Bigfoot Society - Juvenile Bigfoot in Clothes: The Sauvie Island Encounter
Episode Date: May 29, 2025What happens when a woman rooted in animism and native traditions opens her heart to the forest around her — and finds something waiting in return? In this unforgettable and deeply mysterious episod...e, we sit down with Avery, a Portland native and Sauvie Island resident, who shares a lifetime of spiritual connection to nature — culminating in a vivid and startling nighttime visitation from two juvenile Sasquatch. Clad in clothes, with wispy black hair and round black eyes, these beings didn’t just appear in a dream — they left an emotional imprint too real to ignore. We explore glowing blue orbs over the Columbia River, the energy of ancestral land, and what it means when the forest answers back. This one goes beyond physical encounters — into the dream realms where the wild still watches.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNT🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072📧 Business Inquiries:bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
Tonight's story doesn't come from a hiker or a hunter.
It comes from a woman whose roots go deep into animism tradition in the wildlands of Savi Island
in Oregon.
She didn't chase Bigfoot, but when she opened herself up to the land, something answered.
This is a firsthand experience from someone who didn't expect to see anything, but got everything.
This is a story of Avery in the night, the forest sent its children.
stay with us.
All right, Bigfoot Society.
You've got the privilege of talking to Avery today.
Avery's an individual that reached out about some interesting things she's experienced on Savi Island,
which is a 30,000-acre river island just outside of Portland alongside the Columbia River.
It's a really interesting setup.
You'll want to check it out on a map as you're listening.
That'll help out.
But Avery, how's it going today?
Great. Thank you. Awesome. You know, this won't be the first time that we've heard about things happening on this island. And in fact, that's a big part of why you reached out is you heard that first episode on the podcast about an individual that had some things happen on Savi Island as well.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
You know, and we were talking beforehand that this is going to be, you know, kind of more of a guided conversation, which is.
is great. And sometimes that's to keep things flowing. So this will be a fun chat. But,
you know, are you able to share and we'll just talk as we go along and stuff that needs to be
cut out can be and it's not a big issue. But can you, can you share how you came to be on
the island to begin with? Sure. Yeah. I basically came. I'm a native Portlander. I lived in the city for many
years, traveled quite a bit. And then I moved out to the island about five years ago just to get
out of the city during all the craziness during. Yeah. And so that's how I made it out here. I've always
had a love of the island, respect for the hardworking people out here and just decided that
this is the place where I needed to be and wanted to be. So made my way out here. Yeah. That's awesome.
And how would you describe Savi Island to someone who's never seen it or has never stepped foot on it?
Yeah.
I would say, first of all, it may seem small.
There are a lot of people that come out.
And most people that are coming out to visit the island are kind of touring around the island on about a 14-mile loop, either driving or biking, you know, visiting a few farms.
a few bird watching, the beaches, et cetera.
It's a beautiful place with a really rich history.
I think a lot of people can find some of this information by looking it up as well.
But I should mention way before moving to the island, actually, through schooling,
I had done part of my work was to do some research about the island.
But, yeah, long ago there actually there was a band of people who lived on the island, the Chinook people,
Multnomah people who were basically a band of the Chinook.
And they were also known as the Wapido Indians by some historians,
lived on the island for many, many years.
And then, you know, things changed.
Disease came.
The people were basically wiped out.
There were, you know, distilleries on the island at one point and dairy farms, et cetera.
And right now, it still is very much a working farming community.
And people out here work really hard.
They're, you know, they like to have fun, but they're also very serious about the work that they do.
And, yeah, great people out here.
It's a beautiful place as well.
there's still lots of
out there are mountain lions on the island
or coyotes, you know, black-tailed deer
fish, you know, you have crops.
We have rivers and sloughs
and it's a major stop for a huge number of migrating birds.
So there's, you know,
plenty of food out here,
plenty of places to roam undisturbed
and unnoticed.
And I think a lot of people tend to think,
oh, it's really crowded, but it's,
I personally don't feel
Like it's super crowded, especially because the area that, like I said, people visiting the island, the area that they can access is actually fairly small in comparison to the number of acres out here.
When was it when you first realized on this island that there might be something out of the ordinary going on?
Well, you know, I didn't mention this when I wrote into you, but I remember that one of the first things that happened was actually,
right around November of 2019, I was hiking the area along the beach.
There's a well-known hiking trail out there, very forested area.
And I was hiking with a friend, and I was right along the river at that point.
And they were just maybe two or three feet behind me, and I turned around to my left to talk to them, to say something.
And as I turned, my attention was caught by a blue orb right off to the left there.
And it was just sort of zipping right across the river there.
So, and immediately I said, oh, my gosh, look.
You know, and they turned around and they didn't see it.
They had missed it.
It was very quick.
It was not a shooting star.
It was definitely blue with some white luminescence inside and had a little bit of a tail on it.
And so that was the first time.
I'd never seen anything like that before.
And I thought, huh, well, that's interesting.
That's pretty cool, too.
And that was that.
That was my first experience.
That is really interesting.
How big would you estimate that the orb was?
Yeah, you know, I thought about it a lot because it was over the river.
And I was like my depth perception on trying to estimate it was a little.
little bit skewed. So I, you know, in other words, I thought it was farther than it actually was. I
think it was actually just right over about the center of the river. And it was probably about the
size of, I'd say, a basketball. Yeah, the most like luminescent blue, this really beautiful
blue color. What was the conversation like after you had that sighting of the orb?
You know, my, just my friend was disappointed. They thought, oh, was that? They had had someone close to them who had recently passed. And they asked me, do you think that's who that was? And I said, I don't know. I actually really don't know. And in my mind, though, I thought it did not seem out of the question to me that it could perhaps be a being of the island because so much has gone.
on here and so many people have lived on the island prior to modern day people.
So that was my thought was I was leaning more towards South.
It could be a native person, but I don't know.
Of course.
That's really interesting.
That is a idea I've actually never considered before.
That's very, very interesting, though.
Something to think about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
After you had this experience with the blue orb, did you start looking around to see if there had been any other things like that reported on the island then?
You know, I did it.
I really did it.
And I just kind of went on my way and really didn't give it much thought after that other than, wow, that was actually kind of a neat thing that happened.
but I really just kind of went on with life after that and didn't give it much thought.
Interesting.
Sometimes when people have interactions with things like this, it starts to open up their life to other weird things.
Was that the case?
Or did it just kind of you were back to normal?
Well, I think that it came after some things in my life.
say that it previously happened or the way I had been living my life, it really fit in line with
what was happening for me at that time, which was, you know, I guess I should say I was really
brought up and lived in a way that was very close to nature, partly by default due to, you know,
my family's parenting and then and partly just due to my my grandmother who was Norwegian and her
close connection with the fairy people and with the little what she called the little people
and so really from a very young age between her and my father being an Alaska native I felt a deep
connection to the land and to creatures seen and unseen. And I always just believed that there was
more. It was just sort of in my blood and my upbringing. And I've told a lot of people this,
but from a very early age, my grandmother would have me help her in the garden and we would
set out seashells that she had that were specifically for food and for water for the little people.
So it started early on through me.
So this did not, was not, it was a surprise, but yet it was not a total surprise for me.
That makes sense.
Is it something where you're able to share, like when you say your grandmother hasn't had a close connection with the fairy people, like what that would exactly mean?
Well, it just meant that she brought with her, her own upbringing and believed.
and her own, I guess I want to say, natural way of, I guess I want to say, believing in animism that she just naturally brought to me.
It's difficult to put it into words, but it was really just how she lived her life and the way she cared for the creatures, the unseen creatures outside in her garden,
creatures that she tended to, you know, in her own life that she had domesticated as well as
the unseen. So for me, it was just a given. I just really trusted her and believed her that,
oh, yeah, this is what we do. Okay. There was nothing, nothing super overt. You know, she,
this is really, I don't, I want to say it was almost more of a private thing for her,
something that she did with me, but it was not something that, for, you. For, you,
example that she was doing with my sister or or with my grandfather for example it was just like
this is kind of our private time i think she felt like i would be receptive to that i was more of a
dreamier child so she really kind of opened herself up to me in that way interesting so when you say
there was a um there was a following of anima animism like the belief in this
is just from Oxford. So belief in a supernatural power that organizes and animates the material universe.
Yes. That's pretty much what we're talking here, correct? Yeah, totally. And in all things. So we're talking about, you know, I'm talking about plants. I'm talking about creatures. I'm talking about objects. So all of those things. And that's really, I really had a natural bent towards that.
growing up as well. And I didn't realize that that's what was happening or that's kind of,
that was my natural thinking or inclination or upbringing, I should say, until, you know,
somewhere more in my 20s, I really started to open up to that again and discover it, discover it
and really kind of follow that line back of like, oh yeah, I used to do this thing. Oh, yeah, I used to
You know, so really interesting.
And I feel like for, if I can just say, like for all of the knows that were happening in my life,
I would say through my parents, you know, about like, this is how you go through the world.
This is what you do.
This is who you listen to.
My grandmother was really the opposite of that.
And so my time with her was really precious.
And I feel like it was such a beautiful balance to.
the other upbringing, that it really opened me.
And it was like nourishment for my soul.
I think that is a life experience that most people can probably relate to where, you know,
the parents are trying to guide, however, the grandparents or the equivalent are there to kind
to open the eyes and be like, well, maybe you can do this too.
Yes, for sure.
For sure. Yeah, she was, she was more of a gentle, yes, yes, listen here, yes. You know, and yeah, and I really latched on to that.
So after you had this interesting experience with seeing the blue orb zipping across the river, what would you say was the next thing that came up in your life after that that you took notice of as?
being out of the ordinary?
Mm-hmm.
So really, at that time also, I should say that part of this really harkens to the work that I do is
really on my own time and the work that I do in the world is really working with animals,
working with people and also having gone through, let's say, like, a mentorship program with some people
that are very close to me, that a Native American person who's very close to me that ran a program,
this mentorship program. I'm trying to say this without totally giving away what I do or my work
and to, you know, kind of remain anonymous in that way.
So bear with me here.
But so probably the next thing that came to me and was something that was shown to me.
And basically when I am working in my own garden, when I'm working with, you know, plant allies or all, any of the spirits that are out here,
on the island. I'm very careful about what I'm doing on the island in my own space and asking for
permission and making sure, is this okay to plant here? And just really asking for permission from
the island because I feel like it has been used in so many ways that I want to heal my little
parcel of land, if you will, and add some nourishment. So I'm constantly asking for
for guidance and really watching out for how is this going to affect the creatures that live on
on this land.
How is this going to affect the trees, the existing trees, you know, the existing wildlife,
like I said, the creatures.
And so I'm constantly asking.
And typically what I do is just it's a meditation, if you will.
And it is when I am working with the land that I will.
that I will have impressions come to me.
And sometimes these impressions will come,
they come to me on the land.
They come to me when I'm not on the island.
They come to me in other areas as well.
But oftentimes I won't,
how can I say this?
I can be so in my head that I will miss the impression when it comes.
But when I leave the space and I'm relaxed,
it will, the impressions will come to me if that makes sense.
So one of the things I did experience on the island here on this land, if you will,
was the being, you could call them the green man, you could call them Pan.
But I clearly did receive an impression of that being here on the island.
And I know that might sound crazy to some people, but my experience is my experience.
And I think we all experience these things differently.
I don't like see that the being standing there in front of me and flesh and blood.
It's more of, what I want to say?
It's like an experience it's more in my mind's eye, but it's not centered in my brain, if that makes sense.
This is kind of a tricky thing to describe, but I think there are some people out there that will know what I'm talking about.
But I can sense.
It's a sense of what's happening.
It's a sense of who's there in the moment.
But I don't have always that gift of vision.
So, yeah, I would say it was the green man.
It came across to me, though.
This being came across to me more as Pan.
and I don't know if they looked the way that is in my mind that I expected them to look
or if this was, you know, maybe perhaps this being appears to everyone differently, I suppose.
But yeah, I had a clear vision of that being.
And really that being, my sense was that they were really having an awareness of the work
that I'm doing and trying to be mindful of how I am moving through the island and through
this land that I live on in particular.
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Or is there any way, or maybe there's certain thoughts that come into your mind,
or is there any way to maybe help us try to understand what that means when you get impressions?
So the impression is oftentimes visual.
And then it's, I will see the picture.
It's just a flash, but it seems very long, if you will.
It's happening in a flash, but it seems very drawn out.
but there can be thoughts associated with it that are not my thoughts.
Got it.
Okay.
So you can say thoughts slash words that are not from me.
So it's like it's almost, and I don't want to like try to bend it to something else.
But in a way, it is very similar to how other people explain.
like mind speak in some ways.
In some ways it might be totally different.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have, I guess I haven't totally thought about the, that it is mind speak or say telepathy in that way.
But there are definitely tones.
You can get a tone.
For me, I can, I can feel a tone or you can call it, you know, when someone has a tone.
in their voice, you know, that's what I mean. So I can get a tone. But it doesn't, and it's almost like
hearing it, because I think a lot of people are like, but isn't, you know, how do I hear that?
Or what is it you're hearing or that you're getting the impression of? It's, it's so hard to
describe. Because I'm trying to describe something that is kind of without words, basically.
it's something that occurs in the quiet space of the mind.
So we, I do, I tend to fill my day.
A lot of the time I can fill my day with all kinds of things going on.
You know, if it's social media or things I'm thinking about.
But when I take the time to just stop and I can get my body into something rhythmical,
such as gardening or drumming or just walking and let all of that go,
this quiet voice can find the space to enter, and that's where it is.
And it's taken practice for me to not, oh, poo-poo it away or what's that or just talk
over it.
It's just I've learned to stop and listen.
and there has been a beautiful unfolding with that.
That has occurred.
That is really, really interesting.
And I think I do agree that from talking to a lot of people,
it seems like things like this will occur once we're able to,
well, I mean, really clear our minds out of stuff,
all the things that are bugging us in every day or, you know,
checking Facebook, whatever, that's when you can clear your mind and stuff like that,
just chill out, meditate, whatever you want to call it.
That's when connections are going to be made.
Now, when you start to have these impressions, were they pretty normal in the way that they would happen?
Or were they kind of, you know, here and there?
Or maybe they started to become more and more frequent?
Yeah, it's very, well, what I find is it can be very unexpected.
It started for me in a very unexpected way many years ago in regards to a pet that I had that had passed over.
And so, and it was very unexpected.
It actually happened when I was driving and not even thinking about this beloved pet.
And so the more though that I slow down and that I take time and that I don't put pressure on myself to receive impressions, that does the exact opposite, by the way, for me, it just shuts it out and I go into my head, all of this.
So when I just allow it to flow, it's, that's when it's when it happens.
And so for me, it has become a practice of allowing for space and time for that to occur.
That's also very, very interesting because that's another pattern that I see coming up is a lot of times when people are like, you know what, I don't even care.
I'm just going to get into the woods or just relax.
That's when they'll have maybe some sort of communication or connection.
but when they're actually like out there and they're trying to you know uh hit sticks on trees and
and all that good stuff which you know hey that's cool too but you know that might not have as many
um many things happen right um yeah yeah you also mentioned that you know along your journey
you've you've also had some interesting dreams that have happened and did these
Did these take place then after the impressions happened?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, the one in particular that I mentioned to via email.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I, well, just to kind of back that up a little bit and, and I'll go into that, is that I really, I had basically a,
the forest people, I should say it, I had heard about, you know, seeing the Patty film, like, when I was younger, et cetera, knew about all of that then. And I just, like I said, growing up and with my grandmother in mind, I just, of course, of course, I just believed. I just kind of believed without any questions and really had not thought anything else about it until probably a
around 2020, I was listening to, or a podcast came up in my feed, and it was the facts of how to hunt,
you know, facts by how to hunt, I guess, as well as sub-arctic Sasquatch, which is Fred Roll.
And so I immediately like really started listening intently to Fred Roll. He's an Alaskan native.
And I had just come from Alaska.
I'm trying to think of the timeline.
I just visited and just been up in Alaska and picked up a book that caught my eye in one of the bookstores.
And it was about Nantinac, who is the Alaskan version of the Harryman, Sasquatch, the Forest People.
And I had read that.
And then I come home and I listen to Fred Ruhl, right?
And so, and as you're listening to these podcasts, you know, more come up into your, into the feed.
And, you know, eventually there are just a couple that I started listening to and including yours, which I thought was awesome.
But it really, I listened for several months.
And really those podcasts changed my attitude about how I go into the woods.
I kind of told you a little bit about this before,
but how I go into the woods all alone with never kind of a care in the world,
except for, you know, or thinking of danger,
except for, you know, I'm aware of like mountain lions, rattlesnakes,
that kind of thing when I'm out in eastern Oregon.
But basically, I've been more afraid of other humans, okay?
But the topic has really, really made me kind of stop and think a little bit
as to A, why I've felt unease in specific forested areas because I do go out and hunt for mushrooms.
And also it's just something I don't do alone anymore.
Just I will not do that alone anymore because of it.
So, yeah.
And I can also, I've heard, you know, some of the areas that I've heard actually on your podcast are definitely areas where I have felt unease.
So I was like, yes, validation there.
But yeah.
And I've, so I've really gone back and forth as to whether or not I would want to come in contact with the forest people and how.
And I've really kind of let all of that rest.
And mainly it's because I do tend to startle easily.
and so I just kind of let all of that that thinking go and just again just stopped thinking about it,
stopped listening to an extent and then I had something happen.
It's sort of an unusual experience.
You okay?
Yeah, I'm okay.
Should I go into that?
Yeah, sorry.
No, about once every.
one of these, the tech freaks out.
And so I was like, oh, my goodness, I just lost her.
Yeah, that would be great, actually.
Okay.
Okay.
So like I said, I basically let all of this go.
All of the forest people stuff go.
Okay.
I kind of had this big, oh, I'm going to listen to these podcasts and this and that.
And then I just basically let it rest.
But I did have an awareness of like, oh, you know, there are definitely feelings that I get when I'm on the island.
There are certain places where I will sit and I will, I will drum.
I'll drum for the land.
I drum for the beings.
But definitely feelings of being observed.
And usually what I, what I've basically told myself before is, oh, of course, there are creatures out there.
They're looking at you, you know.
but or I have also felt the presence of native beings.
And actually on the land that I live, there is an archaeological site.
There are many on the island, by the way, but there is an archaeological site on the island
that people used to camp here.
So I wasn't too surprised, but it kind of gave me pause.
And so how I've just been going about my life here is when I'm on walks on the property
or anywhere, and I've done this quite a bit anyway,
is I'm usually talking.
I will talk to the address all the beings, you know,
saying hello, just introducing myself.
And that is not to say just the forest people,
but any beings out there,
I want them to know that I'm walking through,
I'm being respectful.
I'm typically admiring nature when I'm out there
and just really enjoying being under,
the sky and the birds and and all of that out here. Well, so when I had, so that's basically how I just go
about my days out here. Um, so one night, um, it would be, you know, probably, I would say a month or so
ago or more now because I just made disappointment with you, but, um, I had, um, I had,
what I can loosely, I'm not even going to call it a dream. It's not a dream. I've heard a lot of
people talk about it here. It's not astral travel. It's basically what I believe in is in the
nighttime when I am sleeping, I am going elsewhere. That is my belief. And I've actually,
I've done some work with people that actually can guide this a little bit.
I heard you mentioned the Monroe Institute the other day on a podcast.
And it's very, it's kind of, it's kind of like that, but it's actually with this person
named Darius J. Wright.
I don't know if you've heard of him.
But anyway, he basically has a method where he teaches you to have an, an, an,
an out-of-body experience, you know, so an OBE.
And it's basically going through sleep paralysis is the doorway into it.
So I had been kind of working on that for a while to allow myself a bigger experience.
It's basically the OBE takes you into what you can say is another dimension.
It's the dimension that we enter when we are in our sleep life.
So I had been unsuccessful with that, with practicing this until I finally just let it go.
And so what happened was in my dream life, my dream state, I could say, I suddenly,
I really snapped too.
And I don't know if you've had this experience before, but it was like I had been looking for something subconsciously.
And then I saw it and all of my senses just turned on.
It was like this snap.
And I was like, there it is.
Right.
And so what happened was suddenly I looked up and standing before me in the dream state, right, in this other dimension, were two Sasquatch juveniles.
and there was a boy on my left.
He was about eight years old.
There was a girl on the right standing very close to him.
And she was about five.
I would say five when I saw them.
And so in the meantime, I'm getting all of these,
but we already went over these impressions, right?
I'm looking at them.
And I even said, oh my gosh, you're here.
And the first thing that came to my mind was,
and I said to them was
you don't look at all
like I thought you would look.
You look so, like I think I could mistake you
for, you know, like a human
or a human that just has a lot of hair.
And I was, I don't know,
it's just a little bit difficult to explain,
but let me see if I can go back to this.
So, right.
So the two juvenile forest people, the boy and the girl, and I immediately became alert.
And the reason I became alert in this was because somehow I had been waiting for this, right?
Even though I thought I had let it go, here it was suddenly.
And I was immediately just alert and wide awake.
The interesting thing was that they were about two feet away from me.
and they both had like this wispy-ish black hair,
like all over their entire bodies,
except for around the face, right?
And the face, the skin was like a black grayish.
It was like ash, sort of this ash color.
And what really struck me was mostly looking at the boy.
And I think because I was more eye level with him and just,
and I was kind of like bent down a tiny bit and like whoa like kind of like with my hands up sort of
looking at him and but their eyes were just black and completely round black and completely round
kind of like this perolescent black and the lips um were very full and turned down but their faces
were almost expressionless but in that way
that like here, here, so here are the impressions.
So they were expressionless, but in that way that if you look at a tiger in the eyes,
you're like, what is that, what's it going to do?
You know, is that tiger happy or is it going to eat me?
Well, neither.
It's just, you know, it's like a wild look.
It was a wild look.
And, but it definitely, but the impression I received was, they were so.
surprised that they were there.
They were kind of like, whoa, you know, like, whoa, what's going on?
And they were surprised they were there, but they knew they were going to be there.
They were brought there for, you know, specifically brought before me.
And there was something about it that was almost like this humor that only a five-year-old
and an eight-year-old could have, like almost like it was something kind of funny about it.
Like I could totally pick up on their childishness, the trickster, joyful, but also really kind of afraid.
But they were, they were like behaving right there.
They were behaving because the mama was nearby.
I couldn't see her, but I knew she was there.
And she placed them there before me.
They did not look at all like the Patty version.
by the way. I know everyone compares to the paddy version, but it seems like there's so many different
I don't know species of the forest people. So what's really odd is that they were wearing clothes.
So from what I could see, the boy was wearing a shirt. It was almost comical,
but he was wearing this little kind of like print short sleeve button up shirt and almost look like a Hawaiian print.
But you could see like hair sticking out of the chest area, just like wispy little hair,
sticking out between the buttons, you know, under the arms, the top of the arms, under the arms.
And I was like I said, I was so transfixed on their eyes.
I almost couldn't look down.
but I could see everything that was in that space of the face and the upper part of the body.
So he was wearing this shirt.
And meanwhile, the young girl, the sister, do you will, was in this little yellow sundress.
Same thing, like hair kind of sticking out everywhere.
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It was like, you know, I felt complete calmness when I looked at them,
surprise, the calmness in wonder and care and love.
And like I said, I just said, oh my gosh, you look so human, I might have mistook you,
was what I thought.
And they didn't say anything.
They just looked at me.
And I actually had this impulse when I said that, you know, like, oh my gosh, you look so human.
I might have mistook you that I reached out my left hand as if to touch the boy.
And then immediately I drew my hand away.
Like I knew I was not supposed to touch them.
Like there's no touching here.
Just you can look, but there's no touching.
And so it really felt like they were intentionally presented.
Like I said, although I could not see the mother, I could really recognize and feel this nurturing presence nearby.
I want to say almost like mother to mother type of thing.
And I wanted to say too about the clothing they were wearing.
It was like she intentionally put them in that clothing, but she intentionally put them in that clothing, and they also kind of liked it.
They enjoyed it. This is something that they would kind of do it. They will dress up and find clothing and put it on and do this thing.
But she, the mama kind of orchestrated the whole thing. I believe maybe, in part, she knew.
that I would accept the children.
Given my, some of my work background,
I think she knew that I would accept these children
and be able to relate to them
and not react to them in fear
versus if I were to, you know, maybe see out in the forest here,
you know, suddenly a large male somewhere,
it would really frighten me probably.
I also really understood that they, for her to show me those children, that they don't have to be on the island.
I do sense that there are beings on the island, forest beings on the island, and I have a sense of where.
but they, my sense was that I can be shown these forest people and they can be completely
somewhere else. They don't have to be nearby or to be in contact in that way. Yeah, so that was,
that was my experience. And what I wanted to say, what really struck me about this is, right,
so the next morning I'm like, whoa, wow, okay, that was, what was that? Okay.
You know, that was crazy.
And then I thought I'm not going to say anything about this to anyone.
I don't know.
There's a part of me that I don't, you know, I was really struggling even to write into you about this,
which I ended up doing because of something else that happened, which I'll tell you about.
But I, you know what, I just feel a respect for these beings.
you know, I don't want them harmed.
I don't, I don't, I'm not going to go out and search for them.
I don't want other people searching for them.
I don't want to put them in danger.
There's, I want to just let them be.
And if they decide to show themselves to me in some way, shape, or form, then that's fine.
But I don't want to intrude.
I don't need evidence, et cetera.
But what ended up, so, so, so I.
So I was, I want that, all of that said, I wanted to be really careful about, should I say anything about this or should I not? Okay, well, this kind of experience in the way that I have it, it feels safe to talk about it. Like I'm not putting anyone in danger in that way. But what was really interesting is I, there was, I ended up having, you know, sometime later this, you know, some feed pop up.
up on YouTube that was, I think I mentioned this to you. I think this person named Todd or whatever,
he has like a military background and he would attempt to track Sasquatch is what he'd say,
like for days on end and he's like military and camo and like, you know, crawling on the ground
and through the underbrush. And I was like, that's kind of ridiculous. And I should not say that,
but I was like, oh, what's that? And I, but I ended up clicking.
on the thumbnail.
And in this one episode, he showed these picks of what he called a watcher.
And it looks exactly like these children.
It looks like what an adult version of these children would look like.
And there's just, that was like confirmation for me.
I was just like, whoa, there's no way that someone could have made up what I actually
saw. So, yeah, so that's my interesting experience while living here.
That is-
Forced people.
That is a very cool experience. And thank you for sharing that because I know that's a very
personal thing. Regarding what you experienced when you were seeing the boy and the girl,
Do you remember anything about what the environment was like that you were in when you were seeing them?
Yeah, it was, the environment was, gosh, I want to say it was here.
The background was, you know, it was trees and lots of bushes and stuff like that.
They were very close.
Their backs were like against the bushes.
It was a leafy green environment.
That makes sense. Yeah, that absolutely, absolutely makes sense. I think I can definitely understand what you are saying when you were saying you become like alert in the dream. When I came back from Oregon in July, had extremely, extremely, I would call them vivid dreams for about like a month to month and a half.
about the area.
Now, it wasn't like, there were, like, shadows in them.
Like, I wasn't seeing things, but, I mean, you could tell, like, it was just the
environment was very vivid.
And, like, if I could, it felt like if I could control where I was moving around
in the dream, like, some really interesting stuff would happen.
But I was never to that point.
But it was very, very weird, very strange.
Yeah.
And I was not the only person to have that experience that was also up in that particular area in Oregon, the Willamette National Forest.
Also, it sounds like you're talking probably about an individual named Todd Standing.
Oh, yeah, I don't know his last name, maybe.
I'm going to guess the way you're describing it and then the watcher terminology, I think we're probably safe in saying that.
But the weird thing is, is that how you said that when you saw that, it looked exactly the adult version of the child that was, you know, shown to you.
I've also had other people on the show say that what they saw was exactly what is shown in Todd's documentaries or YouTube episodes.
And, you know, Todd is a very, in the community of polarizing individual, just because, you know,
Because of, some people think it's absolutely not real.
Some people are like, yeah, it's the most real thing I've ever seen.
But it is very interesting that some witnesses are reporting that, yes, what I saw is, is the thing that everyone thinks is completely fake.
I know.
It's weird, right?
Yeah.
It's very weird.
Well, he does his work with gusto.
No, he does.
Yeah, he does.
But yeah, and when I saw that, of course, I think the picture that comes to mind, the thumbnail that I, you know, this little that I clicked on that I saw of his, I don't know, in my minds I'm thinking they were more sort of a sandy, light brown color, but these guys were like, like that given more of a black color, you know, black fur and ashen skin. Oh, yeah. It was just, it was.
alarming how how it looked like what I saw.
When some individuals have experiences,
dreams, things like this that are so vivid and you have visualizations of,
you see things in these dreams, did this affect the rest of your life afterwards in any way
or what happened afterwards?
Well, I think it just, well, okay, afterwards,
I feel like when I have now, when I go out into the forest or into, let's say, into the forest or on the land here,
I think I have a heightened sensitivity of am I being watched or not.
you know, I am, and I think like that's my own thing of like, oh, are they here?
Am I being watched?
Am I not?
And not all the time, but definitely some of the time I am aware of that.
And I think the thing that changed for me is just, is just more confirmation that for me, I just really want to make sure that if I'm, you know, out in the woods in some of these areas,
that were like I said where I have felt an ease that I'm actually with someone else or
bringing my dog along that kind of thing versus just by myself.
That makes sense.
Definitely.
This has been a really fascinating conversation just because most episodes on here, I talk to a lot of, you know,
hunters or researchers, but I think the ones where it's, you know, maybe not a, it's actually
physically in front of you, but also there is, you're almost having a dream or vision.
I think those are very special as well.
I honestly do think that there is some, a big part of this phenomenon that we're going
to really figure out in the future. Maybe some of us are figuring out already. We kind of mentioned
telepathy beforehand. I think there's a lot of really interesting things that they can do that
maybe our science isn't calibrated to completely figure out what's going on. Or maybe we're just
not supposed to ever figure it out. I don't know. But yeah, I don't know either. It's easy to really
get caught up on it and forget just to be a human.
So I really try to just balance it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've also felt like part of some of the impressions, I guess I should say, that I have also received since then is just, you know, a realization that they don't need me.
They don't need me to do anything for them.
You know, they're just fine.
They don't need my help.
So, you know what I mean?
It's like, I don't need to gift them.
They don't, you know, perhaps the children might like some of those things, but they don't need anything from me.
And they, I feel like they, you know, I don't know.
I guess that's just what I want to say.
They don't need anything from me.
I do have, I am curious about some facets of their, of their lives.
And I suppose if, and I have asked to be shown that in a way that seems appropriate to them if they, if they are willing or they feel like it is a benefit to the rest of humanity.
And so we'll just see if that happens.
I think that's that that's a great way for you to be after having that experience, you know, having the respect, putting the ball in their court, but just being okay with whatever happens.
Avery, I want to make sure also that you were able to share everything that you had wanted to share on the show tonight.
Yeah, I think so.
I think that's everything.
that's that's great that's great well i want to say you know thank you for coming on the show it was a
very enjoyable uh conversation and definitely you know you'll if you could keep us uh in the loop if
if anything else uh happens in the future uh we would love to to hear about it yeah i definitely
will thank you so much you have an incredible podcast i love the way you are with people so thank
you thank you just wanted to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode
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