Bigfoot Society - Left Alone to Survive Against Bigfoot: A Tennessee Encounter

Episode Date: July 5, 2024

Join the Bigfoot Society as they talk with Marsha Clarke, a seasoned researcher from the BFRO. Marsha delves into a nightmarish experience when she was left alone in the Tennessee wilderness. Hear her recount the chilling events: from a juvenile Sasquatch sighting, strange alarms, and handprints on her vehicle, to being ambushed in dense fog. Her preparatory measures and the eerie tactics of these elusive creatures make this a must-listen episode for any Bigfoot enthusiast. Discover the detailed strategies and follow-up encounters that left Marsha second-guessing her decision to stay alone.Note: This episode ends right before a 1 hour long INTENSE Strange Days that picks up all about the intense Paranormal Activity that happened at Marsha's house after she got back from the expedition at the end of this episode. It also includes a Bigfoot research technique that could be deadly in the wrong hands. (I don't recommend anyone do it and these episodes are for entertainment use only.) DON'T MISS THE STRANGE DAYS EPISODE!!! (Join the Patreon to access this bonus content.)Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail]🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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Oh, really good, really good. Nice to be here with you. Fantastic. So let's go right off the bat because, you know, I've heard a little bit about what you've been into in the past. It sounds really fascinating. But tell me right off the bat, like, what is it that got you into Bigfoot in the first place? I had a very close encounter class A sighting early in my life in 1984 and it always hung with me and as I went through my career in the Marine Corps and later as a field geologist being out in the field for weeks and weeks at a time around the United States around the globe. Always had these unusual things occurring

and now that I point in my life where I can really focus upon the questions I have, I'm just starting to dedicate those scientific principles I learned as a meteorologist and as a geologist. And so I have to answer this question to myself and

I have to prove it to myself. And that's what's driving me. very very interesting what was the incident that got you connected to the bfro um well initially i i was in the field doing some contract work with the u sGS

um in 1999 and i happened to be walking down the path and bumped into mr that moneymaker i was doing my work he was doing his and we just both pass each other at trail. Later on, I had done in Montana doing some work and has some very unneutral occurrences in terms of big foot occur. And I just started asking more and more questions.

And I was, someone told me, hey, you know, you should check out this website that's put out by BFR. And so at the time, they had the blue discussion boards and I jumped on the internet and started checking them out and talking to a few people and communicating. And I started to see that, you know, there's some credibility here. And so I just kept at the back of my mind. And then later, when I retired, I said, you know, but I'm going to follow through on this and I signed up for one expedition. I've been on 15 expeditions for them, formal expeditions,

another 10 or 12 informal private expeditions with other BFRO team members. And so I, and plus being out of my own, I like the methodology to BFLO. I like the duality of collecting information, the process of collecting the data, but also there's another component of public relations and public education. And so I think those two mission statements out there, I think, is what takes me to the BFRO and not others. not looking to see anyone get hurt, not looking at hurting one of these rare animals, just simply want to educate the public and collect data. And I like that model.

Very, very interesting. The thing about this podcast that I do, I talk to so many different types of people. And another question that gets asked usually is, but it helps you know exactly, you know, what might be going on with a person is, in a way. When you think about how to describe what this creature is, how are you categorizing what Bigfoot is? From what I've observed physically, in person, what I've experienced in observing their behavior, on many occasions.

This is a member of the Homelessaping family. This is a fellow primate to us. I hear this mistake commonly on podcasts. Human beings are primates also. It's not there's primates or than humans. We're primates also. Right now, we're the highest order of primates. that exists, however, we're all primates.

Anyhow, I see this as a homo sapiens. There's legitimate DNA testing out there that clearly demonstrates. These are a member of our genus in our species group. It's just its own special branch. And that's how I see them. that that is very interesting let's say that let's say hypothetically uh tomorrow bigfoot gets discovered and they are they're here they're with us do you think then we might be looking at a situation where they're the they're the top of the the tree or maybe it's they're kind

of on a level playing field with this with us is that a is that something you've ever thought of of before? Well, when you can, this is going by Dr. Jane Goodall's methodology and terminate and criminology.

Because of our use of tools, brain capacity, etc. And because we're the ones creating the rules, we see ourselves as the top of the pyramid.

Right? We define the terms. So, and if the department material tomorrow was that news press conference saying we are going to formally recognize these previously unrecognized hominids that are living within our forests in North America

I still see them as a member of the Homo sapien group they're not quite homo sapiens Sapien, homo sapien, which is what we human beings are. However, they're a member of that group, and not as adept with tools, not as adept with language, not as adept as we are homo sapiens. However, they're a member of the group. It's a thing where it'll be so interesting to see what happens one day, hopefully within our lifetime. I hope we get to have conversations like that. I remember, yeah, I remember as a kid, living and growing up part of my life in North Florida,

going up with a school bus out on a limestone covered old dirt road. And every trash day, watching three different Panthers, knocked down trash cans. and then the Department of fishing game in the city of Florida telling us that Panthers don't exist. We see them every week at Trashburn. We could go up to the local dove and if you wait around at sunset, you'd hear them. But then again, you were told they didn't exist. And it's kind of funny, it wasn't until one of was videotape going to,

through an corrugated steel alligator road crossing tube. One was videotape with a camera going through one of those tubes. That one source of videotape was considered enough evidence to say, oh yeah, that we're going to declare that they're real, they're here. Half the people in Florida knew they were there. And so my first question is how, you know, how come the same rule doesn't apply? But I'll let that go. So when you're formally recognized, I think it's a better way to look at it.

And then we can go that next step. Gotcha. It is so interesting how in so many different states, the wildlife departments just don't accept or they don't say that big cats exist in their area. I don't know what that is. That's probably a different conversation. Yeah, it is. But that's an example.

For example, I believe it's the state of Idaho or Washington that has a legislation that was passed about a decade ago. that says that it is illegal to hunt, shoot, at, or molest any previously unrecognized or registered private. Some of the states are quietly coming around adding legislation and rules to protect these guys without actually jumping up and waving the flag. Right. They don't do that. Okay.

Which, you know, if that's the stuff we have to take, then that's the stuff we have to take. I think we have a lot. And that, and I'm going to go further in depth with this, but I think there's a lot we can garner and learn. And in terms of who we are as homo sapiens. And I think there's a lot we can gather from this cousin of ours. Absolutely. So, Marsha, let's get, let's get. right into it. So we'll kind of, we'll start here first. So I know that when you go on, from what I've

heard, I haven't been on a BFR expedition yet, but I know that sometimes there are certain things you have to sign and you might not be able to say certain things. But are you able to share any specifics about what states you may have gone to on these expeditions? I mean, I've already asked the more senior coordinators, that question of what I can say and not say. I can speak generally of a state, what state specifically when we're talking about an incident. We can speak about the general practice of rules that BFOO follows and procedures. It's a pretty common format that we follow, and it's done for safety. But yeah, I can speak of a state.

My area's specialty is both sides of the Appalachian from the Pennsylvania border south. So Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, North to South Carolina and Georgia. That's where I've been circulating now for some time. There's multiple plans and I think most of those are related. And so that's what, even though, I mean, sky's the limit, really, but I sort of focus right there in those days. Some of these expeditions you hear about, they really have some extremely interesting things happen on them.

Are there any that stick out in your mind from over the years that we're like, wow, I can't believe I was on that. expedition where that happened. Yeah. Well, first off, I should put it out there again. It's a doing mission of public information, public awareness, in gathering data and information, and doing it in a safe environment. Other groups, they may lead you out in the forest and do reckless things,

and not so much of control format. and God forbid if anyone just hurt. The worst I've ever seen is I think someone got stung by a bee and then someone got some ant bites on their clothing as it was. That's about the size of it. A very memorable expedition this occurred in Ohio. During that expedition, I had a squat less than a foot away from my ear while I was laying in my cot, in my tent. On the other side of my tent, breathing in and out quite heavily, and do a little growl. And that same expedition, I was actually touched.

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I was pushed by a squash, and then I happened to observe and record with a fleer a hunting party by probably a family. clay and a swatch. Female, two juries and two males. And happen to observe a hunting party with them. At the same time, this is the same expedition. And then have them run through camp stealing food off the table. And you actually can, later in your cot, I'm a little bit older, so I don't sleep on the ground.

So I had a metal cot. And I can actually feel the weight of the footsteps hitting the ground, and I can feel it transmit through my cot and go, wow, what's that? So, yeah, that all happened in one expedition. However, I should preface it. I should also put an asterisk that. I've been a couple of expeditions where the most encounters have had was having a few acorns thrown at me, and that was it.

So I can't say that that happens on every expeditions. other expeditions and weather catches you that rains non-stop for four days and it's 45 degrees so that's just the nature of the use but yeah laying in my tent where I'm sort at an inquiry my head's higher than my feet my cot my tents only so wide my That's eight feet wide. I'm six foot seven, about 300 pounds. And so I slide down my cot throughout the night, have to wake up, push myself up.

And then all of a sudden, I'm hearing this rough, heavy breathing, less than a foot away from my ear, all of a sudden, heavy white noise, my ear start ringing, and then a hand. My feet would push out the side of the tent. and a hand pushes both my feet and slides my, makes my entire body slide up my cot. Yeah, that was, that sort of shakes you a little bit.

You roll out of the couch, get to the middle of the tent, and you sort of sitting there going, okay, what's going on? In the morning, you go out, first light, you've got steps, 16, 17-inch of wall, around a new tent, Smatted grass with food stolen off tables next to you. Yeah, that's pretty eventual. That is really intense, Marcia.

There is a section you talked about that. I want to ask you about it. So you said white noise and ringing in your ears. Do you think that was related to the Sasquatch? Yeah. Yeah, I think what it was is, and I have research data on this we can speak up further with instrumentation

readings I think it was some form of infrasound or whatnot other people in our group who had long duration of recorders going on actually recorded me moaning and yelling of pain because of this noise happening

it was just so loud. And so I think it was perhaps their form of communication or infrasound, maybe being zapped or an extent to zap. But it was extremely the loudest white noise. I've heard artillery. I've been in the helicopter, in the Marine Corps. I know what loud noise is. And this is painful.

this was painful. It only lasted for a few short bursts from what I remembered. However, the duration of me moaning and pain lasted almost four minutes on the long duration recorders that we keep in camp. So it was enough. It took me out of my deepest sleep. And I could actually hear this animal breathing heavily and grunting. right next to my ear.

Did anyone else in the campsite also, were they also affected the same way or in other ways during that time? No. The person, possibly 40 feet on the other side of the path where, their tent was set up, they had a table out, they had some food on the table, not as a gift situation, but just left, forgot it there. They heard the squads running up and heard the table shake, the food being taken. The other members of our group who did the long duration recorder, they heard me yelling and moaning in my sleep and pain.

There were others just down to my left that had handprints on their cars. as well as I did it. And then in the morning, finding the footpress around the stands as well. And then a partial input on the site of the same. And this was in Ohio, you said. Yeah, this was in Ohio.

That's the best description I can use. Yeah, no, I totally get it. We can't get any more specific than that. But, like, I can think of a few areas that, that, yeah, Ohio can be crazy. A lot of people might not realize. that, but it can be wild in some areas. I've been in one, two, three, four.

I've been in four different research areas in Ohio over the last four years, three years. And without a doubt, each area is unique. However, there is there is definite activity. there is they're there and you can see it I've had two if you were using the BFO classification of ABC I consider spotting the squash to a clear infrared monocular

or binoculars I consider that a B plus I'm not I consider it A is you see it with your own eyes in person definitely If it's still a fleer, I sort of consider that a B plus. So I've had B there, I've had multiple B pluses in Ohio. Like I said, numerous encounters there.

And the place is renowned for it. I mean, if you look at the history of Salt Forch State Park, they actually have a whole center established by the state. Ohio recognizing Sasquatch in the park. Oh, yeah.

They actually have events that take place in the state park celebrating these hominous. So yeah. I want to go back to the night

where you had those interactions. So at any time, did you hear any sounds that sounded monkey-like or ape-like?

or ape like or primate like in any way? It was heavy breathing, some gruffness, like a gravelly low tone, part of the breathing process. It's my assumption that they had been running. There's probably two, the footsteps identified that there were two,

that they had been running through the force to get to our camp. And so they were breathing quite hard, quite heavily. And so, you know, if you run pretty hard for a long distance,

you're going to have a grab in and out process of breathing. But, no, there was no chatter, no samurai chatter, nothing like that. Sure. You mentioned there were

handprints captured on cars. How big were these handprints that were captured? Some of them were measured. If you were to spread the fingers with your hand out, as far as you can, from the tip of the thumb to the tip of your pinky, having that in excess of 16 inches. Oh, my goodness.

And the fact that there was like a silky, like a silty, like oily, like oily substance, that was there as well. I've seen those types of handprints and other locations. And I think that's really suggestive as perhaps maybe

where they nest or maybe the geology of where they nest. Anyhow, getting another sample that you can do a chemical analysis of it and see what kind of clay it is. But anyhow. But yeah, the numerous cars, in fact, one of our senior people, very well-respected person, he has a file of Bigfoot fingerprints.

Because we get so many of them on automobiles and equipment and RVs and whatnot, then he actually carries our fingerprint kit. as an experienced person and doing that kind of data collection. And we actually has a data file on fingerprints, which I think is extremely awesome. That is amazing, actually. I've not heard of that before. That's really cool.

There is another individual who has a database of actually the German ridges from footprints, which are kind of unique in their own like fingerprints. I don't recall his name offhand. and that senior person would be a or I don't have his permission to release his name however he's well respected in the community by hundreds of people

that's awesome and I didn't know that he has this file established and so when we saw handprints all over vehicles up and down the line going out there and collecting that data was extremely important In fact, at every expedition now, we tell attendees, because the investigators know better,

but we tell attendees, in the morning, when you wake up, when you back up, before you go to bed at night, take your smartphone out and take a quick picture of your camp. Don't touch nothing. Take a picture, go to bed. In the morning, there's two things that want you to do.

one take another picture of your cat see if anything's been moved the second is look at your vehicle most places we go as you know dusty roads etc you're going to see handprints a lot of finds on your vehicle squatches like to look in the cars and see if there's something in there we're taking and then we'll take something if you leave it alone. And so we tell attendees to be mindful of that. And in certain areas, it's a 50-50 chance you'll wake up with a handprint or nose prints or maybe your driver door, a back hatch, your SUV.

You may wake up and see that your... ice chest has been rotated and moved around or opened and left open, those kinds of things. But yeah, we put that out there. When you were looking at the handprints and the fingerprints, was there any sebum that was left behind that you noticed? Sometimes there's like an oily substance, I believe it's called sebum by Doug Hichick. Yeah, it's white, oily substance. Right. I believe, again, just being practical here, that if they're clawing and digging maybe for food or in a place where they're nesting, that material is now adhered to their hands and their skin.

And that could be suggested of where they live. But yes, in the pictures, you see quite obviously the white, oily substance with clear swirls. with the three of it was scarring and everything else. That's very cool. I've been on a few private expeditions so far, and on those, we will do certain things in camp

to see if we can make them curious to draw them into camp later on that night. In BFR expeditions, are you guys doing anything? From the expeditions that I've been on, I can only attest to those expeditions. Sure.

Okay. However, it's the general consensus. They know we're there. They see us. They know what food looks like. They know what cameras look like. We don't need to leave out traps or gifting or anything like that. They know we're there.

They see us. In a couple instances, I think they anticipate us being there. But that's just my afterthought. We don't sit in camp and do tree knocks or anything like that. When you get out the trails in your night operations, that's to the discussion of the team leader of whether or not they're going to do that. But they're going to limit that to tree knocks, maybe a howl, maybe imitating an owl call.

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Everything happens for a Reese's. When I've been out on the trails and nightouts, I don't do three knots. I don't do hollers. I don't do screens. It's my general belief that when a squatch does a tree knock, that's an indication that there's at least two or more in the area. Because the splots is only doing that tweed knock, not for your benefit, it's doing for the benefit of another. To identify with something here. There have been times we have recorded a chain event of tree knocks, and where there's a knock and another knock. and then further down another knock and they're communicating perhaps three or four in sequence

and i should after the asterisk like that it's not just going to the three knots sometimes it's rock flapping and in one case actually the clicking of muscle shells and clams oh wow that's that's really cool that's a new one for me but it makes sense to You know, they're using the tools that they have in the area. So why one thing, you know? Can you share a time where you had a, what the BFR would consider a class A or a visual sighting? Yeah. In 1984, I was a young marine.

I went to Bridgeport, California, which was in the Sierra Mountains, California. during the winter for cold weather training. I was standing guard duty in the report we call Fire Watch. Most low pulse of guard duty. And I was doing my shift for three hours. And there's about six to eight inches of snow on the ground. And so you're standing on a pallet that's been put on the ground. So make sure you don't get a hot.

hyper, you know, phosphite through your blues or whatever. And, well, you have your N-16, you've got your cold weather gear. In this particular night, it was the second time I stood fire watch. I'm standing out there. I'm on the midnight to three-shift, clear moonlight sky. You're up in the mountains, I believe it's 7,500,000 feet in elevation. I'd have to check that number. Anyhow, this thing are in very little wind,

and I look over at a tree, this huge tree, and all of a sudden, at 30 feet away from me, a spot steps out from behind a tree. We lock eyes for six, seven, eight Mississippi. and I had my A16 out, I had my thumb on the selector switch to put it on fire, and I just, I couldn't do it, I froze. Like I said, I'm 6-7, 300 pounds, with all my gear on, flat jacket and everything else, you'd look a lot bigger. This swatch, it taught me humility.

And I know it was kind of odd to say, but up until that point, I thought I was the biggest, baddest animal in the forest. Rainforest is a part of that, you know, teaching you're invincible and etc. To explain, that's what to go. However, I believe that. I believe that was the baddest thing in the forest. and I saw something that was 8.5, 19 tall, probably close to 1,000 pounds.

Human-like eyes and relocked eyes at 30 feet. And I said to myself, I know I'm not the biggest, baddest thing in the forest. And I could not move my arms. I like I said

it was six seven, eight Mississippies and as fast as he came up from behind the tree he was back behind it and gone

later my staff sergeant came by you have to report anything unusual to report and I told my stats sergeant and he said listen just put in your log

that you encountered indigenous wildlife. It'll be easier. He says, I've been up here a dozen times. And sometimes you see things. I go, yes, sir. So that's what I did. Later, I couldn't go out there and measure steps and do all that other because you got to get

we had jeeps so you have hubbies back then so you get in the Jeep but you can see the steps where the spacing was probably twice that of mine footprints or I wear a size a men size 15

that's a woman size 17 those want to do the conversion and probably half again is long and double the That was the impression into the snow. Like I said, that image seeing that stayed with me

the rest of the time I was in the miracle. And every once in a while, like in Japan or in Okinawai, at Butler, you're out in woods, you're out on deployment, whatever. you always have, I always have this little snitch about what if that thing is out there. And that's the question that I've been driving to resolve all this time.

That's incredible to have that kind of sighting when you're in the military like that. And also to have your, you said your sergeant, pretty much allude that, yeah, I've seen stuff too, you know, and I'm not going to talk about it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to lead people to think that there's some kind of organized conspiracy to cover up data. Even just looking out for me to say, hey, don't create waves. Just everything's fine. Yeah, there's some strange stuff out here. Even this is the word stuff.

There's strange stuff out here. You don't want you to lie in a library, but just write indigenous. life, excuse wildlife. It makes you wonder if people should start using the terminology, indigenous wildlife, when they do FOIA requests now for Bigfoot stuff. Exactly, exactly. So like you said, the rest of the time of my career, whenever we were in the woods, I always had that in the back of the line.

There's something like that going to pop out again. I never confessed that to anyone until I was well out of them. Corps and that was oh gosh I was a grass student at ECL and I had already retired from the Marine Corps did I ever share that story with anyone? Wow. Have you ever been on any expeditions with the BFRO where there were classes that occurred in those expeditions? Yes.

Yes. Another expedition witnessing, well, it's called a hunting, but we believe it was a hunting party, on this very narrow ridge, like only into a horseshoe valley, and this ridge just comes out into a point. and at a widest part is probably 20 feet wide and that slopes down on the other side 60, 70 feet goes flat toward very short distance

to go back up to another ridge and on the north side of this ridge there's a line of shrubbery like wild oleander or something like that that's for us it's about five and a half six feet tall.

And myself and others were sitting in the circle. We've got a fire going and we're just talking normal, actually like, you know, we're not there for a sastralog, but we are. And all of a sudden, rocks are starting to get thrown at us. Small ones, size of marbles, acorns. They're coming from behind us, and they're all of some from the front of us. and also we're telling our Greek leader

hey, what's up is thrown at us and we're on the top of a ridge there's nothing above us to fall on us so where's it coming from and she's telling us okay everyone keep calm just keep calm so I file up my

and I stand up and I look to the north where I can look over this shrubbery. And in the viewfinder of my flare is this big and I have a separate

white pot. It's this big white hot orb with part of a black dot in it. I'm thinking

I need to calibrate this or something and I pulled it away and it's not an orb. I was looking in a splotch

face so close that it looked like a white orb in my viewfinder. This watch was probably 15 feet away. 13 feet. And I'm standing up looking over

the hedge with the bushes looking down and it's looking up at me. It's standing below me. And its head's almost even to the top of those bushes. So seven or a half, eight feet overall height. Also, that's up breathing heavy.

and I go, there it is. I thought, you only got loud and I shouldn't have done, but I did. There it is, there it is. It's right there. It's right there. And squats takes off, goes down into that little valley. And meanwhile,

behind us, we hear the growling movement of two other much heavier squatters. We also note that six, Six feet away is a deer actually shaking uncontrollably inside the bush right next to us. Literally six feet away.

And it's just sitting there. Totally not intimidated by us humans. They're just sitting there shaking. And we hear the two very large squatch behind us. one to the southwest, one to the southeast. They've made grunt noises. They're jumping up down. They're angry.

They're throwing things at us. Meanwhile, the one to the north has now run down the valley, and it's come up the other side. And when it comes up the other side, it gets behind the blotch, and it starts weaving back and forth. And because of the temperature contrast, it was about 45 degrees, we could actually see on the floor. her breath, you know, like this cold you see the breath. We actually saw her breath. What was so fantastic about that

was to either side of her, there were these two four and a half to five foot tall hot spots in the trees moving around in the trees. There are two juveniles with her. Now behind us, again, this is all having some of the days when

you turn around and the One very large one, he was to the southwest, he stumps off further to the southwest. The deer bolts, so it's running down the slope. The one that was to the southeast, he has circled the land and we see his silhouette

passed between the vehicles. He leaves one hand print on a vehicle fender, and he passes through those four vehicles parked at about 120, 125 feet away. That's how we got there. And so he's passed between those and is now going down slope, making a lot of noise doing it, going towards the female and the two small ones that were in the tree. Standing up and looking across that bush, and this face being so big

and you couldn't even see it all in the fleer. I pulled the fleer away, and I actually saw a face looking back at me. That was a class A. Wow. Can you share what state that occurred in? That was in Ohio. That was in Ohio, too? I was like, that's got to be West Virginia.

No, that's Ohio, too. Wow. I just came back from a private expedition in West Virginia Sunday night. I was out there for four days. And, but, no, this was real final. That is incredible. Did you, were you able to record anything during that encounter? Yeah, we recorded all that on the Fleer.

Oh, man. Most of us have clear, at minimum, a Fleer Scout. Right. And you just tap the button and you record. And I recorded the scratch went down the valley, back up. You get the next ridge, everything, and the audio was also recorded as well. And that's property to be a thorough. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. That's incredible. I mean, I can't even imagine it, but wow, what an interaction. You've mentioned this term hunting party a few times. What's your definition of that? Like, how can you look at a group and be like, oh, they're probably a hunting party? Well, we have to look to this sociologically.

The Native Americans and First Nations people, came to this area, came to North America. Squatchers presumably were already here. And so the fact that they don't have tools like spears and crossbows and 30-outrethorik rifles and etc. They have techniques for hunting. And those techniques are quite similar to what's observed in early the end of Americans, the First Nations peoples.

The fact that and before, Clovis peoples, chasing a group of bison or antelope or deer down the slope off a cliff, or chasing a group of deer from one direction into a waving

group ready to grab them. Okay? That's a behavior that's learned. Now, the squatches learn from First Nations in early Native Americans or did Native Americans or did Native Americans in First Nations people learn that from them? I don't know. Okay? That's a whole different master's thesis on its own.

However, what we observed was a female, the two duties, coming up a slope, chasing the gear that was right next to us, and hoping to drive it into the waiting arms of the two large behind us and we just happen to have the dumb luck of walking into the middle of it. That's why the two, the rocks and acorns at us, that's why all that was taken place to get us out of there. So you see this behavior of hunting. And this has been observed before where maybe one or two sponsors are driving an elk or driving and a group of new beer in one direction down slope because it's easier it was balanced when the trip and a rock or tree etc.

I fall down and then it spots your nabit and grab it. This is a behavior that goes well before Neanderthal, probably the pro-magna era, that early man did. So again, who's hawkins? How does a group of Native Americans slash First Nations people hunt a mastodon that weighs 2,000 pounds? Sure. And all they have is primitive spears. What they do, and they did this with long-horned bison and etc.

is you stampede them down a slope or off the cliff or stay-pene them off a cliff. and when they fall, now they're disabled to need to, you know, harness them to gather them up and fill them. And, you know, that's their source of food, clothing, etc. So here we see that same primitive type behavior occurring. That makes perfect sense. that sort of matches their technology level, that matches their behavior level. We don't see that with a rang ofangs or silverbackerilians,

where Japan Zs, but we see it with this high-order primate, that same behavior. It's incredibly interesting. It's a side of it that I've never really thought of before, and it's a very cool conversation. There's a question that keeps bouncing around on my head, head and I'm going to ask it and just I am very serious with this question even though it may come across a little silly but you mentioned you have a size 15 shoe right yes are you ever concerned

that your footprints are misconstrued for Sasquatch footprints during an expedition no it's not so much because in science there's no such thing it's no such thing it's no questions. Sure. First rule. Second, I do not walk around the floor as bare foot. Okay. I do not walk around the grass where there's thorns and sandbirds and poison ivy. I wear footwear. Uh, I don't. And a sask watch foot, first of all, even if I did, there's two very distinct differences. One is that, that mid break. Right. Exactly. My foot, human's feet, do not bend in the middle.

One, and two, therefore, this question is wide. Plus is wide. There you go. So, no, so even if I had did, that I probably would have multiple, all kinds of problems from that view, but I don't. Fair enough. you also mentioned that you're a geologist earlier.

Have you found that there are more Bigfoot sightings or reports around certain deposits of rock types? Well, it's not so much deposits. Deposits suggest, when you use it to a young guy, I'm telling you a geologist. So when we use the deposits, we're speaking with an action either fluvial or atmospheric or through some mechanical process that it's moved material. Okay. So that answer would be no. However, there is a correlation.

When you map this out, when you look at a map of sightings. Now, I'll put an asterisk next to that we're citing, and I'll come back to it in a little bit. Okay, when you look at CITES, a map of them, and you look in a map of what is called karst topography, paleovolpism, volcanism, or current volcanism, when you look at formations that easily fractured, for example, the slates and mudstones, hillstones, and coal here in the Appalachian, when you look at, um, when you look at the, you look at the, those areas on the USES geologic map, you overlay that with a map of sightings, you'll see there's a direct one-to-one correlation.

It's been well documented that the Nespeer Tribe, for example, they used to store meat in caves out in the upper northwest. Pays had to be old volcanic tubes, right? So they would ask because of a process of war pressure, we'd have ice in them, and now there are tourist traps called ice caves. Right. So, the mulctitudes of these volcanic caves, volcanic tubes, located throughout the northwest. Multitudes of them.

Probably half of them, not yet now. Okay. Now, we look in Florida. That's where there's in Texas and parts of Oklahoma, where there's a strong public, what's called karst topography, fly stone. Underground caverns with surface exposures, where they've been eroded out, etc. Then you're getting to the Appalachian where you have these wonderfully booked scenes of sandstone, claystone, coal scenes, etc., that can fall out and create those dividends for shelter. Remember I mentioned earlier about the slime that the splotches had under hands at the left of windows.

If we sample that and see what type of clay or what substance is in that, we could probably generally match that up to an area where they, recently and then. Very simple CSI episode. What's in it? Where did they come from? Where did that material come from? And you'd be able to find that, okay, there's shale and there's biotype mica and there's

this type of feldspock. Where are those three materials located? You're looking to map. Boom, boom, boom. That's where it is. Wow. So anyhow, you correlate the, you GES geologic map, you don't need the one that's finely detailed, just generality, and you match it with sightings maps.

Now remember earlier I said that asterisk that we're citing, you're going to remember that sightings have classifications. If you get through an area where there's females and juveniles seem, that's probably part of a residential population. 90% of those squashes cited walking through a field walking across the road by highway are males. Not females. Females typically don't wander and move, especially if they have a young one with them. We don't see that with any other primates.

Do the females travel? It's the males who travel. So when we say sightings, I'm talking about resident populations, plans of squash, where there may be a dominant male, two or three females, maybe there's two or three, older males, maybe five or six female, something on the order of like a guerrilla Congress or something like that. They might be forming that. It could also be quite similar to what a Neanderthal family unit, or a Cromagna family that looked like.

That's just a suggestion. And so when we see, you know, someone's driving down highway, whatever number in the middle of the night, and they see this 10-foot guy that's plowing across the 6-8 highway, he's a lone traveling. Right. Okay. Okay, you map those sightings, but they're trying.

to get to another location, or they're migrating. And he's migrating to an area where there are resident females. That's where he's going to. And where are we going to find those redis resident females? They don't move far from home. And that's going to be where you find harsh topography, Kaleo volcanic or active volcanic topography, or where there is well-booked, very mature,

sedentary deposits like the Appalachian. Man, there's a lot to unpack from this one. This is definitely one I will be listening to a few times. This is incredible. The last question I want to ask you, Marcia, is, has there ever been a time when something happened during an expedition, and you were like, you know what, I'm fine with if I could leave right now, I'm out of here.

Yeah, yeah, I had a I had an unusual experience This is not Ohio This is Tennessee It was maybe I should have made better choices This was A BFRO expedition had concluded It was done

However Our senior leadership rented a massive tent that you get from a rental company, you come out, you see them in these car lots and they're huge. They're 50, 60 feet long or 20, 30 feet wide. Anyhow, our group had rented one. And we were camping in the group camping area and had this massive tent put up. So the rental company could not come back and pick it up until that moment. Monday morning. And the expedition had included Sunday morning.

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So all campers, hump, everyone had to go. Even a camp host left for a couple of days. The Rangers were gone at meetings, so the only human beings in this area were me and my field partner. we're there to watch the tent make sure nothing happened to it and to be there to unlock the gate so the rental company to come de-install it

and take it and take it away and docking that it's as any damage we don't want our friend the senior coordinator to be billed unnecessarily for a supposed advantage so we're there to observe all that so everyone we use in the parts Sunday morning like normal expedition and so I'm staying behind and this other person's

staying behind well there well on the other side of the group camp area say to the north now I'm on the very south side and this huge tent we rented was about a hundred yards away from what I can't so during the day he and I go get lunch we come back and uh And so I go over to one of the adjacent fire rings from me about 60 feet away. And a previous camper there left a big stack of wood, beautiful red oak. And I'm going to leave that tonight. We're expecting kind of raining, drizzly, affinity in the 50s. So anyhow, so I go over there with my big foot wagon, carrying a roof of my SUV.

And I'm going to load wood to bring it over for my can't stand. So I'm over there. I pulled the picnic cable close the fire rings by the place to sit down. And I'm sitting on the edge of the picnic table. And I'm slowly stacking wood in my wagon. And at my 2 o'clock, behind the tree, at 35, 40 feet away, a juvenile watch. looks out from behind the tree and then runs to another tree

further to my right to by 3.30, say, 4 o'clock. 6 foot, maybe 6.5 feet, maybe 200 pounds. Very thin hair, grayish, dark gray skin, leathery skin in the face, comical head,

I'm bigger than that Judy. And so my first thing experience was thought means cute, don't panic, don't start breathing loud, don't start pointing, don't start yelling. I just, every time I reach for a piece of wood,

I would gently turn my body a little bit more to my right to see the second tree he's gone to. And as soon as he gets to about my 2 o'clock, 1.30 position, boom, bolts to another, tree. Now he's so far behind me, I'm going to have to make it obvious that I see him and I have turn around. So I turn around real quick and he's split. He's gone. I get on the radio. I call my field partner. I go, hey, guess what? I just saw this. Come on down here. Then you

backtrack this trail and maybe we assume again still. He comes down the trail. He doesn't see anything. Okay. So he goes back to his pet area. I go back to mine. I'm now all excited. I got some more of that word.

I'm taking the back to my hand site. And I'm telling myself, this is going to be a very long night. If that's a juvenile, mom and dad, at minimum mob, has to be in the area. This can be a long night. I told myself, I'm going to have some more encounters,

and I need to be prepared for that. So about 20 minutes later, I get a call from my field partner, says, hey, Marcia, you know what? I just don't feel comfortable here. I'm going to go home. Well, okay. General rule is we don't leave people alone. but I'm a big girl

I take care of myself I'm well-armed in fact I got a special weaponry the deal with Sasquot God forbid if I ever had to so not a problem so he packs up and lose I go back to my campsite

and I start telling myself I need to be prepared I move my tent back a little bit my tent is 8 feet by 16 feet, is 7 foot tall in the center. I moved my tent back about a foot. So the actual back of my tent, the long side of my tent, is directly touching these huge bushes that are behind me. I don't know if they're flower bushes.

I'm not a green plum person. I move my car and I actually back up and drive over my tent tent stakes so that the one end of my tent, 8 foot wide end of my tent, is actually touching the back wheel well, the passenger side of my car.

On the other end of the tent, I take the picnic table and I push it up on end. So the bench is actually on the ground. The bench seats on the ground I stack my toasts that I use to store clothes, etc. I have plastic ammo can from my New Gecko Harbor Freight. I put those out there and I get those stacked up. I have my collapsible kitchen and Coleman stove out there.

So I have what's called a detection perimeter all the way around me. I then take some five-pound fishing line. They go all the way around my camp area and I connect it to what's called a personal alarm. These are pretty useful, pretty basic pieces of equipment that anyone can use. There's no on-all switch. There's one pin. You pull the pin and it's a 65-70 decibel

alarm. There's no way to turn it off. Nothing. Well, you probably take the battery out if they had a toilet screw done. Pick it apart because they only turn off, put the pin in it. So I hooked it up to the fish line. I go, okay, I'm set. If I hear something approach me, I'll know where it's at.

If they jug what ammo can, I know where they're there. If they touch the table, I know they're there. If they're in the bushes, I know they're there. Your social media feed delivers plenty of advice. But it doesn't know you. It doesn't ask questions. It doesn't give physical exams or order tests. Doctors do.

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Do they block hearing to heightened taste? Hmm. That sound seems to show. Everything happens for a recess. So night time comes. I've made some dinner. I even ate a pot of coffee. And starting rain like rain, moderate drizzle occurring.

And that's fine. It's very little wind. So I go in my tent and on the other side of my car is a one lane gravel load. And on the other side of that gravel load is a very steep slope that turns into utility cutout for these massive power towers are power line powers are. and I get in my tent and I'm in there for about a half hour and I hear footsteps on the gravel

well these are bipedal these are swat, slah, splas, that's a bear. We had a bear in camp earlier, black bear in camp earlier he chased it all quite easily so one of my tools is the key valve for my car I hit the alarm, lights,

flash, horn sounds, and I hear the bear running away. No problem. Turned all that off. It's now a couple hours. I have my blog book out. I'm writing down everything that's been transpiring, especially being out earlier in the day. Still excited, but I never seen a Scots look like that,

a juvenile, probably a teenager, Harrison to us. So I'm detailed writing all that down. and then all of a sudden that alarm goes off you go uh-oh unzipped the top door in my tent I look out I see nothing

and I go out to that alarm there it is dangling so my thought is that a stick must have fell hit the strain maybe a bird flew in for it okay so I hold it up to the light I plug the pin back in it. I add a little bit more slack to the string to the tertiary line. I go back into my tent.

Soon I get my notes. I'm finished up a cup of coffee. And now I'm getting a little bit more worried. I now have previously, I've taken my rifle out of my car. I've brought into my tent. And I have it rest of me right next to my car. and I'm finished from my notes and all of a sudden it's now midnight 12.30 in the morning that alarm goes off again

and I'm a little bit more suspect now a little bit more worried. I stand up I have my boost on already I grab my rifle and I'm about to unzip the door and the alarm turned off. That made the hair in the back of my neck stand up. There's no way to turn that off unless we put the pin in it.

I carry a Henry 4570 rickle with specially handmade rounds. I chambered around. I talked to. I sent out loud. I'm armed. I have nothing you want. You need to leave back camp. I then on zip the tent.

I did a 360. staying in the area I go look to where the alarm is and the alarm is gone because two ends of the fishing line is dangling in the breeze. Okay. Now I'm starting to get a little worried.

Maybe I made a bad decision staying there. I get another alarm out. These are small alarms here. It's a key chain alarm. Pretty inexpensive. I put another one. Now I'd bungee the little arm to the tree behind the car. And I said, now that something falls, whatever is bunching to the tree.

I hook it up again. And I'm sort of breathing heavy. I've drank two cups of coffee. I'm pretty much wide away. And I go back into my tape. I sit in there for a few moments. I go, okay, I'm going to lay down. So I lay down to my cot

I got the rifle right on top of my chest And This I cannot explain I immediately passed out I fell asleep That shouldn't happen But it did Next thing I know

It's about Quarter past 7 in the morning It's a light rain in my tent I can see daylight And I hear something moving Outside the action zipping door off my tent. There's something out there.

I hear it moving. Uh-oh. I'm in the same position I was when I lay down. Rifles right across my chest and sit right there. I grab it. I stand up, run my eyes a moment, and I go unzipped the tent door. And I look outside the tent. There's a coyote standing on top of the picnic table that is now back on all floors.

there's a coyote just standing there staring at me about five feet away I assume the way I go out and he runs the way I end up the tent I go out

and I'm looking around and the totes that I have stacked up the ammo cans I have stacked up as a detection perimeter they were all now disheveled around the campsite I had Amokane stacked in three rows of three, the toots were in two rows of four,

and they were all laying individually around me. My personal alarm was still attached to the tree, the friction string had been broken half. I've been cut or broken. I'm looking around, I'm trying to make sense of what's going on. the smell. Not only kind of that drizzly, misty stuff, but it's also fog that in. You can't see any more than 30, 40 feet in this fog. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Your social media feed delivers plenty of advice, but it doesn't know you. It doesn't ask questions. It doesn't give physical exams or order tests. Doctors do. At the American Medical Association,

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everything happens for a recess. Like this commercial break, did you need 15 seconds away from music, or 15 seconds to eat arreases? Perhaps it's true. Everything happens for a recess. Everything happens for a I fire up the Coleman stove, I start water for coffee, and the first thing I do is I pull out my write your own book and my little pit yellow pen and I go start writing down all the events that have been occurring. I want to keep track of what's happening. And so as I'm doing that, coffee's about ready, done perkin. I hear, wow, this tree break I've ever heard in my experience.

and it's happened over to where the rental tent is. Well, I can't see it because of the dead spot. Okay. I set my notebook down and my pen down by the side of the picnic table. I grab my rifle and I go over there to see, make sure no one's messing with that tent. You get over there in this huge limb, maybe five and a half, six minutes, diameter broke cleanly off the side of a tree, six, seven feet up a year. At that point, I said to myself, why do I feel like I'm walking into an ambush or a trap or something?

That's what I feel like. I immediately did 360 skin, everything around me. I've re-chambered around in my rifle, and I'm looking around going, okay, you got me that's what I'm thinking of my head I hear the coyotes further away but nothing near me I go walking back to my tent I turn the water back onto the coffee pot so I can finish perking I sit down in my chair I grab my notebook damn I lost my pen I dropped it somewhere I think I don't know okay so I've given on the pen I finished writing down my notes, everything that's happened,

had my coffee, have breakfast, a pack up camp. That's now about 9.30, quarter 10. Fog is lifted, and sun's trying to come out, the mist of stop. I get everything loaded in the car

except my wagon, which normally I turn upside down and bunch you to the roof wrap. So I'm sitting there, you know what? That red oak is going to really help So I'm going through a different expedition from here. I want that red oak.

So I go over there to that fire ring, that picnic table, we get the rest of that red oak. And as I approach that picnic table, there's my yellow pen. I had been intent, the squatches intentionally pulled me out of my pant. They tricked me to get me out of my pants. And I took that yellow pen. At that point, I said, screw the red oak, I turned around, went back, he was lagging up on the top, bungeeed it quickly, and I go to open up my driver's

door, and there's two handprints on my driver's door. That was not there when that was packing my deer. I looked at that, hit the button unlocked, set the rifle in the seat next to me, got in the car and locked it, and spun out of there. I got to the gate I left the key in the lock Let the gate open And went three miles down the road

Contacted the senior coordinator And said The tent's good, everything's fine But I'm leaving to go home I don't feel safe I think I'm in danger A few months after that I meet up with the same coordinator

Different expedition And She asked me to relate This encounter with the rest of the group. I do. And she goes, well,

I've got something to add to that. That weekend, that Saturday night, the sheriff's department and the Rangers got called numerous times

because of a very, very tall, dark figure looking in the windows, trying to open cars, trying to, and hitting on the side of RVs.

Curious. Anyhow, I get home and I'm still a little shaken by what had occurred. I'm sort of questioning maybe I should have left with my field partner left. Maybe I should have insisted on other, more people staying there. I'm just kind of second guessing myself. that's when the third night I was home was the first time I saw a dark shadow figure in my home which I thought may have been a hitchbacker.

That was that experience. Holy mackerel, that's, I can't even breathe after that. That's probably, I would say, I'm going to say top intense story I've heard in years. That is wild. And that's in Tennessee somewhere. That's, oh, my goodness. You know, the Marine in me tells me I don't run and I'm going to stay in the fight. I know we've all heard of the flight or fight.

Right. Maybe a lot of those not so smart people, but I don't go along with a flight. I stay in front. And like I said, I even have specially crafted ammunition made to keep in my life. rifle just in case. And that's the first and only time I've ever seconded guess myself. Wow. Thank you so much for chatting tonight.

This has been wild. And I know we had talked before about you've had other stuff happen too. And sometimes what I will do is I have kind of like a special after show for Patreon members. on YouTube members. And it's stuff that's not necessarily Bigfoot related, but you've also had some other weird things happen. And would you still be up for sticking around a little bit for the members to chat about that?

Of course. Again, the mission of the BFRO is to gather data and public interaction, but also public education. And granted, the organization. doesn't really push out the paranormal stuff. But things do happen. As a scientist, I have yet to explain them. So, yeah, I'd be more happy to share this with you.

Absolutely. Well, thank you. Before we go, though, in the main episode, can you take a minute? How can people find out more about the BFRO try to get set up with their own expedition, things like that? Yeah, we'd have a great website, BFRO.org. or is BFRRo.net.

Just Google it and you will see we have multiple expeditions go out the country that are guided by extremely experienced people that everything is safely done. And no one goes out by themselves or is left alone or anything like that. And there's all over the country, all over. country from New York to Washington, California, Arizona, Texas, Florida, you name it. Just go to that website, click on the state icon, you'll see it listed right there, and just follow the steps.

Click on, send an inquiry, say you're interested in and then follow up and go from there. You will not regret it. You will not regret it. I have made friends on those expeditions now that I consider them lifelong friends. that you get out on the trail with them, you learn a lot about someone when something is potentially scary happening and they're right next to you. You learn a lot about a person. And they look at you,

you look at them and they go, should we run? Nah, let's stay and check it up. Right. And they do. They do. So anyhow, just go to the website, check it out. There's a vast amount of information there. There are audio recordings or

CISC. There are news articles you to click on. It's a very well-maintained website. And in a given time, they can send messages to you. You can relay them to me. I'll answer whatever I can at any time as an ambassador. And then once you make contact with the DFO, you're welcome to ask all the questions you want of staffing you move along the way. That's awesome. Again, Marsha, thank you for chatting and for sharing what you've experienced over the years. And members don't go anywhere. You want to hit the site to get the after show to find out what Marcia has experienced outside the realm of Bigfoot. So thank you, Marsha. If you'd like to hear more, there is an extra hour-long segment from Marsha, where she stays on for the Strange Days portion. of Bigfoot Society that's a special show that I sometimes do for the Patreon members and YouTube channel members in Bigfoot Posse Tier and above.

Pretty much what happened is after Marcia got home from this experience that you just heard about, she started to experience some wild things at her house that have to do with paranormal subjects. It gets wild. Marsha also shares other cryptids she's had encounters with and a very interesting Bigfoot. but contact method that cannot be recommended. You can hear the Strange Days portion of the show by becoming a Patreon member at patreon.com forward slash the BigFa Society or hit the join button on the YouTube channel. Thanks.

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