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Episode Date: January 12, 2025

Originally released at Episodes 376 and 378.Join us for an enthralling episode of Bigfoot Society where our guests Roman and Alfred recount their numerous and chilling encounters with Bigfoot. Roman shares his vivid experiences growing up around Stevens Creek, South Carolina, from an initial terrifying nighttime chase to ongoing unsettling encounters on his family property. Adding to the mystery, Roman describes strange sounds, hair-raising screams, and local geography, including granite deposits and Indian burial grounds. In the second part, Alfred recalls an eerie encounter during a hike at Mount Rainier in Washington in 1987. Stunned and confused, Alfred comes face-to-face with a massive creature, describing its striking features and the fear it instilled.🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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Roman reached out to me and wanted to share some interesting things that he's encountered over the years. How's it going tonight, Rome? Well, pretty good. Jim, how you doing? Oh, man. It's been a wild and cold time in Iowa. but I just, I get through every day so I can talk to someone about Bigfoot. Spend 20 below.

Yeah, that's pretty cold down here too. Yeah, we're at like 20 degrees and that's bad enough for me. Oh, man. Hey, I say we get right on into it and we'll see where the conversation leads, but I'm just going to let you go ahead and take the floor, Roman, and share what you've experienced over the years. Okay. I grew up in HV.O. County, South Carolina, and I lived there,

my whole life. The day I was born, I'm 51 years old now. I was born. I got two sisters. I was the youngest, two older sisters. And we was raised. Yeah, we sat down at his dinner table and ate dinner every night. His family went to church every Sunday.

I had my dad was, he was a hard worker. He taught me growing up and get you right and work hard. And that's just the way it was. I had the best mom and dad, a man, you know, every wish for. But we grew up. I grew up right there on Stevens Creek. When you think of a creek, you normally you think of something small, but Stevens Creek is more of a reservoir.

It backs in. It's a reservoir off the Savannah River. When I say creek, people run bass boats, punching boats in it. We've got boat houses. Our place, my dad's place, it's right there on Marktown Road, and it goes all the way back to Stevens Creek. And we got like a road that goes down on a big hill. When you get down the bottom of a hill, we've got like a big covered dock that's got a roof on

and take a left and go up to creek. And we've got a couple other dots right there on the water. We keep you pretty nice down there. A lot of people come there fishing and stuff. After my actual encounter, my signing started doing some research, listening to other people's stories, started listening to your show, and listen to other people who tell how their encounters went down.

And after that, I started thinking back all these things that had happened to me when I was younger, and that's where I, like, start out at. Let's go back to when I was 18, years old. Everything out here is pretty, you know, there's houses in far, in between, you know, across the street, maybe a couple of, like, smaller

subdivisions where every house had an acreage. But on our side of the road, it's mainly bigger acreage. So you'll have one person who lives here, it'd be 20, 30 acres. This person lives here, 20, 30 acres, so it's pretty spread out. And when you get down to the creek,

across the creek was mostly farmland and stuff like that. It still is that way on our side. They got across the street. Now it's got a couple of subdivisions and stuff like that. Anyway, I had met a girl over there, and we started dating. And by the time, for about a couple of years, and she ended up getting pregnant. I was 17 when she got pregnant.

And she ended up, we had the baby, and it was tough being that young old dad. And I turned 18. My son, I guess he was about six, seven months old. I had been over there at night. Then he was, I think, having it with trouble. sleeping. So I ended up falling asleep in her bed while we were putting him to sleep. I ended up waking up like 1 o'clock in the morning. And I'm like, darn, I got to go home. And I had walked over there that night. So when I left her house, you walk down this like long, big hill. You got a couple

of houses on the right left. And there's a shorter cut that you can take. And take a right and it goes down this big hill. And it's got real dark. And it's got a couple of graves in the woods, like for an 1800. So I'm thinking, man, I said, I ain't walking in that way. I said, I'd rather walk all the way to the Martinown Road and go the long way than walk down that much and spooky way. Anyway, I get down to Martin Town Road and I take a right and I'm walking up toward my own parents' house and I hear something off in the woods. And back then I was like an avic deer hunter. I lived for her. I love the deer hunt. And I'm thinking, man, I bet that's a deer coming this way. So I squat down in the road, just trying to lay low thinking the deer might come up to the road and then walk on out.

As I'm sitting there, all of a sudden, I just heard this thing started coming at me, just, I mean, your limbs ripping off trees, limbs snapping and breaking. And I stood up and I'm like, oh, that's a bear. So I just took off running a fast as I can run. And this thing came up. Instead of coming up to a road, there's like a ditch line, like the power line that runs down the side of the road. and you know how those things are this thing was just nothing but like blackberry vines and briar bushes and this thing's just plowing through it. I'm running on the highway

up on the hill and it's down in that ditch just running just through the briars and I get all in my parents' driveway which is as fast as I've ever run in my life and I stop just for a second and I hear it just still a real deep hush it's breathing so I take back off and run up about a hundred

after I get my parents got some big brick interest gates on soon as you get there the dryway. There's about a hundred of more yards up to the house from there. So I took back off again and opened the screen door. I was about trying to shut myself in between the screen door and a regular door and beating on the door. They finally came to let me in. I'm like, oh, a bear chasing the road today. Anyway, so now that they're knowing what I know now, I don't think that was a bear because I'm listening to the stories that bear don't normally

just go and just start snatching limbs down off trees and I don't think they do anyway. But as much records that thing was making. I could turn back and look when I was running, but I figured if I turned my head while I was trying to run, it would slow me down. I was trying to just make sure I had the only thing I wanted to do is make sure I was running as fast I could run. But anyway, we're going forward on up to the actual siding.

Anyway, like I said, each property is divided 20, 30 acres, and then Nick's property, every 20, 30 acres. And then you had my neighbor to our right-hand side. He lived about halfway up on the right, and then his sister lived all the way at the back. She had a trailer about there on the top of the hill right the way it is. It's pretty flat until you get back to where the creek is. And once you get toward the creek, about 100 yards where you get the creek, it's a big hill that goes downhill.

And she lived right there at the top of the hill on the right hand side, you know, on their property. And her name was Betsy. She was a good old, just good lady. But a tough old lady, too, man. And anyway, she don't come up to me. She's come up to me a couple times. And she said, Roman, there's a, there's a big foot down there. And I just blew it off.

I thought she was a little crazy on that one. And then a few months later, she came back to me. She said, Roman, she had a 357 vacuum in her hand. She said, Roman, there's a big foot down there. She said, I was sleeping last night. And I woke up. She said, it's something walked by my window. And she said, my window is eight feet off the ground.

She said, I'm going to go down there. And she said, I'm going to go there. And she said, I'm going to go there. and shoot that thing. I said, basically, I said, there ain't, I said, there ain't no big foot down there, you know, and I'd never, ever, not one single time, this whole time with everything going on, never thought Bigfoot, never. I believe, I've always believed in Bigfoot, but I didn't think there were any Bigfoot around here. I thought they were all way off somewhere in California, somewhere like that, and like the National Force and the Big National Force and stuff like that.

But anyway, so it's going to the day I had my side. And then on the creek, I spent a lot of time down there. It's like my salvation there. It's so beautiful and quiet. That's where I go to think. You know, when I got things in my mind. And also I have a little outcrop down there. It's got a lot of minerals and a little bit of copper and a little bit of gold in it.

So I get in there and I like get there and dig and get my rocks. And there's gemstones. It's organic. So I get find all kinds of crystals and stuff in the rocks. So that's just fun for me, getting in there and just be in the woods. And there's times I've gone down there at 1 o'clock in the morning at the moment. And this is like deep woods. It's swampy down there.

So even 1 o'clock in the morning, I get there by myself. No problem. I wouldn't scared. I always hear things when things walking in and making these weird noises, but never thought one single time it was a big foot or anything like that. One afternoon, I'm coming up. I've been there in my hole digging. and starting to get, it's not dark yet, it's starting to get dark.

So I have my buckets and I come on up the hill. When I get about three quarters away up the hill, I stop and I'm taking like a little rest because I'm a bucket of rocks are heavy so I can only get so many yards and then I'd set it down and take a break and get some many yards. But the last time I sat it down, I'm sitting there for a second and I started smelling. It smelled like a skunk. I'm sitting there looking around and saying, man, here's a skunk right here. I said, man, it's got to be like right here.

It smelled like it was like under my feet. That's how strong it was. I'm looking around and about the time, about this time I heard, wow, you know, just damn loud holler. I didn't even have to look yet. And it was the first thing to pot in my head was the skunk smell. Detsy's saying this was big foot down there. And I don't know.

It's somewhere during my lifetime is I lost fear. I just, I just don't have it. But I think when I heard that things holler for the first time, I actually just had almost like a smiling smirk on my face to me and thinking, you got it, kid, me. It was, don't get me wrong. It was, I had the initial shot in the shock of it because it was, because I'm, I got something right here hollering. It ain't supposed to, it's not, just don't think you'd ever run in anything like that in your life. And it's sitting there, it's behind, it's behind this holly tree, real thick holly tree.

And it's just, I mean, you can see it's just waving its arms and it's, and it's just sitting there to stay. just screaming and screaming at me. And I'm thinking somebody is missing with me, you know. But the only thing of that, I don't really hang out to anybody. I'm real, you know, I have a few friends. I don't really hang out that many people. Most people that I hang out with and know me, you know, wouldn't do anything anything like that.

Unless everybody knows normally, I always got like a pistol on me, you know. So, I mean, that'd be dangerous to play a prank like that. I'm still thinking possibility. It's sitting there yelling. And so I figured I'm going to say something funny or stupid as stupid as somebody messing with me. They're going to laugh. So I said, big foot.

I said, I ain't got no problem with you. I said, I know there's 22 magnum I got right here in my waist probably wouldn't even in the state of you. I said, just to let you know. I said, if you come running at me, I said, I'm going to shift you right in the nuts. And they didn't laugh. And nobody laughed. It just, as a matter of fact, it dropped down on all fours, and it took all about 40 more yards

up behind this cedar tree. And that thing, I come like, when it dropped in and took off, I've never seen anything in my life as fast as that thing was. I said, no, right then I knew it was definitely not, nobody playing with me. So he got over there behind a cedar tree and it's sitting there. And I could see, I can never really get like a good look at its face or anything because it's always behind a bush. But I could see it, but just never in detail at one time because of the bushes that was staying behind. But it was sitting there in and started screaming and yelling like that. I look at it and I point toward my truck.

I said, I'm going to my truck. My truck was at the top of the hill and there's like a little circle that you come in that goes up and kind of circle. And I had that point you facing out. It's sitting there and it's steady yelling and raising hell and waving and just throwing his arms and all over the darn place. And shaking a tree that it's standing behind. So I go open my truck door and I shut my door and I don't get I don't crank it up and go to leave me or anything. Like I said, I wouldn't scared. I was just in shock.

And so I'm just sitting there just looking out the window, just facing the hand on stairwell just kind of take in what was going on. After I got in my truck, it shut up. They didn't say I didn't hear nothing else. So I'm sitting there. I sat there about 10 minutes and I'm just thinking about it. And all of a sudden, the whole ass in my truck just, just. It felt like it dropped down about 18 inches and just bounced back up. And I looked in my ribby mirror and I didn't see anything.

And I rolled my window down and looked around into the back of the truck. I didn't see anything. But what got me was my truck was a Chevrolet, it was a Chevro Max 3,500. And I know I already had a thousand pounds of walks out of it. So for something to be able to push my truck down 8, 10 inches, that thing would have to weigh 1,000 pounds got me.

It was just three people could have jumped on back in that truck and not made it squat down two inches. So after it did that, I cranked my truck on up and went ahead

and pulled on out of there. But after that encounter, I got to thinking about all these years that everything, a whole bunch of things started making sense

to me after that. You knew the crap I went through for three or four years. I lived in a cabin right there on the top of the hill and when my encounter happened my house had already burned down my house burned down eight years ago my house had been burned down for a while when my counter actual encounter happened but while i was living there man i'm talking about this it had to be in these

softwashes that they about drove me insane but i'm thinking the whole time before my encounter that those were like people messing around in my woods. So I'd be out there. I'm talking about, and I hear these owl calls. I'm thinking there's people making owl calls. And I mean, you can hear people like walking in the woods, you know, and they're doing these alcohols and stuff.

And I'm thinking there's people are trespassing on my place. So night after night, I'm out there. I mean, by this time, I got, you know, pissed off. And I'm going to, I just wanted to catch one of these people. All I want to do was just catch one of them. So I wanted to find out why they're on my property. So night after night, I get out there, my I'd be dressing in black and, man, all kind of stuff.

And I'd hear them coming up, walking through the woods, and I'd get down there, you know, and lay down in the leaves, and being for hours and hours. And they always, I could never figure out how they always knew where I was. I think there's no way they know I'm out here. There's no way. And they were just like, they were always one step ahead of you. And, I mean, for gears,

You wouldn't believe the time. I mean, it literally drove me crazy trying to catch these people. And one night I had a friend of mine come over and he was going to help me. I said, man, we got to catch these folks. So late that night, I had an old flatbed truck out there at top of the hill. And me and him went late under that truck. And I ended up falling asleep. Like 1 o'clock in the morning or so, he nudges me and he points.

I look up out of the tractor sitting on a trailer right there. And I look then you see the silhouette. People look like two people. standing there. You couldn't really see them at all because it was so dark out of there. And you can see your hand in front of your face, but you look towards skyline. You can see them like standing there next to each other, moving around, walking around right there. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls. So this is the little pink pill everyone's been talking about.

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It was like an eight-shot pistol grip, remedying. And I think he had one of my other shotgun, a pump shotgun. And I didn't want to make you that much noise. I just wanted to get out of the run up. I was going to bust one in the head with the putter the shotgun. I just wanted to get one of them. So we jump out here, he racks, the shotgun, and these things take off. And at the time, I thought it was people.

And I couldn't even believe how fast they took off. And then there's a run around that loop I was talking about where I was parted at when my counter happened. And there's a goalie on the other side of the driveway. It goes straight down like a four foot drop, and then it drops on down to about 12 feet. And we had had an ice storm like a year before that. So this goli was full of all these tree tops and limbs that had broke off from ice storm. And man, these two cats just took off just barreling down through the, you can hear

like them breaking limbs running through the tree limbs. I'm thinking, man, we must have really scared the heck out of them, dudes. They're practically killed herself getting away from us. I'm thinking, but it was always funny to me how fast and how they were able to just to run like that in the picks flat dark and then run down and run through them tree limbs like that. I thought, I mean, they practically killed herself getting away from us. Now that I think, about it probably wouldn't I'm just glad my buddy did it right now because if I'd ran it that thing and hit it in the head I might have had kind of a surprise after my camera came on her happened me and my girlfriend went in there we was camping there at the creek

for a week I think we can stay there and spend some time my mom my mom she passed away a year ago and my mom she was there she was everything to me I loved her morning thing this world we were real close. I think that's really the only thing I ever, I really did fear was losing like somebody you love or like my mother. After she died,

my dad, he's still around. He's 86 years old. I've had to face the fact that that's going to happen. Right before she died, we was down there camping out of the creek and there was some touring the creek and going to during all spending time of my mom.

Anyway, one night, we was walking back up the hills and you can hear something walking in the woods out beside us and it sounded like it was bipedal to you, but it was screaming. It sounded just like a woman's scream. Like she was a woman being just murdered is what it sounded like.

So I'm thinking maybe a mountain lion, even though I had already seen the Bigfoot, I didn't know Bigfoot made screams like that before that. But thinking about it now, this thing was breaking limbs and all kind of stuff. Cougar wouldn't do anything like that. And we don't really had that many cougar around. here.

But Tigger are pretty stealthy animals, I believe. They wouldn't be just breaking limbs and walking that loud in the woods. But it followed us all up with the hill. And then after you get to the top of the hill, go up a little bit further. And my uncle, he lives right in the middle. And we got a guard. He's got his big garden. And across from that, we got another big garden right there.

It had to be plant every year. And it always stayed back on the tree line. You swear you couldn't see it. And it would sit there just scream, bloody murder. and you got in the house and went to bed and all night that thing was walking around

and around the house and sit there screaming like that half the night and this went on for a couple weeks till the point where we actually quit staying at the creek

we went there and started staying at my mother's house and my mom would come wait me up in the middle of the night and be like Roman she said that thing that cougar or cat

or wherever that thing is she's out there in the front yard under my window screaming and I got up man, I think she's out there just raising hell. And I went and I was looking. I'd get the flashlight and I look, but it would always be just right inside the trees.

I could never, I could never see it. So I went and backed up, we got a bunch of security cameras. So I backed up the security cameras. And I'm looking for maybe a cat or something on there, but at the time. But I remember a couple, there were a couple, I think places on the tape where you can see like a big, like a dark shadow or something back behind the tree. But I was thinking it sounded like more like. a cougar because I didn't like I said after listening to like your show and listening to other people's subscriptions talking about it. It sounded like a woman screaming. Now I realize I was probably

that big foot there too. And of course, noise is being walking around and probably had to be that south watch. But after my mom passed, I quit going in there for a little bit. In the last couple months, I've started going back down to the creek back to my hole and I started back digging again about two months ago. It's hard for me to get down there for a while and get to my mom's house and just even see my dad just because of memories. But actually, I think it's still down there

because the last couple times I went in there digging, about the time it starts getting dark, you start hearing the alcohols and they start going off. And you can tell them there for them. I used to turkey hunt with Jackie Bledsoe. He was the four-time world champion turkey caller. And one of the things you do in a turkey calling contest is an owl call.

But I was like, they're real girth, low girthy. That's what they sound like. I'm thinking, even when I was out there in the woods, trying to catch these people, I was like, man, that's the worst alcohol I've ever heard. Them big bucks, but I think I am like absolutely insane. They were probably selling tickets still to come watch me out there crawling around out there like an idiot. That's what I feel like now that I know what I know. But that's most of it.

You got anything you want to ask me about that? Roman, definitely. I was just letting you go, man. that's some incredible things that you have experienced over the years. You shared a lot of really personal things, and I want to thank you for being open enough to share some really personal things besides the Bigfoot interactions. I was thinking about the owl calls. So it sounds like what tipped you off is that the owl call itself was just so ridiculous sounding,

not that it was like really loud. Yeah, you can tell. Yeah, it would be real bad. went out. I always thought it was a person. I thought there were people on my place doing these alcohols, let them, they worry, you know, I can never catch them. But now I know that it was probably not a, they probably weren't people. Looking back now, I can, one thing, I'm pretty good in the woods. I can walk very quiet. I used to, when I used to hunt, I used to hunt most of the time. I was stalking. I could walk like so many feet stop. And I couldn't figure out by the likes me.

I can never see you what it was, making all these, walking through the woods, making all these calls. And like I said, now it's probably because it wouldn't people. So I feel like I feel like I'm an idiot now knowing what I know now after my encounter and knowing that they do alcohols and stuff like that. Oh, absolutely. Hindsight is 2020 for sure. What would you say is the most recent interaction that you would attribute to Bigfoot? I would say about two weeks ago when I got down, I was down there digging.

And I'm sitting there when I'm in my hole, I'm like I'll have a hammer and a chisel because, you know, it's a rock outcrop. And I'm sitting there hammering and chisle away. And then I start, by the time it starts getting dark, you start hearing these alcohols, there's a, where our place is, there's an island that's right across from our place and the creek goes on both sides of it. And this island's probably about a size of about one and a half football fields. And it's got just huge trees and just real thick, even during the wintertime, it's thick you can't even see in there. and that's where a lot of some of the calls are coming from oh really yeah and I got my binoculars and I was

looking trying to look through there a couple and I saw a couple things in there when I was looking through my binoculars that kind of leads me to think that it's a perfect place nobody ever goes on his island nobody ever goes on his island what kind of things did you notice through the binocular I was looking through my binoculars and first thing one thing I always one thing I one thing I One of my hobbies was always just like looking to just see how far I can look through into the woods. You can sit there and you focus in on your, with your binoculars, you want to find a gap in the trees. And then you want to try to just take your mind away from everything else around. And you want to try to focus on that one spot going to go into the, you know what I'm talking about.

Because in order to focus in on behind it, you have to get out of focus with the main picture to be able to look deeper and deeper. But I saw something. It looked like maybe a head sticking out from my heart. of the tree, but I said, it could just be a limb or bush sticking out the side of the tree also. So I sit here and I just sit there and watch it and watch it. And then it moved. It just seemed to go in toward a tree. I saw, huh?

So that's one thing I look for. And then after it moved, I started looking down, I went over to the next tree and then I saw it at the next tree right beside it. Okay. And then I sat there and watched it for a while and then it didn't move. And I turned and looked to the right. And then I swing back just to see if it would move. I looked away. And then when I had to look back at it, it wasn't there anymore.

And then I looked down and I saw it down toward the lower at the bottom in the tree. So there was definitely some movement going on in there. I can't say yet. It was a soft squads, but I think it is. Very interesting. You mentioned Betsy is Betsy still alive? Yes, she's still alive. She moved after that.

Yeah, she moved. And she was down there all the time. She was, and she was, for her to come to me and just tell me something like that. She seemed pretty rattled about it. She was pretty upset about it. Betsy's got stories. Yeah. No question about it.

Yeah, I bet she does. I bet she does. I can get older. As a matter of fact, I had talked to her sister-in-law, ex-sister-in-law, the other day, and she had given you Betsy's number because I'd never talked to Betsy after I had to run in with it. So I wanted to call Betsy and tell her, I said, you know what? I ran in that thing, jumped up to hills.

So I've been really meaning the, I just, I worked so much. I work all the time like six, seven days a week. Feel free to pass on my info if you ever get to talk to her. I would love to chat with it. I love to know a little bit more myself. Now, I think if I tell her of that, she's probably open up a little bit more after I tell her. I had to sing it too.

You know how people are all that? I didn't tell too many people about this. First thing, I walked in my dad's house and I wasn't, like I said, I lost my fear factor a long time again. You know, in order for you to be afraid or something, you have to, like, I don't fear dad. I know what's going to happen. And when's your time, it's your time.

So, and I had a really bad rake, like years and years ago. So I was in a, my brand new, L-2-50. I was going up Martin Taylor. I had been mud-blocking in my jeep. I was doing about 85 mile per hour. And I was my girlfriend at the time. I was talking to her. She was mad at me.

She kept him hanging up on me. So I was sitting there messing my phone, and I went off the shoulder road. And I hit a concrete covert. head-on concrete covert. I went in every end, over 100. 125 yards down in his embankment. I hit eight trees. The truck was, I mean, nothing left of the truck.

The roof is so flat to stand on, it was smashed down through the up seat. I mean, thonged, everything in that truck was being destroyed. And I was standing there on the hood of that truck when it stopped without a scratch on me and thinking what does happen? Wow. You're a lucky guy. A record driver next day.

He was on his hands and knees at my son, sir, going, you got some kind of purpose. You got some kind of purpose. He said, I've been driving a record for each other 20 years. but your trucks are top to end as much of story vehicles I've ever seen in my life and said, you ain't got a stretch on you. I mean, it was definitely some divine intervention right now. Yeah, I shouldn't even be alive.

I should have been hammered me. But something, man, I don't, for some, whatever reason it would save my life? That's wild, Roman. People were bringing me, I had people bringing me parts of my truck and had me autographed. Oh, man.

Yeah. Hey, man, would you autograph this for me? I found this tennis ball with interreg. He had me of silent tennis balls. any part of my truck they could find laying in the digs in there. That is so weird. Yeah, it's crazy.

Wow. Makes you think about each day, for sure. Yeah, definitely. But that just made me realize that when it's your time, it's your time. And right at the end, it went in my time. Absolutely. My thoughts coming out of hill and Bigfoot went to wherever and kill me.

But it would have been by time. I went out with my boots on. That's been there and true. That's exactly right. The area you were talking about where you dig for rocks, Do you guys have granite in that area? Yeah, we have a whole lot of granite. Really?

Yeah, a lot of granite. A lot of quartz, see, there's several gold mines up the road. You got the dorm mine, which was in McCormick. Back in 1800s produced a pretty good bit of gold. I think it was a couple other mines around there. And that outcrop I got, that's happened to just be looking into goalie one day, and I've seen a broad formation opening in the clay. I started digging, and, man, it was just like orange and green and blue.

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Talk to your doctor or pharmacist today, sponsored by GSK. There's a few people I've talked to, I don't even think, on record, where they've mentioned they have hypothesis that massive amount of granite could be related to Bigfoot type things. And I think it might even come up in some missing 411 stuff too, but just wanted to ask you about that. That's very interesting. Let me tell you, I have, yeah, there's a granite is what are the main rocks we have here.

When you drew your wells and stuff like here, you have to drift through granite. You get your order. I tell you what, our place out there on the creek, this guy Indian, there's Indian graves. And let me tell you,

I've had some serious, anybody's going to run into it because it was going to be me because I've had some serious encounters with some spirits. And one time me and my wife, we had like a spirit in our house, and she, they clawed her. It clawed her all up right there when I just.

You mean you saw, really? Oh, dear. I sat there and watch it. I was trying to grab her and get older and protect her. And from it, it was clover. All they crossed her back, everything. I couldn't even believe it.

But we had a guy who stayed there in our place that helped my dad. And he stayed in the camper on the creek. His name was David. And my dad, he owns a bunch of properties there all over the place and has rental properties. So he helped my dad. He was like his handyman. And he stayed on the camper. And my dad provided him a little place to stay down there.

And he liked to drink a lot. And one night, he drank. he drank a little too much and I guess he had maybe falling in the creek and he drowned in the creek and anyway years later

me and my girl I was taking that at the time we were upstairs I had a big sliding glass door going out onto a balcony out there at my house and I looked out of the glass and I said man there's David

I said he's standing next like I could see him and some other guy with a long beard he was real white face and David that's skin green and she said yeah she said he's waving at you're right now. And by the time he, she said that, he was throwing his hand up waving at me.

I said, Dern, you can see him too? She said, yeah. But, you know, I'm playing his day. He's been dead for 15 years and he's sitting there waving at me. You see, saw it? No, she said, waving at you. I used to see ghosts in there, all kinds of spirits all the time down there. You said that you're in pretty close proximity to some burial grounds? Yeah, there's an Indian barrel ground on my dad's place. I got an area collection like you wouldn't leave. I got Dickless beads

Yeah Yeah I got All kind of stuff You name it I got it It was How close to the

The houses Are the Burial grounds No I'd say Within Maybe 80 hundred yards Oh my goodness Dude

Wow Yeah Yeah Yeah So it used to be The main Campus right there Or our place

If you look at them Outward This would have been 7,000 Years ago These Indians Oh, there was a main, there was like an encampment type deal. What's that?

There was like a main, like a village type deal you're saying? Yeah, up on the flag. And it's, you had to creek down, like, said the camps would have been up there on the top of the hills. Sure. Any and several would put their camps on the slopes, always on the flats. That's where we find most of the artifacts. So you're definitely in the thick of something there. You've got so much stuff going on in that one area that you're at.

And I'm not surprised after finding out that. I wanted to talk a little bit about so that the night when you saw the creature and you yelled at it and then it ran away on all fours. Yeah, it didn't run all the way. It just went up about 30 yards and I got behind a other tree. He started yelling some more. Yeah. So can you describe like what you noticed from the way it was yelling? Was it just a sound or language?

or it was more just yelling and it wasn't and it wasn't all ferocious like a lot of people say it was it just it's just raised like it was pissed off i got to think so maybe it got sprayed by the skunk it's just I mean it smelled that's the way it was they act like it was just like frustrated you know because it smelled just like a skunk I'm talking about people always try to describe how would it smell how the odor was but this thing smelled if you ever rode by a dead skunk on the road on the highway no different than that. It was identical to the smell of a dead skunk going on road.

Did you notice, or can you remember any weird details about what you saw? Yeah, it was like a real dark, it was like a chocolate, it looked like more like a chocolate cover colored, a dark, real dark brown and black, maybe mixed a little bit or could have had mud on it on it, but it was real dark. And it had definitely had some long arms because that's one thing you can see I'm just flapping and flying away. And I can never really tell. I can never really get a good height,

guess on it because the way the terrain is, all the hills, you got dupes and all kind of stuff. So where I was standing, I was in the road coming up. So you got like a little three foot bank right there. And then it was like over the hump and behind the holly tree right there going,

it slopes back down to the right. When you get over that little hump, and it was behind that big holly tree right there. And then after I said that to it, I didn't know if it understood me or what about me shooting it in the plane and the word count. But it's getting a little bit more distance between the, but it ran over behind that Caesar tree then. But he was sitting there and just grabbed, I had grabbed a hold of it, you know, and it was like, I guess where you stood there were both hands and grabbed a hold of a limb on each side,

just sitting there and just shaking the tree. And when it went to other direction and started, that really definitely took any fear. And the way he was yelling, too, and it wasn't like real fear. I guess this could have been like maybe a juvenile. know, maybe. Because it didn't have the, it didn't sound like it had the lung capacity, like some of the other descriptions, some of the other people say here. It sounded like it didn't have that.

I didn't feel like when it yelled at me. I think one of, I would have to say, the part that really got me was that it ended up following you up to your truck. Oh, yeah. Now, that's, that's surprised. That really did surprise me. And it hadn't been that creature because there's nothing else that could have, you know, 3,500 Durhamax.

It's got a pretty stout suspension on it. Absolutely. And like I said, I already had a thousand pounds of rocks in the back of it. So it was already compressed pretty good before it jumped on the back of it. Before it to drop down that far, that's what really got my attention right there. I said, man, that thing is bigger than I thought it was. It had to be heavy. Oh, yeah.

I don't think it jumped on a truck. I think it, because it went down so fast and came back up so quick, if it would have jumped on it, it would have been went down and then hesitated it came up. I think what it did this week came up and just put his hands on the back of my tailgate, because I had a tool body on the body on the back of it. Okay. So it's pretty stout tailgate. There ain't no, it's hard steel, solid steel.

So I think he just put his hands on the back of the gate and it shoved down on it. And that's what it felt like with me. Thinking over the years when it sounds like there's been many times when you've heard things in the woods, have there ever been times where there was a sound you heard? And it just, it confused you. And you're like, I, this sound shouldn't be here right now. Yeah, many times. We'd be out there and, you know, I heard this thing one night making this real weird kind of,

I don't even know if I can describe it. It was kind of kind of, I'm like, what in the world is that? And it would always do that. It would be in that ditch down there making that noise. And it was real loud, but it was, I've never heard anything making it noise sound like that. I lived out there and I sat countless nights. I love to sit outside at night and just listen to the crickets and the sounds of nature. Absolutely.

And so my whole life has been sitting outside listening. When I hear noises like that, I've never heard before. But at a time, I went thinking Bigfoot. Yeah, exactly. Once you get aware that could be an issue in your area, your outlook kind of changes. Have there ever been any sightings of, I don't know if you've ever heard a dog man before? Like a creature that kind of has a canine look to it and it's on two legs? No.

I know they probably exist, but I hadn't ever seen one of those. By the stories I've heard, I hope I don't. Well, that's, I'm going to say, count yourself lucky that they're not in the picture that you know of for sure. That's good. Yeah, that I know of. Yeah. Yeah. Back then, I was always packing some serious, but guns.

I always had two or three guns on me. Big shotguns. That was my wife, I had a 300 wind mag. I'd always keep on me when I was down there. That's an elephant rifle there. That's a big gun. I killed my first deer with that gun when I was like 11 years old. And that's a, that's bigger than a little bit bigger than this mag.

And I always felt, say, I've been, I brought, I was, there with guns. There was nothing for me when I was like 10 or 11 years old. That's how much times it changed with kids today. And back when I was kids, I could walk out. So I was 38 stud days when I was 10 or 11 years old. Tell my parents, I was in target practice. and they didn't think nothing about it. These days, man,

the kid walks out, the 10-year-old walks out with the gun. You better tackle us ass. Yeah, it's a little bit different, unfortunately. I'm guessing it was that back in the probably 80s or 90s or? Yeah, I was born in 72, so that'd been, yeah, about early 80s.

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's a whole different time for sure. Oh, yeah, definitely. Roman, you got some weird stuff going on in your area, man. And I don't think it's going to, I don't think it's letting up either, to be honest. No, I'll tell you what.

I talked to some other people, too, and they said they got some stuff going on in their place, too. They own a lot of several hundred acres, and they said they found some, like, little TPs and stuff like that under the place. Really? And there's a lot of, there's a whole lot of still. There's a lot of national forest and, like, bike. They turned them into bike trails now. So it used to be like game management hunting now. They're like bicycle trails, through the woods.

And it's back behind where on our side, man, it's still nothing. people they own hundreds and hundreds of acres of land are not selling it. They don't want it to be developed. And I like it that way. Yeah, myself as well. It's we got a, we can't lose all the land. It doesn't. That's right.

That's actually something I was going to ask it is have you talk to your neighbors. And it sounds like you're starting to talk to them, which is good. Yeah, now the ones that were, Betsy, I didn't really get along with her brother, which is Tony. He's the one that. He died here just a few months ago. matter of fact. And his son, his son, he's got a camper down there. He just been getting him a camper in went in the last six, about six months ago. And he's been standing a little bit. And I asked him about this. He'd be hearing, see, yeah, I've been hearing some

weird stuff down there. I said, hey, I mean, that's a, I said, that's a big foot. Oh, man. Yeah, that's not, that doesn't sound like a good time, but you got to do what you got do. Feel free to, if you're ever talking to anyone, always feel free to pass on my information. I always love talking to people. But, I'm so glad that you reached out to me. This has been an incredible conversation. And I'm just blown away by your area. It's been a fun chat.

Yeah, thanks for having me. I enjoy your show, man. I said, it's what made me decide to come around and talk about it. Oh, that's awesome. I love that. Let you go so I don't keep you all night. But, dude, keep looking over your shoulder. It sounds like you've got it under control.

Yeah, I'm going to, like I said, as soon as I find out something, I'll hit you back and let you know. going on. Fantastic. Good talking to you, Roman. All right, Jeremiah. You have a great night, sir. All right, Bigfoot Society.

You've got the privilege of talking to Alfred tonight. He's a listener that reached out with some interesting things that he has encountered in his travels. Alfred, I hope you're doing well tonight, sir. I'm going to put it right over to you. Yes, good evening, Jeremiah. Thank you for having me on and inviting me to share my incident that I had. Again, my name is Alfred. Just a little bit of my background. I'm an IT person. I had been doing IT for 40 years now. And I currently reside in Connecticut. So my stories was back in 1987. My wife and I had visited some friends up in Seattle, Washington. And what happened was they're doing our stay. Some of us decided to go hiking. up at Mount Rainier.

And I was really excited about it because I love the outdoors. I like camping. I've been fishing and doing all that sorts of stuff since I was a teenager. Back in the late 1970s, my friends and I would go hiking up New York, the Catscale Regions most of the time. But anyway, this particular story, we had going out to do a hiking tour in Mount Rainier. and we ended up at this place. There was a parking lot. We parked and as I mentioned in my story,

there wasn't too many cars around. There must have been maybe five other cars in the area. And we started walking through one of the trails that one of our friends was familiar with. There were six of us, my wife, myself, and two other couples. And about a little way into the hike, we came up on a rest area and there was some bathrooms. So everybody decided to go to the bathrooms, and I decided to keep walking down the trail.

I must have walked a few, but I felt maybe just a few blocks. I mentioned there was about a ninth of a mile. And the reason I mentioned was because I'm an avid runner, and I can judge distance pretty well, I think. But anyway, as I was walking down this trail, I heard some noises in the woods, like trampling and just, I heard some leaves rattling. And I decided to go and investigate. And at first, I thought it might be maybe some other hikers. I didn't think it was animals or anything like that at the moment. So anyway, I decided to go into the woods.

And I began to smell. I mentioned my story that I smelled this stench that was really bad. It was like a body odor. And it got stronger as I was getting into the woods. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily? Yeah.

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and I know what a skunk smells like this. It did not smell like a skunk. I mentioned that I used to live in New York City, and it reminded me of a homeless person, basically. But anyway, I think that about 50 feet into the, I went off the trial about 50 feet into it, I saw a grouping of trees. There must have been maybe about six trees.

They were pretty large pine trees. And they were all grouped together. And then I saw something that was moving and I couldn't figure out what it was. At first, I thought maybe there was some huge squirrels or maybe some type of an animal because it was two of them. And they were pretty far apart. One was on top and one was at the bottom. and I kept getting closer because I was trying to figure out what type of animal it was. And as I got closer, I saw this huge thing just, I guess it went to its right, so it would have been my left.

It peered. And I saw this huge thing sticking out. And I didn't know what it was. At first I thought it was a bear, but I said, no, it can be a bear. It was too big to be a bear. Okay. So then my mind was running 100 miles an hour because I'm trying to figure out what the hell is this. And I knew it wasn't a person because it was huge. Again, I know distance. When I was in high school, I used to high jump. I'm 5'10 and I was able to high jump six feet. So this thing must have been eight feet or taller.

Okay. And again, when it leaned over, then I realized that the, Two things that I saw moving was its right arm was holding onto the tree and the bottom part was part of its leg, almost like the knee part. And it looked at me and we locked eyes and I think that that moment lasted, I would say maybe 30 seconds, which is not that long, but it felt like an eternity because I saw its face. It had almost human facial features and it had red eyes, but the eyes were not. But bright like you see on some videos, people at night don't show these eyes. They almost look like flashlights.

No, this thing had almost like bloodshot eyes. Like you would see when I was a drunk person. And it looked at me and I looked at it and I was panicking because realizing that this thing was huge. I said, this thing is not a person. It's not somebody in a costume because I would have been able to tell that's a custom or that's somebody in something. But again, it was so huge. That way it knew it wasn't a person. And then a few minutes later, I heard my party catching up to me.

It was my wife and the other two couples. And then this thing looked towards the direction where they were coming behind me. And then it just slid away and it walked up there. It was like that part of the woods went up instead of going up the hill. So it just walked away. And then I moved to my left to try to get a better glimpse. and I was able to see between the trees and it just kept walking up

and then at one moment it stopped it looked through its right and then it just kept walking and it disappeared and then that's when the rest of my party got up to us and I don't know what to do I don't know how to explain to them that I had seen something that I couldn't explain because again I don't want to be ridicule

I don't want to be made fun of and back then this was back in 1987 we didn't know anything about Bigfoot back then. I didn't know. I had never heard about Bigfoot. Even when I used to go camping with my friends, we never heard anything about Bigfoot. We didn't know what it was. Again, later on, later in time, yeah, I started hearing stories about Bigfoot and stuff, but I never thought that's what I saw. Because to be honest with you, I wanted to get it out of my mind because the only thing that it reminded me of was a creature that when I was a kid, my family used to

mention a creature from my childhood that sort of people saw back in the motherland. I was born in Central America. And my father would tell us stories that there was this creature in the woods. I would give you the name. It was called La Siwa Nava. And basically, this thing was a hairy monster. And it was a female because supposedly it has breasts and it was hairy. It was huge.

It has the, from what I understand, the right leg is supposed to be a chicken leg. And the left leg is supposed to be a horse leg. And the story was that if you were in the woods and then this thing came out at you, you were not supposed to turn your back to it. Because if you turn your back to it, you will become insane. It will do something to you. I know it sounds ridiculous, but as a kid, this was the fear that they put in us. So any time that we did anything wrong, they would tell us,

or they're going to bring us to the woods and leave you there so this thing will get you. So that was the only thing that crossed my mind. But again, I wasn't an adult. I was in my early 20s. No, it can be. It's a myth. But that was the only thing that I can compare it to. So I figured my party and we kept walking, but the whole time I was so afraid.

I was worried the whole time and I was always looking around. I heard noises and I was always just cautious just in case this thing came out and try to attack us or something. And to be honest with you, if it did come out on the approaches, I would have just grabbed my wife by the arm and I would have ran out of there because I knew this thing was huge. And there's no way all of us would have been able to fight this thing. And then we eventually, we made it back to our car and we ended up going. back to our friends' house where we were staying, and that was the end of it. And I never mentioned it to anybody. I told my wife this story, I think maybe a year afterwards. And she thought that maybe it was just a bear that I saw, but I know what I saw, and I know that I was not a bear.

And to this day, I have seen a lot of videos, and I have seen movies. And yeah, as I got older, I realized, you know what? I think maybe it could have been a big for what I saw. That's a fascinating. A fascinating story, Alfred. Thank you for sharing. I know you just said that you really haven't shared this with anyone, and I appreciate you sharing it on the show. Going back to that time when you were able to look at it for a bit, do you remember anything about the color of the hair of what you saw?

Yeah, this thing was like a reddish brown, because again, when I saw the arm and I guess the knee moving, and I didn't know what it was at first. I thought it was maybe like a red squirrel, but I'm like, it was too big to be a squirrel. Because again, I couldn't make out what it was because it looked like the hand was hugging part of the tree and it was shaky, like trembling.

And then the knee was just staying put. It would just move from side to side. But again, because I hadn't seen the whole thing, I couldn't make out what it was. But it was like a reddish brown, yeah. Okay, gotcha. So after you were able to see it, exactly what you were looking at, you realized it was just one creature then?

It was, yeah. Again, when it peered to the right, and I looked at it, like, saw the face. I saw the head, the shoulders. And actually it was just part of it. It was just the right shoulder because it didn't step out. It just leaned to the right. But again, it was so huge that I had to look up to see this thing. And I was just amazed.

I was, I didn't know what to do. Again, because my mind was like fighting to try to put, I guess, a reason. What is? Because I couldn't figure it out. It's not, I know it's not a bear. And if it was a person, there's no way it could be that big. Oh, absolutely. Do you remember anything about the length of the hair at all or anything about the hair?

It was hairy. It wasn't, how do you say, it wasn't, the hair wasn't cropped or short. It was actually really shaggy. It's funny, it almost reminds me of Chewbacca from Star Wars, basically. That's where it almost looked like except reddish brown. The face, I remember the face was almost human, and I remember the eyes were also really far apart. That was another thing that I remember that the eyes were not like a regular person.

It would be like maybe one eye distance in between this thing. It was like, I was saying maybe there was like four eyes in between the first eye and the other eye. And then it was like a grayish color, the face. And I know it had lips. It had a mouth, but it wasn't moving. The mouth wasn't moving. The nose was, the nose, it had a nose. And I remember the nose was a bit, I guess because it was breathing.

It was flaring a bit. You can see the nostrils moving. And it was not like, the nose was proportion. It wasn't like, I guess, like a, it wasn't like a gorilla that it's really huge extending. It was almost like a proportion of human nose, but to its size for that face. Was there a hood at all, like a hooded nose or was it more of a flat nose? I don't understand. What do you mean hooded?

It wasn't flat. It was almost like a, I guess, almost like a human nose, but just huge and proportionate to its face. Okay. Okay. gotcha. You said you saw the mouth. Was it a larger mouth or smaller mouth? Or do you remember anything about the mouth portion of the face? The mouth was basically just, it didn't have the mouth. I don't remember seeing the lips. Like I guess here in the lips, it was almost more like a flat. I guess you would say like a flat mouth. There was no shape to the lips. It was just like a line.

but it was gray because you could actually make out that it was a mouth and then it had it because it was hairy it looked like it had hair where a mustache would be.

At any time did you see the mouth open so you could see the teeth of the creature? No, that was the other thing it did not move. It didn't, but I did hear

before I saw it, it did make a noise which at first I thought it was a bear it sort of made like some sort of I guess like a grunt noise.

It sounded like it took a breath. It wasn't something like, and then something, something to that effect, like that. But the grunt was sort of, it was really, how do you say, not loud, but

reverberated, like I can feel it, how you can feel it in your bones almost. It was that loud, but it was like really low and muffled, but I felt the grunt. I felt it before, I felt it as I heard. It just kind of sound, it sounds crazy,

but it was that low and muffled that it was that I felt it. I don't think that's crazy at all. When you felt that reverberate, what did it evoke any emotions in you? Did it make you feel a certain way? It's funny. Like I had mentioned when I responded, I'm a big martial artist. I've been studying martial arts and I've been maybe, wow, 40 years now.

I've been doing martial arts. And I know I can defend myself. in previous years I have been I had situations where I have been confronted by multiple people

and I've been able to defend myself but when I saw this thing I was afraid because I knew there's no way I could defend myself against this thing no way

and my fear was just for my life safety and my safety to be honest with you I was hoping that if this thing came out They would go after one of my friends. That was my thing.

My thing was I'm going to run out with my wife and let them get eaten or get whatever because I wasn't going to take that chance. It sounds like you were in self-preservation mode for sure. The whole time walking to that, the hike lasted about two hours, I believe. The whole time, I don't think I enjoyed the hike because I was apprehensive. Every little noise, I was always looking around making sure that this thing was following or it wasn't running after us. Do you remember anything about the area of the face above the eyes, like the forehead area?

The forehead was, the forehead was huge actually because the head was almost pointing. It wasn't like, I guess like a regular human head. I remember it was pointing, not like a football, but that shape. It went, it went up and pointed to the top, but not really, let's say a cone. It's just almost like an oblong shape. And I don't remember seeing ears because I guess maybe because it was so hairy, I couldn't see any ears. I don't remember seeing ears because, again, I was trying to, I was trying to make sense of trying to match it with something that could be explained. Like, let's say maybe a bear.

But now. So during the time when you were able to look at it and you had eye contact, did it have an eye contact? Did it have an emotion in its face at all or during that time when you had eye contact, were you feeling any emotions at all? I was afraid. I felt fear, but this thing wasn't afraid or it didn't show any fear. Again, it only lasted 30 seconds or last few days. And as it was looking at me, I remember it blinked a few times,

but it was just staring at me like, it was not afraid or concerned. It didn't make any effort to, at least not during that moment, to run off or anything. No, it was just, this thing was sure of itself. Because again, when my friend started coming up behind me, it looked in towards their direction. And then it just slid away. It just walked away. And then I just saw the arm disappear.

And then the knee went away. and then it just started, I heard the noise, and then I went in a bit to my left to try to get a better glance, and then I was able to see between the trees, and it just walked the way going up the hill. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls. So this is the little pink pill everyone's been talking about.

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Okay. So the hair was covering any form of digits. But when it walked away, yeah, I did see what looked like a hand. And it was, I could see the back of it because it was walking away from me. And the right arm was moving. I couldn't see the left arm because it was covered by the other trees. And I saw basically saw its right side from the back as it walked away. Did you notice anything interesting about the arms?

The arm that I saw was pretty long. The arm, yeah, that was another thing. The arm was pretty long. I would say maybe, yeah, the arm was a bit longer. It looked longer than a regular human arm. How far down the body would you say the arm? I would say it went up to, probably up to its knee. Okay.

You were able to see it walk away, sounds. Were you able to see the feet? Did you notice anything about the feet of the creature? No, I couldn't see anything by the feet because I guess of the growth in the area. So as I was walking away, there was, I guess, like shrubbery and stuff. So I couldn't see past, I guess, its knee. and below. That part, I guess, the back of the leg, it was below the leg, I couldn't see, because of the shrubbery as it walked away and it was walking up, I only saw, I would say,

half of it. It's the right half with the arm down as it was walking up the hill. And then again, I remember it stopped for a second and it looked to the right. And then it just looked back straight and just kept walking, disappeared. Anything weird about the gate of the creature or how it was actually moving the way its legs moved, things like that? I can't remember anything like that. But I do remember that when I first heard it and also when it walked away, when it took its steps, you can hear as it crushed the growth underneath that it was. It was heavy because you can actually hear the, you can walk in the woods and trouble and you'll make some noise. But this thing really made noise as it broke the way.

If you had to estimate how much it weighed, what would you say? Wow. Weight? Wow. Yeah. It had to have been at least eight feet tall because again, I can, the way when I was looking at it and I saw the tree, it was at least eight. I couldn't see its whole, I didn't see the whole body. Okay, because when you peaked at me, it leaned to the right,

and I saw part of the shoulder, I saw the face. So I only saw the right arm still holding to the tree. I saw the shoulder. And then when it went back and it started to move away, and I tried to follow it a bit to see when it was walking away, I only saw the right half from its back. It was tall away, easily, 500 pounds or more, I would say, easily.

Was there anything that you saw that would make you think that it was a male or a female? It's funny. I just assumed it was a male. Sure. I didn't, because when it was leaning over, I didn't see anything that would indicate. I didn't see breasts. That's what you mean. I didn't see breasts.

And then when I was walking away, it was huge. It didn't look like a female to me, basically. I don't know, maybe I could be wrong. Maybe you could mean, but I couldn't see any features that would tell me or lead me to believe that it was a female. Were you able to see anything under the hair muscle-wise? No, not necessarily muscle. Like, I guess if you would see a bodybuilder, no. But the arms were huge.

That right arm was, the width was really. really huge. I couldn't tell you how it was huge compared to looking at the arm, that right arm when it was leaning. Yeah, I could see from the shoulder going down to the arm and the elbow. And then as it came around the tree, it was huge meaning thick. But I don't recall. I can't remember seeing like muscles or muscle movement now. Think back to what you were able to see of the face, if you would. And is this a face that you would see when you're visiting the zoo or that you would see when you're walking down the street in the city? No, not a, you wouldn't see that in a person now.

If anything, I would say, yeah, a gorilla maybe. I've seen gorillas up close. That's the only closest. but a gorilla, the features, a gorilla looks like the features, right? They're not hairy. The hair is really cropped and is close to the skin. And you can see the features, like the nose is flat, pushed in. No, this thing was not, this thing was not an ape.

If that's what you, if you wanted to compare it to, it was definitely not. I know what a male were a gorilla, a orangutan, or even a chimpanzee looks. No, this thing did not resemble any of that. Interesting. Okay, so not an ape, but. No, that was, because that was one later after the incident, when we were still there, I was, for days, I was trying to process it, trying to, was it a gorilla? There's no gorilla's up, but it's no way, no way, no way.

So my wife thinks that it was either a bear or maybe somebody in a suit, But there's no way it was somebody in the suit. Not that big. No way. So remind me what time of year it was in 19. This was in August. Yeah, August because we had gotten married in August of 85, my wife and I. And basically, that was almost our, we were young at the time.

And so we didn't have a honeymoon. And that was almost like a honeymoon trip. So it was in August of 87. And I remember that my friends had made a car. that basically in Seattle you can actually go swimming and you can also go skiing at the same time because you can actually go up to the mountain. And I remember that when we went to the mountain, we had to wear almost like a windbreaker type of thing because it was colder up at the mountain than it was where we were staying.

It was a colder day, but there wasn't snow in the area that we were hiking, but you can can actually see higher up. You can see the mountain peak covered in snow, but not where we were hiking. What time a day again was it that you saw that? This was like in the middle of the day. Okay. I think we got there like before lunchtime. Gotcha.

And I remember that it was, the lighting was pretty, it was decent lighting because the one of there's epi, it was like it'll rain one moment and then it would be sunny. And our men was a pretty nice, clear day. It didn't rain on us or anything like that. It was pretty good. So there wasn't like, let's say, fog or anything that or even a mist that might affect the vision of this thing. Was there anything that the creature did during the short time you saw it that really confused you even after all these years? Just the fact, the way that it was looking at me, the way it looked at me, it would be almost like a person.

and would look at you, right? Like somebody. I don't know. It's just, it felt like this thing is almost like a human being, but huge. It looked at me and it knew that I was probably, I wasn't put it this way. I wasn't a local animal.

It knew that I was a person, basically. And I felt that this thing's looking at me and it knows what I am. It wasn't like, let's say, a deer looking at you or any other animal. This thing you can sense. that this thing was almost human, basically. Would you ever have nightmares about what you saw over the years?

I did. I did have, I wouldn't say nightmares, because not nightmares, but oh, you're constantly thinking about it, just trying to make sense out of it, basically trying to make sense that it was not a bear, it was not a deer, it was not, a deer, it was not, no way it could have been an ape, because there's no apes up. there. And I would think maybe perhaps an ape got loose in the zoo and it escaped. And no, there was no, never any incidents. I never read because later in life I would do research to see it. There was any incidents regarding, oh, maybe that they reported anything similar to that. And again, yeah, I did. And I saw other, obviously, I started seeing other people talking about sightings, but not, let's say, a

mountain lion or something that does not belong up in that mountain. Have you ever seen, let's say, a picture or a drawing or anything that was similar to what you saw? The only thing that I, it's funny, the only thing that I think came close to it, again, was Chewbacca from Star Wars. That's the closest thing that I can relate to, except brownish red. Would you ever want to see one again? Yes, I would. I definitely would. Maybe not that I'd close, but yeah, I would definitely. I would love to see one. Why would you want to see one again? I don't know. I just, I think that I would need to see it. I don't know. I can explain why I just need to see it again. I just need to see it again, put it that way.

I guess maybe to make sure that maybe I wasn't imagining, I wasn't seeing things. But then again, if I do see it, one again, I would know how to explain it or what it is. I need to know. You know how people claim to see UFOs or even ETs, right? Would you want to see? I would love to see one, sure. Yeah, I definitely would love to see it. And it's funny, my friends and I used to go camping up state, New York, again, by the Catskills area. This lake, it's a national park called North-South Lake. I believe it's called Sogadis up in except 20, if I'm not mistaken, on the throughway. And we used to camp there all the time.

And we were hear noises at night. We used to like to go camping either at the beginning of the season or at the end, but there wasn't too many people. And we were here stuff out there. And again, back then, we didn't know what a Bigfoot was. We never heard of it. But we were hear noises. And we always, we joke about saying,

somebody left their dog in the woods and they never came back for it because we will hear this thing that it sounded almost like a dog market but it was like almost every time we went up there we will hear this thing but we never saw anything up there we did see bear black bear and other animals but we never saw anything like this up there and i'm sure they've had sightings up there but we never came across and again ever since i I was a teenager. We used to go camping as a group, four of us, every year religiously. Up until when I was an adult, I would say maybe I haven't gone camping in five years. But prior to that, we would go every year religiously camping to that same campground. Yeah, no, I know that up in that area, there have been sightings. I've talked to a few people. It's a very interesting area.

Going back to your mountain, Renier sightings. Yeah. Was there anything else that you had forgotten to mention about the encounter? No, nothing. The smell? It's funny because after it was going, you can still smell it. You can still smell it. Not as strong as when it was standing that close.

But after it left and my friends caught up, I remember some of them saying, oh, they were talking about, Oh, they were joking around that somebody didn't take a bath or somebody let one go. And I just kept quiet because I didn't want anybody to know what happened. I just, at least not to my friends. I told my wife later when we came back actually from our trip, I mentioned it to her. But I never told my friends that were with us that day because I just, you know, I don't know how to explain. I wouldn't know how to explain it. What kind of sounds were you hearing in the woods that day?

That day, I heard squirrel sounds. We hear the squirrels, chipmunks. That's probably just about it. And obviously birds, but nothing like this. And again, when I heard the grunt, I immediately assumed it was a bear. That's what I thought. I think it's got to be a bear. And I've heard bear because, again, when I was camping up state New York,

black bear would come to the campground and you have to be careful not to engage them or bother. We would basically walk away from the campsite and we knew enough to keep the deer whatever food we had tied up high with a rope in the tree to keep it away from the bear because they did come at night to the campground and if you didn't bother them, they didn't bother you

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I didn't hear anything out of place except for that grunt. Okay. Cool. That was the only, and again, as we kept walking, I was always listening. I was waiting to hear this thing because I was still afraid that this thing is going to come out and try to attack as I was hearing other noises. I was paying close attention that if I heard that grunt, that thing's got to be really close by. But the rest of the hike, I didn't hear that particular grunt, no. If the grunt was conveying an emotion, what would it be?

Did you get anything from the sound? And I know that's a weird question, but. Yeah, I think that maybe it made the noise to let me know not to get close. that's the only thing I can think of because again, it sounded like a muffled grunt, but it sounded like it took a breath first. It went something like that, something like that. Like it was relaxing. And it was only just that one grunt.

It didn't grunt anymore. That was the only time it grunted. And then as we made contact and it walked away, it didn't make any. Has there been anything about the encounter that you do not want to share or that you've been very hesitant to share? No, not at all. That was the whole story. Obviously, to this day, I haven't mentioned the two of our friends up there in Seattle, Washington. Really?

We'll keep in touch with them. Yeah, I never mentioned it because I don't know. It's just one of those. And I'm sure that they are aware. And who knows, maybe if we ever go up there. Because we, I have gone up there to listen to that ever since that time in 87. I think we went back maybe five other times, different years, from 87 up until maybe. I think the last time we went up there was when my son was, my son was 5, 93, 4, 5, 6,

7, 98 was the last time that we went up there. So the people you're with out in the woods, they don't really know what happened? No, they don't know what happened now. Wow. So again, maybe one day if we go, I'm sure we'll go up there to visit friends again because stuff happening, who knows, weddings and things. And we will end up going up there. And I'll probably mention it to them.

I guess I'm in, I'm 63 this year. I'm in that point in my life, but you know what? I don't care about what other people think. I get it. It doesn't bother me. the day it would have 30, 40 years ago, right? Now, I'm like, you know what? If they make fun of me, more power to them.

It would not affect me at all. I would not feel, I guess, what I was afraid feeling back there, being ridiculed. And the great thing is all the stuff that you're sharing will help a lot of people that are listening and maybe even help them to work through what they experienced and then be able to share by contacting me what they've experienced you. So I really appreciate you reaching out, Alfred. Sure, sure. Yeah, it was my pleasure.

It was nice talking to you and sharing this. If you ever do get in touch with those, you know, those friends again. And there's any new information, please reach out. I would definitely let you know what their reaction is or what their take on it is. And because I'm curious, too, to find out maybe, who knows, maybe they had similar experiences. Exactly. And maybe they were shy or afraid to share it. Who knows?

Exactly. Interesting. I know it's later where you're at. I appreciate you spending your time with me tonight. And thank you for much. Sure, Jim. I was nice talking to you. And thank you for having me.

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