Bigfoot Society - Living With Bigfoot in Rural Arkansas | Footprints, Sightings, and Ongoing Activity

Episode Date: January 25, 2026

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Ray and Lisa from rural Arkansas share their ongoing experiences living on a secluded property where unexplained activity has become part of daily life.What began with strange odors and distant screams grew into repeated discoveries of large footprints, wood knocks echoing through the holler, and increasing activity along their fence line. Over time, multiple visual sightings occurred, including encounters with tall upright figures moving through nearby woods and across neighboring land.As researchers and investigators visited the property, additional physical evidence was documented, and several guests witnessed activity firsthand. Ray and Lisa describe patterns tied to seasonal changes, wildlife movement, and the natural layout of the land, including nearby water sources, food corridors, and dense cover.This episode features detailed firsthand testimony, long-term observations, and a situation that continues to unfold. The experiences are shared carefully, with respect for the land and the presence they believe moves through it.Read Lisa's book here: Once Upon a Time in Prim Arkansas. My Journal on Bigfoot: Raw and Uneditedhttps://amzn.to/4sIantZ (Amazon affiliate link helps support the podcast)🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first-hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere. one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it, so settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. Welcome back to another episode. We've got the privilege of talking to Ray and Lisa today down there in the great state of Arkansas.

Ray is a former police officer, police detective, and former Marine. Thank you for your servicer. And Lisa is retired, a housewife, an author of the book Once Upon a Time in Prim, in Pram, Arkansas, my journal on Bigfoot. And I'll have the link to that in the show notes. And you guys are on here to share what has been going on with your property in the last few years. and things as recent as last night. So welcome to the show, guys.

How's it going? Good. Thanks for having us. Absolutely. Also, I think it might be important to point out we got some off-screen friends with us. We got six dogs in the background, which are awesome. So if anyone hears any scuffling, that's all we got going on there. And they sound like there's some cool dogs. Yeah, that's what they're doing.

Perfect. Perfect. Well, guys, where do we want to start with this? I'm going to let you guys take over from here. So in June of, we live like way out in the boonies and we have about three acres of land. About an acre of it is our fenced backyard where our dogs stay. And then another two acres generally is what we call the holler. We just, the first, we moved out here in 2022.

And the first summer we were here, we mowed it down, you know, because it's our property. and we didn't have anything going on then. And then the, I believe the summer of 23, we let it grow, grow back because we just didn't want to deal with it anymore. You know, I want to damage my mower or any, we didn't bush hog it anymore, what they call it. But we didn't have anything until June of 2024. And that's when we really let it grow in. and we started feeding the deer out there because everybody around here hunts and we don't. So it's more like a refuge for the deer.

And, you know, we had a bunch of times where, you know, you'd be out on the back, we have a back porch where we sit. And, you know, you just get this weird smell. It was like, it's like a cross between a rotting carcass and a skunk and a dead animal. But, you know, there's no vultures. you know, just, and then from time to time, I think the first time, we heard like these screams from like our back holler, and there's nobody that lives around us. I mean, just nobody. I mean, we're like half a mile from the nearest person and they're not out that way. They're towards

the left of us. And, you know, it wasn't like, it wasn't a bird. It wasn't a coyote. We know what coyote you sound like. Wasn't a bear. It wasn't a bear. It was just a weird. like scream. It was a couple, two, three times. And we got a little, you know, got a little nervous, not going to lie. And that started June 2nd, 2024. And then June and July, we started to hear more of the same thing when we go out back. More of the screams. You'd hear some wood knocks. And I don't mean like a woodpecker, because I know what a woodpecker sounds like. We got them in our trees. but it was like out in the back 40 where there's just nothing out there. I mean, there's trees and that's it.

I mean, if you walk straight from our house straight through our property, you're not going to hit another property until you cross down through the valley up and over probably a couple four or five miles away. So we started to hear that stuff. The big thing for me that really started it, was January, actually January 12th of 2025. We had just gotten a big snow. We got about eight inches.

And normally I was going to go feed the deer. And normally I take my mower out there because it's a 50-pound bag of deer from now. They're like walking. But it's snow, so I couldn't do that. So I went out there feed the deer. And as I'm walking back just beyond our fence line, I see this. It looks like a footprint. I mean, and it's big.

I mean, I have pictures of it. It's in Lisa's book. And nobody goes on our property. I mean, just it's gated in. And it was just like, okay, wow, now that's not normal. So I took a couple pictures. Send him to my brother because he's a hunter. He knows pretty much everything there is.

And he goes, I have no idea what that is. Send him to a couple neighbors that are hunters. Yep, they had absolutely no idea what it was. you know, it wasn't a bootprint. I don't know how degradated it was due to it wasn't that bad off because it had just snowed. So it was a pretty accurate print. There was a couple more around there. But that was the first time that I had really, outside of the screams and the smell, the smell,

that's the first real physical evidence that I had seen up to that point. How long would you estimate that? footprint was. Oh, was 11? 12 or 13 inches? I mean, yeah, it was it was big.

I mean, even with me wearing boots, I wouldn't have made that print. And it was like, it was like one, there was like a couple prints. It was like one that I could really take a good picture of. The other one was kind of, it was kind of half washed away.

And then there was no more. Because we're backed up to like basically the, brush area. So I couldn't tell where they'd come in and where they'd gone out, but I darn sure wasn't about to go back out through the bush. I mean, you could see where there's deer trails and stuff like that. So it was pretty big. If it was something small, like I said, I saw it right away. There was like nothing else around it. It was just, it was just very weird that it was out there. And it was right behind, right, like right against our fence line. And there were some broken tree branches out there too. So, but I was more concerned with the, I was more concerned with the,

what do you call it, the footprint. There was another incident later that month where we, we left to go out, we wasn't going to go into town to do some chores or whatever, just get some groceries, whatever. And we have our trash cans that are out front. They're plastic. They have overlids, you know, the standard ones. And when we came back, the trash can't, one of them had been flipped over with the dome lid on it. So that's something you would actually have to pick it up, turn it over, place it down, balance it, and then walk away. It's not like the wind could have done that. If the wind was that strong, it would just knock it over. That was, there was no, there was no two marks on it from a bear or anything like that. None of our, I mean, we even

checked with our neighbors, but nobody's like a practical joker like that. No. And they're far enough away, too. Yeah, it was just really weird that something like that had happened. I don't know. It's on concrete, so I couldn't, couldn't look for any prints or anything. So, I mean, I wish I could have on that. Back in January, when he found the first set of footprints, I had, you know, we had contacted the neighbor, some of the neighbors, and the one neighbor had told us that while her husband was hunting, he also found footprints just like we did, but he didn't take pictures of them. And he agreed that they were too big for a human. And the gate in between steps was way too large. Then a few days after that, she contacted me with pictures from another neighbor

way behind us. And he has a farm. And he had footprints up to his barn area. It tries to travels in this area. I think we have plenty of water source. We have definitely plenty of food source and definitely areas for it to hide. So it's the perfect area. I did take the footprints and I had them sent to a couple professionals in the field. And it was three different professionals and they all separately came back with juvenile bigfoot footprints were the cause of those prints. From there, we also contacted the BRFO, Bigfoot Research Observatory. So they came out and they did a very lengthy investigation over months. And they found some hair samples. He came out. We explained everything it was going on. He went back, put a,

not a camera, but like an audio recorder back there. And then we went and checked our back fence line where Lisa had seen the first time she had seen a creature out there. And he found a lot of hairs that he couldn't identify in the fence line. We actually took a couple, gave him to him. He, I don't know if he ever analyzed them or whatever. But it wasn't deer. And it was higher up to where it's a bobwire fence. It's a three-strand bobwire fence.

So it's not a dog because it's just, it's too high up. I don't think it was a deer. And we don't generally we don't have bears around here. Well, he took a couple samples. I know he said one came back, I believe, Mountain Lion. And one was too deteriorated. They couldn't tell what it was. It was unidentifiable.

So they couldn't tell. And he found trails where they laid. Yeah. Yeah, there was a lot of trails back. there where they were going. The second time, Lisa, I believe it was the second time she saw the creature, she was out back and she came in and, I mean, it scared her so much, it made her cry. So I, you know, I grabbed my shotgun.

I went, I went, I didn't go through my backyard. I went around the side gate. And I went back there and, I mean, I could smell that smell again. And I could hear something in, I mean, it couldn't have been more than. than 10, 15 feet away. But the brush is just so thick. You can't see anything. And it was just one of those.

You could just, I knew something was there, and I could hear it moving. And I could see the, it wasn't a deer. It wasn't anything like that. I mean, it was just one of those, you know, you get the hair on the back of your scalp standing up. If it's a deer, I don't, not going to bother me. But it was just one of those there. I was like, well, I think retreat's probably the better part of Baller at this point.

that was a really scary uh dog sorry no no something else anyways um so that was like one of the parts that we had we had really gotten that i had first started now i haven't i haven't seen it for some strange reason i'm the only person that has it everybody's seen it but him yeah it's killing me when you say everyone has seen it but him so how many people have had sightings on your property? Myself and I believe five or six others. Oh, wow. Yeah.

We brought him out. Tell me what the spirits came out. That's another day of podcast. And drunken crib as they came out together. And the first time I saw the creature was back in March. I was sitting in the living room. It was like early in the morning and I was playing with a puppy. And I looked out and I noticed something really dark and it caught my attention.

So I went up to the window. and right straight back in the hollered, our neighbor's property is an old abandoned building. It's kind of like a barn. I saw this tall, hairy figure. I could see him, well, see it from the waist up. It was dark brown, it was hairy, had a cone head, and I was just like totally shocked.

And it just stood there and it took one step and it was completely out of sight. It was just gone. And that was the first time I saw it, The second time, all what ones with that? I think it was April. First time was March. Second time was April.

I was sitting on the back porch, playing with the dogs. And I looked to the holler to the left, and I saw him completely standing there. I saw a complete profile of it. It was at least seven, eight feet tall, dark brown in color. When it started to walk, its gait of his legs and its arms were just so wide and so amazing. It was a thin. It wasn't like fat or thing. It was like a baseball player body, muscular but not fat. And I would take me four steps easily to get one step that that creature did. And it just calmly walked down towards the pond area on our neighbor's property. Like I was

screaming at that time because that's the time it was like I can see it all the way. The only thing I couldn't see were its feet except for when it was walking. And it was just, amazing and it was calm and peaceful and it just walked off like nothing totally ignored my screaming because I was so caught off guard and I remember just being so overwhelmed that I started crying because it's just so much for your brain to take in because this is something I didn't believe in. You know, it's something, you know, it's fairy tales. It's like leprechauns and unicorns. Yeah, it's a good story like Godzilla in the movies, but come on. it doesn't exist. So having to everything that we went through and taking it all in and realizing

there's actually really a creature or creatures out there. And that was the second time. The third time was around the same area. I was out in the back with the dogs. And it was, I believe, Somer, because it must have been eating berries because we have big berry patches back there. And it must have been sitting down to eat berries and it just popped up, stood there, and walked away like it was nothing. And I'm just sitting there in total shock. Then we had Matt and Jacob from Drunken Cryptids. We were in contact with him about this situation. And they wanted to do an investigation. So we allowed them. And they came up and him and myself, husband and Jacob and Matt went through the whole area and part of another person's property.

They found footprints, so they took casts of them. That's what I believe they found the knuckle print, which was really cool. Yeah. You can see where somebody had like, it was on the back side or the front side or backside of a tree stump where the knuckles had just indented. It wasn't like deer trail or anything like that. This wasn't on our property. It was one of our neighbors that let us go out there. So they did some, they took some pictures of that.

They got, what do you call it, a plaster, a cast of it. So that was another part. During that investigation and when they came out the second time, we went really deeper into our property than, you know, than we normally do. and along the back fence line, which is right around the area that Lisa saw the creature a couple times, there was a, not, you don't want to call it a trail, but you could tell where something had gone down into, I guess like a little holler area and where there was an area where they were, there was an area where they was flattened out and you could, and they were eating the berries. This is Matt Rogers from Los Culture Reistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yang.

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It got a little bit too thick to where we couldn't go down. And there was another section just on the other side of the fence where I could go further, but it's not my property and I wasn't, you know, I wasn't in charge of the expedition. So I had to listen and come back. So they said no. Yeah, they said no. So, I mean, you could tell where the deer go, but then you could tell where the deer go. but then you can tell where there's something a little bit bigger.

I mean, it's just not that, you know, I know what deer trails look like. We got them all the time. So the second time they came out, they came out with a lot more of night vision equipment, thermal stuff, all that. That night we heard a lot of knocks. We heard a lot of growls. You know, we, I mean, we went into our neighbor's property a lot more than we did. because he's got a, he's got like deer trails that go over there too.

And will you tell him about what you guys saw that night? Because I was. Well, you should tell him about the bones. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. So we're going down to the, it's like a, it's not a, it's a trail that leads to a deer stand. My neighbor has a deer stand.

And up in on the branch of a tree, which was like way hard. And I mean, I could barely reach it. and I'm 5'9 and extended like that. Somebody had placed the vertebrae of a small carcass or animal up there. Now, it wasn't my neighbor because I checked with him and he's not going to do that. It's just, it was one of those things where it's like, you know, you actually have to put that up there physically. It was, I don't, I don't want to say.

That was just kind of creepy. We also found when we went back there, little hides or nests where you could tell they were building something. a couple times and you could find, we found like some prints around there, but they were kind of degradated. And when we went near one, we could hear something out past where we were. It was like a growl,

and we kind of backed off at that point. We found where there was a lot of saplings that were like bent over, broken, not by the wind, and they weren't dead. I mean, you're probably talking two-inch saplings, maybe, two, two-and-a-half. It's not something that I can break on my own. That was that part of that investigation.

Like I said, we covered a lot of ground and probably took us a couple, three, four, five hours that night to do all that stuff. And then you tell them about what y'all saw. Yeah, well, some of the Matt and one of the other gentlemen, well, they were out in the woods. They were being flanked by one of them. And Matt kept saying they were playing peekaboo with him. and he could see the eye shine and they have one I don't remember it was a video or a picture

where one of the gentlemen was where they were talking and was looking out and to decide you could see the shape of one of them so he has that um when a couple other ones said they had some kind of observation in contact with them well they were in the back it was myself um Liz miss Liz and Larry we were in the front he was Larry was running all the um tech stuff. All the tech stuff. And Liz and I, we were just chatting away talking. And we were sitting there and all of a sudden this very big gray mask start coming towards

us from, it must have come out where you guys had just left. It started coming towards us. And I turned to Ms. Liz and Larry said, do you see what I'm seeing? Because I wanted to confirm if they were seeing this big gray mask that I did. and they both saw it as well. And it was kind of weird. It started walking and it got to our big foot sign. We have a big one in the yard.

And it stopped and it just started going like this, way and back and forth really weird. And Larry called them on the walkie-talkie. And I remember you and Jacob came running up. And soon as we heard their, I guess your keys and stuff, and your gun shaking from them running, it was gone. It was just, where did it go? It was gone.

But all three of us saw, and it was about eight foot tall easily. And that night they heard the hoops and the hollers. And I mean, there's a weird bird sound they make as well. I mean, it's very distinctive sound that they're making because it is nothing that's normal to Arkansas. It's like a tropical bird. I can't even describe it. I was going to ask, can you try to imitate it at all or just it's too weird?

It's too weird. But it's funny because anyone who's heard it will stop dead in their tracks. It's like, that's not right. That's not normal. And it's like, well, yeah, that's them. I mean, we have times, you know when they're there because it gets dead silent. The frog stop, the cricket stop, the bird stop. There is no noise whatsoever.

I mean, it is dead, dead silent. Yeah, that night when we went out back there when she saw, that was in the summer. It was June or July. And in the summer out here, everything's going. Crickets, chaketas, birds, everything's going. But like I said, there was a few times when it's just nothing. It's just in all of a sudden, dead silent. So that, to me, that's like a, there's a predator out there.

And we've had very, very few mountain lion sightings out here. Very few. What we've had to do is install basically lighting along our fence line to keep, you know, keep them out of the backyard. So it's, we have some along our side side fence over here. We've got some on the side of the house. We had the electric company come out and install like a giant stadium spotlight. that points toward our house, not out to the field, because I don't want to, like, get them going.

And we have, like, a giant work light that we normally turn on at night that shines out into our yard. So that kind of keeps, I guess, I guess you won't say keeps them at bay. What happened actually last night was that I forgot to turn the light on. And Lisa ended up seeing a big gray form out just on the other side of our fence where our dogs went. So I went out there this morning and I saw a couple tracks. I had to put the lights up for our own protection because for a while, they would come up and bang the house. That's really scary. And in the beginning, I was, I'm not going to lie, scared to death, horrified, didn't know what to do, reached out to every expert out there, anyone who knew anything about Bigfoot.

I went on these platforms everywhere asking questions, how do we protect yourself? What do we do? We started with a few lights that was okay. We decided we were just going to protect the perimeter of our house where we mainly go and the hauler we would lead to them. We figured we'd give them the hauler. That's their space. Go for it.

We're not going to bother you. But keep out of our private space. That's all we asked for in return, you know, to coexist. Right. We haven't seen it just started up again because it's January. We haven't, you know, this is about the time it started last year. Um, they didn't come around during November, December because, uh, obviously it's deer season. And we have, we have a lot of Christmas lights up in the front.

I mean, like a bunch. So they probably didn't like that. But those are all down now. And, um, deer season is over. So the deer are coming back to our property. We're starting to feed them again. So the print this morning was, it was 14, 15 inches long. Yeah.

Um, so it's like, it's, it's in the same spot where, it's actually gosh I say within five feet of the spot where I took the first print from last year I mean right in the same area so it's you know we expect it to start kicking up because it's been a mild winter

they've been yelling a lot lately yeah it's been real mild we haven't had we've had a dusting of snow but it's been in the 50s 60s for a couple weeks now so and the deer are back we you know so it's going to start kicking up again and the thing is we know there's more

than one. There's got to be at least three that I know. I know there's two brown ones and there's the gray one. And sometimes when we're, because we sit out in the porch all summer long, every day after his work, we go out there and we sit and the dogs play. It's our family time. And sometimes I'll go out during the day and sit out there with the dogs. And sometimes you can hear them and they're doing the yelling, but you'll hear one yell to the left and then you'll hear one yell way from the right somewhere and it gets closer and closer and closer. It's like they're yelling at each other to find each other in the area. And that happens a lot.

And sometimes when I was on the porch, especially in the summer, they'll make a noise like a whistle. And they'll try to get my attention. And I'm not really good at whistling. And sometimes when I do get a whistle out, occasionally they'll whistle right back, which is kind of cool. They got a bit playful after the investigation. And I think what we learned to do, we put up all the lights around the house.

I mean, we've got tons of lights. If the lights go out, they'll come up to the house. There's no doubt about it like they did yesterday, even with the other lights. But we keep our windows and doors closed and curtains closed. If they don't see in the house, you know, they don't get as curious. But in the summer, you of course want to leave a window open and get some air and a little bit of light. I can't take it. So in the bedroom, when he's like doing work or watching his sports and stuff, I'll be in the bedroom and stuff like that.

And I've had it on several occasions where they'll go from the fence and throw rocks at my window. Just small pebbles to get my attention, especially after I turn off the TV. So it's kind of like, are they watching the TV? when I have it on. Because as soon as I turn it off and go to bed, all of a sudden you got these pebbles hitting the window. And the first time I told Ray, he went the next day and looked.

There were footprints right where, on the other side of the heads, where the pebbles were coming from. And one time I remember the pebbles were thrown, and I looked out the window, and I saw the head of one of them. You can see that, they have like a conish head. It's got that point.

And the fur, you could see it. Our fence is six foot high on that side, and it's all wooden on that side, and you could still see the head. So that one was got to have been one of the juniors probably about seven feet tall. Yeah. I mean, you know, we try to live in peace with them. You know, I'm not going to start on, won't be none. But it has, you know, I mean, anywhere we go, I mean, I have to carry a gun now. Carry God just for safety.

Yeah, so if I go to my backwood workshop, got to carry one. If I go out to feed the deer, got to carry one. I've gotten used to it. It's just... They follow you to the workshop. Because we have from the house to the workshop, what's that distance about? 30 yards. 30 yards.

30 yards. But we have the house, the fence from the house, then we have the woods. And you can be walking to the shop and you can hear them in the woods falling in you. You can feel the heavy footsteps. You can hear the twigs breaking. And you can pretty much hear them breathe. And you can tell they're just like gawking side by side with you, but they're far enough in the woods where you can't see them. But you know they're there.

Especially in the winter. In the summertime, it just gets overgrown. And nobody, you know, it's overgrown because nobody's doing it. Nature just took over over. We believe and live and let live and give back. We look at it this way. If they leave us alone, we'll leave them alone. We've only let the Bigfoot Research organization come. out and then Matt and their crew and that's all we've allowed on the property because we want to

keep them, sorry, we want to keep them as peaceful as possible because we don't want to antagonize in any way. Yeah, and I think that's really smart and I would say hopefully you continue to do that too, just especially in the type of situation you're at, as you said, where it's very like it seems to be controlled, but you get the wrong person in there and like, all right, let's rev it up. And then, okay, see you later. And you don't want that. You don't want that.

We've had a lot of people in our town and the town next door with also similar sightings. There was a family they had built a house on a road about a mile away from us. and the sun was looking out at their back creek, and he noticed a big dark figure in the creek, and all of a sudden it stood up. He described exactly what I saw, same size, same shape, same color. And that boy was, of course, taken totally off guard.

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We have the farmer. We have another person. He has a big lot where he's near a creek where they've had experience with big rocks being thrown at them because the creatures didn't want them at the creek. Some people have the big hides on their property. I mean, they seem to frequent. we must be this corridor for them that they frequent through. I mean, there is a person that lives behind us,

and I guess 30 years ago she had an experience with them. And there's just so many people that have had the same experience. So from what I can gather from where the people are, they're coming from behind us, passing through our yard, going through several pastures and farms, and woodlands. So they're traveling quite a bit, but it seems to be a normal path for them.

Yeah, we have a water source back on the other side of our property. It's not on ours. So they have a water source. They have food supply, deer, berries. Baries. Places to hide. Yeah. I mean, it's real thick back there. There's parts of my property.

I can't even get to. Yeah, it's too thick and super tall. yeah i mean you you really have made if you think about you've made an incredible sanctuary for them especially if they're so prevalent in the area and now there's this large area where you guys own where there's tons of deer berries water source and they don't have to worry about people messing with them uh it's just it is really a perfect scenario for that now it makes it definitely interesting for you living on it for sure we're the only ones that don't hunt right exactly yep that's huge everybody else hunts except for us what is the weirdest thing that's

happened on your property that you don't think is bigfoot related um i don't know they had that silly fairy ring thing oh the fairy ring yeah okay they found out the same day of the investigation Yeah. It was huge. Yeah, we were, we walked over to our, this was right around dusk. So it wasn't dark when we left. So you probably, in the summertime, you got to put it around maybe 8, 8.30, 8 maybe. We went out, did the, we have to walk by my workshop. And we went out and did the investigation down down the trailhead and came back after dark.

and we're shining, just shining light looking for anything. And there was a fairer ring just like it had been there the entire time. And I know it wasn't there when I, no, wasn't. When I first walked by, it just couldn't have been. You know, I wouldn't have heard of them before. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know what it was. It's just a circle in the grass.

Huge. Yeah, it was probably six, seven foot round, maybe. It was like a perfect circle. It's not like I had a, a barrel there or a giant pool there that I moved. I don't have anything like that. And it was just a perfect circle, right? In the grassy area right next to my,

it was like in between a workshop and a tree. It was just the weird. It was there the next day. Then it was gone the day after. Like it had never been there. I mean, that's the weirdest non-big foot thing. I mean, because, I mean, Matt had his theories, but I didn't understand them.

And it's like, whatever. You know, it was just too much. I know how they grow. I read all about that, but it just doesn't pop up out of nowhere and then disappear. I mean, that was really weird. Yeah, that was kind of weird. Has anything out of the ordinary happened inside the house or the workshop during this time, or is it all outside? I don't think anything's happening inside.

Yeah, it's all outside. Yeah. Cool, cool. have any out-of-place objects or things been found around the house or the workshop during this time? Outside, things have been moved. I mean, the trash cans were moved. Some of the ornaments we have in the yard yard ornaments were moved. Some were even knocked down, remember?

Yeah, the chimes. They don't like the chimes. They don't like the chimes. I put the chimes up made. Yeah, you don't like it. I had a big giant wood one that I decided not to put out back because I just didn't want them. But I think we had like four or five along the fence line. And I got them in there good.

I mean, like the wind's not pulling them down. Yeah, and way up. Yeah, and way up. And I don't know how many. I've been out there a couple of times. They just been pulled down at GP. They don't like them because we tried cameras, but they'll avoid them. You know, they know it to go around them. They're really, I mean, it was funny.

because we put up a barrier and we noticed right where we had first installed just motion lights, behind the motion lights, all the tree limbs were broken behind every of our motion lights. And they were literally broken. So it was like they were making a boundary where they knew, okay, if we go here, we're going to turn on those motion lights. We can't go past this area. Yeah. And that was weird. I've actually heard that from at least one or two other situations over the last few years.

And that is very smart when they do that. I've also heard a thing where if you've got like lights pointed out near your house, sometimes they'll like, they'll either break the light bulb or they'll push the light up so that it's out of the way. That's what's weird because what, and I still think we had a big light on our, our back workshop. And it worked for years. And when this activity started and it got

picked up, all of a sudden, it just doesn't work anymore. We try to put a new bulb in. Just absolutely will not work. It just absolutely just, it's gone. It's done. Which is weird because, you know, I don't know that's coincidence or whatever, but it

just seems a little ironic. So he had to put lights by hand underneath so we could light up the area because if the area isn't lit, they're going to come to it because then there's no boundary. Like last night, we had the lights around, but we forgot the back porch and that's a very, very bright light. And that one does kind of go out towards the hauler. Yeah.

The rest shoot in. And that's the only one that shoots out. And the area that would have shot out at is where they were last night. Because we used to have the lights on a timer, but the timer broke. and we try to replace it. And for some reason, it's not working. So we have to remember to turn it on. And we're human.

He thought I turned it on. I thought he turned it on. You know, we didn't. And of course, something happens. Because I think they're very intelligent creatures. I think they're very curious creatures. I don't think they mean any harm because they've never hurt our dogs. Now, the only time they did, I don't know if you want to say harm,

a dog, but we're unkind to a dog. We have neighbors and they have two dogs and they run around. They hunt. They're... Hound dogs. And of course, they love deer, and we have tons of deer and a hauler. So they come over and they're annoying. Not to be rude. They're barking.

They're barking and barking. And one day, I was I think I was just standing out back with the dogs and they were barking at Daisy and Rose and all of a sudden the dog, Daisy, she has a little chubby thing. She came literally, like something had catapulted her out of the hauler.

She was thrown like five feet in the air and she went at least eight feet in distance. And she luckily landed on her legs and she was a little bit like, what the heck? And then she ran off and she didn't come back for months. I personally think the thing threw her out because it was annoyed at her because she just wouldn't stop. And they are annoying. But it was just, I just saw her like fly in the air, which dogs did. don't fly in the air.

And there's no way that dog could have ever jumped that high or that distance on its own. There's just absolutely no way. That's a lucky dog. Yeah. But our dogs, sometimes if they're, we used to have more dogs, but recently we lost three. But at one point we had nine dogs. And sometimes they go out there and bark and we'll know there's something there. But sometimes they'll go out there and bark and then get dead still.

and not move. And they'll rush back to the porch and they'll hide on the porch. And they'll bang and bang on the door till we let him in. I mean, it's like, you let us in now. God forbid, or we're going to break through the glass. So the dogs are always a telltale sign

when they're around. Yeah, especially in the summertime. And the dead silence. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, this, there's so much going on. So you have photo evidence of tracks and the track casting from Matt and Jacob, it sounds like, has there been anything else captured such as audio

recordings or anything like that? The first gentleman that came out, he took about 200 hours of audio, but he hasn't gotten back to us yet. He said he's got to filter a lot of it out, which I understand, but it's been a while. So, I mean, he said when he first started listening to some of the tape, the first thing he heard was where the camera was something really heavy. He said super heavy was walking by. That wasn't. Whenever I would go out there, I would just, he said, you know, if you're going to go out there, let the camera know.

So anytime I go out there, say, hey, I'm coming by. So that way he would know if he heard something. That was me. I think that, I mean, I think, Matt, they got something on there. I think he told you a couple months ago. I can't remember what he got. They got some image off of the infrared that they couldn't identify. I haven't seen him since then, so I don't know.

Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, and then they had the one picture where the one guy was looking or video, and off to the side you could see the dark shape. I know. And then there was supposed to be something else, but I don't know what it was. Yeah, they're supposed to come back out in spring. Yeah.

Okay. Wow. Do you feel that you have ever been physically affected because of their presence in any way? I mean, in the beginning it was overwhelming and undescribable because you have so much fear and you don't understand. And just to try to reach out to talk to people is very hard to do. And we got people make fun of us, you know, because if you don't believe, you're just going to, and look, we weren't believers before. Oh, you were? Okay, well, I wasn't. But, you know, but until it happens to you, it's easy for people to judge. And to find help for something like that is hard because there's not many people out there. And a lot of people will have a one-time experience and it's over and done. We're living with it, you know, pretty much on a daily. basis. It's we never, now we can't tell you they're going to be here tomorrow at 6 p.m.

Or, you know, it happens when it happens. I mean, sometimes it's a couple weeks. Sometimes it's day after day after day after day. I mean, it just depends. They do what they want when they want. And I think they know that on our property, we're going to leave them alone. We're going to leave them safe. If they stay in that one area, we have no problems. Do whatever you want. As long as you don't cross that light line that we have at night, we have no problem. We have no problem. problem. Now you cross that light line, then we have a problem because then you're on our personal state space and then that's saying, hey, you know, we know where we're not supposed to be. The closest thing I can, and I've heard them scream a few times, not like she has, but

the closest thing I guess I can, that I've ever heard to it is, and I'm just referencing because what I know, have you. ever seen i'm sure you've seen the movie legend of boggy creek okay so in like the one of the beginning scenes where he's running through the through the outdoors and he hears it that scream that's what it sounds like and it was and that you know that's far Arkansas i mean fawks is a chunk away but it's sort of like that sound that that's i'm not saying it's exactly that but that's what it reminded me up because i i know that i've seen the movie a hundred times and it's just like okay that's sort of sounds like it um you just have to address you just have to address you

just your way of life. That's all. To me, it sounds like a Godzilla sound. It's so deep and so loud and so long. I mean, a man can't scream that loud. We know it's not, we know it's not a coyote. We know it's not a bear. We know it's not a wild hog. I mean, I've gone through every kind of creature, and I've listened to every creature there is in existence that we can find. Nothing matches up to it. Nothing. To ask a question in a different way, has anything happened on the property, either outside the house or inside the house that most people would consider to be more related to the paranormal? Anything like lights or voices that, like, all of a sudden I heard Ray's voice.

That conversation is a whole other ballgame there. I figured it was. You don't want to get on that conversation. You'll be here for two hours with her on that one. Okay, so there is stuff going on. Yeah. Look, paranormal has been in my life my entire life. I've been able to hear and see ghosts, and that's just been my life.

For 30 years, I was a demonologist, and I went all over the place helping people take care of their issues, demonic or otherwise. You know, but I retired. And after several strokes, you know, my brain doesn't function like it used to. But yeah, I still hear them and I still see them. But that's just for me, my normal life. So I keep them separated. You'll wake up in the middle of the night and you'll hear either like old like 20s,

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We hear that. And chatter. You can hear it. You can hear talking, but you can't make out what they're saying. You can hear the chatter all the time. But that's really interesting. So kind of like, is it like mumbling or when you say chatter, have you heard the Sierra sounds? Is it like that or is it just hard to describe?

Well, you hear the, you've got ghost chattering sometimes in the house, but outside you've got them chattering back and forth. I did have one experience which really freaked me out. And I even asked the neighbor for kids, I was out, I think, in the front yard, just sitting there watching the scrolls. And I heard children playing. But it was a weird sound of children playing. It just, it was really off. And it didn't make sense because right now there's no children around. And it just really bothered me.

And it was right there. And it's like, there's no children around. So I remember asking my neighbor, I emailed her. He said, hey, was your son out playing with a little girl yesterday at such and such a time? She said, oh, no, no, not at all. He wasn't out playing. And there's still a distance away. And it's like, well, there's no other kids around.

Where did this odd children playing sound come from? And it was like the girl's laugh was just, I can't describe it. It was just so off and so strange. It just, it was bizarre. And it just made the hair in the back of your head stand up. And to this day, I don't know if it was the creatures doing it or what. I mean, there were no kids around. Neighbors confirmed their kids weren't around.

It was just myself who was doing that. It's out two kids were playing and laughing. And it just, there's no one there to prove. There's no one, there was no one there. Okay. So yeah, I mean, after knowing the whole, your background like that, it definitely, it puts a whole different spin on it,

but it does make a lot of sense because for so long you were bringing stuff, you know, you're helping, but you're bringing stuff in. And it's like, even though we retire, and I think I'm going to have to deal with this too in about 20 years or whatever, like I'm going to retire, but it's not just going to go away. It doesn't go away. It doesn't. It doesn't.

I mean, look, I have some attachments that I keep with me that I brought with me, but they're my normal attachments. But you're just a vessel. They attract regardless. Even if you retire, it doesn't stop them from coming. they come, but it seems I have a habit of attracting a lot of things. Right. Yeah. I totally get that.

Do you feel like there's ever been any communication between either of you and the Bigfoot that are in the woods? And that can be a very broad question. You know, I talk to them occasionally, you know, because we were told, I was told to talk to them and let them, hey, look, this is our space, this is your space. And the whistling back and forth, I really think that's communication. I think the pebbles throwing at my window when they know I'm there is communication. When Ray was out of town, they knew he wasn't home. They felt real comfortable being really loud and really obnoxious because they knew it was just me and Ray wasn't there. I don't carry a gun. I'm not intimidating in any way. I'm just a little old lady. And they know that I'm a no threat to them whatsoever. I mean, absolutely none.

We're Ray, he's physically fit. He's a male. He can carry a gun. He has more of a defense against them. I think they're playing with Ray because he's one of the only people in the property that haven't seen them. And I really think they're messing with him. They get where he's almost, but he does it.

It's kind of like a game with him. I swear it's like a game of peek and boo. come and get us. Because I know after they did the second investigation, they start kind of like trying to pull you out of the house to go into the woods. They were trying to get him out there. They kept coming up to the fence and banging and hitting it and stuff like that. And it was like they were enticing him to come outside and go in the woods and look for him. I think they enjoyed that kind of cat and mouse thing when the investigation was going on with all those men in in in the woods i mean that's just an opinion yeah but it does it does make sense though

for sure um have you had any uh have you ever approached your local law enforcement um regarding this or no no no because it's not a police matter this he knows that's got you got unless somebody you trespassing don't waste our time we went to the the the bigfoot research organization. We tried the other one. I can't remember the name. Nalwak. No, that's Nalwak.

Nolwak's the one. Oh, yeah. North America. Yeah, Norwalk. That's what it's called. Sorry. Yeah. That's the name of them.

It was a BRFO that didn't come out. It was Nalwack that did come out because they just ignored us never answered us. When we called the BRFO, they're the ones that never replied or anything. So it was Nalwak. I'm sorry, they're the ones, North American Wooding. conservative. That's right. Gotcha.

Okay. I had it back. I get it. I get it. So BFRO, didn't show, and N.A.C. Yeah, I'm so sorry. And they actually put it on their website as one of, they deemed one of their sites. So it's listed in there under Arkansas.

Yeah. A report, yeah. That's awesome. Wow. Wild, wild stuff. My goodness. You probably will have to. to write a second book, I'm guessing.

The first book is only a journal of what we were actually going through and how we dealt with it. And just the stuff that was going on is, you know, it was just these are the facts. This is what happened. You know, make your own decision, you know. But I wanted it because people kept asking questions and they, a lot of people, well, what do you do? How do you take care about how do you protect yourself?

So I tried to explain them how the stages are what we did to protect ourselves. what we went through originally. You know, I tried to, I know someone's going to be in our shoes someday. So I wanted them to say, okay, this is what we went through. I'm sure these are pretty similar to what they're going through. And maybe it will help them and give them some guidance on, okay, this is what I need to do to protect myself. I'm not alone. I'm not crazy.

You know, it just wanted to just give a little help out there because there's so many people to have the same questions that I did, and there's nowhere to go to really find it. Yeah, I definitely know what you're talking about. Man, this is such a unique situation. I think this is probably going to be one of the ones that people, you know, it always seems like we talk about situations that happened about 20, 30 years ago, and I think in the future, this is going to be one of those that is going to be talked about. And we have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow on this property or the day after.

I mean, just the stuff that's already happened is wild. You're handling it the right way, I think. I get upset when he puts down his guard that because it's like you just don't know. You know, I always tell him every time you go out, take a gun. And there's times he doesn't take a gun, then he wonders why I'm cranky and mad at him. It's like, well, you just never know. But we've gotten to the point where I guess we're kind of comfortable. knowing they're here, but it's been two years now. This didn't happen overnight. I mean,

it was fear for the longest time and anguish and not sleeping and not eating because of the worry, are they going to attack our house? Are they going to attack us? What are they going to do? There were so many unanswered questions and not many people could help. So getting answers is very, very difficult. So I started reaching out to, you know, sites and stuff like asking questions. Sometimes people were really cool and helpful. And other times people cruel, nasty, mean. You know, it's like, look, if you don't believe, then don't be on this site.

Yeah, no. I don't insult people. People are actually reaching out for help and assistance. Yeah, some groups out there on Facebook are terrible. I'll just say that. So when it comes to helping people, they don't. Based on what you have seen and what you've experienced over the last few years, how would you describe what Bigfoot is?

And specifically, I know some people are more like, well, it's some undiscovered great ape out there, or is it maybe something closer to a human relative that we just haven't gotten in contact with. What do you think? I mean, look, I haven't seen it, so I don't know. Right. I mean, based on what you're telling me, I would guess it's, I mean, I don't think it's anything, obviously it's not mythological.

It's not Crow Magnum or anything like that. I think it's probably, honestly, I think it's just something we've never seen before. I think it's it's something where it evolved to where it has intelligence. Yeah, and defensive postures that we haven't seen like a, you know, lizards can change colors and, you know, and other things can do certain. I just think it's one of those things where it's developed those measures that we, it just makes us real hard, you know, almost impossible to see them, finding them, you know, that I don't know because

I guess if one of them died out here, you would never know. I mean, the country is just so that it's not like these things are being seen in a city. You know, it's out in the middle of nowhere. So when people say, well, you know, we've never found one so they don't

exist. Think about it. I mean, I could bury a hundred dead bodies out there and no one will find them ever because it's just out of the middle of nowhere. So I think it's something we just haven't seen that's evolved on its own to where it has its own set of defensive countermeasures. Is it as smart as a human? I don't think so.

I think it's smart, though. It's definitely has it. It's shown intelligent. It's shown it knows boundaries. It's got its own language that we don't understand and we don't know. And maybe it's something that it's out there that it just sounds like nature that it could be their language. It would sound like a bird. but it's not a bird, it's them.

I'm guessing this is all, look, at the end of the day, Bigfoot, it's all best guess at this point until somebody finds one. I think the personalities of a Bigfoot totally very like a human being. I think some can be very aggressive if you come on their territory and they will first warn you with screaming and yelling, then they'll do the rock throwing and the log throwing and the sticks. And after that, if you don't leave, well, then they're going to get aggressive. Then you got the ones here, they don't seem aggressive.

But then again, I think they give as good as they get. Now, the same creatures on the one gentleman's property, he decided to shoot and put out bear traps. Okay, they're aggressive when they were on that property because the guy was being aggressive. So they get as good as they give. If you're going to go after them with guns and with bear traps, well, they need to protect themselves. and they know that you're a predator to them. So in return, I believe two of his dogs disappeared and he never found them again.

And I believe that was based on the aggression that he showed shooting up, you know, the field and the area they were in and putting out the bear traps and, you know, trying to cause them harm. We're here. We're not offering any harm and nor are many people around us.

They're live and let live. did that what you were just referring to did that happen around your area too with the bear traps yeah yes really yeah mile two let me see two three three at the most uh-huh down the road yeah but the gentleman was showing them aggression i mean i'm sorry if someone shows me aggression i'm going to show it back and i think they they react like pretty much like human does they have personal like we do. I believe the one we have as a family unit. I think there are three here. I know there are two dark ones that are juveniles and the gray one I think is an older one. The older one is much taller. Geez, yesterday that time is at least eight feet in the air. So he's at least a little

over eight feet. And the juveniles are probably seven, little over seven feet. So I do believe they understand family unit and stuff like that. But, you know, and like I said, I believe they're intelligent. I think they understand. I think they're curious of what we're doing as we're curious of them. You know, they they don't trust us like we don't trust them. I think we've kind of, I don't know if this makes any sense, have some kind of rapport with them, an understanding. Look, you can come in here, you stay in that area. We'll leave you alone. You don't go in this area. We're cool. No, we don't feed them. We feed the deer and the deer feeder. They don't eat the deer food. But yeah, they do eat the deer. And the berries are, there's tons of them. They're wild. So they have the berries to feed on. And they have the water source and the protection and the hiding and everything and no hunting. So we've actually, I guess, created the perfect storm for them in this area. So they feel that they're safe to hang out here whenever they want. And when I have. I've seen them, they've never run.

They've just walked, but their walk is just so wide gated that, you know, they're out of sight very quickly because their walk is just so enormous. I mean, they'll, I would take me four steps, just do one of their steps. And I'd be like a big step for me because their leg and their arm gate is just so wide. but the ones I've seen they're like whatever and just what about their day it's such such a fascinating account guys thank you for for sharing what you are going through I appreciate you uh trusting me with with your story for the show uh it is extremely interesting it's a great case study on on living with Bigfoot in in a current day I want to make

make sure that you were able to share everything that you had wanted to share about your story today. You think so? Yeah, there's a lot of it. Yeah, absolutely. Just a reminder here at the end, if you want to read Lisa's collection as she was referring to the link for her book, and that's on Amazon, right, Lisa? Yes. Yeah. So you can get that as Once Upon a Time in Prim, Arkansas, my journal on Bigfoot.

So go ahead, definitely check that out to get. It's always interesting when you read an account and you listen to an account. So you're probably going to learn more about it if you read the actual book as well. So I'd recommend checking it out. It's a very interesting read. But thank you again, guys, for coming on the show. you know, I'd love to hear from you in the future if things continue to happen. But thanks again for spending some of your time with me today. Thank you. Have you ever heard all the accounts

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I'll probably, I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's, well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that. More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year, you can not only go to the festival,

but you can also sign up for a trek deep in the wild forest outside of Oak Ridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. but there's only eight spots to sign up for this. And yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is searching for Sasquatch. This is a once-in-lifetime deal. It's just, trust me, it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest.com,

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We can talk about your encounter. I was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before. It is an incredible time. you're not going to want to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

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