Bigfoot Society - It's in Their Eyes!

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

Join Bigfoot Society as host Jeremiah engages with Mark, a lifelong outdoorsman, about his thrilling Bigfoot encounters. Mark shares captivating stories from his youth in Illinois and his adult life in Tennessee. Mark recounts eerie eye-shine sightings of Sasquatch with glowing red eyes, mysterious tree structures twisted by unknown forces, and unsettling experiences with strange animal behaviors. From hearing unsettling owl calls that seemed too loud to be normal owls, to discovering deer carcasses with skin mysteriously stripped, Mark's encounters are both intriguing and unnerving. He also discusses his theories on what Bigfoot might be and his advice for those venturing into Sasquatch territory. This episode offers a deep dive into Mark's personal account of Bigfoot activity, providing listeners with a unique perspective on these mysterious creatures in the woods of Tennessee and Illinois.Sasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost.Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to [e-mail]. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societySupport Bigfoot Society by checking out these businesses and products we use below:Beam (better sleep)https://share.shopbeam.com/hnpc4ypeWildgrain (better bread)https://wildgrain.com/a/refer-a-friend/redeem/6ogi3frocb2zwtbx8gx8lksvnpgb6tnxbhqlhfk2/8487Goodchop (better meat)https://www.goodchop.com/plans?c=TB1-J803T6DKO&plans_ab=true&utm_campaign=clipboard&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=raf-share-hptSeed (better probiotic)https://refer.seed.com/x/JQ3nHFMedi-Share (better health care)https://bit.ly/4iHULkoRepurpose.iohttps://repurpose.io?fpr=28951Descript (transcription and visual editing) https://get.descript.com/r3bclm1qi6r3Streamyard (platform for recording)https://streamyard.com/?fpr=bigfootsociety Riverside.fm (platform for recording) https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=bigfootsocietyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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How's it going, man? Good, Jeremiah. How are you doing? Doing great. Always a good night when I'm able to talk to someone about their Bigfoot interactions and learn some stuff. And I enjoy that and give you a platform to share what happened to you. So, you know, Mark, I know that you've already said before that we've got a lot of ground to cover. So, you know, I'm going to go ahead and give the mic over to you and we'll see where we go from here, man. okay but like I said you interject any time you like yes sir yeah all right I got a lot of stories well the main reason I had called this place wasn't to when I say this place I'm in your

podcast I've been listening to you for a while and I've been listening to podcasts Sasquatch podcast for a good almost 10 years now. And lately I've gotten bored with a lot of the other ones before I came across shores. And some recently, it's like they'll show a picture of a Sasquatch with a monkey nose. And I will not look at those at all. These things have a hooded nose. They don't have a monkey nose.

And if it's got a monkey nose, go to some other podcast. and come to Jeremiah. He's got pictures of them. They kind of look right. So I can agree with that. Thank you. I try. But the main reason I hear,

I've heard a podcast. Am I allowed to say the number? Sure, yeah. Go right ahead. Okay. Episode 660, there was this lady on. And, you know, I don't call any. This is the first podcast I've ever talked to.

or even emailed. But anyway, she was so upset about this place where I used to run around when I was a kid that she got walked out of the Garden of the Gods and she was just terrified. And the whole episode, she couldn't stop being terrified. So I thought, you know, that's happened to me my entire life. I moved there when I was a kid when I was about 14, 15 years old with my father and the family. what little he had left and we lived right at the edge of that

not Guard of Gods but in that area I won't say where but they're just just all kinds of experiences but when I was a kid I didn't know that what I knew about Sasquatches was I knew about

the Patterson Gimlin film and at the time when I was a kid I thought well that's the last crazy wild animal they're about to go extinct and yeah makes sense they're out west out in California somewhere but there's no way that they're still here just like there's no bears

there's no saber-toothed tigers and such but anyway I used to run around the woods when I was a kid because there was nothing better to do and so many times I just can't count them they got to the point to where I just stopped paying attention that I heard the same sounds

that she heard and they they just follow you out And I have stopped and turned around and yelled at something that's not there. It's like, who are you? Where are you? Why are you following me? I've screamed that out loud on my way home because I used to do like, I don't know, five, six miles, one mile.

I used to go down this creek and I guess I was entertainment for them because I used to just run down there. And before parkour was a thing, the further down the course, the further down the creek, creek bed you go, the bigger the rocks get. You have to jump. And I had it. It was like playing hopscotch for me, I guess, on a grander scale. And I would jump from one to the other, and I get to the end. I'm just out of breath, and it's about a mile and a half long. And then when I'm walking back, and this is on an easy day, just when I'm out playing.

And then on my walk back, you know, I'm still worn out. But then by the time they get about, I don't know, half mile from home or a quarter or three-quarters of mile from home, I hear all these leaves just swish, swish, swish once I get into the leaves after I get out of the canyon. And I get in the leaves, and I hear all this. And I even tried the, you know, pretend you're going to take a step and don't and caught them a couple times doing that. It's like they put their foot down. But when there's no such thing as a Sasquatch, and you have no answer for that, you still have to go about your merry way. And it's like, well, okay, I'll just shrug my shoulders. Same thing with a tree knocks. I heard so many tree knocks in my life.

I just ignore them now. I don't even pay attention to them anymore. And when I learned about a tree knock, a lot of people think that's a warning. I don't think that's a warning. I think that is a, well, kind of an invitation. They let you know, they're trying to let you know that they know that you're there and you're supposed to pay attention. You're supposed to not respond, but to be aware and they know what you're thinking. You don't have to respond with it. You don't have to go tear down a tree,

make yourself a baseball bat and hit a tree with it to respond. They just want you to know they're there. And I think it irritates them to the people that walk by and don't understand. It makes them angry. They're not looking for attention necessarily, but you need to know after you walk past this point

that there's a possibility of danger. I'm not saying that they're all killers. Some are, some aren't. Mark, can you take a minute? I'm just really curious. If someone was to ask you what you think Bigfoot is, how do you describe what they are? I'll tell you what it isn't.

It's not a giganticophagus. The amount of things that that animal would have to do. Number one, they've only found a tooth and part of a jawbone, and then they built a beast around it somehow. That's just not good enough for me. I need more evidence. And from what they found, they said he ate bamboo all the time, you know, just a big bamboo eater. It's pretty hard for an animal to switch from being just a herbivore to going straight to straight meat, like supposedly a sask, well, they're an omnibate. Well, they're an omnibate. of war they'll eat anything and it's really difficult in the in the amount of time that it takes

for something to evolve if that exists even to get all the clay cross the bearing straight from china to get over into the rocky mountains and all that stuff in and or whatever in alaska and the yukon and turn yourself to the saskeroths that is now planting trees upside down with the roots sticking up in the air it's it's a really far stretch for me so i know it's not that There's a lot of stories I've heard about, you know, DNA. You know, people have gathered DNA on these things. But they've traced one side. I don't know enough about it.

I'm not an expert. They've traced one side. And I don't know if it's tied to us. And then there's another. And then the other side is like it's a, it's nothing on the planet. It's nothing that we've had any experience with. We don't know this particular DNA. So I don't know what to think about that.

I don't know if everybody knows and it's shut down. There's a lot of theories out there. They say there's Nephilim. And that's a possibility after what I've seen of these things. I mean, I've never seen nothing like what I saw. And anyway, but maybe if it has anything, maybe some has something to do with some kind of religion. or whatever and there are there's you know half the world is trying to shut that down and the other half is trying to promote the other so i don't think we're ever gonna find out unless they rise up i can't imagine

fifting these guys grouping together and then start running through neighborhoods that would just be a bad thing what they are but they're not a monkey i know they're not a monkey okay it sound like a monkey they act like a a monkey sometimes and I got monkey stories because they did monkey things to me but they're still not a monkey. It's really, they are a frightful thing. But I didn't know it when I was a kid and when I was younger. You know, just water on the ducks back. I had bigger and better things do.

One thing I didn't do is like there's a lot of people on a podcast say they're, they hunt a lot, they've hunted all their lives they've been out of the woods they've shot things like all that stuff and like i never did that i was always quiet i tried like when i was telling you about running down that creek i was trying to be as quiet as i possibly could but i never saw many animals i've had a lot of dears walk up on me you know i've had a lot of wild animal experiences but you know i i just i wasn't a hunter people ask me and i know how to people ask me do you hunt yeah i i hunt when when I'm hungry. Do you fish?

I fish when when I'm hungry. That's the only time I hunt fish. But I'm very good at it. But I just don't go out and make, you know, I don't throw a bunch of orange on and sit in the top of a tree about 20 feet high. I just don't, I'm not interested in any of that. So I've always been able to feed myself when I need it. But, you know, they're grocery stores too.

I'm not an animal activist. It's not, I don't believe in killing these things, but, you know, I think they're out there for a reason, and that reason is that things, you know, times get tough, there'll be plenty of food out there for me. I don't need to be going out there killing everything every year, and there's six or seven less than there was before hunting season. I just don't do it because I'm not that hungry. So anyway, and so far as what you ask me, I'll try to get back on track here. they're not a monkey it's a secret but somebody knows the end of that secret because they're not telling us they you can't talk to anybody that you know they'll make you look i mean i got a lot of people that i've tried to tell this to no i would call them i guess normal people i would thought would

be willing to hear this part of what i saw or experienced and they'll shut you down immediately make you look like a fool. They can be a friend of yours, and they'll do it. I've had plenty of those do it. And it's not like I'll never speak to you again kind of thing. It's like they don't even want you to bring it up. Up in Illinois, no one goes out and runs around the woods like I did. No one.

I mean, nobody. Nobody went to school with. I was up there for a good five years before I joined the Navy. I had to get out of there because there's no jobs. So I had to join the military. I didn't have to. I just thought I was going to be a Navy seat. and la la la la next thing i know me in san diego so anyhow nobody everybody up there all the people

had lived there all the lives like i said i only moved there when i was like 14 15 years old probably visited once when i was 12 or 13 i had a house in tennessee i was in tennessee i lived on a hill in a hollow in a hollow on a hill kind of and uh i had this house somebody had built it I bought it for a song. I was married. But my dogs were sitting on the porch, kind of in the middle of nowhere. You got neighbors, but you can't see or hear them. So I'm sitting on the couch watching TV,

and my door's always open. So the dogs just, they just started barking, hair on their back came up because they were just hanging out on the porch, and they ran straight in the house and ran straight to the bedroom. which they never do or are allowed to do they come in the house but they're just they're not going to be sleeping in the bed and stuff like that but anyhow i thought that was odd like i'm going

and they're barking all the way inside the house i'm like what are you doing i mean something that never happens so i kind of get up i look around the corner where they went they're nowhere to be seen they're hiding under the bed or something so i got to the porch and i got like a 35 watt light on my porch and I'm looking around looking around and I look down and I see I shine and I had this big brush pile where I'd cut all these shrubs away I'd just gotten I had gotten back from Florida and the shrubs grew to like 20 feet tall you know they're kind of shrubs you if you don't trim them they're going to go nuts so I had cut all those out and I made this big brush pile down the hill not you know 10 15 feet off the porch and so

I see these two red eyes coming through there. And the first thing I thought was, well, I've never seen red eyes shine in my life. I don't know what this is. And so I'm standing there waiting for it to come through because obviously that's what my dogs were barking at. There was a coon. But I've never known a dog run from a coon. So all these thoughts are going through my head at the time. All at the same time.

So I was like, okay, okay, come through, come through. It looked like kept coming towards me, coming towards me, coming towards me. And it was an optical illusion. Then I realized I'm not looking at something coming through this breast file. I'm looking at something that's on the opposite side of the brush pile. Now I can see through that. And this thing's looking right at me. And I want to describe the eye shine.

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These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. I know what happened. It looks like if you've got a little campfire or something like that in the coals or after all the woods burnt down and you see all the coals and it's swirling around in the same colors, it's inside their head, it's in their eyes, and they're looking at you with that. I'm going, what is that?

what is that? And I even said that, I said, what are you doing? I said, what are you doing? And this thing took one step toward me again. And it was so black, you couldn't see the body. All you could see was its eyes. It was so black out. There was overcast skies that night. It wasn't raining. It was just overcast. No starlight, no nothing. All I had was that stupid light, which didn't shine into the forest far enough to light up anything. and this thing just kind of it gave me and it looked autistic I have an autistic cousin and I know what that looked like and it looked autistic and it looked off to its right which was to my left I had a spring down the hill from there water spring and it was kind of dry at the time and I think it just came up to get a drink of water the

dogs barked at it and came up and started to come up to the porch by the time I went out there. But anyway, I saw those eyes, and it's not that it's just like a red light, you know, not like a flashlight. There are things swirling inside there just like it's like spirals. It was amazing. But I still shrugged that off. I didn't know what it was.

I didn't know what to call it. I wasn't into Bigfoot. I kind of was, you know, I still had the opinions like, boy, every place I went because I used to ride a horse from there, a couple of things. miles from the house just to feed her you know every day or so you know single back or single rain bareback i'm kind of an indian and anyhow you know during that time that was in the 90s i think you know that was in the 90s when that happened and uh anyhow it just turned its head and walked away i walked in the house sat down i got the dogs out of the bedroom i had to go back there and

and calm them down, tell them everything was okay. They finally came back out, but they wouldn't go back out on the porch. They stayed in the living room and watched TV. They weren't interested in going out there anymore. And I wasn't afraid. It didn't scare me. I just thought, well, I'll figure this out later. Because, you know, I spotlighted a lot of animals,

and I know what color eyes are. And this is just, to me, was just an animal I hadn't spotlighted yet or seen. And I'll figure it out later. I wouldn't afraid. I wasn't scared. But now thinking back, see, this thing was about eight feet tall because where it was shining through this brush pile was a straight down slope

that's just like you can't walk down it. If you get over that edge, you're going to be on a slide. You're just going to slide down in the mud. So how this thing had walked up to me through that brush pile, it was standing, I mean, 10 feet down, 9, 10 feet down, and the level of its eyes didn't climb higher. It just kind of stayed straight. Once it got to a certain point, it stopped.

And when I asked, what are you doing? It turned and walked away. It was kind of like, it was an apologetic look. It was like, you know, sorry, I just came to get a drink of water. You know, this is what I've come up with later on in life. But I didn't understand at the time, and I just went about my business. Mark, do you feel like it understood you when you said that to it? Yes, absolutely.

Why do you say that? Because they do it now to me to this day. I just went back to those places I was telling you about when I was a kid. Yeah. Just a couple of years ago or a year ago, I'm a mushroom hunter, extraordinary, kind of. You're not real successful at it. But, you know, I went back to the same place just a year. two years and they know who I am. They dropped off a bobcat. I had to put a bobcat back.

There were two coons. That was more wildlife than I'd seen in a lot of years when I was running out there. That was one other thing. When I was running around, I'm trying to be as quiet as I possibly can. I was practicing on being as quiet as I possibly could. I'm not out there making a bunch of racket, and that was always my goal. I used to go out walking to friends of mine, and I wouldn't make it a quarry mile and I turn around and take them back home because they can't shut their mouth. I have a rule of like don't speak, don't talk. When you're out here in the woods with me, you're not allowed to speak. Right.

Not because I'm hunting anything, just don't say a word. Don't say, there's nothing to comment about with something, and nothing serious happens. So there's no reason for you to say anything. And I think they have a little respect for that. And they watch me do that as a child. I didn't just run down there one day and have this little exercise. I used to do that constantly because there's nothing, absolutely nothing to do there. Nothing.

So it turned me into a wild animal. Oh, boy. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When they left the bobcat and the other animals for you, what physical state were those animals left in? Well, me and my girlfriend had walked down the creek and like, you know, she knows not to talk. and that's don't take anybody take a pinch to that she's like she's kind of like me right so you know we're walking down there i'm being careful with her so i'm having to concentrate on making sure she's

okay because it's not an environment she's used to right we're not thundering down the creek and like look at this look at that hey this is what i used to do here i wasn't doing that we're being quiet we're just walking down there walking slow she knows the history of place you know so she's She was fully aware. No surprise to her. But surprisingly enough, she managed to spraying her ankle. And so we sat down to rest, and I hadn't gotten to, I was just maybe a quarter mile away from my objective because there's something really a bunch of cool stuff at the end.

So I'm looking down the creek, looking down the creek, and we had two dogs with us. So my dog had gone to the top. So you're in kind of like a little miniature canyon. the woods are straight up and down, not straight up and down, but you don't want to get up there and try to climb out of that creek bed. The creek bed is essentially your road and your highway. You're not going to wander around anywhere other than the creek bed. But in places, so this dog comes down with what looks like from off the top of the hill behind me. We had sat down to rest and decided we're going to turn around and get out of there.

and my dog comes down the hill with something in his mouth that looks like a squirrel. I thought, oh, geez, don't kill the squirrel. I don't want to have to, I don't want to deal with no squirrel today. You know, just don't do it. So I go over there and say, no, no, no, no, no, because I'm thinking she's getting ready to chop it, but she wasn't. She'd be a motherly about it.

She had found a bobcat kitten, brought it down to the bottom, and set it down before I even got there. You know, she's like looking at her. What is this? So I could go and tell you how I thought that may have happened, but it was just weird. Weird. So I pick up this cat and I go, what is going on?

Why is there a cat out here in the middle of nowhere? A stray cat, a stray kitten. And I started looking at it. Well, then I found out it's a female. A turnover is on the back. This thing's screaming and raising all kinds of cane. And just like, I'm rolling it over and I'm like, what kind of cat is this? it's a bobcat oh no now what am I going to do if I get caught with this bobcat I might go to jail or get a fine or something like that now I've got a bobcat that's got no mother what do I do I take it home try and nurse it back to health which I've not had much luck with with wild animals like so I put it I took it climbed up the hill with it and it was kind of like a stair step thing where water would rush down through there and it washed all the dirt out so now you're walking up technically steps

of the stones or whatever geologic thing is underneath the dirt. I'm climbing up this thing and I got the dirt all around my head and this cat's just raising him. I didn't want some big bobcat coming around and latching on my head and getting this cat. It's terrible scary. But I think I did the right thing. I took it to the top of the hill. I looked around and tried to find to see if there was someplace cave or something this thing

came out of, but it didn't. So I set it on a rock up, you know, next to a bluff that was the top of it and got my dogs away from it and went back down and, you know, told the dogs to leave it alone, you know, and just hope for the best that this thing's screaming and the mother will come back and pick it up. I think she dropped it because my dogs might have scared her off while she was moving it from place to place. I don't know. That's the only thing that seems feasible to me. She was in the middle of moving her kittens, and my dog showed up, and she dropped the thing. So I got to the bottom of this thing. When I got back and thank God, you know, I didn't have to fight a bobcat around my neck that day.

And I get to the bottom, and I look right across the creek, and there's this long stringy tree, and a lot of people see them. They talk about them. It's like, you know, Sasquatches will make a loop of a tree. And I've seen plenty of those in Tennessee, lots of them. Anyway, so I see this little stringy tree. You know, it's like 25, 30 feet tall. Those happen because they're trying to reach up to the light.

And, you know, most of them eventually just fall over and die. But this thing had a twist in it. Something with two hands took it and twisted it about, you know, enough to make a scar. and it was only about maybe a year old. Other things there, when I used to run around, I used to ridge run, they used to take cedar trees and they'd twist the top of those. I'd go there, go through there one day, and I'd come back a week later, and then the cedar tree I had walked past will be twisted up,

like some hurricane got a hold of the top of it and just twist it up, and they don't break it off, they just twist them. that happened me in Tennessee when I'd ride my horse out to where I'd take my horse out to graze and they used to twist cedar trees all the time and nothing can come through and do that no windstorm no nothing they broke out I had a bunch of a hundred foot tall popper trees they snapped the tops out of like three or four of them and it's kind of they line my driveway they snapped those out and threw them down to the ground they snapped a number another one out on another time I was coming back from Florida I worked back and forth from

Florida traveled around and you know a lot of these memories are hard to remember because I'm not sitting still I haven't sat still in 50 years I am now retired now and I sit I've sat still for about a year so anyhow you know they snap off trees they do all kinds of stuff the other thing I want to talk about and comment about is, you know, my problem with them because you hear about, well, they're evil or, well, they're kind. You know, we leave them peanut butter. It's really, we're habituating and you shouldn't do that. I don't, I don't believe, I tried to talk to my cousin into doing that. And then after I heard a few more videos, I called her back, said, don't do it, no, do it, don't do it. I mean, I'm just north of where the

I saw a dog man track out there where I used to hang out. I mean, nobody's going to believe any of this. And when I was gone in the Navy, that's what happened down in Katie's Kentucky, that dogman spectacle that killed some campers. I was in the Navy then. But before that, we were coming up from Tennessee, me, my little brother and my dad. I was about down on 13, 14. And we were going to go deer hunt at this property that my grandpa just bought,

which was the same area I'm telling me about it. We eventually moved up there and lived from Tennessee. But anyhow, we're going down this road from Cady's Kentucky. I-24 was under construction, and I think at that time, you had to take that detour. So my dad had just bought this brand new truck. He's driving like 81 miles an hour down this two-lane road. it's scary I don't know why I just like you know I don't remember I don't remember getting to Katie's Kentucky but I remember driving through that road and I don't remember getting to that

particular night up to Illinois but we made it but a cop pulled us over because he was going so fast 81 miles an hour on road like that is a big money money grab for you know the police or the county you know and all he wanted to do is see my dad's license told him slow down. He looked around a couple times and he got back in his car. And I've heard people that, I've heard podcasts where people go up in that area and they have mentioned

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And they're like, no, because there's no way out of this. What are we going to find if we find something? It's not going to be a good place to stop. It's a scary place. The whole place out there is kind of scary. So I don't know what to say to people. I don't want you going up there where I stop around. It's not far from Gardner, guys, but it doesn't have to be.

It doesn't have to be a particular area. Those things, I agree with Mr. Elmer. Those things are everywhere, and they're especially everywhere down there. But in so far as my experience has been so far, they're polite as long as you are. Now, we have a huge problem. That county is called the Deer Capital of Illinois. You've got everybody from Chicago coming down there at Deer Season. It lasts about three days.

They have a big festival in town. I won't say what town. I guess I could. I don't have to be that much of a jerk. dog Honda they have a big deer festival down there every year but everybody for chicago comes down there it sounds like a war zone for three days but there's nobody that goes out in the middle of that shoots a deer nobody you can hear all the gun fired is coming from the road the public road the private properties and all places you can pull in on the edge but nobody walks in the

middle of that they don't they just ain't got it in them it's it's a scary scary place I mean, I could talk all day about how scary that place it is. Do you feel like you've had interactions with them in that area of Illinois as well, or has it been mainly in Tennessee where we've been talking about? No, it's Illinois. Illinois got it all started. My problem was I was in denial, I guess. You know, these things don't exist anymore.

I heard all kinds of sounds. This wood knock thing. Now I listen to a podcast because wood knocks make no sense to me. Don't tell me that you're walking through the woods and all of a sudden you hear a wood knock. Well, that would require a saw squash to be standing there all day or all week or all month waiting for you to walk by to hit a tree with a stick. He just automatically comes up with it. We know they don't walk around the clubs in their hand. Well, we don't know for sure, but they don't need clubs.

That's another thing. They don't need clubs. They don't need weapons. If they are an evolved species, they decided to evolve into something that doesn't need anything but themselves. It's the most awesome thing when you think about it. But anyhow, there's nobody, no Sasquatch is going to stand there with a stick in his hand, you know, just happen upon you crossing his path and then smack a tree. They're not going to stand there and not going to snap a limb off and then snap the other end off because it's hard enough

because every stick you pick up around a tree is a dead stick. And if you hit it, it just sounds like, you know, it's not going to make much noise. Not enough for you to hear it. So I was listening one podcast one time and it finally made sense to me. They can make that sound with their tongue. I believe that because if you're going to instantly, and if it were the case that you were able to surprise the sauce clutch, the first thing he would do is stopping his track and make that sound and let you know if you're not less than you should be that he's close by it could also be in my opinion an invitation it's

also letting you know that we know you're here so far so good don't do anything stupid but you are passing the point of no return if you're aware of it but see now I'm aware of it back then I wasn't I heard somebody tree knocks I just you know I just ignore them thinking, well, maybe this tree smacked against another one as I'm walking through. You know, a little breeze comes by and got two trees that are tangled up and they just make that noise constantly. I don't know. And that's what I would always experience. But, you know, that's not the case because I would also look at top, you know, after I would hear something like that,

and have that opinion. And I had that opinion when I was a kid. I would look up as I'm walking through for about, you know, at least a 50 or 100 feet because it's that close. to me. It wasn't like six miles away, and I'm looking for the trees that are rubbing against each other. They're not there. They're never there. Never not one time. I heard so many, and now I just, any time I hear it now, I just shrug my shoulders and I just keep on going, because it's not a threat. I don't take it as a threat. Are there any other sounds that you're hearing out there as well? Yeah, in South Carolina, they come down and we've got here. We came here

from Florida and was camping out in National Forest. And there was this two Sonsquatches. It was a boy and a girl. I wouldn't say, well, you could say male and female, but they seemed to be young because they were out having a good time. And they start screaming at the dogs. They'll yell directly at the dogs. And then the dogs would start just raising all kinds of miles around.

And they just kept messing with them, messing with them. And then they tore up a tree. And I heard the first the boy Sasquatch yelled, and then the female was down in the canyon. See, from my years out in the woods, I can kind of see through the dark, kind of, you know, it's nothing special. But I can see what direction or something, especially it's going to be that kind of noise. I know which direction they're looking. I know how big it is. I mean, deer, whatever.

Anything close by, I'll be able to figure it out. I don't know. and we hear them all the time. I don't go. I haven't been outside, you know, technically for a while because I'm trying to heal from some injuries that have occurred over time. Anyhow, so they do it out here too. So after we got out of the campground, oh, and then I went down the next day.

I went down that road where we were camping, and there was this tree just torn all the shreds and leaning up against the wall of the other trees that were on the side of the road. And I was like, what did that? It wasn't something that dropped off, got cut off. It was like stripped. I had one strip stripped through it. It looked like no lightning hit it.

There was no storm that came through. There was no wind that tore it up. It just got, it was really, it was skinny, but it was long and big kind of at the same time. And it's like, that's exactly where I heard the noise. That was a night before, you know, last night heard that. and it was just really funny. And they love messing with dogs. And that's my next story.

It's like after we got out of the campground, after I'd come up here, I'd gotten a job because COVID and the company I worked for went out of business. Two months before COVID, then COVID hit, and then I'm stuck in Florida. Finally,

I found a job in South Carolina, so we moved up here, but we just went camping because not really good housing much up here. So finally we found a place in the country 120 days later after camping. It's perfect. And it went along after that. I heard Sasquatches mess with the dogs up here, and there's a lot more dogs.

There's a lot of neighbors around, but you can't, kind of you can't see him. It's around a lake. You know, there's not many water sources here, so they're going to be here if they are here. So what we would hear is these dogs just going crazy, going nuts. and so what I do is I'll bark back I'll tell the dogs to shut up I'll bark at the dogs not bark like a dog but I will

sound like a softwatch, a mean one if they don't shut up I get a little meaner and I get as mean as I have to get until all of them across the country try to shut up because I can't stand barking dogs I just can't deal with it I don't like a dog that just barks constantly

my dogs aren't allowed to bark unless something important is going on I'm not I don't have that. And then when you've got a whole neighborhood, not a neighborhood, but a countryside full of dogs barking at the same time. And the thing I was telling you about before, I can tell when the dogs are barking and what direction they're barking at. And then it kind of points out where this is. And they'll all point straight to the perpetrator. And I think the reason they do that is because they want all the dogs to make all that noise so they can come and raid

whatever they want to raid, and no one hears anything except dogs barking. I think they use those dogs to their advantage. They did the same things to the coyotes when I lived in Tennessee. Coyotes used to yip and yapping yapping, yap, and there'd be like 50 of them. Why in the world would a bunch of a pack of 50 coyotes? You're lucky to see two or three or four at a time if you ever see them. Fifty coyotes all rounded up, and then you listen up the hill a little further, and you're here another big coyote.

Just, oh, and you think, you know, back then I thought, well, that must be the king coyote. Well, the king coyote was a Sasquatch running, there's all kinds of running them through the mountain, getting ready to eat one of them. And they're all gathering up and hoping, you know, strengthen numbers. There's all kinds of rock piles off the side of my property. I had a house of 16 acres there on the side of a mountain.

There was no neighbors. There was a neighbor, you know, There aren't neighbors, but, you know, I had a whole, I don't know, 20, 30 miles out in front of me. I could just go and explore any time I wanted to and not cross a, not cross the street. And there's stone rock piles out there that make no sense to me. There were people that lived on the side of that mountain. You'll find their foundations or maybe their chimneys. They were close by the house.

But the places all these rock piles are, there's no reason to think you could even, you know, cut all. the trees out and plant corn in it. It was just stupid. Maybe they're Indian graves. I don't know. There were some that were like cone-shaped. It wasn't just like a rock pile. You know, you'd see, you know, eight feet long, three feet high, four feet wide. There's plenty of those.

And then there's others that are just like stacked up like a cone. Strange things. Just, you know, I see strange things everywhere. I mean, not that. I'm not making them up. I see them and that's what I see and what are they? I don't know. And was that at Tennessee?

That was in Tennessee. Did I tell you about the owls? No, not yet. No. Oh, okay, the owls. After the eyeball thing, the red eyes, after that, it wasn't long. It was the same year and the same spring. And that was, see, I'm trying to put this together because, you know, it's so long ago.

and I have to say, was that the same year? Was it a week ago, a week before? Anyhow. So this owl goes out and starts hooting. So I get out on the porch, the same porch, and I start hooting back at this thing. And I'm pretty good at it. And so I'm hooting at this owl.

I'm hooting this owl. And then I realize that this may not be an owl. It's giant. It's huge. All I can see is, you know, just past the, you know, It's just a wall of darkness through the woods, middle of night, about 10, 30, 13, 11 o'clock at night. This thing's hooting. I'm hooting back.

I'm having a good time. And I'm sitting there thinking, I think I'm going to walk up there and see what that is. I was about to take step off the porch, and another one off to my left at about 45 degrees did the same thing, started hooting too. So now I've got two of these things hooting. So I'm hooting at both of them. I decide to back up. I put my foot back on the porch.

I think these can't be owls because they're too big. They sound like they're six foot tall. Now I've listened to owls for, I know what an owl sound. I've been in the woods planning. I know what a normal size owl sounds like. These things were just way too loud. You could feel the vibration from these owls, hooting. Then they just one shut up and the other one shut up and I shut up and I went in the house.

but there was no way I was going to go out there and see if I could get them you know out of the trees or get a look at them they were just too big I've heard a lot of stories about that

but I had the end oh the other thing gave away was like at the end of an owl call when you hear a real owl it's always a hoo-hoo to you these things would growl at the end of it and that's when that was the dead giveaway for me. But still at this time, I didn't think Bigfoot still existed. And then when I told you

about those trees getting snapped off, that happened about, oh, probably three or four weeks later, all those trees were in my driveway and they just snapped everything off the top. So maybe they got mad at me because I was, you know, technically mocking them. I don't know. Mark, I want to, I want to make sure I'm on the right page. So you had the owl, the owl thing happened after you had the visual with the one standing there with the swirls. And you still were not 100%. Still didn't put two and two together.

So what, is that what you're asking? Yeah, what pushed you over then? Podcasts. Okay, okay. I was raised. I was raised in a family. If you brought up anything like that, told any stories like that, they would make you pay for it. You don't bring it up, don't talk about it.

That doesn't exist. That's crazy. So I was stuck with that in my brain. I'm not stuck with that anymore. So that's why it's taking me so long to come around. It wasn't like I'm an automatic sold enthusiast. I was just telling my girlfriend, it's like, you know, a lot of people go out in the woods. They hear a tree knock and they stop in their tracks.

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I just ignore them and I just keep on going. You know, that's stupid. I mean, if I knew there were softwatches in, I'd stop my tracks. I wouldn't wear around, turned around, and went home. Sure. I didn't know, you know, I just thought they were all dead. I didn't think they existed. I knew they existed in the past.

Right. I believed it thoroughly. I used to sit out when I would ride my horse out there and let her eat, and I'd look across the countryside down the mountain and down the grassway under the power lines where we were all sitting and where I was sitting and just wishing to see one. I always like, always dreamed of these things. Just walk out of the side of the wood. just let me see the top of your head and I'll be happy. But it never happened in the daylight.

Never saw one in the daylight. Or if I have, I've blocked it and I'm not ready to address it yet. I'm not sure. So the one time that you had, you were able to see one, the one that you said looked autistic, was that one interaction that we've talked about. Were there any other interactions after that? or no well other than

you know just just hearing them constantly and knowing where they're at no I don't have any sightings other than that one and that was siding enough for me sure and that's scary enough for me not to want to go out in the woods again

just like Elmer you asked him if he still hunts he said no I gave that up I don't hunt I don't fish I just stay home and I mean what he experienced is enough to would keep me out of the woods too i wouldn't i would never i mean

him seeing that calf pulled in half you know i haven't had well i actually down here where i live now like a year ago or so i found a deer that all the skin was pulled off of it and it wasn't during deer hunting season found that on the side of the road did it have its legs still yeah okay Nobody took any meat off of it. There was nothing. It was just, just tore apart. But it had been in the woods for a good five or six days,

and part of it was starting to dry out. You know, it wasn't like a fresh kill. But I found this thing because I saw some dogs run off the top of hill out the end of the my road where I live. And I got out and looked around and had a piece of meat or skin in its mouth. And I was like, what is that?

So I got out and I climbed up on the hill. and then, you know, smelled the death. And I'm like, wow. The only time I've seen something like that happen is like, I know a lot of people, and even my family, I think they used to do it sometimes. You cut it a certain way and you tie a chain to the skin and you just pull it behind a truck, you know, and the thing's tied to a tree and you skin it real quick. But, you know, it usually takes the legs off.

It makes a mess if you don't cut it right. It's just like, but this thing was pretty much intact. no one had you know not a rib was missing coyotes hadn't been chewing on it it was just there and what would do that and why because even if a human had done that why is they going to go to trouble to strip the skin off not take a back leg a front leg nothing nothing was missing from this deer so i found that very odd i'll eat you know i don't think i've eaten any roadkill or have I, I'm not sure. Oh, got another story.

We were heading down to Florida and there's a biaduct in between here and Savannah. Can't tell you exactly where it's on I-95. And we had been through there a couple times back in Port of Florida. And I always looked at that place and I thought, boy, would that be a good place for it sucks? Because right where the viaduct is, it starts the swampy areas down there towards Savannah. And so I thought, well, you look around and think, well, that'd be a great place for

a sauce squash be running around. About the third trip down there, we hit a wall of the biggest stink you could ever imagine. And I'm telling you, it was a mixture of skunk garbage, dead animal, burnt tires of some sort, burnt something just with the worst stink. And this is coming from a man that's been actually skunked in the face a foot away from my face by an actual skunk. This was 10 times worse than that had that happening to me. It was horrible. Me and my girlfriend were just started screaming, what does that smell? It's not a paper mill.

I don't want to hear anybody saying, uh, it's probably those paper mills down there. I lived in Charleston when I was in the Navy. I did deal with paper mills every day. You never got used to it. This was five times worse than that. It was horrible. so i mean it just unmistakable it couldn't have been anything else couldn't have been my my sidings are smells of hearing things you know stuff like that but my sighting to me with the red-eye thing is just as good

as seeing this thing in broad daylight i don't need to see one in broad daylight i don't need to make up any stories that I have seen one in broad daylight. I mean, there's particular areas. Like when I was running around with my horse and stuff in Tennessee, there's little cubby holes and little things you go into it. It looks like they have their own bias fear. And then you get this really spooky feeling about you shouldn't be in here and you're told to leave and I've always gotten up and I've left.

You can be out gathering stuff in the woods or something and all of a something something will happen like a wall gets in front of you and says it's time for you to go now i said really she says yeah it used to have me down there when we were camping i said well i've had that happen me my entire life i just you know i don't care 50 feet away i'm not going to go get it's like you get told it's time to go and if you pay attention enough i guess you'll get along with these critters just fine a lot of people don't pay attention i worry about those that come up missing. I worry about people that, you know, call these things cannibals. Well, the only way you call them a cannibal is if they're related to us, number one. So somebody needs to prove to me that

they're an actual cannibal. But I think the way that they treat us is the way we treat our chickens. If you've got like five or ten chickens, you know, they're out in your yard, pecking around. Well, eventually, you know, one of them's going to wind up in the, in the pot and the oven. You know, it's like we love them. We even give them names, but eventually when that hen stops laying eggs, she's going in the oven. And I think that's kind of the way they may be looking at us. They like us. We don't mess up.

Maybe we don't do this. Maybe we get there too many times. It's like time to ring the chicken's neck. I've heard too many stories about, you know, finding bones and caves of eating humans that just recently disappeared. I don't know whether those are, you know, true or not, but it just makes you have to wonder. Because they don't, they're not, they're not in any hurry to sit down across any table from us

and negotiate about nothing, about anything. Even our, I think even our own government can't handle these things. I think that's why they've made all these national forests. So give them a spot to where they can go live. And the rest of us, idiots, don't go invade. or settle or habitat. Gatlinburg's a good example of that. There's too many things going on in the smokies.

I won't walk around to Smokies. I'll go to that creek that's going east to west towards Maryville, but that's the only place I'll play around in Smokies. I've just known that. I didn't even know people were disappearing that. I just always had a feeling there. I'm not as scared anything kind of guy. And that's just,

I just knew how to act, I guess. I just knew not to go do this, don't go do that. I mean, well, one thing happened to me, I was driving down toward Gatlinburg from the top of the mountain out of Cherokee and started seeing Indian graves or pot rock piles, and then I smelled a bear. That's enough for me. I don't need to get some hollow back there and come up against a 500-pound black bear. You want to understand, they're not very friendly.

You know, you can't talk them out of Honorable. So I just never, I mean, that's what I know now. I didn't know that then, but just the atmosphere kept me from doing anything stupid in the smokies. So when you start, like they built Gatlinburg and when you start pinning these people in into a certain area, the only thing they can do is strike back. You know, what happens if you're sitting on your front porch and something comes out of the woods and just start to take it? and eating everything, garbageing up your front yard, and doesn't even recognize you're sitting there.

What are you going to do about that? That's kind of what's going on with them, I believe. Don't get out there and do anything stupid. And if you get away with it, good for you, but don't do it twice, don't do it three times. It's just bad things can happen. You're talking about Bigfoot specifically, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think people should put out any type of food for them if they know that they're in their area? That's a tough one. It's a yes and no. I would put out enough to just to let them know that I'm aware that they're there and I appreciate they're there because they're good guard dogs. They're awesome guard dogs.

nothing's going to come around your property if they're sleeping outside in the woods just right on the edge across the fence nothing's going to mess with you but don't overfeed if you start feeding them and feeding them and feeding them there i i'm going to use videos for example that i've heard there was a woman that did that i don't know where it was i think it's around north carolina or something and she went away for a week and when she got back they had completely destroyed her entire property because she wasn't there to feed them every day they had to bring in a professional team to come in there and shoot that thing it was like 10 feet tall big giant thing and since he didn't get fed that week she had went off to visit somewhere and she came back and just stored her place they had to like calm that thing down and even the team that they brought in

couldn't handle it they had to call a bigger team that you know even more you know if you want to believe this kind of stuff you know I don't know what's totally and completely true I I'm not espousing that it is, but I can surely go along if something's that big. And I know they're everywhere. What makes me angry the most, I think, is, you know, we're, you know, it's some kind of stigma to speak up about this, to say that, you know, we believe in it. Or even the people that know about it. It's like Elmer. He knows.

I know. But, you know, people look down on you and say it doesn't exist, which. you know puts us in a category of people being insane and need to be locked up in a straitjacket on and that's just not that's i'm not willing to accept that i'm not especially when i know the way they act by not giving up information oh here's a here's one that game warden that elmer had talked to he just strictly told him just don't do it don't do it he wasn't trying to protect the saw squatches he did he knows something above him that was told him he doesn't want the heat this you know he's saying this is my neighborhood do not shoot that thing because if you do it's going to

come down on me that's what that meant no it'll come down on him too but it's going to come down on him first and he don't want to hear that music it's a fearful it's a fearful frightful thing for the government to come after you how many podcasts i heard it's like next thing i know there's a black helicopter or the men in black show up or the next thing i'm dealing with a bunch of FBI agents make me sign the india you know i'm i'm i'm little i'm not fearful of that necessarily but i got a big mouth you know the uh somebody's showing up the area in tennessee have you have you ever uh talked to your neighbors to see if they're experiencing things. Yeah, there was one time my neighbor, Bill, he was a good friend of mine.

He lived down the, down the hill. I used to ride my horse through the woods from my house down to his. People thought that was crazy, you know. It was just normal to me, but they thought, oh, that's crazy. And so I used to ride my horse down there. We'd drink beer and sit around, hang out and all that stuff. He was an old hippie. But he got drunk one night and claimed he went down the road and claimed he saw Buffalo.

He said it was right beside my truck. I'm only doing 10, 15 miles an hour, and I got Buffalo walking beside me out my window. And I couldn't figure it out. It's like how would a stray Buffalo? He says, it's just like, you know, Buffalo when they shed their hair in the wintertime. It was like it was all hairy and like all matted up. up and it was walking on all fours. He mentioned that he said he just kept saying it was walking on all fours.

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I said, there's no way, Bill. There's no Sasquatch right around here. He said the thing was like, it was huge. It was as big as my truck. It was tall. The back of it. I'm looking at the back of it. But he didn't see the front of it.

So just where he had seen this thing, it was right at this little short bridge, small, low brick, that goes over a creek, a dry creek. And if you make a left right there at that thing and walk about a mile, there's a huge giant sinkhole cave system. I've been in it, got in it, crawled in it, big enough for one of them things to get in it and just live there. And there's another cave down the road to the right.

I've gotten that cave when I was younger. And so there's plenty of, you know, if he wanted to hide, there's plenty of places for the big thing to hide. So I went down to my other neighbor, which was a friend of ours, and I kind of sat for a couple days thinking about, well, maybe he's right, maybe it is a big foot. And I brought it up to him. And he went monkey nuts on me and told me to shut up. Don't bring that up again. I don't want to talk about it.

And I don't want everyone should bring that up to just don't talk about it. I said, what's the matter? It's not a buffalo. I'm just talking about it's not a buffalo. Maybe it is a big foot. He says, that's enough for me. That's enough. So he'd say.

And I couldn't talk to him about it ever again. It was a don't bring a sub shop ever again. But he lived down right there. in the valley not three months not a mile away from where he saw this thing but he was just not even want to hear the possibility of the theory of maybe because we know it's not a buffalo oh bill's just drunk he was just drunk no that ain't what it was sorry it wasn't my sighting that's just the story And that was the end of that. Bill died not long after that, probably about a year after.

But, you know, yeah, Bill was a drinker, but he wasn't a hallucinator. I know that for a fact. Oh, what an interesting area. Do you ever hear anything else weird in the woods besides the sounds that you're attributing to Bigfoot? Well, the only, oh, any other thing's weird? Oh, let me think. That's a curveball. Yeah, but I can't remember what they are.

I'm trying to just rack my brain with what I'm dealing with. But no steel doors closing. Okay. Actually, it's nothing I heard, but it's what I saw. I'm sitting there with that Bob, back when I was sitting there with that Bobcat, I told you, I had an objective I wanted to get to. So while I'm dealing with this Bobcat, my girlfriend's got a sprained ankle, and, you know, and my dogs, well, my dogs aren't giving me a problem.

necessarily and then that trussed tree is right across the creek from me i'm looking down and what should be dark or black i kept seeing it looked like there was a white building sitting there and what is that why is there there shouldn't be anything white and it's huge and it's sitting there just like i could just you could just barely see it through the trees but it's solid white the the rocks aren't going to be white there's nothing there that should be white but you know i'm dealing with, you know, quite a few issues there. I keep glancing down there, see what that is. I'm glancing around what I'm going to do with this cat.

So once I got the cat down, I thought about going, then we just decided, no, I'll see it some other time, but it was just too big. I had been to that place way too many times. There's no such thing as anything being white. There's no building. There's no road to anybody to carry anything out there. It was this huge. I just know there was like a white wall.

down at the end of where I wanted to get to, and I didn't go see what it was. Call it a legend, call it what you will, but I just found that so odd. It still to this day bothers me, because I've been out there a hundred times, and there's nothing white out there. Stupid.

There's no way anybody brought anything white out there. As far as other sounds, no, I don't think really, not really. I may remember something later, right now off top my head no nothing spooky scary i think uh i think there are dogmen there but i don't think it's kind of like they from what i understand they don't like each other much they're in kentucky across the river and i got the guard dogs that i got which i'm happy about right i don't do with no man would you rather deal with one over the other

I'll deal with them both. I think dogmen just like to scare people. I don't think they really feed on us necessarily. I think it feeds them. Our fear feeds them, how bad they can scare the crap out of us. Because there's not, well, there are a lot of disappearances that not necessarily deaths,

not the government's going to, you know, admit to. So who knows? I know they eat people. I know that. So I guess I shouldn't be so not afraid, but I'm not afraid of either one of them, actually. The only problem I would have about dying is that people who have just come behind me and clean up my mess.

That's what I'm trying. I mean, you know, all the things are left behind, you know, it would be on them. I'm not afraid of these things necessarily. I'm just afraid of how many people I'd be putting out if I got eaten by one of them. I don't mind dying. Dines. He's had a wife that died in my arms.

And she came back and told me what was like up there. So I'm well-versed about what happens after you die, and I ain't scared of none of it. It's just like you just take a big short nap, that's all. Just clonked me on the head and have a rib or two. I'm sorry that you lost your wife. That's okay. I got another girl. Gotcha.

Did that happen? Did that happen before? I took her there one time. As a matter of fact, and we were down at a place where I used to go see in pretty close to same area. And I'm telling her a story about, you know, the history of the place and where we used to come out hang out and do all that stuff. And trees start shaking at the top of the ridge

on the other side of the creek. And there was really not necessarily any wind. And it was only like three trees. And they kept just like swaying and swaying and back and forth. And you look up and down the ridge from one thing to the other. It's just these three trees. And they just kept interrupting my story because it was making noise. So I looked up and I just yelled up at the hill.

I said, I'll be with you at a minute. And it stopped. When wasn't blowing real hard. There's a little, you know, three, five mile an hour of breeze. And she said something like, what's going on up there? I said, I don't know. Happens all the time. And then we left.

I remembered that the other day. I know all this sounds crazy, but it's all horribly true. I'm sorry. To me, it's not crazy at all because I hear versions of this every single day. And it is absolutely wild how many people are experiencing things like this all across the U.S. And people don't realize that. But I hear them every single day. It is absolutely wild.

My only hope, not my only hope, I have many hopes, of course. But insofar as this regard, I want people to imagine themselves. as a softwatch, what they have to deal with, how cold it gets, how they don't have shoes, how they don't have blankets. And so, you know, why are you going to get upset? If you, you know, the last thing you need to worry about is running them out of the spot that they had picked that day to survive. And all of a sudden, they got to pick up and run and go somewhere else. I want people start thinking about what they're doing for. They go out and start messing with these things. They need to leave them. They don't have to leave them alone. They can walk out there,

just keep your mouth shut and don't say anything don't make any noise don't make any racket don't bring any friends what i'll bring a friend or two if you need to but they need to start imagine what it would be like if it were them sitting on the side of that ridge and having to sleep outside and all that stuff it's it's not that they're suffering they evolved into that like i said they don't need weapons they don't need fire their perfect purpose they're perfect fine with the way they are. The only problem they have with us is we make too much noise and we they're not allowed to be seen by us. They have to run from us. But, you know, it comes a time where I think another thing, I mean, I think that they're not only duplicitous, they're quadplicitous. You know, if it's an easy kill and if they can know on their own that there are no witnesses and you'll never be heard or spoke of again, they'll take you. Never put yourself into that position. I mean, the things I do that I used to do, I would say, are dangerous or enough. Just don't, don't do

that unless you have established a relationship with them, unless you know that you're going to be safe. But there may come a day even with me, they'll just come, you know, they'll snatch me up. They've had enough. Time for supper. Do you feel like you've established a relationship with the... Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

See, I make sure, you know, not to wear deodor or anything like that when I go out in the woods so they can smell me. I want them to remember because my scent hasn't changed since I was a little kid. It's still the same. And so they can smell me from miles away. How often are you talking to them out loud do you find? Well, not lately. I've shut myself in the house for a year. Well, all the time. I still do, but you know, you can call that person a crazy person easily. I believe I'm in touch with them right now. I know. I just know it.

I mean, to me, so far I'm in negotiations with them. Because I got something I got to come up. I got something I got to come up there and do it. it's in their territory and they ain't going to like it. How do you feel you're connected to them? I'm part Indian. I'm connected to them because they, I think that they, I was entertainment to them. There's another thing I did like at the bottom of that,

that creek I'm telling you about at the top of that, there's a bluff. And I used to when I get done running, I'd go up to climb that bluff and get on top of that. There'd be huckleberries up there and stuff to eat. And off to the right, and you can see, see for miles from top of that buff. And off to the right was a hawk's nest, about 70 feet maybe, 100 feet in the air, growing in a big old tree. So I devised a way to tie up a bunch of binder twine hay bales.

We had a lot of horses. So we had binder twine everywhere. So I devised the way to make my own rope and throw a rock over the limb with a small string that tied to the, you know, the big rope that I made out of this binder twine. And it was double. So I had to throw the rock over the limb. Then you pull the string, which pulls up the rope, which springs the other side down. Then you twist that together and you climb the tree to get to the hawk.

I'm sure that was an entertainment. day for them because I did that. It was high. It was like, I mean, I couldn't get the rock over the limb. That's how high the limb was. And I'm good at throwing stuff, baseballs, you name it. And it took me a good 25, 30 minutes. I had to sit down and take a break from throwing that rock just to get over the first limb of that tree.

Finally got it when I was about to give up and I pulled the thing up and then I twisted it around. climb that 50-foot rope. I mean, it was high. I'm telling you. It's in a big tree, climbed up and saw the little chickens. And instead of taking one, I decided just leave them alone and I climb back down. And that was my exercise for that week. So if there's any Sasquatches around there sitting there watching me, you know, making rope,

not bringing a rope, making a rope just to get up to go look at these. chickens, these red-tailed hawk babies, and they were there. I decided I'd just turn around and go back. No reason whatsoever. Hey, have you seen pictures of Guard of the Gods, like good pictures of them? Yeah. Have you seen that pedestal out in front, in the middle of it? I mean, I've seen pictures of the rock formations, but...

Well, you've seen the camel head, right? The camelhead. I mean, as far as I know, that's its claim to fame, there's a camelhead. Is it called, oh, I'm looking at it right now. So it's called Camel Rock? Yeah. Yeah. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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Can you see like a pedestal down below that? Yes. It looks like about, yeah. I jumped off of that over towards a camelhead when I was in the Navy. I got a picture of it too. And so it's a bit bit wide there. That's how crazy I used to be. You weren't kidding around.

No. And my reason for doing it was I was going to ask my girlfriend to marry me that day. but I just left it up to God to see, well, if I shouldn't marry this woman, why don't she just kill me? So I jumped out the rock and told her to take my picture as I'm doing it. And we're out there with our friends and self, yeah, go ahead. That sounds like a good idea. Well, I'm glad you made it. I twisted my ankle really bad, but, you know, I wound up marrying the girl.

Well, there you go. There you go. Good stuff. Mark, you've been through some really interesting stuff. It sounds like you're still going through it. I'm trying to get started. I'm trying to get started back up again. I haven't finished living my life. My body's just a little broke down from all the things I've done.

I used to live on a boat in Florida, out on the hook, not at a marina, just like rowing, sailing, riding a bicycle 12 miles a day, and that's if nothing went wrong to get to work. come back. Like I've really, there's a lot more to that, but it's not Sasquatch oriented necessarily. Right. Or maybe the,

maybe the occurrences that happened to me in Florida, I haven't popped in my, you know, minus two head yet, you know, figured out later. Well, you know, sometimes, you know,

connections get made later on in life and, you know, things might continue to happen as well. on the property that you're at, but I mean... Oh, I sang two songs to a bobcat in Florida one night. That was crazy. Driving to go to... I guess I was on...

I guess I may have been on a beer runner. I needed cigarettes. I don't know. I was living on a boat, so I got to my bike in this park that I lived in. Get down the driveway... Or going down the sidewalk out of this park, and there's a giant bobcat laying on the sidewalk,

just looking at me. So I slid my foot to a stop. I'm about 10 feet away from this thing. So I'm not going anywhere. The bobcat's not going anywhere. It's not looking unfriendly, but, you know, it's looking at me like,

what's you got for me now? So I sat there and I sang two songs to that bobcat. Finally it left. What were the songs? Songs I wrote. Oh, okay. That's cool. Well, there you go.

Yeah. So anyhow, it was kind of funny. I felt like snow white. Hey, maybe you saved that bobcat. Oh, I had another one in the house in Tennessee where I saw that sauce squads. I had this rend that used to come in and wake me up every morning. You finally got to the point you were getting my chest and bark right in my face to get me away. It's like, God damn, you get out of here. It's like I felt like snow white then too. That's two snow white things.

Who knows what's next, but don't go eating any apples, I guess. No, I can't stay away from those. I don't have the teeth for it. There you go. Mark, keep us in mind if anything else continues to happen once you get back out there. But thank you for sharing what you've experienced so far. It's been very enlightening. I think a lot of people are going to learn some things from it.

Well, I hope so. I mean, I don't want anybody like this calling people crazy stuff needs to stop. It does, yeah. I agree. You know, and it's like I'm not here to lie or promote. I'm not calling the next guy to tell my story. I just need to get this out and just get it over with so I can move on with my life necessarily. I'm not looking to make a podcast, get famous by any means.

I don't, I want nothing to do with it. but it has to I just got to I don't know maybe set the record straight maybe calm some people down maybe tell some people they need to calm down you know there's just so many variables to this thing it's like you just like when you ask me what do I think it is you can't just call it one thing right right you know there's just too many things going on you have to recognize what you're dealing with like I said you can go out west you're going to find a completely different animal maybe they are feel you're Maybe they've just put their foot down and said, this is our territory, and we have a zero tolerance policy. There's a place in Alaska. They wiped a town out, like I think twice because they just didn't want them there and ran them out. Killed a bunch of people. So some have zero tolerance. Some are kinder than others.

You always have to know, you always have to know what you're dealing with. So that's why I say, we can't just call these things one thing. and, you know, look at them in, I don't know, one, you know, in one view. This is what they are. You know, they're not a gorilla. Oh, sure. You know what to do. You know what to do with a gorilla.

You know what to do. They all do the same thing. They're not a polar bear. They all do the same thing. These things don't do the same thing. Anyway, so, sorry for running on. I know you'll probably have to edit that out, but that's just what I think. Well, Mark, I appreciate you coming on me.

If there's anything I can I can ever do to help out, don't be afraid to, you know, you can send me an email, but I appreciate you sharing your thoughts tonight, man. All right. Thanks for that. I appreciate that. I will. If I have any questions, I'll give you a bother, but probably don't count on it. All right.

I'm going to go. Well, what I'm going to do is I'm going to go find out now that I know, now that I know everything, I know I'm going to go out and I'm going to practically walk up to one of these things because I'm done from them making me look like a fool. I'd be interested to see how that goes if you do end up doing that.

I'll let you know. I'm planning on going here in about a couple months if I can. So I'll let you know. All right. All right. Thanks, Jeremiah. We'll talk to you later. Thank you. You're welcome. Have a good one, Mark. You too. Bye. I just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you, all my listeners, for listening to the podcast.

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