Bigfoot Society - It Touched My Head Through the Tent! | Idaho
Episode Date: October 27, 2025In this multi-part, high-strangeness episode, we sit down with Gina and Steve from Idaho, a museum staffer from Cherry Log, GA, and others who’ve all had direct and chilling encounters with Sasquatc...h — and more.You’ll hear:Gina and Steve’s encounters across Idaho, including a screaming Sasquatch in the South Hills, a tent-side head touch near Idaho City, and a terrifying Dogman leaping onto a truck in Idaho Falls.Cherry Log, GA residents reporting porch sightings, vocal mimicry, and a Bigfoot mistaken for a bear.A roar encounter in a wooded park on the edge of Atlanta.A military vet’s face-to-face sighting of a camouflaged Sasquatch on hunting land in Alabama.Enjoy this intense episode of Bigfoot Society!🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072
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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters
from people who say they've seen something impossible,
from backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet,
farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more
questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in, because
today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society, you've got the privilege of talking to Gina and Steve
today. Gene and Steve are a couple that I reached out to through a comment that I saw on Facebook,
and we got connected that way.
They're out there in Idaho.
They've had some interesting things happen over the years.
Welcome to the show, Gene and Steve.
How are you guys doing today?
Thank you. Wonderful.
Doing great.
Fantastic.
Definitely had some interesting conversations about Idaho in the past,
so it'll be interesting to see where this conversation takes us as well out there.
But guys, we did talk about before the show.
started is that I think it would be best if we went through this chronologically. And so we'll have
you start with what you think that the first experience that you may have had out there is.
Okay. It started in the bicentennial day of the United States. It was around 1998.
That show was no, it would be 77. I was about 13. And me and four of my friends were walking
west of my hometown. This is in New York, up between the St. Orange River.
and the Adironic Mountains.
And we were headed west to a bridge that's a popular hangout,
and we would hike up the road, which was abandoned and tore up,
or the railroad tracks.
So this day we decided to take the tracks to the bridge,
and we got about two-thirds of the way there,
it's only about a mile and a half walk from town to this bridge,
And down the tracks, it was a section that was straight as an arrow for quite a ways,
and it's heavily wooded.
That part of the state's pretty heavily wooded.
We saw something about a quarter mile up the tracks that crossed the tracks in two steps.
It was on two legs.
It was very large.
And we all stopped because we were totally flabbergasted by what we saw.
And we didn't elaborate on anything.
We just all agreed that it was time to head back to town.
It was in the summer, early afternoon, and that's that one.
So that's my first time I saw anything.
My second experience was I was camping alone in a tent near Idaho City,
which is just southeast of Boise a bit.
And I was solo camping.
I was in the creek area.
This was in 1987, and I went to sleep, and about 4 o'clock in the morning.
I didn't hear any noises, no thumping around or anything, but I had something grabbed my head through the tent.
And in those days, the dome tents were really small, so your head was up against the wall of the tent, if that makes sense.
And I felt something grabbed my head and pull away really fast.
and it happened four or five times within about, I'd probably say about five minutes.
And it was still dark out, and I attributed that to probably rodent or squirrel, something like that.
But later on, hearing other people's stories about being touched to cat walls, I went, that's probably what I, that's probably what it was, because it wouldn't be anything that early in the morning walking around it.
I wouldn't think so, but anyhow, if you have any questions about that, feel free.
Absolutely.
So when you say it grabbed your head, was it like it was trying to palm your head, like a basketball,
or it was like a small hand that was just trying to like gently?
I felt several digits touch my head at the same time, so it was more like a grasping touch.
But the more I think about it, have you ever seen like a chimpanzee or something,
touch something real quick and pull their hand back?
Yeah.
It was like that.
And there was no noise, no odor, nothing.
Other than that, I went back to sleep and I woke up.
That was my second kind of retrospect experience that I had.
So what was your, it's pretty wild that happened four to five times at all, really.
I've been a situation in a tent where something was walking around outside,
and that pretty much made me just made me go,
nuts. How is your emotional state when you were experiencing something touching your head throughout the tent?
I was just, go away. Leave me alone. Shush, get. But another thing, too, that's important is I don't think there was any noise because the area I had my tent pitched on was very mossy. It was creek side.
So it was like a lot of watercress and water moss. It was dry, but it was very comfortable. And that's why I decided to set my tent up there for the evening.
I didn't hear anything or smell anything.
It was just, it was weird, but I attributed it to just a nuisance at the time.
I didn't think of what else it could have been, but over the years, listening to other people's experiences on your podcast and others, that that might not been a rodent that night.
Yeah, absolutely.
And so you mentioned that it was a mossy area.
Did you notice anything out of the ordinary in the area around your campsite when you got up the next day?
There were no tracks. My camp gear was undisturbed. I really didn't see anything out of the ordinary.
To give you a little background, I served in the military. I'm a combat veteran. I'm an avid outdoorsman.
I was trained in survival by one of the TV celebrity survivalists. I don't know what is going on, but at the time, it was just seeking for the obvious of what it could be.
And I didn't feel bothered. It wasn't scared. I didn't have any.
overwhelming emotions or feelings going through my body at the time other than the fact that
I got woke up when I was sleeping good.
Absolutely.
So that background makes more sense than why you weren't really freaked out because you were
trained to deal with high pressure, high stress situations is what it sounds like.
Did you have any bruising on your head at all that you noticed the next day?
No.
No, it was very gentle.
It was like I wasn't any more forceful than.
you touching a basketball sitting on the ground, just touching it.
It was just a touch, a really small squeeze, and then a quick withdrawal.
And it happened four or five times.
Have you been back to that area ever?
No, I've moved away from that area since then.
But as we progressed later on, there are a few areas I just won't.
I won't go back into it.
I would probably go back up there again.
I don't think I'd be, I don't think I'd feel bad about going back in there.
Absolutely.
Steve, that's quite a way to start things off for you.
And you're citing in 76, so you saw something on two legs crossed the tracks.
Did you notice any details about the thing that was crossing the tracks in front of you?
It was really large.
We all stopped.
We didn't say, our eyes were like wide open looking at each other.
What the heck was that?
And if you look at a set of railroad tracks,
You have the tracks themselves, which are what, probably about six feet wide, and then you've got eight foot of gravel on either side of those rails going back into the forest.
That thing walked across the tracks in two steps.
It just looked weird to us, and it was big.
And like I said, it was a straight shot, so it was like we were looking through kind of like a trees don't cover the tracks at all, but it was like looking through a keyhole.
It was just, it was there.
We all saw it, and it was, it really.
freaked us out, but we just stopped, didn't discuss it, turned around, and walked off. And we were
12 or 13 years old. There was a couple guys older to me, a couple younger than me, but we all
just looked at each other and decided that it would be a good idea to turn around and walk back
to town. Absolutely. How far away from you guys was it again? About a quarter of a mile
down the tracks. Okay. Gotcha. But you could see it. It was like a straight shot down the tracks,
and you can see forever on those things.
Oh, absolutely.
So it's very interesting stuff right off the bat.
Feel free to continue, guys.
My next one was in the mid-90s,
and this one's kind of going to be a little more intense
than the other one,
and the reason being that the area has a history.
So I was in the South Hills of Idaho at the time.
My first Idaho experience I lived in,
I was stationed at Mountain Home Air Force Base,
and I was living in Boise.
I was going to school, and so I'd commute.
Later on in life, I was in the Mnacaja area, which would be Cajia County and Minadoka County,
in an area called the South Hills, particularly in a Rockland Canyon, or Rock Creek,
excuse me, Rock Creek Canyon, and it's a pretty heavily used recreation area.
I was a little southeast of that area in an area called Skyline Ridge, and it's a ridge that divides two valleys.
and I was sitting in a crick called Rash Canyon,
or Rash Creek, excuse me, Rash Creek.
And I was sitting on the sagebrush hillside
overlooking a crick.
The creek itself, that was filled with Lake Fulies.
And I was there about a half an hour,
and everything went quiet.
There were no birds, no bugs, nothing.
And the weird thing was, the air got very,
stifled. It was kind of like being a donut in one of those donut glass cover things that you see in
diners. It was just stifled. And the air, the light had like a very light hue of yellow, kind of like a
watered-down lemonade color. It was really weird. And so I was sitting there just waiting for the deer
to come up and down through the crick bed because it was hunting. And I had a cantaloupe sized
rock land to my right by about 20 feet and it thumped and rolled down into down the hill into the
creek bed so i automatically thought someone was messing with me and so i stood up and i turned around
and yelled hey knock it off i'm trying to hunt leave me alone whatever and as i when i stood up to do that
i witnessed another rock a slightly smaller lobbed out of the tree line which was about 75
feet behind me where the first rock came from, right? I don't know where the first rock came from.
It could have been the same spot. I wasn't looking at. I just saw it land and rolled down the hill.
So the smaller rock comes out. It was lobbed out of the trees. I heard some stomping around a little
bit, and I got really nervous, so I chambered around in my rifle, excuse me, and I immediately started
walking back down the trail, back to my four-wheeler, which was probably about a quarter-mile,
all the way. And I wanted to know if it was someone messing with me. So I paralleled the trail
in hopes of drawing whatever was behind me to the side of me so I could get a get an eyeball
on it. And that, whatever it was, it knew where I was at the whole time. And when I stopped,
I was screened at.
And I've heard various screens online, and it sounded like a woman just getting gutted.
It was terrible.
And the minute I started moving again, the screaming would stop.
And I just finally tried navigating back to the trail.
I wasn't that far off there, but it was pretty thickety and rocky.
So it was hard to navigate on foot.
And then there was some thumping, like really loud thumping, not like tree thumps,
but like it had a log and it was thumping the ground.
We did, I went up with a friend the next day and we did find a fence post sized log
that looked like it had been beaten on.
But it was thump on the ground like thump that fast.
And I was like, there's no way a man could thump the post on the ground that fast.
It was just, it was ridiculous.
So with that said, I ended up getting back to my four-wheeler, firing it up, high-tailing it out of there.
And I had this sensation that I was being chased.
I just, my, I don't call it spider sense, whatever you want to call, the EB-G-Bs, whatever.
I was like going down the hill way faster than I needed to be going.
But I felt impending doom.
The fear factor was high.
and for me I don't really get spooked by too much,
but that scared the living crap out of me.
I got back to my truck,
and when I got off the four-wheel and shut it off,
I noticed that the atmosphere had changed back to what it was prior to my experience.
The bugs were out, the birds were out,
the color of the air was different,
and so I loaded up my machine, and I got home,
and now that I'm talking about it shakes me up just a little bit thinking about it more so than I have
but that was pretty much it next day me and my friend went up there we went back up on the trail
showed them where I sat we found this like I said it was about a fence post sized piece of log
pine sitting on the trail there was nothing and it was a part of the trail that I had walked up into
then it wasn't there before so I'm assuming and then we found some divvets in the ground from it that
were a couple inches deep and they had to curve the curvature of the log. So something was in there
beaten that's that pole or that piece of wood on the ground and it was pounding it fast. That was
pretty much it for that one. That's some wild stuff, Steve. Your, you're gutsy dude to
to start paralleling whatever that was. I thought it was a human effort. And then when I heard
the screaming, it was like, this is not what I think it is. And
I just need to get my keyster out of here.
There's two areas that are nearby.
All right.
It's a city of rocks national monument.
It's a rock formation monument as unusual rock formations.
And it's also a place where a lot of world-class rock climbers go to climb the various rock features.
Okay.
And then Elba Park and Albion, Mount Harrison, Oakley, those would be some other.
That area is southern Idaho is spread out.
I got it.
Landmarks will probably bounce you in the right area versus towns.
Okay, so it's just on a map it shows up as a pretty big green area underneath Albion.
This whole area we're talking about.
All right, got it.
Cool.
Thank you.
Yeah.
And also historically, on Mount Cleveland, there's like a crater lake up there.
And if you hike up on the backside of that, there's.
There's an old scout camp that used to be up there, and they don't camp up there anymore.
I've heard of stories when I lived down there of things running around up there.
I didn't, at the time, I didn't think too hard on that.
It's just, I deal with the obvious.
I'm a pretty straightforward logical guy.
I just, I don't know, it was just a weird experience that one was.
That was probably my most fearful experience for me personally.
Absolutely.
I'm going to let my wonderful
I'm going to let my wonderful wife cut into our
first camping trip
up to an area.
It's my dogman.
Are you going to do the dog man now?
Yeah, the next one, because that was in order.
So this was prior, this was prior when
me meeting, from me meeting, Steve,
in late 1990s, about around,
I was trying to figure out the area, probably about 97,
some friends and I,
And this is in town.
And we live in Idaho Falls.
And it was in town on not terribly busy street on weekdays, but it's definitely a part of town.
And it's residential.
And then there's some businesses on this older street in town.
And so we were at dinner across town with five of us.
There were five adults, my father and some friends celebrating at dinner.
And I got a phone call from a friend that had a couple of drinks.
that she lived on this older street in this other part of town and asked if I could give her a ride.
She didn't want to drive. And I said, we're finishing up with dinner. I'll have them drop me off there.
And I will drive your vehicle home and they'll pick me up. And she said, okay, so I said,
give me a half hour. We get over there. And there's only street parking and alley parking.
And again, it's an older part of town. So we parked in the back and walked in. I grabbed her.
and they decided to stay and have a quick beer while to give me time to get her home.
So we exited on the street side and she said, oh, I parked two buildings down in the little
parking lot.
So as we're walking down to the parking lot, her truck was in the middle of the parking lot,
the only truck out there.
So we're walking through and as we approach her truck, this thing and it was tangible.
I shake my head because I'm still blown away by this.
it was on two legs and I said don't look at it.
She started screaming and I said, cover your eyes.
Don't look at it.
I had no fear, surprisingly.
And it was walking towards her truck.
It was probably about six to seven feet tall, really lanky, long arms and long fingers.
And I was looking peripheral.
I didn't want to look for some reason.
I just knew not to look in its eyes.
They were reddish.
And so I said, just keep your head on the truck and walk.
calmly and just act like you don't acknowledge it. And then a lot of times I've heard that that
helps. So we walked and in the meantime, she's screaming and covering her eyes and I just told her to
be quiet and not so nice a words. And she's fumbling for her. Reach down and started fumbling for
her keys. And as I'm trying to open the door, she's standing. For some reason, I sensed that this
thing wanted her and I put her behind me and it was still walking.
up towards the truck. And then she notified me that she didn't have the door key to that door.
So we have to back up. I said back up and walk around to the other side. We're not going to run.
We're not going to be scared. And she's just panicking. So I pushed, not pushed her, but guided her
while I was facing that thing, but my head was looking sideways. And I was trying to get a good visual
from my peripheral vision. It was that close. It was probably about 10 feet at that point.
we walked around to the other side of the truck.
This thing was by the tire, and I was three feet from it.
And it was leaping, or not leaving.
It had gone down on all fours, and it was swaying side to side, but obviously intent on looking behind me at her.
It was the strangest thing.
And I was very calm, got her in, and I literally had to walk back around the truck,
and I faced it the whole time.
I backed up, and she opened that.
driver's side, got in. As I got in, this thing leaped up on the hood, and we shut the doors and
locked them. And I, her head was down and I was putting the key in the ignition. And my head was
down. I was trying to look at it through the corner of my eye to get a full visual and get as
many details as possible. The truck was literally lobbying side to side too. That's how much pressure
it was putting. And this lasted for probably about 20 seconds. And in the meantime,
the party that I was with had gotten in the truck and come down the alley and stopped.
The headlights were there and stopped, and they saw it as well.
And it stopped moving and bouncing the truck side to side.
And it leaked clear across the entire parking lot and alley into a residential yard over a fence.
And we have no idea where it went after that.
The truck, I hadn't moved yet.
I was still calm, but wondering what the heck just happened.
And the other truck of the party I was with pulled up.
up and said, what that? What was that? And I said, I don't know. I don't know. I just need to get her home.
Just follow me. So we did that and all the way there. She's, what was that? What was that? What was that? I
said, just, I don't know. We'll talk about it tomorrow. Let's just get you home. Anyway, so we were all
silent. Once I got her home and I got in the truck and they were like, what the heck was that? What
happened? And I said, I don't know. I don't know. I just need to get home. I guess it was my
coping mechanism just to just get home. Once I got inside, I was shaking like crazy. And I spent AOL was the big thing at that time. So I was on
online on my big computer looking at anything and everything to try to figure out what this thing was.
But I did write down the description so I wouldn't forget. And I didn't ever find anything. I looked at chupacabras. I looked at
werewolves and they were just too furry. And I had no idea what this thing was. But since podcasts,
I have heard multiple descriptions that I'm like, I know what it was.
It was a dog man.
I'd never heard of such a thing.
So I'm almost certain that's what it was.
And then she called me the next morning at 5 o'clock in the morning.
Did we see what I thought we saw?
And I said, I don't know.
Why don't you describe to me what you think you saw?
And her description was right online.
It was on Target.
And I said, yes, we did.
So anyway, but that's been, it makes me shake thinking about it.
It's so real.
And I've told the story to friends.
And it's just, I don't know.
I don't know what it was.
And I hope I never see one again.
Wow.
That, man, so dog man is a thing where if it comes up organically in the episode, then I'm cool with it.
I will never, as of right now, I'll never really pursue after it.
But man, it's, I don't know how to handle it because you hear these stories and you're like, there's, I've never heard a good one.
It is always extremely potentially violent or going after the people.
You hear some Bigfoot stories and it's, oh, help my kid who got lost or help get the rock off my leg and I could get back home.
But it doesn't happen in these.
So were you able, three feet away is really close.
Were you able to see facial features?
Yes.
Yes.
I wrote this description down because I was looking online and I wanted to have every detail.
I didn't want to forget anything.
And I can tell you, this thing was long and lengthy.
It had odd legs.
And again, I'm looking peripheral.
Initially, I saw it walking up.
And then I just knew not to look at it.
Once I saw red eyes, I'm like, turn your head.
But I was looking and trying to get every detail I could.
And that close, it had a gray pasty skin.
A lot of skin was showing, but lots of tufts of fur sporadic throughout the whole thing.
The upper arms had fur.
The hands did not have much fur.
and they were really long,
jointy fingers.
And when it got down on all four,
I could see those as it swayed back and forth.
It had a pointy face, chin area.
And it had ears, pointy ears.
It had sparse black fur.
The fur was all black throughout in various areas.
And then the skin again, pasty gray.
It had the red eyes.
I didn't see teeth.
It wasn't like snarling or anything.
And it didn't make noise that was anything noteworthy, just hearing it breathe.
It didn't growl.
And I felt like I almost like it couldn't see me.
It wasn't allowed to, it was the strangest thing.
I felt very protected.
And I was calm and my voice was just like this.
I can't believe that I didn't scream myself.
But it had, okay, the ears, the hair on its head on the top of the head.
on the top of the head, a little bit of hair on the ears, but there was a lot of skin showing as well.
And again, the pointy snout, if you will, snout.
It wasn't like a full-on dog nose.
It was a little bit smaller.
And, yeah, the eyes, the eyes were just creepy as heck.
They were big.
But the arms, oh, and then the legs, there was something really odd about the legs.
And unfortunately, I couldn't see them close up because the body was in front of it.
And this, oh, the spine.
It definitely had an odd spine.
It was like curvature, curved hunch back over spine.
And you can see the, gosh, I don't know.
The rolls in it, like a vertebrae.
Yeah, thank you, honey.
You could definitely see the vertebrae.
And it was thicker up top than it was on the lower portion of the body.
And I wish I could have seen the feet and the legs better.
but their arms were more to the side too.
The arms were not like ours are.
They were more out to the side.
And I guess probably because when he went over on all fours,
he was swaying side to side.
So his elbows were out facing out instead of ours kind of face back.
These were definitely facing out.
And then the swaying, the swing, there was just so much force in the swing
that it literally was bouncing the truck side to side.
it was crazy, but it had its face right up there in the windshield.
And my head was down and hers was in her hands.
And we just sat there for a second.
And then it left, it leapt.
It was quite a distance that it leapt.
But parking lot was about, how big is that parking lot, Steve?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah, it's not a parking lot, but it was big enough.
And then the alley, it just, it leaped really high up over.
over a fence and I didn't see it after that.
Wow.
Crazy, huh?
That's wild.
It really is.
I want to make sure I got something right.
So the shape of the face did not necessarily have a super obvious, like dog snout like you usually see with Dogman.
It was a little different, you're saying?
It wasn't as big.
I expect, okay, so I envisioned Dogman.
And once I heard about dog man, I thought,
werewolf, that's all I could think of as the old werewolf with this big, huge snout.
It did have a snout, but it wasn't as big as I would say for the face.
It wasn't as big as you would consider the old school werewolf.
But it definitely had a dogish snout.
It just wasn't really, it wasn't pronounced.
It was maybe like a three-inch, I'm just speculating, nose snout.
But the mouth, it was like a dog snout, but it wasn't like huge.
like you would expect in the old werewolf movies.
Was it more like a dog's nose then or like a human's nose?
It was both.
It's the strangest thing.
It was both.
I was trying to figure out, as I said, I have no idea.
I have no idea.
But Dog Man is the definitely, now that I've looked at different drawings that people have seen
and heard about it on podcast, now that I'm aware of it, Dog Man,
I finally think I have my answer of what it was.
But back then I was like, is this a demon?
Is this a, and I've heard of Chubococras,
and I've actually heard of those around here as well.
There are tales of Chubacabra, and I thought, okay, what is the Chubacabra?
So I started researching that, thinking that might be what this thing is,
and there was nothing close.
It definitely, dog man is what I could.
If I were to pick what this thing was, I would definitely say dogman.
Wow.
And I don't have the background of where I know basic things about Dogman, like land between the lakes, Kentucky.
Is this area known for sightings that are similar to this?
Or was this a pretty rare thing to see something like this in Idaho Falls?
Probably pretty rare.
I have told a few people, and I do have one friend that said that he had seen something similar at one time.
But it's nothing I've ever heard of before.
But honestly, so six of us adults total saw this thing.
And if I would have been alone, I would have questioned my own sanity because it was the
strangest thing in the strangest populated location.
And I've lived here all my life.
So it was just, I don't even know.
I would think I was crazy and I wouldn't tell the story if I didn't have so many witnesses.
Yeah, that's the wild thing is, as you said, there are so many witnesses to this.
were there
I wonder if there was any like
security camera footage of that
that parking lot
probably not
back in the day
it was a pretty
it's an older area kind of old buildings
that were
had a couple little businesses in them but
it wasn't a real popular
that I don't I doubt the parking lot
would have I don't know
also it's 97 so
yeah it's a little different
time
period. How did this affect you guys afterwards? Was it hard to move on from this encounter,
or I guess you can talk for yourself specifically? Yeah, we discussed it multiple times,
but just in awe. I know one, the couple that was with, I was at dinner with our friends,
they didn't want to talk about it. It was, it freaked them out that they just didn't want to
talk about it. My father, who has since passed, was also with us. And we talked about it. And we talked
about it and he was just like, I have no idea what that was, and I can't believe that you,
he was so calm. I was so calm. And the girl that was, that I picked up that night,
I don't talk to her, see her often, but for weeks on end, we were online looking, actually,
months. And still to this day, when I met Steve years later, in 2009, I told him about it,
and he was helping me. So it's been on my mind often. And my kids, when I got home and I told
them about it. They were teenagers. And they helped me look online and they still talk about it. So it's
something that I'll never forget. I've told this story so many times. I've been trying to
create imagery using what you have given me for descriptions. And it is, it's absolutely
horrifying stuff. I probably have nightmares from this. Just the way it looks is crazy.
I don't know. I'll be fine. I'll be fine. But I'm just saying I can't imagine what you went through.
being there.
Yeah, I did have some dreams.
And my daughter asked me right after that, after she had heard about it, I told them,
just be careful when you guys are out.
This thing really happened.
And grandpa can verify it.
Your dad can verify it.
Sonzo can verify.
And I was concerned.
I said, but I knew it didn't want me.
And I haven't seen it since.
That's good.
That's great.
Have you ever looked into something called the Palecrawler at all or the Rake?
Anything I thought?
Yeah.
Yeah, I have.
And actually, Steve pulled those up for me.
And I, as far as the fingers and the color of the skin and the lurkiness about it, that, if they would have had fur and the ears and the pictures he brought up, then I, that would have been a close kind of description of the linkiness and the eerie prowlingness about it.
Whatever it was creepy.
And I'm with you with the dog man thing.
I don't care about if I see Bigfoot great.
I'm not worried about that, well, as much.
But if I ever see this thing again,
anytime I even hear Dog Man, I get chills.
I don't want anything to do with that.
Yeah, that's something.
I want anything to do with.
Did you ever?
Anyway, that's big, I'll go ahead.
Sorry, I got one more question.
Then we'll move on from, we'll move on from this one.
But did you ever go back into the restaurant or any businesses in that area and be like,
hey, we saw something weird out in the parking line.
Have you guys ever heard anything else?
Anything I thought?
I did ask one of the businesses there, a little later,
and that they hadn't heard of anything.
And I didn't really go back into that one and ask.
I didn't know them well enough,
but I let it go as public talking to anybody
or telling the story for a while.
I just spent a lot of time on ALL just looking.
But yeah, if I ever hear anything,
or all that you know,
if there's an exciting or anything,
think of another one.
All right.
I appreciate you sharing that with us.
I know I can only imagine, man, if I experienced that, something like that, I would still
be dealing with things from that, to this day.
So thank you for going back to that point in your life for a few minutes.
So after that, what else did you guys experience?
Okay.
We have a couple of really good ones together.
They are bizarre.
So I'll let Steve take off.
It's just like the old commercials.
But wait, there's more.
Okay.
Back in 2009, oh, I wanted to add something to you to, since you're the researcher,
I'm going to give you a more pinpointable location or area.
If you go to the BFRO website, which I did because I was trying to figure this thing out
on that little hunting incident, there's two other incidences in that area where a gentleman
was cutting wood, and he's been featured on a television show about his account.
He left his trailer.
He was cutting wood.
He left his trailer and saw up there and got out of there because he saw something huge looking down at him on a hillside while he was cut in wood.
And then in another incident, there was a Cajat County Sergeant dispatcher and her grandson who were aggressively accosted by what she described as a Sasquatch that actually she saw him at him in Wallstrom Hollow.
So I was in that general area.
I was a little more east, but about the same latitude as those other two sides.
It's in the same general area.
So I piqued my interest at that.
Okay.
I got more to go.
Does that help you out?
Yes, that helps out.
I'll have to look into that as Cassia County, Idaho.
It looks, yeah?
Yep, Cachia County.
Okay, cool, cool.
Okay.
So in 2009, actually 2008, went with some.
friends and they're adult kids. To give you a little background on this, my friend, I'm not going to
mention his name, but he's a Zuni Navajo, very spiritual. And we had talked about what he calls
the Bigfoot, our old people, people that have lived here way before we have. And he says,
I know of a few spots where something might happen. And it's a cool place and everything. So we ended
up going, it's in between Letoore, Idaho and Mackie, Idaho. It's that ridge right between it,
just south of, what's that lake, metal lake. Metal Lake is another crater lake from the top of the hill.
We're on the back side of that down below in a canyon called the Meadow Canyon. And we had set up
camp early in the day. And if you look to the west, there's this really scenic alpine picture
I mean, it's really paintable mountain.
And there's a trail that heads north to the right.
And then the left fort takes you down further west where there's a bunch of caves on the side of the hill and a lot of slate, sandstone kind of stuff.
But this particular time, we decided to hike up the trail to see what was up in there.
and so one of his son's friends had a Magellan GPS and I had a garment and so we were just interested in to see which one performed a little better.
So we had taken some survey tape out of our backpacks and we did waypoints and tied a piece of survey tape onto a limb or roughly over the point where we had made the waypoint to see whose was going to be more accurate,
finding the waypoints on the way back.
And so we hiked in, I know it was about a mile and a half, two miles.
It's pretty steep.
We're at well over 7,500 feet.
So you don't want to, unless you're in really good shape,
you don't want to overegir yourself up that high.
But we got towards the end of the trail,
and there's a big pile of slaty earth,
this kind of combination of slate, granite, earth.
And there was this cedar tree that was really weird when we looked at it.
because all the branches on the tree had been knocked off.
It looked like something had wrapped its hands around this tree.
It was probably about eight inches in diameter and just snapped off all the twigs and branches off to the ground.
They were piled up at the trunk.
And the top part of this tree, the tip of it was split down the middle and it was twisted down and it looked like a heart.
It was tied off.
It wasn't like a snag-up.
bit was tied in a knot.
And the tree was probably about 30, I wouldn't say, I would like to say 15 to 20 feet tall.
This is a long time ago, so I'm just trying to rep Picture it in my mind.
But anyhow, the odd thing to me was it was twisted.
It was bent down.
It looked like a heart.
So the branches spread out and it was twisted down and tied together.
Like the trunk was split from the top on its way down and tied into a knot.
and we felt that was odd.
And we turned around to head back to camp,
and every once in a while, on the way up and on the way back,
we were getting whiffs of really musky, just human B-O.
We were questioning each other, who didn't shower,
but it was really pungent.
It was really strong.
Didn't see anything or hear anything at all,
but the scent was overwhelming.
It just wasn't right.
But there were still birds flying around and noises in that,
so I don't know why that would be,
but nothing weird of that sort was going on.
What was really weird is coming back down the trail,
we'd hit our waitpoints and we'd look for the survey tape and the twigs.
And everywhere we had tied survey tape on the trees,
they were snapped off and laying on the ground.
I was like, okay, this is like crazy weird.
we looked around for footprints, didn't see anything, we thought someone was messing with us.
Something was messing with us.
So we just continued back down the trail to camp.
Before we get to that split in the trail up on the hillside of this picturesque mountain, I'm telling you about,
I saw about 200 yards what appeared to me to be a large bear walking on all fours up,
up towards the top of the ridge.
It was traversing, so it wasn't going straight up.
It was going up at an angle.
and it was walking on all fours, but it was far enough away and obscured by the tops of these pines and cedars.
It appeared to me to be a bear, but now I'm debating on whether or not it was something else, again, in retrospect.
We got back to camp, and that was it for that time.
Now, the next year, I took my now wife along with the same friends.
to go back to that canyon to camp.
I had at the time a big huge cabin tent.
This is a spring bar.
It has a lot of pegs on the bottom of it.
There's 12 or 15 pegs you have to drive in.
And then tension poles, hold the walls up and the roof up.
But as we were setting that up and pounding the stakes in,
I'll probably need to backtrack a little bit,
give you a better description.
When you're pulling into the canyon,
the metal part of it, you drive through these woods, it looks like Tolkien's Merkwood Forest,
it's like all these old, dead, twisty trees, there's nothing growing in there, and it's just weird.
And that goes for about, I don't know, maybe about an eighth of a mile, it's not very long,
and then there's a sinkhole, and you have to pick up your speeding drive around the edge of the sinkhole
to navigate into the canyon to the left, and then you're in.
and as you straighten out head back west, if you look to the north, there's a cliff wall on another ridge that's not attached to that mountain I was talking about.
That was probably a couple hundred feet high.
And that's relevant because when we were pounding the tent pegs, excuse me, there were huge boulders getting pushed off the top of that cliff and they were falling down.
And we stopped a couple times and were like, what?
is what's going on.
This is totally weird.
And when we stopped pounding the pegs in the ground, that stopped altogether.
And nothing else happened until later on in the evening.
And that was pretty eventful.
So I'll let my wife elaborate on what she heard.
And we don't have a difference, but it's important for her to describe what she heard versus what I heard.
Okay.
So that night, and I were speculating it was probably about 2 o'clock, 1.30, 2 o'clock after we
we sat around the campfire.
And we went to bed and I'm not sure how much longer after we had fallen asleep.
I, we both woke up and just sprung up.
The ground was rumbling.
It sounded, I actually said, there's a herd of elk or something running through here.
And you can hear it feel it whooshed by the tent.
and the rumbling was so intense, it could only be a herd of something.
And I thought we were all going to get trampled.
We had three tents sitting there.
It was that loud and that scary.
He jumped up and he grabbed his gun and grabbed his sight.
And anyway, I was shaking and I thought we were going to get trampled.
So I let him be my outdoors and open the tent.
The other people with us did the same thing.
But Steve was the first one to look out.
I'll pass that back to him.
So the site she's talking about, I had a very primitive, I still have it.
It's a very primitive Russian night vision monocular.
And it's not the greatest picture.
You can make out shapes, a couple hundred feet away and whatnot.
So I had grabbed my rifle that I took up there with me and the night vision.
And I looked around.
I didn't see anything.
But I agree with her.
We heard a bunch of it was loud.
It was thumpy.
To me, that's what we.
of course, trying to be logical and sensible.
It alluded to that it was probably a herd of elk or deer or something.
But the thumping and the ground vibration, it was really, it was a bit more than that, I think.
Like I said, we all were looking at one another and that.
We went to lay back down and we heard it again.
And I stuck my night vision out the tent again.
And I had parked my truck a good distance away from the tent.
tents because that's where we kept our coolers and stuff. And we didn't want that near the tents.
And I looked up at my truck and I saw four large kind of blobs. That's how primitive that
Night Vision site was. Couldn't make out any great detail, but they were big. And they were on all fours.
And two of them were in the bed of my truck. And so I picked up my keys out of my coat pocket and I
hit the rinsie button, the panic button on my key fob.
And they scattered off.
The horn went off. The lights were flashing.
They took off.
But it was weird because they were high enough to where,
it was a Toyota Tacoma and the backs.
So these humps were almost level with the truck bed.
I don't know.
I'm thinking in retrospect that maybe there was,
a group of juveniles or something in there.
I don't know.
They were just, like I said,
didn't have any great detail.
These were like 80s, 70s, 80s era technology.
Nothing like we have today.
I've since upgraded them just for that reason.
But that was kind of weird.
Also, earlier in the evening, before it got dark,
we hung up some glow sticks in this canyon.
There's no one getting back in there.
It's 21 miles from the main road on like a Jeep trail up into this meadow.
There's no one coming up.
And you go up in altitude about 2,500 feet.
And we hung up these glow sticks, and we were plinking at them with our rifles.
And we hit a couple of them.
But some of them we left hanging in the tree.
And we noticed later on that they were going out.
So we thought, we'll go over and pick up our pieces.
Now we don't want to be litter bugs, pick up the pieces of what we shot and what was hanging.
We got over there.
The ones that we hadn't hit, we hung up.
I think it was six light sticks, and we recovered three damaged ones, and we know the other three were just hanging there.
None of those were found.
Couldn't find them.
So I can't tell you what happened to them.
I don't know other than the only logical thing would be is something picked those and amscraied with them.
But that was a crazy night for both of us.
We all talked about it the next day and just left it at that.
My friend, he was, we just sat there gas looking at each other.
And then we started talking about the year before.
And I'm like, you're right.
There's old people up here.
I'm thoroughly convinced her.
And we didn't see them.
But the next morning, it's even wilder.
We go to pick sage because we like to smudge our house and smudge ourselves with
the sage. And at about a certain altitude, there's a different variety of sage that smells really
pleasant. And so we went down to pick some of that. And so we left campsite with a couple
plastic bags. And I had a, I had nothing but a tomahawk on me. And we walked down and it was
basically, I'd probably say a good third of a mile away from camp, back down the road. And we went
into that murkwood forest area
and then there's a clearing
after that like I said we got past that
and we were in there
picking the sage and it was
a lot of it and
as we were there probably
maybe 10 or 15 minutes
on the ridge line next
to us which parallels that
road in through that murkwood
forest as I describe it
there was the sound of
charging whatever
trees crashing
huge grunts and growls.
It wasn't a bear.
I know every animal out here, what they sound like.
And it was nothing like that.
But we didn't see anything.
It scared Gina so bad.
She started to take off.
And I don't blame her eyes like, Gina, don't run.
If you'll set off a predatory response.
And all I've got is a tomahawk.
So she stopped in goodness, and I caught up to her.
and we hustled it back to camp and we told my friends about it and they're like let's just pack up and get out of here and we didn't so we cut the weekend short to get out of there because it was just there was too much craziness going on it really was crazy so i'm open for questions on that incident that man well oh man that is a lot happened to you in two days i want to double check so when you were looking at your truck
the four large blobs, all of those were on all four, as you said?
Yeah, but two of them were in the bed of the truck.
The tailgate was down.
Two of them were in the bed of the truck.
Okay.
So the coma had at the time, it had a three-inch lift on it.
It wasn't super high off the ground, but to have the backs of those humps,
that's all I could tell you is they looked.
I could say they were more bear-like, but what's the likelihood of having
I don't know.
They could have been bears, but I don't think so because the weight of the running that we experienced beforehand was crazy.
And I didn't see anything the first time I looked out, the second time, which was not too long after the first time I saw those in there, to them.
And the backs of them went up almost to the top of the bed of the truck.
And that would be bigger than a bear on all fours.
We have black bears up in there, and we do have grizzlies out here.
but in that area, you're not likely to see a grizzly.
And our next and last final incident, we'll talk about,
there could be grizzlies in there, not likely.
But you'd have to be closer to the Rocky Mountains
and the continental divide before you start running into those.
Have you ever been back to Meadow Canyon again?
No, no.
No, we're not going back there.
That's not a part of time.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. Wow. It would take a lot to go back there for me, too. That was a lot of really close stuff for you to deal with. But feel free to continue with what your next experience was.
I know. This will be our last one, I think, and that's it, really. In another area, closer to your very interested, you vocalized on your podcast, how interested you are in this area.
Palisage Reservoir.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Okay, so we're a little northeast of there, like maybe about five or six miles.
On the south fork of the Snake River, access to its icy canyon.
But it goes back further.
It keeps going until the road ends.
And you're probably about five or six miles from your Swan Valley incident.
and then just down the road a little bit as Pallas HHS War.
So this was in 2011.
Me and the wife wanted to spend an overnight in the tent next to the river,
and we found this cute little flat spot that you could fit your tent and your pickup truck in, and that was it.
And so we set up tent and had a little fire going, just sitting there chilling out.
All of a sudden, around 1130, we were just looking over the river.
And this very large object, probably about 200 yards away, 250 yards away.
On the other side of the snake, where there's no access, road access into that area,
this large humanoid object came out of the tree line under the sandbar.
and it was weaving back and forth like a priming.
I mean, I've seen videos of apes, and that's what they do.
And I had a 500-lum flashlight, and I turned it on to see if I could get more detail on what this thing was,
and it would just merely walk back into the tree line until I would turn it.
flashlight out and then it would come back out and start doing the same thing over again.
Now it gets even a little more interesting. While this is going on, we've got
orbs. Everywhere. There was like probably eight or nine orbs. And there were, there was no
color to them, just white, bright, white, light. They were about the size of, I'm just guesstimating,
probably like large beach balls flying all over the place. And when they did,
flying near the canyon wall to the self-work of the snake, the canyon walls would illuminate.
And we started seeing these things roughly a little bit just before we saw the object,
but they were in the distance just darting around. When we started seeing this thing,
the orbs got closer and were like going everywhere. It was nutty. And we didn't see anything
as far as great detail on that, just a silhouette. But it was a creature.
crazy night. Oh, do you want to interject on that incident? No, it was a crazy night. These,
these lights, or whatever they are, they were going, there was no formation. I counted between
eight and nine. They were moving all over the place. It was hard to get the exact number,
but they were going 90 degree angles, right? They were going every which way and turning direction
up and down. It was like a whirlwind of crazy. So we're already stunned by the silhouette. And
then all that started happening. We were looking at each other, looking across the river.
This went on for a good half hour. And then finally the orbs disappeared. And we were like,
what whiskey tangle fox trot? And we sat down by the fire. We didn't know. We were just in shock,
really. And we looked back over across the river. And this thing was doing his sway thing again.
And the orbs were gone. And then he again grabbed his flashlight, put it up there. And then it
slowly stepped backwards into the woodline again.
And that was the end of it.
Now you're probably going to ask, did you guys sleep?
Not really.
So we did climb back in the tent and listened for every little thing we can hear.
And I kept asking him, are you sure that thing?
Nothing can cross the river, right?
And he said, the current's too strong.
The current's too strong.
And I'm like, I'm hoping you're right.
Because we didn't know if we were going to be abducted or Sasquatch or what was going to happen.
Yeah, we should have probably packed up and come home.
But we were like, no, we're going to stay.
Wow.
Yeah, we did leave first thing in the morning, though.
So, anyway, that was the extent of that one.
That's wild.
Boy, was there any way you're looking at it with the light of the flashlight,
but it's across the river?
Could you tell things like it looked like it had no, no clothes, or if it was?
Oh, yeah.
It was just solid dark.
It was just solid dark.
Even with a flashlight, you would, I think you would see some sort of contrast,
but it was just dark, black, and it was tall.
I would say it was probably, I would say it was a good eight to nine feet tall.
Oh, wow.
From looking at it the next day.
But it would just come out of the tree line far enough.
You look at the yard, and I had a pretty good flashlight for the time.
It would just light it up enough to see like a matte finish to whatever it was.
And it would just back in to the tree line, avoiding the light.
and then when I turn the light off
it would take a couple of seconds
and just meander on back out there
and it wasn't like a hurried pace
it wasn't aggressive
it was just weaving back and forth
whatever that might mean
and I would guess primate language
I have no idea what that means
but that area
I will add palisades and that
there's a few areas in palisades
I will not camp
there are a few areas in palisades
that will not ride my four wheeler through
because I've
gotten the GBs and I don't ignore the EBGBs anymore.
I really don't.
That's just your human instinct telling you something's wrong.
Oh, absolutely.
But that whole area, I'm trying to think of that creep down there.
McCoy Crick.
Yeah, McCoy Crick has got a lot of stories down in there.
Off podcast, on podcast with BFRO and that people we know that around here,
the biggest thing is it's, I'm not saying they're accepted, but it's, it's approached
nonchalantly. In other words, they, yeah, you're going to see stuff out there.
Pretty much attitude. Since I've looked at her since 85, and I just give you everything that I've
seen that is weird, but you are right about palisades. There's a lot of weird stuff going on
down around that area. And we went far from it. But if you ever get a chance to come out
and visit, have a look around there, and you'll see it's like prime habitat. It's beautiful.
Gotcha. I had a feeling ever since that one, the one episode I did with the older guide hunter
gentleman and he just had some wild
stories about about palisades
but I'm definitely going to look up
McCoy Creek one more question
for you about the humanoid figure
that you saw so when you shine
a flashlight at a human
usually
most humans they'll react where they're going to
like wince cover their face
they didn't do anything like that
did not do anything like that it just
walked it just kind of walked
slow pace backwards
and just went into the tree line
Now, so all you have is Toulis.
It's just basically rushing olive and Tullies in there.
So it's a thick brush.
And then you'll have, if there's cows on that side,
you'll have probably some cow trails busted through there or whatnot.
But it would just go back into the tree line until I turned the flashlight off.
And it would come out.
And there was enough light from the moon that you could see it okay without the flashlight,
but it was just black and tall.
It wasn't very thick, though.
It was pretty, I wouldn't say super skinny.
It was kind of like, I don't know, like looking at a, I wouldn't say a basketball player,
more like just a football player, but not like a pro football player in all.
Yeah, definitely.
From our distance.
Yeah, from our distance.
Across the river.
The other thing I notice is that, so this is back in 2011, have you guys called it quits then
for going out and doing crazy camping stuff?
No, no, no.
We still go out.
I just was out hunting by myself yesterday.
Yesterday.
And in an area that as far as I know, there's nothing going on up in there, but knowing my history, and I don't know, like the, there's two emojis, the poo emoji and the magnet emoji.
I don't know, but I hunt all day.
I hunt by myself once in a while.
I like to hunt with a friend or someone, but during the week, everybody's working.
And that was, like, my only free time.
And the weather hasn't been that great out here.
So, yeah, I would go back to the last camp spot for sure.
Netto Canyon, no way in heck would I go back there.
So.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
There's the areas we've been talking about, I would imagine most of them, besides Bigfoot,
have pretty big predators in their listeners.
Oh, yeah.
You need to be very cautious about places like that.
And that's why I always pack a fireroom.
And when you're out here in the wilderness, you get a lot of tours that come in through here, and they're just totally nonchalant to the fact that they're part of the food chain.
That's really what it amounts to.
I don't ever go out without something that will do substantial damage to a bare-sized animal.
I will word it that way, whether it be a 12-gate shotgun or a 10-millimeter or a rifle of some kind.
I usually carry an M1A out there, but if I'm not just as a camp gun.
But, yeah, you don't want to go out there without being armed.
In isolated camp areas.
Now, campgrounds, we would.
And we have gone camping multiple times in between these,
but these are just when we've had encounters of some sort or odd things happen.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And in our experience is the only aggression that I really witnessed was when we were picking the sage,
out of all mine, that's the only really aggressive.
I felt terrified when it was like a false charge,
and it was going through everything in its path.
And it got probably, oh, less than 60 feet away from us,
but we couldn't see it because it's really thick.
And like I said, it was just full of dead wood,
and it was crazy.
But whatever, it was totally unfamiliar to me in sound.
And we got out of there.
It was like time to go.
It's just too flipping weird.
Just a fascinating group of experiences that you have had in some really interesting areas that, for the most part, there's a lot of new stuff.
I would be interested to hear, if any listeners have experienced stuff by what was that creek again?
It was McCoy Creek.
That sounds interesting.
Yeah, McCoy Creek.
Yeah, McCoy Creek.
There's, I've heard of stories of kids getting stopped.
Not taking, but something creeping, like spiral walking.
I've heard stories, several stories of spiral walking in the grass,
where they're out.
Apparently, they're like outstretched and walking around their fingertips.
Weird for me, but I've heard stories of that.
I've heard people getting spooked by shadows popping down behind their cargo trailers.
People's trailers getting bumped and stuff.
They've actually evacuated that area a couple of times,
and they weren't too descriptive of what was going on.
I was just pack your crap and get out of here.
Something's going on and something going on.
Oh, man.
That was then the last one was, like, I think it was in that nine or maybe early 2000s
when some hunters came down when I was up there.
And they said, we're, there's something down in the ravine, everybody leaving.
We had our kids and we were camping with some friends.
And every little camp spot along the way was full.
And we were told to get out of there.
And we did.
everybody packed up that there was a bear or something.
But these hunters said it was not a bear.
And that's the only thing I remember from that is.
So check into that and see if that might be on somebody else's side if it was recorded somewhere.
Absolutely.
I've never heard anything like that before.
That sounds like it could be an incredible account.
So I'll have to do some digging regarding that.
That would be in the McCoy Creek area as well.
Yes.
Okay.
Yep.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Wow, Gene and Steve, thank you so much for coming on the show today and for sharing all the experiences that you've had over the years.
I hope maybe these will unlock some memories for other listeners and they can feel free to reach out, Bigfoot Society at gmail.com or they can leave a comment as well.
But thank you so much, guys, for coming on.
And if you ever have anything else happen, feel free to reach out.
I'd love to talk to you guys again.
I'll definitely keep my eyes and ears open for you because I'm out there quite a bit.
Yeah, thank you for having us and bearing with us through our adventures.
Hi there. How are you?
I'm good. How are you?
Doing good. I saw your comment. It looked pretty interesting. You've had stuff going on since 1998.
Yes, sir.
Wow. I'd love to hear about it.
Okay. First, I'm going to start off. I have speech problems.
So I stutter and sound funny
Just to let the viewers know
But so I work at
Expedition Bigfoot in Cherry Log, Georgia
Now we're talking about
Yes, it's super awesome
I got this job a year ago
But for years when I told my first story
It was, oh, you're crazy, you're crazy, you're crazy
And then years later
I end up working for a Bigfoot museum.
So it's super exciting.
I want to start off with telling you,
I've been on Sash Clutch Chronicles.
Okay.
I'm going to go into my story now.
Okay.
So 1998, I was 15 years old,
and I was dating a guy,
and we were coming home.
Or he was bringing me home.
We were coming up our dirt road,
which is wildlife,
management. And we had stopped arguing back and forth. And this guy is super big. He's six
foot four, six foot five. I can't really remember now exactly how big his height is. But we're
sitting back and forth. We're arguing stupid teenage stuff, whatever. But he looks happening. He's
like getting the truck. And I am, I'm going to argue to the end. And I'm like, no, we're not done.
So I'm arguing with him
And I'm like, no, we're not done.
He's like, no, getting a truck.
About the time, he's like ghost-white.
And he's like, get in the truck.
And I look where he's looking, and I see this massive creature.
And it's doing the weaving in between the trees.
And it's checking us out.
It's not aggressive or anything.
It's like, you know, what's going on?
What's fixing to happen?
So it's weaving in and out of the trees and it's about 50 yards from us.
And it is super huge.
Like its shoulder, I can't even say a football player that it would be big enough to be shoulder length with.
Because it was so broad.
But I'm looking up at this thing and I'm going, oh my gosh.
If that thing's real, what else is real?
grew up with all kinds of
booger man stories
and I
actually finally get in the truck
let's go, it's being super docile
it's not being aggressive or anything
and we take
off, we go to the house
and that was the end of it
we talked about it a couple of times
but I'm no longer
with this guy and
throughout the years I've lived in the same
place but we've
had so many things happen
around here.
So I've talked to one of your
co-workers, Amanda.
Amanda, the Bigfoot lady.
Yeah, you guys have a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
We have some
amazing stories that come in.
I can't imagine. I can't imagine.
I can't imagine.
At a place like that.
So are you, let's say,
what's the most recent
thing you've experienced now, Eric?
For me,
it's been probably,
probably about
four years
since I've had anything happen around here
but everybody in the neighborhood has
had something they finally
have went, I think we've heard
or seen or had some kind of
inner reaction with your big foot
and these are the same people
that criticized me and
thought that I was crazy when I was
a kid. So
are people having actual
visual sightings or what kind of things
going on?
So my neighbor, which she just moved away last year, but my neighbor down here, she was from New York, moved to Florida, and then moved up here.
And she had called me one night, which she called me all the time about bugs and all kinds of critters.
But she called me one night and she's like, Marantha, there is a grizzly bear down here.
And I'm like, we don't have grizzlies.
And she's like, well, it looks like it's sitting on the bank close to the creek.
And she's like, I don't know what it's doing, but it's just sitting there.
She's like, I'm fixing to get my gun.
She's like, because it's a grizzly bear.
And I'm like, honey, we don't have grizzly bears.
You might see a cinnamon black bear, but we don't have grizzly bears at all.
And she was freaking out.
But that was her calling me and flipping out.
And I was like, I think you're seeing our bigfoot.
And she's like, what is a big foot?
Oh, welcome to the party.
Wow.
But that wasn't the first time that she's seen it neither,
because after that, she had seen it at the end of the porch of her house.
So she was like, oh, gosh, it's not a bear.
It's standing on two legs.
It's bipedal.
Because I had went into all, everything,
telling her like Bigfeits bipedal bear can't walk very long on their back legs unless they have injured paws.
I went school for wildlife biology.
So I'm trying to explain everything to her going.
I think you're seeing our Bigfoot, really.
That area down there, are they pretty much, for the most part, non-aggressive encounters?
No, we haven't had any aggressive.
It's all been very docile.
I got to get down there someday.
Just wanted to see the museum.
And just there's so much, I take so many reports from the Chattahoochee National Forest and the Northwest Shore, too, is wild.
We just had an encounter in Cherry Log.
The first one was August 7th.
And then a couple weeks later, in the same area, there was another encounter.
So yeah, you need to come and check it out.
We've got major stories that are coming in and out around here.
I guess.
And you're probably talking to people every day about stuff.
Yes, I do.
That's awesome.
I really do.
But I'm in my heaven with people coming in talking to it because, like, I was treated like the weird child and everybody saying, hey, no, that's not.
real and now even my mom she was one that no I'm rather you're crazy but now
she's even going she calls me constantly because of stuff we hear around the
house and not even around the house she had her sister owns the property in
Alabama and she's coming she's like listen to this and I'm like oh are we a
bigfoot enthusiast now
So they're hearing like localizations or?
Yeah.
Around the house, we have something that mimics a dog.
And like my little road, I'm related to everyone on my road or they've been around long enough I'm related to them if that makes sense.
Yeah, I get it.
We know all the pets that they have.
They've all made their rounds or whatever.
but there is something around here that mimics a dog,
and it's not something that's trying to yip like a coyote or anything of that matter.
It is something that's trying to...
It sounds like it's trying to be a coon dog, but it's not.
You can tell that it's robotic.
And then we got something...
I say something, but it's not something.
I'm pretty sure that it is our still...
our big hairy friend.
Yeah.
Because it likes to mimic an owl too.
Oh yeah, yeah, sure.
I hear a lot of that.
One thing, I was searching rescue back when I was younger.
Okay.
And I had to do training in our forest around here,
way back in the forest.
And I can't remember what a colony of owls is called or flock or whatever.
But when they start going off,
They sound like a bunch of monkeys.
Yeah,
Bart owls.
Yes, it's wild.
And if you grew up in this kind of environment,
you know what they sound like,
but I've had the neighbors,
the family call and be like,
what is this?
This is not our normal stuff.
And I'm like,
I've been telling you for years.
It is something that y'all keep telling me
I'm crazy about.
That's awesome.
Do you have a favorite?
report that you've taken while working in the museum?
Yes, I do.
This one is out of Alabama, but the guy was in the military,
and they had hunting property in Alabama,
and he said that they went going in,
and went hunting, everything, didn't have flugs that day,
and was coming back out, and lining it going into their hunting property,
there's, I don't know if it's big,
bushes of sawgrass or what it was that he kept saying, but it was bushes.
And he said he walked in and was coming back out and he stopped and noticed that there was
an extra bush and that they had fired too scared it, to scare it off and everything.
And it just stood up and was like, okay, fine, I'm leaving.
But it messed with them after that too, because when they had set up their blinds and stuff that
they noticed that it hadn't messed with everything.
That is when it comes to around here,
but I have other ones that are outside of the United States
because we have people that come in that are outside of the United States as well.
Oh, I'm sure you have people from all over the world.
Which is amazing.
Cool stuff, cool stuff.
It is a pleasure meeting you and thank you for chat.
Is this a conversation I can put up on the podcast?
You can.
Just explain that I have speech problems.
Yeah, I wouldn't have even noticed anything if you hadn't mentioned it.
But I appreciate you coming up.
Oh, you're welcome.
You have a good night.
You too, ma'am.
Awesome.
That was fun.
I like talking to people for that museum.
Expedition Bigfoot Museum.
in what is the actual town it is Blue Ridge Georgia
no either hi there I'm happy I'm glad that you have me give me the opportunity to
tell my story yeah go for it man I'm gonna ask you you had this I guess you had
experience yourself I've had some weird stuff happen I haven't had any
visual sightings but I've had stuff happen from trees got pushed over I've heard
whoops in Iowa tree knocks I've been
Oregon, Screamt in Oregon, all sorts of weird stuff.
But I've never had a visual.
Okay.
I didn't have a visual, but I had a shadow.
And let me just explain what happened.
I have a friend of mine is that his grandfather had 130 acres of land connected to a state
water or a state park in Atlanta called Sweet Sweet Water Creek Park, State Park.
And his land is connected to the park.
You know what I mean?
Every night, the deers will come to towards the property.
He had a pond in the front and everything.
So one night I'm in front of the house.
And I mean, I do.
I've heard all the animals and all what they do.
When the deal gets scared, I've heard all.
But this one time I'm sitting in front of the house, right?
And this thing sits in the middle of the woods, man.
And he, him and his girlfriend are in the couch inside.
They're flirting or whatever.
They're having a conversation.
I'm outside.
So I hear this thing running up on a hill.
But at first I thought it was deal.
right but it was a deer and then but then this thing was stomping if you were watching a
marvel a movie like if the Hulk was running through the woods boom and you could hear it plowing
to the woods breaking branches this thing was unstoppable right so i get nervous man so i grabbed a quarter
out of my pocket and i start banging on the window because i don't want to be well because that night
you could hear everything over there and so i'm banging on on the window with a quarter trying to get his attention
come out. So he finally comes out, right? When he comes out with his pit bull, the creature
stopped running, right? So the creature had reached the bottom of the hill, right, right behind
where the pond was at. The pond was facing the house. You know what I'm saying? It was the front
door. You see the pond right in front of you. Behind the pond, it was maybe an acre or whatever.
That's where the thing was. It had stopped running. So when he came out with his dog, I was like,
yo, man, I'm, I'm, I think bigfoot is out there. I think big foot is up there. So he's looking
at me when I was drinking a beer he was looking at me like oh man you buggy man yeah I'm
like man I'm telling you man I'm serious man let's look just stay and as you know he said you crazy
stops walking in the house the creature starts coming our way to the wood boom boom boom boom
you hear all kind of branches breaking this thing is real man this is nothing that you could just
hear and just dismiss it oh that's so dear that's no way then the thing stops man maybe
distance like that it wasn't that far away maybe 30 yards 40 yards but it stopped at the edge of the woods it didn't show itself it stopped at the end of woods and it lit out a roar that didn't match its size to me the roar was so loud and it was so intense that I can't explain them and I've been looking for that roar through all kind of monster raw things I've been watching big for channels and it didn't sound like none
of them. This thing is, oh man, I can't. The closest sound I ever got from it, I could play it for you. It was just a little bit of that sound in that tone. Do you want to hear like what it might sound like? Sure. And let me see, hold on. Let me see if I got it. I got it. But anyway, so anyways, it let out of roar so loud, right? That my friend, he opened the door and ran inside of how the dog followed him inside. And his dog, a pit bull, used to taste.
All the deer and any animal that will come out to the neighborhood, that dog went inside, man.
I'm talking about one inside.
And then when they went inside, the monster let up another roll, real loud.
So I'm like that, dude, I'm not scared, but I'm shocked.
This thing is real.
Because I was one of those guys that, what are you looking at it, like, yeah.
And then the thing is, it's hard for me to tell the story because when you're on the other side, the people that have witness,
It's different from being on the other side I never witnessed.
For you trying to explain it to somebody that I've never, ever heard the story.
They look like you like that cognitive dissonance kicks in.
And they're not trying to.
They already magically shut you out.
You're crazy.
You're on drugs and all this stuff like you.
And I'm like, oh, wow.
So me and my friend, we've witnessed it together, right?
This happened Friday night.
We went to work on Monday.
Monday I'm telling everybody.
at work and they all look at me like I was insane then I see him yo Matt tell him he denied it man
he let me down man I was so pissed at him he didn't enjoy the story because because he was a driver
and he didn't want anybody to think that's what he told me he didn't want anybody think that he was
messed up I said dude man this is a story to tell man I was on there on a positive to try to see what's
going on he denied it and the thing is that it was just that day I've been looking at too big for
foot. So I went into the, oh, I'm sorry. Okay, yeah. I went. But after the two roars, the monster
started walking up the hill and let out a third roar right in the middle of the mountain. But it was
lower than the first two. And then when he got all the way to the top of the hill, he let out
another roar. So all together, he let out four roars that I've never heard in my life, ever, from any
creature that I've seen on TV, from even from a gazillo movies. I've been looking for this
and I haven't been found it yet.
It's unique.
It almost got like elephant in it.
Oh, I hear it out a lot.
Yeah, it almost had an elephant type to it, but it was real, man, it was intense, man.
If you would have heard that roar, you would turn around, you want to see Godzilla behind it.
It was that intense.
And it was with authority.
So I've been looking for all this stuff about Bigfoot, we're still going to the property.
So next year, you know, that same girl that was with him that night,
She never heard the work. She was inside the house.
There was music playing. She didn't hear. She comes back with another friend of hers, right?
They visited us at the house. So my buddy needed time to be about to sit with her.
So he left me with the other girl outside. So I put her in my pickup truck and I'm driving around the property.
We got a lot of you can drive around. And I'm telling her the story. Oh, yeah. I'm telling her the story.
And she's like looking at me like this guy is insane. And when we get back towards the house and as soon as she got out the car,
that thing roared but from far away during the day.
And she said, what the dad?
And I said, well, that's the thing I've been talking about.
That's the thing I've been telling.
Man, that girl started crying.
She couldn't believe that she heard that.
So that's what if she heard it from far away and felt that way, imagine how I heard it.
Because it's sounding like a serious monster out there.
And then I started looking around.
If there any sightings were Bigfoot on Sweetwater Creek Park, no.
But then the next park over, the next.
State Park which is in our um high room Georgia there was two sightings of people reported over
there and then the further you went up north it more it became common but this park is right
there at the edge of Atlanta you know what I mean I'm like what's this creature doing in the
city man you know what I mean so it doesn't make it just doesn't commute because normally I
thought those things would be in a remote you know areas and stuff like that but this thing's
right there in Atlanta man
I'm trying to see how this thing is surviving in the state park.
I guess he knows what it's doing.
I don't know if it's been there all the time.
Does it have family members?
I don't know.
But it was a experience of a lifetime.
I'm into Bigfoot, big time.
I went to the, I went to in Tennessee to the Bigfoot Convention over there.
I went to the Rocky Mountains, to the Rocky Mountains to do,
I was working at the Rocky Mountain, but I went to pictures with the Carbys, a big, I'm into it.
But I don't have a community that I could talk to and share stories because
everybody that knows me since I grow up believe me but everybody outside of who
that knows me no I think I'm insane so it's hard to reach people and then when
you talk to different people from different aspects I've gotten this a lot from
like religious people oh that's demons and all this crap and I'm like man come
on man get out of here with that man it's not that man there's something out there
there's so many people reporting it and then I think I was one of those guys
on the other side yeah it's a possibility
But it's never been a proof.
There's never been no actual, you know what I'm saying?
There's never been anything solid for anybody to run with.
And then the thing is that now when I had my experience,
I didn't have nothing to solid wrong with either.
Just a story you tell.
So it's hard to push it across because the people don't have good evidence.
Oh, I get it.
I do this so that people have a place to share what the experience.
I appreciate you coming up, sir.
And hey, is this a conversation that I can use?
in my Bigfoot podcast.
Absolutely, man.
Yeah.
What is your podcast anyway?
Check it out.
It's called Bigfoot Society.
I do have one episode you would really like to hear a lot of reports from like
Douglasville and South.
That's the way it was close with Douglasville.
Right.
Yep.
So it's episode 816 and that's a lot of Georgia stuff in that area.
You'll like to listen to.
Okay.
Give me the name again, sir.
I'm sorry.
Just look up.
Bigfoot Society.
Episode 816.
And this is on YouTube?
Yeah, you can find on YouTube or Spotify or Apple Podcasts.
Man, I appreciate you.
You let me up, man.
Thank you for having this community up, man, because we need a platform somewhere to talk about this stuff.
All right.
Appreciate you coming up.
You have a good one.
You too, man.
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