Bigfoot Society - Matt from Missouri: A Lifetime of Bigfoot and Paranormal Encounters

Episode Date: November 15, 2025

Matt from Missouri has spent over five decades surrounded by the unexplained — and in this exclusive Bigfoot Society interview, he finally tells it all. From childhood experiences with haunted antiq...ues and psychic energy to eerie nights filled with unexplainable screams, strange lights, and UFOs hovering over the Mississippi River, Matt’s story is a rare window into a life touched by the unknown.He recounts terrifying encounters deep in the Missouri woods — rocks thrown from the darkness, mysterious voices mimicking loved ones, and the unforgettable moment he came face-to-face with something massive and unseen. His experiences span generations, connecting Native American heritage, paranormal events, and Bigfoot sightings across Missouri’s wild backcountry.Whether you’re a believer or a skeptic, this conversation will challenge everything you think you know about the supernatural. Tune in for one of the most detailed and haunting Bigfoot eyewitness stories ever shared on record.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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Starting point is 00:02:02 All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Matt today. Matt is a listener from down there in Missouri that has had some really interesting things happen over the entire span of his life. So we've got, it sounds like some ground to cover today. And Matt is going to be taking us back to when things started happening for him and his life. and we're really going to go to some interesting places is what it sounds like. Matt, welcome to the show. How are you doing today, sir? I'm doing real good, Jeremiah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 How about you? Doing great. It's always fun when it's a nice day in Iowa and I'm able to talk to some people about Bigfoot. I cannot do better than that. So can't complain. Can't complain. Matt, as we've already said, I think there's quite the life that you have lived so far. and so I want to make sure that you have the time to share your experiences.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I'm going to go ahead and say, feel free to take us back to when you first started to realize that some things were happening in your life that were out of the ordinary. Okay. Yeah. I'm 55. I'm getting ready to be 56 here. Not too long. The world of weirdness, it started whenever I was probably four to five years old. My mom and dad were an older couple depression era people. my mom would and my dad both they would buy estates and petal antiques on the side my dad was an operating engineer my mother was a housewife and that was a lot of things that she did to make extra money was buy out of estates and petal all these antiques probably started between four and five with an estate that she had bought out her and i were in the basement she i went down first i was just kid just playing it to me everything was a big, just so much fun to go and root through all this stuff and her and I go down
Starting point is 00:04:00 into this basement. And I hear her say something as she's coming down behind me and she goes into me. She said that she was pushed and the door shut. And it was one of them old style sellers with the doors outside the house. And she's screaming for my dad to come and we couldn't get out of the basement. We couldn't get out of the cellar, this basement. And he did. He came and opened up the doors and she told him the story that she was shoved. I'm just kid. I don't know anything. From there, with the antiques, a lot of your listeners may know that they have anything to do with the paranormal side,
Starting point is 00:04:36 that a lot of things, spirits can attach themselves to that. In saying that, our basement was the storage for a lot of these things that my mom and dad would bring home with us. We would have, I'm not going to say hauntings, but we would have things happen, pipes knock, all different things like that. she was that first experience started her and my mom is of Cherokee descent her her great-grandmother was a sorry about that she was a medicine woman she's on
Starting point is 00:05:07 the trail of tears that kind of opened a door doing these antiques where my mom I don't know what it was she started practicing what she did and what she's seen her grandmother do great-grandmother did she was a kid and she would, she'd opened up her self as a psyche. Things really changed after that. Just seeing things, spirits, she would deal with seances. She got into the metaphysics part of it. She even went and was looked at for astro projection.
Starting point is 00:05:47 She was never, her percentage of being, correct on things wasn't high enough for them to use her and anything like that. But she was very good. Very good. I seen her have police ask her about things, many different municipalities around the Midwest. I used to go with her to a lot of those things. This may sound bad, but I think a lot of times a child can have, their spiritual abilities are really open when they're young.
Starting point is 00:06:19 They don't have all the things that we have as we accumulate. life, all this crap on us. And I think my mom used me as a channeling device maybe of some sort. I think that made her perception that much better. Because I would see things are one time FBI had contacted her. It was about a murder. We went and drove, met them. They took us somewhere. And it was just me and my mom, these two agents in a car. And it wound up being a plane involved in this, whatever it was. Like I said, I was just a kid during that time. Didn't really pay attention to a whole lot of that stuff, except for the weird, of course.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Wanda being a plane, she gave numbers, but it wasn't all the numbers for the plane. And I happened to say, these two numbers did just pop into my head. It was numbers that were on the plane. Move along through the years, I seen her do. She would be called the clear spirits from a house. or do different things for people, a lot of stuff during that time. Ouija boards and all that was super rampant, and you should never play with those things.
Starting point is 00:07:35 That just opens a door to a lot of bad things. I never was allowed to play with anything like that. I watched her take care of a lot of those things. Moving along, I'm a little older, about 7, 8 years old. Like I said, I had been, we had, she took me, me and my dad took her wherever she needed to go for whatever. Moving along, I'm about seven or eight years old, then 77, 78. This started the big foot soft-quatch thing that I didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Seven or eight years old, been in first grade, comes around deer season. I'm one of the only boys in the class. I want to go deer hunting. So I start hammering on my dad. I want to go deer hunting and they buy a place. We go down there. I'm about eight years old, my first year season. And it's in an area at that particular,
Starting point is 00:08:33 there was a lot of vocals that people heard around there. I never knew that until just not too long ago. But what people talked about hearing is what I heard back in that time. And they were strange back then. The first thing that we noticed was car door, it would sound like a car door slam. And it would come from different sides. of the woods.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And we would just sit there and listen. I'd always ask my dad. I was like, what is that? He's like, I'm not sure. He goes, I don't know what that is. My first deer season, my brothers, my half brother, his cousin hunted with us.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And never forget it. He's walking, approaching to camp. And we're watching. He's 200 yards away from us. He's walking down the road. And we're watching him. And he spins around and shoulders his right.
Starting point is 00:09:24 rifle and we're all dying with anticipation to see what's happening because we can see he finally comes off rest and he starts walking back to us and he keeps looking off to his right he finally gets there and my dad's what did you see Bruce was there a deer down there and he's no he goes I heard a car door slam and we're the only camp we're last camp on the road there was nobody there. We would continue to hear these car door slams, knocks, sound like someone was putting a roof on a house. It later went to the weirdest thing in that area, and this area is Cadet, Missouri, the Old Mines area is where it is, off of the Mineral Fork River and Arnold Creek. It's where it was at. I'd never forget it. My dad's walking down the road. I'm in the middle. My brother's on the right of me.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I'm probably eight or nine years old. We're pretty good ways outside of camp. And all of a sudden, this thing, man, you know what's crazy is I heard someone say the exact same thing my dad and brother said at the time that it happened. We're standing there, and I'll never forget it. My dad, my brother looks to my dad, and he's like, Joe, what is that? and my dad's sitting there and he's listening to it and he goes
Starting point is 00:10:52 I don't know it sounds like a like an ambulance and my brother goes yeah and almost like an air raid siren and my dad follows up and says in a train and it was the longest deepest scream how it was just too strange and we stood there we listened to it and it did it a couple times and we turned around we went back camp. We didn't hang around too much. In that area down there, and here's the funny thing,
Starting point is 00:11:26 the time frame that that was, car doors don't sound the same as they did then. We're a real hollow sounded now. Then they were big, heavy doors, and they made a noise, a certain noise. Think of a 76 Monte Carlo when you shut that door. It was a noise like that. No more other experiences down there. Go along a little bit later. My mom is still doing the psychic thing. She did that up until up until she died.
Starting point is 00:11:57 So escalated along through my teens. We had bought another piece of property not very far from where we lived. We could commute. It was about 40 acres, nice place. Had a pond on it.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Nice pond. Almost a hundred year old pond. And we buy this place and it had been overgrown for 20 years when we bought it. And I think back of anything weird that ever happened there. The only thing that ever strange happened there, I'll just tell you about two of them,
Starting point is 00:12:30 one of them is real strange. But the first one was, is this pond, we get the place cleaned up, we make it nice. And right before the 4th of July is right around, it's getting the gigging season, frog season. someone can we had big frogs down there big frogs and you would hear them and we loved it and I had never been gigging my dad and I were going to go gigging the frogs disappear the frogs are
Starting point is 00:12:57 gone no hide no hair of them no footprints my dad is super angry my brother's bothered by it and we're going to catch these guys next year I won't tell too much of that but what I'll tell you is I spent many years trying to catch these people getting these frogs. Okay, we thought they were poachers. I never caught nothing, okay? I'd never seen nobody, never caught nobody ever doing it. Several times, which was that strangest thing, I don't even know what even to say about it. Either they would just be gone, twice, of all the years, they would always just be gone. twice in the course of probably 12 years or more, 15 years, those several times I would find the skins of the frogs.
Starting point is 00:13:50 For all frogs would be gone, just the skins. I never could explain that. That was just always the weirdest thing. There I would hear either my mom or my dad call me. That was another weird thing that happened there. one of the times that my dad called me, it turned out to be a neighbor's mule that was screaming. They make a hell of the noise.
Starting point is 00:14:12 The other time was my mom, and she made a statement. I come back to the area that we had a picnic table and all that, and I go, yeah, go, mom, you were calling me? I wasn't calling you. I go, I heard you call my name. And my mom had a certain way about saying my name. Couldn't.
Starting point is 00:14:32 you couldn't get it confused with anything. And she told me, she was, you better stay here, the Willy-Bugger get you. And I'd laugh it off. Both of them were southern folk, grew up poor folk. My dad really was out in the woods.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Both of the families had lots of kids. So I think both of my parents knew, but they never did say much about it. Just little things. So we go through that. That's all. through my teens and into my 20s. I even have good friends in high school that would stay up with me down there to try to find
Starting point is 00:15:08 these thieves. Never did find anything. Probably not really, didn't really notice anything strange. I'd be normal. Never did hear no other than my name being called thinking it was my mom or dad. Nothing really strange happened down there. I'm getting into my early 20s. I go to trade school, meet up with this guy.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Chris, I'll be all saying that. Him and I got the kicking around over in a place across Chain Rocks Bridge, and this would have been the early 90s. Kicking around over there, and if you look at the map there, there's a chain of rocks canal that goes through there. When we were over there kicking around, they were building that. And what they did was they had big potholes that they were taken out. Big place, like you could put two or three homes down in some of them.
Starting point is 00:15:59 My buddy Chris was from up in that area. area and he called them the soup bowls. So me and him, we go over there and we're messing around in these soup bowls after dark, of course, it's late, messing around in a place that we shouldn't have been. And we go down, we're going down through these soup bowls and having a blast and we come up to one, he's got Toyota full-wheel-drive pickup truck. We come up to the one and it's tires, just go over the top of it and we stop right there. and we're pointing out toward the old city workhouse.
Starting point is 00:16:35 It was just right across the river and downstream from us. And there's like a big bay right there, which the bay has gone. And like I said, now it's the chain of rocks canal over there. And back then, a dump was over there, city dump was over there. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos.
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Starting point is 00:18:39 We're down in there, and we're having a good time. We get to the last suit bowl. We park, the truck's parked, and we're just facing off. And he's got the lights off, and we're sitting there, and we see this light, and it's pointing down, and it's shining on the water. on the Mississippi, and it's coming down, down through there. And I look over him, and I was like, hey, man, I go, I'll bet you that's a helicopter
Starting point is 00:19:02 looking for those guys that got out of the workhouse because they had people that would escape from there from time to time. And I know sooner say that. And he flashes his headlights at this freaking thing. Okay? We think it's the cops, right? This is the strangest thing. you could see the light on the water
Starting point is 00:19:26 but there wasn't a being going from the thing in the sky to the water all you could see was that circle on the water here comes that circle out of us and I'm like I said a few choice words to him I'm like dude I go we're not supposed to be in here anyway let's get out of here and he's already backing up and we're going
Starting point is 00:19:47 like I said the wheels were just up over the top of that hump right there He starts his truck up and he's having a hard time getting his tires back up over it. This thing is coming at us and it's freaking huge. Absolutely huge. We finally get back down and we're leaving. We're getting out of there. We're flying through all these soup bowls.
Starting point is 00:20:10 We come spinning out into the farmer's field and the St. Louis area is to our back, the river's to our back. And we're looking right at the city dump right there. And he starts grabbing gears. And we're getting it. And we're almost to the road. And when you get closer to the road, then there was grass and things growed up. And you could see where people were getting in there. As we're approaching where we can get on the road to get out of there,
Starting point is 00:20:39 I guess that county over there had come through and took up all the pipes. And they dug it up so people couldn't get in there. Him and I went in a different way. And he don't miss a beat, man. He downshifts and he cuts the wheels on that truck. And it spins around. And now we're going back the way that we come. And that thing, it come out over the top of them trees.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And it was freaking massive. And it didn't make a noise. It had lights across it. We're headed toward it. And he starts crying. I'm freaking out. I'm looking at the massive size of this thing. And it was just huge.
Starting point is 00:21:22 We probably, I can't even guess how close we got to it. I didn't know what he was doing. I figured out real close. We were getting close to that thing, and he rips the truck around again. He was getting a run to jump the ditch and get out onto the road. And we do. He grabbed gears, and I'm looking out the back window, and I'm looking at this thing, and that's coming to us.
Starting point is 00:21:45 We hit that embankment, cleared the ditch, hit the middle of the gravel road. We slide all the way over, go into it. the they had manicured grass going up in an embankment and then at the top of the bankment was a chain-linked fence. We slide down into the ditch up on the side. He gets control of the truck. We come back out in the road and now me and him both can see it. It's right there. So he's grabbing gears. We're trying, he's trying to get out of there. And I said to him like, well, man, I go, just stop. But let's see what it does. And he said, are you effing stupid? And he's bawling. And I'll never forget it and me and him grab gears out of there. Super weird. That did. My buddy Chris started a whole chain of events that went all down through Illinois that you'll see on the aliens, UFO aliens. There's a show all on it.
Starting point is 00:22:38 My buddy Chris is the one that started that. If he would have never have flashed his lights, that thing would have never come our way. I'm not saying that it wouldn't people down in southern Illinois just down from like the J.B. Bridge wouldn't have seen it. But I think he spurred it to come that way. But anyway, that goes. That's in the, like I said, the early 90s. Him and I are still friends to this day. We still talk about it.
Starting point is 00:23:02 He kind of had a meltdown over it and filed it away and a place in his brain and didn't think about it for a long time. Wouldn't even talk about it. Still doesn't really like talking about it. But anyway, a couple of years in it, this is early 90s. It's about 94. I'm hunting in a place down around Wapapola Lake. with good buddies in mind.
Starting point is 00:23:24 They had the one buddy, his grandma and grandpa had a place down there. The local, not Yod Club, but the local, a little marina that ended up buying it, and they rent this cabin out. He wanted all of us to come down there deer hunting, and that's where he grew up deer hunting at. And I was like, yeah, man, that'd be cool. So a group of our guys that are already hunted down there a couple years, I come down.
Starting point is 00:23:47 First year, everything was fine. The second year, I got a shot at a deer. And this was a weird experience. This is what led to, I shoot this deer, and I give them time to, it ran off and let me back up just a second. Me coming into this place, two years after my buddies went there, I didn't get the most prestigious, nicest spot. I had to walk all the way down the ridge and get to where nobody was.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And it was a long ways, a very long way. long ways. So anyway, I shoot this deer, my second ear down there. And she goes to a place that I hadn't been before, which was close to the lake, not too bad, great big bottom, and real thick. And she heads that way. So I give her a little bit of time. I start walking over there, and I hear a guy shoot. I'm like, that's some of it shot my deer. So I pick up a step. and as I'm getting to about where I think that they are, I hear a boat motor start. And as I get up to him, he turns and looks at me and he's shocked.
Starting point is 00:24:59 You know, I go, hey, I go, man, I was tracking a deer. I go, is that deer wounded? And he's, no. He goes, buddy, he goes, the strangest thing. He goes, that deer you shot, limped up through here. And he goes, it let out a bleat. And he goes, this doe run out of the woods and run up to her. and I shot her.
Starting point is 00:25:15 He goes, your deer went off that way. And at first I'm thinking, you're lying. I know you're lying to me. And I look at and I see where he gutted his deer at. And sure enough, he wasn't lying. There I found blood trap, blood trail going up. I never did find that deer. It disappeared.
Starting point is 00:25:34 While looking for this deer, I find this beautiful bottom. And it's just freaking awesome. And I'm thinking, man, this is where I'm coming both seasons, early season. This is going to be my spot. way back in here, but this is my spot. So that year goes by. Next year rolls up, and we want a bow hunt.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And me and my buddy John, we meet up down there. And it's just going to be the two of us. I could have hunted any freaking place because there was nobody there. Of course, I'm going to go to the place that I found. And I get out there. I do something different this time. I had always used a flat flight going into the woods. woods always had this year bow hunting i were going in early and john had forgot his flashlight i had one but
Starting point is 00:26:24 i told him man i'm just gonna walk in there in the dark and just slow stock my way down in there i'm gonna get to the end of that ridge going the whole plan and i do that and man i get down there and it's nice sun's coming up it's prime killing time and i'm sitting i find this great big old growth tree and two or three guys couldn't reach around. It's just a monster tree. And they're scattered out along the end of this ridge. It looks down into this bottom. And I lean up against this tree.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I'm squatted down. I got a recurved bow. I got my knife. I got a haversack. Got some snacks in it. Some water. And I get leaned up against this tree. I'm sitting there.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I got my bow in front of me. And the time is right. The woods are looking good. I can see real nice. And I'm sitting there for a long time, not hearing anything. The sounds of the forest had taken place. And it was probably 9-ish, 9-45-ish, something like that. And I'm sitting there, and I hear this man and woman, and they're arguing,
Starting point is 00:27:36 and he is chewing her out. And I'm like, holy cow, and he yells back to him, and then he gets right back on her. This is what I'm thinking in my mind. And it was a distinct, I distinctly got a male and female from the sound of their voices. So I start listening to him
Starting point is 00:27:54 and my first thought in my mind was all, I bet you he let her control the Pondoon boat and she wrecked it. That's my, because I'm not too far from the water and that's what I'm thinking. And he yells at her a few more times, yells at her and she's talking back to him. And not in a mean tone,
Starting point is 00:28:11 just more like trying to calm him down. And I'm listening to them. And, man, it was the weirdest freaking thing. You could almost hear, I could almost make out a word or two. And I got to listening to them and concentrating on them talking so much. I don't even know how long it took place. It probably wasn't very long. But I'm sitting there and I'm listening to them.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And it's like I've made the comment on other shows, on other places. The only thing I could associate it with back at the time was, the Muppets and that sweetest chef on there and he'd be like, the way that he would talk. And I'm listening to this. I'm like, what the hell am I listening to here? And he's pissed off and he's yelling at her. And like I said, she was calmly talking to him.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And it was a bunch of words, man. They were talking. And in my mind, I'm still thinking that it's a man and a woman on a boat is what I'm thinking. They're hung up fishing or something. That's what's in my mind. Nothing else.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I didn't think of anything else. other than that. And I'm listening to him. And all of a sudden, she's the one that gets mad. And she starts yelling at him and just reading this guy, the riot act. And I can hear his demeanor changes. And I thought, oh, yeah, you should get in your eyes. What I'm thinking. I'm laughing to myself. A woman's sticking up for herself. And I start listening to her, and she starts getting on him. And she's saying all these words, man. And I don't, and it's not long ago, I heard, follow a lot of different people on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And I followed us with one Bushcraft guy. And he's a Norwegian. And he'll let slip an English word when he talks here and there. And what I can, now, it's funny because I made it up about being that Muppet, that Swedish chef. And here, when I listen to that guy and do his show, Like I said, he lets out an English word here and there. That almost sounded like them.
Starting point is 00:30:17 It almost sounded like they were Scandinavian of some sort. Anyway, I'm focusing in on her because her voice, it seems like I can almost make out better what she is saying. And I can almost make out the words, man. And I start concentrating real hard. And she's yelling at him. And his demeanor changes and he's okay. Like kicking rocks, he got in trouble from his wife. and I'm listening to this and this is what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And he did that a couple times while she was still chewing on his. And I went, it was real weird, man. I can almost make out what she's saying. And she says it again a little bit, talking to him. And I'm just like, and I had focused in and listened so hard. My head was hurting. And I was like, man, I just give up. I don't know what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:31:08 that thought no sooner went through my mind and over my left shoulder comes to this golf ball size rock and it rises past my ear and it goes right in front of me and I'm like I'm in somebody's hunting area completely forget about the boaters that are yelling at each other right I completely forget about them my first thought is I'm in somebody's hunting spot
Starting point is 00:31:35 and I turn around and I look over my shoulder and I start looking in the tops of all these trees, I'm expecting to see a guy in a stand is what I'm expecting to see. I don't see nothing. I'm thinking he's in the ground blind or something. So I'm just standing everywhere. And I'm thinking, man, I need to get out of here.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So I pick up my haversack, put my heversack on, make sure I got everything, make sure I didn't leave no trash or anything on the ground. And I picked that rock up and I'm thinking, man, a guy could have freaking hit me with that. All right, I stand up. and I looked in the direction that the rock came from. I go, hey, man, I go, I'm sorry for being in your spot.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I didn't know this was anybody's. I go, I'm leaving. I sorry, didn't mess up your hunt. I turn around and I start beelining from that big tree. And I don't get 20 yards from that big tree. And another rock bigger. This time, it's real close. It's so close.
Starting point is 00:32:32 He almost got me. I don't know if they're talking. timed it like that to be perfect, but it was a bigger rock. If it did it hit me, I don't know what it would have done, because it was whizzing when it come past my head, come right past my left ear again, and it goes out and from me about 10 foot, and it pissed me off.
Starting point is 00:32:51 At that time, I'm a young guy, I'm strong, I was an athlete, tough guy. I run up and grab that rock, and I spun around, and I said, I go, I told you I was leaving, and I chucked that rock back through there, and it bounced off a couple of, ranchers and boom down to the ground. My first thought is they got the drop off.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I'm thinking, man, the guy's got the drop on me. And I start looking up in the trees again and I don't see nothing and I'd be lying out of there. I get about another 20 yards and I can hear something off to my right. And it's from down in that bottom. And I hear it and it's, anyway, it's where all this is the part that always really gets me, man. It's never the part about the rocks.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's a part when I, after I said that, I walked out of 20 yards, and I can hear something off to the right of me. And I'm like, my thought was, it's a bad guy. And I walk a little bit and I stop and I hear a step. I'm like, damn, that's that guy. So I pick up the pace and I take off. I'm not running, but I'm, I've got a, I'm six foot two and a half. I got 36 inch inseam on my leg. I can move, man, especially back then.
Starting point is 00:34:08 So I'm putting out the meter steps getting out of there. And I go probably another 40 yards or so. I'm getting to up on top of this ridge. It's real broad, shape like a thumb. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos.
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Starting point is 00:36:13 Start getting to that spot right there, and I stop real quick. And I heard it. And now it's closer to me. And he's off, he's golfed down to my right, and he's intersecting me. And I thought he's going to meet me in that about, I don't know, another. 50, 100 yards in front of me is an old plum thicket. And it's grown up and that little bitty fire road crept through there. And I thought, I'm going to meet this guy in that opening up there.
Starting point is 00:36:46 So I take off. And I got a barrel in my hand. I got my recurve. And I start getting that fight or flight feeling. And I can hear him. As I'm walking, he's walking. And he's headed right for that plum ticket. and I'm like, oh man, and I started getting that feeling like I'm going to get in a fight with a guy in the middle of the woods over something stupid.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I was like, man, I shouldn't have thrown that rock back and said what I said. And that's going through my mind and I stopped again real quick. And I caught him. He took two steps. And to me, it felt like he was about 40 yards from me. Now, I had done clear at a pretty good distance. I don't know where they were at. I don't.
Starting point is 00:37:35 So I catch him and I thought he's going to meet me in this field, this old picket up here, this old plum ticket. So that fight or flight, I'm thinking, man, I've got to go out this way. This is the way I go to get to my car. So I take a couple deep breaths. I still get that feeling to this day. I take off and I'm approaching that and I can hear him.
Starting point is 00:37:57 He's coming and he's getting closer to me. And this plum picket was probably, in its heyday it was probably pretty nice size. It was probably maybe 100 foot by 100 foot maybe a little plummet, a little orchard at one time
Starting point is 00:38:12 is what I was guessing. I get right to the edge of that and it opens up and there's tall grass and there's all these little plum trees and I step in there and I stop and I can hear him and he stopped and I turn to my right
Starting point is 00:38:29 and I look down to where I could see the corner right there, and I didn't see him. I didn't say anything. I just stood there, and I figured that he was going to step out. And I stood there for a minute. Nothing happened. I turned, and I start walking, and I thought, if the guy wanted to have it out with me, he would have met me right there.
Starting point is 00:38:53 That would have been the spot. So I keep walking. I still got a good ways to go until I get back to my car, and I keep walking, I keep walking. and I stopped a few times and the guy is paralleling me out. He's following me out. I'm thinking, okay, you don't, he didn't want to fight in the woods or he didn't want to cuss me out in the woods. He's going to do it at my car is what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:39:14 So I was like, okay, you know, that's better. I feel better about that. And, man, periodically, he got close to me. He probably got within 30 yards maybe of me. There was a time when I stopped and, man, I could. I was like, man, I got to be a little. see this guy. He's just right there. I never do see him. I come out of the woods. And I'm feeling fiddity, flighty, because I'm expecting this guy to show up and then I've got to get into this
Starting point is 00:39:42 argument and do my apologies and all this stuff with this guy. We get little butterflies in my stomach and my buddy John. He walks out of the woods. I'd been at camp about 20 minutes or so. He walks out of the woods and lets down his tailgate. He's, I'll never forget it. He puts his bow in his back of this truck. And he turns and he looks at me. He goes, did you know what him? two people talking. I go, yeah, dude, I did. I go, man, I tried making out what they were saying, but I never could understand it. And I told him, I go, yeah, I go, I listened to them for a long time. They seemed like I could almost make out what they were saying. And I go, about the time I just gave up on it, I go, I guess I was in somebody's hunting spot, and someone threw a rock at me, man.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And I didn't tell him about it throwing two rock, the second rock at me. And I never did say anything about it following me out. Like I said, I thought it was another hunter. I would have never, knowing what I know now, I would have said something. And me and him talking about it, he goes, man, he goes, it sounds like gibberish. I go, yeah, I go, they were something Scandinavian or something, man. And to him, I go, it's almost sounded like the Swedish ship off the Mupplets. He got to kick out of a little laugh.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And that's all him and I ever said about it. Never, nothing happened. I didn't, but what I will tell you is, which is strange. I was a vivid dreamer as a kid growing up. I did start getting these nightmares of being chased and not knowing what it was, knowing that I would just run in my dreams. I never put two and two together, and I still really don't. To me, it's just a weird thing that happened.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And the dreams, that could have been anything. At that time, I had kids, a young family working two or three jobs. It could be anxiety. I never did really attest to the nightmares to that experience. It never did really bother me. I really don't have any other experiences with Bigfoot, Sasquatch. After that, some weird things happen. Those frogs being taken from our farm every year continued to happen.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Never did catch them. And that's the later time is probably when the last time that just found the skin is floating in the... That was the weirdest thing I still. You understand that. And it was the whole skin. It wasn't like they tripped. cut off the legs. It was a whole skin. Anyway, that happens. I get done. Nothing, like I said, nothing really happened down there. I end up seeing another UFO. That particular UFO,
Starting point is 00:42:11 I watched it go into a portal enclosed. After seeing that, nothing really ever happened around here. Now, this is a weird thing because on the BFR site, within another mile and a half of where I've seen this UFO, someone in 2015, seeing a softwatch run across the road where I live at now, outside of High Ridge, Missouri. And I was not even into any of that then. No sauce, I thought it was cool. I thought I was almost a gift getting to see something like that. I believed in them because I seen it.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Nothing really weird took place here. I started hunting a farm down in Edgar Springs with my same buddies. They leased this big piece of ground down there. I get on with them. In another same scenario, they had hunted it a few years before I got on the lease with them. And that place is one side of it is bordered. Half of it is bordered by people with big pieces of property. The smallest one is maybe 20 acres.
Starting point is 00:43:14 That property was well over 300 that we were on. And I get down there, get on that lease, start hunting that. And I walked all over that place. I got to know it really good and really liked it down there. I've never had any weird experiences down there. I say I didn't have weird. The one weird thing that happened to me, I was sitting in a blind, and I may have dozed off for a little bit, woke up,
Starting point is 00:43:42 and looking around, I was bow hunting, looking around, and a burr oak dropped in my lap. And when I looked down at it, I just laughed. I'm like, where did you come from? that whole area down it. There's not a burr oak to be found down there. Okay. I've been all over that place.
Starting point is 00:44:00 There is no, and I don't know if you know what a burr oak is. If you look it up, this one still has the husk and everything on it. And I picked it up, and I just laugh, and I look up over my head and I'm thinking of,
Starting point is 00:44:13 did a bird drop? I don't know. I have no idea, man. All I can tell you is what happened. I've still got that thing. So it falls in my lap. Nothing happened there. That was weird, but I'm a logical guy.
Starting point is 00:44:27 It could have been a bird, maybe, a squirrel. Maybe I hadn't seen this burrow, even though I'd walked all over this place. I don't know if it was that same season. It may have been the very next season. My buddy's got a dog, and that dog went with us down there all over the place. We had feeders all over this place, salt wicks and blocks, mineral blocks, and, you know, things like that. Typical things, what a bunch of guys do on a hunt. property. And we had cameras out and all that stuff. Other than that burrow fall on my lap,
Starting point is 00:45:00 the one time him and I go down there, and here again, it's nothing that I would have ever attributed to anything. Him and I, we take off and we're going to walk down to the closest feeder and camera, and we're going to swap out cards. And the dog takes off. She knows where we're going. She runs down the road. Him and I are walking down the road, we get pretty close to us. We're probably 50, 100 yards away. We're pretty close. And here's she come out, and she's got her head down. Her tail is all the way up on her belly.
Starting point is 00:45:34 And she is running as fast as she can, and she goes right between him and I and goes, she's headed right back to the truck. And he's calling her name. She don't stop for nothing. And I turned and looked at him, and he turned to look at me, and she had never done that before. I go, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And she run out of sight back to the vehicle. Don't think nothing of it. We turn around, we're still going to this first sight. And we walk down maybe 50, 75 yards, and you make a left off into the brush, and that's probably another 25, 30 yards to where the camera and feeder and all that stuff is. So we make that little left turn, and he's about 10 yards in front of me, and he stops dead in his tracks. And he's, what is that smell?
Starting point is 00:46:21 And he turns around and looks at me. He's got this horrible look on his face. And I stop and I'm looking at him And he's looking at me And he's just got a horrible look on his face Asked me He goes, do you smell that? I'm like, no
Starting point is 00:46:34 I don't know if I want to or not And I took a step forward And it was like I stepped into Man, I've thought about that And me and him both While we're standing there He's, I don't know what it is And he named off a couple few things
Starting point is 00:46:49 And I'm like, man, it was like A city dump A DK of something some sort. And the smell that I got and what I told him, I was like, man, it's almost got like a thing of burnt hair or something. And we kept standing there. And I actually stepped back to where I was and I stepped right out of that smell. And I was like, man, that is weird. And there happens to be a sinkhole right there. It's an old house foundation. That place was an old farm at one time. And I looked back over my shoulder to where that sinkhole is. And I told him, like, well, maybe it's
Starting point is 00:47:24 trash or something seeping out of that sinkhole that trash pit over there maybe someone threw something down there and he's odd man i don't know that's just horrible that's it no no no no nothing happened we leave we go about our business nothing really happened i got we hunted that for a few years i ended up getting sick and hurt myself i dropped off that lease and on traveling that whole area down there. I really fell in love with the National Forest around it. All the bucks that I killed, I'd never even killed a deer on that property, the years that I hunted it and leased it. I did better on the National Forest side. So that's, I miss, I take a short break from it. That was during COVID, the end of the, around 2018, 2019, and blew out both my wrists, had surgeries and all that.
Starting point is 00:48:18 So I ended up getting back healthy, go back 2023 to the same to this hunting spot. And that year was strange. My son and I showed up there. My other partner, the hunting partner, he shows up, his brother and a good friend of his. And my son and I showed up first. And we get out of the truck and it's dark. Both of us worked all day and then went down there. So it's dark when we get there
Starting point is 00:48:49 And him and I get out of the truck We park where we're going to set up our camp and everything Our tent and him and I get out And of course we do The things you do after a long trip Found the facilities and opened up a beer Me and him both are drinking a beer And hear this rock from up on top of this hill
Starting point is 00:49:07 Here and my son looks at me He goes, you know that? And I go Yeah, I did I go, man He goes that was a rock He goes, you think there's gear up there kicking up rocks I was like I don't know son I would think that they would be bedded down. I don't know if that would be an ideal spot up there.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I really haven't been up there. I don't know what's up there. So we don't think nothing of it. We continue to listen. Actually, that made us go get flashlights. So we went and get flashlights and we walked back out the road. We're standing there. We don't hear any more noise from up on top of that hill.
Starting point is 00:49:38 And we go about our business. Then the other guys start showing up. And the last guy to show up, Brian, he pulls up He gets out He goes there's something up there Making noise And my son
Starting point is 00:49:55 He walks over there and they're talking And my son is telling him Yeah we heard rocks calling him off up there too So we don't think anything of it There's something up there It's deer season There's something up there for sure Don't think anything of it
Starting point is 00:50:09 Nothing really happened to 2023 year Other than those rocks Now we go to 2024 And I had seen another UFO in the span of time. I actually called this one into the police and reported this one. And it was another crazy thing. And the story is why I bring up the whole UFOs. I've heard you other guys talk about how maybe there's some kind of correlation or something there.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I don't know. I don't know if there's anything there or not. But anyway, I called and reported that one, seen it. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos. Either way, just say to yourself, this is a job for Indeed's sponsored jobs. You'll get matched with candidates that meet the skills, certifications, and everything else you're looking for.
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Starting point is 00:52:49 I really, after thinking about it, let me, before I go into that, hold on just one second, I've got to back up just a little bit. This hunting partner that I'm talking about that I come across, the whole thing of the Sasquatch and all that was brought up by a guy.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I told you what my mom did, you know, what I grew up with had seen over in my young life growing up. I moved to another, I've got to tell this because this is what starts the whole thing. I worked for this body shop. They close it down. I leave. I work at a few other places.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I get hired on by a national size automotive shop. And I end up going through a few shops and I end up at the shop I had worked at under these independent people and this particular company had bought that shop. So I wanted to go back there. Just see what it was like and see what this new company did
Starting point is 00:53:51 and how they fixed everything up. So I go back to that shop. At that old shop, me and this guy used to play these jokes on each other and we would try to sneak up on each other and scare each other. Me and him both would come in work early and all that. Even on weekends we would work.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I kept catching these things out of corner of my eye in the shop. and it got so bad. See, sometimes I would think it would be him, and I would go and look, and there would be nothing there. And I can't tell you how many times this happened. This happened so much, and the last time just broke the whole thing, and that's when I went into the office
Starting point is 00:54:24 when everybody got there and asked him what the hell was going on. The last time I'm in this room, and I'm doing my job, and I can see something out of the corner of my eye, and I thought, okay, I got you now, and I thought it was this guy that I worked with, thought he was sneaking up on me. So I walk out of this room, I go to this bench, and I'm completing what I'm doing. And I sketching again, coming around the corner, and I take off running after.
Starting point is 00:54:51 And I go, I got you this time. And I go running around that corner, and I run out into the open shop. And all the lights are off, there ain't nobody there. And I'm standing there. I'm like, okay, enough enough. I've seen all that stuff as a kid. You know, that stuff scares me because I was around that. I've seen things like that.
Starting point is 00:55:10 And I go and ask to tell the boss lady what's going on. She goes like, oh, you've seen so and so? I'm like, hold on a minute. You mean to tell me you guys have a ghost kick around this place? And here I've been seeing this thing for the four and a half years I've worked here. And no one's ever said anything. Anyway, she goes out of business. I leave.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I end up coming back when it's under new ownership. And there's guys there. And I'm there a week. I don't want to say anything too weird, too crazy. I don't want to think I'm a weirdo. So I say something to them guys. I go, hey, I go, are any of you guys seeing anything around here out of the corner of your eye, come up here and work on the weekend or something like that?
Starting point is 00:55:53 The one guy, he pays attention to what I'm saying. And he stops what he's doing and he's looking at me. And he goes, what do you mean? He had an apprentice, and his apprentice stopped. And he's looking at me. The other guy, he's, what do you mean? I go, man, I go, I told him the whole story. I just told you everybody said that same thing.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And he laughed and he blew it off. I'm nuts. He makes a statement. He goes, you ever have rocks thrown at you in the woods? And it freaking triggered something in my mind. And I was like, as a matter of fact, I have. And the guy's name's Lane. I won't say his last name.
Starting point is 00:56:39 His name is Lane. He's the one that started this whole thing four and a half years ago. But anyway, now getting on to the rest of it, after him saying that, this thing popped up on my phone, and it happened to be Miguel's channel. And I'll be darned if it's not talking about a place, and I made a comment on there, and he got a whole of me, sent me an email,
Starting point is 00:57:04 and see if I wanted to talk. I had time I really didn't want to, but I told him the story about the rocks. And I made comments on the section there. And I never did say, tell him the story. I wanted to, but at the time I didn't really think about it too much. And that one episode, for whatever reason, I wasn't looking for anything like that. That started the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I go to another shop and I meet my hunting partner now, my buddy now, and his friends. and then, okay, we do to 2023 and 2024. So that's a few years gone by. And him and I were down there last year, and that last year was the 30 year of me had rocks thrown at me years ago down around Waffapella. So we're all excited. Nothing there tipped me off on anything.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Him and I went down in an early turkey season there. Now, that was strange, but we didn't mark it off anything. Come to find out my, this buddy mine, Justin, he's big into this Sasquatch and that. He would listen to a podcast. He's the one that turned me on to some of them. I actually found your channel and turned him onto your channel.
Starting point is 00:58:19 So I just got engrossed with all that, and he's big in that. Him and his brother have found tracks. They have seen some things down in an area. I won't say the name of that, which is an area where they're seen out there. There's been experiences, lots of footprints in that. But anyway, he's big into that. So him and I were talking, become good friends.
Starting point is 00:58:39 We're hunting this, 2024. We're down there first weekend. No one can show up. It's just going to be me and him. My son at the time had to work. My hunting partner's buddy, or his brother wasn't able to come down. And his buddy didn't come down but just one day. So it's just him and either.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I was worried about getting my spot or camping spot. So I take off and I go down there. at a time and I sleep in my truck. And I'm there, I get down there early. I'm staying there. I'm sleeping in my truck's running. I'm listening to SOSWatch Chronicles and I'm listening to all these podcasts. And I'm thinking, man, getting myself freaked out down here.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And no big deal. Go to sleep. Get up in the morning. Get all my stuff ready. My buddy, Justin, he shows up. He's there. He's getting all his stuff ready. And I look for something and I can't find it.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And he's, come on, man. Let's go. Let's go. Come on. So I've searched several times I can't find it And it really bothered me It was a backup battery for my phone
Starting point is 00:59:45 To charge my phone Because I'd already listened to all these Darn Park podcasts and all those stuff And I've got it in my mind And I had carried a backup battery before But I never made it a big deal But this time I was making a big deal Because I wanted I didn't want my phone to go dead
Starting point is 01:00:02 And the area down there is You get mixed signals here and there. Sometimes you won't get nothing at all. But anyway, we'd get down there. The opening day is horrible. The wind is just so noisy. Me and him are down there. And man, I heard the weirdest noises that day. And he did as well. When we had went down a little bit earlier, it was turkey season. It was like creepy quiet. So quiet, almost hurt your ears. And at the time, I didn't really pay much attention to it. I think he did. Justin did. But I didn't really pay much attention to it. It was so quiet, it hurt. That's how quiet it was. But anyway,
Starting point is 01:00:40 he didn't get a turkey. Anyway, we're in a deer season. Get down there. And it's so, when we were down at turkey season, I had taken my motorcycle down and I went riding while he was turkey on him. Anyway, we're down there. We're about in the field, and it's, the wind is blowing, and it was just the craziest weird things. I start hearing these mechanical noises. and first it was someone who was cutting grass and I hear someone weed eating
Starting point is 01:01:10 and I hear someone cutting wood I'm like what is going on around here where this is at it's a pretty good way is for anybody's place and I'm just hearing all these different noises and just it's all day long
Starting point is 01:01:25 these different noises and I'm like I don't know man that's the worst opening day of deer season I ever had in my life and I keep hearing all these weird noises. And if it wouldn't have done this last thing,
Starting point is 01:01:42 I would have blew it off as just noise, just wind noise, the wind carrying the noise. My buddy texts me and asks me if I've seen anything, and I complained to him and we're both complaining. Nothing. This is a horrible day. This sucks.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I get out the phone with him, we're text messages, I get done. And it's not long. We're getting ready to come out. So I put my phone in my pocket. and all of a sudden you remember when you
Starting point is 01:02:10 before they had the flip phones even you had them Nokia's and you had all these notification noises that you could set up for your alarms and different things and one of them was the thing chimes and I always
Starting point is 01:02:23 I never did like that that notification bell never did like it I put my phone in my pocket and I hear that notification that chime that chimes going off. I'm like, what? And I don't have that for anything on my phone. I reach in,
Starting point is 01:02:39 I pull up my phone, and it's a black screen. And I thought, okay, man, all right, I can explain a lot of things away, and usually I do. I had made a comment to my buddy beforehand that I told him that I'm never going to not listen to the sounds and the fours, because I blew a lot of things off many different times. Just my mind going that way. You rationalize things and you make an excuse for it or oh, it's this or oh, it's that, or it's this. And I'm looking at my phone.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I'm thinking, okay, all these noises I've been listening to all day. I know this wasn't my phone. My phone doesn't make that noise. And I just heard that. So I'm thinking, okay, this is just, this is too much. End up, I come down. We go out to the trail, meetup. We walk out.
Starting point is 01:03:33 No big deal. We didn't hear anything. It was just horrible day. And I tell him about all these noises that I hear. And it was throughout the day. It was a bunch of them, man. I didn't really know where to go with any of it. It was just, it was all this info in my head.
Starting point is 01:03:48 So we had a great night that night, have good food, and drink a few beers, go to bed, get up in the morning, I'm going to do it all over again. We head out there, and it was a better day, better than the first. first day for sure. Let me get out there. I seen deer that morning. I missed the buck that I had been watching doing something stupid. I'm just weird because if I would have stuck to my plan, I'd have got him. Instead, at the last second, I decided to go 20 yards off to the other way. And he comes in behind me. I got him for sure. But anyway, that happens. I get all bummed out. Don't realize. I see Fordow. I see this nice buck. And it's, I'm going to walk out of there.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Him and I meet up. We're going to get something to eat. We're going to go back in and just crash out there the rest of the day. So we do that. Get back out there. And I go to the spot that I was at in the morning. And I was like, okay, I'm going to go up on top of my, this ridge that I hunt, this place. I love it.
Starting point is 01:04:59 It's super thick, and it's a good ways back in there. And I get up, I climb this embankment, I get up on top of the ridge, and it's a real narrow ridge, and when you get up on top of it, you've got like 10 or 15 yards, and it drops off into a watershed. And you have all these real hogbacks and that coming off this ridge and all these little drain, these ditches and that. And I'm looking over at that whole watershed area. and that's where I had seen them foregoes come from. So I get up on there and I lean up against the tree. And I'm not there very long and not very long. Just about got comfortable.
Starting point is 01:05:41 I wasn't setting down. My stand isn't too far behind me and down the hill. And I'm standing there and lean up against the tree. And I'm looking up this watershed and I catch something moving. And it's between 30 or 40 yards. from me and it's dark colored and I'm looking at it and I'm watching it and watching it and like I said I just about the time I seen that thing and I'm getting I'm feeling comfortable not too cold not too warm I walked a long ways back in there it's perfect I hear
Starting point is 01:06:15 off my left and here comes the most beautiful bobcat I ever seen he comes running almost I almost started to make me nervous because I thought he was going to run right to me but he wasn't looking at me. And he runs right up to within 15 yards of me. He goes over and he's beside a tree and he's looking in that same watershed that I'm looking at. I thought, oh, man, this is cool. And he was just beautiful. Now, I say he now. At the time, I didn't realize I thought it was a female. There's a difference between the pattern on the side of them. And I hadn't seen a bobcat a long time. And I just, you rationalize things, okay? I'm looking at this thing up that watershed when this bobcat comes, right?
Starting point is 01:07:02 And it's, we're looking in the same watershed. And he's looking around, and he sees something, and he stalks down there, he jumps down on the watershed and goes after it, and he doesn't get it. And he turns, and he walks up that watershed, and I'm watching him, and he's walking up to where that brown things. At the time, it looked real dark brown then. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed?
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Starting point is 01:09:11 He's walking up to it. I thought, okay, we'll see what... It was the weirdest thing. At first, I'm thinking of my mind, he's going to kick it up out of there or something. And he walks up through there, and he probably is... I keep saying he. At the time, I thought it was a she. And I'll just say it that way.
Starting point is 01:09:33 I see her. She's getting there and she's real close to this thing. And she goes straight to her belly, drops to the ground and stares at it. I'm thinking, oh, she's got babies up there. It must be her baby or something. Maybe she's going up there and check her on break. And I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:09:48 I even thought that. Because the thing that I'm looking at is it looks small, but I can't see all of it. And I'm looking at it. I'm like, man, I don't even know. And she just drops to the ground. And I'm watching her, and she stares at that thing for a little bit, and she turns, and she starts snaking down through there. And she's going close to the ground, and she's coming right back down toward me.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And she gets right across from me. And she gets right across from me, and as she gets across from me, I hear footsteps. And at first I thought, okay, I got a deer coming up on me, but it wasn't a deer. It was a bipedal steps. and I'm leaning up the tree I'm leaning up against, I just lean back and I roll my head down and I'm looking down the ridge and I'm looking to see what it is that I'm looking at or what's coming at me. And I don't see nothing.
Starting point is 01:10:41 There's nothing. And it should have been right there. That cat was staring at it, was staring that way at that thing. Anyway, I'm looking up and I don't see anything. And in between where I'm looking at the top of the ridge and down where the cat is in the watershed, there's a little bit of brush and brambles and through there. And whatever I heard could have been going right into that area or couldn't see it. But it's close.
Starting point is 01:11:05 It was super close to me. Not as close as that cat got, but when I first heard that cat walking to me, that's about what it sounded like off to my right. So I'm staring down through down that way for a long time. I say a long time, maybe a minute and a half or something, and nothing moves. And I lean back forward and I look at that cat and that cat's staring at me. So me and him, we stare at each other for a minute, and then he just disappears. Still standing by this tree. And I'm still, I can see this brown thing up this creek.
Starting point is 01:11:39 And I'm watching it. And it's playing on the ground is what I'm watching. It looks like it's, you know, a cat, like a kitten, and they'll play with a ball. And they go around on the floor and their paws are all over the place. Almost, it kind of, I couldn't see a face. But whatever it was doing something, whatever it was doing something up there. And it's on the ground, and I'm still thinking in my mind, it must be a couple kittens, Bobcats, kittens.
Starting point is 01:12:05 And I'm watching this thing, and I'm watching this thing. And this woodpecker goes off. Peck, pack, peck. He does five times. And then it's like a mile pop. And I thought, boy, he hit something hard, didn't he? And I look around, and then he takes flight. And he's not too far from him.
Starting point is 01:12:23 He takes flight, and he goes across that watershed. said about where that cat was, he gets on a tree, and I'm watching him, and he goes around to the backside tree. I can't see him. And he starts attacking, tak, tick, tick, how they are. And soon as he hits five times and he, it's three. I'm like, well, that's strange. He hits something hard again. I'm thinking, wait a minute, what am I listening to here? And he takes flight and he flies off. And I'm trying to wrap my head around what I just heard and seen. And I'm in front of me about, there's two rock clacks, clack, and then clack, clack.
Starting point is 01:13:08 I'm like, that's rock clacks. Oh, I got goosebumps right now. And I'm standing there. And the first thing in my mind was I looked down to that watershed and they had a record rain down there. I have all the years I hunted down there. I've never seen all the rocks in the watershed, okay? Because it's always been leaf littered, right?
Starting point is 01:13:27 I look down in that creek, and it's a whole creek full of freaking rocks. I'm like, don't you dare to do nothing? Because now I've done listening to all these podcasts and that, and I've listened to all these people in their accounts, and I tell myself I'm not going to not pay attention to the sounds of the woods. Now my mind is like crazy. I'm like, oh, man. So I just stood there, and I try not to let me.
Starting point is 01:13:52 anything bother me. I didn't make a noise. I'm just sitting there. I'm thinking myself, man, I'm just going to stay here and just act like I don't even, everything is fine. Everything's kosher cool. And I go back to looking at that thing. And I don't hear no more noise coming from that little area off to my right. And I get the idea that I'm going to where that cat had stopped at and was by that tree. I'm going to go to that spot and I'm going to look up this tree. It gets me a little closer to this thing. So I do that. I walk to that tree and I'm
Starting point is 01:14:25 staring at it for a minute and looking at it and I reach down and I feel for my from my binoculars. Don't have them. I feel my other pocket from a rangefinder. I ain't got that neither. I'm like, okay, good, great. I always had that stuff with me. I never not have that on me. One or the other
Starting point is 01:14:44 of them or both of them. I'm thinking, damn it. So I'm sitting there and I'm looking up there and I'm watching this thing and I'm watch. Now I can see it a little better. And I'm still, I'm not seeing a face. I'm not seeing anything. Whatever it is, it looks like it's playing around. And then it almost looks like there was two of them. But I'm just going to say that there was one. I even made the comment to friends that I seen two cats playing, two kittens playing. I told my sister that. But I anyway, I'm looking at this thing. And man, my mind is just going crazy. What the hell am I looking at here?
Starting point is 01:15:16 I do the one thing I've never done. I know better. I can tell you this. That will never happen again. I do a stupid thing. I don't realize it's a stupid thing until after. I pull up my rifle and I put my rifle on that thing and I'm trying to see it. And I wear glasses.
Starting point is 01:15:39 I've got a big scope. So I pull up on it and I'm looking that way. I can't see anything. So I thought, man, I dropped my gun down a little bit, see where I got the power set on? Maybe I got turned up to you are or something. And I put my glasses up on top of my hat, and I pull up my rifle again. I'm looking in there. And I'm looking, and I'm looking, and I'm looking, and I can't find nothing.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I drop my rifle down again. I put my glasses back on. I turn it all way down as far as it will go, and I pull my rifle back up. I'm like, this is too weird. And I got my rifle up right at it, and I can, I'm not looking through the scope. I'm looking down the scope, and I'm watching. this thing. I put my scope back up and I can't see it. I'm like, what is this? And then I do it again and I can't see it. I'm looking and I just start getting methodical about where I'm looking
Starting point is 01:16:28 at. I can't see it in the scope. But when I drop my gun down, I'm looking at it. So the last time I dropped my gun and I'm looking at it over the top of my rifle. And I'm thinking I, what the is this. I don't even know. At 3.40, the sky opened up a little bit and the sun come down. And it's shining right down through the woods. And actually, I got a little, what I'm telling you right now took place before I pulled the scope up on him and tried to see this thing. The sun come down through there and it's shining right where that thing's at. And I'm looking at this thing and I see this thing. it didn't have a foot on the end of it and it didn't have a hand on it on the end of it okay this thing stands up like
Starting point is 01:17:25 angels are singing and I can see through the hair of it and it's a chestnut color and the hair is about two and a half inches long and it's a tannish colored skin and I'm looking at I'm thinking what is that I'm thinking I've seen a bobcat that's not a bobcat because it must be a tail of something
Starting point is 01:17:43 that's when I pull my rifle up and I'm looking And then the clouds go back and the sun's gone and I go through the whole thing with the scope, right? And I pulled on the last time and I'm looking at it and I, the last time I do that, and I did that maybe four or five times trying to see this. I'd taken my glasses off once, put them back on. I can't see it. And I start to drop my rifle. And from the property that I used to lease, I hear this, and it's, and it's, well, and it's, well, words. And I'm thinking, and I turned and I looked up the valley, I'm thinking, man, that sounds
Starting point is 01:18:24 like my old hunting spot. I wonder if someone is, it almost sounded like they got a deer or something to celebrate. And I'm thinking, damn, man, that was my old hunting spot up there. And I don't think nothing of it, nothing at all. And I was like, man, it almost sounds like someone bitching at somebody. And I, man, it's getting late. And something told me, and listened to all this stuff. And I'm thinking, you know what, I'm not staying out here in the dark. I can't run. I can't run. I can't run away from anything. I got a bum leg, so I'm like, I'm just going to come out of here early. And I text my buddy, Justin, and I tell him, I'm like, hey, man, I'm coming out. I'm not staying a little dark. I'm coming out. And he's the eye, goes, I'll meet you down to trail. So I start,
Starting point is 01:19:03 I come down off this ridge. And I walk into the creek bottom, I get to a dry, dry creek bed. And I'm going to step, get my stepping to step down into that creek. And here this thing lets off. And it is, man, I have grew up on a place. I've called the owls my whole wife. My favorite is a barred owl. I can get them cackling. It will sound like a whole forest full of monkeys, man. The owls we have around here, if you've never heard one, you would swear that it's a monkey.
Starting point is 01:19:43 You would swear that it's one. So I know what barn owls. I know it barred owls. I know what the sounds of the woods are. And I'm getting ready to step down in there, and here it goes off the biggest barn owl I've ever heard in my life. And in my mind, it's 10 foot tall. And it's got a lung capacity like a freaking elephant, man. And it is so deep, I'm just like, don't you dare hoot at it.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Don't you dare hoot back to that thing. That's not an owl. And I'm just froze. And I'm freaked out. I'm froze and I'm like, and it's close. It's close. I still haven't even got across this creek. I haven't got down in the creek yet.
Starting point is 01:20:31 And I still got about 30 yards ago before I even step out onto the trail, maybe 40 yards even. I'm like, holy cow. I got my rifle on my hand. I clicked the safety off. I was like, okay, we're doing this, man. And finally, I can unfreeze a little bit and I can move. move and I take a step, I get down in the creek, and I'm beeline for that trail. And I know sooner step out on the trail.
Starting point is 01:20:59 I look to my left down the trail and I thought 175, 150, maybe 200 yards away. It probably wasn't that, but there's my buddy standing on the trail. I step out in the trail, look at him, and I know soon look at him and hear it who set me again. And it seemed like he was 30 yards right in front of me. and I look back up the trail and I'm like, holy cow, it's right there, man. It is right there.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And I've got my rifle in my hand. I'm looking that way. I turn to look over my shoulder to see what my buddy's doing and he's staring off of the other way. He's staring up off of a ridge that he was hunting on and he's staring that way.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I'm thinking, oh man, what's he staring at? I turn back around and hear this thing yells at me again. And it is the deepest. I can tell you what it says. There's a guy who's got a video out, and it's a kid who's on his uncle's farm,
Starting point is 01:21:54 and he's picking mushrooms, and he finds a mushroom that's got a bite out of it, and he stands up, and this thing yells at it. That is what yelled at me, but mine was more of a baritone base real super deep, and it said a word. I don't have no idea what it said, but it yells at me, and it said that word, and I put the safety on my rifle, I shouldered my rifle, and I put my hands out. I was like, listen, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Then it's dawning on me. Maybe it's from listening to me podcast. I don't think so. I shouldered my rifle. I put my hands out. I told them I was sorry. I wasn't going to shoot it. I'm thinking whatever I seen was a baby one is what I think.
Starting point is 01:22:36 I think, and the reason I went back at a later date to see what was there and what was, what it was in was an old tree that was rotted. I'm just thinking that maybe it was. they left it there during the day. There's a hidden pond, not too far from there. We did find a huge twisted tree, which I don't know if I got a chance to send you the picture of it yet. I have a picture of it.
Starting point is 01:23:01 It's not too far from where this happened. But I apologize. I told him I had no intentions of shooting anything. I couldn't see it. I just backed out of there a little bit. I finally turned and I beeline for him. and now as I'm approaching him he finally takes his eyes back off the ridge
Starting point is 01:23:21 and he's looking at me I get close to him he's man were you doing owl calls I go no he's what he goes you weren't doing alcohols I'm like no I wasn't man I go did you just hear that aisle up there
Starting point is 01:23:33 he goes no I go you didn't hear that monster owl up there that great big that 10 foot tall barn aisle he's no I go did you hear the guy yell at me he goes no and he didn't hear that either and we weren't that far apart from each other and he goes dude he goes I thought you were I'll call and he goes
Starting point is 01:23:52 there was an owl around me that sounded just like you he goes that barred I'll call that you do he said it sounded just like you I go you're kidding me he's no man he goes I heard it multiple times he goes that's what I was looking at he goes because when I was in the stand or in my place he goes it hooted at me and he goes it was hooting at me then I'm like oh man that's just too weird we get out of there we talk about it a little bit
Starting point is 01:24:16 that things kind of start jelling after the fact. I start thinking about all the things and noises that I heard. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there. What's worse? Being understaffed or being poorly staffed? Well, that's a trick question, because both are recipes for chaos. Either way, just say to yourself, this is a job for indeed sponsored jobs.
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Starting point is 01:26:45 have made down there. I know I might be breached and just grabbing a little bit of straws, but it's just hold on a minute, man. Just hold on. It's too much. It's just like overload. Me and him,
Starting point is 01:26:58 we talked about it for the course of the year when we start talking about wanting to go someplace else, finding a place not so crazy. I want to enjoy myself. That's not enjoyable. Be careful the things that you wish for. I can't say that's what I've seen,
Starting point is 01:27:11 but I can tell you this. I pointed a gun at something and something got mad about it. and it came to me. It came to me, and it let me know. It seemed me to do that. I don't know how. I have no idea how.
Starting point is 01:27:27 It felt it, maybe whatever it was beside me, a real there close to me, maybe it was maybe the mother. I never did see her. I know the noises that she made, you know? The mob pops and the rock clacks, younger experience with heaven rocks throw it at me. I didn't do anything then because I thought I got a whole creature.
Starting point is 01:27:45 full of rocks they'll kill me. That was just, that whole place is weird. We leave out of there. We're wanting to get another spot. So not too long ago, a couple months ago, we head down to, it's around Duke, Missouri area in that area right there.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Not too far from Fort Leonard Wood Army Base. Mark Twain National Forest. And me and him, we laugh about this because you can't even make this up. Me and him, we go down there, we go to look for a spot, where it's not so active, where we can be feel comfortable.
Starting point is 01:28:17 We go down there and we find it, right? We find this real cool spot. And we walk back in there and we find it all. It's great. It's a wonderful spot. I've already got thinking where I'm putting my tent at. And we look around. We find there's a little pond and all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:28:32 And this is great. This is going to be our backup spot. Something crazy happens over there. We can come over here. We'll make this our primary spot. Make that secondary spot. Right? Man, here we're talking.
Starting point is 01:28:44 and we're talking about how much we like this place and we're walking out of it all of a sudden this noise it i don't know he said it sounded like a broken branched in like something breaking a branch what i heard it almost sounded like like when you put a mouth read in you go to a cluck for a turkey you're getting up to that it was like at the end before you go blow it was that last cluck it was like a cluck and then the freaking it crashed and then it was quiet and me and him both, we freeze in our footsteps, I pull out my camera, I'm starting to videotape, he pulls out his pistol, he racks his shell,
Starting point is 01:29:22 and we're standing there, and we're just froze. And I'm panning around, and I'm thinking, we just walked out of the woods. So I slowly turn, I'm looking down the road, but I'm like, I might not see it, but maybe I can pick up something, you know. Me and we're quite hopeful of us. We stand there for a minute,
Starting point is 01:29:39 And he gives me his phone. He does a few things. Give back to him. He turns and looks at me. He goes, you do know that you hear a noise like that. I've got to go see. I've got to see what's over there. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:29:54 All right, yes. All right, but I go, I'm just going to stand right here. I can see the truck. I'm worth 40 yards from the truck, 50 yards from truck. I'm just going to stand right here. And so he walks off into the woods. And he gets a little ways from me. And I see him walk around.
Starting point is 01:30:09 some jokes. I'm videotaped and he might go, oh, there he goes. As he's walking away, Justin is a big guy. And I'm just chuckling to myself. And then he goes, hey, Matt, come here and look at this. And every time he does that, I go, okay, I'm coming over there. So I start heading toward him, shut my phone off, walk over there. And he's videotaping something on the ground, right? And he's looking at it. What do you think about this? And I look, and I go, what about that? And he turns and looks towards me. And he, there's this Fred Flintstone looking footprint right there. It's about 14 inches long, about six to eight inches wide.
Starting point is 01:30:50 It wasn't real big. I'm sitting there. I'm looking at it. And the problem was, for me personally, he's got it all on. He was videotaping it. And I couldn't feel or see a distinct toe in it, the toes. So I'm looking at it. And he goes, man, I didn't even see that.
Starting point is 01:31:08 And he's videotaping it. I'm looking at it. I was like, man, I'm not going to. say that's a footprint. I can't feel the toes in it. You can't really see it. It could have been a squirrel. He goes, okay. He goes, what about this one? And I'll be darned. It wasn't 18 inches away from it.
Starting point is 01:31:25 There's this footprint. It would be like my left foot. And it wasn't big. It was 12 inches long. Matter of fact, the same size as my foot with a shoe on. I put my foot beside it. That's about the same size as my foot. He's, yeah, he goes, but look at these other three prints. And he shows me, I'm like, oh, wow, look at that.
Starting point is 01:31:46 And it was like it planted on its left foot. And it was like it was going another direction. Now, the big footprint that I found, that was fresh. These other footprints, they were old. They were in the ground, and they were old. So I'm looking at it, and he's videotaping where it goes. So I'm like, okay. And I put my hand down in there, and I thought another thing.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I didn't take pictures of. He did. He videotaped it. I put my hand down in it, and I couldn't feel any colors. I couldn't see him, but it's a depression in the dirt. It happened whenever it was wet. So I was like, okay. So I picked up my foot, and I put my foot in there, and it was a dead ringer for my foot.
Starting point is 01:32:28 I'm like, damn, my foot fits right in there, perfect. So I look off to my ride to where that other one is, and like I said, man, I've got 36-inch inseam. I've got a big long step. So I got my foot in there, and I go to repeat. put my reach out with my right foot, and I stepped as far as I almost pulled my groaning muscles. I couldn't hardly make it to the other track, and that was jumping, pushing myself off with my left foot. Matter of fact, it was so far, and it hurt to a degree that I didn't even try to put my left foot in that other footprint.
Starting point is 01:33:00 And the weird thing is, we didn't mean him, we didn't see that. What's strange is what took place for us to walk 40 feet off the road into the woods, and to find this. And it was, it's just the weirdest thing. What started it all? Here, we're wanting to go somewhere
Starting point is 01:33:18 and not have any crazy things happening. And then we're scouting this area. And then this happens and we find these footprints. And those were my first footprints that I've ever seen. He's got pictures of one that he's found. But I'm looking at those ones that I put my foot in. And it was the craziest thing because people say they, they walk like on a tight rope.
Starting point is 01:33:39 I couldn't. that was almost, like I said, the third footprint, I wasn't going to be able to put my foot in it. We don't walk like that. Man, they were in perfect line with each other. Justin, I wish I would have measured it or something. All I can tell you is that they were far apart. And I don't know if it was running. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Could have been someone? Yeah, maybe. It would have been a big old boy with big long legs with a pair of boots on. we didn't see it. I don't know. Wow. I don't know, man. Sorry, I didn't stop too much there to let you have if you wanted to ask me anything.
Starting point is 01:34:18 No, you're good. Sorry, you're good. I just kind of rolled on. This is one of those things where this story needs to, needs to be told, and sometimes that's what happens. Oh, man. Wow. And there's just more, there's more than that. I've been standing on down at Stockton Lake, me and an old buddy mine, he's
Starting point is 01:34:39 his 70s. And him and I were standing there. We're doing work for the city of Greenville and we're standing down there and we leave our little hotel room. We go down to the water and we're down there and I drink a few beers and it's getting late at night. It's there. We're going to cut a few more beers
Starting point is 01:34:55 and we're going back crash out. But we want to see the water. He looks at me and he's, hey man, do one of them, do one of your alcohols. And I let off, usually if I get a few beers and I can really let one go, man, I let off this bar of alcohol. And I kid you not. the thing that answered me was a gorilla.
Starting point is 01:35:12 It did not answer me as another owl. This thing answered me. It just, and it just freaked out. It had a freak out over my owl call. And he looks at me and he goes, that was a freaking gorilla, man. Let's get out of here.
Starting point is 01:35:27 And then we finished our beer and we went back to our hotel room. Pretty funny. My goodness. But I didn't think anything of that then. You know what I mean? I was the farthest thing from my mind. I never even.
Starting point is 01:35:39 I don't know, man. I just think about all the stuff over the years and the things that I have heard. And I've heard many of your guests say some things, it just all fall along. You're like, hey, wait a minute. It's, man, it takes me a few minutes to just think about the entire scope of what you just shared. And there's a lot, a lot to it. And would you say, it sounds like. You have other stuff going on as well from...
Starting point is 01:36:12 No, no, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. You had a guy on there, up there by Bush Wildlife. I made a comment on there about hearing the noise. Listen, I know that now I know that people, other people up there have heard noises up there, okay? The noise I heard up there was in the middle of wintertime and it was in the teens, and we had been drawn for a specialty hunt, a bow hunt. All right, quick quiz for the hiring managers out there.
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Starting point is 01:38:26 And I was walking in between two of these lakes one time, and I'm going back to my stand. It's in the middle night, no flashlight like an idiot. There was snow on the ground, and it was cold. real cold and I got in between them two lakes and I'm approaching the creepiest area right before my stand that you could possibly walk through. I'm getting ready to go into that area and I'm thinking man that's a creepy spot. I hate this spot. I take one step and this thing lets off and screams. I listen, I almost peed myself standing there and I stood there for a long time and I, a very long time I stood there before I got up enough courage.
Starting point is 01:39:06 to go to my sand. And that in the evening I said to my buddies, you know what I heard. And my buddy goes, oh, that was the ice. And I'm thinking, you know what? There was big cracks in that ice.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Maybe the ice was shifting and screaming. Listen, I don't know if that's what it was. I had no idea. That's why I marked it off as. But there's all kinds of strange stuff up there, man. I got it. Yeah, I've been whistled at.
Starting point is 01:39:31 This is one of those episodes that gets me because I feel like we, could continue this because we are just getting into an area where there's a lot going on. And then maybe we can have some discussion as well. I don't know if you'd be, you'd feel. I've got a question for you. I've got a big question for you. I listen to a lot of your stuff.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Is there something that you're putting together as far as mineral features in areas, put things? Does that sound silly, man? No, I'm starting to look into. the correlation between magnetic anomalies and Bigfoot hotspots on the side. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, look up maps of magnetic anomalies.
Starting point is 01:40:17 The U.S. government has those. You can find out, and it will really open your eyes when you start looking at certain areas. And you're like, oh, that makes sense. That's a Bigfoot area. So, yeah, check that out. No, I will definitely do that. That's interesting. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:40:31 But, Matt, let's be in touch. I think we need to continue this conversation for sure. Absolutely. Because I've been making notes. I've got some pictures coming to you. I'm going to try to get my that to see my buddy. He says he hasn't looked at too much of what he videotaped that day. So if I can get that from it, I know I can.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Even a picture, I'll send the pictures. Yeah, anything you can send over. We definitely check it out. Yeah. But I think Matt, we are looking at a part two here. It's going to continue. Oh, man, that sounds great, man. Hopefully not too much where I hunt at, dang it.
Starting point is 01:41:14 But thank you so much for coming on and for sharing. Thank you. Your story so far is incredible. Just to say, I've never heard an account where someone has seen a young one. Like, that's just an incredible account. And I do really want to continue this. Feel free to set up a second time as you did the first one. and yeah we will definitely continue this conversation and have some discussion about what's gone on so far
Starting point is 01:41:42 hey that sounds good man i appreciate it very much and i'll be talking to me you're not your mind uh buddy i'll see you later thanks yes sir you have a good one we will be in touch all right okay we definitely will do you're gonna bye i'll see you later buddy you got it before we wrap this episode i want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners if you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about, and if you're
Starting point is 01:42:27 a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder, who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field or trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul, and if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report, if you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't then I want to talk to you even if it's anonymous you can reach me at bigfoot society at gmail.com the world needs to hear what you've been forced to
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