Bigfoot Society - Montana Bigfoot Stories (Archive Episode)

Episode Date: March 24, 2024

This Archive Episode was originally recorded on 2/17/23. It has been remastered for a more enjoyable listening experience. Get ready for a heart-pumping episode as we sit down with Ken Medsker, the Montana Bigfoot expert and researcher with the Montana Bigfoot International Research Group. Ken shares his incredible journey in Bigfoot research and uncovers the mystery surrounding Missing 411 cases in Montana that will leave you in shock. But that's not all, we also ask Ken the burning question on everyone's mind - have you ever seen the elusive pale crawler? Trust us, you won't want to miss Ken's answer. Tune in now for a fascinating journey into the world of Bigfoot!Resources:The Montana and Idaho Bigfoot Research Grouphttps://www.facebook.com/groups/673490389991612Get 50 percent off your tickets to Sasquatch Summer Fest in Oakridge, Oregon this July by using code "BIGFOOT SOCIETY" at https://www.sasquatchsummerfest.comI will be there hanging out and interviewing people's Bigfoot encounters so if you see me then please say hi!Share your Bigfoot encounter here: [e-mail]🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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and get extra episodes. All right, Bigfoot Society. Got the privilege of talking to a new friend tonight, Mr. Ken Medsker from the Montana Bigfoot International Research Group. How's it going, Ken? It's going real good. Like I was telling you, we're gearing up for this year's field research trips in Montana, Potsby, Colorado, Oregon, and Idaho again.

I love it. So a few quick words about Ken. He is a Bigfoot researcher out there. in Montana and he's got some really interesting stories. Ken, is there anything else that our listeners would need to know about you to set the stage before we start chatting? I've had, I've come to believe now encounters with Bigfoot when I was young in the mountains when I used to take off and go camping, things I'd see, structures, something large walking away by peal. So I've been around it for a long time and I really did get into it until my first sighting in 1978. I have to know what I saw,

especially when you know it's not a bear. It's just, it's intrigue me. It's become a quest for me. It hiked into an alpine lake out of DeBorcia, Montana, Crystal Lake, and I spent the day fishing. Coming out, I had seen bearscat and everything, so you've become cautious, especially when you're carrying trout. and I could hear a log being torn apart off this old logging road. So I stopped, drop, put the creole on my shoulders, I could drop it if I had to. What walked up on the road was Sonata Bear was walking upright. And it was, I'd estimate between 7 and a half to 8 and a half foot tall. It was covering his short black hair, long muscular arms, a barrel chest.

The legs were muscular. The hands appeared to have no hair on them, as did the feet. The face, how do you say? The head was rounded with small ears, and when it turned his head, you can see for crude eyebrows, the nose is so much flap. The mouth was a little bit open, but you can see the bottom to dog takes up. They went up a steep bed, in two steps. It was up a real steep bank.

And then started parading the road, of course, I figured it was time to get out of there, which I did. And then I stopped and I built a little rock thing. And I've always been taught you go out. you always return something. So I dropped by it. And I left. Now, this is a seven and a half mile hike in and out.

So you're talking 15 miles around trip. And I was the only one in there. And there's been reports of that area a lot. Sighting stuff in that area in the Hog and DeBorcia area. Tree knocks, visuals. I'd have a knock on the side of the house when I lived up there. All the night, you hear real quick wraps. So we knew they were out there.

You could smell them. Cutting fire, would you take a break? Also, and you hear real sharp tree knocks. And it wasn't the wind knocking trees. Getting in the mountains too much to be able to know that. Wow. Yeah. I had no idea.

Montana was so squatchy, to be honest. We have, I got reports from the Missouri Briggs, Cut Bank, Sydney, the big hole, the bear tooth, the Bob Marshall, the Pintler Sailway area, Bigfoot sightings. And there's not many groups in Montana that's going out there because there's no guarantee we're going to find anything. There's always that chance. There's always that chance that have an account of giving an example. We didn't know we had captured that juvenile. And that's been verified as an unknown bipedal creature.

It's not a bearer of human. Just prior to that, something large was smelling the window of the mortar home where the wife was sleeping. She woke up. She didn't wake me up. She got up, went out in the dining room. It's like because of the blinds roof, she went and laid back down. She didn't wake me up. But she got up and I got up and asked what was wrong.

She told me, she said, she heard it walk away. Heavy footsteps. So the next morning, I went out and measured from the flat of the ground to where she pointed on the window, it was nine and a half feet. She put a creature at 10 foot or better at the same time, that small one at six foot was standing by the Jeep. Listeners, if you want to check out this video, you just go to the Montana Bigfoot Research Group.com. Yeah. And it is on there for you to view.

But I'll definitely have that link in the show notes as well. I've watched it more than a few times myself. And I'm like, man, I don't know. I really don't know. Yeah, a little bit of the history of that area. Jeff, which is a co-founder, he's the one that actually got me to open up the Montana Bigfoot, international research group because his curiosity and now my primary online researchers out of Malaysia he worked for the Canadian Forest Service he sent me what he finds and we posted on

our Facebook site and they're up there what caught Jeff's eye was the foot friends in the snow that just wandered off on a main game trail and then his son was down by where we normally hour of base camp, plants a dog, and also the big rock was thrown into the water, and some bipedal walked away. And every time we go up, there's something happens. So I continue going to the area, because there is activity. You'll hear, it sounds like a screech out, but it's not a screech out. You'll hear coyotes, but they're not coyotes. You'll hear funny bird sounds. So these are the areas we return to, because eventually we're going to get that little thing on video camp. I put out, I'll have.

have 10 trail camps put out. I have two around the camp. We're deploying two drones this year, a large one and a small one. See what we can catch from the air. What kind of drones are you guys using? They're Vindatar. Drones, they're only good

for the day. At nighttime, my night fusion binoculars are, I can record that has SIM cards. I can record through them, but not at a distance. I'll give an example in a minute on that. My video cam which has voice recording, it records at night too.

But you're only limited by distance. Example, I was over in St. Mary's, and I had two photographs of something avoiding something black. It looks like your shoulder, avoiding the trail cam. My trail cams are sitting anywhere from six and a half to seven and a half foot off the ground. So it's not there. I've gotten deer, elk, moose, wolves on the trail cams already. the night we went out with my stepson,

glass and I had, it appeared to be a juvenile, looking at us through the trees. Wow. And I tried to get a recording when I dropped the binoculars, and put him back up as gone. A little later,

I was scanning a tree line. There was a large one standing in the watch. Just after that, me and Josh was standing there and the big log can fly in between the two of us from behind. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on.

Okay, here we go. You guys are watching the tree line when all of a sudden a huge log gets thrown at you? Yeah, coming from behind us. So there was more than one there. Oh, dude, they were sneaky. They snuck up behind you and they were going to take you out from behind. Yeah. So we decided it was probably prudent to lead.

Wow. He's kept to the motorhome in the house. Yeah. But I did the call to, who call. Okay. And I got coyotes in response, but weren't coyotes. Have you gotten interesting audio on recorded when you're out there? Are you always recording audio?

Yes, I have a, I also have a sonic listening device, which these headphones go to. Oh, sure. So I can pick up anything in the distance. And it does record, and I put it in on cassette, which is I transferred over to a flash drives, what I was looking for today. I probably have 21 recordings of different sounds. I've actually recorded myself. So when I do get those out, I'll send them to you.

Yeah, thank you. That would be awesome. Yeah. And like I said, they're here. Phillipsburg Drummere's cattle country. During the calving season, calves come up missing. It's not wolves taking it. They actually footprints leading away.

Whoa, really. So I would guess the ranchers are finding these footprints. Yeah. And they're like large, they're pretty much big foot type. Footprints you're saying. It's a 18 to 22 inches. Yeah, you know, I consider that. Oh, my goodness.

Yeah. Even during a ponding season for deer, cabin season for elk and moose, I'm sure Bigfoot takes the babies. This is an animal that's capable of killing a deer and elk. In the history of it in 1851 in Arkansas, two guys watched a Bigfoot chasing cattle. trying to grab it. And 1846

actually found 22-inch tracks in the snow. That's in Arkansas. Part of doing research for Bigfoot, you've got to find when the first are kind of recordings, not a considerable like you talk about the Native American, because it's there

in pitch graphs and in the legends. If you talk to the ponies in the southwest, the ward they had with them, the Navy is up on the West Coast, the ward they had with big foot and where there was a ton of the troves thrown, what you wanted to do. Now, the earliest account I've been able to find is 986 AD, and that's Leaparickson in Newfoundland.

He describes large, heavy, smelly creatures that were very aggressive. And then in 1793, Santico, I can't say it's a pronunciation, he was commissioned by the Spanish King to explore the West Coast of South America and North America. he wrote in his journals of large bipedal creatures. Wow. When Lewis and Clark was headed through the exploring the Louisiana Purchase, they were worn by Maddance, the Shoshone, the Blackfoot, about large bipherry men in the mountains that like to steal horses and eat them.

And it's in that journal somewhere, and I've been trying to find it. I had the statues at one time. There's a history of it, and something we can't ignore it. They've been run a lot longer than we have. And whether they come across a land bridge or they're related to giant pithicus, we don't know. Now, an expedition into Tibet, and a real high alpine lake, nobody goes into, they did eDNA, and it come back as 98% human. Now, what we have to understand, there's only 2% to 3% difference in our DNA to us and the giant primates, the gorillas, the chimpanzees, and the orangutans. Interesting.

There's a lot out there. And you're going to hear, say, you know, people want the attention. And my standing policy for my group, now, I don't want the attention. I want answers. What we learn helps you the people come to understand because the scientists ain't going to tell us. The government shouldn't hell ain't going to tell us. So it's up to us individual ones out there willing to take the time. And to make the connections with the other groups and hopefully your research,

helps out other people and their research helps out yours and just hopefully people keep connecting and play nice so that can happen. Spring is pretty much confirmed. I've got one research group in Colorado that's coming. I've got it's a Sasquatch Highway out of Oregon, Bruce. He's coming. And then in the fall, I returned to that area twice a year in the spring and in the fall. I've got another group coming out of Texas to do it.

It will be there for two weeks. coming to your research area. But we're also the ones out there doing it. We don't talk much about it. I will post on the domain or on my Facebook site, some of the stuff. We do come across. The first thing I want to know more about is in the name itself, international research groups.

So obviously you guys are researching on Montana, but what is it that makes it an international thing? I get reports from Wales, Germany, Scotland, the Philippines, Malaysia, Borneo, Thailand, Australia. You have to be international because I have members from all over the world. We actually have 23 countries, members in 23 countries. Fascinating. In the encounters, the Clip Eagle Speaker, Subfuss in the Blackfoot Indian Reservation,

talked about what him in his girlfriend saw, a bipedalian. creature walking. And then you go beyond that, and this is all on there. The one in Wales, it was July 18, 2021. A guy was digging a ditch, and he looked up and saw a large bipedal creature walking towards him. And when it saw him, it took off. And then the reports out of Malaysia and Borneo of the Fendeka, which is what they call the big foot down there. It's a smaller one. it's more oranges in color. So we do get these reports. Like I was telling you, I don't know when I'll get a message with somebody else.

This is what we've seen. And then what I do is immediately go online and I start researching. Let's say Wales, how many sightings have been in Wales? You'll be surprised. How many in Scotland? How many in England? You always do a follow up to make sure you're not getting biased. And everything I'm finding is back in what they're telling us.

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We have the definite proof. And this takes time. It's not something that I don't think people are. realize just how intense field research is. Absolutely. Because we have two groups during the day. I try to narrow it to one group at night because somebody gets lost to say, a lot harder to find them that night during the day, especially in Montana, because

this is rugged, rough country. That's the thing because, and it's not just Bigfoot. You have to be, you have extremely large predators besides Bigfoot up there. as well, right? Yes, we have wolves. We have mountain lions. We have black bears. We have grizzlies.

Oh, grizzlies. Wow. Yeah, and they did big big humpback grizzlies. And they're not friendly. We have to be aware at all times, just not big foot, the apex predators in the area. Coyotes, I don't worry about bobcasts or links. We do have those. Sure.

But it's the big, the primary ones, the mountain lines, your wolves, the bears. possibly Bigfoot. Do they take humans? Unknown question. Wow. Is there a history of Bigfoot sightings in Montana that you're aware of? I know you've looked into different history reports in different parts of the U.S. But have you found any how far things go back in Montana itself?

Oh, there is a report. It will be from Lewis and Clark. Okay. Written down all the native, the blackfein, the black. foot in their ledge and goes, they were, according to them, they were already here. And the Sioux talk about them, then get farther south into the southwest, you're funny, you know, the Zuni, all have a history. They actually have a dance.

It's a bigfoot dance. It's not the very dance. Yeah. Oh, wow. That is cool. That is cool. So when you're doing research, this is the whole thing is, you've got to look at everything. You've got to have an open mind.

You can't be a skeptic and say, oh, that didn't happen. We used to keep coming across the same thing over and over, but from different sources. There's something, there's a basis there you've got to find out. Why? They all saying, where, when, and why. Those are what you're trying to answer. Do you feel like you have adequate evidence to prove its existence in Montana? Are you still reaching for a better piece?

hopefully next year. I think we do. I do, but I want that conclusive piece. You know, it's better to be safe than sorry, as they say. And that's why it's just not there to go, because I'm now by myself, and I have the big, I have a big mortar on the class A and I told my Jeep behind. I can go out and spend weeks. As long as I got propane and water, I can be out there doing field research.

And it's just a matter of being there at the right time. Yeah. And the one area there's unusual things happen is the bear tooth range. People come up missing there and they don't know why. Are you talking about missing 4-1-1 stuff? Yeah. They know there's an aggressive big foot in those mountains that are actually killing people. Wow.

How is it that you have you heard reports or there's bad team that you know it's an aggressive big foot? Somebody's missing. They find them and it looked like the guy, the person. it's gone through meat tender. All the bones are crushed. Whoa. Necks broken. Oh, wow.

Skulls crushed in, ribs are crushed, legs are broken. Some have been found wrapped around a tree. Wow, wrapped around a tree. That's extremely intense. I don't know if you read, heard on that, the drug dealers, the sheriff knew about, they were going to do a bus. They are in your group? No, it's someone else.

Oh, this is a different, because I saw it in your group. That was incredible. Go on with yours. The 911 call the receipt. They could hear gunfire. And it kept the people saying, oh, monsterio.

Of course, the cops are going to respond. When they got there, it was all quiet. They found all this ammo had been shot. They found the bodies just tore apart. The backside of the trailer was completely ripped open. And this little girl come out and all she would say,

a monster. The monster. right you know eight canyons another one those gold prospectors why did they of course but if you're listening to what they said they shot at bigfoot killing one and wounding one big foot reprisal was they were going to get those guys now the report you referred to in bear tooth i'm guessing that kind of behavior isn't anything you would see from a grizzly is it almost more aggressive than you you would see from a bear.

Really? Yeah, it's more aggressive. Aggressily, if he takes it, he's either going to eat your bear yet. Okay. Like, you're not going to be there anymore at all. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Wow. And these are different. These are different. That's more reported attacks in the bear tooth by something unknown. And it's bears are rolled out, mountain lines are ruled out. How far back to these missing reports go for bear tooth? 1938. Really?

Yeah. And it's been happening all along. It's been happening all along. Oh, man. Wow. If people have never been in the bottom marsh up, the only way in there is by horseback or foot. I used to work for the outfitters as a camp cook during hunting season. Okay.

But I saw that day was not a bear. What did you see? I'm sitting there watching the slide just across the stream. And I watched a group of elk, herd of elk come out. They looked at cows. they turned around and took off back the way they had come what walked out on that trail was in the bear was walking up right laughed after across the clearing the slide there was two real loud tree knocks wow and that night when the federal game or named because i'd asked the outfitter about it and the outfielder told the game or and ken saw the big guy and the guy the game orin started laughing

Ken saw the big guy. That's what they said. Yeah. Oh, man. Then after that, it's, it's all bets are off. You must have been like, it's on. Yeah, it's on. Now that makes me.

Yeah. You know, like I was saying, it's just not the only kind of, I'll give you another example of why I know I've been around them. I used to run a winter trap line for Beaver and coyotes and that of a place off the Blackfoot. Back then they were logging. So they had the road plowed at an area. I set my base camp up. And then I'd snowshoe and never used to snowmobile. I had Alaska trails modified.

Sure. So I'd make my coyotes and I always used Conner Bears, Quick Hills. I don't believe in that I was suffering. I had to live to get supplies and come back now to start around my line, probably about a mile from the camp. One of the cowboys was tore up. There was a coyote hit and the trap, but nobody. Really?

Yeah, but you can see tracks leading away, but it was covered snow. So I continued to where I'd spend the night. Then my next day I'd come back along Gold Creek itself on my beaver sets. There were beaver traps totally destroyed, pulled out of the water. So something took the beaver. Yeah. And there again, tracks. And you're talking tracks 16, 17, 18 inches that were covered in snow.

You can definitely tell. Really? Yeah. Oh, man. So do you get scared? I think you do, but you become more cautious and alert to your surrounding areas. Oh, sure. I have a standing policy when any of my kids go with me.

Listen to the forest, the woods, the mountains. They're going to tell you a story. All right. And most of you don't understand this like pine squirrels. If they sound off in a distance, they have an alarm. Pay attention. Okay. Because if they start sounding off, it's coming towards you.

That means something's coming. And I've had bears. I've seen bears. Actually, the squirrels are just ahead of the bears. Is that an indicator? Yes. I was going to ask you earlier, the missing people reports in Beartooth, are those things you've just researched yourself? Or did you find those or were those in a certain area gathered together?

I knew one of the deputy sheriffs down in that area. I want to say, say, same. Yeah, okay. So you got the inside. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, to say to protect him, he knew I'm into the Bigfoot stuff and he got to talking to me. They get at least two, three, fours a year.

When they hear stuff, they're coming to you. Yeah, I'll get a phone call. Say, again, another guy's missing. Now, Chief Joseph, which is the pass out of the bitter run into Idaho, you swing over there into the big hole. And anybody that knows about the big hole, that's where the Nets first had really the first contact with the Calvary one, Chief Joseph. that was escaping from Idaho. They have a science of a bipedal creature quite often around that campground. Really?

And it's not a bear. So that's on my list this year to actually go in and set up a camp, my mortar home and everything and spend some time without trail cams and try some things. That'll make local news when that happens. Yeah. People in Montana are really reserved about talking with the experience. Okay, Unabom or Lincoln, Montana, or the Unibor, or the Unibor, bomber was found.

Ted Kissons. Oh, man. This episode is going to raise some red flags and algorithms. Let's party. Yeah. Anywhere, when the FBI was baked up the cabin, they watched a mountain line kill a deer. They know where they're going to get all that. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.

They talked to them to nowhere they're going to get out of that car. There has been reports to the locals, and this thing about people monitoring, they're so close mouth. Now, I do have a member that's going to meet me sometime this summer up at Lincoln. can to show me some of these areas, which I'm always happy to go to. I look at it as an adventure, but it's an adventure for knowledge, for understanding. What would it take for your quest to be done?

To finally verify what I saw was not a bear. Okay. I'm not going to say, like, guys joke around, have a sit down with me and have a beer. No, to be able to say, yes, it wasn't a bear. It was definitely a bipedal creature. will it take what kind of evidence would that take if I can find a thesis where I can get DNA footprints we take your DNA take your ground dirt yeah which I have all the I have all the equipment to do it is just finding the stuff to do it I'm going to try to get fingerprints this

year and I'm going to use a large beer can open the beer set out at night if it's on the ground I have the dusting powder for fingerprints okay it's finally to It proved just not to myself to others that, hey, these do exist. This is another thing our government's covering up. There's so many theories about Bigfoot, I have my own, and I'm sure it's going to conflict with others. But over the years, you develop a theory, what is it? I study the human evolution.

And you're surprised the primates did not evolve like humans, but yet they did evolve. He has big foot an evolutionary takeoff of the primates. A larger giant, chitticus, gorillas, orangutan, chimpanzees. Gotcha. If they're getting DNA and stuff that comes back, it's unknown primate, then there's something there. Right. The thing is to find a lab that won't shoot their mouth off to the government.

It's like, who can you trust that your evidence isn't going to magically end up missing and never get returned to you like so often is the case, right? I did. I sent in some DNA samples. Some EDNA. I never heard a word. Really? And that was two years ago.

Wow. So what did what's the results? They either means you found something or there's a lot of people in the labs that are not so organized. What if you had to put a pin down on a map of Montana, Hannah for the squatchiest area, what would you think? I think where I'm going again this year, Sakiba, because something always happens there. And that's the key is now it's being there at the right time, having enough people out there out in the field.

We're actually going to be putting out a satellite camp. A satellite cam. Yeah. Really? Tell me about that. Yeah, the one, a group from Washington, I'll be taking them into an area. It's about a mile, or maybe only half a mile from an alpine lake. I come across tree structures in that.

I'm going to Jeep in and tent, sleeping bags, cooking gear, everything, and they're going to spend a few nights in there. Now, they will be in contact with the base camp through the CVs, both the mortar home and the Jeep has CVs, and they will have affordable. Those in the field have two-way radios, one's in the base camp. And the guys have, I can hear what's going on if they're talking between each other. So I'm curious, is Bigfoot moving from the lakes through that draw up into the bar marshal over the top into the Vaugh Marshall? It's just one range on one side and the mission mountains on the other side.

It's a big area. How many hours do you think you've put in over the years for Bigfoot research? if you had to round it rounded up $1,200. Wow, that's awesome. That is amazing. I'm limited because of my health and my heart. Oh, sure.

I can't get out there like I used to when I was a kid. Okay. If I didn't have a bad heart, I'd be the one out there in a satellite camp by myself. But now I have others that do it. And it's hard to get people to come. They don't realize it's important. I have the people there that follow the rules. we do have rules for field research and we're real strict.

You follow these rules. Otherwise, they're removed because you get hurt out there. The closest hospital is 45 miles away. Oh, my goodness. That's the game over, dude. And there's no place to bring a helicopter in there. Oh, really? You can't even med vac anyone at least.

Really, you're done. Yeah. We had a saying in the ball marshal with the hunters. If your buddy dies, lame over a log. It's easier to put him on a horse, a pack horse. It's flat. Oh, my goodness. Wow.

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It's just really interesting stuff. Really not sure what this creature can and can do. It's pretty intense for sure. Yeah, see, we changed our flashlights. We don't use white. Okay. We use a high density black light. Oh, interesting.

Oh, my shen normally deer and that will have eye shine. Under these, there's no eye shine. Okay. You can see them and there is no eye shine. Gotcha. So does Bigfoot see that color spectrum? We don't know. Yeah.

Over the years, all those hours that you're out there, have you ever noticed anything else weird or strange? Just that you're like, it was Bigfoot, but I'm really not sure what's going on here. You mean trees driven upside down in the ground? Okay. That's cool. Yeah.

Do you run into that? Yes. Really? You don't find those very often. You're more up north, but you do have once in a while here. You'll find X's in a different configuration, blinds during waterholes along game trails of streams, all sorts of weird things.

I've run across fish traps. There in places there ain't no humans. and I see those. In the spring, the rainbow trout and the silver salmon spawn. In the fall, the Kokonese salmon in that spawn, the brown trout, the brookies. So those streams have got trout in them, fish, which is a food source that there is like. And I think Bigfoot does too. These fish traps are primitive.

And that, but they work. Expedition Bigfoot, they come across it in Washington. Didn't know what it was. So I was telling the wife, I'm not even talking about this. What does Bigfoot eat? Is it a carrion eater? We know it'll kill. If you look at the edible things, if you look at, like in Montana, baby fern, cattail, young catting, hookabaries, raspberries.

I'm sure they rate farmers' fields. There's a lot to eat out there. Then you look at taking deer, taking elk. even a moose, and they will kill a bear. So cubs, it comes across the cub, that's food for the big foot. So you're saying they will kill a bear? Yes. How do you know that?

I'm just, I'm genuinely curious. How can you come across a bear with a broken neck and there's no gunshot wound and there's nothing around? Okay. A smell in the air, smells like something dead and rotten and moldy. Wow. Is that something you've come upon yourself? A couple of times. A couple of times.

Really? Yeah. You've found a bear that has a snap neck. Yeah. Totally dead. And now is this like full size adult or what size? One was a full size adult. The other one was a cub.

The cub had one hind quarter missing. They've been torn off. And anybody's doubting me, I'll take a polygraph to any of this stuff because I'm serious about what I see. I've not talked about it until recently of what I've experienced out there. Really? I'm just really taken aback by that. That's incredible because I'm thinking another bear probably couldn't.

I'm trying to think of creatures that could break or you said break the neck of a bit. That's an intense. Ken. I know. I hunt bear. Yeah. I know how thick their neck are. Yeah.

That'd make me that I would be thinking for a while on that, man. I really can't think of anything other than Bigfoot. That could do something like that, dude. Or bear will eat will kill a cub. That's why the sow is so protective. of the cups. A cell can get separated from the cups get separated.

What happens if the Bigfoot grabs it? You're talking to an animal except 8,900 pounds or more. An animal 8.5 foot tall, extremely muscular. Can you imagine? I'm not sure if anyone has a story of this,

but seeing the fight between a grizzly and a big foot, my goodness, wouldn't that be something to go down in the ages? You know, the other thing I've noticed when I'm out, if there's no bears, generally that's where I start hearing the weird vocalizations and stuff. I think the bears get the hell out of there. Sure.

It's like they're finding out porpoises are killing great white sharks. Okay. They show up the great white sharks leave. It's all ducking. Yeah, right. Now, the great white sharks in apex predator. A bear's a black bearer is not as powerful as a grizzly. but if they target a small bear, what chance do they have?

What chance do we have? Absolutely. You know, you're on the food chain as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure you've heard different recordings of Bigfoot vocalizations. And you've mentioned already that you've heard almost mimicry different animals. Have you heard anything that, you know, a howl or anything where it's, okay, that's not like a coyote sound. That's something totally different. friend. Yeah, yeah. A whooping. Oh, you have heard whoops out there. Okay. Really?

They're generally followed by a couple of tree knocks. And you can distinguish a tree knock from Bigfoot, from a tree, a wind below in a tree. There's a distinct sound. Okay. It's real loud and clear. If you hear it, leave the area, like I said, in the structures I've come across, there's some, you see him turn around and get the hell out of there. Don't, do not go any further. but they're a warning. Stay out of that area. It's a warning, yeah. It's a warning.

I want to say it was my buddy Tate, Hieronymus, that almost he labels it like a power knock. I've heard that throwing around, but it's so sharp, it's so loud that you're just like, it could be nothing else. Yeah, you hear it. They could be two, three miles away.

There's no mistake when they do it. We cannot create that lot of a train knock or sale. ours are short and sharp but short there's you hear it through thick woods everything you'll hear that knock when they scream sometimes it sounds like a woman very interesting because yeah so you've heard that yourself where it's like a scream it like a woman scream oh man you stand up and look around oh do you have any of that recorded yes you do i'll get those recordings out I got to go through all my flash drives and find them and then I'll get them set to you. No pressure, but I would love to hear it.

That's awesome. Have you ever played like a baby cry sound? I'm trying that. Oh, you're going to try that this year. You've got to tell me how it goes. I will. It usually brings out the crazy. You got some wild stuff in that group.

Yeah. That's why. And we're a private group for a reason. Right. We, me and my moderators, we have one primary thing. It will be respectful. If you troll somebody, especially me, you ain't got a chance. You're gone.

Your history. I will not tolerate it. And we built a group of trust. Yeah, that's important. We can talk about experiences. Look at the guy the contractor at Border Patrol, what he saw. It takes a lot for these people to talk about these experiences. Don't troll.

Absolutely. Because trust me, I verify everything anybody's saying it's not that hard to do. It's just go to the area. You learn how to do research online for information. Like I posted that you notice, I don't post anything on there that I have not double-checked. It has to be more than one article. That's awesome. Because I'm online from 2, 3 o'clock in the morning.

I'm sitting here doing research. I have two really left field things I want to ask you about. that if you've ever heard anything like about this kind of thing in Montana it's really left field have you ever experienced any like orb stuff up there I haven't I know oh you have oh that night and you had that log thrown between us yeah just prior to that we were standing that I looked up just about five miles away I'd say quite a ways up in the sky I read the orb was dancing all over the sky it wasn't a helicopter and it wasn't an airplane Oh, it was like going diagonals and stuff?

He was doing this. Really? We disappeared. We watched it for 45 minutes. I tried to catch it on the camera and that it was too far away. Oh, wow. Now, I had, that's cool. Where I got the wolves on trail cam, I haven't figured how to piece the video together,

but I have, it looks like an orb coming up this straw, and it slowly floats across the trail cam. Wow. It comes back. and then comes back and then it's gone okay that's wild there's seven videos of it and that's awesome the night after we caught that juvenile i woke up something was chattering outside of the window of the mortar home on my ceiling i looked up and there was a white war dancing on the ceiling and it just went outside the motor home back and forth yeah i'm nuts right so look at that oh no

I don't know how I deal with that. You lay the way, what the hell? I got up. Yeah, I got up and fully charged dual batteries in a mortar room had gone completely dead. They were completely dead, 20 minutes, and they come back online, full charge. No way. I'm serious. Oh, that's crazy, Ken.

Wow. I don't know how you explain that. Yeah. You can't. You can't. I don't know. that's the thing. So the way I think about it is there's no right or wrong answers yet for the creature because we don't have one captured.

So I think it's, I think it is like an animal and ape a creature, but it's think of the animals around the world and all the weird stuff they can do. Who's to say that Bigfoot has like these crazy stuff that we have never even thought an animal can do? Like all bets are off. Interdimensional travel cloaking. I've never experienced it, but I'm not going to discount. Because I've never experienced. I only base everything I talk about, I base on my experience, is in the field or online researching. And people don't understand that.

I have all the time in the world to do this. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm 70. I got all the time in the world. All right. Number two. Left field. There's a creature in cryptozoology where it's labeled as like a pale crawler, humanoid.

weird thing. I don't know. If that doesn't ring any bells, don't worry about it. But Justin, the off chance. Okay. I've never experienced it personally. I'm not saying they're not out there. Yeah. Okay. Good example. I'd like to meet the farmer in Deer Lodge. He's got one of those on a trail camp. Who? There's a rancher. Had a Deer Lodge. His cattle has come up missing, so he put out a bunch of trail camps. He has something like that on one of the trail games. A farmer? This is Deer Lodge, Montana?

Uh-huh. Can you get me in touch with him? I'll try to, yeah. Okay. I don't meet him. I want to go where it was at. You got to. Yeah.

Dude, oh my goodness. The thing about research, field research, you have more questions than answers. Absolutely. And the more you go out to do it, the more questions you're going to have, I know. And answers.

But there's always that one moment when something may happen that you're not a believer, it can make you a believer. When I was young, I was four, I'd never jump out of an airplane. I finally did it. You did it. Yeah, when I was living in Hawaii, I spent time in Hawaii. I was there 14 years on the island of Hawaii. You hear about the Mennonis.

Yes. Tell me what a small footprint in the Amkeye's swamp, which is where the highest plateaued swamps in the world, It's actually at the base of the wettest place in the world at 485 inches of rain a year. Wow. What is that little footprint doing up there? The Menehounis are the ones that built fish pond. They call it the Menehouni ditch when the Hawaiians got there.

Kauai was the first islands the Hawaiian Polynesians landed on. There was already a ditch built, and they don't know who built it. Wow. It's perfectly angled for water flow and everything. It goes right through rocks at all. It's got a ton of an area. Nobody knows who built it. It's like our medicine wheel in Wyoming.

Nobody knows who built it. It was there when the Native Americans came into that area. What's the medicine wheel? If you're in the air, like the Aztec lines, you see it on the ground. If you're in the air, it's a great big wheel with spokes. The medicine wheel. It's a sacred place for the Native Americans. It was there when they got there.

That's wild, dude. You hear the people before, constant the people, are there mounds in montana eastern montana around the madden village just there's a few but not what's on the east coast in the intanity not like ohio yeah yeah the mounts there most of here i'm sure it's very burial okay and that you don't i respect the natives here sure and i don't believe in disturbing them absolutely not if i can get one to talk to me and once you really get snore they will open up. I'm hoping this year to sit down with the chief of the Blackfoot up here on out of Arleigh. Oh, wow. And sit down with him and the medicine man and talk to him. They know who I am. But it's

taken years to build if I'm that close. That's the thing people don't understand, I think, is how long it takes to create relationships like that. It will literally take years. And today's culture, doesn't get that in a world where you can just click, I want to be your friend. It's not like that. You have to spend years. Yeah. And then the other one, too, if you look at it during the pandemic, the reservation, the big one, the black one, east of the divide, it was shut down. It was closed.

You couldn't go in there. Oh, wow. Up here, because you have to drive through to get Flathead Lake. Now, Flathead Lake, Desmer reports of footprints, something stinky, walking. on the side of Flathead Lake. Really? Yeah. So they're here.

We don't hear a lot. There's more Bigfoot sightings in Montana than most people realize because we don't talk about it. That's our problem. We're not talking about it. Gotcha. Yeah. I got it. I got it.

Thank goodness for the Montana Bigfoot International Research Group. You guys are trying to get all the evidence together. That's awesome. And it takes time. I got to have it before I die. Come on now. You'll get it. Don't worry about it.

Yeah. I'm actually going to do gold prospecting to see if that will. Oh, wait. Oh, you're going to, you're going to prospect for gold. Hopefully you'll get some big foot evidence at the same time. Okay. Yeah.

Well, yeah, be careful. You got those stories of up in Canada where the prospectors and the just have your eyes behind you. Don't let anyone sneak up. A good sense of smell. There you go. There you go. that. But I really appreciate them having to come on board. Like I said, this is my first time I've actually talked to somebody about experiences and what we're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Ken, I appreciate

you coming on and chatting tonight. This has been a really fun chat. There's more going on in Montana than I realized. Do you mind taking a few minutes? If you have any closing thoughts, definitely say those, but remind people how they can keep up to date with the Montana Bigfoot international research group and how they can contact you and all that good stuff. Yeah, they can contact me through my email, Dogman 129 at MSN.com. It's on the domain, the WW, the Montana Bigfoot Research Group.com. My Facebook group is the Montana International Bigfoot Research Group. Bigfoot, yeah, international research.

But it's on Facebook. You can find it on there. We are private. If somebody wants to join, please answer the question. questions because you automatically declined and we got to set up that way. We're not a large group, but we're building. We're slowly building. And we have people that have experiences, they're talking about it.

We finally got them to talk about it. And even if you're in Montana, or you're coming through and want to spend some time on a field research, get a hold of me. Awesome. We'd welcome. We'll take you out there and be part of it. You might be there when we finally find that one thing we're looking forward to for what we're looking for.

I think how neat that would be. That would be very cool. Ken, it has been a delight chatting with you, and I'll definitely be probably touching base with you again in the future. And yeah, it would be a good time. But thanks so much for coming on, Ken. Thank you for having me. And if I come across something,

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