Bigfoot Society - It's Followed Me from Board Camp to Oakridge!

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

Note: This is the original version of the interview with 8 minutes that were cut for the public. If you like me chit chatting at the beginning then you'll like this. A former MUFON investigator went to Oakridge, Oregon searching for answers. One night outside her cabin, something came out of the darkness and headed straight toward her.In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Patti Valvo shares what happened during an investigation that took her deep into some of the most active and mysterious locations in Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Oregon.Near Oakridge, Patti heard unexplained knocks along the edge of the Willamette National Forest and experienced small objects landing near her as she walked back toward the cabin. Then came the encounter that sent her running—a brilliant ball of light descending near the forest and rapidly closing the distance behind her.Patti also takes us to Sparks Lake, where she documented enormous barefoot impressions near the water, and Waldo Lake, where strange tree formations added another layer to an area already connected to disturbing eyewitness reports.Her journey also includes Area X in Southeast Oklahoma, Board Camp Crystal Mine in Arkansas, a remote property near Lake Thunderbird experiencing unexplained vocalizations and animal activity, and an unsettling discovery beside a creek in an undisclosed location.This is a journey through Bigfoot country with a former UFO investigator who started asking questions about what might be happening in the forests—and found herself experiencing things she still cannot explain.📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here:https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

I couldn't. I felt like a lion was chasing me. I took one last look before I leap up four stairs, and it is 10 feet behind me, the size of a volleyball. This is Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Today's guest is Patty Valvo, a former Mufon field investigator whose search eventually took her from southeast Oklahoma into Bigfoot country and ultimately to Oak Ridge, Oregon. While staying near the edge of the Willamette National Forest, Patty started experiencing some very strange activity around the property. Then one night she walked out to her vehicle and saw something coming toward her that she still struggles to explain. Here's Patty. I was just doing reports at home, though, and that got redundant. I was like, I want to go out and see these places. Like, you can figure out the cosmos, whether there's military operations, if there's weather phenomenon. You can do all that stuff, you know, right here at home.

But I'm like, I want to get out there and see what is why Southeast Oklahoma. has so many side eats. I wanted to get boots on the ground, whether I was going by myself or with front. And when you say that, are you referring to UFOs or to Bigfoot? Both. How did you then, so you're in Mufon, then for right now you are totally into in the Bigfoot stuff. You are going all over the place. We'll get into that. How did that happen, the going from Mufon into now we're really, looking into some some bigfoot activity well it happened because i had a case my i think it was my

second case and it was shame church which i'm he's given me permission to say that with red dirt cryptids and he and it was one year prior to when he was telling me about it i'm like we need to file a report on this let's do all the data and just double check and make sure he said that they were setting up a parabolic mic and they were going down to their location to set it up and they had book fill on the brain but they look up at the tree tops and there is a there is a uap UFO spinning within a wheel within a wheel and it has three amber lights circular and he said it had all these glitter twinkly lights in between and it was right over the tree tops and it started to move off and they should

should have followed it, but he said we were, had big foot on the brain, we were on a mission. So I took his whole report and it was one of the only ones, the first ones that I had taken that it was actually an identified UAP. Usually we can find a reason what it is. But what blew my mind about that is that I had become friends with Jimmy Williams on, I don't know if you know who he is, I think he's kind of an independent. He was telling me that the same night he saw the same UAP, and they were within a mile from each other.

And I believe one of them had a Sasquatch siding that night. I feel like it was Jimmy, but I really can't remember that. Don't quote me on that. But I remember just being blown away that they described it exactly the same. I mean, word for word verbatim. I just knew there was something to that. That is absolutely fascinating. And the notes you provided, I have to say, probably the best notes,

notes that anyone, anyone coming on the show ever has provided. So thank you for that. And I remember the part of your notes, because were there actually three separate Bigfoot groups that had sightings of? Or? No, there was actually two groups, but there were three, I thought there were three individuals. I only talked to three individuals, Guston, Shane Church, and Jimmy. But Jimmy was with somebody. And I think, the guys were with someone else that I didn't know. So everyone won't. Got it.

So then that gets you, that's your, your catalyst. It sounds like that there's some connection here between the UFO, UAPs and Bigfoot and what's going on. Yes. But at this point, I still think that I'm just looking for a undiscovered ape. Okay. Right, right, because most individuals will go down that road. So, okay, so that's another thing. So then you go through that journey and how is that journey?

Was there an incident that happened that made you think or realize that, yeah, we've got this whole Bigfoot thing is not just a gorilla out in the world of America? Yeah, that was a little bit later. But I have to say, I didn't know what happened first. I became a Mufon investigator and I did that case with a shame church, I started seeing orbs of light in my room, in my bedroom at night. And then I was really blown away. I'm like, was it the chicken or the egg? And I was warned about this from my director who had experience the same thing after she became

I'm the director. I really want to hear more about that. So you, she experienced it too. Wow. So can you describe these, these orbs that you're seeing in your room all of a sudden then? I would wake up in the middle of the night. Now, keep in mind, I'd been in a car accident too.

I'd had a couple things. I'd fallen off a ship. I had been in a car accident. Every time, I had a hip replacement at 41. Every single time something took me out. and I had to sit and be still with this ADHD body, it was really hard on me, but I grew in other ways. My intuition, I'm 49 years old now. I had these things happen when I was young, but it definitely, I was able to hone in on some of these abilities.

And once I started seeing UFOs, they definitely amplified. I felt like a sixth sense was awakened in me. But I didn't start seeing the orbs of light in my bedroom. I was so hurt from all my issues, I would get in the hot tub and I would pray and meditate. And Jeremiah, I would open my eyes and there would be several UFOs. And so then I went down the rabbit hole of Chris Bledslow. And I read his book, UFO God. And when I would experience these things, it would feel like love.

and I thought, I don't care what people say. It comes when I pray. It feels like love. And then I started to hear things that I thought was my own voice. And then I would wait at night I would be sleeping and I'm a dreamer. And I would wake up in the middle of the night and I would use the restroom and I would come back to bed. And I would just see a thing like it looked like a tiny little star, a little white light just. flash. And then I would get my attention and then I would see it and it would float around the room.

As a tiny white star. Yes. Okay, interesting. I got chills right now. That is so wild. But it's the feeling. It's not just I saw a ball of light in my bedroom. Right. The vibration, the humming, my body would be buzzing. My ears would be ringing. And then the next day I would have an enhanced sense of intuition that seemed ramped up for a few days after a sighting. And within one year, I saw over 50 UFOs around my home, and I live close to Oklahoma City. So I'm not in rural country. How am I seeing them in my backyard? It tests your sanity to where at times when I started hearing something guiding me,

beautifully, things I didn't know, things I shouldn't know, I started to realize there's a connection and it was enhanced by that. And then I started reading other people who had the counters. And Michelle Heaton, her being a dreamer, Sam. When Sam Chandler came on, I was laughing, crying, everything he said about the vision of the female Sasquatch, I've experienced that. I mean, I thought I was talking when he was talking. I was laughing, crying, what you do for people, Jeremiah. You thank you for giving people a safe space to talk about this stuff. I remember thinking I will never breathe a word of any of this.

Boy, has that changed. You really are making a huge difference that trickles down so far, whether you understand how deep it goes or not. It's very important, and I thank you for that. I appreciate that. Sometimes it, yeah, there's a lot going on. I've experienced that once. It was actually during an interview.

I can't remember which one it was, but I looked across the room, and it was like a little tiny golden marble floating in the, and I was like, oh, no. Mine are almost like white, blue. I feel like everyone I've seen is so white and blue with a blue hue. Okay. And then, I mean, and I've talked about this a few times, but when I was in Tennessee before the cancer diagnosis, that night up on the mountain, that was the first time I've seen multiple orbs out in the woods. And that was, that was a life-changing experience. It was just like, what is going on? Like, they're not lighting bugs. Yes. Shining lights on them. There's nothing there. It's crazy, man. It is crazy. That's wild. I just I don't know what to think about it, but it's why I have definitely taken things like prayer more serious, more seriously, more frequently. So interesting. Man, I know there are so many different places that we need to go because you've provided the information. What would be the most? the most logical thing to talk about next, Patty, do you think?

Let's go to Albion. So I go to, this is when we were going to the first, my first festival. I was like, let's go check this out. Let's go meet these people. So I went to Albion and we stayed in an A-frame there. It was great to meet everybody. I got to meet Daryl Adams and Mark. Oh, I didn't meet Mark Wentz that time.

So the second night we stayed in the cabin. I am like a little Native American woman on the land. I brought tobacco. I blessed the land. I sat and meditated on the land under a fire, and I could get flashes almost of what the land looked like. I don't know. I'm taking a guess.

Sixteen hundreds. I feel like I could see what the land used to look like, and it used to look very different. So after I gave an offer, of tobacco and then I placed apples around and gifts. I meditated and then within a couple hours after my husband and I are out there and we, he captures one of the most incredible UAP videos ever. I think it was in 4K.

It was amazing. We see a flash and then it kind of acted like the one in, Oak Ridge. It just continues to flash and it almost responds to me speaking to it. I mean, it appeared to be. And we got it all on recording. I think you have that here too. That's why it's called Flash of Beauty, honey. Right there. What is it? You got it on recording. Are you recording that? Yeah, that's just not. One of the time you do. Shall I? I'm trying to. Do you have the treating it for reference. Yeah.

So we can see how far it is tomorrow. Thank you, Lord. Forest people, if that's you or whoever. Thank you, God. That was cool. I won't be like Dave Wilbanks and go follow it. He just talked about that. And I just saw another one, Curtis.

I can't get my eyes straight. Oh, it's going on. I just saw something shoot across too. Did you see that? No. Diagnal in the mountains. Show us again. Once again, it's dim.

Can you see how dim it is? That was awesome. See that? Yeah. Are you still on it? Yeah, this thing's been going on stuff. Is it catching more in the camera than it is? No, I mean, I'm looking nice of colors.

In the camera. There's two. I've only seen the one. No, there's one over here too. There's no lighting. There's no lightening. There's no ball lightning out there. There's no storms.

No, super clear night. You're literally looking at the kind of each mountain, so I mean, this is where all the white phenomenon is reported. How cool. Super cool. And gone. Wow. And the next day my husband went out and took a picture of the tree that it was hovering

over, because I could even see in the dark the tree turn red. Later we found out it burned that tree, and that was the high. highest radiation reading that Mark Wince had ever had. So after that happens, I call Tanya Kordak from Bigfoot Enigma Museum. And she says, let me call my friend Mark Witts. He's a theoretical physicist, a nuclear physicist, and an astrophysicist. And he's 71 years old. And he's been at the University of Arkansas, a professor there, I believe 41 years.

Smart dude. Thorough. He comes out within 12 hours of us checking out. and he is there for, I think he goes back two or three times. He does radiation. Testing. He does electromagnetic testing. He does soil samples, tree samples, leaf samples.

It burned the top of that tree. And when it was over that tree, Jeremiah, it was ejecting UFOs out of it, like balls of light out of it, as if it was birding other ones. Well, then. my husband could not see those coming out. I could see things. That's when I realized, too, that I could see things with my eyes that he could not see.

But when we blew that video up on the screen, you can see sparkles and electrical energy all over that Chiamichi Mountain. It was insane. I could see it with my real eyes, but he could just see the one. My husband is a very logical person, and that blew his mind.

mind. So yeah, that was the highest reading. An average reading for a radiation is under 50. And 7,200 high, extremely high would be 1,000. It's crazy. 7,200 compared to, I mean, the lowest elevated you have here is 1,000. Even that is 72 times. That's wild. That is wild. And Mark decides to reach out to the Airbnb owner. And I tell the Airbnb owner what's on his land and Tanya tells me that there's only two other houses on that land and one guy's a cattle rancher and the other one moved out of the home a year prior his wife died and he had those orbs of light in his home. Well we find out two weeks prior that there was a cattle mutilation there and it was your classic cattle mutilation. Sexual reproductive organs

removed ears lasered off nose lasered off all like laser cut all the organs removed and the cow was dropped from high because it was three or four inches down into the dirt. Really? Not one drop of blood anywhere. So that just added more confusion and then I wasn't sure if I ever wanted to stay back there against. That's some risk in Walker ranch stuff, Patty.

That's wild. Did you guys have any, you know, going through treatment right now for cancer? So I'm kind of like binge watching some stuff. So I'm watching, you know, Secret of Skin Walker Ranch. And I'm really into it right now. But did you have any like any weird physical effects that came up after being on that property? No, just heightened me, not my husband, just a heightened sense of intuition. That's amazing. extremely for the next few days. Okay. Lots of buzz being, yeah, charged energy.

So that was that. I think it wasn't until I got to Uncle Joe's ranch in Tuscahoma. That's when I, you asked, when did I realize I was not just searching for another primate? Yeah. Yeah. So then we go from there to I meet Wendy. I know you haven't met Wendy yet. She's incredible.

I meet her online and I can't believe the Lord has brought me a friend that is just like me. We have identical in our beliefs and our interests. And so we're like, let's meet. So we decided to go to the Bigfoot Enigma Research Center, Museum. and go to Brian Terrell's class. And that's where I got to finally meet Mark Wince and at Uncle Joe's Ranch. That is where I started experiencing major paranormal. And that's when I got very confused, like, what is going on here?

So we go to the class. I hear Tanya talking to somebody at the class about a home that was destroyed by a Sasquatch after the gentleman said he was going to Texas to get enough ammo to kill that thing. Yep. And I told Tanya, we're going up that road. And she said, Patty, you won't make it up that road. You'll break an axle. And so I said, well, we're going to go up as far as we can.

And I do not go with packing heat, but I travel with a chest pack and bear spray. And so her and I followed each other up that road. and there I see I can't get to the cabin that's destroyed. She said it looked like an elephant just sat on the front porch, that it completely caved in the deck after he said he was going to unalive that thing. So once we get so high up, the road was really rough. I was in shock when we got up there. I was in culture shock.

A lot of the homes had out houses. People were living off grid. Huge rocks around their houses and somebody had glued dinosaurs all over them. There was Bigfoot crossing signs. I realized these people know that Sasquatch is here. And so at some point we see a man with a firearm coming up with a Polaris. And I'm thinking, how do you have a Polaris when you have an outhouse? He's got a firearm.

He's dressed in camo. He's blaring Metallica. he speeds past us and sees Wendy and I like, I don't know these chicks and starts rolling back and I'm like, time to go. We need to get out there. So we jump in our cars and you know you've got to do a five point turn to get down road. And right, she's turning and taking her time and I can't move until she gets moved. So I look over to the right and there's a creek and a dead deer. So I immediately run over really quick because the guy's backed up.

he's going again. I'm feeling like it's safe just to take a peek. And that is when I saw my first footprint. And I had to move fast. I couldn't take a picture or anything because I think we were both nervous to get off that mountain. I saw a deer with its head twisted around twice. Its two back legs were broken and there was one foot print in the dirt in the creek. And that was just seeing a print live. It just changes everything. So I want to make sure I got that. So you saw a deer that was neck twisted and there's a footprint right next to that deer? Yes.

I can see the heel, very distinct. The toes, not perfect, but I absolutely knew what it was. And that really set it in. Like, this is real. I just couldn't believe this girl's going to, woman's going to go out, me and actually find evidence. No, I thought I was just going to go put some boots on the ground and just see what these places are like, I never dreamed I would actually start seeing and experiencing the things that I did. And it'll get you. What were the dimensions if you were to estimate?

I want to say that heel was probably four or five inches wide, maybe 16. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, not quite as big as the cast that I have in front of me right now that was gifted to me from Brian Houlin. Shane Church. Oh, nice. Very nice. So not quite that big. And we had to move fast. So I just jumped back in the car and we went back down the logging road and that night we sat by the fire. And then we decided Wendy and I were going to get to know each other. She's amazing. She has some sort of connection with the forest people. I don't understand it. She reminds me of Carlos.

She intrigues me. Everywhere she goes, she finds a structure. I don't care if she just picks a place on the map. She has a photographic memory. She can almost just intuitively say, I'm going here. And I've never seen her not find something. So I thought, I've got to get on the field with this woman. She's incredible.

Absolutely. And I thought, if I'm going to go with anybody, I want it to be someone who's warm and loving. I didn't want to be with anybody that's packing ammo and ready to take something out or have an ugly attitude. It was important to me who I surrounded myself with going through this. I think that is very smart of you to say. And it's one of the things I've realized over the years is if you're going to go out, take the time to take the time to get to know the person that you're going out to one for safety, two, just to make sure that, I mean, the chances that you go out like in your situation, you're probably going to have something happen more than if you're

with a guy who's like, I just want to be famous and become a millionaire. Well, you're probably not going to have anything happen or you get chased out. Yeah, for sure. I didn't want to go with anybody that would have the potential to get bluff charged or I don't no, I don't know how that works. But so that night, while we're sitting around the fire, this is when the paranormal started. I was joking with Wendy about my 20th anniversary. I wanted a new diamond ring, and I wanted a triangle rock.

I was said, I want a triangle rock. I want a big old triangle rock. And I thought, I better second guess that because I do nails for a living and I could scratch somebody doing a pedicure. Jeremiah, after sitting by that fire and playing those sound bowls, I go into the restroom in my cabin and I'm pretty OCD and ADHD. I will notice everything. The cabin was quaint. It was cute. It was clean. I would have noticed a rock on the wall. I walk in there and there is this, that picture that you're showing, this triangle rock right in the middle of the floor.

And I'm like, no way. That reminds me of Daryl Adams and Toe. Oh, sure. Yeah. When they would say they would discuss something and then it would happen. Go back out, play some sound bowls, sit by the fire, talk to Wendy. I had to come back in for something. I took the rock out, showed her, we discussed it. I come back in and there is another rock sitting in the same place. And I thought this is paranormal. What is happening? So those were really the only two things that happened there with the rock. And then that night I tried to meditate in that little cabin after Wendy and I went to bed. And that was the weirdest meditation I think I'd ever done.

I feel like I'm pretty experienced at this. After my hip replacement, I had to learn how to walk again, basically. They cut my femoral nerve, and for 10 months, I was on a walker cane. And I spent a lot of time because I got really depressed and anxious, and I thought, I've got to fight and come back. Well, I thought I'm too ADHD to ever try to meditate. Boy, was I wrong. it enhanced whatever I had going on anyway from all these things that I could do.

It increased it for sure. And then it drew me back more. And I was hearing, like I said, as an investigator for Mufon, I was seeing the Orbs of Light and hearing things, still thinking it was myself until that night I did this meditation. and it reminded me of Sam Chandler when he talked about it. I could see this individual. And it was so powerful, Jeremiah. My teeth were chattering.

It reminded me when I was giving birth. My whole body was just shaking. My ears were ringing. And I had to pull out of it. It was too powerful. And it was the weirdest meditation I'd ever done. And I thought, could it be that I'm at this place? Well, there's already paranormal stuff happening inside.

the little cabin and now I'm feeling like this. So it just led to more questions than answers. I've got a few questions about this. This is wild stuff. So is this place you're out, just some Airbnb that you had stumbled upon. That's right. Wendy, Wendy found it. She picks all of our locations. She is kind of a map genius. I think she has a photographic memory. And she, she does tomorrow we're going to set in wilderness outside of Norman because I just was in shock no way that something could be that close to Oklahoma City when you're doing meditation are you doing do you do like a guided thing like let's say the gateway tapes or you're just like you're going into it and it is just you and the meta you're just doing it I've done it all I've done guided

I've done command cell therapy when I was trying to heal from my car accident and hip replacement where you listen to it, you're commanding yourselves. I would do guided. I started doing it because I was in so much pain. I started seeing a doctor named Dr. Ahmed Guman who did acupuncture on me and he would put in a guided imagery and he would leave. While I'm so ADHD and high strung and intense that that was the only way you were going to get me there to sit for 30 minutes with 15 needles in me and he would put it on and I just thought what is that stuff so I started doing it and I sometimes I just do it to different frequencies um it's a lot of visual I think we are powerful human beings and our consciousness I mean you are the observer with your eyes and the experiencer in meditation you shut down half of that

and you you are the observer and the experiencer moving in one field. And I think your consciousness affects that field. And then I think your reality is created from your perception from that field. Does that make sense? That's really interesting. So that's why I think so many people have different experiences. When you have a group of people and you're like, well, I saw this, I felt this, I saw this. You could have one encounter and five people say it all turned out different. The observer, each of our consciousness affects that observation. Does that make sense?

Yeah. No, absolutely. So when you go into one of those sessions, what is your goal when you start that? My goal is to not be so high-strung. Cool. Well, I feel like I just am a little ball of energy and I have to return to myself. Okay. I have to return to myself.

So I do it always first thing in the morning right after I wake up. Sometimes I'll do it at night, but that's the best for me. I do it anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour. And I'll do a little bit of both. Like this morning, I did a 15 guided minute meditation and then I did for about 30 on my own. You return to self and the veil drops. The veil is thinner. You can experience things.

I lost my dad in August and I was going in for a meditation just Tuesday for something else. And when I invite the loving guardian angels and any entities that come in love and unity that are here to assist and help humanity, my father came through. and I was a blubbering mess because I've avoided that for almost a year because it's too painful. And I, so I, I don't know, I don't know. I'm still trying to understand it at 49 years old, but it's a beautiful gift. And I'm fortunate that I was able to experience that with him, even unexpected. That is, that is a really special thing that happened. Thank you for sharing that. You also were able to go to a place that has come up on the show a few times, the board camp crystal mine.

And you've had some really interesting things happen. This is outside of Mina, Arkansas, the town is called board camp, right? Yes. And that is a very magical place. Real quick, though, when we left Joe's ranch the next day, when we checked out, she took me to tell him, of State Park to show me some tree structures. I'd only seen one in Stinchcombe, and that was really all I'd ever seen. When we went there, nothing really happened, but when we left Jeremiah, pebbles were thrown at my trunk and hers, and that blew my mind. We left apples out there,

saw the tree structures, and as we were driving off, I had four or five pebbles thrown at my trunk, and me not knowing that she did, I call her to tell her, and she said, I just did, too. And so that kind of blew my mind as well. So then our next trip, I'm like Wendy's had already been to board camp, Crystal Mine, and she said, you got to go experience it. So Orville and Cheryl were building those little cabins and we wanted to be one of the first ones to stay in it. So much went on there. I almost need to pull up my notes for that one. I know. You sent me a few audio recordings of you just talking about. I was like, this is really intense. Like, well, you are right. A lot happened there. A lot happened there. The place is pretty darn magical. Okay, so right out the gate.

And I was so happy to take my husband because he doesn't see, I mean, he's been with me 20 plus years, but for him to experience it, I could hardly watch the sky because I've seen a million UFOs. I just wanted to watch him the whole time, just taking it all in. So board camp, crystal mine okay where we just arrived we're about to unpack and i bring three little mushrooms that are authentic stones as for the forest people i put my luggage up on the bed and he's laying in the bed resting and i thought like did you throw a rock curtis like he i heard of something ricochet around the room and i looked under the bed and i found that little red mushroom i didn't bring any bread mushrooms or anything plastic. I brought those little ceramic ones. So it was almost like,

how would something know that I was bringing at mushrooms and then a mushroom just fall out of thin air in the cabin? I mean, both of us were kind of blown away. So as I'm standing at that little window, I look out and I see those two crystals on the deck. And I'm like, Curtis, those were not out there. And as we're debating it, I looked back out the window and it had been 30 seconds. I had just looked out that window and there was a bunch of little daisy flowers that had been ripped up and set on the deck. Even it was just strange. It was fast. It was strange. And I thought, what is going on here? My husband, there's an area there where nothing has grown. It kind of reminds me. We have hearts worn where the UAP touchdown.

Sometimes you hear where UFOs touch down that nothing will ever grow there again. I've even heard stories of it raining and the water beating off of that area, which is odd. He took one step into that circle and we were there with Fred, Wendy, and a couple other people. And he got lightheaded and a piercing migraine and he stepped out of it and it would go away. Really? Oh, that's wild stuff. Okay. That place is totally wild. So you know about Orville getting taken? I notice in their tour they don't talk too much about the abduction. They don't want to scare people. But after talking to all of them and getting close to them, they have had some other things pop up on that land that they're not going to talk about and just close in on itself. And I, man, after talking to them, I was like, these guys have way more to share. If this is the stuff that they're like, yeah, we'll talk about.

I mean, oh, my goodness, I can't imagine the other stuff that you had probably heard. But she's wild. Yeah, after watching Skimwalker Ranch and Ross Colthardt talk about national parks is hiding a portal. And I don't know. I truly believe there is a portal there. I truly believe there's a portal there. I've never been there and I'm just like, just, I've talked to multiple people that have been, I'm like something. And then not to, we won't get too far ahead, but to hear then what you shared with me about what is Mark has experienced.

I don't know. I want Mark to come on your show. I'm going to reach. I was like, after I talk to Patty, I'm reaching out to Mark because Mark's, what you shared about Mark, I was like, oh, this is. incredible stuff. He sent me a message and said, I thought about it, Patty, and I'll go on the show. Oh, awesome. Okay. He's definitely down.

Well, let's continue with what happened to you guys. So first off, when you were, you had the crystals and the flowers, you weren't hearing anyone walking around the cabin or anything. I mean, it doesn't sound like it. Nope. Nope, not there. Nothing like that. But when we did leave and check out, we were getting our luggage and taking it back to the car. And I walked up, I think I sent a picture of that.

I saw one footprint in the leaves right outside the window, just one. And it was huge. And we had seen a few of those back when the nursery, if that's what it is, over the hill where the natives would tell Orville, don't go past that hill. There were lots of footprints in the leafs. But, you know, it's not in the mud, so you can't really get all the details. This footprint here on screen. What would you say the length of that probably is? 13, 14 inches maybe?

Cool, cool. I know. I'm going to get better about that. I finally put a dollar bill at the one in Oregon. Right. That's the move that Cliff taught me. He's like, just put a dollar bill man. And I'm like, oh, that makes total sense, right?

Yeah. Absolutely. So what else? But you can, if you are as sensitive, board cam, crystal mind, you can feel it. You can feel it there. Oh, really? Like right when you get there, yeah. Yes.

Talk about a parallel. You can feel both. You can feel like it's super magical and then kind of scary. Okay, so that's interesting. So were you guys feeling both at the same time then? I was at night. I was just trying to, when my husband would go to bed, I would just meditate. and try to tune in to what was going on around me and you could feel both but it's pretty magical

it feels it feels good there it's it's amazing just to see so much phenomenon and then that night we watched with a whole group and like i said i saw a fireball on the sky i've seen so many reports about fireball never actually saw what looked like a burning sun um we saw over 50 UFOs about 10 satellites, some shooting stars. And there is something strange about that place. Just that area where the stage is, it's almost like a dome, Jeremiah. You can look up and it's like a super highway to where I'm like, is this just an open space where they can travel to? Then you could walk to your cabin and look up and it'd be nothing. And the sky even look lighter. It was. It was. strange to where we were running back and forth from the cabin to the stage to see if we could

see the difference. And it was like still when we got to the cabin, nothing. And then you go to the stage and it's just super high wave stuff. Were other, oh, go ahead. I was going to ask just real quick. So were other people there also hanging out and where do you think other people were experiencing things or your experience was was pretty unique. Oh, no, I think everybody experienced things there. That's just like a whole group experience. You experience it together.

He really doesn't want people walking anywhere on the land by themselves. And I'm like, why? I think he's concerned about that. You know, we also walked around with paper clips in our pockets because all the metal on 40 acres is magnetized ever since the three pillars of light showed up. you can just stick it to it and then compasses won't work there they just spin it's like a pulse shift or something it's different it's so that's that's similar to some of the skin walker ranch stuff yes some of the experiments um that's that's well the trees grow crazy they're like s trees

trees that should be straight they're curling in spirals and just weird triangles and weird trees so everything is just odd there. Whoops, I skipped a hit. The other interesting thing, I remember them saying in the interview is that they have a lot of reports of like healing happening there. Oh, I wouldn't be surprised. Interesting. I wish I had got some healing there.

Right, right, exactly. Yeah, yeah, we can all use some of that. So it sounds like, it would be a place you would go back to again? Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I'm trying to think of what was next. So we went to the board camp crystal mine. Oh, and that's when we got to go to Area X.

I never dreamed he would take us there because I just didn't think he would. Everyone acts like it's so private. But that day, he was like, yeah, let's go. And so he met us and took me, Wendy and my husband, Curtis, out there. and we drove 30, 40 minutes and then hiked down a road to Area X after that. And we went to his little gifting station and that's where Mark leaves dates and peanut butter. And I brought my little mushrooms for them and an apple and this Native American bracelet,

which I think it's really interesting because Mark called me the next day and said, Patty, they took everything that was authentic stone. they left everything that was artificial. Oh, wow. And I was like, weird. And you can see the bear print, too. So he took us to that pond where he had an encounter, which I wanted to hear all about that. He said once he approached the pond that he could tell that there was a Sasquatch right,

okay, on that picture, over to the right, the furthest to the right was where he said a Sasquatch pushed a tree into the water like you're too close. No way. He's had so many encounters. I have some, a few questions because there's listeners that are going to have questions. So when we say area X, most listeners will know what we're talking about where it's a spot that has been researched for 20 years in southeast Oklahoma that is extremely active. And you can look up like what ape.org to hear sounds from there. N-A-W-A-C is the group usually associated with it.

So, and I don't know if you can even answer this, but my question is, when you say you went to Area X, is it the general area or like you were actually there or like kind of this vicinity? Because it's not like Sasquatch is like, oh, I'm only going to hang out in this like one little area. Like they're all over the place in that area, probably. Yeah, probably. We went to the main area. We parked at the main area where I could see the NAAC put their little sign up that says Woodie.

That small town monsters had just been to when he went to Oklahoma. It was there. Okay. Take us all the way in about a 30 minute walk. And then he told me and my husband and Wendy, I'm going to go get another recording. You guys just head back right there. And it started to get dark. And I was like, you're not coming back with us. And he's like, no. You three will be okay. Just stay together. I watch my husband kind of puff up like, I got to be the man of the, I got to be the brave one. Good for him.

Good for Curtis. Was it as hard to get there as people say? No. I had all these ideas. I was like, I'm going to get bit by a copperhead. I've got to do it. No, I don't think it was. All right.

Yeah. Very, very interesting. they go deeper. I'm sure that there's, yeah. I'm sure that you could go deeper, but we didn't need to. We went to his spots. So there was that. That's cool. I got to talk to Mark. Some of the stuff you've told me about what Mark has experienced is out of this world. We definitely are out of this world. I look to him to help me try to understand what is going on in this reality because you go in an ontological shock when you figure out. This is not what we were told. There's a lot more going on than meets the eye. And so what was next? I guess what's next is, oh, crutch. Absolutely, which I was, man, not being able to be there.

One of the toughest, it's tough because there's so many cool people there. And like this year, like a hearing that, oh, you guys are going to be there. I was like, oh my goodness, this sucks, you know? Like, I was really wanting to meet you. And hopefully that'll happen in the future. But, man, it sounds like Oakridge. I've already heard that Oak Ridge was wild for a lot of different people. But it sounds like you guys had your own journey there

and you experienced some interesting things in Oak Ridge. Absolutely. I have my little thing here. Okay, so the first day, Wendy was hiking McDowell Creek on our own because my flight was canceled. The second day, we went just to check out green waters to figure out, like, how are they going to have this here? Where's the parking?

And we went to Saheli and Kusa Falls off the McKinsey River. That was amazing. Not much happened that night, except when we got back from seeing all the waterfalls, Wendy and I started a fire and we did a 19-minute guided meditation. And once we opened our eyes, there was about 10 UFOs, and one respond to us with a flash. I think Wendy said something, and it flashed. She asked it to, and it did. And that was a trip.

Oh, that's incredible. Wow. Yeah. But I think everybody in Oakridge was seeing UFOs because Ashley Stenett said that she had saw a ton. I mean, then I watched Michelle Heaton on yours, and I cried on that one, too.

I was like, oh, my gosh, she experienced the same thing. Because that, when I, the orb of light, I could hardly talk about it for two days. That took some processing. Multiple people.

There's some people that have, like they will share with me, but not come on the show, which is totally understandable. There was a multitude. of i don't know what it was but a lot of people were experiencing orbs and not just up on jason kensi's adventure hike either i mean this is other places in oakridge too is very very wild stuff yeah i just wondered like how am i going to tell my husband that a ball of light chased me in the

forest yeah okay so we did that 19 minute meditation and that and then the next day was the Summerfest and we met everybody. We went to Salt Creek. Not much happened there, except we got some little tree. I don't know what they are. Symbols that glyphs that people see. Is it like this scary here?

Yeah, that one was odd because we had just been down that trail and we were on our way back and it was placed right in the middle of the trail with the rock on it. So I thought that was a bit peculiar since we had just walked there. So I had never seen that. That was my first one. And of course, I was with Wendy. And then these two sticks sticking up.

But I will tell you, Jeremiah, after Board Camp Crystal Mine, the day after when I got home, I dreamed of a female Sasquatch. And it was a lot like Sam Chandler's. That's the one I was telling you about. I could see everything about her. And when I woke up, I was absolutely buzzing, vibrating, and my whole bedroom smelled like flowers. And I'm a smeller. That's just been something that comes along with it.

I can smell things that nobody else can, and it's usually a clue of something else that's going on. So that was a trip for me. But I saw in that dream, after dreaming about her, it looked like the matrix, the beginning with all the green letters that go, you know, but going this way. And they were all amber colored, not the green. And I just thought, what do I do with that? What do those even mean? I don't know what they mean. Why am I dreaming of that?

So just a lot of things that lead to more questions and answers. But it really spoke to me when he told that because I've experienced that same thing. It felt good to know I wasn't the only one. So then we go. Let's see, Willamette River. Sparks Lake, there we go. We hike the ray. Every day we drove two to five hours somewhere.

We drove to the Ray at Kinsom Memorial Trail. Those pictures were beautiful. Before exploring the peninsula, we hiked part of the Ray Atkinson's Trail. The whole area contains a lot of black lava rock and jagged basalt. And once we got down to the water, I saw these huge prints. One looked like it was about 18 inches. And you could see the metatarsal break. That right there is a juvenile, I think, or a human. It could be a human foot, but I think it was peculiar that it's right next barefooted to the one that was 15 or 16 or 14 inches. That picture doesn't do it justice either. I mean, I think a lot of, I hear a lot of people say that. The big toe was a huge impression. I saw that one that was 14 inches, one that was

probably like 18 inches and then the child juvenile that or it could be a young human in between and it looked like it was following the footsteps of mom or dad and that tripped me out and this is so this is the same area right yes all the footprints i found in Oregon was all in the same area right there we found these weird rock stacks and what was interesting about them to me is i was really studying the way they were all balancing on each other to where I thought, if I just moved one of those, the whole thing would collapse. Who could do that? I mean, I guess somebody would sit and do that, but why? It did. And then the footprints, it just didn't make sense. To have the rock stacks and the large footprints there, something that place is wild. And so I use listening to you,

I got that scanverse and I thought I got a scan averse app. Yeah. And so I kind of played with these, the little scans to try to get, get a scan of that footprint. When did we go to Waldo Lake? I want you to look that up. I want you to tell me what is going on at Waldo Lake.

Okay. There's a lot going on in Waldo Lake. If you look at my map. Yeah. Oh, okay. I need to look at your map because I knew nothing about Waldo Lake. Oh, So you just went there for fun?

Yes. We were. We had no idea. So we were our, where was our target location? Our target location was, we were going somewhere else. But heading out, we thought, let's go to Waldo Lake on the way. It's 30 minutes from where we were staying. So nothing about Waldo Lake made sense to me as an investigator for Mufon.

I'm searching all the details. we're reading on all trails. It says no access to the lake. And I'm like, well, there's access to the link. Road construction. The road's closed. Well, the road's not closed. We get there and there's about 20 campsites.

Every single campsite, Jeremiah, has a chain to it and has the same name and date on all 20 of them. I'm like, come on. Whoa. There's not going to be the same dude taking all these campsites. And I think Wendy or I, one of us said, well, maybe it's a family reunion. And then I said, well, they're two days late for their family reunion and they only got a day left. Then I see a makeshift sign that says no camping. So I'm like, none of this place is making sense.

So it was very weird. So Wendy said, let's just get out of the car park and just hike down to the water and see it. And this is a small, I don't think it's a huge lake. I can see across it. So we park and we get out of the car, Jermaya. all the hair stands up on my head, my arms. I immediately say, Wendy, I don't like this place. And she's like, let's just go down and check out the lake.

So you have to kind of hike through the woods to get to the beachy part of the lake. And I'm ruminating. I'm saying the same thing over and over and over in my head. Pick up a stick. Pick up a stick. Well, I have a can of bear spray. You know, I feel like we used to have this ability. I know hunters still have it.

people in ER, people that are police officers, military operations, this sense of a predator is watching me or something. Yep. And some of us, some people don't have it at all. So we get down to the water and I look down and I see about 25 mountain lion prints. I mean, they are everywhere. And we have been to so many beautiful places in Oregon and I haven't seen one. So it kind of puts in perspective the feeling I got when I got out of the car.

And so I know that Wendy thinks I'm already scared and I'm trying to keep up with her because she's, she's awesome. She can, she probably hides five miles a day, if not more. So I get, I don't say anything about the mountain lion prints. And I finally pick up a stick. We, we hike through this other little woody area. We come back down on the beachy part. and she sees it. She goes,

are you seeing this? And I looked down. I'm like, yeah, I'm seeing it. I'm glad you said something. I was wondering when you were going to see it. And I immediately say, Wendy,

I don't like this place. Like, let's go. She says, okay, let's go. So we hustle back to the car. That was scary, just trying to get back to the car. I wanted out of there so bad.

And so right when we kind of turn out and start cruising out of there, we see two trees about that big, completely snapped side by side pointing like the direction to go and I'm like I guess we're supposed to go that way right and then we see that Wendy sees it and I don't see it and finally she backs up and I take a picture of it and I'm like that is plain as day a big that is fascinating if so the map I'm referring to uh so you go to bigfoot society podcast.com and I have the map where it's all the people I've talked um well I'd say It's over a thousand pens, but I still have work to do.

Anyways, if we're talking about the same place, if you look up Waldo Lake, east of Oak Ridge, there's a lot of activity that I've talked to people about over the years. It's pretty wild. Then you've got Spirit Lake out there too. Yeah. That is a place that's weird. I mean, there's been like the report where someone saw two Bigfoot that looked like they had. dreadlocks and they were chased out of there and then every night allegedly all the sticks um go into the center of if there's sticks in the lake they go into the center of the lake and then

they start spinning around in a circle it's very weird i had multiple hunters tell me that first year at oakridge it's very weird stuff that is weird you can definitely feel it at waldo lake because i knew nothing about waldo lake so i was very curious when we got in the car my phone acted up the whole time in Oakridge. I mean, all kinds of things. Yes. Wendy's phone was fine, but anytime I needed to research something, I had to use her phone. So I went to AI and I'm like, tell me about Waldo Lake.

And it was like, 15 people missing? I'm like, what are 15 people go missing? I think one was in the 70s. And then it showed in the last eight years, a total of like 15 people missing. Three were just found unaligned floating in the water. No reason. three were never found and the rest of them were found. And I thought, how do you go missing in a small lake like this?

Oh, boy. That was pretty wild. That's concerning. Yeah, there's stuff that goes on. I mean, if you dig, there's some really interesting missing persons reports. There's one down by Cottage Grove. You can find that is extremely intense. I would be cautious going out in the woods out there,

myself for sure. I know there's some people that do it, but it gets weird out in Oregon. There's no question about that. Yeah. And Darrell wants to go back. Oh, Darrell does? Yeah. Yes. That's awesome. So as, and I know there's more to share, but as a Mufon investigator or someone who has been a Mufon investigator and into all this weird stuff, what is your take on, what is your take on the statement that, oh, Ridge is a weird place. Do you agree or disagree? I agree. I actually really thought that the show Gravity Falls was probably made off of Oak Ridge. I know. I know it. It's so weird. It's strange. It's very strange. That it's so strange. I mean, we wanted a wild experience. We got it. I think that cabin too was haunted as well that we stayed in. I was ran out of the-haught it. Really? Yes. We It was right on the Willamette National Forest.

I mean, that 375 feet from the back of our cabin, that right there was the tree line. And she even told us, like, you go past that, you're on your own. She had a little string all the way around. Like, that's the forest. Like, there's nothing back there. That place was freaky.

So we check in in the first night. I sleep in there. And Jeremiah, I'm in that room with bats. A mama bat had babies up in the rafters. And I tell Wendy the next morning, I swear there are bats in here. Every time I flash the light, they'd shut up because I could tell they were nocturnal. And the next morning, we're debating it. And she's like, you know, maybe they're mice or we're not debating it.

We're discussing it. And there's a baby bat crawling up the wall right there. So we've truly got the wild experience at Oakridge. So what happened first at Oak Ridge? So every night we did hear footprints about 3 or 4 a.m. The first night I didn't hear him because I was in the master room with the bats. And then we barricaded that room and put a towel under the door until they could deal with that. And I slept on the couch.

And Wendy was on the loft. And every single night there were footprints footsteps in the cabin. Oh, inside the cabin. Oh, boy. Yes. Yes. Inside the cabin. What else happened there?

Hold on. So how far, man, how far away from you inside the cabin? Right there. It's like a room with a loft. Right there. Same room. Yeah, yeah. She's on the loft and I'm on the couch.

That's freaky stuff. It was pretty freaky. So I guess I'll just go ahead and get to the orb. So that day was July 12th. So this is the... Saturday? This is Saturday. So the big orb happened on Sunday, but I do have to say Saturday, all weekend she had, the owner of that Airbnb, she had a campground down there too, and I think I sent you some pictures of that. She had four fly fishermen that were staying there all weekend. But by time Sunday came and I saw the huge orb, they were gone. So we, that day we traveled to Florence and Hobbit Beach. Have you heard of Hobbit Beach? No, but I was like, when I saw everything you put in the notes, I was like, Patty's going everywhere. I've never been out to the coast. I mean, this is awesome.

Oh, we had to hike quite a bit through these little hobbit holes, like kind of going under the woods like that. And you had these embankments up on the side that was just plum thicket of stuff on the side. So it was almost like something was up eating a feast. and then you walk out and that's that's the entrance it was gorgeous there was not a lot of footprints on the beach there was old ones but not a ton because most people just want to drive to the beach they don't want to have to hike a mile and I have to get to the ocean right so we saw a plethora of crabs oysters um clams I mean something had had an absolute feast and there were just shells everywhere on those little embankments.

But it was almost as if something was decorating with them. I even saw like the crabs, that was a trip to me. If that was a bear, it would have eaten the entire thing. I just crushed it. Something would pick a hole out of it and eat every bit of it and then decorate with it. I even saw one of the crab shells busted in half and it was balancing on its shell, on a stick, and then had a stick. There it is.

I wish I would have got a better picture of that. That is almost like a lean-to. It was balancing on that little stick and then had another stick holding it to where if you just flicked it, it would fall. It was strange. So we're super excited walking through the whole little trails, finding all this,

and then we get to the beach and there's that structure. It was wild. But Wendy, she just, I don't know, I just follow Wendy around because she's incredible. I felt like I'd paid somebody to be my tour guide. That's amazing. That's wild. Yeah, just a crab leg stuck in.

There were feathers stuck everywhere, just odd, odd things. And this is in the same area, right? Yes, and isn't that little tribal thing? Isn't that wild that I'm like, how do we just find this? It was strange. It was strange. Such a weird area. It is cool. It seems like the two of you definitely make a good team and some weird stuff happens when you guys are together. That's pretty cool. I like that.

And this was in the same area too? Yeah. It was so wild. I'm like, what is going on here? And something, there was a little spring coming out of the mountain and going into the ocean. And it looked to me like something had tried to dam some of the water up with mud. It was just really odd thing. spirals and carvings everywhere. And I just, I don't know. I saw so many just things that I'd never. I grew up in California on the beaches. I never saw, not Northern California beaches, but like Pizmo and Central California. And I just never saw things like this on the beach.

Last year was the first time I had been to an Oregon beach. And it was amazing. Incredibly beautiful area too. Yeah. Just very odd. placement of shells. So that night, Jeremiah, we go back to, we had a lot of driving. So we get back to the cabin and we're tired. It's like 10, 10.30. And I realize that I've left something in the trunk. So Wendy's in there and I go down the five stairs and there, I'm going to kind of explain the layout.

So you come out of the cabin and there is a dirt. road that curves. And I did send you a picture of the layout of the land, the campground. So all the way to the left, all the way back. That is Saturday, the night before the orb incident, I walked that whole tree line right there. I walked right past and went all the way around. Well, there was some fly fishermen over here sitting by a fire. And I'm walking. I know. I'm I kind of jumped around. But I'm walking. This is Saturday night.

I'm walking that tree line and I have a flashlight and they hear me walking. And so they shut up real quick. But I hear those good old boys talking around the fire about the lights in the forest. No way. And so immediately they shut up. And I want to tell them so bad that I'm a Mufon investigator and I want to hear about their arbs of light in the forest. But I don't want to disturb.

then. So I walk all the way down. I get to that very back corner and I hear like two tree knocks in the very back. Yeah, because you've gotten close to the area. Yep. Is that a thing? I mean, it's just, it's something like it happened to us in Tennessee whenever we would go to an area of the campground. Yeah. Yeah, just two knocks. So then I decide I'm not going to go all the way around like I had been. I'm going to turn around and go down. there down the way that I came and down that road. Well, as I'm walking the curvature of that road, I get two pebbles thrown at my feet. And I'm 375 feet away from where I just heard the two knocks. And then I looked down and my phone wrote two handwritten notes that I didn't even know my phone could do. I didn't know you can do handwritten notes.

That's weird. It was so weird. And I'm like, that's weird that I got two knocks, two handwritten notes. and two pebbles thrown at my feet all within five minutes. Strange. Just a strange observation. So that was the night before. Okay. So then we go to the Hobbit Beach. We come back, 10 o'clock at night.

I realize I've left something in the trunk of the car. I go out to the trunk of the car. I hit the BB, grab my bag. And I look, because her trunk is facing that campground. All those guys have checked. out. It's Sunday night. They've got probably going back to work Monday. And I look all the way to the left. And I can see what I thought for one second. You know, it's like microseconds. You're thinking so fast. I'm like, that's a star. No, that is an airplane. No, that is. And then all of a sudden, it just

starts coming down and I can see it clearly because now it's in front of the dark part of the trees. It gets about four feet off the ground. And I'm like, wait a minute. That's one of the campers wait they're gone no that's someone looking with a flashlight they've left something they're back you know it's just seconds these thoughts are going through and then i think no that's someone running at me full speed with a flashlight and then i realize nobody is there is this thing is pulsating jermaya it is the brightest white i've ever seen in my life with a blue hue around it perfectly circular. It goes from looking like a star that just descended four feet off the ground to the size of a tennis ball,

the size of a grapefruit, the size of a volleyball. When it starts booking it at me, it is traveling so fast that I felt primal fear. the sheer size and the speed of it, I just couldn't put it in a box. I just, my biggest regret is that I did not stay there and just see what it was going to do. I couldn't. I felt like a lion was chasing me. I took one last look before I leap up four stairs and it is 10 feet behind me the size of a volleyball. It was the most incredible thing that's ever happened to me in my life.

That's very intense. Oh, my goodness. That's one of the more intense things I've heard from that area, too. Oh, my goodness. And then I was nervous that I invited it because when Wendy and I were coming back from Hobbit Beach, we turned onto that dirt road. And I saw a flash out her window. And I said, did you see that, Wendy?

And she's like, no, I'm driving. And I'm like, oh, my peripheral. Maybe I saw that flash. And I had forgotten about that until Wendy said you said you saw a flash. But Jeremiah, when it booked it straight to me, but when it got to that road, this is what blew my mind. It followed the curvature of the road. It went right along with the road. And I'm like, what is that?

That's strange to me. But I felt like I invited it because I said I had such a magical time at Hobbit Beach. I said if you, if there's anything there that is that amazing that just decorated with all those crabs that is love and unity, you are absolutely allowed to follow us. Yeah, that's. Okay. And then I thought maybe I shouldn't have said that. That's wild. The light, so no sound along with it, right?

None. Nothing. Nothing. Creepy. No, nothing. It was pretty wild. Yeah. And then the last, I think that was it.

And the last but not least, I just went two weeks ago. I was having, I was kind of emotional about some stuff. And I needed just a timeout, a break. And so I tried to pull a windy and look at the map and go, well, I've always heard about Lake Thunderbird, but everybody's always on this side, the marina, the trails. I'm like, I want to go to the other side. So I found on the other side little axe and little river, and there's a rock quarry there. And there were only two Airbnb, so I chose to stay at one. when I arrive, I mean, once I got to Lake Thunderbird, it took me probably 20, 25 minutes in the boonies to get to this little Airbnb.

I'm, I just, I'm blown away that seek and you shall find. What are the chances that the first time I've ever been to Lake Thunderbird, and I choose a location just off the topography, and holy cow, I was at a gold mine. I send the owner a message and I say, what kind of animals do you have here? Am I allowed to walk these 40 acres? And he's like, yeah, yeah, would you like me to give you a little tour? So he comes out, gives me a little tour. And I can hear goats, chickens, roosters, cows. And when I got there, it was like 7 p.m. at night.

And all the farm animals are going crazy, even the roosters. He comes out, walks around with me. He's a young buck. he's probably in his 20s, linguistics, military dude, going to Tinker. He's in the Air Force. Him and his roommate are both there.

And he says, I just moved here. I said, what animals are here? And he's like, well, I don't know a ton about this land because I just moved here June 20th.

And I'm like, you just moved here June 20th? And he said, somehow we got on animals and strangeness. And he said, there are some strange sounds out here. We were talking about the animals. And I said,

like what? And I could tell that he was hesitant. Well, as we're talking, Jeremiah, I hear in the distance, I want to try to impersonate it, but I don't think I can. I hear what sounds like a man pretending to cockado do to do. No way. And him and I look at each other and he just looks like a deer in headlights. And I go, was that your buddy? And he said, no, I don't know what that was.

And he said, I'm telling you, there's some weird noises at her. I'm like, what? Like, what kind of strange things happened? And he tells me, I had a dead chicken on my front porch last night. And I'm like, you did? He said, something's taken my neighbor's chickens. And he said, and every feather was plucked out of it. And then he said last week, he had a dead chicken on his grill.

And half of the feathers were plucked out of it. And it was still alive. That's weird. Then he said the week before, he had another dead chicken on the side of his house. That was all the fluff. They were all pluck. So that picture that I was showing you, he said, and yeah, these cans right here have been sitting on this table, and every day we get two feathers there. And he opened his door and showed me, and he had a ton of feathers. Yeah, I'm going to show that real quick.

Yeah, show it. I said, I'm going to say something. Please don't think I'm strange. But do you think you have Sasquatch on your property? And he said, that's what my buddy and I have been trying to, we've been wondering. We've been wondering if we have. So the heat comes. out kind of confirms everything that's happening on the property. And then his buddy proceeds to tell me that two weeks after they moved in after June 20th, they were sitting by the fire. And there was a huge tree and a bunch of bushes, probably 30 feet from the fire. And he said he could hear a growl that was so deep. It reverberated their chest. And they got up in the house. And so I sent him a couple historical reports from the BFRO to show him. No, you're not crazy. I think you really do have Sasquatch on your property.

I was just more tripped out that the one place that I choose to go and it's there. Yeah, that's weird as I'll get out. But it makes sense with everything else that you've said, to be honest. Did he say if the chickens had, did they still have heads? Yeah, yeah. He said they were just dead and all the feathers were plucked out of two of them. And then half of the feathers plucked out of one of them and one was still alive. Yeah.

Isn't that wild? That's some, that's some wild stuff. My goodness. You were going for it. It sounds like you have, I mean, you were talking earlier, you have a future plan pretty soon to go to a wilderness area nearby and check it out. Wendy's driving down tomorrow morning. I'm meeting her at 10.30 a.m. at the Sutton Wilderness and we're doing the Indian Point Trail.

We're going to try to hike two trails tomorrow. She didn't care if it's 105 degrees. She's going to hike. Wow. And so I'm glad she's coming to Oklahoma. Yeah. That's awesome. What a cool story you've had, a cool journey you've had over the few years.

Because, I mean, it's really not that long if you think about it. No, six. Well, eight years, well, six years. I remember 2020 when the world shut down. That's when they told us about disclosure. And I'm like, they're telling us that because nobody's paying attention. So, yeah, it's been six years. And it's, it's definitely my, my thoughts have changed. I had a question for you, Jeremiah. Yes. Yes, absolutely. All of the podcasts that I've listened to that you have done, I mean, I can tell they're obviously pretty intelligent. Who do you think? Who do you think is my husband and I have this argument? Who's smarter? Humans are Bigfoot? So.

Who's more intelligent? I say. They're smarter because they notice stay in the woods. Yeah. Man, and a lot of people get bent out of shape. over this, but I think they're, I think they're absolutely smarter. I mean, just the stuff that's reported that happens alongside of them. And I think a lot of it is that they know how to do things that we have forgotten to do as a society.

And I go off that because of you hear all these different reports of people going to certain areas, like like Oak Hole and Oak Ridge or just random like power spots and and then they have almost like it's like they remember how to do things or they have things unlocked and it's just I think that we have we've forgotten to do a lot of things and that probably has to do with like technology and stuff like that but they definitely know how to do things a lot a lot more than we do. And yeah, of course, you know, hey, we can...

And they're definitely more adaptable. More adaptable, can survive more for sure. But, I mean, that's my thought. And there's so many people that get bent out of shape because they want humans to be like the smartest thing out there. But I don't think that's the case. And I've never seen one. But what I've experienced is there says something very smart out there. it is smart enough to respond to you when you ask it verbally to do something and some weird stuff out there. It is so weird.

That's funny that that was my next question is, do you think that their abilities are something that we either used to be able to do and have forgotten or something that we will evolve to do? I think it's more, yeah, that we've forgotten too. And I mean, that's the whole rabbit, rabbit trail where it's like you look into like, oh, what's it called? It's a podcast where it goes into people with autism being able to, you know, the telepathy tapes, right? You've heard of those. And like, it's just a fascinating case study. And I think that all of that has there's some connection there. there absolutely is i know um my husband works with the autism community oh cool he has worked with

prodigious savants and it's pretty incredible so i've gone down that rabbit hole for sure too and listened to all the telepathy tapes it's it's incredible yeah there's something going on patty thank you so much for coming on on the show uh i want to make sure are you an individual where you know pretty much is there anything that you want to make sure people know about if you're a person where I'm open for contact

or I don't think do you have a YouTube channel I mean you're just one of those special individuals I'm just a seeker and want to know more curious little cat so I mean people can find me on Facebook but no I don't have any platforms but thank you for your platform. You're really changing and normalizing it. Thank you. That's that's the goal is to give people a place to talk about what they've experienced and also to just get it out there.

And one of these days, we're going to start here and stuff. I think we are. I think we are. But we will stay in touch for sure. I know that you will you'll stay in touch and keep me up to date with what's going on. But thank you so much for coming on the show today, Betty. Thank you. Thank you and bless you. Thanks again to Patty for coming on the show. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter of your own, I would love to hear from you. You can send me an email with your encounter at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. I've come out with a free report about the top 10 Bigfoot hotspots. You can go over to bit.ly forward slash BFS report. I'm Jeremiah Byron. Thanks for listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'll see you in the woods.