot of different training groups where when you go to teach, you work with, you know, 20 various different troopers at different times, and there's a lot of time per stories and shooting the crap and just, you know, venting or telling stories about what you had go on last week.

And I never had any stories like that told in those instances, but I would bet money that there are stories along those lines. I'm actually, I'm really good friends with a trooper still that works down in the Cous Bay area. and he lives and breathes hunting and he's a fish and game trooper. So he started his patrol and he laterled over to a fish and game spot. And so now he's out in the woods all the time. And we're friends with another trooper that's down in the Burns area.

And he grew up hunting the Steams Mountain areas, which I've heard there's a lot of experiences down in the Steens. If you've never been to the Steens, just aside for Bigfield, It's one of the most beautiful places on Earth. But as far as your studies and stories and investigations, that would be a cool place to look into. But I'm going to reach out to those guys and see if they haven't experienced anything, see if they've heard of anything or they've got stories or reports that they can speak on. I would imagine the individual over by Cus Bay has,

has some stuff. That area is bonkers. I've talked to a few individuals in that area is just crazy for Bigfoot stuff for some reason. So you've been referring to the videos on my

page. A lot of listeners are going to be confused because they're not even aware of the TikTok side of Bigfoot Society. And yeah, we have a TikTok page where I do and that's where I put weird stuff out there. So if you're into that,

if you want to hear weird stories about Oregon, in addition to Bigfoot, check out. It's like Bigfoot. Dot Society on TikTok. You check it out. I'll put a link in the show notes. Anyways,

but another, this is a weird question to the side, but since you're familiar with the page and you've seen the stuff I've put out, I don't even know if you have any info regarding this, but is the stuff that people report about Wolf Creek do you think that's accurate or some of that might be blown out of proportion?

I mean, do you know anything about that area at all? I'm not very familiar with the Wolf Creek area. I know that I saw one or two videos on your page. I scanned through your page a couple of times, mostly looking, because you've got a lot of organ stuff on there, which is really cool. And that's kind of what sucked me into that one, because I saw your Settle Lake video, commented on it, And then you responded fairly quickly.

I was like, oh, that's cool. Like, I don't often get interaction from other pages I comment on, you know, especially, I mean, especially from the person himself. And so I dove into your page, and I kind of scanned past stuff that was in different states, just looking to see, like, what else is there in Oregon that he's reported on, that you've reported on? And I'm not familiar with the Wolf Creek area, though. can you give me like a town that that's near? It's like way, it's over in the west.

It's right off I-5, but it's kind of like north of Grants Pass. Oh, okay. No, I mean, Roseburg Grants Passed. I've heard that there's a lot of wild stuff, so that wouldn't surprise me at all. I know that Chiliquin, which is down 97 north of Claimeth Falls, that's another area that is kind of, of like due east of what sounds like the area you're talking about. That, I mean, I would think those areas would be stocked full of crazy stories. I've patrolled down, so I patrolled Central Oregon from September 2017 until I was actually,

I was placed on leave with OSP in September of 2021. I spoke out against the mandates for COVID, and that's what, that's the reason I left OSP. I was actually let go from OSP because I voiced out against the mandates in the social media video. And so that would be four years' time that I patrolled Highway 97. And my first year in Central Oregon, I was stationed. I was assigned to the Lapine office, which is an outpost of the Bend Area Command. and September of 2018, I literally just traded spots with a trooper and bend, and we traded radio numbers.

But for that year, I patrolled a lot south of the pine. And I got quite a few calls back off the beaten path. And what's crazy to me, like, I mean, I grew up in a small town area where I know, like, granite and Sumter, and a lot of these little towns that are kind of back in, in the woods that, I mean, you'd never know they exist if you just drove some of these main highways. But such a busy highway like Highway 97, the typical person just kind of drives from point A to point B. It was cool getting to work as a trooper. And even though your patrol, like a lot of people see the Oregon State Police as highway patrol,

but it's much different than I would say 9 out of 10 or 90% of the other highway patrol state agencies where OSP you have a lot of freedom to go patrol county roadways and city streets and actually when I was stationed to bend for the three years that I was stationed out of the area command bend I patrolled in town a lot because I enjoyed hunting for DUIs and getting drunk people off the road And so I patrolled areas where drunk people frequented like bars and clubs. But I really enjoyed on a not so rare occasion, I would go south of Lapline, or like when I worked in John Day, I'd venture way out near Sumter and south past Seneca, Oregon down into the Sylvie's area. And I would go back several miles on dirt roads as long as I was in radio,

connectivity. I'd go way off the beaten path just to explore. And it's exciting, but kind of eerie, the number of houses that live off the land. And like, I mean, I would love to go live off the land and be kind of a homesteader out in the middle of nowhere. But there's a lot of people that are perfectly sane and just want to be away. But there's a lot of kind of eerie, crazy people that live out in these places. And when I think about like Chilliquin and what sounds like the Wolf Creek area is, and off the path, you know, I would say between Highway 97 and Interstate 5, between like Roseburg and Chilaquin and Grants Passa area,

like where a crater lake is, I've heard there's a lot of wild stuff out near Crater Lake and Diamond Lake. And there's a lot of crazy stuff that you see out there. And I can't tell you how many times I would be out in the middle of nowhere and I just pull off the road and take a breather, eat a power bar, you know, and stretch my legs, you know, and then all of a sudden someone would come walking up from the middle, from absolutely nowhere. And you're, and scare the crap out of you, you know, been several times, even on the highway where I'm out in a remote middle of nowhere on a state highway or a state route. And I always cracked my window, took my seatbelt off, just kind of safety precautions. So if there was someone that locked up, I could get out of my car quickly and kind of be in a position of a little more control than being stuck in, like, a little fatal position kind of as, I can't remember the exact terminology we used, but like being stuck in your car. On this episode of plant killers, we'll explore one nation's most notorious fruit and vegetable killer, bad dirt. What makes bad dirt so bad? The answer? The ingredients. But fear not true crime enthusiasts. This story has a happy ending. Miracle grow organic raised bed and garden soil. It's made with quality

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And so oftentimes I would either crack my window or like open my door just enough where I could stick my foot out on the ground and the door wasn't swung all the way open but just cracked open you know so I could step out if I needed to. I can tell you how many times just people would randomly walk up to you in the middle of nowhere, miles from anything. And yeah. Would they be like hikers or just just dressed up? All kinds of people. I mean, not like dressed up, but like, yeah, I've been.

And there's been times I was caught off guard. Like you let your guard down. You get kind of complacent. And I'd be sitting in the middle of nowhere. In the middle of the night, like I said, I worked at the late shift where and all of a sudden there's a knock on my passenger window and you just about mess your pants. you know, and jump out of your car. They're like, hey, sorry, sorry, I was just,

I broke down down the road. And, man, it gets the heart going. That's a good wake-up call. Like, dude, I got to, like, take my nose out of my phone or, like, I need to be more aware. No, it was all kinds of different people. There was, yeah, I've had my heart restarted several times. I get a lot of interesting,

things sent to me or hey did you hear about this and from what it sounds like in i don't know if this is anything you ever ran into but i mean that area are are there a ton of missing people that go missing in that area as well especially like lane county or you know kind of i guess if you would call that central oregon um that that's considered western oregon Okay. There's a little bit of Lane County that bleeds kind of to this side of Lane or Lynn County. I can't remember that kind of bleeds to this side of the Cascade Mountains. But yeah, if you look at a map of Oregon, you have, I think it's, I think it's Gillum County, Jefferson County, Deshutes County, Claimath County, north to south.

The west border of those counties is basically along the Cascade Mountain Range. Gotcha. Anything west of that is considered Western Oregon. Anything east of that is essentially eastern Oregon. And Western Oregon is wet. Eastern Oregon is dry. It's the high desert. But there's a lot of forested mountainous areas that people don't know exist.

Like you think, a lot of people think organ's either wet or desert. If you venture to kind of northeastern to like central eastern Oregon, there's a lot of beautiful blue mountains, greenery. It's a beautiful area. But I don't know that I would be able to say that there's more missing persons in that area than any other part of the state. I think people just probably hear about it more because that's a much more populated part of the state. The western side of the state is way more populated. That's where, like, you have Portland, you have Beaverton, Salem, Eugene, like all the bigger cities are on the western side of the state.

Gotcha. That makes sense. And it's kind of like Bigfoot sightings, too. You know, in order to have a big foot sighting, you have to have people so that they can report what was seen. So that makes sense. But, uh, well, and a lot, there's a, and like growing up in John Day, we always hated, we called them Portland hunters or California hunters. Like, there's a lot of people from California and the western side of the state that comes to eastern Oregon. It was published in a magazine several years ago that the Grant County area was one of the most concentrated areas of L.

in the nation and hunting just blew up in that area and and there's lots of stories like there's a lot of wild horses out in that area too and there's stories of people driving through town with a horse in the back of their truck like thinking it's an elk and people with beer in the back of their truck that they hadn't even got it or skinned which i mean the meat's going to be no good by the time they get back to wherever they're going um and that's that's more so why we as i say we like Eastern Oregon folks, like, why we kind of dislike or have an edge towards the Portland hunters quote or, like, the California hunters, because it's usually, like, no fault to you. Like, I love that you get into it, but know what you're doing if you're going to get into hunting.

Like, if you want to get into conservation and hunting and feed your family, like, at least know what you're shooting, you know. And, I mean, I've seen a horse in the back of a pickup going through it down because they shot a horse thinking was a cow elk. Oh my goodness. That is insane. Yeah, it's crazy. And they shoot cows. Like there's been cows that the rancher will come out and be like, what the heck? Oh, I got an elk, you know? Oh, like an actual cow.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that stuff happens. And they actually think they shot an elk, which, I mean, you kind of feel bad for them, but you want to just like pick them up and shake them. Yeah. Know what you're doing, you know. Oh, my goodness. I mean, there's a lot of people that get shot, too, because, and that's, and that's, you know, and that's, I'm not going to say that's just Portland or Valley hunters or California hunters. Like there's a lot of people that, you know, they see movement. And that's why the hunter orange thing became a thing. Like my family grew up wearing blue jeans and red and black plaid flannel shirts hunting.

You know, and like my brother-in-law, who grew up in Prairie City and is an avid hunter, like their family always wore camo. And I shot a six-point bull when I was in high school. I was wearing a red Ereposal zippered hoodie and blue jeans. And I got within 60 yards of this elk and it didn't even know I was there and I shot it with the rifle. And, you know, it's a pretty nice bowl. That's not a trophy by any means. But, you know, there's a lot of people that are like,

oh, you got to have camo and this and that. But like one thing you definitely do not do is wear like brown car hearts or like a tan jacket or there are people that will just see a color and shoot at it. And there was a guy on a four-wheeler just a few years ago that got shot. out like in the ankle because someone from a distance saw something moving and they shot out it and it was a guy riding a four-wheeler through the trees.

Oh, wow. Oh, my goodness. This is some crazy, crazy stuff. Ethan, it's been such an interesting conversation, especially from your viewpoint of your background of being law enforcement in these areas of Oregon. I just want to say thank you for coming forward. for sharing what you experienced. You know, before we do head out,

if there are also other individuals that are listening that might be some form of law enforcement, but they also have had a Bigfoot experience, do you have any words for them, why it might be important for them to share what they've experienced or any advice regarding that? I mean, there's a lot of people that explore the forest. There's a lot of hunters. And a lot of these stories stop with either the person or like the few people that they tell about it.

And I mean, I think Bigfoot exists. I'm very convinced that it exists. There wouldn't be cave paintings and sightings all over, like not just the Pacific Northwest, but like all over the nation. And I mean, there's, I think the Yeti exists. I think it's just a version of a Sasquatch, you know, like over in the Himalayas.

Like, I think there are, I mean, they find creatures in rainforests and in the ocean, and regular forested areas that haven't been documented yet all the time. So, like, you think about how smart a human being is. I think we've gotten a lot dumber over time. I mean, there's a lot of geniuses out there, but I think as a whole, human beings have gotten kind of dumbed down because of technology and our reliance on different things.

And, I mean, I see no reason why there couldn't be something that's very brilliant like we are just in its own way and able to avoid being cited. But I don't see why people seeing them is such a crazy thing. And so, like, if you have seen them, like, it's no risk to your job to talk about it. Like, I would love for other just law enforcement personnel or, like, military personnel in general, to reach out to you and tell their stories because, like, there's obviously groups of people that go out and search for this and research Sasquatch, and there's the TV shows made on it,

and like the Harry Man in Alaska. Like, I think that's just Sasquatch or in other form of or a relative or whatever. And, I mean, they find, they find, like, seashells on mountaintops. Like, fossils of seashells on mountaintops all the time, which means there was some point. And, like, the world's changed.

And I believe that all continents were connected. They look like puzzle pieces to me. So why wouldn't they be interconnected at some point? I can't remember what they call, where they think all the continents were connected. What was that? Is it panchia? Pangia, yeah. Yeah.

I'm like, you know, they look like puzzle pieces that broke apart at one point. So why wouldn't the yet he also be related to Sasquatch from some ancient time, you know? and there's an area that's really intrigued me that's down south of Jun Tura, Oregon, where it's like super, super deep canyons. I think it's one of the biggest canyon systems, second or third to the Grand Canyon, that is so remote and difficult to get to. Like, if so few people have gone there, who knows what many animals are in there that we haven't documented.

I've wanted to be able to find the time to go fly a drone down there at minimum and fly end of the canyon and see what I can get video out of it. And like they talk about these government areas of the Grand Canyon that are closed off because of supposed to giants and these caves and things that are in the caves and

I mean they've found bone structures of giants so why couldn't there be a Sasquatch out there and why not talk about it if you've seen it or experience like for me I didn't see it but I'm pretty dang sure it was something that was very brilliant, very smart in its own way that survived for however long that knew to stay back in the trees just enough

and communicated in its own way to whatever was down near the waterhole that I hunted. And, I mean, it was very obvious they were communicating back and forth. They knew what was being communicated. You know, I kind of like to think it was like an adult that was nearest that was communicating down to something less experienced or younger or that whatever, you know, this thing up here how to protect that it was telling it, hey, move along, quietly, keep moving, are you moving, keep going,

you know, communicating back and forth. And then dead silence. So who knows if it even moved from the place that it was standing when we finally decided to be brave or dumb, whatever you want to call it to go get our memory cards.

I see no reason not to talk about it because who cares what other people think. Like you're not, especially as a law enforcement officer, you're not going to lose your God, talking about Bigfoot. I agree. I agree. I agree.

About other dumb stuff, but. Right. Would you ever want to have a sighting yourself one day, you think? Oh, yeah. I mean, I think it would be awesome to see it. You know, I have four kids, and I'm, you know, starting a business right now, and so I'm extremely busy. So I would love to find time in my life to go, like I said, you know, that big canyon system,

or Juntura, or just as simple as the area that I've hunted growing up, or this area that I bear hot, like, I would love to have a weekend where I just grab a buddy of mine who I know can shoot well if we need to, you know, but to go spend a weekend and just backpack in and listen and look. And aside from it being really intriguing to me, I mean, it's really good for you just to get out and breathe and breathe in the air. But I'm sure it would freak me out if I saw. saw it, but I mean, there's that saying that's overused.

I think you only live once, so why not? Go try to see things. Even if you're not looking for Bigfoot, just go try to see elk, try to see animals, deer, bear, whatever it is. You know, but I think it'd be awesome. You know, I think that, I think people going missing could be because of Sasquatch,

you know, maybe they come across something or see it and, like, it takes you out. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know, but, I see no reason not to go look for it. If I ever find time in my life, I would love to go spend weeks at a time and just explore and try to find them, you know, him or her or they, them, whatever. Absolutely. The big feat.

Exactly. I hope someday you're able to get that opportunity. But Ethan, thank you so much for coming on the show and for sharing. Well, and if you ever get an itch to go explore that eastern Oregon area or even this. area in central Oregon. I look for any excuse to get out. And I mean, I've given many different friends info to my hunting areas, you know, to the point of dropping a pan on a map. Hey, this is where I want to hunt. I'm not going to get to this year. Go check it out so you can get an elk, you know, like, there's a lot of hunters that are like, nope, that's my spot. I'm not telling anyone. But, you know,

beyond that, if you ever want to go explore that area, if you, I don't know if you do, but if you do actually go out and try to investigate and get out in camp and whatever, dude, I'd love to take you out and grab a buddy or two and go explore and walk a few miles and have a campfire and tell stories and make video, whatever it be. Any excuse to get out in the woods, like I said, I've got four kiddos and I have a small farm with some cows that I take care of, but any excuse to get out and be in nature. is awesome and especially if it's someone that has similar interests and the fact that you travel around to get the kind of search for this stuff and hear stories and I could probably rope at least

Pete into telling you his story firsthand. There's another story of a guy out in that area that's pretty, he's a reasonable guy, he's not a crazy dude, you know, but I didn't tell his story because it does sound kind of goofy, but I could possibly see if you could tell him. It's so brilliant. He supposedly saw Bigfoot himself. But I know very little details about that story. I just know that that story is very well known over there. Okay, gotcha.

So that would be cool to be able to maybe arrange a sit down with a couple of these people for you. But even just going out and exploring would be cool. Well, that's a very nice offer. I appreciate it. I'll definitely keep it in mind. You never know what will happen. but, you know, yeah, Ethan has been real fun chatting with you tonight about different experiences around Oregon. And definitely, you know, keep in touch if anything else happens in the future, if you hear anything, you know, we'd love to hear from you again.

Will do. I appreciate your time. Hi. My name is Mani Guerrero. I'm from South Jersey. And I just heard your latest podcast. I believe his name was Jacob, the Pine Barriers. And I had an encounter what I believe was Sasquots in 1987, I believe, in Fairford Township. That's why I grew up at. Yeah, I had my local Boy Scout that I was in. We had a weekend camp or a dad's place.

And like I said, we lived in the woods, Fairford Township. and that's connected to, well, it's like 20 miles from the West Park on Amar Road. So it's real close. Yeah, give me a call. Thanks. If you'd like to share a voicemail to be potentially featured on the show as well, head over to Bigfoot Societypodcast.com and hit the share your encounter button. I just wanted to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

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